IL-76 will be equipped with a laser

Taganrog STC them. Beriev on the state procurement website placed an order for the implementation of a part of the ROC on the ergonomic equipment of the development of the A-60SE aircraft. From this cipher from the Soviet times there is a flying laboratory - the carrier of a laser weaponsdesigned to combat spy satellites. Reports about it Rossiyskaya Gazeta.

“The development of the laser theme has been going on since the beginning of the 70s. It is theoretically supposed that a powerful laser put into orbit will be able to disable the observation and communication equipment of the spacecraft of a potential enemy. In 2009, the experiment confirmed the capabilities of the new weapon - the laser beam induced from the A-60 was detected by a satellite flying at an altitude of 1500 kilometers, ”the newspaper writes.

To fulfill this mission, the IL-76 was seriously modified at the NTK them. Beriev: “Instead of a standard meteo-radar, a fairing with a laser of guidance was installed in the nose of the aircraft. The top of the fuselage between the wing and the keel was made drop-down like that of the Shuttle. Huge sash hide retractable turret with the main laser. On the sides of the fuselage under the fairing installed powerful turbo generators to power special equipment. The first flight of the A-60 took place in August 1981 of the year, the aircraft is based at the Pushkin airfield near St. Petersburg. ”

According to the newspaper, the “SE” index in the application of the enterprise is the modern name of the Sokol-Echelon project, which suggests the use of the latest modification of the Ulyanovsk Aviastar Ulyanovsk plant for the new А-60 latest modification of the IL-76МД-90А.

Comments

[bogart047]

It remains only to find the Death Star ...

[fox21h]

Quote: bogart047

It remains only to find the Death Star ...

It would not be bad, pendosy and their mongrels would not have time to change diapers, the entire military budget for excrement would be drained in the literal sense

[olega]

You are so big, and as a child, you believe in the next Putin’s wunder-waffle.
Apparently Putiners did this in fear in panties, if they decided to scare the World with old rusted weapons.
You carefully read the article:
In 2009, the experiment confirmed the capabilities of the new weapon - the laser beam induced from the A-60 was detected by a satellite flying at an altitude of 1500 kilometers ...
Well fixed ... and WHAT?
Is it straight all melted or immediately evaporated?
Was any harm done to him?
Real life and Hollywood Star Wars are very different ...

[Manul]

Quote: olega

Apparently Putiners did this in fear in panties, if they decided to scare the World with old rusted weapons.

Change the checkbox to Amerovsky, you are ours.

[Throw]

The note is adequately written

It is theoretically assumed that a powerful laser launched into orbit can disable monitoring equipment and communications of probable enemy spacecraft.

Without any nonsense about reflow, burning, and more.

[veksha50]

Quote: Lance

No nonsense about reflow, burning, etc.

In order to burn-melt, you need uuy how much energy, and the plane cannot drag any hydroelectric power station ...

But to dazzle optics and disable some electronics - at the modern level - that’s it ...

True, since the mid-80s, work has been underway on nuclear-pumped combat lasers, but this is too expensive and problematic and abstruse ... However, these works were closed during the collapse of the Union ...

[Darkmor]

Well, why step on an American rake? ...
Do you want to bring down a satellite? Use a stratospheric bomber and anti-satellite rocket. It is many times cheaper and more efficient.

[Wedmak]

Use a stratospheric bomber and anti-satellite rocket.

They still need to be created. From scratch. MIG-31D does not count, it was only an experiment.

[olega]

Well, the laser is cooler !!!
You can drive more fear, especially if the news about this wunder-waffe also shows shots from "Star Wars" where lasers are shuffling back and forth.

[GRAY]

Quote: Darkmor

Do you want to bring down a satellite?

Disable optics, this is not enough. Why bring him down if you can blind?
Anything cheaper than launching a rocket.

[ASG7]

Do you think that Americans are at the top of laser technology? If something was stolen during the collapse of the Union, then it did not work out.

[veksha50]

Quote: Darkmor

Do you want to bring down a satellite? Use a stratospheric bomber and anti-satellite rocket. It is many times cheaper and more efficient.

I completely agree with you ... However, there are things that it’s not customary to speak out loud, but if they say it is allegorical ...

