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ZRK C-400 are being transferred under Astrakhan to conduct exercises

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Personnel and military equipment, including the C-400 air defense system, arrive at the Ashuluk training ground in the Astrakhan region to take part in the exercises of the CIS joint air defense system “Combat Commonwealth-2015”, reports RIA News message of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation.


ZRK C-400 are being transferred under Astrakhan to conduct exercises


“The first train with the Triumph C-400 anti-aircraft missile systems, special engineering equipment, and material and technical means for deploying a field camp to accommodate personnel went to the Ashuluk training ground,” the release said.

Then, C-300 complexes, another C-400 batch, air defense units of the HVS, as well as helicopters, airplanes and other equipment will be sent to the southern region of the country.

According to the press service, "the exercises of the joint air defense system of the CIS will be held in three stages and will last until September 11."

“A practical episode of the management of the coalition group will be held as a separate episode of the exercises at the Sary-Shagan training ground (Republic of Kazakhstan) aviation and air defense forces in the preparation and during the hostilities in the Central Asian region of collective security to repulse a massive missile and air strike with live firing of anti-aircraft missile systems S-300, S-200, S-125, S-75, military air defense systems "Circle", "Cube" and the use of operational tactical aircraft MiG-27, MiG-29, MiG-31, Su-27 of the Armed Forces of the Republic of Kazakhstan, ”the military department said.
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  1. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 1 September 2015 13: 49 New
    +6
    Teachings are already becoming commonplace, which is good. The army is doing what it should be.
    1. SRC P-15
      SRC P-15 1 September 2015 14: 35 New
      +5
      "The first train with S-400 Triumph anti-aircraft missile systems, special engineering equipment, and also material and technical means for deploying a field camp to accommodate personnel went to the Ashuluk training ground," the release said.

      I had to visit the Ashuluk training ground in 1974. I still will not forget the taste of the local chlorinated water and the creaking of sand on my teeth while eating. In the afternoon at my station, the temperature went over 50 degrees. Complex S-125.
    2. vodolaz
      vodolaz 1 September 2015 14: 41 New
      +1
      Quote: rotmistr60
      Teachings are already becoming commonplace, which is good. The army is doing what it should be.

      I agree. I remember my teachings, which took place in the training in 2000: they raised us “on alarm” (everyone knew about it beforehand), we took our junk and drowned in hangars, such as starting equipment that basically did not start. We sat until lunch and stomped back to the barracks. In part, the encoder told our staff exercises that were carried out on paper: they sent him all the encryption from the center, and he dragged them to the unit commander.
  2. Bongo
    Bongo 1 September 2015 13: 53 New
    +8
    “A practical episode of the training at the Sary-Shagan training ground (Republic of Kazakhstan) will be the practical development of the issues of managing the coalition group of aviation and air defense forces during the preparation and during the hostilities in the Central Asian region of collective security to repulse a massive missile and air strike with military firing anti-aircraft missile systems C-300, C-200C-125, C-75, complexes of military air defense "A circle", Cube... - told in the military department.
    wassat
    Apparently, "storytellers" are sitting in the "military department", or people do not know anything about what they are talking about negative S-75 air defense missile systems and the Krug and Kub military mobile air defense systems have been practically withdrawn from service in the air defense units of the CIS countries. Long-range air defense systems C-200 remained in single copies and will be decommissioned in the near future.
    1. gispanec
      gispanec 1 September 2015 14: 11 New
      +2
      Quote: Bongo
      S-75 air defense systems and the Krug Circle and Cube army mobile air defense systems

      laughing laughing wassat thank you ... neighing .... but naturally bows and wrote ... well, darts .... this is a rarity in the air defense forces
      1. Bongo
        Bongo 1 September 2015 14: 16 New
        +5
        Quote: gispanec
        thank you ... neighing .... but naturally bows and wrote ... well, darts .... this is a rarity in the air defense forces

        Zadolbali such "news" wassat The VO administration can not hire a normal editor, although not much versed in military affairs?
        1. Thunderbolt
          Thunderbolt 1 September 2015 14: 53 New
          0
          But some of the Kub air defense missile systems are stored even in the Russian army. And if the Kazakhs have some in their units, I won’t be surprised.
          1. Bongo
            Bongo 1 September 2015 15: 05 New
            +5
            Quote: Thunderbolt
            But some of the Kub air defense missile systems are in storage even in the Russian army

            Most likely there is no longer even “in storage”request The first "Buki" have already developed their resources, which speaks about the "Cube" whose production was discontinued in 1983.
            Quote: Thunderbolt
            . And if the Kazakhs have some number in parts, then I won’t be surprised.

