Poland decided to repair the Bulgarian MiG-29 without the participation of the Russian side

Polish defenders undertook until the end of 2016 to repair the 6 engines of the MiG-29 fighters in service with the Bulgarian Air Force, reports REGNUM with reference to the press service of the Ministry of Defense of Bulgaria.




“The parties signed an agreement on cooperation in the military sphere, as well as a letter of intent for military-technical cooperation. In accordance with the agreement, Poland will repair the engines and units of three fighters by the middle of 2016, and the remaining three by the end of the year, ”the release says. It is assumed that the repair will deal with the Polish state-owned enterprises WZL 2 and WZL 4.

An agreement on this was reached on August 28 during the visit of the Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of Defense of Poland to Sofia.

“The signed documents create broad prospects for developing partnerships in the defense sector,” said Bulgarian President Rosen Plevneliev. - We perceive these agreements not only as a means to extend the life of the Bulgarian fighter aviation, but also as a tool for expanding cooperation, both in the defense industry and in many other areas. "

The head of the Polish Ministry of Defense, Semonyak, said in his reply that "Poland realizes how important it is for Bulgaria to preserve the flying resources of fighter aviation, and will do everything possible to meet the expectations."

In January, 2015 was reported that Bulgaria refused to renew the contract with the Russian Federation for the maintenance of MiGs due to the “high cost of repairs”.

Commenting on this decision, the representative of the RAC "MiG" in Bulgaria, Alexander Alexandrov, said that "Poland cannot carry out repairs and maintenance of the Bulgarian MiG-29, since it does not have the necessary license for this."

According to him, “the Polish side buys all the spare parts for the MiG-29 in Russia, so the repair of these fighters in Poland, by definition, cannot be cheaper.”

RSK MiG warned that after repairing airplanes in Poland, they would consider them defective and "disclaim all responsibility for their continued operation."
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  1. Altona 29 August 2015 12: 16 New
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    As the rogues were and remained ... Let them make the left "budget" repair at the Poles to "extend the resource" ...
    1. milann 29 August 2015 12: 20 New
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      These "brothers" have always betrayed Russia. That in the first, that in the Second World, as with the South Stream. However, they are in a "pan" to each other.
      1. boozer 29 August 2015 12: 58 New
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        "-One word - Romanian!
        -So he is Bulgarian !?
        -Who cares?"
        Nothing to add, corrupt "bros", poverty in life ...
        1. bobby 29 August 2015 13: 52 New
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          Bulgar speaks a language similar to Russian. Romanian speaks a language similar to French.
          1. Hell's Angel 29 August 2015 14: 14 New
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            "-Who cares?"
            No, not between languages, but between Bulgarians and Romanians? "Iskander" just the same!
            1. severniy 29 August 2015 18: 59 New
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              I have a grandfather (prof driver), as it took the Zhiguli box to sort out ...
              with a bookie ... sorted everything out in order ..., looked, looked, then grabbed everything in a bag and went to buy a new one ... and MiG seems to me to smell more difficult than a Zhiguli box ...
              1. Igluxnumx 29 August 2015 21: 41 New
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                I once undertook to sort out the “Niva” razdatka. With a little book. It turned out, the 4th year I go.
                Although, MIG-29 - this, of course, will be more difficult.
                1. ingener1966 30 August 2015 21: 59 New
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                  The box from Moskvich 2140 was first sorted through a booklet, and then, in 3 hours, it was sorted through to all friends. request MIG’s engines are indeed much more complicated because Gazprom took part in gas compressor launches. recourse
                2. KaPToC 31 August 2015 01: 13 New
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                  Quote: Iglu40
                  I once undertook to sort out the “Niva” razdatka. With a little book. It turned out, the 4th year I go.

                  Somehow I took MTZ-82 to sort through, without a booklet but with a red diploma - it turned out.
                  1. sso-xnumx 31 August 2015 21: 05 New
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                    Quote: KaPToC
                    Somehow I took MTZ-82 to sort through, without a booklet but with a red diploma - it turned out.

                    I respect !!!! Himself at MTZ learned to ride, the beast tractor !!!!!
              2. Shurik70 30 August 2015 09: 26 New
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                Quote: severniy
                I have a grandfather (prof driver), as it took the Zhiguli box to sort out

                Phew ...
                So when I was in the army, a neighbor in the bunk undertook to fix a mechanical wristwatch.
                Disassembled. Collected. A couple of gears were extra.
                But the MAIN THING - the clock EARNED !!!
                And they worked normally until the end of the service.
              3. Rarahin 31 August 2015 13: 21 New
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                Rephrase an old joke:

                Dismantled the poles for repair of the MiG-29. They wiped off oil drips, dull parts were wiped with a cloth, tinted ...
                Collected strictly according to the instructions.
                The result was a diesel locomotive.
                Poles ofigeli a little.
                Disassembled.
                Again (just in case) they wiped everything with a cloth, collected it ... Diesel locomotive.
                Carefully studied the instructions. Dismantled. Collected (this time they did not dare to rub with a cloth): there is a handsome man - a diesel locomotive! All shines, already glitters from leaving!
                There is nothing to do, we bow to the Russians.
                They call MiG RSK, they say so and so, they dismantled it for prevention, collected it (strictly according to the instructions !!!), and we got a diesel locomotive. Like a mess, some kind.
                - Have you carefully read the instructions?! - Ask at the RSK.
                - Of course, carefully!
                - Did you read paragraph 97 of the “D” application ??!
                The Poles were taken aback:
                -What point? What application? What is written there??!
                - And there it is clearly said: after assembly, process with a file to give the necessary shape!
              4. Foxmara 2 September 2015 03: 12 New
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                driver does not mean mechanic. And the Poles have a twinkle. They also had their own aircraft factory. Before cooperating with the Yankees. Now only rem base. Because the Yankees do not need Poland to produce something there, except for Russophobes. But there is a rem base, and technically they can very easily repair it in an instant.
            2. Tatyana 30 August 2015 16: 18 New
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              angel of hell (xnumx)
              "Iskander" just the same!

              The betrayal by the peoples of each other, in particular, is generated by the so-called Chicago ideology of M. Friedman, which is now prevailing in the world. "clean" market of capital, goods and labor.
              The US is building its international policy on this to establish its "new world order" on the principle of "Divide - and rule!"
              1. BLACK-SHARK-64 30 August 2015 20: 38 New
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                clever Tanechka .... only not everyone understands this ... or they do not want to understand ...
              2. NordUral 30 August 2015 22: 19 New
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                There is no net market. It exists in the inflamed brains of our liberals. I speak from my own experience - if you are not in the structure, then you need to be seven spans seven times in the forehead to take place from scratch, even with a great idea and whether it is a development. If there is no funding, no success. Rare exceptions only confirm this.
                I was lucky, but in the end, all the same, production had to be closed during the crisis. Because he worked alone, without state support and orders.

