Russian Donetsk is fenced off from Ukraine by a two-meter fence

The Border Department of the Federal Security Service of the Russian Federation placed an order for the construction of a two-meter-long fence more than 3 kilometers in the area of ​​the Russian city of Donetsk on the public procurement website, reports "Reedus".

The ministry noted that "construction will be carried out to prevent illegal activities at the state border."

According to the contract, the facility should be constructed of 2 welded sections on 2.5 meters with V-shaped tips and reinforced barbed tape. The total cost of construction - 9.9 million rubles.

In the spring of 2015, there were reports that in the Rostov region about 140 kilometers of various engineering structures were built: more than 40 kilometers of fences and 100 kilometers of moats. It was noted that the increase in the number of cases of smuggling of ammunition and weaponsas well as illegal border crossing by Ukrainian cars.

In addition, at the beginning of the year, a tender was held for the construction of anti-tank ditches on the Bryansk sector of the Russian-Ukrainian border. At the same time, border guards stressed that their creation was planned as early as 2012, and is not related to the exacerbation of the situation on the territory of Ukraine.

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[Kosta153]

Have lived. And what to do, I heard, "neighbors" are like refugees to Europe, already crowding crowds.

[svp67]

Quote: Kosta153

Have lived. And what to do, I heard, "neighbors" are like refugees to Europe, already crowding crowds.

People all right. Weapons and explosives flow from this region, so you don't want to, but you need to streamline your movement.

[Vega]

Weapons, explosives is the tip of the iceberg. More dangerous is the formation of drug trafficking and, accordingly, the traffic of migrants from Asia, Africa and Europe. Look at how many addicts around, especially the spice addicts.

[Kilo-11]

I wonder why the border guards did not try to "... streamline the movement ..." before, when, since the 90s, there was a flow of smuggling of various goods from the Russian Federation to Ukraine and in the opposite direction, by the way, the smuggling of weapons and drugs was always present at The answer, as it seems to me, is corruption on the surface, not a dozen border chiefs have become ruble millionaires through bribes, and in the area of ​​Donetsk, which is in the Rostov region, especially. Building fences and ditches, the border authorities do not have anything will achieve until he defeats corruption in his ranks. And in relation to ordinary people, residents of the LPR, we are ashamed, in fact, we fence ourselves off from our own. Building fences and ditches is easier than putting things in order in the ranks of officials, both our own and in the LPR, and the work of border authorities it is necessary to show, but the cart will still be there, as they smuggled the contraband and will continue to do it, too big people are interested and are involved in this illegal traffic.

[Starover_Z]

In the spring of 2015, reports appeared that in the Rostov Region about 140 kilometers of various engineering structures were built: more than 40 kilometers of fences and 100 kilometers of ditches. It was noted that the reason for the intensification of work was the increasing incidence of smuggling of ammunition and weapons, as well as illegal border crossing by Ukrainian cars.

Hmm, they survived ... The West managed to quarrel us well!

[shans2]

Not in Russia screaming m.o.s.k.alei on knives and gilyak, back in 13 ...

[venzim]

Quote: Kosta153

Have lived. And what to do, I heard, "neighbors" are like refugees to Europe, already crowding crowds.

Where Americans rule, there are refugees and war. Not surprising. Democracy ponimash

[atalef]

It was noted that the reason for the intensification of work was the frequent cases of smuggling of ammunition and weapons, as well as illegal border crossing by Ukrainian cars

I don’t understand something, but does Donetsk border Ukraine? It seems to me with Novorossia
Then why not write the truth, the smuggling of weapons and ammunition, as well as the lawful crossing of the border with cars - New Russia

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: atalef

Then why not write the truth

And why Sanya, we’ll write it ourselves here. We will supplement the press release from the FSB, so to speak Healthy

[atalef]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

Quote: atalef

Then why not write the truth

And why Sanya, we’ll write it ourselves here. We will supplement the press release from the FSB, so to speak Healthy

Hi !!!
Atalef is back and that’s good (although it’s not possible for everyone)

[Dazdranagon]

Quote: atalef

Then why not write the truth, the smuggling of weapons and ammunition, as well as the lawful crossing of the border with cars - New Russia

- apparently only your nation "without freaks in the family"! And we, Russians, are like that, among us come across and not a clear conscience! And there is no border between Ukraine and Novorossiya as such!

