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Russian Donetsk is fenced off from Ukraine by a two-meter fence

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The Border Department of the Federal Security Service of the Russian Federation placed an order for the construction of a two-meter-long fence more than 3 kilometers in the area of ​​the Russian city of Donetsk on the public procurement website, reports "Reedus".




The ministry noted that "construction will be carried out to prevent illegal activities at the state border."

According to the contract, the facility should be constructed of 2 welded sections on 2.5 meters with V-shaped tips and reinforced barbed tape. The total cost of construction - 9.9 million rubles.

In the spring of 2015, there were reports that in the Rostov region about 140 kilometers of various engineering structures were built: more than 40 kilometers of fences and 100 kilometers of moats. It was noted that the increase in the number of cases of smuggling of ammunition and weaponsas well as illegal border crossing by Ukrainian cars.

In addition, at the beginning of the year, a tender was held for the construction of anti-tank ditches on the Bryansk sector of the Russian-Ukrainian border. At the same time, border guards stressed that their creation was planned as early as 2012, and is not related to the exacerbation of the situation on the territory of Ukraine.
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  1. Kosta153
    Kosta153 4 September 2015 06: 07 New
    +8
    They survived. And what to do, I heard that the "neighbors" like refugees to Europe are already crowding in droves.
    1. svp67
      svp67 4 September 2015 06: 28 New
      +25
      Quote: Kosta153
      They survived. And what to do, I heard that the "neighbors" like refugees to Europe are already crowding in droves.

      People all right. Weapons and explosives flow from this region, so you don't want to, but you need to streamline your movement.
      1. Vega
        Vega 4 September 2015 10: 12 New
        +5
        Weapons, explosives is the tip of the iceberg. More dangerous is the formation of drug trafficking and, accordingly, the traffic of migrants from Asia, Africa and Europe. Look at how many addicts around, especially the spice addicts.
      2. Kilo-11
        Kilo-11 4 September 2015 13: 40 New
        +1
        It’s interesting, what did the border guards not try to “... streamline the movement ...” when, starting from the 90s, there was a stream of smuggling of various goods from Russia to Ukraine and in the opposite direction, by the way, the smuggling of weapons and drugs was always present at this border. The answer, it seems to me, is corruption on the surface, not a dozen border guards began to become ruble millionaires through bribes, and in the region of the city of Donetsk, which is in the Rostov region, especially. By building fences and ditches, the border authorities didn’t he will succeed until corruption is defeated in his ranks. And in relation to ordinary people-residents of the LPR, it’s embarrassing, essentially fenced off from his own people. It’s easier to build fences and ditches than putting order in the ranks of officials both your own and in the LPR, and the work of the border authorities it’s necessary to show, but the carriage will still be there now — as smuggled were smuggled and will be smuggled, too big people are interested and involved in this illegal traffic.
    2. Starover_Z
      Starover_Z 4 September 2015 06: 57 New
      +7
      In the spring of 2015, reports appeared that in the Rostov Region about 140 kilometers of various engineering structures were built: more than 40 kilometers of fences and 100 kilometers of ditches. It was noted that the reason for the intensification of work was the increasing incidence of smuggling of ammunition and weapons, as well as illegal border crossing by Ukrainian cars.

      Hmm, they survived ... The West managed to quarrel us well!
      1. shans2
        shans2 4 September 2015 09: 26 New
        +5
        Not in Russia screaming m.o.s.k.alei on knives and gilyak, back in 13 ...
    3. venzim
      venzim 4 September 2015 07: 04 New
      +5
      Quote: Kosta153
      They survived. And what to do, I heard that the "neighbors" like refugees to Europe are already crowding in droves.

