Korea: common fate and common rock

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The next crisis on the Korean Peninsula still has a chance to end in peace and mutual handshakes, after which both sides will retreat, saving face. Hours of negotiations lasting on Saturday and Sunday made it clear that no one really needed war, but both sides are in captivity of the established ideological attitudes, as well as of each leader’s personal background. And it is precisely this that is now a far greater threat than howitzers at the border. The current president of South Korea, Park Geun-hye, is the first female president of this country, part-time daughter of the legendary Pak Chon Hee, during whose reign the Korean economic miracle was launched. For the sake of political success, Park Geun-hye sacrificed personal happiness, and now she can get out of her father’s shadow only by doing something more outstanding. Such that will remain in the centuries and the memory of many generations, as the moment of the greatest triumph. What exactly, the card itself suggests: the unification of the country was the main national idea of ​​the Koreans on both sides of the 38 parallel for many decades.



Her opponent, Kim Jong-un, is also at the same ticklish position. After the failure of economic reforms and a frank simulation of turbulent activity, such as creating a unique time zone, he needs to strengthen his authority. He has no right to show weakness to the enemy, for such behavior would mean a loss of prestige within the country with the prospect of being overthrown, which in North Korean conditions is equivalent to a death sentence. Kim Jong-un is more likely to escalate, seeing her as the lesser of two evils.

However, it would be wrong to consider the probability of a direct armed conflict only through the prism of the personalities of the leaders. The world itself has changed. The collapse of state borders in Eastern Europe and the Middle East, coupled with the financial crisis and the fall in oil prices brought pre-storm anticipation into the world, which has now reached the Far East. Citizens of Kazakhstan and North Korea so long convinced that once the peninsula will be united, that now, in the suffocating atmosphere of the approaching war, it is enough for one of the leaders to declare that “the time has come”.

If the current conflict is somehow settled, then there is no guarantee that it will not break out again in five, ten or fifteen years. We will not touch upon the military details of a hypothetical collision, leaving them to be dismantled at the competent level of the Academy of the General Staff. We mention only a few obvious facts. The line of demarcation between North and South Korea is by and large not the border, but the front line. Over the decades, it has become a powerful fortified area, which neither side can storm without serious losses. Consequently, the strike will most likely be delivered to bypass the demilitarized zone by landing troops from the sea. Today, only one country in the world is capable of operating on such a scale - the United States of America. By the way, at the recent exercises, the South Korean and US military practiced just such a scenario, which caused the indignation of Pyongyang and all subsequent events.

Technically, South Korea is far superior to the DPRK. Measure the morale of the North Koreans is impossible, in addition, no one can prove that the South Koreans can not or do not want to fight. This is Asia and here any question becomes fundamental, any position is irreconcilable, with an appropriate level of cruelty on the battlefield and in the occupied territories. However, civil wars are terrible because they kill their own people with greater rapture than others.

If we talk about the main beneficiaries, then here first of all it is necessary to call the United States. Washington wins anyway. If the war does not start, then Seoul will only become more closely tied to the overlord. It will start - the US military-industrial complex will work well on supplies weapons, while China and Russia will have another source of problems under their nose. Creating a united Korea with its capital in Seoul is also quite in keeping with American interests. After all, the South Korean government has its deferred territorial claims to Russia (Noktundo) and to China, which own lands that were historically part of the Korean states. The positions of the united Korea will be much stronger than the two weakened fragments.



Russia will not defend the DPRK. China, apparently, too. Beijing has already shown that it does not want to get involved in a major conflict: during the recent border clashes with Burma, the leaders of the Middle Kingdom showed surprising restraint. Fighting for the DPRK, with which relations have badly deteriorated, Xi Jinping hardly dares. Japan will also stand aside, at best taking on transport support, as it was during the last Korean war. Tokyo here will present its arguments in the form of a Constitution and a complex historical heritage. In fact, the Land of the Rising Sun is not going to send its soldiers to recreate a direct geopolitical rival. And the invitation of the Japanese military to the peninsula will be a political suicide for any South Korean leader. Americans are another matter.