Still, it seems that our slowly began to continue to develop work on combat lasers, namely on combat ...

[marlin1203]

Are there any people in the subject? Do we need it? After all, it’s expensive! As far as amers know, these developments are stalled. And they do not spare their green wrappers to print on these matters.

[Wedmak]

As far as amers know, these developments are stalled.

The Americans are making such a system for working on land and flying objects, i.e. in the atmosphere. Ours want to work on satellites in order to blind them and disable them. As you know, laser operation at the border of a dense atmosphere is more effective than that of the earth.

[Throw]

Americans and others like them are trying to achieve a task that is difficult to achieve at the current level of technological development - to incapacitate a target by destroying the structure burn.

Ours pose a very real task of defeating a beam of vulnerable components: optics, matrices, avionics.

A simple example: if you are tired of a mobile phone it can be put under an industrial laser and, after spending a bunch of kilowatts, burn through the case, the board and the screen.
Or you can just put it in the microwave for a short time. If you do not overexpose - the case will remain as new!

So why pay more if the result is one?

So ours, in fact, are starting to make an orbital electronic warfare system.
In which we wish you success!

[Throw]

!!! PS
Check what will happen with the mobile phone in the microwave, I do not advise, you can also ditch the stove at the same time))

[digo]

Quote: Lance

Check what will happen with the mobile phone in the microwave, I do not advise, you can also ditch the stove at the same time))

Somehow, with a fool, I wanted to warm a pack of butter (a foil wrapper!) in the microwave - everything crackled and sparkled that the STE "na.h.ren" almost exploded, okay I managed to pull the cord out of the socket

[Throw]

Forgot to put eggs

[Draz]

Americans want to shoot down missiles / planes / ships with lasers, if you remember - the main enemy of the laser on Earth is the atmosphere. At a height where the air is discharged it, perhaps, makes the task much easier. As far as is known, an American Boeing with a laser "successfully hit" targets, perhaps not always, but there was a case.

[olega]

At what distance did he hit these targets?
you will never focus the laser beam so that it would be a non-expanding beam throughout the course !!!
And if he defocuses, then the flux density will decrease in proportion to the square of the distance.

[FID]

Quote: Draz

As far as is known, an American Boeing with a laser "successfully hit" targets, perhaps not always, but there was

But always at a height where there are no clouds and the atmosphere is less dense ...

[gjv]

Quote: Draz

As far as is known, an American Boeing with a laser "successfully hit" targets, perhaps not always, but there was a case.

Quote: SSI

But always at a height where there are no clouds and the atmosphere is less dense ...

In the USA, they also worked for a long time on the creation of a combat laser system based on a modified Boeing 747-400 ° F cargo aircraft (Boeing YAL-1, ABL - AirBorne Laser), which was planned to be used for missile defense. As reported by American media, in February 2010, this installation was able to hit two ballistic missiles in the upper part of the flight. However, subsequent tests failed, and in 2011, the US Department of Defense recognized the development as not practical and expensive. As a result, in February 2012, the carrier of a combat laser was sent for storage to the site of the 309th group for maintenance and repair of aerospace engineering (AMARG), better known as the “Cemetery” (The Boneyard).

[GRAY]

Quote: marlin1203

Do we need it? Expensive after all!

It depends on what to compare. If with one launch, then yes - expensive, but if with a hundred it’s normal. Indeed, in order to bring down a satellite, if you do not twist, you need a full-fledged space launch and this is also not cheap.

[veksha50]

Quote: marlin1203

Amers have these developments as far as is known stalled.

Hmm ... how much and who knows ??? They don’t openly talk about such things ...

And now our advertisements, too, under the roof of those who did not frighten, did ...

And what and how to be and will actually be - they won’t write in the newspapers ...

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Breshet..no we have nothing like that .....! And there are no developments and there haven’t been ..! Do not believe ...

[Aleksey_K]

Quote: MIKHAN

Breshet..no we have nothing like that .....! And there are no developments and there haven’t been ..! Do not believe ...

