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The frigate of the 22350 project "Admiral of the Fleet of the Soviet Union Gorshkov" went to state trials in the White Sea

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Head frigate of project 22350 Admiral fleet Soviet Union Gorshkov ”to go through the next stage of testing, left Baltiysk and headed for the White Sea. State tests of the warship will be carried out at several sea ranges. Previously, the frigate passed all the necessary tests in the Baltic Fleet. From message press service Western Military District:


At the Baltic Fleet, the ship successfully passed all stages of factory trials, during which the ship’s running performance, the work of the main power plant, ship systems and devices, auxiliary mechanisms of communications, detection and navigation, and anchor device were checked.

In addition, high-speed, maneuverable and vibration tests of the ship were carried out. The ship successfully completed a number of artillery and missile firing at naval BF test ranges, and also completed anti-submarine missions in conjunction with naval aviation.
It is expected that by the end of this year the ship will enter the combat strength of the Russian Navy.


The frigate of the 22350 project "Admiral of the Fleet of the Soviet Union Gorshkov" went to state trials in the White Sea


The developers of the ship declare the implementation of the technology "stealth" on the ships of this project.

For your information:

The 22350 1 frigates of the Soviet Union Gorshki project were laid out on 2006. The 22350 frigates are typical ships with a solid superstructure of the half-semi-rigid design, made using composite construction materials based on polyvinyl chloride and carbon fibers (composite materials reduce the level of secondary fibers. fields of the ship through the absorption and dispersion of radio waves).
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  1. Maksus
    Maksus 22 September 2015 14: 52 New
    +29
    Seven feet under the keel! More ships, good and different. That's just 9 years for the frigate - a bit much, you have to do something with the timing.
    1. MIKHAN
      MIKHAN 22 September 2015 14: 57 New
      +2
      We look and be proud ...! It goes beautifully ... but what's inside ... keep quiet! [Media = http: //www.youtube.com/watch? Feature = player_d
      etailpage & v = UBm-FsTNIME]

    2. insafufa
      insafufa 22 September 2015 14: 59 New
      +7
      Quote: Maksus
      Seven feet under the keel! More ships, good and different. That's just 9 years for the frigate - a bit much, you have to do something with the timing.

      Quote: Hubun
      the soul rejoices as the fleet is renewed, since the time of the Union, however, this was not
      I will say one thing finally
    3. Alexey-74
      Alexey-74 22 September 2015 15: 57 New
      +6
      Well, as they say in a good way !!!
    4. Tusv
      Tusv 22 September 2015 16: 39 New
      +4
      Quote: Maksus
      Here are just 9 years for the frigate - too much, something needs to be done with the deadlines.

      The second Admiral of this series is already undergoing tests. The third is waiting for the engine
    5. SALLAK
      SALLAK 22 September 2015 22: 30 New
      +1
      Not the USSR ... so there’s nowhere to go, thanks for nine. If it were not for the tension in Ukraine and, as a result, the strengthening of the army could have been longer in time. It’s a pity that the new Admiral Gorshkov is less than his previous brother who bore this name ...
  2. Hubun
    Hubun 22 September 2015 14: 54 New
    +3
    the soul rejoices as the fleet is renewed, since the time of the Union, however, this was not
    1. figwam
      figwam 22 September 2015 14: 56 New
      +9
      Yes, and aviation in the Middle East is on the alert, impressive ...
  3. kil 31
    kil 31 22 September 2015 14: 59 New
    0
    Of course, I’m not a moroman, but I wondered. Why does he still go north. Submarine I understand the tests at the right depths. It seems he should be attributed to Balt. to the fleet.
    1. Stirbjorn
      Stirbjorn 22 September 2015 15: 04 New
      +18
      Shoot "Caliber", there are large polygons. He was always assigned to the Northern Fleet, like the rest of 22350, in the Baltic, except corvettes, in the near future, nothing is expected.
    2. avt
      avt 22 September 2015 15: 08 New
      +2
      Quote: Kil 31
      . Why is he still hiding north.

