Indian Excalibur

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The Indian Defense Ministry is adopting the Excalibur assault rifle (Excalibur) chambered for 5.56 x 45 mm, conveys ВПК.name report from Indian Defense & Aerospace News.



After the purchasing decision is approved, the Ministry of Defense will sign a contract for the supply of over 600 thousand units of the new weapons.

As noted by the "MIC", "the naked eye can see from what kind of family counts the pedigree of the Indian sample."

The military chose Excalibur during a tender announced in 2011 for the purchase of an 660 thousand assault rifles.

The Indian publication notes that "none of the four samples of foreign weapons could not meet the requirements of the ground forces."

According to material from Wikipedia, "Excalibur (born Excálibur, also Escalibur) is the legendary sword of King Arthur, to which mystical and magical properties are often attributed."
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  1. +12
    21 September 2015 15: 37
    Receiver ala-AK Yes
    1. +6
      21 September 2015 15: 54
      Never a Kalashnikov! laughing The court must be sued for such things am
      1. +8
        21 September 2015 16: 14
        Are you sure that nothing has been changed inside? Appearance is not proof. Many ass tear on the British flag that the AK and MP-44 are the same. But look at the disassembled weapons and it’s immediately clear that even their working principle is different, and the appearance looks like it. If you didn’t patent it right away, now it's too late for the doctor to drink Borjomi.
    2. +3
      21 September 2015 15: 56
      Comrades, infa is not a topic but: the media report a battle between Russian marines and terrorists in Syria
      http://warfiles.ru/show-95951-smi-soobschayut-o-boe-mezhdu-rossiyskimi-morpehami
      -i-terroristami-v-sirii.html
      1. +3
        21 September 2015 16: 05
        tronin.maxim.Thank you for the info. Three corpses are two prisoners. Now, at the sight of rope and pork, these Orthodox will lay out everything.
      2. +3
        21 September 2015 16: 22
        Link to the site "Military Materials", which links to the site "Military Informant", which refers to itself ???
        Thanks so much. Could find where the ears grow.
        1. 0
          21 September 2015 17: 19
          It is no secret that firearms are developing in parallel with human culture. If we consider the samples of small arms used in the 44th century, it becomes clear that the most successful technical solutions were used in its design. In particular, the STG XNUMX and the Kalashnikov assault rifle have similar ergonomics, of which they only have the principle of a gas engine (the removal of powder gases through an orifice in the barrel bore). The use of the trigger, the layout of parts and mechanisms, the principles of locking the bore in the design of weapons; the use of machine tool equipment without significant readjustment of equipment during its production (reduction of production costs) is not new and was used in all countries involved in the production of weapons. Look at the photo for a typical bayonet-knife for a Kalashnikov assault rifle. Therefore, plagiarism in weapons production has always been everywhere. Let us then bring the primitive man to justice for the fact that he saw a stick with an attached stone and began to use it too, while the stone was larger and the stick longer. In order to reason objectively, it is necessary to see the sample in detail, to know its internal structure, etc. The properties of a weapon are primarily determined by the cartridge (ammunition), the second by the barrel, then by the automation (mechanism). In any case, this is not complete plagiarism, but probably a partial borrowing.
    3. +3
      21 September 2015 15: 58
      Well, okay ... pedigree, let there be a pedigree ... Indians rush from one extreme to another and cannot decide ..! Collect weapons from different manufacturers ... Nothing will lead to good ... Either produce your own, or purchase from one manufacturer ... In which case, it will be difficult for you! hi
    4. -4
      21 September 2015 16: 05
      According to Wikipedia, “Excalibur (Eng. Excálibur, also Escalibur) is the legendary sword of King Arthur, which is often credited with mystical and magical properties.”


      -ESCALIBUR not from Wikipedia, but from the English epic, but what’s interesting if you read ESKALIBUR the opposite, it turns out RUBILA-RUBILO
      , which actually is a sword, it becomes clear WHERE ROOT. Generally English synthetic-invented language, words or Russian or Latin, German rules
      There are still good observations, for example
      -IVENGO -in Russian will read IVANCO
      -BORNS- it is considered to be Scots, but in Russian-Ukrainian O it turns into AND -HOW MUCH-SKYLKI, then SKYT, and what if with a European aspiration? means -SKIF
      now it’s clear who these SHAVED CATTES were, Ivanka sat on Sivka-Burka and girded with a RUBLE-calibur and rode to LON DON ...
      1. +4
        21 September 2015 16: 20
        Quote: Sveles
        Generally English synthetic-invented language, words or Russian or Latin, German rules

        And you could not even study the basics of linguistics (scientific, not new-chrenological) before writing all this? They would learn the history of the English language, not Fomenko’s speculation.