      Where Americans rule, there are refugees and war. Not surprising. Democracy ponimash
    4. atalef
      atalef 4 September 2015 07: 22 New
      +4
      It was noted that the reason for the intensification of work was the frequent cases of smuggling of ammunition and weapons, as well as illegal border crossing by Ukrainian cars

      I don’t understand something, but does Donetsk border Ukraine? It seems to me with Novorossia
      Then why not write the truth, the smuggling of weapons and ammunition, as well as the lawful crossing of the border with cars - New Russia
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 4 September 2015 07: 43 New
        0
        Quote: atalef
        Then why not write the truth

        And why Sanya, we’ll write it ourselves here. We will supplement the press release from the FSB, so to speak wassat Healthy drinks
        1. atalef
          atalef 4 September 2015 13: 39 New
          +2
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Quote: atalef
          Then why not write the truth

          And why Sanya, we’ll write it ourselves here. We will supplement the press release from the FSB, so to speak wassat Healthy drinks

          Hi !!!
          Atalef is back and that’s good (although it’s not possible for everyone) wink
      2. Dazdranagon
        Dazdranagon 4 September 2015 08: 21 New
        +2
        Quote: atalef
        Then why not write the truth, the smuggling of weapons and ammunition, as well as the lawful crossing of the border with cars - New Russia
        - apparently only your nation "without freaks in the family"! And we, Russians, like these, come across among us and are not clear of conscience! Yes, and the Ukraine-Novorossia border as such is not! hi
        1. atalef
          atalef 4 September 2015 13: 40 New
          0
          Quote: Dazdranagon
          apparently only your nation "without freaks in the family"

          There are enough freaks for everyone

          Quote: Dazdranagon
          ! Yes, and the Ukraine-Novorossia border as such is not!

          So do you think weapons are coming from Ukraine?
          1. Dazdranagon
            Dazdranagon 7 September 2015 11: 59 New
            0
            Quote: atalef
            So do you think weapons are coming from Ukraine?
            - I do not exclude it! hi
      3. andj61
        andj61 4 September 2015 08: 36 New
        +6
        Quote: atalef
        I don’t understand something, but does Donetsk border Ukraine? It seems to me with Novorossia

        Hello Alexander!. Glad to be here again in his former incarnation. drinks
        It is also encouraging that even the Israeli comrades have already recognized New Russia (although only LDNR officially exists) and its borders. Unfortunately, Russia still considers this territory to be Ukraine - officially, naturally! crying
        1. atalef
          atalef 4 September 2015 13: 45 New
          +2
          Quote: andj61
          Hello Alexander!. Glad to be here again in his former incarnation.

          Mutually, Andrey hi drinks

          Quote: andj61
          It is also encouraging that even the Israeli comrades have already recognized Novorossia (although only LDNR officially exist) and its borders

          This is to understand the post, you understand - first let Russia recognize, and I

          always for those who win
          wink
      4. Vadim237
        Vadim237 4 September 2015 10: 01 New
        0
        And Donetsk is perhaps not a Russian city located on the border with Ukraine.
    5. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 4 September 2015 07: 41 New
      0
      Quote: Kosta153
      They survived. And what to do, I heard that the "neighbors" like refugees to Europe are already crowding in droves.

      It’s not a matter of refugees, but of the fact that now it’s more difficult to buy weapons there from a bottle of vodka from us. Does this all come to us, but do we need it?
      1. marlin1203
        marlin1203 4 September 2015 08: 10 New
        0
        So, "for the prevention" of anti-tank ditches at the border laughing
      2. atalef
        atalef 4 September 2015 13: 52 New
        +2
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Quote: Kosta153
        They survived. And what to do, I heard that the "neighbors" like refugees to Europe are already crowding in droves.

        It’s not a matter of refugees, but of the fact that now it’s more difficult to buy weapons there from a bottle of vodka from us. Does this all come to us, but do we need it?