                And Bulgarians are criminals in relation to their pilots. However, this is their business. They betrayed us, they will sell us theirs.
              3. takto.onotak 1 September 2015 04: 51 New
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                There is an addition, Americans can preach any ideology, but the final consumer makes the decision to follow it exclusively, so "bros", we are not bros ...
              4. Hell's Angel 1 September 2015 17: 54 New
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                Well, Romanians understand ... But the Bulgarians? After Shipka, in all wars they fought against us. I note that Americans as a "hegemon" were not there then. And who betrayed whom? Brothers say ...?
                1. The stranger 2 September 2015 00: 20 New
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                  Do me a favor - remind me when, where, by what forces after Shipka, clashes took place between the Bulgarian and Russian / Soviet forces. When they fought together, against a third party.
                  How do you rub yourself - apologize?
                  1. The stranger 2 September 2015 01: 21 New
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                    Yes, by the way, the same Romanians were allies of the Russian Empire in the same Fifth Russian - Turkish War of 1877 - 1878, which is Liberation for us. And they were killed in it less than Russian and Bulgarians, but many. Like the Finns, Swedes, Hungarians, Czechs, Slovaks, ...
                    The Romanians also had their own selfish interest in it, because before it, they were Vasals of the Ottoman Empire, and after it they were freed.
                    When did they become traitors - when did Ceausesco quarrel with Brezhnev, or after?
                    In World War I, they also fought with you against us. And in the Second - already - against you. But in the 46th, their current king joined the Communist Party, and fussed with Stalin. Which a little later, he still hung.
                    Who betrayed whom?
                  2. Hell's Angel 2 September 2015 06: 09 New
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                    In August 1916, when the preponderance of forces began to lean towards the Entente, and Austria-Hungary suffered a terrible military defeat from Russia, from which it was never able to recover, Romania (it seemed to be becoming a habit among Romanians) decided to grab its freebie a piece of Austria-Hungary and declared war on her. But German troops came to the aid of Austria-Hungary. It ended with the instant defeat of the fearless Romanian warriors. Russia had to save Romania and organize a new front. Here on this front, Bulgarian troops with Austria-Hungary and Germany opposed Russia.
                    Bulgaria, which fought on the side of Germany in World War II, despite a widespread misconception, did not fight the USSR. She refused to declare war on the USSR and, unlike all German allies, did not send troops to the eastern front. Moreover, she maintained diplomatic relations with the USSR. In 1944, the USSR itself declared war on Bulgaria, but it did not come to military action. As soon as the Soviet army entered Bulgaria, a communist coup took place, and Bulgaria itself declared war on Germany. It's true. But she fought in a different place, which indirectly helped Germany. Bulgaria was not alone in this. Finland, Hungary.
                    1. The stranger 2 September 2015 07: 12 New
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                      "... but fought elsewhere ..." What is the sin of Bulgaria.
                      Then I will have to reciprocally declare the war of the Russian Federation in Ukraine, where about a million Bulgarians live, a betrayal of my interests, which indirectly helps the United States. Russia is not alone in this. Serbia, Turkey, Greece. And somehow, the betrayal of the Russian Transnistria does not come out of the news. Where the majority of the population speak better, but outdated Bulgarian, than me. Which saved the 14th Army of the Russian Federation that year, although it later abandoned them.
                      Do you really need more history? It will not be in your favor if you have a thesis - I betrayed you. That I am polite is not a reason for me being rude. It’s my decision to treat Russians well. The imposition of a relationship to someone, we have a sharply opposite reaction, a national feature.
                      Here you have a national peculiarity - you think that you SHOULD love you for what you are. And we are used to being hated for the same. Maybe it’s even more incomprehensible why we don’t shout Hyle Putin And because you still have to live to such a chant. It’s easy for you to be Russian on Red Square on May 9th, and for me to be myself is war. The question is not about me personally, and, thank God, it’s not Panfilov’s yet, but my soul feels it. Yes, it won’t come true under a joke, but you certainly don’t help such weak nonsense to my weak forces.
                2. pytar 2 September 2015 10: 25 New
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                  After reading this hardening, he got angry at first, and then he started laughing! What a terrific ignorance! sad The only case when the Bulgarians fought against the Russians, is during the First World War. And it will be more accurate if we say that it was not the Bulgarians who fought against the Russians, but the Russians who fought against the Bulgarians! Clashes took place in Dobrudja, where the Russians came to help the battered Romanians, as in Macedonia, where the Russians helped the French and Greeks against the Bulgarians. So look at the map where is Dobrudja, where is Macedonia and where is the nearest Russian territory !!! This is all the lands of Sanstefan Bulgaria, which the Russians themselves liberated, and later under the Berlin Treaty they were forced to transfer back to the Turks, thereby returning the 2 / 3 newly liberated Bulgarians back to Turkish slavery. The same lands inhabited from the Bulgarian 1300 years, were later occupied by our neighbors during the All-Union War in 1913.! Ksati Dobruzh, this is the area south of the Danube, which can be called the most Bulgarian of all Bulgarian lands, because it was just that first piece of land in the Bolkans where Bulgaria was created in 681! In 1878, northern Dobrudja, Russia transferred to the Romanians as a dividend from the Romanian participation in the liberation war against the Turks. Romania has never been there in history and Romania did not want Dobruzhda. She wanted Moldova and Besarabia, where Moldovans related to the Romanians lived. Since Russia itself took away Moldova, the Romanians eventually agreed on the original Bulgarian Dobrudja. Then the Romanians still got an appetite and took all Dobrudja right up to Varna! The fighting during the PVP took place just in the Bulgarian territory! Before you write some kind of stupidity, it will be more useful to see the map! WWII was a Just Liberation War for us! Who came to whom to war ??? I tell me ??? If they come to your home to kill you and your loved ones, then of course you will take up arms and you will be selected! It was you who came to us, not we to you! Understand once and for all that Russia's actions towards Bulgaria were not always fair, for which they received a corresponding reaction! during WWII, the Bulgarian army again did not go a step outside the territory inhabited with Bulgarians within the same Stanstefan Bulgaria! Ksati Russia itself in 1878 unambiguously recognized that territory the Bulgarian land / land of the Bulgarians /! What kind of betrayal are you talking about? Who betrayed whom ??? You know ... one smart person once said that ignorance is one of the most terrible human sins!
                  1. Hell's Angel 2 September 2015 14: 33 New
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                    Appeal "you" to a stranger, I write to the fact that Russian is not your native. And where am I to you Naham, touchy you ours?
                    You cannot understand that Russia doesn’t care who Bulgaria is friends with now. This is your choice. You just made it clear that as a member of NATO, Bulgaria is now seen as a hostile state in military terms and in case of war our missiles will not care where they were sent. And who once fought with whom is already a story. You asked for the facts, I gave them to you. That's all.
                    Understand once and for all that Russia's actions towards Bulgaria were not always fair
                    The world is generally unfair. We in Russia see this every day. Get used to it. Moreover, we have good teachers in the USA - the EU. Now in Russia "only business and nothing personal."
          2. boozer 29 August 2015 19: 08 New
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            It seems to be written in Russian, but I did not understand ... laughing
          3. edeligor 29 August 2015 20: 05 New
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            Mr. "evidence" damn it! Pshek with Labus - the most MAJOR Judas of the 21st century !!!!
          4. Bijo 29 August 2015 21: 11 New
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            Romanian speaks a language similar to French [/ quote]
            Romanian speaks a language similar to gypsy
            1. The stranger 30 August 2015 04: 51 New
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              Are you gypsy mastak, haka le?
            2. BLACK-SHARK-64 30 August 2015 20: 40 New
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              and in Moldavian .... Japanese .....
          5. inkass_98 30 August 2015 06: 43 New
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            Quote: bobby
            Bulgar speaks a language similar to Russian. Romanian speaks a language similar to French.

            It was a quote from the movie "Brother-2," father. Here, on this site, specific vocabulary is often used, inaccessible not only to foreigners, but also to long-standing emigrants who do not follow the local culture and subculture.
          6. Maxom75 30 August 2015 07: 30 New
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            You can speak Russian, but at heart you can be a bastard. The question is not the language, but the deeds, the Bulgarians have always betrayed Russia, they are very unreliable comrades. It’s not worth doing business with, and with this approach they will soon become part of Turkey again. Only this time, Russia will not release them, but will give the Turks to be eaten.)))
            1. pytar 30 August 2015 09: 43 New
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              The thesis of "betrayal" of the Bulgarians, in recent years is very widespread in Russia. She ksati brought from you from the outside. And with this approach, it is not surprising that there are so many enemies and enemies around Russia. It may be useful for those commenting here to find out the truth from more competent Russians:
              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTPA9M2HDTE
              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnrA5HitnNw
              1. Evgen_Vasilich 30 August 2015 14: 00 New
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                Quote: pytar
                The thesis of "betrayal" of the Bulgarians, in recent years is very widespread in Russia. She ksati brought from you from the outside.

                The thesis about the betrayal of the Bulgarians was brought from outside precisely by the "little brothers" during the First World War, the Second World War, the collapse of the CMEA, USSR, and the Warsaw Pact. For all the pre-ages, they answered with a shame (almost a quote). So, your business is calf, the owners are Americans, so your business is calf, just ... stand, wait, wait ...
                1. pytar 30 August 2015 14: 24 New
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                  Since there are people who have nothing, it is impossible to prove in any way, and they don’t care about any facts, there is no point in trying and try. I have given links to information that people who are knowledgeable and competent pass to you! I look, in vain ... I sympathize. request
                  1. berenika 30 August 2015 15: 23 New
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                    recently, everyone has taken on us to sympathize and worry about us - sympathize with yourself and worry about yourself. Whatever the dwarf in the backyards of the Russian Empire strives to teach us how to live with us.
                    1. BLACK-SHARK-64 30 August 2015 20: 48 New
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                      100 +++++++++++++++++++++++ =
                  2. BLACK-SHARK-64 30 August 2015 20: 47 New
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                    Daragoi, what thesis ... historical facts and only facts ... Against facts and history, you can’t trample .... EVEN IN NATO STRUCTURE !!!!! No dust on .................. angry angry
                  3. KaPToC 31 August 2015 01: 25 New
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                    Quote: pytar
                    I gave links to information above

                    None of your words will overcome your deeds.
                  4. 65 Centurion 31 August 2015 08: 34 New
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                    From the Warsaw Pact to NATO! Well, well, not traitors, NATO bastards!
                  5. Tiamat2702 31 August 2015 16: 20 New
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                    Dear, the most real threat to Russia is NATO (if you do not agree, you are blind), Bulgaria is in NATO. That says it all. Though from the outside, at least not from the outside. You are traitors!
              2. BLACK-SHARK-64 30 August 2015 20: 45 New
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                Daragoi, what thesis ... historical facts and only facts ... Against facts and history, you can’t trample .... EVEN IN NATO STRUCTURE !!!!! No dust on the site .... gun .-. he................... angry
              3. sso-xnumx 31 August 2015 21: 22 New
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                Quote: pytar
                And with this approach, it is not surprising that there are so many enemies and enemies around Russia.