[atalef]

Quote: Dazdranagon

apparently only your nation is "without freaks in the family"

There are enough freaks for everyone

Quote: Dazdranagon

! Yes, and the Ukraine-Novorossia border as such is not!

So do you think weapons are coming from Ukraine?

[Dazdranagon]

Quote: atalef

So do you think weapons are coming from Ukraine?

- I do not exclude it!

[andj61]

Quote: atalef

I don’t understand something, but does Donetsk border Ukraine? It seems to me with Novorossia

Hello Alexander!. Glad to be here again in his former incarnation.
It is also encouraging that even the Israeli comrades have already recognized New Russia (although only LDNR officially exists) and its borders. Unfortunately, Russia still considers this territory to be Ukraine - officially, naturally!

[atalef]

Quote: andj61

Hello Alexander!. Glad to be here again in his former incarnation.

Mutually, Andrey

Quote: andj61

It is also encouraging that even the Israeli comrades have already recognized Novorossia (although only LDNR officially exist) and its borders

This is to understand the post, you understand - first let Russia recognize, and I

always for those who win

[Vadim237]

And Donetsk is perhaps not a Russian city located on the border with Ukraine.

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: Kosta153

Have lived. And what to do, I heard, "neighbors" are like refugees to Europe, already crowding crowds.

It’s not a matter of refugees, but of the fact that now it’s more difficult to buy weapons there from a bottle of vodka from us. Does this all come to us, but do we need it?

[marlin1203]

So, "for the prevention" of anti-tank ditches on the border dug

[atalef]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

Quote: Kosta153

Have lived. And what to do, I heard, "neighbors" are like refugees to Europe, already crowding crowds.

It’s not a matter of refugees, but of the fact that now it’s more difficult to buy weapons there from a bottle of vodka from us. Does this all come to us, but do we need it?

5 boxes of carcasses

[mahnabar]

Well, okay ... at the end of construction, apply voltage to the wire !!! let the ukroperisty jump

[Moore]

Is it you for the sake of a harsh phrase - about tension?
Technically, can you imagine what it is, what kind of money, power and protection systems "from the fool" are?
In the Strategic Missile Forces in the entire history of the existence on the P-100 grid, not a single saboteur has died, and a couple of regiments of fighters and mushroom pickers - yes.

[Yarik]

Good afternoon. And you can read more about the P-100, very interesting.

[Moore]

Well, in short, the P-100 electrified fence is one of the elements of the TCO of the Strategic Missile Forces. The amazing effect is based on the general principles of the damaging effect of electricity on the body.
A little bit about it. Well, at least here: http://taek.livejournal.com/25391.html alternatively gifted fighters have always tried to overcome the grid in various ways - when from natural dullness, when from it plus confidence that it is disconnected.
The photographs of the blackened, unsuccessful colleagues with their faces muzzled by this very grid convince, but not for all, for a short while.
This grid is enclosed on both sides by warning fences with warning signs, an internal announcement is being made to apply voltage to it, a luminous sign is placed at the entrance to the object. Someone is stopping, someone is not. The second is vanishingly small, but sooner or later they appear ...

[Yarik]

Thank you, very informative.

[Yarik]

Thank you, very informative.

