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Poroshenko reiterated that the West should supply Ukraine with weapons

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The President of Ukraine has once again declared that Ukraine needs supplies weapons West. At the same time Poroshenko notes that the weapon will be "purely defensive", since "an offensive Ukraine can produce itself". Ukroprezidenta quotes American newspaper The Washington Post (transfer RIA News):
We are not talking about deadly weapons. Ukraine is an industrialized country that can manufacture its own weapons. We are talking about defensive armament, which will help us only for protection. Now we are trying to create an effective defense system. This is what we are discussing with the Americans.



Poroshenko once again declared the overwhelming desire to cooperate with the countries of the North Atlantic Alliance:
It is important for us to support the Transatlantic Union. It is also important that our country receive support, and not only in words.
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Poroshenko commented on the fact that the West has not yet begun to supply arms to Ukraine. According to Poroshenko, in the army of Ukraine "corruption still takes place", and also it (the army) is "infiltrated by Russian agents."

Poroshenko:
They (the authorities of Western countries - comment “IN”) said that, firstly, Ukraine has no army at all, secondly, everything that we give you will be from Russia, and thirdly - corruption is rampant in the army.


After that, in an interview with Western media Poroshenko expressed the view that the Ukrainian army "is gradually overcoming problems." Does this mean that we managed to cope with corruption in the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the NSU, and could we identify the “infiltrating Russian agents”? ..



I wonder how, in Poroshenko’s opinion, his statements about the need to fulfill the Minsk agreements before the end of the year are combined with the “weapon” requests made in relation to the West, and what specifically defensive armaments (“Javelins”? ..) Poroshenko understands? ..
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  1. vodolaz
    vodolaz 14 September 2015 13: 29 New
    +29
    As you do not listen to ukroraviteli all owe them. And when the rest of the world managed to Ukraine then owe it?
    1. SS68SS
      SS68SS 14 September 2015 13: 31 New
      +10
      Quote: vodolaz
      As you do not listen to ukroraviteli all owe them. And when the rest of the world managed to Ukraine then owe it?

      I didn’t play enough soldiers in childhood, where I beat him. Do not get drunk with human blood, ghoul.
      And "ETO" rules the country .... It's a shame for the Ukrainians. It seems not stupid people, but they are carried on tales of such parasites and a rabbit ...
      1. Now we are free
        Now we are free 14 September 2015 13: 36 New
        +35
        Poroshenko reiterated that the West should supply Ukraine with weapons

        Petya you already instead of the "Javelins" Elton John set so calm down.
        1. Baikonur
          Baikonur 14 September 2015 13: 42 New
          +4
          He has only one typical Ukrainian weapon - the back hole, which he easily offers to his black master!
          Begging for at least a little something for his battered, gouging, flabby ..pu!
        2. roadsmell
          roadsmell 14 September 2015 13: 59 New
          0
          Poroshenko reiterated that the West should supply Ukraine with weapons