                Minus one! in vain you are so! Was in July this year in Bulgaria. The attitude of people remembering the times of CMEA and VD towards Russia and Russian tourists is normal. The current authorities are scolding how much in vain, I don’t know about youth. Communication with them is only within the hotel admin. Although they were in the same village, the local elderly villager did not want to talk with us, and she almost climbed up to kiss the Naglich group. Maybe her pounds or Jews are nicer than the left?
            2. BLACK-SHARK-64 30 August 2015 20: 42 New
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              and all for free - circumcision ... am wassat
              1. bastard 31 August 2015 13: 23 New
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                Quote: BLACK-SHARK-64
                and all for free - circumcision ...

                Great aw! For the most. . .
          7. BLACK-SHARK-64 30 August 2015 20: 35 New
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            yes pokher ... he is a traitor and in Africa a traitor .... angry
          8. proletarian 30 August 2015 23: 38 New
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            And the Poles are ruining them.
          9. fevg 31 August 2015 10: 44 New
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            Quote: bobby
            ... Romanian speaks a language similar to French.
            Belongs to the romance group. A little closer Italian than French. Ask the Moldavians - they are also "Romans". )))
          10. sso-xnumx 31 August 2015 21: 10 New
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            Quote: bobby
            Romanian speaks a language similar to French.

            Romanians speak a certain dialect similar to modern Italian. And about the contents of the article: "Avaricious pays twice!" And if, after the Polish repair of a car, the Bulgarians get stuck, bringing the remaining devices to normal condition will cost twice as much! (+ correction of Polish intervention!)
          11. lukewarm 1 September 2015 12: 11 New
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            And what from this? Of course, not a smear of all smear, but, however, a trend.
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        2. Wasiliy1985 29 August 2015 17: 19 New
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          I often remember this episode lately .. Extremely relevant!
        3. jovanni 29 August 2015 21: 48 New
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          "RSK MiG warned that after repairing aircraft in Poland it will be considered defective ..."

          Yes, on the head of the "bro" turned out to be defective ...
        4. MarKon 30 August 2015 08: 47 New
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          Right so
          Yes? -Who cares?"
      2. Sweles 29 August 2015 13: 05 New
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        Quote: milann
        These "brothers" have always betrayed Russia. That in the first, that in the Second World, as with the South Stream. However, they are in a "pan" to each other.


        the people of Bulgaria also suffer from their own government, as well as Russian-Bulgarian relations, it’s not the people of Bulgaria who determine politics, but those who climbed into power and control the country, it was like that before, it is now ...
        1. Corporal Valera 29 August 2015 13: 42 New
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          the people of Bulgaria also suffer from their own government

          Poor, poor people of Bulgaria! (Brushed away a tear) And you don’t find that in recent years 100, the people of Bulgaria have been choosing the government with enviable regularity, from which they then suffer? After the epic with the South Stream, this government could (and should) have a black mark. Apparently, those who claim that the people deserve their government are still right. There and hoh ly are not to blame either! Everything in their life happens beyond their will.
          1. Sweles 29 August 2015 13: 57 New
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            Quote: Corporal Valera
            Apparently, all the same, those who claim that the people deserve their government are right.


            it is now clear that the so-called "democracy" and its main feature of "free elections" actually have nothing to do with the will of the people and freedom, the people do not choose their government, and those who have big money, the mercantile soul are in the government and deceitful language and so in all countries ...
            1. Siberian1965 29 August 2015 18: 47 New
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              Got it? And how will you feel about the elections that took place in the cannibal tribe according to completely democratic procedures, or in a society of pathological killers? Democracy bears no moral or ethical burden. It’s just a way, invented back in the days of Adam, to put a strong male on the throne without bloodshed. But at that time, the survival of the tribe depended on the real strength of this male and, accordingly, democratic procedures made sense. Now everything is much more complicated. In my opinion, the elites are deciding everything now. And democracy is a fairy tale for id..ov.
          2. pin313 29 August 2015 15: 36 New
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            You might think you have a perfect government. Especially before Putin was, and now also excellent. Where is your black mark?
            1. 16112014nk 29 August 2015 16: 37 New
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              That's right. In the anti-people pr-ve of Russia, scammers and thieves do not think about the people, but about their personal interests. As one smart man said: “Have you heard that a sage goes into power?”
          3. andrei.yandex 29 August 2015 16: 45 New
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            You might think we live better.
            How Bulgaria lives (Cognitive TV, Plamen Paskov):
          4. Alexey Boukin 29 August 2015 20: 45 New
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            Corporal Valera.
            Excuse me, dear, do you personally choose your government? ..
          5. tundra 30 August 2015 21: 34 New
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            The order from the Washington regional committee did not come to resent their government.
            As they say, having such friends, enemies are not needed.
            Brothers scrap them in s ....
        2. ver_ 29 August 2015 18: 36 New
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          ... people are too loose concept ...
        3. Maxom75 30 August 2015 07: 32 New
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          And this government does not elect the people of Bulgaria? The main thing was chosen, and now they are suffering.)))
        4. Tiamat2702 31 August 2015 16: 30 New
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          Quote: Sveles

          the people of Bulgaria also suffer from their own government, as well as Russian-Bulgarian relations .....


          Each nation deserves its ruler (government).
      3. gozmosZh 29 August 2015 13: 23 New
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        these "little brothers" would be cut out.
        yes sneeze! change the copper tube? flies in and gags. I sneeze at the "little brothers" and pshikals.
      4. bobby 29 August 2015 13: 48 New
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        Poland is another matter, because Russia is an eternal enemy. How can you sell your enemy?
        1. boozer 29 August 2015 19: 13 New
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          I have a normal attitude towards Poland and the Poles. I did not consider them enemies and do not consider them. Yes, Poland has its own problems, so what? They live for themselves, do not go anywhere much ...
          1. asiat_61 29 August 2015 22: 39 New
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            Apparently you do not read gentry newspapers, but hello my friend !!
        2. Bijo 30 August 2015 18: 48 New
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          Quote: bobby
          Poland is another matter, because Russia is an eternal enemy. How can you sell your enemy?

          So let's declare war and go on to Russia, once an “eternal enemy”. Or you just as at the European Football Championship can, women and "drunk" men beat a crowd, of course, "Poland is another matter."
          1. Hell's Angel 1 September 2015 18: 01 New
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            It seems to me the gentlemen our fans oh how they wait for the Polish at the 2018 World Cup. But only our police are afraid I will be quick Polish. It's a pity. Debt good turn deserves another.
      5. andrei.yandex 29 August 2015 16: 41 New
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        After that, in betrayal, I doubted.
        An Inconvenient Story: Bulgarians vs. Russians?
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        Quote: milann
        These "brothers" have always betrayed Russia.

        Short memory of these Turkish concubines. Forgotten completely who freed them from the Ottoman yoke ...
      7. The stranger 1 September 2015 11: 23 New
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        What are you doing, judges - impostors ???

        The article is about NATO’s stupidity, and you should be glad that there will be less than 6 fighters against you. Instead, in insane comments, they did something that the best Anglo-Saxon propagandists do not even dream of. Why did you need this? Repeat hundreds of times one lie, will offend friends and allies, and get what? Self-affirmation? In what? The fact that the young, stupid, and not reading their own or world history? So nobody disputes this for you. I know and understand what is happening and why, I also represent the understanding of your leadership on the Balkans. But what do you command to cover the local Russophobes who looked at these three pages of hysteria? And then just who is not necessary - they saw.
        Oh, guys ...
        1. Hell's Angel 1 September 2015 18: 05 New
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          Just to make it clear to everyone that Bulgarians cannot be trusted. And at the next "batch" in Russia there will be no illusions. And then maybe someone naively hand on the button to press does not rise.
          1. The stranger 1 September 2015 18: 17 New
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            Trust in what?
            Bulgaria cheated in something? Did you hide something? Didn’t you? Not paid? Attacked?
    2. Ruthless 29 August 2015 12: 21 New
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      What the owners gave permission for, they did it during the "repair." They are patients with limited legal capacity (both with it) ... laughing
      Again, nobody canceled kickbacks in those parts winked
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        gjv 29 August 2015 13: 53 New
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        What the owners gave permission to do, and went for the "repair".