And the enemy Wikipedia claims the opposite:
"A-60 is a Soviet / Russian experimental flying laboratory, a carrier of laser weapons based on the Il-76MD aircraft. It is intended to study the propagation of laser beams in the upper layers of the atmosphere, and later to suppress enemy reconnaissance."
A-60 is an aviation version of the megawatt laser carrier, which was planned to be launched into space as the 17Ф19Д “Skif-D”.
Contemporaneity
1ЛК222 - an airborne laser system for countering the space echelon of the US national missile defense is based at the Pushkin airfield (St. Petersburg). Work on the project is ongoing. N. A. Stepanov was appointed as the chief designer of the “1A product” (from 2002 of the year - Deputy General Director, from 2007 of the year to the present, Deputy General Designer of OJSC “TANTK named after G.M. Beriev”).
On August 28, 2009, a complex experiment was carried out, in which a reflected signal was recorded when aiming a laser beam from the A-60 flying laboratory at a spacecraft with an altitude of 1500 km. In 2010, new information appeared about the continuation of work on the military aviation laser system. "

This is not a combat laser, but just a flying research laboratory, BUT.

[gjv]

Quote: Алексей_К

This is not a combat laser, but just a flying research laboratory, BUT.

There is. And the plans - the construction of the second.
According to the well-known data, the first serial Il-76MD-90A No. 01-03 was transferred to TANTK for completion as a new A-100 AWACS aircraft at the Premier Design Bureau. As it was reported at one of the relevant forums, the second production aircraft (No. 01-04) was also transferred in April this year not to the Air Force, but to Taganrog to create an air-based laser complex on its basis for the development of the A-60 flying laboratory. As follows from the information published by TANTK on the procurement website, the new laser-armed aircraft will receive the name A-60SE [SE - probably from the name Sokol-Echelon].

The goal of the Sokol-Echelon project is to create weapons to blind enemy reconnaissance satellites.

[olega]

Developments like that were. Even sort of ahead of the Americans.
even afterwards, it seems, the Americans successfully bought up this case.
But they didn’t even get to a real battle laser.
Only experimental samples ...

[duchy]

Why look for her, we look at her all year, and we don’t live.

[Corsair0304]

it’s not that we will destroy the satellite or blind or even make the operators of this garbage laugh so much that they will die of laughter in their chairs.
The main thing is that they finally began to think about something new, an alternative to gunpowder and a rocket. And this is right, because one who stands still relative to others moves backward.
After all, it was not casual right now, when there was not much money, and so they decided to start this project again.
Much of what modern amers did in the USSR at one time is still inaccessible, and the fact that they are now marking time with their combat laser is not an indicator for us at all.

[aleks 62 next]

.... But unlike amers will do .... And they will bring to mind .... .... It’s not easy that they brought the development of the 80s to light .... Looks like they came up with something .....

[FID]

Quote: aleks 62 next

.. It’s not so easy that they brought into the world God's development of the 80s.

Article 70 mentions ...

[gjv]

Quote: aleks 62 next

It’s not easy that they brought the development of the 80s to light ..

Quote: SSI

Article 70 mentions ...

In total, two aircraft were created, but only one survived - built in 1991.

The first instance of the A-60 / 1A1 laboratory aircraft made its debut flight on August 19, 1981, and in 1984 it was the first to hit an air target. It is known that a total of several dozen flights were carried out for the use of a laser system for a target - a stratospheric balloon located at an altitude of 30-40 km.
But in 1993, work on the aircraft and the laser complex were discontinued. However, there is evidence that in 2003 the OCD was reopened - precisely under the Sokol-Echelon code. And in 2012, information appeared that the Almaz-Antey air defense concern, TANTK and the Voronezh company Khimpromavtomatika received a technical assignment to create a laser capable of burning through the hulls of aircraft, satellites and ballistic missiles.
The goal of the Sokol-Echelon project is to create weapons to blind enemy reconnaissance satellites.

[IAlex]

34 years from a prototype to an "almost" finished system, and it will probably still be 6 years before the finished one, and it is still not clear from the article what the Russian Federation will receive, either a combat laser to destroy objects, or a laser to disable optics ... In general, you give more dough and more often, and an indefinite result will come later ...

[svp67]

Quote: IAlex

and from the article it’s not clear what the Russian Federation will receive, either a combat laser for destroying objects, or a laser for disabling optics ...