          A man said, a man did - he pulled out a hat in his hand and darted around the world in 80 days ..
          And if you don’t rush, it means Liu .. Elton John laughing
        3. g1v2
          g1v2 14 September 2015 16: 08 New
          +1
          Well, laughter, laughter, but something tossed at him. The VD countries that entered into NATO under the treaty in 2004 are obliged to switch to NATO weapons. So, as the old Soviet is replaced, they will need to put it somewhere. Bulgaria, Hungary, the Czech Republic and Slovakia rafts it to Iraq and Nigeria on the cheap (mtlb, howitzer d30, t72, etc.). There it is in the subject. Romanians do not have money for new things, but they have plans to annex Moldova, and they will not get rid of weapons. The Baltic states have no weapons except poop; they have nothing to get rid of. Remains the best friend of Bandera - Poland. As the old weapons are replaced by old-time NATO, it will most likely be fused into dill. Over the past few years, the Poles have been written off as one and a half hundred hailstones and two and a half hundred carnations. Of course, it is possible that they served as donors to the remaining, but it is possible that some of them went to dill. Again, the Poles announced the modernization of aviation and air defense, which means that the Polish su22 and mig29 may be in the possession of the piglet (there is money to be disposed of, but here it will be used by the VSN laughing ) Plus cloves and Dana non-NATO calibers - 122 and 152 mm, from which the Poles will switch to 155 mm. And from BMP1 and BRDM2 they will probably also switch to German or state equipment. True, in the case of armored vehicles, the rearmament will be long, because the Poles have no money for this yet.
          1. SibSlavRus
            SibSlavRus 14 September 2015 20: 24 New
            +1
            With the "hereditary" weapons (and the existing potential) that was and is in Ukraine, you can long and hard fight against almost any enemy. It is only a matter of the “carriers and applicators” of this weapon, as well as the brains and the moral and psychological state. The militia of Donbass and its "cadres" have proved this.
            And no matter how perfect the weapon is, a competent and motivated operator with decent leadership is attached to it. Otherwise, you will not see success.
          2. Nyrobsky
            Nyrobsky 15 September 2015 10: 18 New
            0
            Quote: g1v2
            The Baltic states have no weapons except poop; they have nothing to get rid of.

            They don’t have anything to get rid of, but "to support the Durkain in the fight against the aggressor" - here they come first. This is probably why the party of the Javelins is sent to Lithuania - which it will "share" with Petruha.
            And the mattresses aside - it seems like they don’t deliver anything to the dill.
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    2. Ruthless
      Ruthless 14 September 2015 13: 33 New
      +3
      Permanent hangover affects, because of which parsley is completely unbelted laughing
    3. little girl15
      little girl15 14 September 2015 13: 36 New
      +2
      What gorilochka Petya uses, how he carries it!
      1. MIKHAN
        MIKHAN 14 September 2015 13: 42 New
        +2
        Again waved viskar ... Sakashvilli waiting .....
        1. Reserve officer
          Reserve officer 14 September 2015 14: 36 New
          +1
          They said - Petya, do not bother! And he is all - a cocktail, a cocktail ...
    4. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith 14 September 2015 13: 43 New
      +12
      And there is an old picture
    5. marlin1203
      marlin1203 14 September 2015 14: 15 New
      +3
      Yes, Ukraine, it seems, only Vanuatu should not yet. Although ... not sure ... laughing
    6. wasjasibirjac
      wasjasibirjac 14 September 2015 15: 49 New
      +1
      Quote: vodolaz
      As you do not listen to ukroraviteli all owe them. And when the rest of the world managed to Ukraine then owe it?

      don’t you remember - who destroyed the dinosaurs? and who dug up the Black Sea? but who created the concept of "writing"? There is only one answer - the great Ukrainians. and for the past of these and other great deeds, you can imagine what interest was accumulated. and as Ukrainians-direct descendants of the great ukrov and their legal successors-THE WHOLE WORLD MUST BE HIM! laughing good
  2. vsoltan
    vsoltan 14 September 2015 13: 29 New
    +4
    Petyunya is completely confused. ... this way, that way. ..delirium tremens or whims of the prostitute's elderly?
    1. Finches
      Finches 14 September 2015 13: 32 New
      +4
      It seems to me that Gauleiter of all Ukraine Payette, as soon as Petyunya begins to sober up, throws everything and runs, through the stall, to Bankovskaya! Bringing the head of the junta to a working and managed state! laughing
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  4. Zoldat_A
    Zoldat_A 14 September 2015 13: 32 New
    +3
    They (the authorities of Western countries - comment “IN”) said that, firstly, Ukraine has no army at all, secondly, everything that we give you will be from Russia, and thirdly - corruption is rampant in the army.
    - Poroshenko complained to Putin, spreading his fists on the large tears rolling down his cheeks swollen from drinking ...