        On July 13, 2015, Russian President Vladimir Putin signed a law amending the Air Code. His main innovation was the possibility of changing the standard design of a civil aircraft, aircraft engine, propeller, not only their developer, but also the developer of changes to such standard designs. Thus, the amendments, in fact, legalize the work of Russian enterprises, for example, with An-brand aircraft.
        In February of this year, Show Observer showed an interagency decision of 2014 (without signatures) on working with the aircraft of this brand, which was approved (or should have been approved) by the leadership of the Ministry of Defense and the Ministry of Industry and Trade. From the draft document, in particular, it followed that IL was designated as an authorized design bureau for An-124 aircraft and acting in Russia as a developer of the aircraft; EMZ them. V. M. Myasishchev - An-24, An-26, An-28, An-30, An-32, An-12, An-72, An-22, An-140, An-148; SibNIA - An-2.

        An-124-100 Ruslan aircraft of Volga-Dnepr Airlines (left; registration number RA-82081, serial number 9773051462165, serial number 08-03; last built An-124 aircraft) and the 224th Russian Air Force flight detachment ( right; registration number RA-82038, serial number 9773054955077, serial number 06-02) at the Tolmachevo Airport (Novosibirsk), 24.06.2015/XNUMX/XNUMX (c) NSK spotter / Yurij Vladimirovich / russianplanes.net

        What will now look like the situation with the design support of An-brand cars can be partially understood by the example of An-2 aircraft. In early July, director of SibNIA Vladimir Barsuk in an interview with RBC said: “Antonov has no rights to develop this aircraft <...>. Previously, they belonged to the Ministry of Aviation Industry, today - to the Ministry of Industry and Trade of the Russian Federation. After the well-known events in Ukraine, an interdepartmental decision was made to the appointment of SibNIA as the developer of An-2. "
        It is high time, as Poland is repairing the MiG-29 of Bulgaria without the consent and participation of Russia.
    3. siberalt 29 August 2015 12: 25 New
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      Miser pays twice. "Repair", but write off. Business then. laughing
      1. Inok10 29 August 2015 12: 46 New
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        Quote: siberalt
        Miser pays twice. "Repair", but write off. Business then. laughing

        .. hardly .. probably the mattresses are financing, because the rest, Bulgaria itself and NATO do not have money, and most likely the following scheme, the amount is 10 mil. dale:
        The United States allocates 10 mil for repairs.
        Bulgaria rolls back 20% to the “giving hand” 2 mil., The remainder 8 mil.
        Bulgaria plunders another 20% of the remaining 8 mil. and equips Poland for the remaining 6,4 mil.
        Poland is also not stupid and immediately cuts 20% again to mattresses, they will cover if they “run over” The Russians and the remaining 5,12 naturally Polish pans saw another 20% and the remaining 4,096 fall into an aircraft repair enterprise, where they are also not fools and work under this business Ukraine for 1,5 mil. .. and everyone is happy and satisfied .. and Russia made disgust and took money laughing .. the truth is that the fate of the Migovs can be sad, they will be "lost" by chance in the vast expanses of Ukraine, as was already the case with Indian transporters .. laughing .. and another unpleasant moment, it may be a scheme for the transfer of used Soviet equipment for arming the wide Ukrainians .. hi
        1. Semen Semyonitch 29 August 2015 13: 46 New
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          Guess three times what will happen if these fighters appear in the sky above the Lao PDR ... They, in my opinion, have their own ... Only a little sense.
      2. khromin 29 August 2015 12: 54 New
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        write off without repairing. type, but I could not, could not ....
      3. meriem1 29 August 2015 13: 21 New
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        Quote: siberalt
        Miser pays twice. "Repair", but write off. Business then. laughing


        Yes, let it go !!! There, the Americans, together with the Ukrainians, upgraded our engine on the last rocket that they fell. Let it go. Think bad luck)))
      4. hrych 29 August 2015 13: 44 New
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        Miser pays twice.

        In jet aircraft, such frugality will end with another birch and a lush funeral ...
    4. Major Yurik 29 August 2015 12: 27 New
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      The hands of the psheks are “golden”, they only grow out of the ass! It’s not for them to collect Turkish washing machines, although it will do for the Bulgarians, they’ll fall earlier, before the Yankees give up their old kerogazes! stop
      1. Kos_kalinki9 29 August 2015 12: 43 New
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        The hands of the psheks are “golden”, they only grow out of the ass! It’s not for them to collect Turkish washing machines, although it will do for the Bulgarians, they’ll fall earlier, before the Yankees give up their old kerogazes! stop

        I think that the word GIVEN is inappropriate here.
      2. Semen Semyonitch 29 August 2015 13: 49 New
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        ! It’s not for them to collect Turkish washing machines

        After the "repair" get washing machines? laughing
      3. SibSlavRus 29 August 2015 14: 31 New
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        This, dear, is called the "transition to NATO standards" method. lol
      4. spech 29 August 2015 14: 37 New
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        Hands at the Golden Pshek

        In the sense of "gilt pen" drinks
    5. veksha50 29 August 2015 12: 31 New
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      As the rogues were and remained ... Let them make the left "budget" repair at the Poles to "extend the resource" ...



      Hmm ... And our warships are being repaired by these "rogue", and not for a penny ...

      Now you just need not to sell spare parts for the Migas to the Poles ... here the "repair" will stop ...
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        Hmm ... And our warships are being repaired by these "rogue", and not for a penny ...
        wassat
        Actually, the BDKs were repaired to repay the debt to us.
        1. veksha50 29 August 2015 12: 47 New
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          Quote: avt
          Actually, the BDKs were repaired to repay the debt to us.



          I do not argue with duty and the need to work it out, give it back ...

          However, if my assault rifle or pistol had been in the hands for a long time ... well, not a direct enemy, but an ill-wisher ... Anyway, it doesn’t matter in the wrong hands, then I would be wary of him, while in all modes, situations have not experienced ...

          Maybe it was me from age that became so obese and distrustful? ...
        2. Thunderbolt 29 August 2015 12: 58 New
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          the coupe pays twice. "Repair", but write off. Business then.
          Polish aircraft factories are quite technologically advanced and, in general, they were solid masters during the favorable times of CMEA forged from MTLB to landing battleships. P.S. now clearly understood that the filling is ours.!)) But this does not beg for Polish brezhka !!! Israeli for example reliable and expected car in the night already Hunter
          1. excomandante 29 August 2015 13: 17 New
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            I can not help but wonder. Landing battleships - what kind of animals?
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            gjv 29 August 2015 19: 07 New
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            Quote: Thunderbolt
            Polish aircraft factories are quite technological and in general they are experts

            Quote: SibSlavRus
            This, dear, is called the "transition to NATO standards" method.

            The Poles are now upgrading 16 of their MiG-29A avionics. Do it yourself at the factory Wojskowe Zaklady Lotnicze 2 (WZL-2) in Bydgoszcz. On-board equipment modernization includes the installation of the MIL-STD-1553B data bus, INSB-29, AVB-29 and HDB-29 interfaces, a 127 x 102 mm color multi-function indicator, an MDP task planning computer, an EGI navigation system (including an inertial laser system and equipment GPS with integrated SAASM module), DVR, camera and flight data acquisition computer. A second dual-band UHF / VHF radio station with HaveQuick I / II and SATURN coding system and a new panel PS-COM-01 of the P-862 radio station are also being installed. Repair and modernization should extend the life of these machines until 2028.
            And they also have 26 Su-22s of various modifications and they scratch their turnips: either write them off, or repair them and upgrade them too.
            And the Bulgarians have only 12 pieces of MiG-29, i.e. we are talking about half of the park (not counting three MiG-29UB).
    6. Juborg 29 August 2015 12: 47 New
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      I think nothing will come of the Poles. Somehow the USSR built an aircraft factory for the production of aircraft parts (they gave them jobs), so these parts were already scrapped in 90 tons, and accumulated mountains of illiquid assets over decades. Born to crawl, repair planes can not!
      1. APASUS 29 August 2015 13: 10 New
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        Quote: juborg
        I think nothing will come of the Poles. Somehow the USSR built an aircraft factory for the production of aircraft parts (they gave them jobs), so these parts were already scrapped in 90 tons, and accumulated mountains of illiquid assets over decades. Born to crawl, repair planes can not!

        The thing here is more likely that Uncle Vasya can fix the mercedes in the garage, only Uncle Vasya’s guarantees are quoted at the level of a beer stall and you choose ......
      2. Vladimir 1964 29 August 2015 20: 23 New
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        Born to crawl, repair planes can not!

        Yuri, maybe you forgot, but by the beginning of World War II, the Poles had their own air force, namely fighters and bombers. Unfortunately I do not have information on their combat use, but the fact that they flew is for sure.
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          Yuri, maybe you forgot, but by the beginning of World War II, the Poles had their own air force, namely fighters and bombers.

