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IL-76 will be equipped with a laser

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Taganrog STC them. Beriev on the state procurement website placed an order for the implementation of a part of the ROC on the ergonomic equipment of the development of the A-60SE aircraft. From this cipher from the Soviet times there is a flying laboratory - the carrier of a laser weaponsdesigned to combat spy satellites. Reports about it Rossiyskaya Gazeta.


IL-76 will be equipped with a laser


“The development of the laser theme has been going on since the beginning of the 70s. It is theoretically supposed that a powerful laser put into orbit will be able to disable the observation and communication equipment of the spacecraft of a potential enemy. In 2009, the experiment confirmed the capabilities of the new weapon - the laser beam induced from the A-60 was detected by a satellite flying at an altitude of 1500 kilometers, ”the newspaper writes.

To fulfill this mission, the IL-76 was seriously modified at the NTK them. Beriev: “Instead of a standard meteo-radar, a fairing with a laser of guidance was installed in the nose of the aircraft. The top of the fuselage between the wing and the keel was made drop-down like that of the Shuttle. Huge sash hide retractable turret with the main laser. On the sides of the fuselage under the fairing installed powerful turbo generators to power special equipment. The first flight of the A-60 took place in August 1981 of the year, the aircraft is based at the Pushkin airfield near St. Petersburg. ”

According to the newspaper, the “SE” index in the application of the enterprise is the modern name of the Sokol-Echelon project, which suggests the use of the latest modification of the Ulyanovsk Aviastar Ulyanovsk plant for the new А-60 latest modification of the IL-76МД-90А.
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  1. bogart047
    bogart047 17 September 2015 15: 09 New
    +12
    It remains only to find the Death Star ...
    1. fox21h
      fox21h 17 September 2015 15: 14 New
      -1
      Quote: bogart047
      It remains only to find the Death Star ...
      It would not be bad, pendosy and their mongrels would not have time to change diapers, the entire military budget for excrement would be drained in the literal sense
      1. olega
        olega 17 September 2015 15: 36 New
        -19
        You are so big, and as a child, you believe in the next Putin’s wunder-waffle. fellow
        Apparently Putiners did this in fear in panties, if they decided to scare the World with old rusted weapons.
        You carefully read the article:
        In 2009, the experiment confirmed the capabilities of the new weapon - the laser beam induced from the A-60 was detected by a satellite flying at an altitude of 1500 kilometers ...
        Well fixed ... and WHAT?
        Is it straight all melted or immediately evaporated?
        Was any harm done to him?
        Real life and the Hollywood Star Wars are very different ...
        1. Manul
          Manul 17 September 2015 15: 40 New
          +8
          Quote: olega
          Apparently Putiners did this in fear in panties, if they decided to scare the World with old rusted weapons.

          Change the checkbox to Amerovsky, you are ours.
          1. Throw
            Throw 17 September 2015 15: 56 New
            +7
            The note is adequately written
            It is theoretically assumed that a powerful laser launched into orbit can disable monitoring equipment and communications of probable enemy spacecraft.

            Without any nonsense about reflow, burning, and more.
            1. veksha50
              veksha50 17 September 2015 16: 49 New
              +1
              Quote: Lance
              No nonsense about reflow, burning, etc.



              In order to burn-melt, you need uuy how much energy, and the plane cannot drag any hydroelectric power station ...

              But to dazzle optics and disable some electronics - at the modern level - that’s it ...

              True, since the mid-80s, work has been underway on nuclear-pumped combat lasers, but this is too expensive and problematic and abstruse ... However, these works were closed during the collapse of the Union ...
    2. Darkmor
      Darkmor 17 September 2015 15: 15 New
      +2
      Well, why step on an American rake? ...
      Do you want to bring down a satellite? Use a stratospheric bomber and anti-satellite rocket. It is many times cheaper and more efficient.
      1. Wedmak
        Wedmak 17 September 2015 15: 21 New
        +3
        Use a stratospheric bomber and anti-satellite rocket.

        They still need to be created. From scratch. MIG-31D does not count, it was only an experiment.
      2. olega
        olega 17 September 2015 15: 37 New
        -10
        Well, the laser is cooler !!!
        You can catch more fear, especially if in the news about this wunder-waffle you also show shots from "Star Wars" where lasers are naughty back and forth.
      3. GRAY
        GRAY 17 September 2015 15: 55 New
        +9
        Quote: Darkmor
        Do you want to bring down a satellite?