        5 hi boxes of carcasses
  2. mahnabar
    mahnabar 4 September 2015 06: 07 New
    -3
    Well, okay ... at the end of construction, apply voltage to the wire !!! let the ukroperisty jump
    1. Moore
      Moore 4 September 2015 06: 42 New
      +7
      Is it you for the sake of a harsh phrase - about tension?
      Technically, you can imagine what it is, what kind of money, capacities and "fool" protection systems it is?
      In the Strategic Missile Forces in the entire history of the existence on the P-100 grid, not a single saboteur has died, and a couple of regiments of fighters and mushroom pickers - yes.
      1. Yarik
        Yarik 4 September 2015 06: 56 New
        0
        Good afternoon. And you can read more about the P-100, very interesting.
        1. Moore
          Moore 4 September 2015 08: 12 New
          +4
          Well, in short, the P-100 electrified fence is one of the elements of the TCO of the Strategic Missile Forces. The amazing effect is based on the general principles of the damaging effect of electricity on the body.
          A little bit about it. Well, at least here: http://taek.livejournal.com/25391.html alternatively gifted fighters have always tried to overcome the grid in various ways - when from natural dullness, when from it plus confidence that it is disconnected.
          The photographs of the blackened, unsuccessful colleagues with their faces muzzled by this very grid convince, but not for all, for a short while.
          This grid is enclosed on both sides by warning fences with warning signs, an internal announcement is being made to apply voltage to it, a luminous sign is placed at the entrance to the object. Someone is stopping, someone is not. The second is vanishingly small, but sooner or later they appear ...
          1. Yarik
            Yarik 4 September 2015 08: 52 New
            +1
            Thank you, very informative. yes
          2. Yarik
            Yarik 4 September 2015 08: 52 New
            0
            Thank you, very informative. yes
          3. FIREMAN
            FIREMAN 4 September 2015 10: 23 New
            +2
            The first mention of the combat use of EZ dates back to the defense of Port Arthur fortress during the Russo-Japanese war of the beginning of the century. For example, during the fourth assault on the night of November 26, 1904, the Japanese lost 780 soldiers killed, 150 of them burned on an electric fence. This EZ included:
            the linear part of the EZ in the form of uninsulated copper wire, mounted on wooden poles of various heights through porcelain insulators;
            an energy source, which was a central power station located in the rear and having a 3000 V generator;
            a transformer for powering each of the four sections of the linear part. This transformer was installed near the power plant and transmitted voltage to other transformers located near the linear part. They increased this voltage to 3000 V and fed their sections. Such an installation made it possible not to use high-voltage cables to power the linear part.
            During the First World War, EZs of a similar device were used, as during the Russo-Japanese War. In addition, special types of barriers were developed - the Volcano network, the low located Spotkach. Attempts were made to electrify land strips and emissions of electrified cables with grenade launchers and mortars. http://www.gsm-guard.net/press3_5.html


            About the "Grid" in more detail: https://reibert.info/threads/setka-100.161095/. Better signaling equipment 1K18 'Realiya-U', 1K124 'Tabun', 1K119 'Realiya-1/10'.
  3. Barakuda
    Barakuda 4 September 2015 06: 08 New
    +11
    We adopt the experience of Israel? Or how request And neighing about tamed ..
    Although the border should really be locked, is that the way?
    1. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 4 September 2015 06: 13 New
      +7
      Quote: Barracuda
      Although the border should really be locked, is that the way?

      but as? Karatsupu with a dog, put on every meter? what
      1. Barakuda
        Barakuda 4 September 2015 06: 16 New
        -7
        Shoigu has a skull and a team, let them think. Still with Tajikistan, etc. rave..
        1. inkass_98
          inkass_98 4 September 2015 06: 36 New
          +1
          Quote: Barracuda
          let them think.

          I can offer a non-original, but effective way - border mining. This was done during the mess in the Abkhazian direction. Mining, as I understand it, was either by cars, or by helicopters, but the cows were blown up there long after the situation returned to normal. You can’t explain to her (the cow) that on the other side the grass is already alien, not kosher laughing and you won’t put up a fence along the riverbed, it will wash off nafig - mountains, you know, and the rivers are the same.
          The fence will be safer in every way, and it’s easier to remove it than to clear the territory, unless the Gorynych’s Snake is activated.
          1. Kilo-11
            Kilo-11 4 September 2015 13: 16 New
            0
            They mined not only on the border with Abkhazia, since 2000 they began to mine the border with Georgia in the Chechen and Ingush sections, although these minefields did not prevent the militants from periodically breaking through from Georgia to Chechnya and Ingushetia.
      2. Vladimirets
        Vladimirets 4 September 2015 06: 30 New
        +1
        Quote: Andrew Y.
        Karatsupu with a dog, put on every meter?