      Quote: Stirbjorn
      Shoot with caliber, there are large ranges. He was always assigned to the Northern Fleet, like the rest 22350, in the Baltic, in the near future, nothing is expected except corvettes.

      Yes. Probably there will remain to serve.
      1. mike_z
        mike_z 22 September 2015 16: 48 New
        0
        It also says - in the White Sea, i.e. not quite in the SF, but closer to Severodvinsk, i.e. to the production base. Polygons are also available there. The identified deficiencies will be "licked". Everything is fine. But for a long time!
      2. mike_z
        mike_z 22 September 2015 16: 48 New
        0
        It also says - in the White Sea, i.e. not quite in the SF, but closer to Severodvinsk, i.e. to the production base. Polygons are also available there. The identified deficiencies will be "licked". Everything is fine. But for a long time!
    3. kostya-petrov
      kostya-petrov 22 September 2015 15: 09 New
      0
      Quote: Kil 31
      It seems he should be attributed to Balt. to the fleet.

      no, a corvette brigade is being formed at the Baltic Fleet. And there will be frigates in the North and Pacific. And there will be patrol ships in the Black Sea Fleet!
      1. kil 31
        kil 31 22 September 2015 15: 34 New
        +1
        Quote: kostya-petrov
        Quote: Kil 31
        It seems he should be attributed to Balt. to the fleet.

        no, a corvette brigade is being formed at the Baltic Fleet. And there will be frigates in the North and Pacific. And there will be patrol ships in the Black Sea Fleet!

        Sorry, I didn’t know how they assigned to the fleet which fleet needed which ships. Of course, you can argue with the General Staff about this, but they decide it, not us. hi
    4. Gvozd
      Gvozd 22 September 2015 16: 06 New
      +1
      No, he’s just like the whole series will serve on the SF. So it will just pass state tests at the duty station, which is logical.
    5. Tusv
      Tusv 22 September 2015 16: 47 New
      +2
      Quote: Kil 31
      Of course, I’m not a moroman, but I wondered. Why does he still go north. Submarine I understand the tests at the right depths. It seems he should be attributed to Balt. to the fleet.

      You are confusing the admiral series. Project 11356 is inland Grigorovich and Essen. Admirals of project 22350 are already ocean
  4. kimyth1
    kimyth1 22 September 2015 14: 59 New
    +7
    GDP proposed to invest 60 lard in an asterisk !!! et also pleases !!!
    1. kote119
      kote119 22 September 2015 16: 36 New
      +5
      not to Zvezdochka (Severodvinsk), but to the Star (B. Kamen, Primorye)
      1. sir.jonn
        sir.jonn 22 September 2015 16: 59 New
        +3
        Quote: kote119
        not to Zvezdochka (Severodvinsk), but to the Star (B. Kamen, Primorye)

        We’ll be full of revival everywhere. The Red Forge in Arkhangelsk is being updated a bit.
  5. kostya-petrov
    kostya-petrov 22 September 2015 14: 59 New
    +4
    Seven feet under the keel.
    It’s great that the Red Banner Northern Fleet will be replenished with the latest shock combat unit.
  6. Roman 1977
    Roman 1977 22 September 2015 15: 06 New
    +10
    In the Caspian, everything in chocolate is the only naval compound capable of fully performing its tasks: 2 RKO 1166.1 Ave. Dagestan with Caliber-NK, Tatarstan (while under repair, however, they installed a new Gals radar on it that indicates a change in the composition of weapons, according to some data it will be armed with "Calibras", like "Dagestan", according to others they will install anti-submarine weapons to fight the Iranian submarine), 3 IRC Ave 21631 with Caliber-NK, 3 IAC Ave. 21630, RCA, etc. 12411T, "Serna", "Dugong", and the four "old man" project 1204 will not let you down.

    True, last year they brought out 3 РКА pr.206М, but the boats themselves are old, and the П-15М does not meet modern requirements. There is a partnership with Iran, and the Navy of Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan and Turkmenistan can not be taken into account. However, the number of IRAs pr 21631 on CFL plan to bring to the originally planned 6, after the end of the series for the Black Sea Fleet.
    Baltika, too, is not so bad: "Persistent" pr. 956-flagship, from time to time goes to sea, showing the flag.