        By the way, judging by your nickname, you should definitely listen to this. The opinion of linguistic scientists (namely, academician Zaliznyak) about the so-called. "Veles book".
        1. -1
          21 September 2015 16: 35
          [quote = SIvan] [quote = Sweles] Generally English synthetic-invented language, words or Russian or Latin, German rules [/ quote]
          And you could not even study the basics of linguistics (scientific, not new-chrenological) before writing all this? They would learn the history of the English language, not Fomenko’s speculation.

          By the way, judging by your nickname, you should definitely listen to this. The opinion of linguistic scientists (namely, academician Zaliznyak) about the so-called. "Veles book".


          Yes, Zaliznyak watched a complete goat, said that Russians do not need their own history, because a Russian with a history is an extremist. This "professional linguist" was analyzed into CHRONOLOGIYAORG, after he said that in Russian B does not go into V. And his "study" of the birch bark letter of St. The barbarians didn’t read, it’s just laughter, but his "brilliant research" about the Word about the Regiment of Igreva, for which he was awarded by historians from the Russian Academy of Sciences? have not read it, well, first read that this is a torso from academic science ...
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            21 September 2015 16: 50
            By the way, about the WELCOME BOOK, there are independent researchers, unlike biased historians, this is A.A. Klyosov, doctor of biology and chemistry. Academician, founder of DNA genealogy ...

            https://youtu.be/3LpBI7Y61Ns
            1. +2
              21 September 2015 17: 05
              > by the way, about the WELCOME BOOK there are independent researchers, unlike biased historians - this is A.A. Klyosov, Doctor of Biology and Chemistry, Academician, founder of DNA genealogy

              A chemist researched a book?) I thought linguists always did this.
              Proofs that Klyosov is obscurantist http://antropogenez.ru/review/814/

              Proofs proving that Zaliznyak is a goat, in the studio, unless of course you are a balabol) (Preferably for linguists, and not for janitors and other chemists)
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                21 September 2015 17: 48
                Quote: ivankursk46
                A chemist researched a book?) I thought linguists always did this.
                Proofs that Klyosov is obscurantist http://antropogenez.ru/review/814/


                Klyosov has a group of scientists working at the intersection of sciences, genetics, history, materials science

                Quote: ivankursk46
                Proofs proving that Zaliznyak is a goat, in the studio, unless of course you are a balabol) (Preferably for linguists, and not for janitors and other chemists)


                Are you not Russian? "proofs" where do they come from
                about the slug, see AREA ROADS on the link from 11m

                this is the KHRONOLOGIORG forum, where an article by zaliznyak "about professional and amateur linguistics"
                http://chronologia.org/dc/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=264&topic_id=77499&mes
                g_id = 77499 & listing_type = search
                1. +1
                  21 September 2015 19: 46
                  > Klyosov has a group of scientists working at the intersection of sciences, genetics, history, materials science
                  Does this change that he is obscurantist? Are there no philologists in that group? How then did they study the book?


                  The proof for the Novokhronolozhets is even greater than that for Klesov. It will even understand the degenerate.

                  > Official historians, thoughtlessly trusting Miller, repeat myths that do not stand up to scrutiny. For example, they claim that in 1991, US military forces sent by US President George W. Bush, supported by a multinational force, attacked and defeated Iraq, led by Saddam Hussein. And these same historians claim in all seriousness that in 2003, American armed forces, sent by US President George W. Bush, with the support of a multinational force, attacked Iraq, led by Saddam Hussein, and defeated him.

                  Any rational person should understand that there can be no similar, up to the details, coincidences in history. After all, the events and the names of the main participants coincide. It is quite obvious that we are talking about one event, which was artificially divided into two, in order to “agitate” the story. We know very well that the president in the USA rules 4 years and can be in power no more than 2 terms, that is 8 years! And here, not only does the event fully coincide, it’s also the same president. Is he full of namesake? This is ridiculous! The pitiful bleating of official historians about the fact that it is Bush Jr., the son of Bush Sr., who was president during the first attack, does not hold water. Everyone knows that power in the United States is not inherited. Yes, and why attack a second time on an already defeated country? How could the same leader remain in her after the defeat?