          Had. Only now already backward at that time.
    7. Sweles 29 August 2015 13: 01 New
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      and in Poland, what is the aircraft engine factory? as far as I know poland has never produced engines so this is propaganda chatter ...
    8. anokem 29 August 2015 13: 07 New
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      I think that soon the Americans will begin to massively write off the F-16 after the mass entry into service of the F-35. And then the Bulgarians and other countries of Eastern Europe will get the F-16 in large quantities, and not even the oldest versions. So it’s important for the Bulgarians that the MiGs fly a couple more years.
    9. bobby 29 August 2015 13: 45 New
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      business is business. If the Poles do it better and cheaper, why not
      1. shans2 29 August 2015 15: 24 New
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        Poles can only wash toilets better), and not engage in high-tech and high-tech affairs)
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      3. kotvov 29 August 2015 18: 38 New
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        . If the Poles do it better and cheaper, why not ,,
        and after that, repair, you will fly. agree?
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          Quote: kotvov
          and after that, repair, you will fly. agree?

          Quote: juborg
          Born to crawl, repair planes can not!

          The guys and the Poles and the Bulgarians fly on the MiG-29.



          Skepticism is not well understood. And they will be able to fill in spare parts (though used) in the outskirts and at the dad (I won’t be surprised if he pushes new ones).
      4. APASUS 29 August 2015 22: 36 New
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        Quote: bobby
        business is business. If the Poles do it better and cheaper, why not

        It may not be correct, but do you trust everyone to repair the brakes on your car?
        1. Amurets 30 August 2015 07: 20 New
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          Yes, to all passers-by, especially those who like to give advice. Clean from dirt, and then I do the disassembly, assembly, adjustment and bleeding myself.
      5. Maxom75 30 August 2015 07: 43 New
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        Are Poles cheaper?))) Poles need to buy spare parts in Russia and repair MIGs. However, Russia is better, after such a repair there is no guarantee, there is no responsibility and let them fall!))))
    10. Alekseev 29 August 2015 17: 48 New
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      .Let make the left "budget" repair

      And RSK MIG is absolutely fair "... after repairing aircraft in Poland, it will be considered defective and" will relieve itself of all responsibility for their further operation. "
      And you need to push the parts more expensive to the Poles!
      where do they go now? Need to help lousy little brothers.
    11. Andrey Draganov 29 August 2015 20: 11 New
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      It is very pleasing that senility grows stronger in the West !!!
    12. I am 29 August 2015 22: 16 New
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      In their place, these aircraft are easier to dispose of, so as not to suffer. An example of a plane crash by the Polish president to help them.
    13. The stranger 30 August 2015 02: 32 New
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      I do not understand. You really understand the word "rogue"?
      Your sky was protected from counteraction even of the earliest version of MIGA-29, what do you not like? A rogue?
      It may be worth following the bazaar.
      Below I will answer with an unsubscribed duty phrase about bros in a personal meeting, because it would be indecent to take the time of decent people in public. Sorry for the pun.
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    15. Ratmir_Ryazan 30 August 2015 22: 20 New
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      ))) they would have been repaired by the Armenians in a car service ...
    16. MAD_SERGANT 1 September 2015 09: 53 New
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      I think this “repair” will be the last. I hope that the pilots will not suffer
    17. Maaslo Sallonen 1 September 2015 11: 58 New
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      Repair in Poland can be cheaper than in Russia, if the spare parts are “from the bank”, from those written off in the former fraternal ones.
    18. Maaslo Sallonen 1 September 2015 11: 58 New
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      Repair in Poland can be cheaper than in Russia, if the spare parts are “from the bank”, from those written off in the former fraternal ones.
  2. Renat 29 August 2015 12: 16 New
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    Just do not forget to file it later.
  3. Finches 29 August 2015 12: 17 New
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    Brothers-zasr ... ts! Forgive me a sinful soul, but I can’t say anything different about the Bulgarians! And the Poles are still m ... and! Slavs fell under the Anglo-Saxons !! Pah! Prostitutes are cheap!
  4. uzer 13 29 August 2015 12: 17 New
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    The trouble is, since the shoemaker will start the pies, and the boots will stitch the pie ...
    1. veksha50 29 August 2015 12: 33 New
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      Quote: uzer 13
      and boots to stitch a cake ...



      while repairing airplanes is a natural born merchant ...
  5. Name 29 August 2015 12: 17 New
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    The last sentence of the article is encouraging.
  6. AID.S 29 August 2015 12: 20 New
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    All our equipment that passes through Polish hands is drawn to birches ...
    1. Baikal 29 August 2015 12: 33 New
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      Subtly ... but how exactly good
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      Quote: AID.S
      All our equipment that passes through Polish hands is drawn to birches ...



      To Smolensk, or what ???
    3. goncharov.62 29 August 2015 12: 46 New
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      "Pulls home to the birches" - in my opinion, it’s more accurate. Author +++ !.
  7. WE ARE MAKING 29 August 2015 12: 21 New
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    ... and then they say that Russian equipment is bad when they are after such a repair ... well, you understand. Come on! To an authorized dealer!
  8. Prussian 29 August 2015 12: 22 New
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    But do not they blow at the repair of the F-22?
    1. spech 29 August 2015 14: 42 New
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      But do not they blow at the repair of the F-22?

      If one person has repaired, another can forever break ©
  9. Dr. Bormental 29 August 2015 12: 23 New
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    And I thought they only have peppers in Bulgaria.
    1. Bort radist 29 August 2015 13: 07 New
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      And I thought they only have peppers in Bulgaria

      Now it’s gone, the Chinese are eating their own, somehow they are not growing thanks to the euro integration.
    2. AdekvatNICK 29 August 2015 13: 13 New
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      The recipe for the famous Shopska salad now includes Turkish (or Jordanian) "plastic" tomatoes, "Bulgarian pepper" from Holland and Macedonia, onions from China and French cheese. There are no more Bulgarian tomatoes on the local market, but Dutch ones are in full swing. 80% of all fruits and vegetables are imported.
  10. AdekvatNICK 29 August 2015 12: 29 New
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    after the breakdown of the Russian seal and the Migov’s own repair, you yourself will be responsible for the involuntary bailout of pilots in the sky while pressing the “double cappuccino” button on the panel)))
  11. pensioner 29 August 2015 12: 29 New
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    "Good luck" (on a cold foot). yes
    (This is the name of the shoes. Very beautiful, but disposable. For the dead ...
    Here they are - good luck ... winked
  12. veksha50 29 August 2015 12: 30 New
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    ““ The Polish side buys all spare parts for MiG-29 in Russia, so the repair of these fighters in Poland, by definition, could not be cheaper ”” ...

    And who is stopping RSK Mig from stopping the sale of these spare parts to Poland ???

    And well, the representative of the corporation said that after the Polish repair, MiG RSK will consider these fighters defective ... The flag is in the hands of both repairmen and flyers ...

    PS Bulgarian pilots will not be afraid to fly on these MiGs after such repairs ???
    1. Rader 29 August 2015 17: 26 New
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      But I really feel sorry for the pilots of Bulgaria crying It remains to be hoped that Polish repairmen will not get to the ejected seats ...
  13. gelezo47 29 August 2015 12: 32 New
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    Let them try, "save" ... Then they will start to fall, and the psheks will refer to "defective" components ... request
  14. sounddoc 29 August 2015 12: 32 New
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    Yes, let it be repaired, there's nothing you can do about it, Tanned gave a command ... Whoever wants to buy in Russia and get a manufacturer’s guarantee, and European handicrafts will straighten with a mallet on their knees. Their destiny is this - to be a second-hand in every way. still connect the romanian genius of engineering art ...
  15. MIKHAN 29 August 2015 12: 32 New
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    Psheks for repair money will be removed and their hands washed. Eh Bulgarians once again fool you friends in the EU. . .B-)
  16. kil 31 29 August 2015 12: 33 New
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    Why only 6 they have 15 MIG 29, let everything be repaired and the history of MIG 29 in the Bulgarian Air Force will be closed.
  17. Fedor Bolts 29 August 2015 12: 34 New
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    probably it will be so
  18. Ashirbakiev N.B. 29 August 2015 12: 38 New
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    They’ll simply go, and their MiGs will not fly. Then it will be generally uninteresting to drive them.
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  20. sounddoc 29 August 2015 12: 43 New
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    And I thought they only have peppers in Bulgaria.

    You’ll laugh, dear, but in Bulgaria the “peppers” are only in power, and the well-known vegetable is transported mainly from Turkey. Google ...
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  22. olegkrava 29 August 2015 12: 48 New
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    As the rogues were and remained ... Let them make the left "budget" repair at the Poles to "extend the resource" ...