            He doubted and deliberately looked into the directory K.V. Chuprina. As of 2008 year in Kazakhstan, a certain number of “Cubes” were “in storage”. Now most likely they are all disposed of. At least officially, only Strela-10 is listed in the armament of the army air defense units.
    2. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 1 September 2015 20: 34 New
      0
      Quote: Bongo
      Apparently, "storytellers" are sitting in the "military department", or people do not know anything about what they are talking about

      "told the military." In the "military department" and Aunt Glasha can tell something. wink
  3. roskot
    roskot 1 September 2015 14: 19 New
    +1
    Not a day without exercises. The usual job of maintaining alertness.
  4. Stiletto
    Stiletto 1 September 2015 14: 22 New
    +1
    C400 should not be transferred to Astrakhan for exercises, but to Poland. They brought a couple of good targets F-22 from behind the puddle.
    1. Inok10
      Inok10 1 September 2015 14: 28 New
      +6
      Quote: Stiletto
      C400 should not be transferred to Astrakhan for exercises, but to Poland. They brought a couple of good targets F-22 from behind the puddle.

      .. thanks, but we have everything in Kaliningrad province for a long time .. hi with SAM 48N6E3 (250 km.) they can be hit right on takeoff to Lask .. hi
    2. Bongo
      Bongo 1 September 2015 14: 49 New
      +6
      Quote: Inok10
      Thank you, but we have had everything in the Kaliningrad province for a long time .. with missiles 48Н6Е3 (250 km.) they can be hit right on takeoff to Lask ..

      Do not flatter yourself, the Kaliningrad region and the Baltic Fleet base in Baltiysk are protected from air attack by one single C-400 regiment and a regiment armed with the rather old C-300PS. This is not enough for such a region. In addition, there is great doubt about the ability of the 48Н6Е3 missiles with a semi-active seeker to operate at a specified range on stealth 5 generation fighters.
      In the picture, the S-400 air defense missile system is deployed at the former positions of the S-200 air defense system near Gvardeysk.
      1. PQ-18
        PQ-18 1 September 2015 15: 47 New
        +1
        Do not flatter yourself, the Kaliningrad region and the Baltic Fleet base in Baltiysk are protected from air attack by one single C-400 regiment and a regiment armed with the rather old C-300PS. This is not enough for such a region. In addition, there is great doubt about the ability of the 48Н6Е3 missiles with a semi-active seeker to operate at a specified range on stealth 5 generation fighters.

        Nevertheless, even SUCH Russian anti-aircraft "insufficiency" is a deterrent ...
        And the modernization of the air defense systems and the RTS in the USSR and Russia always occurs during the operation of these systems and facilities. During the operation, the deficiencies are more fully identified, because ...
        At the design stage, EVERYTHING is impossible to consider!
        DO NOT forget about the air defense of the ground forces in the Kaliningrad region ...
        I believe that a solution to the effective firing at the far border of the affected area (S-400) of STELS aircraft will be found ...
        1. Inok10
          Inok10 1 September 2015 21: 30 New
          +3
          Quote: PQ-18
          Nevertheless, even SUCH Russian anti-aircraft "insufficiency" is a deterrent ...

          .. PQ-18 in fact, everything is true, but judging by the essence and style of presentation below is written by Kamrad Bongo:
          Do not flatter yourself, the Kaliningrad region and the Baltic Fleet base in Baltiysk are protected from air attack by one single C-400 regiment and a regiment armed with the rather old C-300PS. This is not enough for such a region. In addition, there is great doubt about the ability of the 48Н6Е3 missiles with a semi-active seeker to operate at a specified range on stealth 5 generation fighters.
          .. each person has his own phobias, in this case, Mr. Bongo .. everything about the S-300, then this is the PS .. laughing .. surely there’s another picture, don’t go to your grandmother .. laughing .. now in order ..
          1. There is no regiment With 400 .. there are two divisions on 12 PU .. a regiment from 14 of the year is the 3 division .. hi
          2. There is not a regiment of "fairly old S-300PS" .. there is 22nd Separate Guards Anti-aircraft Missile Regiment Armed with S-300V (specific modification of the State secret) .. this can be said thanks to the Bastion-Karpenko (the screen is attached http://bastion-karpenko.ru/baltic-fleet/) .. hi .. According to the staff in the regiment, 3 divisions, and in each division 4 batteries .. laughing .. ah, in every battery .. laughing
          4x4 missiles + 2x4 launch vehicles (9A83 + 9A85)
          2x2 missiles + 1x2 transport and launch (9A82 + 9A84)
          .. each division shells 24 targets and directs 48 SAMs .. regiment = 72 goals / 144 missiles (at a rate of 2 missiles × 1 target) .. hi
          .. Total: in the Kaliningrad province of my 100 on 180 km. 12 batteries and 24 PU S-400 .. it is to sufficiency .. laughing
          .. and correctly noticed PQ-18 .. excluding short-range air defense .. hi
          .. regarding the capabilities of the semi-active GOS 5G25M SAM 48N6E3 .. this is Mr. Bongo in the Almaz-Antey Air Defense Concern .. there engineers are probably less educated .. hi
    3. Thunderbolt
      Thunderbolt 1 September 2015 15: 03 New
      +1
      BF near Kaliningrad has in its composition S-400. Here, only ".. you can’t shoot, you can’t throw --- military missiles .." (c) smile
  5. Stiletto
    Stiletto 1 September 2015 14: 53 New
    +4
    Quote: Inok10
    .. thanks, but we have had everything in the Kaliningrad province for a long time .. with missiles 48Н6Е3 (250 km.) they can be hit right on takeoff to Lask ..


