Hungarian Air Force launched a Baltic air patrol

Hungarian pilots took over the 4-month duty to patrol the airspace of the Baltic countries, reports MIC with reference to tass. The mission transfer ceremony took place at the Lithuanian air base Zokniai.

“Hungary’s decision to participate (in the so-called air police) is another demonstration of the unity and solidarity of the countries of the North Atlantic Alliance,” said Lithuanian Defense Minister Juozas Olekas. - We are pleased to see the Hungarian contingent in Lithuania. We have productive and diverse ties with the military in this country. ”

Patrols will take place on the 4-x fighter JAS-39 Gripen. The Hungarians changed the doubled patrol, which included pilots from Norway and Italy.

“The Baltic countries do not have the necessary aviation to control your airspace. Since 2004, it has been provided, replaced every four months, by their NATO partners. Until last spring, aircraft were based only in Lithuania. Since April 2014, NATO aircraft have also been deployed in Estonia at Emari’s base, ”the newspaper explains.

From 2010, Riga, Vilnius and Tallinn pay, on a parity basis, the living expenses of the detached air force contingent from NATO countries. In addition, they pay for the transportation of staff and necessary equipment. All together - this is about € 15 million per year.

Comments

[SS68SS]

Mission transfer ceremony

Some kind of circus. NATO and the Americans are trying to make a show of everything

is another demonstration of the unity and solidarity of the countries of the North Atlantic Alliance

Unity and solidarity? Where did they go when it came to illegal immigrants from Africa and the Middle East. Could chip in and help Greece and the same Hungary, the first to accept the invasion.
But no, my hut is on the edge .... Hypocrites ... Ugh ...

[Byshido_dis]

Saab JAS-39 Gripen MDA ... they would have let cornmen go on patrol their borders ... What are the conscripts (previous post) such and airplanes ...

[marlin1203]

The "proud Balts" achieved their true independence, now their foreign soldiers are guarding (or guarding )

[Byshido_dis]

The JAS-39 Gripen is a modern European incarnation of what the MiG-21 used to be ...

[pomegranate]

This is a pretty good plane the first flight in the 88th year !!!
Technical specifications
Crew: 1 (2) people
Length: 14,1 (14,8) m [11]
Wingspan: 8,4 m
Height: 4,5 m
Wing area: 30 m²
Empty weight: 6800 (7100) kg
Normal take-off weight: 8500 kg
Maximum takeoff weight: 14 000 kg
Payload Mass: 5300 kg
Fuel mass in internal tanks: kg 2000
The mass of fuel in the PTB:
Engine: Volvo Aero RM12
dry engine weight: n / d
maximum traction: 1 × 5100 kgf
afterburner thrust: 1 × 8160 kgf [12]
Flight performance [edit | edit wiki text]
Maximum speed at high altitude: ~ 2200 km / h (M = 2,0)
Combat radius: 800 km
Practical ceiling: 15 240 m [13]
Rate of climb:
Wing loading: 283 kg / m²
Thrust-to-weight ratio: 0,97
Maximum operational overload: −3 / + 9 g
weaponry
Cannon: 1 × 27 mm Mauser BK27 (ammunition - 120 shells)
Rockets:
Air-to-air:
6 × Rb.74 (AIM-9) or Rb 98 (IRIS-T)
4 × Rb.99 (AIM-120) or MICA
4 × Rb. 71 (Skyflash) or Meteor
Air-to-surface:
4 × Rb. 75
2 × KEPD-350
2 × Rbs.15F (anti-ship missile)
Bombs:
4 × GBU-12 Paveway II
2 × Bombkapsel 90 (cluster bomb)
8 × Mark 82

[bulvas]

The plane may not be bad, but why is Beeline advertising on it?

Something is wrong here ...

[gjv]

Quote: bulvas

The plane may not be bad, but why is Beeline advertising on it?

These strips are not bee, but tiger. The plane took part in the NATO Tigermeet. However, the photo most likely is not the Hungarian Gripen, but the 211st tactical squadron of the Czech Air Force from the base of Caslav.