    The truth is a little unclear what will happen to the "Restless", do not repair, and do not pass on needles ... TFR pr.11540 bear ocean service, "Fearless" in repair before the beginning of next year, but it is good, finally install on it strike weapons, at least X-35 "Uranus", as in the "Wise." All 4 of the newest corvette pr.20380 (the situation with the "Watchman" is incomprehensible, allegedly he is still under repair), nightmares of sprats and insignificant descendants of the Vikings. Plus the newest "Dugongs" and "Raptors". In 2013, the amphibious forces were reinforced by the repaired "Zubr" pr. 12322 "Eugene Kocheshkov". The situation with the underfloor also improved a little: the Vyborg B-227 was repaired, which allowed Magnitogorsk to go home with the SF. Next year they plan to transfer the repaired Dmitrov B-471 to the fleet. The main problem in the Baltic is the absolute obsolescence of the IPC of the 806M Ave., which do not have missile weapons (Strela-1331M MANPADS do not count). If they can still fight with the Polish (former Norwegian) Cobbens, they are absolutely helpless against the newest German Ave 2, and especially the Swedish Gotland, VNEU. Alexander Obukhov, the new BTsch Ave X. NUMX, which will finally strengthen the capabilities of the fleet to combat modern mines.
    1. Roman 1977
      Roman 1977 22 September 2015 15: 13 New
      +6
      The situation with the Black Sea Fleet has also changed for the better: This year the fleet will receive the first TFR of 11356 Ave. Admiral Grigorovich, which they plan to transfer to the fleet in the near future and it is quite likely that it will be at the World Cup this year, and in November-December the second TFR of the project "Admiral Essen", which completes the mooring trials and in October will be released at the ZHI.

      Finally, the old men of the Stormy Petrels repaired the Ladny and the Inquisitive, who are already serving in the Mediterranean. The renovated TFR "Sharp-witted" on Monday, 14 of September, 18 of September left Sevastopol on the BS to Sredinimekka, allegedly after some time, Moscow, Ladny and Pytlivy will join it.

      Plus, the Bulgarians repaired the Caesar Kunnikov BDK, which was actively involved in the Syrian express. Allegedly, the newest BDK "Ivan Gren" pr. 11771, which is planned to be transferred to the fleet this year, will go to the Black Sea Fleet. This year, the shock forces of the fleet will also increase, due to the 2 of new IRAs Ave. 21631 from the Caliber-NK Green Dam and Serpukhov, which are already undergoing sea trials. Plus, under the guise of history with the transfer of Egypt from the Baltic to the Black Sea Fleet, the RCA P-32 pr 12421 was transferred from the Mosquito PKR, at least it is now based in Sevastopol. Postponed care for the "Star" for the repair and rearmament of "Moscow" and the fleet will not remain without a long arm and a flagship, since it was decided to dispose of "Kerch". But even here, different options are possible: from the inclusion of "Admiral Gorshkov" into the BSF, to the transfer from the Yaroslav the Wise Charitable Foundation. Underwater forces have sharply intensified - by the end of the year, the Black Sea Fleet plans to have 4 diesel-electric submarines Ave 636.3, the first of which B-261 Novorossiysk 21 September arrived at the base, also before the end of the year B-237 should be transferred Rostov-on-Don .

      Plus, by the end of the year, they plan to remove Alrosa from the B-871 repair. And in general, the situation will become tolerable.

      I hope that the captured Ukrainian ships, at least the most modern ones, will be included in the fleet: the BNC Ave 775 Konstantin Olshansky, the IPC Ave 11124M Ternopil and Lutsk and the Slavutych SRZK.
      1. Roman 1977
        Roman 1977 22 September 2015 15: 19 New
        +2
        In the North, not so good. "Admiral Kuznetsov" because of problems with an unreliable remote control, idle more in the port than goes to sea, so most recently it was taken out of the dock on the 82-m SRH. Yes, and his air group is still incomplete, since the newest MiG-29K has not yet arrived. The aircraft carrier requires major repairs, but due to lack of funding, repairs are constantly being postponed for an indefinite period. TARKR "Admiral Ushakov" under repair up to 2018 year. One remains, "Peter the Great", which also stood in the dock for repairs.