    Some have already modernized the RD-180, let these try. We’ll hear the result in Bulgaria’s disaster news.
  23. sagitch 29 August 2015 12: 52 New
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    In general, neher was left to the former countries, parties to the Warsaw Pact, future NATO members, high-class weapons.
  24. Professor 29 August 2015 12: 58 New
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    Commenting on this decision, the representative of the RAC "MiG" in Bulgaria, Alexander Alexandrov, said that "Poland cannot carry out repairs and maintenance of the Bulgarian MiG-29, since it does not have the necessary license for this."

    What is he talking about? What "license" is needed for repairs? request
    1. tanit 29 August 2015 13: 06 New
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      But do not you even need to certify your company for such a repair? And what is this not a license? Or are great strategists different? laughing This is not about trophies.
      1. Professor 29 August 2015 13: 16 New
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        But do not you even need to certify your company for such a repair? And what is this not a license? Or are great strategists different?

        Nothing needs to be certified. It’s like if you decide to repair your Uncle Vasya in the garage, and a BMW spokesman declares that "Uncle Vasya cannot repair and service BMW, as he does not have the necessary license for this"Maybe he can do it the same way. But after the repair of Uncle Vasya, returning to the official representative will be problematic.
        1. Sergey Trifonov 29 August 2015 13: 37 New
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          If you repair your BMW near Vasya, you will automatically lose all manufacturer guarantees.
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          3vs 29 August 2015 13: 46 New
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          Well, with your logic, it’s possible to repair reactors at nuclear power plants.
          trust third-party companies, they can also buy parts from
          manufacturer.
          And if he explodes, who will answer?
          Or the same Boeing / Airbus / ... in the garage to rewind, what the hell difference
          You can buy original parts.
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            Well, with your logic, it’s possible to repair reactors at nuclear power plants.

            With my logic, the owner himself decides what and where to repair. And no one can tell him "xxx cannot carry out repairs and maintenance." Responsibility lies with the owner.
            1. kotvov 29 August 2015 18: 47 New
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              Responsibility lies with the owner. ,,
              that's just the point. but you professor perfectly know the current relationship. Who do you think will be blamed if this plane shandarashitsya?
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              You just don’t write this ukra, otherwise they will start repairing their own nuclear power plants due to their pathological greed, and then again we will be forced to pacify the new Chernobyl with the whole world.
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              Yeah! Let us merkava twice cheaper than you? laughing
            4. silver_roman 31 August 2015 11: 52 New
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              you are a strange person. I always read your comments and often see logic in doubt, but this topic is already too much: an example from a nuclear power plant. your logic: "our nuclear power plant, we want and repair it as you like." Then the nuclear power plant explodes in the radius of the defeat half the continent. Who will cover the damage ??????
        3. sandrmur76 29 August 2015 14: 01 New
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          Self-repair of your car removes the warranty from the dealer. Even a certified workshop should set the alarm (or goodbye electrical warranty) at best. And an airplane (military) with ammunition on board is a (hazardous) vehicle. All spare parts, fuel and work only through the door of the certificate. Professor You write a lot of sensible, sorry not in this case hi
          1. Professor 29 August 2015 14: 42 New
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            Professor You write a lot of sensible, sorry not in this case

            You are not careful. A BMW dealer cannot forbid me to repair my car from anyone I want. Maximum, I will have problems with the dealer if I decide to return to him, and if not then ... So it is. No one can forbid the Bulgarians to repair their aircraft where IT wants. No license needed. If you decide to return to Russia, then this is another conversation.
            1. Rader 29 August 2015 17: 42 New
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              Yes professor, you are absolutely right. No one can prohibit repairing your BMW with Uncle Vasya (except for sound logic). But after such a repair, in which case, you will not go to complain to the manufacturer (or rather you can, but the lawyers will send you far and for a long time), and it’s not the fact that Uncle Vasya / Poles will be responsible for the jambs ... So Bulgarians do all this at their own peril and risk.
              Ps What of this solution will come out later.
              1. Professor 29 August 2015 18: 04 New
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                Quote: Rader
                But after such a repair, in which case, you will not go to complain to the manufacturer (or rather you can, but the lawyers will send you far and for a long time), and it’s not the fact that Uncle Vasya / Poles will be responsible for the jambs ... So Bulgarians do all this at their own peril and risk.

                What are you all about? These airplanes are either cheaply repaired or scrap. Nobody is going to make candy. No one will go to claims to the manufacturer.
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            sandrmur76


            29 August 2015 14: 01

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            Self-repair of your car removes the warranty from the dealer. Even a certified workshop should set the alarm (or goodbye electrical warranty) in the best case. And an airplane (military) with ammunition on board is a (danger) high-risk vehicle

            Israel is modernizing the MiGs and SU, t-72, etc. for many countries and no one bothers with the question whether the USSR remains a guarantee (although what kind of guarantee is already fucked up) or not
            Responsibility lies with both the owner of the equipment and the company serving or modernizing it.
            All.
            How can you explain this to me?
            Bushehr, SIEMENS reactor, converted it to Atommash equipment and rods - how about this?
            Something Siemens cries were not heard about
            -Where do you climb?
            and so it is clear. You’ve taken it yourself - you’re responsible.
            The topic is closed, IMHO.
            1. padded jacket 31 August 2015 19: 07 New
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              Bushehr, SIEMENS reactor, converted it to Atommash equipment and rods - how about this?
              Something Siemens cries were not heard about

              Or maybe you’re just lying, and you’re always lying?
              Bushehr NPP (Iran)
              In 1998, an addition to the contract was signed, according to which Atomstroyexport CJSC completes the construction on a turnkey basis Unit 1 with an installed electric capacity of 1000 MW with a V-446 reactor installation.
              For example, the main equipment of the “nuclear island” and the turbine are of Russian production, and the buildings are of German design. To install the Russian VVER reactor, it was necessary to redesign the reactor compartment. To make it possible to mount the turbine in the machine room designed and built by the Kraftwerk Union AG concern, the turbine design was changed.
              http://www.atomstroyexport.ru/about/projects/current/busher/
        4. 33 Watcher 29 August 2015 17: 42 New
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          It's like that. You can only stop at a BMW, turn off a little on the road, but here you have to fall.
        5. silver_roman 31 August 2015 11: 50 New
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          when a BMW crashes, they don’t write about it in all the newspapers in the world!
    2. 33 Watcher 29 August 2015 17: 40 New
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      The one that includes a very serious documentation package. Drawings, technological processes, necessary equipment. And most importantly, where will they get the picketers? Here is such a license.
      PS All "aviators" are concerned here.
      Damaged is the matter, in short.
    3. silver_roman 31 August 2015 11: 49 New
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      Imagine, I’m buying, let's say Merkava, then I repair it with my crooked hands, it is not clear what components, then it explodes from a bullet from the PM (exaggerated) and then we say Rheinmetal says that they say that the merkava sucks, buy our Leoperds better.
      In addition, repairs are carried out for money and, based on this, Poland deprives MiG of profit, which should be at least compensated. In general, the international court must go on such issues.
  25. Felix 29 August 2015 12: 58 New
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    Yes, and the flag in hand))) It’s a pity only for those pilots who dare to take off on these MiGs after repair.
  26. BOB044 29 August 2015 13: 01 New
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    The main thing is that the catapult would work. Everyone in Poland and Bulgaria considers themselves the smartest. I will come ..... and.
  27. iouris 29 August 2015 13: 02 New
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    What licenses are we talking about? This is not civilian, but military equipment. Let them do what they want. The responsibility for safety will rest with the Polish company. The task of RSK "MIG" is not to supply legally spare units.
  28. Aleksandr1959 29 August 2015 13: 04 New
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    In the mid-2000s, Poles with parts on the MiG-29 flew in. The Polish military commission arrived in Russia, instead of buying the range of parts directly from the MiG, acquired them from some muddy LLC at the factory. Poles then (relatively cheap ... wassat ) Vparili not just used, but a frank marriage. They began to be indignant, they even filed a lawsuit, they even put some chief of the workshop, but they did not receive compensation from the MiG, they had to buy for the second time
  29. Aleksandr1959 29 August 2015 13: 07 New
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    By the way, here is a video of a Polish aircraft repair plant.
  30. TVM - 75 29 August 2015 13: 07 New
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    Let them buy our spare parts and repair the MIGs in the tram park. What problems? They themselves are the smiths of their happiness! hi
  31. roskot 29 August 2015 13: 09 New
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    Something new - Poles with Bulgarians. This is like the Mexicans with the Egyptians. Here are friends now.
  32. Bort radist 29 August 2015 13: 11 New
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    "The Polish Minister of Defense Semonyak noted in his response that" Poland realizes how important conservation is for Bulgaria flying resource fighter aircraft, and will do everything possible ..... "
    As if flying did not turn into lethal recourse
  33. pvv113 29 August 2015 13: 11 New
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    Bulgaria refused to renew the contract with the Russian Federation for the maintenance of MiGs because of the "high cost of repairs."

