Poroshenko reiterated that the West should supply Ukraine with weapons

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The President of Ukraine has once again declared that Ukraine needs supplies weapons West. At the same time Poroshenko notes that the weapon will be "purely defensive", since "an offensive Ukraine can produce itself". Ukroprezidenta quotes American newspaper The Washington Post (transfer RIA News):
We are not talking about deadly weapons. Ukraine is an industrialized country that can manufacture its own weapons. We are talking about defensive armament, which will help us only for protection. Now we are trying to create an effective defense system. This is what we are discussing with the Americans.


Poroshenko once again declared the overwhelming desire to cooperate with the countries of the North Atlantic Alliance:
It is important for us to support the Transatlantic Union. It is also important that our country receive support, and not only in words.
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Poroshenko commented on the fact that the West has not yet begun to supply arms to Ukraine. According to Poroshenko, in the army of Ukraine "corruption still takes place", and also it (the army) is "infiltrated by Russian agents."

Poroshenko:
They (the authorities of Western countries - comment “IN”) said that, firstly, Ukraine has no army at all, secondly, everything that we give you will be from Russia, and thirdly - corruption is rampant in the army.


After that, in an interview with Western media Poroshenko expressed the view that the Ukrainian army "is gradually overcoming problems." Does this mean that we managed to cope with corruption in the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the NSU, and could we identify the “infiltrating Russian agents”? ..



I wonder how, in Poroshenko’s opinion, his statements about the need to fulfill the Minsk agreements before the end of the year are combined with the “weapon” requests made in relation to the West, and what specifically defensive armaments (“Javelins”? ..) Poroshenko understands? ..
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  1. +29
    14 September 2015 13: 29
    As you do not listen to ukroraviteli all owe them. And when the rest of the world managed to Ukraine then owe it?
    1. +10
      14 September 2015 13: 31
      Quote: vodolaz
      As you do not listen to ukroraviteli all owe them. And when the rest of the world managed to Ukraine then owe it?

      I didn’t play enough soldiers in childhood, where I beat him. Do not get drunk with human blood, ghoul.
      And now "ETO" runs the country .... It's a shame for the Ukrainians. It seems that they are not stupid people, but they are led to the bikes of such parasei and rabbit ...
      1. +35
        14 September 2015 13: 36
        Poroshenko reiterated that the West should supply Ukraine with weapons

        Petya has already been installed instead of Elton John's Javelins, so calm down.
        1. +4
          14 September 2015 13: 42
          He has only one typical Ukrainian weapon - the back hole, which he easily offers to his black master!
          Begging for at least a little something for his battered, gouging, flabby ..pu!
        2. 0
          14 September 2015 13: 59
          Poroshenko reiterated that the West should supply Ukraine with weapons

          A man said, a man did - he pulled out a hat in his hand and darted around the world in 80 days ..
          And if you don’t rush, it means Liu .. Elton John laughing
        3. +1
          14 September 2015 16: 08
          Well, laughter, laughter, but something tossed at him. The VD countries that entered into NATO under the treaty in 2004 are obliged to switch to NATO weapons. So, as the old Soviet is replaced, they will need to put it somewhere. Bulgaria, Hungary, the Czech Republic and Slovakia rafts it to Iraq and Nigeria on the cheap (mtlb, howitzer d30, t72, etc.). There it is in the subject. Romanians do not have money for new things, but they have plans to annex Moldova, and they will not get rid of weapons. The Baltic states have no weapons except poop; they have nothing to get rid of. Remains the best friend of Bandera - Poland. As the old weapons are replaced by old-time NATO, it will most likely be fused into dill. Over the past few years, the Poles have been written off as one and a half hundred hailstones and two and a half hundred carnations. Of course, it is possible that they served as donors to the remaining, but it is possible that some of them went to dill. Again, the Poles announced the modernization of aviation and air defense, which means that the Polish su22 and mig29 may be in the possession of the piglet (there is money to be disposed of, but here it will be used by the VSN laughing ) Plus cloves and Dana non-NATO calibers - 122 and 152 mm, from which the Poles will switch to 155 mm. And from BMP1 and BRDM2 they will probably also switch to German or state equipment. True, in the case of armored vehicles, the rearmament will be long, because the Poles have no money for this yet.
          1. +1
            14 September 2015 20: 24
            With the "legacy" weapons (and the available potential) that was and is in Ukraine, you can fight for a long time and stubbornly with almost any enemy. The point is only in the "carriers and applicators" of this weapon, as well as in the brain and moral and psychological state. The Donbass militia and its "cadres" have proved it.
            And no matter how perfect the weapon is, a competent and motivated operator with decent leadership is attached to it. Otherwise, you will not see success.
          2. 0
            15 September 2015 10: 18
            Quote: g1v2
            The Baltic states have no weapons except poop; they have nothing to get rid of.