Russian interests on the peninsula are quite obvious. Although DPRK has been a client of Beijing for many decades, and not Moscow, for the Russian Federation the Kimov regime is a relatively calm and predictable neighbor. The war with its inevitable components (refugees, flights of crazy projectiles across the border, etc.), as well as the hypothetical appearance on our borders of a new subject, developed economically and militarily, does not bode well. Therefore, the peacekeeping statements of the Russian Foreign Ministry are quite explicable. Another interesting point is that both Koreans have a significant proportion of Soviet and Russian military equipment in service. In the DPRK, it is, of course, much higher, but there are several dozen of the Republic of Korea too, such is the T-80 and BMP-3.

Returning to the current situation in the region, it can be stated that the negotiations between the two sides ended precisely with what they should have been and did not bring any surprises. Perhaps it is for the better, since a predictable opponent is always better than an unpredictable one.
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  1. +3
    24 August 2015 06: 24
    Russia will not defend the DPRK. China, apparently, too...And the meaning ..
    1. +5
      24 August 2015 06: 31
      Some believe that Russia should protect, oddly enough. By the way, the news about the failure of the negotiations just arrived, and the article was written yesterday.

      I was right again hi

      Seems like South Korea wants war belay
      1. +9
        24 August 2015 07: 10
        Quote: Kibalchish
        Seems like South Korea wants war

        Why is South Korea a warrior? They live in chocolate, but the north, in addition to the last and only pants, has nothing to lose.
        1. +6
          24 August 2015 07: 18
          That's just the point, that in chocolate! When you are poor, you want to break out of poverty. When you are rich, you want adventure. South Korea in the current border has come to its limit. Either it begins to expand, or is doomed to decline. Law of nature.
          1. +4
            24 August 2015 07: 28
            Quote: Kibalchish
            ! When you are poor, you want to break out of poverty.

            Robbing the Bank of South Korea laughing
            Quote: Kibalchish
            When you are rich, you want adventure

            Sea, sun, cognac, girls ........ fuck me a warrior.
            Quote: Kibalchish
            . South Korea in the current border has come to its limit.

            In what?
            Quote: Kibalchish
            Either it begins to expand, or is doomed to decline. Law of nature.

            Why is such a strange conclusion?
            1. 0
              24 August 2015 07: 42
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              Robbing the Bank of South Korea


              The whole country will begin to rob its own banks wassat I don’t drink so much winked

              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              Sea, sun, cognac, girls ........ fuck me a warrior.


              If we are not talking about politicians who themselves will not go to the trenches, then there are ordinary people who like such adventures.

              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              In what?


              Elementary. Markets are all conquered. And here at hand 23 million who do not have the most necessary. Can you imagine how this will launch the economy of the South Caucasus?

              In addition, the UK has natural resources.

              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              Why is such a strange conclusion?



              Nothing strange. In addition to economic goals, no one has canceled moral goals. Man by nature is a conqueror of new horizons.
              1. +1
                24 August 2015 07: 59
                Quote: Kibalchish
                The whole country will begin to rob its own banks

                Why North Koreans have nothing to do with the southern banks. But even if you think, remove the protection from our banks and open the safes, the crowds will run to rob them laughing
                Quote: Kibalchish
                , that is, ordinary people who like such adventures.

                I haven’t met, I haven’t seen. And if there is, until the first explosion in 30 meters from the trench. Then it stops like.
                Quote: Kibalchish
                Markets are all conquered. And here at hand 23 million who do not have the most necessary.

                Aha, and these 23 million do not want to have Galaxy or Aifon is 23 million hungry, which will need to be fed.
                Quote: Kibalchish
                In addition, the UK has natural resources.

                Can you imagine the standard of living in South Korea?
                Quote: Kibalchish
                In addition to economic goals, no one has canceled moral goals. Man by nature is a conqueror of new horizons.