        Disable optics, this is not enough. Why bring him down if you can blind?
        Anything cheaper than launching a rocket.
      4. ASG7
        ASG7 17 September 2015 16: 31 New
        +5
        Do you think that Americans are at the top of laser technology? If something was stolen during the collapse of the Union, then it did not work out.
      5. veksha50
        veksha50 17 September 2015 16: 51 New
        +2
        Quote: Darkmor
        Do you want to bring down a satellite? Use a stratospheric bomber and anti-satellite rocket. It is many times cheaper and more efficient.



        I completely agree with you ... However, there are things that it’s not customary to speak out loud, but if they say it is allegorical ...

        Still, it seems that our slowly began to continue to develop work on combat lasers, namely on combat ...
    3. marlin1203
      marlin1203 17 September 2015 15: 15 New
      -1
      Are there any people in the subject? Do we need it? After all, it’s expensive! As far as amers know, these developments are stalled. And they do not spare their green wrappers to print on these matters. soldier
      1. Wedmak
        Wedmak 17 September 2015 15: 23 New
        +9
        As far as amers know, these developments are stalled.

        The Americans are making such a system for working on land and flying objects, i.e. in the atmosphere. Ours want to work on satellites in order to blind them and disable them. As you know, laser operation at the border of a dense atmosphere is more effective than that of the earth.
        1. Throw
          Throw 17 September 2015 17: 51 New
          +4
          Americans and others like them are trying to achieve a task that is difficult to achieve at the current level of technological development - to incapacitate a target by destroying the structure burn.

          Ours pose a very real task of defeating a beam of vulnerable components: optics, matrices, avionics.

          A simple example: if you are tired of a mobile phone smile it can be put under an industrial laser and, after spending a bunch of kilowatts, burn through the case, the board and the screen.
          Or you can just put it in the microwave for a short time. If you do not overexpose - the case will remain as new! wassat

          So why pay more if the result is one? laughing

          So ours, in fact, are starting to make an orbital electronic warfare system.
          In which we wish you success!
          1. Throw
            Throw 17 September 2015 19: 19 New
            +2
            !!! PS
            Check what will happen with the mobile phone in the microwave, I do not advise, you can also ditch the stove at the same time))
            1. digo
              digo 17 September 2015 20: 20 New
              +2
              Quote: Lance
              Check what will happen with the mobile phone in the microwave, I do not advise, you can also ditch the stove at the same time))

              Somehow, with a fool, I wanted to warm a pack of butter (a foil wrapper!) fool in the microwave - everything crackled and sparkled, that the ento "na.hren" almost exploded, okay, I managed to pull the cord out of the socket wassat recourse
              1. Throw
                Throw 17 September 2015 20: 50 New
                +1
                Forgot to put eggs laughing
      2. Draz
        Draz 17 September 2015 15: 24 New
        +6
        Americans want to shoot down missiles / planes / ships with lasers, if you remember - the main enemy of the laser on Earth is the atmosphere. At a height where the air is discharged it, perhaps, much easier task. As far as is known, the American laser boeing “successfully hit” the targets may not always, but it was the case.
        1. olega
          olega 17 September 2015 15: 39 New
          -1
          At what distance did he hit these targets?
          you will never focus the laser beam so that it would be a non-expanding beam throughout the course !!!
          And if he defocuses, then the flux density will decrease in proportion to the square of the distance.
        2. FID
          FID 17 September 2015 16: 42 New
          +5
          Quote: Draz
          As far as we know, an American Boeing with a laser "successfully hit" targets, perhaps not always, but it was

          But always at a height where there are no clouds and the atmosphere is less dense ...
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        4. gjv
          gjv 17 September 2015 19: 24 New
          0
          Quote: Draz
          As far as we know, an American Boeing with a laser "successfully hit" targets, perhaps not always, but it was the case.

          Quote: SSI
          But always at a height where there are no clouds and the atmosphere is less dense ...