    Then, my friend, you have a couple of imported “ducks” to prepare for us at the NII-2 wink laughing
    1. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 1 September 2015 20: 36 New
      +2
      Quote: Stiletto
      you have a couple of imported "ducks" for the preparation

      Do not forget to pick out the fraction. smile
      1. Inok10
        Inok10 1 September 2015 21: 36 New
        +4
        Quote: Vladimirets
        Do not forget to pick out the fraction.

        .. there is another way .. put down the guys from Sailing .. they drag him in a “slightly disassembled” form and without a single damage .. laughing
    2. Bongo
      Bongo 2 September 2015 04: 18 New
      +2
      Quote: Inok10
      1. There is no regiment With 400 .. there are two divisions on 12 PU .. a regiment from 14 of the year is the 3 division ..

      I report specifically for Inok10 who scored a blacklist for me due to the lack of arguments. ZRDN - is the smallest unit that has a headquarters. ZRDN - formation in the composition of anti-aircraft missile regiments (brigades) capable of independently performing a combat mission in isolation from other units and subunits. But there can be no talk of any separate anti-aircraft missile divisions, especially on the new C-400. no I do not have reliable data on this issue, but most likely they are organizationally included in a regiment of mixed composition with C-300P.
      Quote: Inok10
      There is not a regiment of "sufficiently old S-300PS" .. there is an 22 separate Guards Anti-aircraft Missile Regiment armed with S-300В (a specific modification of State Secret) ..
      Do not confuse "sour with the equine." fool Judging by the previous statements of Inok10, the C-300PS does not exist in nature at all, or is it "state secret"? laughing
      In the 2014 picture of the year below, the position of C-300PS near Yantarny, it is impossible to confuse C-300П with С-300В.
      Quote: Inok10
      about the capabilities of the semi-active GOS 5Г25М missiles 48Н6Е3 .. this is Mr. Bongo in the Almaz-Antey Air Defense Concern .. there the engineers are probably less educated ..
      In the education of engineers Almaz-Antey I have no doubt no but in your big ...
      At your specified ultimate range, 250 km missiles fly by inertia, with the engine inactive. At such a range, in conditions of ideal interference conditions, only large radio-contrast and low-dimensional targets (heavy bombers, military vehicles, tankers, etc.) can be fired (at a certain altitude range). In reality, the launch range of missiles in tactical aircraft (not inconspicuous) as a rule does not exceed 70% of the maximum. These are common truths, it is strange that you are "not in the know".
  6. Old26
    Old26 1 September 2015 22: 17 New
    0
    Quote: Bongo
    S-75 air defense missile systems and the Krug and Kub military mobile air defense systems have been practically withdrawn from service in the air defense units of the CIS countries. Long-range air defense systems C-200 remained in single copies and will be decommissioned in the near future.