                  So the fact that we are talking about one event, not two, can be considered proven. But what is this event? Is the war between the United States and Iraq? But they don’t have common borders, tank divisions are mentioned in the primary sources. And how can a little Iraq fight twice with the United States, and even after losing for the first time? But since we have mentioned the desert and the name of the operation “Desert Storm”, then we are just looking for a country bordering the United States and having a desert on the border. And we find this country - this is Mexico! And when we look at the map, we are convinced of the truth of our version. After all, Basra mentioned in ancient sources is the distorted name of the border Mexican town of Banderas, and Tierra Blanca is clearly Baghdad.


                  Are there people with philological education who criticize Zaliznyak at all?
                  Monsieur, you are a dumbbell (still put it mildly)
                  1. +1
                    21 September 2015 20: 59
                    Quote: ivankursk46
                    > Klyosov has a group of scientists working at the intersection of sciences, genetics, history, materials science
                    Does this change that he is obscurantist? Are there no philologists in that group? How then did they study the book?


                    The proof for the Novokhronolozhets is even greater than that for Klesov. It will even understand the degenerate.

                    > Official historians, thoughtlessly trusting Miller, repeat myths that do not stand up to scrutiny. For example, they claim that in 1991, US military forces sent by US President George W. Bush, supported by a multinational force, attacked and defeated Iraq, led by Saddam Hussein. And these same historians claim in all seriousness that in 2003, American armed forces, sent by US President George W. Bush, with the support of a multinational force, attacked Iraq, led by Saddam Hussein, and defeated him.

                    Any rational person should understand that there can be no similar, up to the details, coincidences in history. After all, the events and the names of the main participants coincide. It is quite obvious that we are talking about one event, which was artificially divided into two, in order to “agitate” the story. We know very well that the president in the USA rules 4 years and can be in power no more than 2 terms, that is 8 years! And here, not only does the event fully coincide, it’s also the same president. Is he full of namesake? This is ridiculous! The pitiful bleating of official historians about the fact that it is Bush Jr., the son of Bush Sr., who was president during the first attack, does not hold water. Everyone knows that power in the United States is not inherited. Yes, and why attack a second time on an already defeated country? How could the same leader remain in her after the defeat?

                    So the fact that we are talking about one event, not two, can be considered proven. But what is this event? Is the war between the United States and Iraq? But they don’t have common borders, tank divisions are mentioned in the primary sources. And how can a little Iraq fight twice with the United States, and even after losing for the first time? But since we have mentioned the desert and the name of the operation “Desert Storm”, then we are just looking for a country bordering the United States and having a desert on the border. And we find this country - this is Mexico! And when we look at the map, we are convinced of the truth of our version. After all, Basra mentioned in ancient sources is the distorted name of the border Mexican town of Banderas, and Tierra Blanca is clearly Baghdad.


                    Are there people with philological education who criticize Zaliznyak at all?
                    Monsieur, you are a dumbbell (still put it mildly)


                    is that evidence, what is it? it's just a laugh laughing
                    1. 0
                      21 September 2015 22: 36
                      Quote: Sveles
                      It will even understand the degenerate.

                      Can you read? This is an example of the logic of the Newcomers.
                      It's funny that you don’t even understand this)

                      Quote: Sveles
                      Does this change that he is obscurantist? Are there no philologists in that group? How then did they study the book?

                      Are there people with philological education who criticize Zaliznyak at all?


                      Jumped off topic. Admit that you crap and get out of discussion
                      1. +1
                        22 September 2015 08: 18
                        Quote: ivankursk46
                        Quote: Sveles
                        It will even understand the degenerate.

                        Can you read? This is an example of the logic of the Newcomers.
                        It's funny that you don’t even understand this)

                        Quote: Sveles
                        Does this change that he is obscurantist? Are there no philologists in that group? How then did they study the book?

                        Are there people with philological education who criticize Zaliznyak at all?