          In the USA, they also worked for a long time on the creation of a combat laser system based on a modified Boeing 747-400 ° F cargo aircraft (Boeing YAL-1, ABL - AirBorne Laser), which was planned to be used for missile defense. As reported by American media, in February 2010, this installation was able to hit two ballistic missiles in the upper part of the flight. However, subsequent tests failed, and in 2011, the US Department of Defense recognized the development as not practical and expensive. As a result, in February 2012, the carrier of a combat laser was sent for storage to the site of the 309th group for maintenance and repair of aerospace engineering (AMARG), better known as the “Cemetery” (The Boneyard).
      3. GRAY
        GRAY 17 September 2015 16: 33 New
        +2
        Quote: marlin1203
        Do we need it? Expensive after all!

        It depends on what to compare. If with one launch, then yes - expensive, but if with a hundred it’s normal. Indeed, in order to bring down a satellite, if you do not twist, you need a full-fledged space launch and this is also not cheap.
      4. veksha50
        veksha50 17 September 2015 16: 53 New
        +1
        Quote: marlin1203
        Amers have these developments as far as is known stalled.


        Hmm ... how much and who knows ??? They don’t openly talk about such things ...

        And now our advertisements, too, under the roof of those who did not frighten, did ...

        And what and how to be and will actually be - they won’t write in the newspapers ...
    4. MIKHAN
      MIKHAN 17 September 2015 15: 17 New
      +5
      Breshet..no we have nothing like that .....! And there are no developments and there haven’t been ..! Do not believe ... hi
      1. Aleksey_K
        Aleksey_K 17 September 2015 15: 30 New
        +10
        Quote: MIKHAN
        Breshet..no we have nothing like that .....! And there are no developments and there haven’t been ..! Do not believe ... hi

        And the enemy Wikipedia claims the opposite:
        "A-60 - Soviet / Russian experimental flying laboratory, a carrier of laser weapons based on the Il-76MD aircraft. Designed to study the propagation of laser beams in the upper atmosphere, and then to suppress enemy reconnaissance.
        A-60 is an aviation version of the megawatt laser carrier, which was planned to be launched into space as the 17Ф19Д “Skif-D”.
        Contemporaneity
        1ЛК222 - an airborne laser system for countering the space echelon of the US national missile defense is based at the Pushkin airfield (St. Petersburg). Work on the project is ongoing. N. A. Stepanov was appointed as the chief designer of the “1A product” (from 2002 of the year - Deputy General Director, from 2007 of the year to the present, Deputy General Designer of OJSC “TANTK named after G.M. Beriev”).
        On 28 on August 2009, a comprehensive experiment was carried out in which a reflected signal was recorded when a laser beam was directed from the A-60 flying laboratory onto a spacecraft with a flight altitude of 1500 km. In 2010, new information appeared on the continuation of work on the military aviation laser system. "

        This is not a combat laser, but just a flying research laboratory, BUT.
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        2. gjv
          gjv 17 September 2015 19: 12 New
          +1
          Quote: Алексей_К
          This is not a combat laser, but just a flying research laboratory, BUT.

          There is. And the plans - the construction of the second.
          According to the well-known data, the first serial Il-76MD-90A No. 01-03 was transferred to TANTK for completion as a new A-100 AWACS aircraft at the Premier Design Bureau. As it was reported at one of the relevant forums, the second production aircraft (No. 01-04) was also transferred in April this year not to the Air Force, but to Taganrog to create an air-based laser complex on its basis for the development of the A-60 flying laboratory. As follows from the information published by TANTK on the procurement website, the new laser-armed aircraft will receive the name A-60SE [SE - probably from the name Sokol-Echelon].