Corresponding Member of RARAN, Doctor of Military Sciences Konstantin Sivkov also says that today the laser media is very absolutized in the world media, which is fundamentally wrong.
- Installing a laser on warships in the interests of missile defense will allow it to be used only in conditions where there is no cloud or fog. And fog on the sea is a fairly common phenomenon. To solve missile defense problems, questions arise of passing the beam through the atmosphere and keeping it on target. But the defeat of optical equipment is possible, since it is used in clear weather, when the laser is effective.
But work in this area should still be continued, because these weapons are the future, especially when it comes to its use in space. It doesn’t need ammunition, with proper use of the laser an unlimited number of shots can be provided

In 1976, the Commander-in-Chief of the Navy, Admiral Sergei Gorshkov approved the task of re-equipping the Project 770 SDK-20 medium landing craft into the Foros test vessel of Project 10030. It was planned to test the Aquilon laser complex, designed to destroy ship's optoelectronic means and the crews of enemy ships. The first laser shot from the ship was fired in the spring of 1980, and immediately hit the target. In subsequent tests, it was possible to shoot down a "low-flying rocket" with a laser beam - most likely, phalanges-type ATGMs. But I note that if the shooting lasted a couple of seconds, then it took more than a day to prepare for it (!).

Then two planes were created, but only one survived - built in 1991. The first instance of the A-60 / 1A1 laboratory aircraft made its debut flight on August 19, 1981, and in 1984 it was the first to hit an air target. It is known that a total of several dozen flights were carried out for the use of a laser system for a target - a stratospheric balloon located at an altitude of 30-40 km.
But in 1993, work on the aircraft and the laser complex were discontinued. However, there is evidence that in 2003 the OCD was reopened - precisely under the Sokol-Echelon code. And in 2012, information appeared that the Almaz-Antey air defense concern, TANTK and the Voronezh company Khimpromavtomatika received a technical task for the creation of a laser, capable of burning through the hulls of aircraft, satellites and ballistic missiles.

[lelikas]

Echoes of "Star Wars" (not cinematic, but Reagan's).
We ourselves prove the ineffectiveness of laser weapons, then we create an aircraft. Although, if there will be some analogue of "Compression" - then it's quite a worker.

[Aleksey_K]

Quote: lelikas

Echoes of "Star Wars" (not cinematic, but Reagan's).
We ourselves prove the ineffectiveness of laser weapons, then we create an aircraft. Although, if there will be some analogue of "Compression" - then it's quite a worker.

You kind of got to the marshal, but you didn’t bother to read carefully. The title is binding.
The article says about the use of this laser: "It is theoretically assumed that a powerful laser launched into orbit will be able to disable the observation and communication equipment of spacecraft of a potential enemy. In 2009, the experiment confirmed the capabilities of the new weapon - a laser beam aimed from the A-60 was detected. satellite flying at an altitude of 1500 kilometers "

So, a laser is being developed that is not going to bring anything down in the atmosphere. Back in the 70's, Soviet scientists understood the futility of atmospheric lasers with existing technologies for providing powerful energy and the designs of the lasers themselves. And the Americans went the wrong way, but this branch of the use of lasers (the destruction of targets in the atmosphere) must be studied.

[lelikas]

Quote: Алексей_К

You kind of got to the marshal, but you didn’t bother to read carefully. The title is binding.

The ability to read does not depend in any way on a funny, electronic title, even in the quote you quoted, the key word "In theory "- this time, and if everything is more or less clear with optics - then at the expense of communication - no, it's two, Fix the beam and get damaged - as they say in not our Odessa - two big differences - actually three.
And what in the first post contradicted the article?

[Aleksey_K]

Quote: IAlex

34 years from a prototype to an "almost" finished system, and it will probably still be 6 years before the finished one, and it is still not clear from the article what the Russian Federation will receive, either a combat laser to destroy objects, or a laser to disable optics ... In general, you give more dough and more often, and an indefinite result will come later ...

Sorry, but if you do nothing at all, then not only "undefined result later", but in general "no result later" will be.
If everyone reasoned like you, then with batons they would fight and hide in caves.

[olega]

You're right ... there will be just another cut of babos.
And then Rogozin will babble something about difficulties ...