                        Jumped off topic. Admit that you crap and get out of discussion


                        you guessed the shit on you ...
                      2. -2
                        22 September 2015 10: 21
                        Admitted that he crap - sit in silence, do not crow
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          5. +1
            21 September 2015 16: 55
            Quote: Sveles
            He said that in Russian B does not go to B.


            B does not go to B ...
          6. 0
            21 September 2015 16: 55
            Quote: Sveles
            He said that in Russian B does not go to B.


            B does not go to B ...
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      2. 0
        21 September 2015 16: 21
        Quote: Sveles
        According to Wikipedia, “Excalibur (Eng. Excálibur, also Escalibur) is the legendary sword of King Arthur, which is often credited with mystical and magical properties.”


        -ESCALIBUR not from Wikipedia, but from the English epic, but what’s interesting if you read ESKALIBUR the opposite, it turns out RUBILA-RUBILO
        , which actually is a sword, it becomes clear WHERE ROOT. Generally English synthetic-invented language, words or Russian or Latin, German rules
        There are still good observations, for example
        -IVENGO -in Russian will read IVANCO
        -BORNS- it is considered to be Scots, but in Russian-Ukrainian O it turns into AND -HOW MUCH-SKYLKI, then SKYT, and what if with a European aspiration? means -SKIF
        now it’s clear who these SHAVED CATTES were, Ivanka sat on Sivka-Burka and girded with a RUBLE-calibur and rode to LON DON ...

        Here you are a linguist, damn it! Zadornov is resting ...
        1. -2
          22 September 2015 14: 14
          Jumped up the senility Zadornov, in this you are right)
          Linguistics doesn’t even smell here, so a word game (See above a lecture by Zaliznyak)
      3. +3
        21 September 2015 16: 50
        Quote: Sveles
        WHERE ROOT

        The root is apparently hallucinogenic then!
      4. +2
        21 September 2015 16: 54
        Quote "...... and drove to LON DON ..."!

        According to the "clever logic" of the SCIENTIST!

        If you "read the opposite", "LONA DONA" will get something like "rode with" ANODE IN ANAL "!
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      6. +2
        21 September 2015 17: 43
        Quote: Sveles
        but in the Russian-Ukrainian O goes into And -


        And our distant ancestors, using the property of letters to pass one into another, could easily from cubes with the letters Ж; P; ABOUT; and And add the word "happiness". laughing
    5. 0
      21 September 2015 19: 53
      And in my opinion a hodgepodge of AK and M-16. The Indians apparently decided as in the song: I blinded him from what was, and then I fell in love with what was ")))
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  3. +6
    21 September 2015 15: 37
    Good old AK.
    1. +1
      21 September 2015 15: 51
      Quote: Hiking
      Good old AK.

      But they called it "Excalibur".
      "Excalibur is the legendary sword of King Arthur, who is often credited with mystical and magical properties." (with)
      Echoes of a colonial past? Or have they remained a cryptocolony?
      And mysticism in India. . .
      Although no matter how much you pray, no matter how you jump with a tambourine, it is not yogis and fakirs who invent weapons.
  4. +9
    21 September 2015 15: 37
    Another confirmation of the genius of Kalashnikov and Russian weapons! Bravo master!
    1. -5
      21 September 2015 15: 55
      And confirmation of the complete impotence of our justice in the field of patent protection. Although the word "PATENTED" is generally unfamiliar to our manufacturers.
      Quote: propolsky
      Another confirmation of the genius of Kalashnikov and Russian weapons! Bravo master!
      1. +2
        21 September 2015 16: 32
        Quote: dmi.pris
        the complete impotence of our justice in the field of patent protection.

        India purchased an AKM license a long time ago, back in Soviet times. An automatic machine similar to that described, that is, with the left cocking handle on the gas piston and the two-way fire fuse translator, is mentioned in the reference book of A.B. A beetle of the release of the 91st year of the last century, as being produced in India (again, Soviet times!). So justice in this case has nothing to do with it, even impotent ...
  5. +1
    21 September 2015 15: 37
    Not AK, not Zig Sauer. Although the Indians no matter how much they developed Insas, they are still used by the Kalashoids.
    1. +4
      21 September 2015 15: 51
      Quote: razgildyay
      Not AK, not Zig Sauer. Although the Indians no matter how much they developed Insas, they are still used by the Kalashoids.

      Do you mean the Swiss ZIG551, which some call "the world's best AK"? And which uses the AK gas system?