    Miser pays twice hi
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      Alas, here the price is human lives. Although who cares, obviously the officials and other "politicians" who signed these agreements will fly on them ...
  34. AdekvatNICK 29 August 2015 13: 15 New
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    Bulgarians prefer to escape alone. A popular joke: "Bulgaria has two ways out of the crisis - terminal 1 and terminal 2 at the airport." Young, talented and stubborn people pack their bags and flee without a trace, leaving the elderly to die in the villages. The north of the country where unemployment is (according to official figures) 60% (!) Has been depopulated. Rare tourists compare it with the Chernobyl zone. Over the past 20 years, 2 million people have left the country. The country has lost more people than during the two world wars, but this is not the limit. The economic crisis coincided with a terrifying demographic catastrophe. By 2060, the population of Bulgaria will be only 5 million people, of which 1,5 million are gypsies. Bulgarians, as a single people with the most ancient Orthodox culture, are doomed.

    “Last year, only 62 babies were born,” says television journalist Ivo Hristov. - This is the lowest birth rate since 000. Bulgaria is melting faster than all European countries. Only Estonia has worse results. Throughout its 1945-year history, our country has never been so close to disintegration. ”

    What is today's Bulgaria? This is a sacrificial pawn on a chessboard. Her role is to be a blocking pawn for all Russian projects. We serve foreign interests, spoil relations with Russia and lose money for the transit of oil and gas. And American friends slap the Bulgarians on the shoulder and say: “Well done guys! You have democracy! ”
    1. Arkan 29 August 2015 13: 32 New
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      And who is to blame for this tragedy ?!
  35. roskot 29 August 2015 13: 15 New
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    the participants of the Warsaw Pact, the future members of NATO, high-class weapons.

    EBN lived on the last day. I ate vodka and sold everything. So he was not up to arms.
  36. Aleksandr1959 29 August 2015 13: 18 New
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    “After ratification and allocation of funds, representatives of the Ministry of Defense began to bargain with the Russian side, seeking to reduce the cost of engine repairs. The RSK-MiG agreed. But at the moment, all the agreements have been frozen by the Ministry of Defense, ”explained Alexandrov. In his opinion, the department is waiting for the end of negotiations with Poland, and if they fail, they can agree to the terms of the RSK-MiG. Aleksandrov also said that the Polish Air Force purchases all components and spare parts in Russia, so the cost of Polish repairs cannot be cheaper than in Russia. However, Minister Nenchev claims that RSC-MiG requested 3 million leva for the repair of one engine, and Poland - only 1 million leva. "
    http://bulgariatoday.ru/news/politics/polsha_ne_imeet_prava_remontirovat_bolgars
    kie_mig_29 /
    1. Maxom75 30 August 2015 07: 56 New
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      And the Poles will have dopniks of 5 million leva?
  37. Arkan 29 August 2015 13: 27 New
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    Poland decided to repair the Bulgarian MiG-29 without the participation of the Russian side


    It’s like a manufacturer’s repair or a garage repair. That's right, Bulgarian planes will be removed, in case of their repair by the Poles (garage), from warranty service. The Bulgarians have no money for modern equipment, let them arm themselves that they will pull financially. For instance:
  38. family tree 29 August 2015 13: 27 New
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    Engines what There, like the scapula itself, more precisely, their cooling. Are they going to reject, and collect one out of two or three, in Poland Migari twenty-ninth did not write off? They can pick from there, only motor resources, sadness in general
  39. boroda64 29 August 2015 13: 29 New
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    "RSK MiG warned that after the repair of aircraft in Poland it will consider them defective and will" relieve itself of all responsibility for their further operation. "
  40. Sergey Vladimirovich 29 August 2015 13: 34 New
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    Traders really know where it’s cheaper ... smile their right, let them repair. laughing
  41. polkovnik manuch 29 August 2015 13: 34 New
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    Russia said its word to these "high contracting parties," as they say: "The rooster crowed, and after that do not dawn!"
  42. barclay 29 August 2015 13: 41 New
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    In January, 2015 was reported that Bulgaria refused to renew the contract with the Russian Federation for the maintenance of MiGs due to the “high cost of repairs”.

    For free - behind the barn!
    With their "diligent" behavior, the Bulgarians did not deserve a lower cost. These "little brothers" will have no more discounts. Let them give discounts to NATO brothers. Poles, probably very kind - "repair" as needed laughing at a reasonable price.
  43. zoknyay82 29 August 2015 13: 42 New
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    Quote: Sveles
    Quote: milann
    These "brothers" have always betrayed Russia. That in the first, that in the Second World, as with the South Stream. However, they are in a "pan" to each other.


    the people of Bulgaria also suffer from their own government, as well as Russian-Bulgarian relations, it’s not the people of Bulgaria who determine politics, but those who climbed into power and control the country, it was like that before, it is now ...

    And who, who chooses them ??? I’m not sure.
  44. Mercenary 29 August 2015 13: 43 New
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    No, stunned! We are responsible for the NATO planes, also repair them?
    Something is wrong in the heads of our managers!
  45. umka_ 29 August 2015 13: 53 New
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    they use Poland and Bulgaria all the time, well, they don’t want to think about summits, they loved to dance to the tune of others.
    1. Rader 29 August 2015 17: 55 New
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      Living your own mind is a difficult and sometimes impossible task.
      An interesting observation: the more politicians yell about "lack of solidity", "democracy" and other "liberal values", the more funds they have in foreign banks wink
  46. kartalovkolya 29 August 2015 14: 14 New
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    And why, almost on the enemy side, sell spare parts for our MiGs? Let them make and repair them for their "cellmates", and bribes are smooth from Russia, or they forgot the story of how and how the "alterations" of the NK-33 rocket engines ended (the United States, together with "Svidomo" Ukraine, altered actually foreign engines, and then The media raised a "howl" about low-quality Russian engines)! Here are the boobies, but is it time to learn the axiom that the avaricious pays twice, stupid-thrice, and the "goof" constantly!
  47. ratfly 29 August 2015 14: 32 New
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    Blades of turbines of engines, they wonder where they will get. The most complex and loaded element. They will put the poppycock and repair in vain, such crap will not last long.
  48. borys 29 August 2015 14: 37 New
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    There is nothing much to argue about. Bulgaria owns aircraft and
    for this reason, he can do whatever he wants with them. Another thing is that
    after such repair, the MIG RSK and in general Russia have no responsibility for
    further operation of these devices should not and will not.
  49. ODERVIT 29 August 2015 14: 58 New
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    Something is not completely clear. Repair of aircraft engines is an archie process, both in the technological and in the components of the process. Without going into details, repair is disassembling, fault finding, replacing and reassembling, testing, reassembling and reassembling, re-testing ..... Quite rightly, it was noted in the previous comments - And where to get the components and assemblies necessary after the fault detection? A repair of fuel automation? Caution I will assume that in full the Poles will not be able to carry out repairs.
  50. pytar 29 August 2015 15: 08 New
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    As it has become a “tradition”, every novelty from Bulgaria, no matter what is at stake, is interpreted in an extremely negative aspect in Russian media. On my favorite site is "Military Review", a copy copied from the REGNUM agency, unfortunately immediately became a favorite place for anti-Bulgarian comments. By the way, the same REGNUM agency has been repeatedly noted in anti-Bulgarian interpretations of events. And here on the site, the on-duty Bulgarianophobes foamed up to faint, not even trying to delve into the problem. But this is unimportant, since such an essence of all --- phobes. Everyone has the right to their opinion, but some allow themselves, curses and insults regarding the attitude of the Bulgarian people and violation of the rules of the site! As a friend of Russia and the Russian people, I believe that such behavior works to the benefit of the enemies of Russia and the enemies of Bulgaria. For me, the tolerance shown by moderators to such statements without meaning about which people are talking is incomprehensible. Okay ... Let's leave it to their "conscience." To provoke, to offend, to spit on everything that is possible, is not our business. And to be honest, I want to say a few words on the topic itself. Negotiations with MiG Corp. on the repair of the MiG-29 have been ongoing with varying success for many years. The leadership of the Bulgarian Ministry of War, until now, itself did not have clarity on the fate of the Migov. Opinions differed, but Mig-i ... rusted ... There was no money for repair either, and there wasn’t any chance. On the modernization of these few cash Mig-ah had only to dream. At that time, the planes were aging and went into complete flight disrepair. The management of the MiG company made several offers in various options and price terms. Unfortunately, the economic crisis did not allow the Bulgarian side to accept any of them. There was also a political background, so it was not possible to sign a contract. According to the available public information, it can be understood that, ultimately, the repair contract will be signed with the Polish State Military Factories WZL-2 and WZL-4 on conditions that are exceptionally favorable for the Bulgarian side. These companies have been repairing the Polish MiGs for many years, so they have proven experience. The repair conditions included all the necessary steps for the restoration of Migah and the subsequent discussion of these machines. As for the price component of this contract, the details were not disclosed. It is known that the Polish side agreed to very competitive prices and conditions. In view of the tight restrictions in the Bulgarian military budget, this was the main reason for choosing the Polish company. The good news is that, despite all the difficulties, MiGs will remain in service and Bulgarian pilots will use beautiful cars.
    1. kotvov 29 August 2015 18: 59 New
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      on-duty Bulgarianophobia fomented to faint, ,,
      and how did you expect our community to belong to your freaks. Bulgaria itself entered the NATO block, which is hostile to Russia. They decided to repair the Poles, believing that it was cheaper. The flag was in your hands, just don’t talk about friendship with Russia. The country passed to a hostile camp, it becomes an enemy for us. apparently fate.
      1. pytar 29 August 2015 19: 40 New
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        Here you are definitely confirming the fact that "the on-duty Bulgarianophobes got into a swoon." In truth, most of them are trolls, it’s clear who paid ... An information war is being waged in uncharted hitherto uncharted. No matter how hard the adherents of the West try, nobody will succeed. Russian and Bulgarians, as were the fraternal peoples will be so!
        1. ODERVIT 29 August 2015 20: 16 New
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          Yes, there are no phobias. Forum users express the real attitude of the people of our country to other countries. Moreover, this opinion is not imposed and is not a product of propaganda, etc. ..... As for the friendship of peoples, it is for the most part an ideological burp of the past structure of our states.
          Bulgaria is not a friendly country, history cannot be corrected. Although the lost are sorry for the Christian.
          1. pytar 29 August 2015 23: 25 New
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            Get out of your delusions. Strongly litter the brain. I hope this helps you a little:

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTPA9M2HDTE
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnrA5HitnNw
        2. Andrey Skokovsky 29 August 2015 21: 13 New
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          ....... Russian and Bulgarians, as were the fraternal peoples will be so!

          Yes, we are not opposed to this concept, only Bulgaria as a state regularly makes absolutely “non-fraternal” body movements and Russia has some kind of constant problems from its brothers

          in my opinion, all of our "European brothers" are "Russian Europeans", they constantly repeat their relationship with Russia, but they will never give up their "civilized European"!

          you have the position of a primitive opportunist and today in Russia there is awareness of this fact at the mass level

          so excuse me, but you and not us form our attitude towards you
          and if you want a "brotherly relationship" then the actions must be appropriate
          ... a good person is not a profession ....
          1. pytar 29 August 2015 23: 29 New
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            so excuse me, but you and not us form our attitude towards you
            And I have the impression that your opinion is being formed from the outside, though somewhere to the west ... Here you have something from the place of events, so maybe sober up:
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTPA9M2HDTE
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnrA5HitnNw
            1. Gado 30 August 2015 01: 38 New
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              Brother, not all the hubs, but I don’t give a hint and write a tuk, a nyma smisl. American good deed svershikhova works and slip on and on Rusnazite, and sew. But sooner or later, a restart in relations between Russia and Bulgaria was firmly convinced of the comrade.
              1. pytar 30 August 2015 09: 55 New
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                Yes, telling me honestly, I’m not going to take anything away, why such a total might and they will get rid of the mosquito on Rusnazite. The nation is smart, the nation is great, but the sis ... think, let it go, not to the Kazvas. Kato sheep eat and eat madness bleat! That is promoted on the ima mozacit and we, ama Bulgarin se, have a lot of sense! More often, the restart is in a relationship, without any removal. But it’s quiet, Kato Vidzhdash Kakva is a huge masora of choir, they’re not looking and knowing, they are not looking and they are masala!
              2. andrewkor 30 August 2015 13: 44 New
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                Yes, you first need to clean your "elite", as well as ours.
              3. sa-zz 31 August 2015 06: 55 New
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                Write in Russian, a translator to help you ..
                1. pytar 31 August 2015 11: 00 New
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                  "Write in Russian, an interpreter to help you .." - Do not you think that the message in Bulgarian was not for you? I don’t need a translator. I know Russian well enough. If you need, look.
                  1. sa-zz 31 August 2015 14: 17 New
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                    This is not a PM, everyone reads and speaks out. You know Russian well, so write in Russian, and I will write in Bulgarian on the Bulgarian site.
                    And if specifically - for a hundred years the Bulgarians have not proved anything and have shown nothing but betrayals, a reset of relations can and will be (Russians always forgive everything - God ordered), I speak for myself, but betrayed once - betray again.
                    I have nothing more to say to you. Dauzhidane.
          2. soratnik 31 August 2015 11: 52 New
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            I don’t understand why we are always looking for some mythical fraternal peoples ?! No fraternal peoples !!! There are states and peoples who want to survive! There are "elites" of these states who want to live comfortably! And all these creatures want to survive at someone else's expense. Preferably at our expense! Were not the Ukrainians our brothers ?! What did we get ?! Belarusians are “our brothers”, but as soon as the result of the counter sanctions announced by us, the Bulbash had the opportunity to cut cabbage at our expense, they immediately took this opportunity and drove smuggling across their border to us !!! There are no "fraternal peoples"; there are strong states and their vassals and Americans have long understood this. It `s naturally! This is human nature! Since man is essentially an animal too. Even between twin brothers there is a dominant one and one that is influenced by a stronger one! Forget this tale - "fraternal peoples" Learn the story. Everything is said there.
            1. pytar 31 August 2015 16: 27 New
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              "I don’t understand why we are always looking for some kind of mythical fraternal peoples? !!" - Not everyone is given the understanding of more elevated concepts. But about the "elites" you are right. You just need to make a difference between these "elites" and the nations. Almost all over the world, these are completely different things.
        3. excomandante 31 August 2015 12: 55 New
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          Miracle)))) "Paid trolls", it is necessary to declare this ... What, in Bulgaria everything is not so ambiguous? And the monuments to Soviet soldiers are not disfigured, and they are not involved in NATO’s anti-Russian exercises, and sanctions are not supported, and Obama's intimate places are not licked? And we don’t have any special “Bulgarianophobia”, there is a normal and understandable contempt for Uncle Sam’s sixes, at least for the Poles, even for the Bulgarians, even for the Balts, even for the Georgians, etc. "Sauron has no partners, only six" (c).
        4. djqnbdjqnb 31 August 2015 19: 39 New
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          Quote: pytar
          Russian and Bulgarians, as were the fraternal peoples will be so!


          Dear Bulgarian friends! (I do not mean trolls, but true Bulgarians). Do not be offended by the excessive sharpness of my comrades, understand us too! It is very difficult for you to imagine how much dirt is being poured on our heads now during this information war! Sometimes, in hot weather, we offend people who should not be offended!
          And to my Russian comrades, let me remind you. During the Second World War there was such a case (I already wrote about this): Tsar Boris built his best regiment and said: “who will shoot at Russians, three steps forward! Who will not shoot at Russians, stay where you are !. I promise anyone Nothing will happen". And he ordered: "Regiment, three steps forward!" All as one officers left, all as one soldiers remained standing still.
          And it seems to me that these words with pain are written precisely by those who would remain then to stand still. So why do we offend THESE people !! Do not confuse politicians with normal people!
          Remember how Hungarians, Romanians, even Polish and Slovak units fought with us! And after the war they became "friends"!
          But the Bulgarians - did not fight!
          1. pytar 31 August 2015 22: 11 New
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            Thank you friend! Respect! hi We all need to understand that a full-fledged information war is indeed being waged! Against Russia and against all Slavism. It has been going on for a long time. Also, I personally want to apologize if I offended someone else. As you said, during WWII, the Bulgarians did not fight against the Soviet Union. They fought against Germany. Moreover, in a strategically important direction. But I don’t want to tell you about it. Speech about another. In the Bulgarian army who fought against Germany, there were a lot of volunteers. More than 30-35% personnel. Somewhere 36 thousand. died. Among the volunteers was also one of my colleagues. In that war, an anti-personnel landmine had his leg stolen and he was disabled. He had several military awards. An old man before retirement, and then I was very young and was interested in what was there, as was the case in this war, etc. It is interesting, but he really did not like the communist ideology. He considered it a deception and erroneous for Bulgaria, since it took away private property. The USSR with its communist ideology did not like him at all. Once I asked him: "How so, whom you always did not like the Communists, went to fight along with the Soviet army, while a volunteer?" The answer was: "I hate this communist ideology! But I love Russia and Russians! They are our brothers! And not for the sake of the victory of communism I went to fight, but to help our forces, our Russian brothers!" Of course, at that time I knew little about politics, and there were other times. So here's what I’ll tell you! When Tsar Boris, after Hitler's steady insistence on the 42, announced a set of volunteers to be sent to the Eastern Front, only ... 76 people gathered! 76 people from all over Bulgaria! lol Yes, and yet, also did not go to the front. More than anything I do not have.