                What is the year when South Korea began the warriors?
                1. +1
                  24 August 2015 08: 29
                  Quote: Alexander Romanov
                  Why North Koreans have nothing to do with the southern banks. But even if you think, remove the protection from our banks and open the safes, the crowds will run to rob them


                  What does the North Koreans have to do with it, if we talk about the motivating reasons for southern

                  Quote: Alexander Romanov
                  I haven’t met, I haven’t seen. And if there is, until the first explosion in 30 meters from the trench. Then it stops like.


                  In the Donbass, volunteers from the Russian Federation are fully at war. And there are many of them in other nations. Passionaries.

                  Quote: Alexander Romanov
                  Can you imagine the standard of living in South Korea?


                  I can imagine it well, because I’m watching Korean films, and I’m very interested in news from this country. But how this is consistent with the need for the North Korean market and resources from your point of view - I can’t imagine.

                  Quote: Alexander Romanov
                  Aha, and these 23 million do not want to have Galaxy or Aifon is 23 million hungry, which will need to be fed.


                  What are Galaxy ??? For them, a banal microwave, color TV and a simple mobile phone with a monochrome screen will already be like a miracle. wink
                  1. 0
                    24 August 2015 09: 10
                    Quote: Kibalchish
                    What does the North Koreans have to do with it, if we talk about the motivating reasons for the South

                    And why the heck are southerners robbing North Korean banks in which there is no nichrome?
                    Quote: Kibalchish
                    In Donbass volunteers from the Russian Federation are completely at war

                    There is already a warrior.
                    Quote: Kibalchish
                    But how this is consistent with the need for the North Korean market and resources from your point of view - I can’t imagine.

                    And what can be sold on the North Kereiski market, do you know what salaries Kimovskys have?
                    Something I have not heard about the needs of South Korea, although if you sit and think of a reason, then you can always Nati.
                    Quote: Kibalchish
                    For them, a banal microwave, color TV and a simple mobile phone with a monochrome screen - will already be like a miracle

                    It’s normal for them to devour a miracle.
                    1. +2
                      24 August 2015 09: 30
                      Quote: Alexander Romanov
                      And why the heck are southerners robbing North Korean banks in which there is no nichrome?


                      ??

                      Quote: Alexander Romanov
                      There is already a warrior.


                      The first volunteers went when there was no war.


                      Quote: Alexander Romanov
                      And what can be sold on the North Kereiski market, do you know what salaries Kimovskys have?
                      Something I have not heard about the needs of South Korea, although if you sit and think of a reason, then you can always Nati.


                      In China, the population also first plowed for a cup of rice, but now they live in big cities very well.
                      If the South Caucasus conquers the DPRK, then integration will lead to an increase in orders for the South Caucasus industry and an increase in salaries in the UK, where living standards will begin to be adjusted for the southern indicator. There will be money - there will also be needs.
        2. +8
          24 August 2015 07: 21
          Southerners are vassals, I do not wonder if the USA is setting fire to dry brushwood. Time passes, the country's economy is degrading, each new day brings the country closer to the point of no return, they urgently need a war to expel the inevitable. In Ukraine, the fire is spreading sluggishly, they seem to have prepared everything there for the necessary "power" of the mess, but it is not a fact that it will justify them, because Ukrainians (not Ukrainians) are very unreliable. Therefore, they create a second possible springboard for the theater of military operations, here, on the Korean peninsula, the chance of a fire is great, and the intensity of combustion is very high.