            They have nothing to get rid of, but "to support the Durkaine in the fight against the aggressor" - here they are in the first place. This is probably why a party of Javelins is sent to Lithuania - which she will "share" with Petrukha.
            And the mattresses aside - it seems like they don’t deliver anything to the dill.
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    2. +3
      14 September 2015 13: 33
      Permanent hangover affects, because of which parsley is completely unbelted laughing
    3. +2
      14 September 2015 13: 36
      What gorilochka Petya uses, how he carries it!
      1. +2
        14 September 2015 13: 42
        Again waved viskar ... Sakashvilli waiting .....
        1. +1
          14 September 2015 14: 36
          They said - Petya, do not bother! And he is all - a cocktail, a cocktail ...
    4. +12
      14 September 2015 13: 43
      And there is an old picture
    5. +3
      14 September 2015 14: 15
      Yes, Ukraine, it seems, only Vanuatu should not yet. Although ... not sure ... laughing
    6. +1
      14 September 2015 15: 49
      Quote: vodolaz
      As you do not listen to ukroraviteli all owe them. And when the rest of the world managed to Ukraine then owe it?

      Don't you remember who killed the dinosaurs? and who dug the Black Sea? and who created the concept of "writing"? there is only one answer - great Ukrainians. and for the past setikh and other great deeds of times, imagine what percentage gained. as well as Ukrainians-the direct descendants of the great ukrov and their successors-THE WHOLE WORLD MUST THEM! laughing good
  2. +4
    14 September 2015 13: 29
    Petyunya is completely confused. ... this way, that way. ..delirium tremens or whims of the prostitute's elderly?
    1. +4
      14 September 2015 13: 32
      It seems to me that Gauleiter of all Ukraine Payette, as soon as Petyunya begins to sober up, throws everything and runs, through the stall, to Bankovskaya! Bringing the head of the junta to a working and managed state! laughing
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  4. +3
    14 September 2015 13: 32
    They (the authorities of Western countries - comment “IN”) said that, firstly, Ukraine has no army at all, secondly, everything that we give you will be from Russia, and thirdly - corruption is rampant in the army.
    - Poroshenko complained to Putin, spreading his fists on the large tears rolling down his cheeks swollen from drinking ...

    I, too, Captain Evidence has been spotted ...
  5. +28
    14 September 2015 13: 32
    Petya, puff, do not puff, everything is clear with you ...
  6. 0
    14 September 2015 13: 33
    What, not what began to trade in free then?
  7. +2
    14 September 2015 13: 33
    Yes debbl he is muddy
  8. +1
    14 September 2015 13: 35
    The Americans can’t forget the army of rodents in any way; they also trained and armed them. The result, as they say, was on the faces of rodents, and American weapons were in the arsenals of Russia. soldier
  9. 0
    14 September 2015 13: 35
    "I came to you, delirium tremens."
  10. +1
    14 September 2015 13: 36
    Poroshenko and Yatsenyuk forget one important thing ... The West owes nothing to Ukraine. Rather, it's quite the opposite.
  11. +2
    14 September 2015 13: 39
    firstly, Ukraine doesn’t have an army at all, secondly, everything that we give you will be with Russia, thirdly, corruption is rampant in the army.

    Weighty arguments. So it reached the Western partners. And then - one of the best, most efficient in Europe ..
  12. +3
    14 September 2015 13: 42
    Poroshenko:
    They (the authorities of Western countries - comment “IN”) said that, firstly, Ukraine has no army at all, secondly, everything that we give you will be from Russia, and thirdly - corruption is rampant in the army.


