ZRK C-400 are being transferred under Astrakhan to conduct exercises

Personnel and military equipment, including the C-400 air defense system, arrive at the Ashuluk training ground in the Astrakhan region to take part in the exercises of the CIS joint air defense system “Combat Commonwealth-2015”, reports RIA News message of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation.

“The first train with the Triumph C-400 anti-aircraft missile systems, special engineering equipment, and material and technical means for deploying a field camp to accommodate personnel went to the Ashuluk training ground,” the release said.

Then, C-300 complexes, another C-400 batch, air defense units of the HVS, as well as helicopters, airplanes and other equipment will be sent to the southern region of the country.

According to the press service, "the exercises of the joint air defense system of the CIS will be held in three stages and will last until September 11."

“A practical episode of the management of the coalition group will be held as a separate episode of the exercises at the Sary-Shagan training ground (Republic of Kazakhstan) aviation and air defense forces in the preparation and during the hostilities in the Central Asian region of collective security to repulse a massive missile and air strike with live firing of anti-aircraft missile systems S-300, S-200, S-125, S-75, military air defense systems "Circle", "Cube" and the use of operational tactical aircraft MiG-27, MiG-29, MiG-31, Su-27 of the Armed Forces of the Republic of Kazakhstan, ”the military department said.

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[rotmistr60]

Teachings are already becoming commonplace, which is good. The army is doing what it should be.

[SRC P-15]

“The first train with the Triumph C-400 anti-aircraft missile systems, special engineering equipment, and material and technical means for deploying a field camp to accommodate personnel went to the Ashuluk training ground,” the release said.

I had to visit the Ashuluk training ground in 1974. I still will not forget the taste of the local chlorinated water and the creaking of sand on my teeth while eating. In the afternoon at my station, the temperature went over 50 degrees. Complex S-125.

[vodolaz]

Quote: rotmistr60

Teachings are already becoming commonplace, which is good. The army is doing what it should be.

I agree. I remember my teachings, which took place in the training in 2000: they raised us "on alarm" (everyone knew about it in advance), we took our junk and walked to the hangars, like starting equipment that, in principle, would not start. We sat until lunchtime and stomped back to the barracks. In the part, our encoder told about the staff exercises, which were carried out on paper: they sent all the encryptions from the center to him, and he dragged them to the unit commander.

[Bongo]

“A separate episode of the exercise at the Sary-Shagan training ground (Republic of Kazakhstan) will be used to practice the management of the coalition grouping of aviation and air defense forces during the preparation and during military operations in the Central Asian region of collective security to repel a massive firing anti-aircraft missile systems S-300, C-200C-125, C-75, military air defense complexes "A circle", "Cube"... - told in the military department.

Apparently in the "military department" there are "storytellers", or people who do not understand what they are talking about The S-75 air defense system and the army mobile air defense systems "Krug" and "Kub" have practically been removed from the armament of the air defense units of the CIS countries. The S-200 long-range air defense system remained in single copies and will be decommissioned in the near future.

[gispanec]

Quote: Bongo

SAM S-75 and army mobile SAM "Circle" and "Cube"

thank you ... neighing .... but naturally bows and wrote ... well, darts .... this is a rarity in the air defense forces

[Bongo]

Quote: gispanec

thank you ... neighing .... but naturally bows and wrote ... well, darts .... this is a rarity in the air defense forces

We got tired of such "news" The VO administration can not hire a normal editor, although not much versed in military affairs?

[Thunderbolt]

But a certain amount of the "Cube" air defense system is in storage even in the Russian army. And if the Kazakhs have a certain number in units, I would not be surprised.

[Bongo]

Quote: Thunderbolt

But a certain number of "Cube" air defense systems are in storage even in the Russian army

Most likely there is no longer even "in storage" The first Buks have already exhausted their resource, which already speaks about the Cube, the production of which was discontinued in 1983.

Quote: Thunderbolt

. And if the Kazakhs have some number in parts, then I won’t be surprised.