        The situation with other 1-rank ships is no better: the newest Admiral Chabanenko, 1155.1 av., Under repair until next year, Admiral Ushakov, 956 av., Are not allowed to continue on Svalbard, 3, in fact, have become "working horses" ". So in October, the BOD "Vice Admiral Kulakov" is preparing for a military exit to the Atlantic.

        The situation with the newest frigate, pr.22350 "Admiral Gorshkov", which will be handed over to the fleet in November, is not yet clear: it was planned for the SF, but it is also actively claimed by the BF (proximity to the manufacturer), and especially the Black Sea Fleet. However, he will most likely remain on the Federation Council, as a temporary replacement for the Chabanenko, with the repair of which in the fleet there is not a single modern “walking” strike ship to escort Peter and Kuzi. This year, the Federation Council should receive the corvette pr.20385 "Thundering", but because of the sanctions, most likely not. Not better in the case of underflooding, despite the withdrawal from repair last year of the SSB K-84 Ekaterinburg, the transfer to the fleet of the newest K-560 Severodvinsk 885 av. And the arrival from the Baltic at the end of 2013 of the year B-585 Saint Petersburg "pr. 677, which is still listed in trial operation. So from 18 APL in the ranks of all 7 (1 Ave 885, 2 Ave 949A, 1 Ave 945A, 1 Ave 971, 2 Ave 671 RTMK). True, that year they planned to return from repair B-336 "Pskov" ave. 945A and K-335 "Cheetah" ave 971. The situation with the diesel-electric submarines is not better, despite the exit from X-NNX of Kaluga’s B-2013 modernization in 800 and the exit of Vladikavkaz’s B-23 Vladikavkaz with Caliber RK expected by 459 in September.