    C-75 can be removed, although there are still small quantities. And as for the others:
    Belarus has 4 S-200 divisions, Kazakhstan has up to 30 S-125 / С-200 divisions, Tajikistan has up to 20 C-75 / С-125 launches, Armenia and Kazakhstan have a Circle and a Cub in 18 Circle, how much in Kazakhstan. So far from single instances. Although of course not in the amount of tens and hundreds
    1. Bongo
      Bongo 2 September 2015 02: 27 New
      +2
      Quote: Old26
      C-75 can be removed, although there are still small quantities. And as for the others:
      Belarus has 4 S-200 divisions, Kazakhstan has up to 30 S-125 / С-200 divisions, Tajikistan has up to 20 C-75 / С-125 launches, Armenia and Kazakhstan have a Circle and a Cub in 18 Circle, how much in Kazakhstan. So far from single instances. Although of course not in the amount of tens and hundreds

      I do not know how much you are "in the subject" request But your data is outdated on 3-4 of the year.
      Let's go in order. The S-75 air defense systems are only “in storage” (in the killed state, almost all SAM missiles flow), the databases are not carried and there is no sense in taking them into account. C-125 of the latest modifications are actively operated, largely due to solid fuel missiles (no need for time-consuming and dangerous refueling) and good performance of the complex.
      After delivery to Armenia and Azerbaijan of S-300P, the “Cube” and “Circle” were removed from the database. However, in the last years there were few combat-ready kits (spare parts with lamps were used up, decomposition of solid fuel components into the Kubov missile launcher began, and the Krug missiles from the Krug became openly flammable due to kerosene leaks (rubber soft tanks lost their tightness).
      The S-200 air defense systems are superior in range to all C-300P modifications, but no one was seriously involved in their modernization. The complex is single-channel, it does not meet modern requirements for noise immunity, it is very expensive to maintain, but there is no sense at all about its mobility and survival during the course of hostilities. Available in Belarus and Kazakhstan, C-200 is currently removed from the database, which is confirmed by satellite images.
    2. Bongo
      Bongo 2 September 2015 03: 08 New
      +1
      Quote: Old26
      Belarus has 4 division C-200,

      The last two S-200 divisions were in service with the 377-th anti-aircraft missile regiment (Polotsk), it is expected that it will be re-equipped with the S-300ПМ or С-400 delivered from the Russian Federation). Currently, one division has been liquidated, its positions are undergoing restoration, only two missiles are present at the launcher of the second (in the 2015 picture of the year). About the same picture in Kazakhstan.
      1. Bongo
        Bongo 2 September 2015 13: 19 New
        +1
        Especially for those who are in the tank fool :
        http://tvzvezda.ru/news/forces/content/201502011311-h49j.htm
        If we discard the air chatter, then the video clearly shows the S-300PS air defense system. Moreover, one of the officers brings his performance characteristics.
    3. Inok10
      Inok10 2 September 2015 12: 53 New
      +3
      Quote: Bongo
      I report specifically for Inok10 who scored me a blacklist due to the lack of arguments. ZRDN - is the smallest unit that has a headquarters. ZRDN - formation in the composition of anti-aircraft missile regiments (brigades) capable of independently performing a combat mission in isolation from other units and units. But there can be no talk of any separate anti-aircraft missile divisions, especially on the new S-400. no I do not have reliable data on this issue, but most likely they are organizationally included in a regiment of mixed composition with the S-300P.
      Do not confuse "sour with the equine." Judging by the previous statements of Inok10, the S-300PS doesn’t exist in nature at all, or is it "state secret"? laughing
      In the 2014 picture below, S-300PS positions not far from Yantarny, it is impossible to confuse the S-300P with the S-300V.

      .. here it is not for nothing that he mentioned the presence of a phobia in Mr. Bongo in relation to C 300, all that he sees is defined as PS.. others he does not exist or all of them are exclusively near Moscow laughing .. PM, PM1, PM2 .. for pairing, control and target designation of various air defense systems from time immemorial there are "Polyana" and "Baikal", this is Mr. Bongo probably just not known .. in black he was sent yet 2 months ago precisely for this reason and for excessive passion wikimapia.org .. from where he draws his own awareness of the duty positions of the database .. laughing .. with regards to the specific photo given under Amber .. ah, YOU Mr. Bongo Sure that this is the S-300PS, or maybe it is PM / PM1 / PM2? .. being in Kosmomolsk on the Amur, they tell me to the Kaliningraders that they are “true” and dedicate “to the sacraments” the sufficiency of the air defense systems of my region .. and, earlier, on the basis of “open data”, wikimapia.org and aunt Vicki, Mr. Bongo talked about the "Current state of air defense of the country" .. laughing laughing laughing
      Quote: Bongo
      I have no doubts about the education of engineers at Almaz-Antey, but yours is big ...

      .. I will propose to Mr. Bongo to express their own doubts to the engineers of the Almaz-Antey Air Defense Concern .. they have taken into account the use in active and passive jamming conditions for sure .. hi