          The goal of the Sokol-Echelon project is to create weapons to blind enemy reconnaissance satellites.
      2. olega
        olega 17 September 2015 15: 40 New
        -1
        Developments like that were. Even sort of ahead of the Americans.
        even afterwards, it seems, the Americans successfully bought up this case.
        But they didn’t even get to a real battle laser.
        Only experimental samples ...
    5. duchy
      duchy 17 September 2015 15: 35 New
      0
      Why look for her, we look at her all year, and we don’t live. laughing
      1. Corsair0304
        Corsair0304 17 September 2015 15: 46 New
        +5
        it’s not that we will destroy the satellite or blind or even make the operators of this garbage laugh so much that they will die of laughter in their chairs.
        The main thing is that they finally began to think about something new, an alternative to gunpowder and a rocket. And this is right, because one who stands still relative to others moves backward.
        After all, it was not casual right now, when there was not much money, and so they decided to start this project again.
        Much of what modern amers did in the USSR at one time is still inaccessible, and the fact that they are now marking time with their combat laser is not an indicator for us at all.
    6. aleks 62 next
      aleks 62 next 17 September 2015 15: 47 New
      +3
      .... But unlike amers will do .... And they will bring to mind .... fellow.... It’s not easy that they brought the development of the 80s to light .... Looks like they came up with something ..... lol
      1. FID
        FID 17 September 2015 16: 51 New
        +1
        Quote: aleks 62 next
        .. It’s not so easy that they brought into the world God's development of the 80s.

        Article 70 mentions ...
        1. gjv
          gjv 17 September 2015 19: 20 New
          +1
          Quote: aleks 62 next
          It’s not easy that they brought the development of the 80s to light ..

          Quote: SSI
          Article 70 mentions ...

          In total, two aircraft were created, but only one survived - built in 1991.

          The first instance of the A-60 / 1A1 laboratory aircraft made its debut flight on August 19, 1981, and in 1984 it was the first to hit an air target. It is known that a total of several dozen flights were carried out for the use of a laser system for a target - a stratospheric balloon located at an altitude of 30-40 km.
          But in 1993, work on the aircraft and the laser complex were discontinued. However, there is evidence that in 2003 the OCD was reopened - precisely under the Sokol-Echelon code. And in 2012, information appeared that the Almaz-Antey air defense concern, TANTK and the Voronezh company Khimpromavtomatika received a technical assignment to create a laser capable of burning through the hulls of aircraft, satellites and ballistic missiles.
          The goal of the Sokol-Echelon project is to create weapons to blind enemy reconnaissance satellites.
  2. IAlex
    IAlex 17 September 2015 15: 13 New
    -12
    34 of the year from the prototype to the “almost” finished system, and probably to the finished one there will probably be 6, and it’s not clear from the article what the Russian Federation will receive, either a combat laser for destroying objects, or a laser for disabling optics ... In general, you give the dough more and more often, and the uncertain result will be later ...
    1. svp67
      svp67 17 September 2015 15: 18 New
      +8
      Quote: IAlex
      and from the article it’s not clear what the Russian Federation will receive, either a combat laser for destroying objects, or a laser for disabling optics ...


      Corresponding Member of RARAN, Doctor of Military Sciences Konstantin Sivkov also says that today the laser media is very absolutized in the world media, which is fundamentally wrong.
      - Installing a laser on warships in the interests of missile defense will allow it to be used only in conditions where there is no cloud or fog. And fog on the sea is a fairly common phenomenon. To solve missile defense problems, questions arise of passing the beam through the atmosphere and keeping it on target. But the defeat of optical equipment is possible, since it is used in clear weather, when the laser is effective.
      But work in this area should still be continued, because these weapons are the future, especially when it comes to its use in space. It doesn’t need ammunition, with proper use of the laser an unlimited number of shots can be provided

      In 1976, the Commander-in-Chief of the Navy, Admiral Sergei Gorshkov approved the task of re-equipping the Project 770 SDK-20 medium landing craft into the Foros test vessel of Project 10030. It was planned to test the Aquilon laser complex, designed to destroy ship's optoelectronic means and the crews of enemy ships. The first laser shot from the ship was fired in the spring of 1980, and immediately hit the target. In subsequent tests, it was possible to shoot down a "low-flying rocket" with a laser beam - most likely, phalanges-type ATGMs. But I note that if the shooting lasted a couple of seconds, then it took more than a day to prepare for it (!).