        In addition to the "St. Petersburg" in the ranks of all 2 diesel-electric submarines: B-800 "Kaluga" and B-471 "Magnitogorsk". B-402 "Vologda" is likely to be disposed of, and B-808 "Yaroslavl" is being repaired on "Zvezdochka". True, B-177 "Lipetsk" returned from BF, but immediately got up for repair, and most of its crew was sent to Vietnam, to help take the diesel-electric submarines of 636.1 ave. Here, before the next year, the transfer to the fleet: "Kazan", etc. 885 improvements can not be expected.
        1. Roman 1977
          Roman 1977 22 September 2015 15: 27 New
          +6
          Pof-full fox. The core of the RKR fleet pr. 1164 "Varyag", 3 BOD Ave 1155 and destroyer Ave 956 "Fast", not moving further than Shanghai. The truth must come back from repair BOD pr. 1155 "Admiral Tributs" and BDK-101 "Oslyabya" Perhaps this year the Pacific Fleet will be replenished with repaired RKR 1164 Ave. “Marshal Ustinov.” Deadlines for the first corvette of the PSTN “Perfect” Ave 20380 are shifted to the right next year, and knowledgeable people say that at best, and most likely on 2017. The situation with TARKR pr. 1144.2 "Admiral Lazarev" is incomprehensible. The situation with the underfloat is even worse: from the 10 submarine in the 3 system (X. NUMX X-949 "Tver" and K-456 " Moscow time "and K-186" Tomsk "). From 150 DEPL-8. B-5" Komsomolsk-on-Amur "and B-187" Krasnokamensk "under repair. B-190" Saint Nicholas the Wonderworker "will most likely be written off. And all this against the backdrop of the growing by leaps and bounds of the Navy of China, Japan and South Korea.
          So this year the Navy should receive:
          Surface ships:
          -frigate project 22350 "Admiral of the Fleet of the Soviet Union Goshkov" on the "Gorshkov", most likely not.
          -CRC project 11356 "Admiral Grigorovich"
          -CRC pr. 11356 "Admiral Essen" (BSF) -November-December.
          -corve Ave. 20380 "Perfect" (PF) - is likely to surrender the fleet in the next year.
          -BDK pr. 11711 "Ivan Gren".
          -2 MRK pr. 21631 "Green Dol" and "Serpukhov" (CSF)
          -BTSCH pr. 12700 "" Alexander Obukhov ".
          -2 DKA pr 21820 "Dugong" "Lieutenant Rimsky-Korsakov" and "Michman" Lermontov "(BF) -already in the Navy
          -5 patrol boats of the project 03160 "Raptor" (CSF) -4 already transferred to the Navy: 3-BSF, 1-BF.
          -patrol boat pr.BK-16 (CSF)-passes the test
          Submarines:
          -B-262 "Stary Oskol" pr. 636.6 (CSF)
          -B-265 "Krasnodar" pr. 636.6 (BSF). Launched on April 25, the plan is to be transferred to the Navy in November.
          Total: 2 DEPL, 11 surface ships (6-7 for sure) and 8 boats.
          Auxiliary:
          -The rescue ship of pr. 21300С "Igor Belousov"
          - Oceanographic vessel of the 22010 "Yantar" project (SF) - commissioned to the 23 fleet in May
          - Middle reconnaissance ship of the 18280 "Yuri Ivanov" project (SF) - accepted by the Navy
          From the repair plan to withdraw:
          - RKR pr. 1164 "Marshal Ustinov"
          - BOD Ave. 1155 "Admiral Tributs" (PF)
          - RKO pr. 1166.1 Tatarstan (CFL)
          - BDK pr. 775 "Oslabya" (TOF)
          - training ship pr. 877 "Perekop" - repaired in Bulgaria until August 2015.
          - SSB K-44 Ryazan Ave. 667 BDR (TOF)
          - APL pr.945A "Condor" B-336 "Pskov" (SF)
          - NPS pr. 971 K-335 "Cheetah" (SF)
          - NPS pr. 971U K-419 "Kuzbass" (PF)
          - diesel-electric submarines pr. 877 "Alrosa" (BSF)
          - ДЭПЛ пр. 877 B-459 "Vladikavkaz" (repair and modernization)
          1. Stirbjorn
            Stirbjorn 22 September 2015 15: 45 New
            0
            Well, Gorshkov most likely yes, it was not in vain that he finally left the North. But the "Gren" is most likely not, because even in the sea did not go out yet.
            According to the support, still maritime weapons transport (MTV) "Academician Kovalev" should replenish the composition.
          2. Setrac
            Setrac 22 September 2015 19: 35 New
            0
            Here it is necessary to clarify that Japan, China and Korea stamp ships according to yesterday's technologies, Russia can also stamp outdated ships, but is it necessary?
        2. Stirbjorn
          Stirbjorn 22 September 2015 15: 39 New
          +3
          Quote: Novel 1977
          TARKR "Admiral Ushakov" under repair until 2018.
          "Admiral Nakhimov" hi
          1. Roman 1977
            Roman 1977 22 September 2015 15: 55 New
            +4
            Yes, I agree with you, of course, "Admiral Nakhimov", I apologize for the mistake.
            With ships of the first and second rank now in the Navy is a big shortage, so in the ranks:
            1 TAKR "Admiral of the Fleet of the Soviet Union Kuznetsov", with an incomplete air group (8 Su-33), with the missing "Granites", which have not yet received the MiG-29K.
            1 TARKR pr. 1144.2 "Peter the Great" stood up for dock repair, the second "Admiral Nakhimov" (the former Kalinin "is currently incapacitated) is under repair and modernization until 2018 of the year." Admiral Ushakov "(formerly" Kirov ") has already been written off and behind him they write off Admiral Lazarev on the Pacific Fleet (formerly Frunze). Total of 2 TARKR 1 is under repair and one is under repair and modernization.
            3 RKR pr. 1164: 1 SF ("Marshal Ustinov"), 1-ChF ("Moscow"), 1-TOF (Varyag), of which "Marshal Ustinov" until the end of this year to repair and upgrade. His place in the end of the year was supposed to take Moscow, but because of disruptions in the delivery time of the TFR of 11356 and the fire on the BOD pr. 1134B Kerch, which led to the decision to dispose of the ship, it was decided to postpone repairs until next year.
            7 BOD Pr 1155 (3 SF and 4 PF), of which the BOD Admiral Tributs (PF), according to the plan of 30 June was supposed to be out of repair, however, no reports about this have been received . Those. in the dry residue 6.
            1 BOD pr. 1155.1 "Admiral Chabanenko" (SF) is our only ship that can be called a destroyer under repair until the end of next year.
            3 destroyer pr. 956 (BF, SF. TOF) - due to the problems with DKU, which became in fact the ships of the near sea zone ". The Baltic" Persistent "- with tugs goes only to the landfills at Baltiysk. Severomorsky" Admiral Ushakov "do not release further Svalbard, Pacific "Fast" on Shanghai.
            2 TFR pr. 11540 (BF), from which the "Fearless" is being repaired and modernized until the middle of next year, followed by the "Yaroslav the Wise", i.e. while in the ranks one
            1 BOD Ave. 01090 "Sharp-witted", devoted to the fleet already in 1969, did not receive the U-KP X-35 anti-ship missile, to its launchers removed from the decommissioned РКА "Р-44", to which the cable of the route was not even connected.
            TFR pr. 1135 "Ladny" and TFR pr. 1135М "Pytlivy" are outdated ships, with weak air defense (2 SAM "OCA-MA"), they will scare the adversary, but in real combat, at best, "missile trappers"
            Total we have-19 ships, of which only 13 are in the ranks, of which 3 are completely obsolete ships ...
        3. VALERIK_097
          VALERIK_097 22 September 2015 17: 03 New
          +1
          Quote: True, that year they planned to return from repair the B-336 "Pskov" project 945A and K-335 "Cheetah" project 971
          We planned, we will return.))))
      2. KGB WATCH YOU
        KGB WATCH YOU 22 September 2015 17: 17 New
        +1
        BOD “Kerch” will not be disposed of, but a museum will be made of it! fellow
        http://eagle-rost.livejournal.com/543748.html
        1. Alexey RA
          Alexey RA 22 September 2015 17: 47 New
          +3
          Quote: KGB WATCH YOU
          BOD “Kerch” will not be disposed of, but a museum will be made of it!