I had doubts and specially looked into K.V. Chuprin. As of 2008, in Kazakhstan, a certain number of "Cubes" were "in storage". Now most likely they are all disposed of. At least officially, only Strela-10 is in service with the army air defense units.

[Vladimirets]

Quote: Bongo

Apparently in the "military department" there are "storytellers", or people who do not understand what they are talking about

"told in the military department." In the "military department" and Aunt Glasha can tell you something.

[roskot]

Not a day without exercises. The usual job of maintaining alertness.

[Stiletto]

C400 should not be transferred to Astrakhan for exercises, but to Poland. They brought a couple of good targets F-22 from behind the puddle.

[Inok10]

Quote: Stiletto

C400 should not be transferred to Astrakhan for exercises, but to Poland. They brought a couple of good targets F-22 from behind the puddle.

.. thanks, but we have everything in Kaliningrad province for a long time .. with SAM 48N6E3 (250 km.) they can be hit right on takeoff to Lask ..

[Bongo]

Quote: Inok10

Thank you, but we have had everything in the Kaliningrad province for a long time .. with missiles 48Н6Е3 (250 km.) they can be hit right on takeoff to Lask ..

Do not flatter yourself, the Kaliningrad region and the Baltic Fleet base in Baltiysk are protected from air attack by one single C-400 regiment and a regiment armed with the rather old C-300PS. This is not enough for such a region. In addition, there is great doubt about the ability of the 48Н6Е3 missiles with a semi-active seeker to operate at a specified range on stealth 5 generation fighters.
In the picture, the S-400 air defense missile system is deployed at the former positions of the S-200 air defense system near Gvardeysk.

[PQ-18]

Do not flatter yourself, the Kaliningrad region and the Baltic Fleet base in Baltiysk are protected from air attack by one single C-400 regiment and a regiment armed with the rather old C-300PS. This is not enough for such a region. In addition, there is great doubt about the ability of the 48Н6Е3 missiles with a semi-active seeker to operate at a specified range on stealth 5 generation fighters.

Nevertheless, even SUCH Russian air defense-shnaya "insufficiency" is a deterrent ...
And the modernization of the air defense systems and the RTS in the USSR and Russia always occurs during the operation of these systems and facilities. During the operation, the deficiencies are more fully identified, because ...
At the design stage, EVERYTHING is impossible to consider!
DO NOT forget about the air defense of the ground forces in the Kaliningrad region ...
I believe that a solution to the effective firing at the far border of the affected area (S-400) of STELS aircraft will be found ...

[Inok10]

Quote: PQ-18

Nevertheless, even SUCH Russian air defense-shnaya "insufficiency" is a deterrent ...

.. PQ-18 in fact, everything is true, but judging by the essence and style of presentation below is written by Kamrad Bongo :

Do not flatter yourself, the Kaliningrad region and the Baltic Fleet base in Baltiysk are protected from air attack by one single C-400 regiment and a regiment armed with the rather old C-300PS. This is not enough for such a region. In addition, there is great doubt about the ability of the 48Н6Е3 missiles with a semi-active seeker to operate at a specified range on stealth 5 generation fighters.

.. each person has his own phobias, in this case, Mr. Bongo .. everything about the S-300, then this is the PS .. .. surely there’s another picture, don’t go to your grandmother .. .. now in order ..
1. There is no regiment With 400 .. there are two divisions on 12 PU .. a regiment from 14 of the year is the 3 division ..
2. There is no regiment of "old enough S-300PS" .. there is 22nd Separate Guards Anti-aircraft Missile Regiment Armed with S-300V (specific modification of the State secret) .. this can be said thanks to the Bastion-Karpenko (the screen is attached http://bastion-karpenko.ru/baltic-fleet/) .. .. According to the staff in the regiment, 3 divisions, and in each division 4 batteries .. .. ah, in every battery ..
4x4 missiles + 2x4 launch vehicles (9A83 + 9A85)
2x2 missiles + 1x2 transport and launch (9A82 + 9A84)
.. each division shells 24 targets and directs 48 SAMs .. regiment = 72 goals / 144 missiles (at a rate of 2 missiles × 1 target) ..
.. Total: in the Kaliningrad province of my 100 on 180 km. 12 batteries and 24 PU S-400 .. it is to sufficiency ..
.. and correctly noticed PQ-18 .. excluding short-range air defense ..
.. regarding the capabilities of the semi-active GOS 5G25M SAM 48N6E3 .. this is Mr. Bongo to the Almaz-Antey Air Defense Concern .. there the engineers are probably less educated ..