[6 inches]

but what did the plane displease you with?

[lelikas]

Quote: Byshido_dis

Saab JAS-39 Gripen MDA ... they would have let cornmen go on patrol their borders ... What are the conscripts (previous post) such and airplanes ...

The last they recently lost over the sea ...

[DanSabaka]

well, the car is certainly not one of the most powerful, but (in the photo) is equipped with a suspended container "Beeline"

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: DanSabaka

but on the other hand (pictured) it is equipped with a "Beeline" hanging container

Complex of electronic countermeasures "Beeline". With skillful use - a thing more powerful "Khibiny".

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Byshido_dis

Saab JAS-39 Gripen MDA ... they would still let cornmen patrol their borders ...

Guard! As many as 4 aircraft guard the peaceful sky over the Baltic states! And who will guard Hungary? They gave all the aviation to the Chukhites! Probably migrants from Syria ...

[milann]

All their "unity with solidarity" - to the first serious nix. As small children - to play "war", to bomb someone, until their muzzle is not cleaned, so they will dust in the sandbox.

[Truth]

Quote: milann

and they will dust in the sandbox

I live in the Far North, Yamalo-Nenets Autonomous Okrug, Purovsky District, so our district is 15370 square kilometers. more mercy than enta is Hungary itself ... well, God be with them, let them hang out, have fun ... soon they will be given to all Europeans, runners from the East and from Africa will make their way out.

[Thunderbolt]

Quote: Byshido_dis

The JAS-39 Gripen is a modern European incarnation of what the MiG-21 used to be ...

MiG-21, say ... maybe so, only here is the opinion of the Hungarian officer who flew both on these and on these. Lies probably lieutenant colonel?

"Military Parity." The commander of the Hungarian fighter contingent Gripen in the Lion Effort exercises, Lt. Col. Csaba Ugrik, at the beginning of his career, flew the MiG-21 and MiG-29, then he retrained on the Hungarian Air Force Gripen. Here he gives a personal idea of ​​some of the changes that have occurred with the development of Gripen.
“The old MiG-21 and MiG-29 aircraft are difficult to compare with the Gripen.” Battle tactics are very different. MiG-21 had limited capabilities. The flight lasts only 40-50 minutes, and then you land. You can fly more time on the MiG-29 because it has more fuel, but it should still operate close to the base. "Gripen" is equipped with a system of refueling in the air, has a large fuel supply and it is possible to confidently fly on it far from the front line. "
“On the MiG-21 and MiG-29 aircraft control occupies 80 percent of the workload, and only 20 percent remains on tactics. We flew without the new equipment that we have now (situational awareness), the assessment of the tactical situation was largely dependent on the intuition of the pilots. At Gripen, if you have good training in the MSS (mission support system) and can complete the task on the simulator, then only 10 percent of the workload will be spent on piloting, giving you 90% of the time to complete the mission. With the Link 16 tactical information exchange line, you have a high degree of situational awareness, and there was very little such possibility on the MiG-21 and MiG-29. All this fundamentally changes tactics. ”
To take full advantage of these opportunities, the newly recruited Hungarian pilots from the very beginning are trained according to the NATO methodology. Students complete the entire training course at the NATO Flying Training Center in Canada, including stage IV tactical training. After that, they leave for Sweden at the Såtenäs airbase for retraining on the Gripen C / D in the F7 fighter wing, which takes 10-11 weeks. Then they return to Hungary to continue tactical training on the Gripen.
http://www.saabgroup.com/en/Campaigns/Lion-effort/Updates/?a7pageid=37178

[sabakina]

Thunderbolt
“The old MiG-21 and MiG-29 aircraft are difficult to compare with the Gripen.” Battle tactics are very different. MiG-21 had limited capabilities. The flight lasts only 40-50 minutes, and then you land. You can fly more time on the MiG-29 because it has more fuel, but it should still operate close to the base. “Gripen” is equipped with an air-to-air refueling system, has a large fuel supply and it is possible to confidently fly on it far from the front line. ”

Probably lying ...