    Over the year, Porosenko’s salo increased 7 times, a dozen Ukrainian generals became multi-million dollar dollars per year, 2 bought property in London. Do these people want peace?
    1. 0
      14 September 2015 13: 51
      Correctly the husband says: - "Before giving alms, on I give birth well look who you are serving! "... recourse
  13. +20
    14 September 2015 13: 43
    in the army of Ukraine "there is still corruption",
    . Yes, corruption has a place to be, but the army is dumb!
  14. +2
    14 September 2015 13: 45
    Petruccio asks for defensive weapons, so give him a helmet and museum cuirass. Well, the weapon is not lethal!
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  16. +7
    14 September 2015 13: 46
    Petya, I would like to clarify, but how does it turn out that the most combat-ready army in Europe is still corrupt and infiltrated by Russian agents ?!

    Overdone and under-suffused in the morning?
  17. +3
    14 September 2015 13: 47
    And what is the fundamental difference between offensive and defensive weapons? laughing

    Offensive know how to do? Means aggressorsas it was said.

    By the way, yesterday 280 thousand bayonets literally boasted. But in the West they are not seen.
  18. 0
    14 September 2015 13: 48
    Poroshenko reiterated that the West should

    The West has hit, I do not envy them laughing.
  19. +2
    14 September 2015 13: 50
    Anticipating the next boilers, he asks for only defensive weapons. That's right, life and the militias taught that they do not attack from the boilers. Only surrender to the mercy of the winner
  20. 0
    14 September 2015 13: 51
    Ukraine is an industrialized country, which itself can produce its weapons.

    But constantly begs for all weapons and money.
  21. 0
    14 September 2015 13: 51
    I wonder how, in Poroshenko’s opinion, his statements about the need to fulfill the Minsk agreements before the end of the year are combined with the “weapon” requests made in relation to the West, and what specifically defensive armaments (“Javelins”? ..) Poroshenko understands? ..

    And how, for some reason, his statement about the need to conduct a military operation by international forces to ensure "the implementation of the Minsk agreements by the Donbass" went almost unnoticed? Is his nonsense really not taken seriously by the West? It is interesting for me to see which of the Europeans will sign up to stand up for Peitsu in such an adventure? That is why, probably, this statement of his remained without attention.
  22. 0
    14 September 2015 13: 52
    Well, what can I add ... Is that it ..
    1. +1
      14 September 2015 14: 15
      Quote: Corsair0304
      Well, what can I add ... Is that it ..

      IMHO, cartoonists also have their own Petrosyans ....
    2. +1
      14 September 2015 15: 29
      He shouldn’t be given weapons at all. He’ll cut himself cold, shoot something for himself with a gunshot.
  23. +4
    14 September 2015 13: 57
    Everything is according to plan. Outwardly, it looks like schizophrenia, so that the population neighs. And behind the external abnormality lies the planned execution of the Anglicos program. He is "Petrushka" from the puppet theater. He amuses the audience. The leadership is not visible behind the screen. And the leadership is not stupid people. For any parsley blather, the west is. You know, they have entire research institutes working against us. Vigilance and dry powder, the army and the navy are our allies.
    1. +1
      14 September 2015 18: 27
      Quote: Michael67
      Everything is according to plan. Outwardly, it looks like schizophrenia, so that the population neighs. And behind the external abnormality lies the planned execution of the Anglicos program. He is "Petrushka" from the puppet theater. He amuses the audience. The leadership is not visible behind the screen. And the leadership is not stupid people. For any parsley blather, the west is. You know, they have entire research institutes working against us. Vigilance and dry powder, the army and the navy are our allies.


      I fully support you. There should be no reason for fun. I would be surprised if Poroshenko’s request for arms supplies was left unsatisfied. And in warehouses these weapons will not be dusted. And where is the guarantee that there will be no air defense systems with a range of 10 km or more? It is likely that new Boeings will appear, only ours.
  24. +2
    14 September 2015 14: 01
    Everyone who owes anything to Ukraine - get in line !!!
    1. +1
      14 September 2015 14: 42
      Everyone who owes anything to Ukraine