      So why not AK? Also tell me that Galil is not AK ...

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        21 September 2015 16: 33
        Maybe I don’t know much, but in my opinion it’s difficult to call this very zig a Kalashoid, only because they have the same automation principle with AK. It's like yelling that the Belgians stole ABC automation for their FAL.
        1. +1
          21 September 2015 17: 30
          They steal everything and everything ... and yet they stole it, because the scheme was successful at that time.
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  6. +9
    21 September 2015 15: 38
    I drank another. They took the AK-74, hung it with plastic and got their own, not at all foreign rifle. And once again we paid with the fact that they did not patent the design of Kalashnikov.
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    2. +3
      21 September 2015 15: 52
      A patent is not copyright; 70 years does not last. It would have long since expired. Plus, the original AK with documentation was still transferred to the PRC
      1. +1
        21 September 2015 15: 57
        And for the time that the patent would work, how much money could be obtained? The fact is that the USSR did not recognize patent law. And Kalash who just did not, including the Americans)
        1. +1
          21 September 2015 16: 15
          The USSR recognized. Another thing is that he handed out a lot to "friends".
          PS Did you hear the Swedish match? Do we have a patent for it? Complicated? Complicated!
          1. 0
            21 September 2015 16: 21
            I'm not talking about it, I'm talking about the fact that the proceeds from the use of the patent did not go to the inventor. Did we have many millionaires? Everything in the state budget.
            1. 0
              21 September 2015 16: 46
              A lot of money goes to the inventor today? I think that not a little more than the inventors of radio, television, mobile communications.
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  7. +7
    21 September 2015 15: 38
    Well, since they ripped off Kalash, they would call him "Kladenets"
  8. 0
    21 September 2015 15: 38
    Well spilled Kalashnikov, do not go to the grandmother.
  9. +2
    21 September 2015 15: 39
    Another drunk AK. It is logical, of course, but there is a question: Kalashnikov approved?
  10. +3
    21 September 2015 15: 40
    Reminds me "I blinded him, from what happened." Some awkward. As if they took different machines, disassembled, mixed the parts and assembled a new one.
  11. +1
    21 September 2015 15: 41
    This machine was exactly like dad AKA. Everything is correct, he shoots after dirt and after water, only it is necessary to brush off everything.
  12. 0
    21 September 2015 15: 41
    The etymology is clear. AK was also produced under this cartridge. To simply, without showing off, to order in the concern, no, "Excalibur" was invented. Like, under a different name - we do not recognize.
    1. 0
      21 September 2015 16: 47
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      "Excalibur" was invented. Like, under a different name - we do not recognize.

      The Indians have been using this machine for about thirty years. The described caliber is only an easy design processing (like our AK-12) ...
  13. +6
    21 September 2015 15: 43
    "The Indian edition notes that" none of the four samples of foreign weapons could not meet the requirements of the ground forces. " It was necessary to offer them a three-line))))
    1. +2
      21 September 2015 15: 46
      Quote: Max40
      "The Indian edition notes that" none of the four samples of foreign weapons could not meet the requirements of the ground forces. " It was necessary to offer them a three-line))))


      Bamboo sticks are fresh !! hi
  14. +7
    21 September 2015 15: 47
    Another continuation of the INSAS theme, recognized as the "worst copy" of the Kalashnikov Assault Rifle. According to the results of combat use, the machine gun was criticized for the impossibility of firing in continuous bursts, as well as its relatively large mass.


    True, the Indians themselves prefer to use, especially in special forces, the Israeli Tavors TAR-21 and our AK.

    1. +1
      21 September 2015 16: 08
      -Collected from parts FN FAL and AK ... Damn those that ... recourse
  15. +3
    21 September 2015 15: 57
    easier, would have bought from us Kalash
    1. +3
      21 September 2015 15: 59
      By the way, you can't see the citizens from Israel with "shouts" - this is the spitting image of "Galil" lol
      1. +1
        21 September 2015 16: 10
        Quote: quilted jacket
        By the way, you can't see the citizens from Israel with "shouts" - this is the spitting image of "Galil"


        And they, something, rarely began to be seen en masse, so, occasionally, 1-2 ...