      Then two planes were created, but only one survived - built in 1991. The first instance of the A-60 / 1A1 laboratory aircraft made its debut flight on August 19, 1981, and in 1984 it was the first to hit an air target. It is known that a total of several dozen flights were carried out for the use of a laser system for a target - a stratospheric balloon located at an altitude of 30-40 km.
      But in 1993, work on the aircraft and the laser complex were discontinued. However, there is evidence that in 2003 the OCD was reopened - precisely under the Sokol-Echelon code. And in 2012, information appeared that the Almaz-Antey air defense concern, TANTK and the Voronezh company Khimpromavtomatika received a technical task for the creation of a laser, capable of burning through the hulls of aircraft, satellites and ballistic missiles.
    2. lelikas
      lelikas 17 September 2015 15: 19 New
      0
      The echo of Star Wars (not cinematic, but Reagan's).
      We ourselves prove the inefficiency of laser weapons, then we create an airplane. Although, if there will be a certain analogue of "Compression" - then it’s quite a worker.
      1. Aleksey_K
        Aleksey_K 17 September 2015 15: 46 New
        +5
        Quote: lelikas
        The echo of Star Wars (not cinematic, but Reagan's).
        We ourselves prove the inefficiency of laser weapons, then we create an airplane. Although, if there will be a certain analogue of "Compression" - then it’s quite a worker.

        You kind of got to the marshal, but you didn’t bother to read carefully. The title is binding.
        The article says about the use of this laser: "It is theoretically assumed that a powerful laser put into orbit will be able to disable the monitoring and communication equipment of probable enemy spacecraft. In the 2009 year, the experiment confirmed the capabilities of a new weapon - a laser beam induced from the A-60 was detected a satellite flying at an altitude of 1500 kilometers "

        So, a laser is being developed that is not going to bring anything down in the atmosphere. Back in the 70's, Soviet scientists understood the futility of atmospheric lasers with existing technologies for providing powerful energy and the designs of the lasers themselves. And the Americans went the wrong way, but this branch of the use of lasers (the destruction of targets in the atmosphere) must be studied.
        1. lelikas
          lelikas 17 September 2015 19: 32 New
          0
          Quote: Алексей_К
          You kind of got to the marshal, but you didn’t bother to read carefully. The title is binding.

          The ability to read does not depend on a ridiculous, electronic title, even in the quote you quoted, the keyword "In theory "- this time, and if with optics everything is more - less clear - then at the expense of communication - no, it's two, Fix a beam and get damaged - as they say in not our Odessa - there are two big differences - actually three.
          And what in the first post contradicted the article?
    3. Aleksey_K
      Aleksey_K 17 September 2015 15: 35 New
      +4
      Quote: IAlex
      34 of the year from the prototype to the “almost” finished system, and probably to the finished one there will probably be 6, and it’s not clear from the article what the Russian Federation will receive, either a combat laser for destroying objects, or a laser for disabling optics ... In general, you give the dough more and more often, and the uncertain result will be later ...

      Sorry, but if you don’t do anything at all, then there will be no “indefinite result later”, but in general “no result later”.
      If everyone reasoned like you, then with batons they would fight and hide in caves.
    4. olega
      olega 17 September 2015 15: 41 New
      -7
      You're right ... there will be just another cut of babos.
      And then Rogozin will babble something about difficulties ...
    5. veksha50
      veksha50 17 September 2015 17: 03 New
      +2
      Quote: IAlex
      In general, you give the dough more and more often, and the uncertain result will be later ...



      Have you ever heard of such as venture financing ??? This is an investment of financial resources in research and development and experimental design results with an absolutely unpredictable final result, that is, profit, maybe, will be, but most likely not.

      But, if you play it safe for profit and don’t invest these financial resources in a lot of (!!!) projects (some of them should still be implemented ???), then we’ll not just stagnate in science and technology, but and back to the stone age ...

      A "dough file" ... This is a separate conversation, although it’s just venture financing that makes this file easier for dishonest applicants ... What’s easier, after 3 - 5 years to say: But it didn’t work ...

      So, I repeat: this question is very multifaceted and complex ...

