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"For 500 dollars you can buy a good gun"

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"For 500 dollars you can buy a good gun"It is not only the rifle that disappears from the warehouses of the Ukrainian armed formations. weapon, which accounts for thousands of trunks, but even armored vehicles. The SBU is investigating the case against the commanders of one of the units of the National Guard, who have written off and sold cars. And on the armored jeep sent to the Canadian diaspora, a deputy of the Verkhovna Rada is now driving.


The SBU said that the chiefs of one of the units of the Ukrainian National Guard removed the combat-ready military equipment from the combat zone in the Donbas, writing it off as battle losses.

"Yesterday's heroes of the type of the same Parasyuk are already beginning to seriously lurch, because many have been sins"

"Militiamen documented the illegal write-off of military property and equipment for combat losses, which in fact was taken out of the area of ​​the antiterrorist operation and hidden in the territory of the Odessa region in one of the military units," the special service said. A criminal case.

This statement was made against the background of the scandal around the extra-fractional deputy Vladimir Parasyuk, who appeared at the rally on the so-called blockade of the Crimea. Ukrainian users of social networks drew attention to the armored jeep chosen. The number gave him a car, transferred in November last year to the Ukrainian armed forces fighting in the Donbass Canadian diaspora. The car received a "battalion" "Dnepr-1". Her fate is now being investigated by Ukrainian volunteers, who raised a scandal.

"Inadequate citizens Nemer"


“Unfortunately, this is a massive phenomenon,” independent journalist and blogger Anatoly Shary, who emigrated from Ukraine because of the authorities' persecution, told VZGLYAD. - Today, for example, a “hero” was buried in Sumy, who brought a grenade home and blew himself up. He was buried in the alley of honorary citizens. With military equipment all the more serious, it was the opposing side, perhaps this. "

“People are sending armored vehicles to support ATO, and suddenly it turns out that they are driven by such“ field commanders ”who rent apartments in the center of Kiev for budget money and are in the Verkhovna Rada, he continued. - The fact that the Parasyuk mind is not very much and that he lit up on it is one thing. But here the reaction of the radicals is interesting. Yesterday's heroes of the type of the same Parasyuk are already beginning to stagger seriously, because many have been sins. Dissatisfied with those who were with them, but received less. Gutted at his time at home, offices. Where did all the loot from Pshonka’s house (Yanukovych’s Attorney General under Yanukovych-approx. LOOK) or Yanukovych go? It's all sold out. I personally was offered, for example, a Yanukovich suit. Brioni, 500 dollars in total. " He drew parallels with the French and Russian revolutions. “We have observed the 17 year, but there will come another 20, the red terror that ours will fall under, and there will be the 37 th. Only now it is getting faster, and we are already seeing the 37 offensive, when they are putting their own ones, who were fought on Kolchak fronts, ”noted Shary.

He recalled that, according to official data, the number of serious crimes in Ukraine has increased sevenfold, and directly connected it with the weapon that surged from the ATO zone: “It’s not a problem to buy weapons. If I were not afraid to get under the article, because they are just waiting for me to attach something to something, I would have bought a gun in Kiev as an experiment. For 500 dollars you can buy a good gun, grenades in general for ten dollars. Kalashnikov assault rifles are offered for about three hundred dollars. And the closer to the zone "ATO", the cheaper.

When they start saying that a weapon permit will help reduce crime, it makes me laugh. Weapons must be able to use, and we need a mentality that has been developed over the years. Plus, in many states of America there is a serious question that weapons fall into the hands of inadequate citizens. Inadequate citizens in Ukraine Nemer. So giving up a weapon is just awful, ”Shary concluded.

Mass phenomenon


Cases when the Ukrainian soldiers who appeared in the "ATO" zone, originally disposed of military property, were noted many times. The most famous was the sale by the National Guard under two combat helicopters Mi-24Р with weapons. Armed men who secretly take out small arms and grenades from the ATO zone are regularly detained at railway stations in Ukrainian cities.
Weapons removed from the Donbass regularly appear in the criminal chronicle. In early May, a shoot-out chase occurred in Kiev, which resulted in the death of three people. Two masked men, threatening with weapons, attacked a gas station. When the escaped criminals tried to detain, they shot a patrol from a machine gun. The criminals were former fighters of the "battalions" of "Azov", "Tornado" and "Aydar". Shortly thereafter, in the Kharkiv region a former member of the "ATO" threw a grenade into the car with people, which did not work.

According to the Lostarmour website, where the lost Ukrainian armored vehicles are being counted, during the armed conflict more than 800 armored vehicles of the Ukrainian formations were destroyed and more than 400 captured. The data appearing in the reports of the Kiev military commanders are not disclosed, so it’s not possible to determine how many cars could disappear while being written off on securities.