[avdkrd]

Quote: sabakina

Probably lying ...

but it’s not that he’s lying, it’s just a moment29 among the Hungarians of the times of the USSR with the corresponding avionics and of course without the option of additional adjustment. Of course, they also have weapons systems of the same times, at best with partial adaptation to NATO standards (I don’t know for sure whether the Hungarians did such work or not). Of course, there are difficulties with ground-based equipment (ignorance and guidance), of course, there are With the same success you can compare the T72 from Hussein and the modernized T72 B3, the latter is not a standard, but is in a completely different weight category.

[sabakina]

avdkrd
Thanks for the answer. I'm in aviation no boom boom.

[gjv]

Quote: avdkrd

just a moment29 among the Hungarians of the times of the USSR with the corresponding avionics and of course without the option of additional adjustment. Of course, they also have weapons systems of the same times, at best with partial adaptation to NATO standards (I don’t know for sure whether the Hungarians did such work or not).

On December 28, 2010, the 22 MiG-29B and 6 MiG-29UB were officially withdrawn from service with the Hungarian Air Force. Now they fly on Gripeny (12 combat Saab JAS 39C, 2 combat training Saab JAS 39D). In Europe, the MiG-29 remains in operation in the air forces of Bulgaria, Poland, Slovakia, Serbia. The Poles are actively upgrading their MiG-29 to NATO standards and also want to tackle the repair and modernization of the Bulgarian MiGs. In Slovakia and Serbia, not all of the remaining MiGs are combat-ready.

[northern]

Quote: SS68SS

“The Baltic countries do not have the necessary aviation to control their airspace.

Forgot to add that the Baltic countries do not have airspace for acceleration to supersonic. The Baltic ends very quickly.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: north

The Baltic ends very quickly.

Russian pilots do not understand the meaning of the phrase "I could not go to supersonic, because the country ended"

In this respect, Liechtenstein is recalled. During his Second World War, his prince fled to Switzerland and led the defense of neutral Liechtenstein from there. He is still considered the national Liechtenstein hero for the fact that he (attention!) managed to prevent the Nazi occupation of the country. I have a subjective opinion that the Germans, passing from Austria to Switzerland (there is one road, 9 km), simply did not notice it (maybe the pointer was blown away by the wind). Otherwise, these two and a half alpine villages would certainly occupy.

That's for sure - a small dog to death a puppy.

[Mihail177]

Well, if the Hungarians are on patrol, Russia will be scared to bomb the Baltic states, fact.

[vik669]

Already in my heart feel better now I'm calm for the Baltic states!

[Oberon812]

There would generally now hang up red flags and write "Dangerous zone"

Skype chat:
- Imagine, Anka got the right! On the eighth attempt of all)
- Wow! I’ll go better tomorrow by metro, away from sin ...)

[oleg-gr]

Ukrainians and Balts are very fond of freebies. Some are freebies of NATO, while others really want to become them. Before the collapse of the USSR, especially these republics shouted that it was they who fed Russia.

[taburetka]

May they send the Andorran Navy to patrol the shores of the Baltic states!

[Temples]

Hungary's decision to participate (in the so-called air police) is yet another demonstration of the unity and solidarity of the countries of the North Atlantic Alliance

US submission demonstration. No more.
For them, "solidarity" against Russia is more important than their own sovereignty.
This is what they demonstrate.

[bmv04636]

Again, did they save on the second engine? Well, greedy euro collective farmers as well as the bright elves. Or is it possible to put a weakly controlled thrust vector for two engines?

[Oman 47]

The gamblers licked the mattresses.

[veksha50]

Quote: bmv04636

Or is it possible to put a weakly controlled thrust vector for two engines?

There you have to duuuuumat ....

[voyaka uh]

Gripen, like the F-16 - single-engine.
He has good maneuverability and decent traction.
Normal light fighter 4 ++.

[Papakiko]

Quote: voyaka uh

Normal light fighter 4 ++.

Why is it so modest, just 4 ++ and not 7 ++++++ !?

[armata37]

Most likely, voyaka uh, writing 4 ++, did not mean an assessment, but a generation of the aircraft.