        Minefields. repeat
        1. Andrey Yuryevich
          Andrey Yuryevich 4 September 2015 06: 43 New
          +2
          Quote: Vladimirets
          Quote: Andrew Y.
          Karatsupu with a dog, put on every meter?

          Minefields. repeat

          from refugees? oil painting ...
          1. Vladimirets
            Vladimirets 4 September 2015 06: 52 New
            0
            Quote: Andrew Y.
            from refugees? oil painting ...

            Attention, a joke. wink
    2. SPACE59
      SPACE59 4 September 2015 07: 18 New
      +2
      Quote: Barracuda
      We adopt the experience of Israel? Or how request And neighing about tamed ..
      Although the border should really be locked, is that the way?

      For residents of LDNR, the construction of a fence on our part will cause a fair resentment against us. I really do not want to build such a fence, but it is necessary to stop the smuggling of weapons.
    3. maxxdesign
      maxxdesign 4 September 2015 07: 25 New
      0
      there is one more ... set sentries every 20 meters along the border! only where so many people to get? will you go to guard?
  4. sagitch
    sagitch 4 September 2015 06: 15 New
    +2
    Looking forward to African-African refugees?
    Ukrainians now gloat, especially for anti-tank ditches!
  5. SAM 5
    SAM 5 4 September 2015 06: 17 New
    +2
    Soon all of Europe will be in the fences. Times are coming. sad
    1. inkass_98
      inkass_98 4 September 2015 06: 40 New
      +4
      Quote: SAM 5
      Times are coming.

      Forward to our bright future - feudalism laughing .
      Quote: Barracuda
      We adopt the experience of Israel?

      In Israel, by the way, reinforced concrete fences, and even with a height of around 4 meters, if not more.
      1. shans2
        shans2 4 September 2015 09: 33 New
        +1
        this is protection against zombies, wassat
  6. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 4 September 2015 06: 23 New
    +3
    If a decision is made, then the operational situation at the border contributed to this. I hope that ours, unlike the Ukrainians, know what they are doing.
  7. Voha_krim
    Voha_krim 4 September 2015 06: 24 New
    +2
    construction of a two-meter fence more than 3 kilometers long

    What's the point? You can go around on foot request They laughed at ukrozabor, and now we laugh at ourselves? request
    1. maxxdesign
      maxxdesign 4 September 2015 07: 28 New
      0
      But what if at both ends of the fence are roadblocks? then dig ... right up to Kiev! ... or jump from the catapult! )))
  8. dsi
    dsi 4 September 2015 06: 27 New
    +2
    that about 140 kilometers of various engineering structures were built in the Rostov Region: more than 40 kilometers of fences and 100 kilometers of ditches.

    The Russian border should have appropriate fortifications. Briefly, we return ours!
  9. Decathlon
    Decathlon 4 September 2015 06: 27 New
    +2
    Rushed "war of fences" ?! Maybe minefields ?! recourse
  10. Mikhail m
    Mikhail m 4 September 2015 06: 44 New
    +6
    Farming is a dangerous disease transmitted through paper. It mainly affects officials with access to cutting money.
  11. Barakuda
    Barakuda 4 September 2015 06: 46 New
    +1
    Minefields are understandable. Well, if the kid will wander there? I myself ran anywhere. Well, my father wrote a couple of times in front-yellow, the imprint buckle with a star on her ass remained .. And who will rake them later? I hope Russia will not fall to the level of North Korea.
    1. Decathlon
      Decathlon 4 September 2015 07: 01 New
      +1
      Well, what if the "dark boy" rushes? We can’t hold the fences ...
    2. shans2
      shans2 4 September 2015 09: 36 New
      0
      North Korea can only leave Ukraine.
  12. aleks700
    aleks700 4 September 2015 06: 46 New
    +2
    Russian Donetsk. Is this the border with the DNI?
  13. moskowit
    moskowit 4 September 2015 06: 50 New
    +2
    Well, the full range of measures and means to protect the border suggests itself? KSP, secrets, outfits, Stationary firing points, in the most passable places, nomadic, mobile, searchlight installations and a solid thorn and many other engineering and fortification barriers and structures. Do not really really come to this ???
  14. MSL
    MSL 4 September 2015 06: 59 New
    +1
    Quote: moskowit
    Well, the full range of measures and means to protect the border suggests itself? Do not really really come to this ???