With small arms is still more difficult. Petro Poroshenko himself admitted that thousands of trunks were removed from the "ATO" zone. According to him, 4,5 thousand weapons were returned to the Ukrainian military, however, given the quality of the Ukrainian law enforcement system, it is clear that this is only part of what went for a walk on the territory of the former USSR.

According to the data voiced by the head of the Kiev police Alexander Tereshchuk, the influx of illegal weapons in Kiev has recently increased tenfold. “Today there are a lot of weapons in Kiev. Its illegal turnover in the capital has increased lately, not even in 20 and not in 30, or maybe a hundred times. If, say, talk about robbery, then almost every case - with the use or threat of firearms. These include pistols, machine guns, grenades, and even grenade launchers, ”he said. “Recently, it has become“ fashionable ”to send weapons and ammunition by commercial postal organizations, therefore we are working in this direction,” he added.

“Everything repeats,” the former State Duma deputy of Russia, Lieutenant General of Police Alexander Gurov commented to the newspaper VIEW. - In Russia there was once a civil war. Until 1927, they fought gang violence. During World War II a lot of weapons dragged. There was the shooting of the White House, the weapons were also stolen decently. It's in human nature: what is bad lies, let me take it just in case. And here at all Klondike! People can take a weapon not only out of curiosity, but also for the purpose of their own protection, because the situation in Ukraine is such that there is no one to look for protection, and everyone understands this. The fact that the Ukrainian authorities are taking away weapons and arresting is welcome. ”

“The consequences will be very difficult, and not only for Ukraine,” he continued. - There will be an increase in banditry, an increase in resistance to the authorities, and moreover armed. I suppose that there will be a terrorist aggression against Russian cities, citizens, etc. Because they just don’t take weapons. ”
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  1. manguest
    manguest 25 September 2015 14: 26
    +3
    This means that now in b / Ukraine the pistol is no longer an affordable luxury for everyone, as soon as life is.
    1. vodolaz
      vodolaz 25 September 2015 14: 37
      +3
      Yes, there they sell the whole country.
      1. marlin1203
        marlin1203 25 September 2015 15: 33
        +5
        Come on, the pistols are on sale, there will soon be thousands of "shell-shocked soldiers" full of hatred and fear, without a livelihood and any desire to work. These "albatrosses of the revolution" will arrange such that the remaining "peaceful" will howl and rush to us.
    2. max702
      max702 25 September 2015 16: 30
      +4
      When the ruins were about to build a wall, I was two-handed FOR! Yes, yes, now there is a mess, and where in search of profit do all these horses go? Right to us! And so they would build a huge amount of money to us would save!
    3. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 25 September 2015 18: 45
      +2
      Quote: manguest
      in b / ukraine the pistol is no longer affordable for everyone

      For $ 500 you can buy a good gun What is this "good pistol"? Glocks obviously don't sell there, and 500 bucks for PM is a bit too much. request
      1. Basarev
        Basarev 25 September 2015 20: 54
        +1
        In general, they say that Walter-P99 was in service with the special forces of the SBU ... Perhaps, a certain amount surfaced in the ATO - and from there for sale. For him, $ 500 can be rolled off.
        1. proletarian
          proletarian 25 September 2015 21: 19
          +1
          500 "green", it was once, now it is much cheaper and "more prosaic" just need to look, but for "Lokh" and PM for 500 is cheap.
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      3. Insurgent LC
        Insurgent LC 25 September 2015 21: 30
        0
        (good) it is not shot in the packaging pm or tt which is impossible to track since its bulletproof library is not
      4. Horn
        Horn 28 September 2015 08: 08
        0
        the Ukrainians were making some kind of tapestry based on "Makarov". I really don't know how it happened.
  2. Sasha 19871987
    Sasha 19871987 25 September 2015 14: 27
    +5
    in development, they sent their country many many years ago ... such a shevkovy democratism in Ukrainian ... and Makhno’s batik is enough for them there ...
    1. proletarian
      proletarian 25 September 2015 21: 21
      +1
      Dear, what many years, but for whole centuries, they have gone deep into the past up to the "Great Ruin" itself.
  3. EvgNik
    EvgNik 25 September 2015 14: 27
    +6
    "" The consequences will be very serious, and not only for Ukraine ""
    Perhaps it will be so. This weapon will flow to Russia. And, of course, not in the hands of civilians, but in groups.
  4. delorian
    delorian 25 September 2015 14: 32
    +1
    The Russians are lucky that we have a relative order in our country! otherwise imagine a sea of ​​cheap weapons (from Ukraine) in Russia in the 90s!
    1. vladnn2015
      vladnn2015 25 September 2015 14: 50
      +8
      In the nineties there was free circulation of gas weapons. The bandits were not armed with them)). And now the gas pistol has been equated to a firearm. And the bandits go with military weapons.
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  6. shosha
    shosha 25 September 2015 15: 09
    0
    ... now the deputy of the Verkhovna Rada is riding a bulletproof jeep sent to the troops by the Canadian diaspora ...
    Krajina - a country of unlimited possibilities))) [
  7. shosha
    shosha 25 September 2015 15: 09
    +1
    ... now the deputy of the Verkhovna Rada is riding a bulletproof jeep sent to the troops by the Canadian diaspora ...
    Krajina - a country of unlimited possibilities))) [
    1. cayman gene
      cayman gene 25 September 2015 21: 37
      +5
      Quote: shosha
      Krajina - a country of unlimited possibilities))) [