[Nosgoth]

About that and speech. How did he underestimate the generation of this device, which, I suppose, goes right after the coolness after the F-22 and F-35 (of course). ... put few pluses

[bmv04636]

and if the bird gets into the engine or God forbid, which is heavier. Ales Kaput will

[kotvov]

Normal light fighter 4 ++. ,,
a fighter can be a good one, but Nata can be said to be full of ...

[cherkas.oe]

Quote: voyaka uh

Normal light fighter 4 ++

In general, I agree, but one plus sign is superfluous.

[kil 31]

Have you brought the green peas of the globe company? Feed sprats.

[Alexander 3]

The Hungarian fascist army found its end in the USSR. 2 soldiers remained. Do not repeat the mistakes of your grandfathers. Live peacefully with your MIGHTY neighbor. We have enough of our land.

[veksha50]

Quote: Alexander 3

2 soldiers left.

Shaw, not shot? Where are they ???

[KAPITANUS]

Combat - HUNGARS, steel - BULGARS, invincible - ROMANIANs, yes! Agricultural workers abandoned gardens and gardens, because it is better for them.

[AdekvatNICK]

and one cannot but mention the immortal river Baltic fleet.

[Vladimirets]

Quote: KAPITANUS

Combat - HUNGARIANS

By the way, the Magyars in the Second World War were absolutely not like the Romanians, they fought fiercely.

[roskot]

Names came up - Sky Watch, Latvian Wall. Sprat she is a sprat.

[veksha50]

"Riga, Vilnius and Tallinn, on an equal footing, pay the living expenses of the seconded air force contingent from NATO countries. In addition, they pay for the transportation of personnel and necessary equipment. All together, this is about € 15 million per year" ...


Quite costly expenses with their something economics .... Go ahead, "sisters" and so on ...

It will not be enough - order more sea patrols ...

Still not enough - order a space umbrella ...

However, it seems that the money still on air patrol should end ...

[sv68]

the next one in this logger will scare us with his aircraft? not NATO but armed buffoons.

[gladysheff2010]

Some kind of "world" is being protected from someone!

[chelovektapok]

Magyars of the Balts are on patrol. "Mamalyga with sprats". Saw Russia Mother Lilliputians and larger. Their historical masters stood outside Moscow in 1941. And nothing ... We got into the Reichstag. And it has always been like this: "Russian entertainment is about to take Berlin every 50 years." (C). At what we ourselves have never climbed to them. The masochists were the first to start!

[Mindaugas]

At all times in all countries, the continued presence of a foreign military in the sovereign state was called occupation. The Baltic states are front-line states. This status implies that if a war begins, these countries will become a battlefield. And no matter who unleashes this war. But there are no safe places on the battlefield ... the USSR built ports, factories, ships in the Baltic states, besides zappelins with herring, they had nothing sweeter, they cannot understand that it is more profitable for them to be friends with a neighbor than with an overseas provocateur. They will spoil the already small territories with military bases, make them a testing ground for confrontation with Russia, but they will not give money and wealth, all the Baltic states in Europe will have to take out pots for their mistresses.

[Bosk]

I don’t know about Gripenov, but a week ... maybe two ago I saw six jet training planes over the central part of Latvia, I won’t say what kind of planes it was, it was high and far away, five planes flew in a wedge and the sixth on the left and slightly in front if not this incomprehensible construction, then probably I would not have paid attention to them.

[sgazeev]

Latvian aerobatic team, training for participation at MAKS-2015, at L-39.

[cherkas.oe]

Quote: Byshido_dis

The JAS-39 Gripen is a modern European incarnation of what the MiG-21 used to be ...

The car, of course, is not very bad, but in terms of charisma, the number of countries that have it in service and simply in terms of the number released during the current period in comparison with the 21st, it cannot be compared, and in terms of participation in combat use, it cannot be compared at all. So, the "European incarnation" is dystrophic in comparison with our "bestseller" .

[afrikanez]

It’s interesting, but where has Lithuania already patrolled something ???