        Monsters lurked, preparing another raid ... laughing
        1. 0
          21 September 2015 16: 19
          Quote: Tanais
          And they, something, rarely began to be seen en masse. so, occasionally, 1-2 ...

          Yes, not some get out, but others just switched to other nicknames.
          Quote: Tanais
          Monsters lurked, preparing another raid ...

          Quite possibly smile
    2. +1
      21 September 2015 16: 02
      No, when they do them they read mantras, but the Tula people do not know how.
  16. 0
    21 September 2015 16: 04
    ... to which mystical and magical properties are often attributed. "


    Kalash magic ...)
  17. +2
    21 September 2015 16: 05
    Not a fig this "novelty"! Excalibur is just one of the early-century modifications of the INSAS family, although this one has an automatic firing mode. Ergonomic. features - a loading handle like the HK G3 and a safety-translator on the left above the pistol grip, well, and a folding stock to the right.
  18. +2
    21 September 2015 16: 10
    In good hands and a stick is a weapon. Ask the French.
  19. +4
    21 September 2015 16: 11
    They canceled the cutoff of 3 rounds and returned
    continuous queue.
    Why, it’s not clear ...
    If you didn’t manage to get cut off,
    then again you will not get in line, only empty
    score. And in the open field of servants with full spare
    shops (or packs of cartridges) no.
  20. +2
    21 September 2015 16: 25
    The name is loud and the appearance is somehow not very good, I see they were blinded from what it was.
  21. 0
    21 September 2015 16: 27
    Quote: Maksus
    And for the time that the patent would work, how much money could be obtained? The fact is that the USSR did not recognize patent law. And Kalash who just did not, including the Americans)

    That's just real experts prefer the original
  22. 0
    21 September 2015 16: 33
    New Kalash for shooting sports !!! Saiga -12 Krasava !!!!!!
  23. 0
    21 September 2015 17: 01
    Another AK clone, well, the Indians always wanted and want to make weapons themselves, commendable in principle. Only some kind of ugly sword turned out, it was possible to make a more interesting design, but what is inside and without x-rays is clear.
  24. +1
    21 September 2015 17: 58
    Quote: Sveles
    According to Wikipedia, “Excalibur (Eng. Excálibur, also Escalibur) is the legendary sword of King Arthur, which is often credited with mystical and magical properties.”


    -ESCALIBUR not from Wikipedia, but from the English epic, but what’s interesting if you read ESKALIBUR the opposite, it turns out RUBILA-RUBILO
    , which actually is a sword, it becomes clear WHERE ROOT. Generally English synthetic-invented language, words or Russian or Latin, German rules
    There are still good observations, for example
    -IVENGO -in Russian will read IVANCO
    -BORNS- it is considered to be Scots, but in Russian-Ukrainian O it turns into AND -HOW MUCH-SKYLKI, then SKYT, and what if with a European aspiration? means -SKIF
    now it’s clear who these SHAVED CATTES were, Ivanka sat on Sivka-Burka and girded with a RUBLE-calibur and rode to LON DON ...

    I completely agree with you about cattle sketes. Also, their other nickname is Vlahi-Volokhi. All names come from wandering, dragging. But recently I was thinking about another nickname "Gauls". Once in languages ​​and in Russian, especially such an arbitrary transition of the letters a, o, y, s. There are a lot of examples (in my opinion: Varangian, huckster, bourgeois, bourgeois, burgher of one field of berries). Accordingly, gal, goal, hum is also one root. Gauls they are naked, they are ghouls, walking. Gulevs, Vlachs, Volokhs, sketes, wanderers.
  25. +2
    21 September 2015 18: 30
    ... academician Zaliznyak ...


    Lomonosov, I remember such academics - he straightened the faces ... And, if my memory serves me right - for the same thing ...)
  26. 0
    21 September 2015 19: 08
    Why is the caliber strange? Like NATO, but in India? Who in the subject: how long has it been in service?
  27. 0
    21 September 2015 21: 21
    Somewhere I already saw such a bayonet knife, in the English epic or something what
  28. 0
    21 September 2015 21: 46
    Quote: AlNikolaich
    Why is the caliber strange? Like NATO, but in India? Who in the subject: how long has it been in service?

    Their cartridge is better than our 5.45 in terms of performance.
  29. 0
    22 September 2015 10: 18
    Cartridge 5,56 * 45 negative
    They themselves killed this machine.