          PS It’s not in vain, all this bucha between the Koreans arose after the arrival of the USA to train
        3. +4
          24 August 2015 09: 05
          Well, let's see the facts. The Republic of Kazakhstan conducts exercises 4-5 times more often than the DPRK, and the theme of these exercises is by no means reduced to repelling a North Korean attack. At the 2013 Key Resolve exercises, a pre-emptive strike against North Korea was practiced, and the number of participants in the exercises was 80 thousand; similar exercises in 2012 involved 100 thousand, and the capture of the entire territory of North Korea after the collapse of the regime was worked out. During the exercises in March 2012, in which 10 thousand American marines took part, landing assaults on key North facilities were practiced.
          The Toksuri exercise (2013) was attended by 200 thousand people (one third of the entire South Korean army).
          Now it’s almost impossible to hide the mobilization and preparation of troops before the invasion, of course Pyongyang perceives such maneuvers as potential preparation for the invasion.
          The Fole Eagle joint US-South Korean exercise using a B-52 strategic bomber March 19, 2013.
          “This morning, a B-52 bomber flew from Anderson's air base on Guam, which arrived after four hours of flight to the Korean Peninsula. In the area around noon, local time, testing was carried out for delivering missile and bomb strikes against targets. After that, the car went back to the base on the island of Guam, ”an officer of the local military department said on condition of anonymity by the South Korean media. The source explained that the B-52 simulated attacks on targets that were placed at a training ground in Yongwol, Gangwon-do Province. “All goals were successfully hit,” the source said.
          http://globalconflict.ru/world-armies/14773-amerikanskij-strategicheskij-bombard
          irovshhik-imitiroval-udary-po-celyam-v-koree
          In 2011, the Republic of Kazakhstan conducted 13 military exercises, including the seizure of key facilities of North Korea was practiced. In September 2012, 540 thousand people, including civilians, took part in the regular exercises of the Republic of Kazakhstan, for example: at one time the maneuvers of the ATS countries in Europe with the participation of 10-15 thousand people were considered large and potentially dangerous.
          So do not want a war that regularly work out it? And what kind of reaction should the DPRK leadership have to take such actions?
      2. +1
        24 August 2015 07: 45
        Kibalchish "Some people think that Russia should protect, oddly enough."
        It's strange how you reason. From your article it is clear that if South Korea breaks North, then it will expand and present us with a claim to our Primorye. How can we not help the North?))) You probably have a kind of logic.))) But in fact this section is beneficial to us.)))) Let us help South Korea to destroy the DPRK and get hemorrhoids with claims, albeit hypothetical ones. Although you know. The DPRK leadership also has dreams of returning the lands that were once part of Korea. And from them, too, we can expect claims in the future. It's just that they don’t dream of how southern they are.))) And this is also normal. Everyone is dreaming. But the partition of Korea is essentially beneficial to us, and this is also normal. After the victory, any of the victorious parties in Korea will look beyond its current borders and strive for expansion. This must be understood by dear analytegs.))) And we need to be STRONG both economically and in the military sphere and any others. Hunters will be weak; we will find our lands. Hmm ... the truth is, while Japan has prospects for making claims to us by Korean neighbors ... this is a very distant prospect.
        1. 0
          24 August 2015 07: 56
          Quote: Nagaibak
          It's strange how you reason. From your article it is clear that if South Korea breaks North, then it will expand and present us with a claim to our Primorye. How can we not help the North?))) You probably have a kind of logic.)))


          The logic is not what is desirable or not desirable for us. And in what there are opportunities.
      3. +2
        24 August 2015 08: 05
        Seems like South Korea wants war.. It seems the United States wants this war .. Russia and China to get involved in this war on the side of the DPRK, it makes no sense .. But the war between the Koreans is not needed .. But the United States instability on the borders of Russia and China is simply necessary ..
    2. +1
      24 August 2015 07: 15
      the PRC has an alliance on mutual military assistance and defense, so that in cases of aggravation, the PRC will be the first to attack, plus some military agreements on "support and mutual assistance" have been concluded between the DPRK and the Russian Federation.

      Plus, the weakening or disappearance of the DPRK will mean the strengthening of the role of the United States in Asia as a whole, and given the new course of the Russian Federation and the new Chinese concept of development, it will be unprofitable, to put it mildly. The Russian Federation is that it will be in a military grip, while the PRC will intensify economic competition from the United States. One can not speak about the change in the political balance in the region.