    I, too, Captain Evidence has been spotted ...
  5. RBLip
    RBLip 14 September 2015 13: 32 New
    +28
    Petya, puff, do not puff, everything is clear with you ...
  6. prabiz
    prabiz 14 September 2015 13: 33 New
    0
    What, not what began to trade in free then?
  7. vkl-47
    vkl-47 14 September 2015 13: 33 New
    +2
    Yes debbl he is muddy
  8. Aibolit64
    Aibolit64 14 September 2015 13: 35 New
    +1
    The Americans can’t forget the army of rodents in any way; they also trained and armed them. The result, as they say, was on the faces of rodents, and American weapons were in the arsenals of Russia. soldier
  9. B.T.V.
    B.T.V. 14 September 2015 13: 35 New
    0
    "It was I who came to you - delirium tremens."
  10. vitaliy.rnd
    vitaliy.rnd 14 September 2015 13: 36 New
    +1
    Poroshenko and Yatsenyuk forget one important thing ... The West owes nothing to Ukraine. Rather, it's quite the opposite.
  11. roskot
    roskot 14 September 2015 13: 39 New
    +2
    firstly, Ukraine doesn’t have an army at all, secondly, everything that we give you will be with Russia, thirdly, corruption is rampant in the army.

    Weighty arguments. So it reached the Western partners. And then - one of the best, most efficient in Europe ..
  12. Baloo
    Baloo 14 September 2015 13: 42 New
    +3
    Poroshenko:
    They (the authorities of Western countries - comment “IN”) said that, firstly, Ukraine has no army at all, secondly, everything that we give you will be from Russia, and thirdly - corruption is rampant in the army.


    Over the year, Porosenko’s salo increased 7 times, a dozen Ukrainian generals became multi-million dollar dollars per year, 2 bought property in London. Do these people want peace?
    1. ia-ai00
      ia-ai00 14 September 2015 13: 51 New
      0
      Correctly the husband says: - "Before giving alms, on I give birth look good at whom you serve! "... recourse
  13. sinukvl
    sinukvl 14 September 2015 13: 43 New
    +20
    in the army of Ukraine "there is still corruption",
    . Yes, corruption has a place to be, but the army is dumb!
  14. Black Colonel
    Black Colonel 14 September 2015 13: 45 New
    +2
    Petruccio asks for defensive weapons, so give him a helmet and museum cuirass. Well, the weapon is not lethal!
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  16. Alexnder
    Alexnder 14 September 2015 13: 46 New
    +7
    Petya, I would like to clarify, but how does it turn out that the most combat-ready army in Europe is still corrupt and infiltrated by Russian agents ?!

    Overdone and under-suffused in the morning?
  17. Gormenghast
    Gormenghast 14 September 2015 13: 47 New
    +3
    And what is the fundamental difference between offensive and defensive weapons? laughing

    Offensive know how to do? Means aggressorsas it was said.

    By the way, yesterday 280 thousand bayonets literally boasted. But in the West they are not seen.
  18. Stas 86
    Stas 86 14 September 2015 13: 48 New
    0
    Poroshenko reiterated that the West should

    The West has hit, I do not envy them laughing.
  19. Bvg132
    Bvg132 14 September 2015 13: 50 New
    +2
    Anticipating the next boilers, he asks for only defensive weapons. That's right, life and the militias taught that they do not attack from the boilers. Only surrender to the mercy of the winner
  20. roskot
    roskot 14 September 2015 13: 51 New
    0
    Ukraine is an industrialized country, which itself can produce its weapons.

    But constantly begs for all weapons and money.
  21. surovts.valery
    surovts.valery 14 September 2015 13: 51 New
    0
    It’s interesting how, according to Poroshenko, his statements about the need to implement the Minsk agreements are joined by the “arms” requests expressed in respect of the West by the end of the year, and what exactly does Poroshenko understand by defensive weapons (Javelins? ..)? ..