[Thunderbolt]

The Baltic Fleet near Kaliningrad has an S-400 in its composition. Here, only "... you can't shoot, you can't throw --- combat missiles .." (c)

[Stiletto]

Quote: Inok10

.. thanks, but we have had everything in the Kaliningrad province for a long time .. with missiles 48Н6Е3 (250 km.) they can be hit right on takeoff to Lask ..

Then, my friend, you have a couple of imported "ducks" for preparation to us at NII-2

[Vladimirets]

Quote: Stiletto

you have a couple of imported "ducks" for preparation

Do not forget to pick out the fraction.

[Inok10]

Quote: Vladimirets

Do not forget to pick out the fraction.

.. there is another way .. to put down the guys from Sailing .. they will drag him in a "slightly disassembled" form and without any damage ..

[Bongo]

Quote: Inok10

1. There is no regiment With 400 .. there are two divisions on 12 PU .. a regiment from 14 of the year is the 3 division ..

I am reporting specifically for Inok10, which put me on the "black list" in the absence of arguments. ZRDN is the smallest unit that has a headquarters. ZRDN - formation in the composition of anti-aircraft missile regiments (brigades) capable of independently performing a combat mission in isolation from other units and subunits. But there can be no talk of any separate anti-aircraft missile divisions, especially on the new C-400. I do not have reliable data on this issue, but most likely they are organizationally included in a regiment of mixed composition with C-300P.

Quote: Inok10

There is no regiment of "rather old S-300PS" .. there is the 22nd separate Guards Anti-aircraft missile regiment armed with S-300V (specific modification of the State secret) ..

Do not confuse "sour with sweet". Judging by the previous statements of Inok10 S-300PS does not exist in nature at all, or is it a "state secret"?
In the 2014 picture of the year below, the position of C-300PS near Yantarny, it is impossible to confuse C-300П with С-300В.

Quote: Inok10

about the capabilities of the semi-active seeker 5G25M ZUR 48N6E3 .. this is for Mr. Bongo in the Almaz-Antey Air Defense Concern .. there the engineers are probably less educated ..

In the education of engineers Almaz-Antey I have no doubt but in your big ...
At the specified maximum range of 250 km, the missile launcher flies by inertia, with the engine inoperative. At such a range, in an ideal jamming environment, it is possible to fire (at a certain altitude range) only large radio-contrast and low-maneuverable targets (heavy bombers, military transport, tankers, etc.). In reality, the missile launch range against tactical aircraft (not inconspicuous) usually does not exceed 70% of the maximum. These are common truths, it is strange that you "do not know".

[Old26]

Quote: Bongo

The S-75 air defense system and the army mobile air defense systems "Krug" and "Kub" have practically been removed from the armament of the air defense units of the CIS countries. The S-200 long-range air defense system remained in single copies and will be decommissioned in the near future.

C-75 can be removed, although there are still small quantities. And as for the others:
Belarus has 4 S-200 divisions, Kazakhstan has up to 30 S-125 / С-200 divisions, Tajikistan has up to 20 C-75 / С-125 launches, Armenia and Kazakhstan have a Circle and a Cub in 18 Circle, how much in Kazakhstan. So far from single instances. Although of course not in the amount of tens and hundreds

[Bongo]

Quote: Old26

C-75 can be removed, although there are still small quantities. And as for the others:
Belarus has 4 S-200 divisions, Kazakhstan has up to 30 S-125 / С-200 divisions, Tajikistan has up to 20 C-75 / С-125 launches, Armenia and Kazakhstan have a Circle and a Cub in 18 Circle, how much in Kazakhstan. So far from single instances. Although of course not in the amount of tens and hundreds