      So you shouldn't be talking about "... but the meaning ...".
      1. +1
        24 August 2015 07: 20
        There is a contract. But it provides assistance if North Korea will be attacked. If Kim is the first to start naughty across the border, then he is a doctor to himself.

        I would temporarily exclude Russia from the list of players in the East. She will soon have her own war. And also for the unification of the country.
        1. +3
          24 August 2015 07: 25
          And do you think that the northerners will be so stupid that they will go on the attack first to lose the advantage of an alliance with the PRC?

          Even if the DPRK attacks first, the PRC will still have to intervene to one degree or another and support its brothers in the regime, as too much will depend on this war. And in conditions of a possible confrontation from the West and the USA, any change in death that is negative for them is similar.

          As for the Russian Federation, I would not discount the war as a war, but the reputation is also very important. We will help the DPRK, but not military, though, who knows.
          1. -1
            24 August 2015 07: 30
            Quote: sanain
            And you think that the northerners will be so stupid that they will go on the attack first?

            By the way, they already walked in the middle of the last century.
            1. 0
              24 August 2015 13: 53
              Subtle hint that the mentality, just like their strategy does not change?

              Then I can safely say that the Russian army, as it was, takes in numbers, and of the latest technology they only have AK-47, ignoring all the reforms that have passed over the past decade.

              As for me, this approach is at least not competent.
              Yes, the DPRK has hot heads, but hot heads that do not want to lose power. Therefore, they are unlikely to go head-on.

          2. +2
            24 August 2015 07: 33
            Quote: sanain
            And you think that the northerners will be so stupid that they will go on the attack first?


            Absolutely not excluded.

            Quote: sanain
            Even if the DPRK attacks first, the PRC will still have to intervene to one degree or another and support its brothers in the regime


            To support is not to fight for them. A couple of months ago, the Burmese army had the audacity to get into the very territory of China. And Beijing even then did not start a war. And Kim ...

            Quote: sanain
            As for the Russian Federation, I would not discount the war as a war, but the reputation is also very important. We will help the DPRK, but not military, though, who knows.


            Since the DPRK took the Chinese side in the Sino-Soviet break, we owe nothing to North Korea. Although not, the Foreign Ministry may protest.
        2. +2
          24 August 2015 09: 57
          There is a contract. But it provides for assistance if they attack the DPRK. If Kim is the first to start naughty across the border, then he is a doctor to himself.


          Here the question is pretty delicate. Kimi otmazyvayutsya from a mine on which southerners blew up. And I, by the way, believe them, what for do they need it? Southerners were the first to join the information war. North Korea responds by destroying the loudspeakers, and Southerners are already starting to shoot at the defeat. With much desire, it can be said that the DPRK was attacked. The main thing is that there is a desire to engage the contract.
        3. 0
          24 August 2015 17: 17
          Quote: Kibalchish
          But it provides assistance if the DPRK is attacked.

          And what, the Chinese diplomats will not find the necessary arguments, if there is the will of the political bureau?
      2. 0
        24 August 2015 07: 29
        Quote: sanain
        the PRC has an alliance on mutual military assistance and defense, so that in cases of aggravation, the PRC will be the first to attack, plus some military agreements on "support and mutual assistance" have been concluded between the DPRK and the Russian Federation.

        Chinas will not go there, and Russia, too, Kim is a pain in the neck, which is already tired of everyone around.
        1. 0
          24 August 2015 10: 11
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Quote: sanain
          the PRC has an alliance on mutual military assistance and defense, so that in cases of aggravation, the PRC will be the first to attack, plus some military agreements on "support and mutual assistance" have been concluded between the DPRK and the Russian Federation.

          Chinas will not go there, and Russia, too, Kim is a pain in the neck, which is already tired of everyone around.