          So at the Black Sea Fleet there is already one museum:

          Can bring Kutuzov back into operation? Kaptsov would have liked ... laughing
          1. KGB WATCH YOU
            KGB WATCH YOU 22 September 2015 18: 02 New
            +1
            This one is in Novorossiysk, and that one will be in Sevastopol good

            Can bring Kutuzov back into operation? Kaptsov would have liked ... laughing

            And how... lol
          2. SIvan
            SIvan 23 September 2015 20: 59 New
            0
            Quote: Alexey RA
            So the Black Sea Fleet already has one museum. Can bring Kutuzov back into operation? Kaptsov would have liked ...

            I was just at the beginning of the month in Novorossiysk. When I walked along the embankment and looked at Kutuzov, I immediately remembered Oleg laughing
  7. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 22 September 2015 15: 08 New
    +1
    “The design of the ship has a“ high percentage of novelty ”- at least 30% of new technologies and developments. In particular, part of the hull and superstructure elements will be made using stealth technology. The ship is so secret that even its appearance is known only to designers and shipbuilders . "
    Well, God forbid! And seven feet under the keel .....
    1. Stirbjorn
      Stirbjorn 22 September 2015 16: 50 New
      +1
      Appearance has long been known to everyone, has already departed so much in the Baltic, Putin held a meeting on the day of the Navy)
  8. AdekvatNICK
    AdekvatNICK 22 September 2015 15: 11 New
    0
    Vibration tests of the ship, I wonder how they are conducted
  9. Evpatiy.
    Evpatiy. 22 September 2015 15: 21 New
    +3
    In comparison with the prospect of the development of the Ukrainian fleet, everything turns pale! lol
  10. tatarin_ru
    tatarin_ru 22 September 2015 15: 35 New
    +1
    I am glad that the fleet is not only being restored and repaired, but also is being modernized (communications, weapons, etc.), not to mention the introduction of new frigates, etc.
    The military-industrial complex works no matter what they say.
  11. Protonbrest
    Protonbrest 22 September 2015 16: 11 New
    0
    Ah yes handsome. Rolling mills modernized? I hope not crumpled near? Enamel as it is the most! There were dents and not. Fuel must be saved to increase speed.
  12. Platonich
    Platonich 22 September 2015 16: 17 New
    -2
    And in our entire economy only the military-industrial complex works. The rest is bent and is now bent with terrible force.
    1. kostya-petrov
      kostya-petrov 22 September 2015 16: 19 New
      +2
      Quote: Platonitch
      The rest is bent and is now bent with terrible force.