      Well, quickly threw afigilliards great ukram prosperity! lol
  25. 0
    14 September 2015 14: 02
    The West is probably in ah ... Prostration that he owes something to Ukraine. Usually everyone owes the West. And Usraina will receive, as always, a "red peeling stump" (Janissary), along with a bunch of assurances that "America is with Ukraine."
  26. +9
    14 September 2015 14: 16
    Hold on! Help is already underway!
  27. +1
    14 September 2015 14: 21
    We are an industrialized country and we can create weapons ourselves laughing but milk a weapon for free lol fool
  28. +1
    14 September 2015 14: 25
    Slingshot Dill can be done in sufficient numbers.
  29. 0
    14 September 2015 14: 36
    And everything else that was supplied all year already ditched or what?
  30. +5
    14 September 2015 14: 42
    Forum users, sorry, I repeat ...
    1. 0
      14 September 2015 17: 28
      Quote: Vladimir57
      Forum users, sorry, I repeat ...
  31. 0
    14 September 2015 14: 42
    quoted by the American newspaper Washington Post (translation by RIA Novosti):
    We are not talking about deadly weapons


    norms translators at RIA Novosti. laughing а non-lethal weapons, therefore - "non-lethal weapon"
    "Deadly fight boritsu .." (c)
  32. +3
    14 September 2015 15: 26
    Wow, they can create offensive weapons, but no defensive, paradox!
  33. 0
    14 September 2015 15: 31
    It’s important for us to support the Transatlantic Alliance.

    And if Square does not support the Transatlantic Union, then end the alliance?

    From modesty, the leader of the junta will not die.

    Russia was lucky that in the Ukrainian army “corruption still exists”, and also it (the army) is “infiltrated by Russian agents”.

    But imagine for a moment (strain your imagination to the maximum) that there is no corruption in the Ukrainian army, will such an army exist?

    Therefore, Waltzman provides a "place for corruption", because without Madame Corruption (in Russian - theft), the Ukrainian army will immediately disintegrate.
  34. +1
    14 September 2015 15: 48
    It looks like a deep hangover - weapons are not deadly!
    What kind of weapon are these - firecrackers and flappers for flies, so is there a petunia ?!
    And with what recession did the petunia decide that dill is an industrialized country?
    It was once, but obviously not today!
  35. 0
    14 September 2015 15: 48
    Yes, give it to this indefatigable in his desires to fill a pocket on any supplies with a worried state husband.
    Just wondering what, after that, will he beg for? What will drive the received - it is clear, but what will be next?
  36. +1
    14 September 2015 16: 23
    Well, if he asks, you need to send him a gun with one bullet.
  37. 0
    14 September 2015 17: 41
    Do not have illusions. As long as the Russian Federation exists, Ukrainians will not collect debts from the Russians, and they will supply weapons (Soviet) as needed, as long as the regime exists.
  38. +3
    14 September 2015 17: 45
    Petya has his own wall with icons)
  39. 0
    14 September 2015 20: 32
    Petya is insulting, they forgot everything about UKRAINE in connection with the flow of refugees in Europe, and as they say if you are not at the hearing, it means you don’t exist ....
  40. 0
    14 September 2015 23: 00
    secondly, everything that we give you will be in Russia

    I remembered Marshak's poem "bottomless vat"

    Wishing to save the Kuomintang,
    Merchant bankers
    Threw money at the old vat -
    Bottomless Chiang Kai-shek.

    But all that the Yankees gave
    Guns and tanks,
    And cans of milk
    Tobacco, cars, -
    Intercepted in battles
    People’s troops.

    Now bottomless tub
    Nailed to the island of Taiwan,
    And there are her remains
    The Yankees gathered to repair.

    But Uncle Sam, you are your pocket
    Desolate to the bottom
    And you won’t save a leaky vat,
    Bottomless Chiang Kai-shek.

    No matter how hard you try, anyway
    There will be no bottom at the vat.
    Maybe he will see the bottom
    But only - the ocean!
  41. 0
    15 September 2015 04: 59
    Chocolate Ghoul - new UKRALinskaya tale ...
  42. 0
    15 September 2015 08: 07
    Quote: vodolaz
    As you do not listen to ukroraviteli all owe them. And when the rest of the world managed to Ukraine then owe it?

    And when he supported the coup in Ukraine in February 2014. (just not the WHOLE world, of course)
  43. 0
    16 September 2015 11: 25
    Quote: SS68SS
    It's a shame for the Ukrainians. It seems not stupid people, but they are carried on tales of such parasites and a rabbit ...

    Each people deserves those rulers whom they themselves have chosen, so that let them pity themselves.