    But how, for some reason, his statement about the need to conduct a military operation to ensure "the implementation of the Minsk agreements by the Donbass" was almost unnoticed? Are his ravings really not taken seriously by the West? It is interesting for me to see which of the European people subscribe to join Peitz in such an adventure? That is why probably his announcement was left without attention.
  22. Corsair0304
    Corsair0304 14 September 2015 13: 52 New
    0
    Well, what can I add ... Is that it ..
    1. Das Boot
      Das Boot 14 September 2015 14: 15 New
      +1
      Quote: Corsair0304
      Well, what can I add ... Is that it ..

      IMHO, cartoonists also have their own Petrosyans ....
    2. Amurets
      Amurets 14 September 2015 15: 29 New
      +1
      He shouldn’t be given weapons at all. He’ll cut himself cold, shoot something for himself with a gunshot.
  23. Michael67
    Michael67 14 September 2015 13: 57 New
    +4
    Everything is according to plan. Outwardly, it looks like schizophrenia, so that the population is neighing. And behind the external abnormality lies the systematic implementation of the Anglicos program. He is "Parsley" from the puppet theater. He amuses the audience. The guide behind the screen is not visible. And leadership is not stupid people. West stands behind any parsley blathering. You know, they have whole research institutes working against us. Vigilance and dry powder, the army and navy are our allies.
    1. Polite Moose
      Polite Moose 14 September 2015 18: 27 New
      +1
      Quote: Michael67
      Everything is according to plan. Outwardly, it looks like schizophrenia, so that the population is neighing. And behind the external abnormality lies the systematic implementation of the Anglicos program. He is "Parsley" from the puppet theater. He amuses the audience. The guide behind the screen is not visible. And leadership is not stupid people. West stands behind any parsley blathering. You know, they have whole research institutes working against us. Vigilance and dry powder, the army and navy are our allies.


      I fully support you. There should be no reason for fun. I would be surprised if Poroshenko’s request for arms supplies was left unsatisfied. And in warehouses these weapons will not be dusted. And where is the guarantee that there will be no air defense systems with a range of 10 km or more? It is likely that new Boeings will appear, only ours.
  24. KRIG55
    KRIG55 14 September 2015 14: 01 New
    +2
    Everyone who owes anything to Ukraine - get in line !!!
    1. Dezinto
      Dezinto 14 September 2015 14: 42 New
      +1
      Everyone who owes anything to Ukraine


      Well, quickly threw afigilliards great ukram prosperity! lol
  25. Gouging
    Gouging 14 September 2015 14: 02 New
    0
    The West is probably himself in ah ... Prostration that he owes something to Ukraine. Usually everyone owes the West. And Usraina will receive, as always, a "red peeling stump" (Janissary), along with a bunch of assurances that "America with Ukraine."
  26. BABAY22
    BABAY22 14 September 2015 14: 16 New
    +9
    Hold on! Help is already underway!
  27. Siberia 9444
    Siberia 9444 14 September 2015 14: 21 New
    +1
    We are an industrialized country and we can create weapons ourselves laughing but milk a weapon for free lol fool
  28. sgr291158
    sgr291158 14 September 2015 14: 25 New
    +1
    Slingshot Dill can be done in sufficient numbers.
  29. IAlex
    IAlex 14 September 2015 14: 36 New
    0
    And everything else that was supplied all year already ditched or what?
  30. Vladimir57
    Vladimir57 14 September 2015 14: 42 New
    +5
    Forum users, sorry, I repeat ...
    1. Das Boot
      Das Boot 14 September 2015 17: 28 New
      0
      Quote: Vladimir57
      Forum users, sorry, I repeat ...
  31. Das Boot
    Das Boot 14 September 2015 14: 42 New
    0
    quoted by the American newspaper Washington Post (translation by RIA Novosti):
    We are not talking about deadly weapons


    norms translators at RIA Novosti. laughing а non-lethal weapon, therefore - "deadly weapon"
    "The deadly fight of the Boritsu .." (c)
  32. Masya masya
    Masya masya 14 September 2015 15: 26 New
    +3
    Wow, they can create offensive weapons, but no defensive, paradox!
  33. akudr48
    akudr48 14 September 2015 15: 31 New
    0
    It’s important for us to support the Transatlantic Alliance.