I do not know how "in the subject" you are But your data is outdated on 3-4 of the year.
Let's go in order. The S-75 air defense systems are only "in storage" (in a dead state, almost all missiles are leaking). The DBs are not carried and there is no point in taking them into account. S-125 of the latest modifications are actively exploited, largely due to solid-propellant missiles (there is no need for time-consuming and dangerous refueling) and the good performance of the complex.
After delivery to Armenia and Azerbaijan, the S-300P "Cube" and "Krug" were removed from the database. However, in the last years, there were few combat-ready kits (spare parts with lamps were used up, the decomposition of solid fuel components on the "Cubes" missiles began, and the missiles on the "Kroogi" became openly fire hazardous due to kerosene leaks (rubber soft tanks lost their tightness).
The S-200 air defense systems are superior in range to all C-300P modifications, but no one was seriously involved in their modernization. The complex is single-channel, it does not meet modern requirements for noise immunity, it is very expensive to maintain, but there is no sense at all about its mobility and survival during the course of hostilities. Available in Belarus and Kazakhstan, C-200 is currently removed from the database, which is confirmed by satellite images.

[Bongo]

Quote: Old26

Belarus has 4 division C-200,

The last two S-200 divisions were in service with the 377-th anti-aircraft missile regiment (Polotsk), it is expected that it will be re-equipped with the S-300ПМ or С-400 delivered from the Russian Federation). Currently, one division has been liquidated, its positions are undergoing restoration, only two missiles are present at the launcher of the second (in the 2015 picture of the year). About the same picture in Kazakhstan.

[Bongo]

Especially for those "who are in the tank" :
http://tvzvezda.ru/news/forces/content/201502011311-h49j.htm
If we discard the air chatter, then the video clearly shows the S-300PS air defense system. Moreover, one of the officers brings his performance characteristics.

[Inok10]

Quote: Bongo
I am reporting specifically for Inok10, which put me on the "black list" in the absence of arguments. ZRDN is the smallest unit that has a headquarters. ZRDN is a formation as part of anti-aircraft missile regiments (brigades) capable of independently performing a combat mission in isolation from other units and subunits. But there can be no talk of any separate anti-aircraft missile divisions, especially on the new S-400. no I have no reliable data on this issue, but most likely they are organizationally included in the regiment of mixed composition with the S-300P.
Do not confuse "sour with sweet". Judging by the previous statements of Inok10 S-300PS does not exist in nature at all, or is it a "state secret"? laughing
In the 2014 picture below, S-300PS positions not far from Yantarny, it is impossible to confuse the S-300P with the S-300V.

.. here it is not for nothing that he mentioned the presence of a phobia in Mr. Bongo in relation to C 300, all that he sees is defined as PS.. others he does not exist or all of them are exclusively near Moscow .. PM, PM1, PM2 .. for interfacing, control and issuance of target designation to various air defense systems from the past centuries there are "Polyana" and "Baikal", this is Mr. Bongo probably just not known .. in black he was sent yet 2 months ago precisely for this reason and for excessive passion wikimapia.org .. from where he draws his own awareness of the duty positions of the database .. .. with regards to the specific photo given under Amber .. ah, YOU Mr. Bongo sure that this is the S-300PS, or maybe it is PM / PM1 / PM2? .. being in Kosmomolsk on the Amur, Kaliningraders tell me "true" and initiate "into the sacraments" of the sufficiency of air defense systems in my region .. and, earlier on the basis of "open data", wikimapia.org and aunt Vicki Mr. Bongo talked about "The current state of the country's air defense" ..

Quote: Bongo
I have no doubts about the education of engineers at Almaz-Antey, but yours is big ...

.. I will propose to Mr. Bongo express their own doubts to the engineers of the Almaz-Antey Air Defense Concern .. they probably took into account the use of active and passive jamming in conditions of setting up active and passive interference ..