[FIREMAN]

The first mention of the combat use of EZ dates back to the defense of Port Arthur fortress during the Russo-Japanese war of the beginning of the century. For example, during the fourth assault on the night of November 26, 1904, the Japanese lost 780 soldiers killed, 150 of them burned on an electric fence. This EZ included:
the linear part of the EZ in the form of uninsulated copper wire, mounted on wooden poles of various heights through porcelain insulators;
an energy source, which was a central power station located in the rear and having a 3000 V generator;
a transformer for powering each of the four sections of the linear part. This transformer was installed near the power plant and transmitted voltage to other transformers located near the linear part. They increased this voltage to 3000 V and fed their sections. Such an installation made it possible not to use high-voltage cables to power the linear part.
During the First World War, EZs of a similar device were used as during the Russo-Japanese War. In addition, special types of barriers were developed - the Volcano net, the low-lying Spotykach. Attempts were made to electrify strips of land and emit electrified cables using grenade launchers and mortars. http://www.gsm-guard.net/press3_5.html

More details about the "Grid": https://reibert.info/threads/setka-100.161095/. Signaling equipment 1K18 'Realia-U', 1K124 'Tabun', 1K119 'Realia-1/10' is better.

[Barakuda]

We adopt the experience of Israel? Or how And neighing about tamed ..
Although the border should really be locked, is that the way?

[Andrey Yuryevich]

Quote: Barracuda

Although the border should really be locked, is that the way?

but as? Karatsupu with a dog, put on every meter?

[Barakuda]

Shoigu has a skull and a team, let them think. Still with Tajikistan, etc. rave..

[inkass_98]

Quote: Barracuda

let them think.

I can offer a non-original, but effective way - border mining. This was done during the mess in the Abkhazian direction. Mining, as I understand it, was either by cars, or by helicopters, but the cows were blown up there long after the situation returned to normal. You can’t explain to her (the cow) that on the other side the grass is already alien, not kosher and you won’t put up a fence along the riverbed, it will wash off nafig - mountains, you know, and the rivers are the same.
The fence will be differently safer, and it is easier to remove it than to clear the territory from mines, unless the "Gorynych Serpent" is used.

[Kilo-11]

They mined not only on the border with Abkhazia, since 2000 they began to mine the border with Georgia in the Chechen and Ingush sections, although these minefields did not prevent the militants from periodically breaking through from Georgia to Chechnya and Ingushetia.

[Vladimirets]

Quote: Andrey Yurievich

Karatsupu with a dog, put on every meter?

Minefields.

[Andrey Yuryevich]

Quote: Vladimirets

Quote: Andrey Yurievich

Karatsupu with a dog, put on every meter?

Minefields.

from refugees? oil painting ...

[Vladimirets]

Quote: Andrey Yurievich

from refugees? oil painting ...

Attention, a joke.

[SPACE59]

Quote: Barracuda

We adopt the experience of Israel? Or how And neighing about tamed ..
Although the border should really be locked, is that the way?

For residents of LDNR, the construction of a fence on our part will cause a fair resentment against us. I really do not want to build such a fence, but it is necessary to stop the smuggling of weapons.

[maxxdesign]

there is one more ... set sentries every 20 meters along the border! only where so many people to get? will you go to guard?

[sagitch]

Looking forward to African-African refugees?
Ukrainians now gloat, especially for anti-tank ditches!

[SAM 5]

Soon all of Europe will be in the fences. Times are coming.

[inkass_98]

Quote: SAM 5

Times are coming.

Forward to our bright future - feudalism .

Quote: Barracuda

We adopt the experience of Israel?

In Israel, by the way, reinforced concrete fences, and even with a height of around 4 meters, if not more.

[shans2]

this is protection against zombies,

[rotmistr60]

If a decision is made, then the operational situation at the border contributed to this. I hope that ours, unlike the Ukrainians, know what they are doing.

[Voha_krim]

construction of a two-meter fence more than 3 kilometers long

What's the point? You can go around on foot They laughed at ukrozabor, and now we laugh at ourselves?

[maxxdesign]

But what if at both ends of the fence are roadblocks? then dig ... right up to Kiev! ... or jump from the catapult! )))

[dsi]

that about 140 kilometers of various engineering structures were built in the Rostov Region: more than 40 kilometers of fences and 100 kilometers of ditches.