    And if Square does not support the Transatlantic Union, then end the alliance?

    From modesty, the leader of the junta will not die.

    Russia was lucky that in the Ukrainian army “corruption still exists”, and also it (the army) is “infiltrated by Russian agents”.

    But imagine for a moment (strain your imagination to the maximum) that there is no corruption in the Ukrainian army, will such an army exist?

    Therefore, Waltzman provides the "place of corruption", since without Madame Corruption (in Russian - theft), the Ukrainian army will immediately disintegrate.
  34. asar
    asar 14 September 2015 15: 48 New
    +1
    It looks like a deep hangover - weapons are not deadly!
    What kind of weapon are these - firecrackers and flappers for flies, so is there a petunia ?!
    And with what recession did the petunia decide that dill is an industrialized country?
    It was once, but obviously not today!
  35. loaln
    loaln 14 September 2015 15: 48 New
    0
    Yes, give it to this indefatigable in his desires to fill a pocket on any supplies with a worried state husband.
    Just wondering what, after that, will he beg for? What will drive the received - it is clear, but what will be next?
  36. boris-1230
    boris-1230 14 September 2015 16: 23 New
    +1
    Well, if he asks, you need to send him a gun with one bullet.
  37. iouris
    iouris 14 September 2015 17: 41 New
    0
    Do not have illusions. As long as the Russian Federation exists, Ukrainians will not collect debts from the Russians, and they will supply weapons (Soviet) as needed, as long as the regime exists.
  38. MolGro
    MolGro 14 September 2015 17: 45 New
    +3
    Petya has his own wall with icons)
  39. ltx777
    ltx777 14 September 2015 20: 32 New
    0
    Petya is insulting, they forgot everything about UKRAINE in connection with the flow of refugees in Europe, and as they say if you are not at the hearing, it means you don’t exist ....
  40. Weyland
    Weyland 14 September 2015 23: 00 New
    0
    secondly, everything that we give you will be in Russia

    I remembered Marshak’s poem "bottomless vat"

    Wishing to save the Kuomintang,
    Merchant bankers
    Threw money at the old vat -
    Bottomless Chiang Kai-shek.

    But all that the Yankees gave
    Guns and tanks,
    And cans of milk
    Tobacco, cars, -
    Intercepted in battles
    People’s troops.

    Now bottomless tub
    Nailed to the island of Taiwan,
    And there are her remains
    The Yankees gathered to repair.

    But Uncle Sam, you are your pocket
    Desolate to the bottom
    And you won’t save a leaky vat,
    Bottomless Chiang Kai-shek.

    No matter how hard you try, anyway
    There will be no bottom at the vat.
    Maybe he will see the bottom
    But only - the ocean!
  41. Evil 55
    Evil 55 15 September 2015 04: 59 New
    0
    Chocolate Ghoul - new UKRALinskaya tale ...
  42. mamont5
    mamont5 15 September 2015 08: 07 New
    0
    Quote: vodolaz
    As you do not listen to ukroraviteli all owe them. And when the rest of the world managed to Ukraine then owe it?

    And when he supported the coup in Ukraine in February 2014. (just not the WHOLE world, of course)
  43. Algetxnumx
    Algetxnumx 16 September 2015 11: 25 New
    0
    Quote: SS68SS
    It's a shame for the Ukrainians. It seems not stupid people, but they are carried on tales of such parasites and a rabbit ...

    Each people deserves those rulers whom they themselves have chosen, so that let them pity themselves.