      in your words there is a concrete lie!
      Give us examples of "folding sectors"?
  13. ASK505
    ASK505 22 September 2015 17: 00 New
    +1
    So much detailed information on the fleet that you are amazed. Under the Soviet regime, they would blame for this without looking. I recalled a poster from those times always relevant: "Chatterbox - a godsend for a spy."
    1. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 22 September 2015 17: 53 New
      +2
      Quote: ASK505
      So much detailed information on the fleet that you are amazed. Under the Soviet regime, they would blame for this without looking. I recalled a poster from those times always relevant: "Chatterbox - a godsend for a spy."

      Yes, yes, yes ... otherwise the West did not know this information.

      These Soviet citizens under the Soviet regime officially received only the required minimum - which is why wild rumors sprang up "telling the truth - godfather's brother-in-law's godfather knew the one who saw it himself"After all, it came to insanity - Western directories with information on our fleet were kept secret.
  14. SPIKER
    SPIKER 22 September 2015 19: 06 New
    0
    Seven feet under the keel, "Admiral ..." !!!
  15. roskot
    roskot 22 September 2015 19: 19 New
    +2
    And a holiday comes to our street. The fleet is both being updated and modernized. And this cannot be overlooked.
  16. KRIG55
    KRIG55 22 September 2015 20: 08 New
    0
    The real one was Admiral of the Fleet of the Soviet Union. Under him, the ships did not rot against the wall. Seven feet under the keel of the ship, may it proudly bear its name.
    1. Awaz
      Awaz 22 September 2015 21: 51 New
      0
      Well, I served in the Navy under the USSR ... I will say that everything happened. It happened that two-thirds of the crew were idle due to lack of spare parts.
      But the crisis, I think, will catch up with some hotheads and abandon stupid aircraft carriers and concentrate on ships more needed and corresponding to the Naval Doctrine of the Russian Federation
  17. kvs207
    kvs207 22 September 2015 22: 47 New
    0
    Quote: Alexey RA
    Yes, yes, yes ... otherwise the West did not know this information.

    These Soviet citizens under the Soviet regime officially received only the required minimum - that is why wild rumors sprang up "I tell the truth - the godfather’s godfather’s godfather knew the one who saw it himself." After all, it came to insanity - Western directories with information on our fleet were kept secret.

    Also did not understand why such a veil of secrecy. I understand, if you keep secret that is not in sight, such as TTX missiles, gun mounts, type of engine, but the main measurements could be published. I wrote out the Sea Collection in the 70s to find out at least something about our fleet.
    I found out about the Kirov nuclear-powered cruiser in the Marina Calendar, published in the German Democratic Republic in 1986, and in sufficient detail, and it just shocked me. By the way, East Germans published a lot of military literature and especially did not bathe about secrecy.
    1. SSeT
      SSeT 25 September 2015 00: 05 New
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      Ohhhhhh! The German two volumes of the gift edition on rifle and tanks, 1989 edition were my technical reference books, absolutely gorgeous! I covered my teachings in NE and riflemen in theory, like a god with numbers and scans from a turtle, all tests and exams were automatic .. eh!
  18. Wolka
    Wolka 23 September 2015 05: 15 New
    0
    a handsome boat, seven feet under the keel ...
  19. oleggun
    oleggun 23 September 2015 06: 38 New
    0
    What kind of banderlog zamusnovuval article ??? A vrazhin crawled onto the site ...)