The Russian border should have appropriate fortifications. Briefly, we return ours!

[Decathlon]

The "war of fences" started ?! Maybe minefields ?!

[Mikhail m]

Farming is a dangerous disease transmitted through paper. It mainly affects officials with access to cutting money.

[Barakuda]

Minefields are understandable. Well, if the kid will wander there? I myself ran anywhere. Well, my father wrote a couple of times in front-yellow, the imprint buckle with a star on her ass remained .. And who will rake them later? I hope Russia will not fall to the level of North Korea.

[Decathlon]

Well, what if the "dark-skinned kid" rushes? We won't hold it with fences ...

[shans2]

North Korea can only leave Ukraine.

[aleks700]

Russian Donetsk. Is this the border with the DNI?

[moskowit]

Well, the full range of measures and means to protect the border suggests itself? KSP, secrets, outfits, Stationary firing points, in the most passable places, nomadic, mobile, searchlight installations and a solid thorn and many other engineering and fortification barriers and structures. Do not really really come to this ???

[MSL]

Quote: moskowit

Well, the full range of measures and means to protect the border suggests itself? Do not really really come to this ???

Maybe, but the information is disturbing. Especially "In addition, at the beginning of the year, a tender was held for the construction of anti-tank ditches on the Bryansk section of the Russian-Ukrainian border."
Very stuffing resembles.

[Vitaly Anisimov]

The border must be politely moved west, the best option!

[sv68]

Honestly, a very stupid solution to the problem! power takes an example from non-ruthless quasi-states, and it turned out to be contagious.

[maxxdesign]

We are pleased to hear your smart decision to close such gaps where smuggling trails paves!

[511]

What foolishness these fences were when they detained someone. It’s cheap and angry ... to give the order to the border guards ... to open fire at the border crossing. I understand how many people will die, but in the end they will know and are afraid to cross the border illegally.

[emercom1979]

It’s good to shoot, of course, but if a competent obstacle course, with a full range of activities (KSP, etc., etc.) plus the service of outfits is not for uncleaning, everything will be effective.

[Masya masya]

Interestingly, and then Yatsenyuk report that he built a wall?

[emercom1979]

Normal topic. Movement control is needed. The main thing is not to go too far. It is not tightly fenced off as if there were enemies, but simply our territory is illegally forbidden to us. Or is there a problem crossing the border in a legal way, through a checkpoint?

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: moskowit

Well, the full range of measures and means to protect the border suggests itself? KSP, secrets, outfits, Stationary firing points, in the most passable places, nomadic, mobile, searchlight installations and a solid thorn and many other engineering and fortification barriers and structures. Do not really really come to this ???

So what to do? Situevina in the world does not have the fact that you can safely watch a bumblebee flying.
Five years ago, Syria was the Mecca of tourism, four years ago Libya was one of the most prosperous countries in its region, two years ago nobody could conceive of tens of thousands of killed ...
Who can say what will happen in five years?
In a couple of years, migrants can rock Europe so that the Europeans will already start looking for the fifth corner and break through Ukraine into the "aggressor" country.
So it’s necessary, as in a saying, to prepare a sled in the summer, i.e. build everything as you said

[Buffalo]

-Gold words! This is very likely.
But in Ukraine there is already a potbelly stove - a hit of sales, among the prudent ones. And in winter, the notorious quilted jacket will be a bestseller.

[hyperion121]

and betrayal! What damn wall on the border with LDNR? Between the LC and the DNI, too, they made the border, here. Instead of recognizing LDNR and putting things in order there, as always, the worst one is chosen from all the options. As long as the oligarchs and liberals are at the helm, there will be nothing good.

[Crown]

In a word, Russia pushes LDN

[Ze Kot]

Quote: Kilo-11

but why did the border guards not try to "... streamline the movement ..."

So everyone received a share and everyone was happy with everything.

[warriordima]

Yes, there they transport weapons through customs, I saw it myself))