      However, the topic with the development of combat lasers has a right to life, but what it has - it should develop !!!
  3. Sterlya
    Sterlya 17 September 2015 15: 15 New
    +3
    something long ago about lasers in Russia was not heard. and there will be battle lasers. how to give drink. all fiction weapons lasers. but it's fantastic now. usually everything comes true
    1. Tor5
      Tor5 17 September 2015 15: 37 New
      0
      We believe in the good!
  4. tyzyaga
    tyzyaga 17 September 2015 15: 20 New
    +2
    The main thing is that it doesn’t work like with laser guns on Boeing ...
  5. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 17 September 2015 15: 21 New
    +2
    We looked and forgot everything ..))))) bully
  6. starshina pv
    starshina pv 17 September 2015 15: 25 New
    0
    not a certain article. what they wanted to say is incomprehensible. amerikosov scare ....
  7. Lt. Air Force stock
    Lt. Air Force stock 17 September 2015 15: 25 New
    -3
    Laser air defense systems in the future will replace air defense of near radius (range 10-15 kilometers).
    1. olega
      olega 17 September 2015 15: 46 New
      -1
      This is if there is no fog or clouds.
    2. WUA 518
      WUA 518 17 September 2015 17: 54 New
      +3
      Quote: Lt. Air Force stock
      Laser air defense systems in the future will replace air defense of near radius (range 10-15 kilometers).

      Very thoughtfully! And in the distant future, long-range air defense!
      1. Lt. Air Force stock
        Lt. Air Force stock 17 September 2015 19: 25 New
        0
        Quote: WUA 518
        Very thoughtfully! And in the distant future, long-range air defense!

        I doubt the long-range effect, the laser beam is scattered in the atmosphere at large distances.
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 17 September 2015 20: 03 New
          0
          Already created a technology when the laser beam is in the beam of enlightenment - a protective beam.
  8. Shiva83483
    Shiva83483 17 September 2015 15: 28 New
    0
    Here you have a bite of the “panthers” - they’re not just going to, and we already have ... a “wunderwaffle” garne for the very-most, that sickle in the causal place. And by the way, why not hear the shout of the main dzhermokrat for this reason .. .
  9. Lecha57
    Lecha57 17 September 2015 15: 30 New
    -3
    The laser is a special-purpose weapon. It is not suitable for combat use.
    1. svp67
      svp67 17 September 2015 15: 37 New
      +2
      Quote: Lecha57
      The laser is a special-purpose weapon. It is not suitable for combat use.

      This is what you tell those who were hit by laser complexes to counter snipers ...
  10. vetlan19
    vetlan19 17 September 2015 15: 34 New
    +2
    Quote: marlin1203
    Are there any people in the subject? Do we need it? After all, it’s expensive! As far as amers know, these developments are stalled. And they do not spare their green wrappers to print on these matters. soldier


    This is trolling for money. Let the Americans fear falling behind
  11. 31rus
    31rus 17 September 2015 15: 47 New
    -2
    The laser is already weekdays, and you’re all fantastic, the work is being done both in our country (thanks to the backlog of the USSR) and in the USA, Europe, China, Japan, these are the main countries that are already capable of creating and using laser weapons (and the different principles of the operation of the lasers themselves)
  12. Moskvich
    Moskvich 17 September 2015 16: 17 New
    +1
    Quote: olega
    This is if there is no fog or clouds.

    In general, we are talking about the blinding of satellites, not destruction or "evaporation", and what do you think since 2009, over 6 years, all development has remained at the same level? As for fog and clouds, this laser is mounted on an IL-76, and not on a ship, for example, at an altitude of 10-12 km, interference in the form of clouds and even less fog is minimal.
  13. ASG7
    ASG7 17 September 2015 17: 45 New
    +4
    But a laser, by and large, is a device for emitting a directed, high-energy electromagnetic beam (wave), with all the ensuing consequences in the field of electronic warfare (intercepting and suppressing, and possibly simulating third-party radiation). So, the creation of the A-60 flying laboratory is very necessary for Russia.
    1. Mangel olys
      Mangel olys 17 September 2015 19: 31 New
      +1
      I agree. The electronic warfare reconnaissance (ER) is also part of the electronic warfare, and one of its directions is optoelectronic intelligence. The most informative is the intelligence information presented in a three-dimensional coordinate system. One of the promising ways to provide such information is holographic processing of optical signals. The device also includes a laser.
      With the help of OER, it is possible to obtain a three-dimensional image of prospected objects.
  14. TOR2
    TOR2 17 September 2015 20: 13 New
    +2
    Since Soviet times, this code has hidden a flying laboratory - a carrier of laser weapons designed to combat spy satellites.

    Theory by theory, and no one canceled the laboratory work. laughing