[veksha50]

Quote: IAlex

In general, you give the dough more and more often, and the uncertain result will be later ...

Have you ever heard of such as venture financing ??? This is an investment of financial resources in research and development and experimental design results with an absolutely unpredictable final result, that is, profit, maybe, will be, but most likely not.

But, if you play it safe for profit and don’t invest these financial resources in a lot of (!!!) projects (some of them should still be implemented ???), then we’ll not just stagnate in science and technology, but and back to the stone age ...

And "sawing the dough" ... This is a separate conversation, although it is venture financing that makes this file easier for its unscrupulous applicants ... What is it really easier, after 3 - 5 years to declare: It didn't work out ...

So, I repeat: this question is very multifaceted and complex ...

However, the topic with the development of combat lasers has a right to life, but what it has - it should develop !!!

[Sterlya]

something long ago about lasers in Russia was not heard. and there will be battle lasers. how to give drink. all fiction weapons lasers. but it's fantastic now. usually everything comes true

[Tor5]

We believe in the good!

[Tyzyaga]

The main thing is that it doesn’t work like with laser guns on Boeing ...

[Vitaly Anisimov]

We looked and forgot everything ..)))))

[starshina pv]

not a certain article. what they wanted to say is incomprehensible. amerikosov scare ....

[Lt. Air Force stock]

Laser air defense systems in the future will replace air defense of near radius (range 10-15 kilometers).

[olega]

This is if there is no fog or clouds.

[WUA 518]

Quote: Lt. air force reserve

Laser air defense systems in the future will replace air defense of near radius (range 10-15 kilometers).

Very thoughtfully! And in the distant future, long-range air defense!

[Lt. Air Force stock]

Quote: WUA 518

Very thoughtfully! And in the distant future, long-range air defense!

I doubt the long-range effect, the laser beam is scattered in the atmosphere at large distances.

[Vadim237]

Already created a technology when the laser beam is in the beam of enlightenment - a protective beam.

[Shiva83483]

Here's to you, take a bite of the "pantners" - they are not just getting ready, but we already have ... garna "wunderwaffle" for the most, that with a sickle in a causal place. And by the way, something is not heard screaming of the main zermokrats about this .. ...

[Lecha57]

The laser is a special-purpose weapon. It is not suitable for combat use.

[svp67]

Quote: Lecha57

The laser is a special-purpose weapon. It is not suitable for combat use.

This is what you tell those who were hit by laser complexes to counter snipers ...

[vetlan19]

Quote: marlin1203

Are there any people in the subject? Do we need it? After all, it’s expensive! As far as amers know, these developments are stalled. And they do not spare their green wrappers to print on these matters.

This is trolling for money. Let the Americans fear falling behind

[31rus]

The laser is already weekdays, and you’re all fantastic, the work is being done both in our country (thanks to the backlog of the USSR) and in the USA, Europe, China, Japan, these are the main countries that are already capable of creating and using laser weapons (and the different principles of the operation of the lasers themselves)

[Moscow]

Quote: olega

This is if there is no fog or clouds.

In general, we are talking about the blinding of satellites, not destruction or "evaporation", and how do you think since 2009, for 6 years, all development has remained at the same level? As for fog and clouds, this laser is mounted on the IL-76, and not on, for example, a ship, at an altitude of 10-12 km, interference in the form of clouds and even more so fog is minimal.

[ASG7]

But a laser, by and large, is a device for emitting a directed, high-energy electromagnetic beam (wave), with all the ensuing consequences in the field of electronic warfare (intercepting and suppressing, and possibly simulating third-party radiation). So, the creation of the A-60 flying laboratory is very necessary for Russia.

[Mangel olys]

I agree. The electronic warfare reconnaissance (ER) is also part of the electronic warfare, and one of its directions is optoelectronic intelligence. The most informative is the intelligence information presented in a three-dimensional coordinate system. One of the promising ways to provide such information is holographic processing of optical signals. The device also includes a laser.
With the help of OER, it is possible to obtain a three-dimensional image of prospected objects.

[TOR2]

Since Soviet times, this code has hidden a flying laboratory - a carrier of laser weapons designed to combat spy satellites.

Theory by theory, and no one canceled the laboratory work.