    Maybe, but the information is disturbing. Especially "In addition, at the beginning of the year, a tender was held for the construction of anti-tank ditches on the Bryansk section of the Russian-Ukrainian border."
    Very stuffing resembles.
  15. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 4 September 2015 07: 05 New
    +8
    The border must be politely moved west, the best option! bully
  16. sv68
    sv68 4 September 2015 07: 11 New
    0
    Honestly, a very stupid solution to the problem! power takes an example from non-ruthless quasi-states, and it turned out to be contagious.
    1. maxxdesign
      maxxdesign 4 September 2015 07: 29 New
      +1
      We are pleased to hear your smart decision to close such gaps where smuggling trails paves!
  17. 511
    511 4 September 2015 07: 22 New
    +2
    What foolishness these fences were when they detained someone. It’s cheap and angry ... to give the order to the border guards ... to open fire at the border crossing. I understand how many people will die, but in the end they will know and are afraid to cross the border illegally.
    1. emercom1979
      emercom1979 4 September 2015 08: 04 New
      0
      It’s good to shoot, of course, but if a competent obstacle course, with a full range of activities (KSP, etc., etc.) plus the service of outfits is not for uncleaning, everything will be effective.
  18. Masya masya
    Masya masya 4 September 2015 07: 36 New
    +4
    Interestingly, and then Yatsenyuk report that he built a wall?
  19. emercom1979
    emercom1979 4 September 2015 08: 00 New
    +2
    Normal topic. Movement control is needed. The main thing is not to go too far. It is not tightly fenced off as if there were enemies, but simply our territory is illegally forbidden to us. Or is there a problem crossing the border in a legal way, through a checkpoint?
  20. Nyrobsky
    Nyrobsky 4 September 2015 09: 49 New
    0
    Quote: moskowit
    Well, the full range of measures and means to protect the border suggests itself? KSP, secrets, outfits, Stationary firing points, in the most passable places, nomadic, mobile, searchlight installations and a solid thorn and many other engineering and fortification barriers and structures. Do not really really come to this ???


    So what to do? Situevina in the world does not have the fact that you can safely watch a bumblebee flying.
    Five years ago, Syria was the Mecca of tourism, four years ago Libya was one of the most prosperous countries in its region, two years ago nobody could conceive of tens of thousands of killed ...
    Who can say what will happen in five years?
    After a couple of years, migrants can sway Europe so much that Europeans will already begin to search for the fifth corner and break into the “aggressor” country through Ukraine.
    So it’s necessary, as in a saying, to prepare a sled in the summer, i.e. build everything as you said
    1. Buffalo
      Buffalo 4 September 2015 11: 12 New
      0
      -Gold words! This is very likely.
      But in Ukraine there is already a potbelly stove - a hit of sales, among the prudent ones. And in winter, the notorious quilted jacket will be a bestseller.
  21. giperion121
    giperion121 4 September 2015 11: 46 New
    +2
    and betrayal! What damn wall on the border with LDNR? Between the LC and the DNI, too, they made the border, here. Instead of recognizing LDNR and putting things in order there, as always, the worst one is chosen from all the options. As long as the oligarchs and liberals are at the helm, there will be nothing good.
  22. Crown
    Crown 4 September 2015 12: 50 New
    -1
    In a word, Russia pushes LDN
  23. Ze Kot
    Ze Kot 4 September 2015 14: 55 New
    0
    Quote: Kilo-11
    But what did the border guards not try to "... streamline the movement ..."


    So everyone received a share and everyone was happy with everything.
  24. warriordima
    warriordima 6 September 2015 03: 55 New
    0
    Yes, there they transport weapons through customs, I saw it myself))