      absolutely right! with a good trellis for $ 500 it is very easy to find a shatok of bacon with bread, shey zybulina (onion). wink
  8. nivander
    nivander 25 September 2015 15: 12
    +1
    any assault rifle ever shoots. It's only a matter of time
  9. Lyton
    Lyton 25 September 2015 15: 47
    0
    Yes, let them trade, they can shoot each other faster.
    1. Uncle lee
      Uncle lee 25 September 2015 16: 50
      +8
      Quote: Lyton
      shoot each other

      Those who do not have weapons are defenseless people who will fall under the bullets, and these are old people and children.
    2. proletarian
      proletarian 25 September 2015 21: 24
      +1
      Ay-yay-yay, it is not good to wish grief to others "can return", so it is better to wish people in Ukraine to "see the light" and return to normal life.
      I understand that this will not be soon and not easy, but hope dies last.
  10. ava09
    ava09 25 September 2015 16: 48
    0
    We must talk about the black arms market, but this is just a fact, the details of which do not give anything. But resembling saying: (C) Only now it’s faster, and we already see the onset of the 37th year when we plant our own, who were chopping our sabers on Kolchak’s fronts, ”said Shariy.
    I believe that Mr. Shariy does not understand the meaning of the political and social situation in the USSR of the 30s and is harmful to such statements, although I fully support what he says and does about the current New Russia.
  11. RRR
    RRR 25 September 2015 18: 37
    +1
    wink Weapons are a sign of trouble.
    So a person can’t cope with the circumstances and is looking for protection.
    But this protection is for him a test of power over the lives of others, which 95% fail sad
    That is why I am against any form of proliferation of weapons in the country, anyone.
    Better to beat each other's faces with their fists, break their ribs than kill.

    As for me, I already wrote, I have been working with weapons since 6 years. Therefore, I have a culture of handling weapons. For me, it is strange that militiamen carry weapons in the city with the barrel down or on the neck with a belt, armpit, etc. Especially with a fastened store.

    It is generally strange for me to find militiamen in uniform in the city in the markets, in stores with vodka departments, with bags full of beer, vodka and a snack. The militia gatherings in the middle of the day at eateries generally raise doubt that this is the army. This is not an army - this is a way of life for drunks, alas.
    1. Aleksey_K
      Aleksey_K 25 September 2015 19: 19
      +7
      Quote: RRR
      As for me, I already wrote, I have been working with weapons since 6 years. Therefore, I have a culture of handling weapons. For me, it is strange that militiamen carry weapons in the city with the barrel down or on the neck with a belt, armpit, etc. Especially with a fastened store.

      It is generally strange for me to find militiamen in uniform in the city in the markets, in stores with vodka departments, with bags full of beer, vodka and a snack. The militia gatherings in the middle of the day at eateries generally raise doubt that this is the army. This is not an army - this is a way of life for drunks, alas.

      About 6 years - this is you bending. At this age, you don’t even cock a gun or a gun. If you were taught by your father, then why shouldn't other people who do not have weapons join the culture of handling weapons? The Russians, it seems, have long been time, otherwise they are not trained and will be thrown into battle with Arabs or Chinese.
      And as for the militias, you yourself call them militias. This is not a regular state army, these are armed volunteers. This status of military personnel in Russia does not exist, which means that no one will pay them pensions, disabilities, or provide social benefits. Russia has turned away from these militias. Moreover, Russia betrayed them with its Minsk agreements. As a result, Mariupol was not taken, the regions themselves are only partially under the control of militias, the army of ukrov is intensively preparing for future hostilities. You look, because in that first referendum, even there was no talk (as directed from Moscow) about joining Russia. If the LPR and the DPR were Russia recognized and, as a result of the referendum, became part of Russia (at least temporarily), then there would be no war in the Donbass. Ukraine would eat this, as with the Crimea.
      What do you think people in the Donbass do not understand anything and it decomposes them. Hence the vodka and loitering at eateries. And who will forbid them? Putin, who betrayed them, or what?
      I am a former officer of the Soviet army and also before the service did not have a culture of handling weapons. However, being in the ranks of the Soviet army, I didn’t shoot anyone, although I walked around the city with weapons, not only during my duty. Once, together with the police, he participated in the detention of criminals and did not use weapons in vain.
      So do not trust ordinary people. Criminals need to be disarmed, not their victims.
    2. Insurgent LC
      Insurgent LC 25 September 2015 21: 37
      +3
      first of all, write nonsense tovarisch first in the store or in other places they will not sell alcohol to people if they raise a butch call the commandant’s office and arms are handed over after military or military service so no need to go ho 6 years kindergarten Voroshilov insole chtoli
  12. tissot72
    tissot72 25 September 2015 19: 17
    -1
    I personally was offered, for example, a costume of Yanukovych. Brioni, 500 dollars total
    Am I blunting something, a suit and a gun for $ 500 are the same thing?
  13. KRIG55
    KRIG55 25 September 2015 21: 12
    0
    The most unpleasant thing is that immediately our black market will be filled with cheap weapons.
  14. 4ekist
    4ekist 25 September 2015 21: 24
    0
    Is the Canadian Diaspora a Bandera ur.de that you didn’t catch and hang? It would be better if they sent diapers to their brothers.
  15. Prisoner
    Prisoner 25 September 2015 21: 29
    0
    So it’s good. Let the deputy go on the armored car than the natsgadovskoy reconnaissance group.
  16. AID.S
    AID.S 25 September 2015 21: 44
    0
    Can you tell me when the behavior of the militias described by you was observed?
    It seems that there were reports that this year, similar to the DPR military personnel was not observed.
  17. Wils
    Wils 25 September 2015 22: 21
    -4
    Quote: Vladimirets
    Quote: manguest
    in b / ukraine the pistol is no longer affordable for everyone

    For $ 500 you can buy a good gun What is this "good pistol"? Glocks obviously don't sell there, and 500 bucks for PM is a bit too much. request

    Yes, the article is just rubbish, and Shary rushed away from Ukraine back in the days of Yanukovych to avoid punishment for a criminal offense.
    1. Barakuda
      Barakuda 26 September 2015 02: 09
      0
      Do you even read what he writes to speak? fool
  18. Barakuda
    Barakuda 26 September 2015 02: 12
    0
    I don’t know how pistols, 100 bucks, but grenades with a shaft - 30 cu (I even asked you not to bring some) and you are a terrorist, and I'm a separatist, because I wrote it. wink
  19. B- 3ACADE
    B- 3ACADE 26 September 2015 02: 47
    0
    Hmm. Interesting - for the gun 500 tugs of green.
    I for my glac17 gave a new 535. there are two extra shops in a box.
    brand lock and all sorts of trinkets. And here is envy that such
    money. But AKM I would take more than just how to get them. Sanctions, zatsantsii. Any Russian barrel in Ukraine is right now.
    I saw a 19000-real PC at a ganshaw ...
    But just about the mess with the trunks is bad. They will play for decades
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    2. Barakuda
      Barakuda 26 September 2015 03: 41
      0
      What state do you live in? PC for 19 tanks? Which PKK? We don’t give more stuff. There are no "Pechenegs" and even more so.
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  21. Vovan 73
    Vovan 73 26 September 2015 15: 46
    0
    Hmm ... I would buy Stechkin and VSK ........
  22. Russian_German
    Russian_German 27 September 2015 19: 12
    0
    Quote: Алексей_К

    Moreover, Russia betrayed them with its Minsk agreements. As a result, Mariupol was not taken, the regions themselves are only partially under the control of the militias, the army of ukrov is intensively preparing for future hostilities. You look, because in that first referendum, even there was no talk (as directed from Moscow) about joining Russia. If the LPR and the DPR were Russia recognized and, according to the results of the referendum, became part of Russia (at least temporarily), then there would be no war in the Donbass. Ukraine would eat this, as with the Crimea.

    I agree. And most importantly, there would be the same sanctions as now, no more, no less. As I see it, Putin was saving Akhmetov’s business in Mariupol, at the request of Akhmetov himself and with an eye to the future. Nothing personally, only business, and people consumables, no more.