          Kim has bothered everyone a long time ago. Passed infa striped customize submarines with nuclear weapons to the South. If the south take North Korea, the striped ones will leave nuclear weapons there. China doesn’t need mattresses at China’s border on nuclear weapons. Minus not mine hi
        2. 0
          24 August 2015 12: 57
          Real criminals are in power in another state, America, if you have forgotten, Kim is just a child against them. Alien states are not bombed however.
        3. 0
          24 August 2015 14: 04
          I repeat, China has no choice. If not supported, the DPRK will sweep away the United States under the auspices of NATO. And if the DPRK falls, it will weaken the influence of the PRC and increase US influence in the region. And given the growing ambitions on the part of the PRC in the political and economic field, they do not need this. Therefore, help from them will, however, as from ours, but here, in what form it will be, is a question.
          1. -1
            24 August 2015 14: 25
            Quote: sanain
            Therefore, help from them will, however, as from ours, but here, in what form it will be, is a question.

            in the form of the next Chinese warning from the UN
      3. 0
        24 August 2015 08: 10
        So you shouldn't be talking about "... but the meaning ...". But the point is, Russia and China will get involved in a war .. Nobody will defeat South Korea .. Russia and China absolutely do not need this war ... I think that everything will be decided by the whole world ..
    3. +1
      24 August 2015 09: 53
      Russia will definitely not defend North Korea. China, apparently, also ... But the meaning ..


      Russia does not make sense. Because Kims are communists. At what - stubborn. GDP, like a true liberal, and even more so our oligarchs, will never give them a hand. But China is another matter. The Chinese Communism-capitalism on the drum. But the understanding that Korea is a springboard and the next will be themselves - they most likely have it.
      Given that China is a sponsor of the Kimovs, we can say that the tough stance taken by the DPRK is tough stance of China, which can also provoke a conflict to occupy all of Korea and move NATO airfields from its industrial centers.
  2. +3
    24 August 2015 06: 52
    A bunch of problems and costs with an unpredictable ending - and all this so that the kids can plug their dads in the belt. Hmm ... fool
  3. +1
    24 August 2015 07: 32
    That's all.
    London. 24 August. INTERFAX - South Korean President Park Geun-hye said that propaganda broadcasts against the North Korean authorities will continue if Pyongyang does not apologize for mines installed in the demilitarized zone.

    I really want to make a mistake, but something tells me that Kim will not apologize. Neither of the two countries needs war. But the States need vital war on foreign territory. And the more this territory will be, the better.
    1. 0
      24 August 2015 09: 59
      And why apologize if you didn’t put a mine? Apologizing - this means bending under the enemy. This is the first step to defeat.
      1. 0
        24 August 2015 17: 34
        Why are you sure you didn’t? How many times so far have the North Koreans planted mines, how many civilized japanese kidnapped on their reconnaissance ships disguised as fishing? The UK has done so many things that now I believe SK.
        1. 0
          24 August 2015 19: 34
          To begin with, the aggravation occurs against the backdrop of US-Korean exercises involving 50-80 thousand people. North Korea perceives these exercises as preparations for the invasion and requires their cancellation, Kazakhstan declares that it has every right to conduct exercises on its territory. The scope of the exercises (despite the fact that such large-scale ones are held annually) is very large; offensive actions.
          On August 4, 2015, two soldiers blew up a mine in the Demilitarized Zone. Initially (apparently based on the results of an on-site inspection) they declared North Korea not to be involved in the incident. It seems like the soldiers did not have a mine detector with them. The soldiers remained disabled.
          Question: What is the point of the DPRK to conduct a whole special operation to defeat as many as two (!!) soldiers?
          50/50 negligence or ordinary accident in an area crammed with mines.
          1. 0
            25 August 2015 00: 08
            And what is the point of taking out the portraits of Kimov from burning houses in the UK, and only then saving people? The ideological meaning is to write that the soldiers of the South Caucasus are so-and-so that they exploded on their mines. But now you can very accurately determine who made the explosives and where, even if they put it in a foreign mine.
            1. 0
              25 August 2015 08: 18
              Great logic, set because they are bad. Bad is supposed to do bad.
              North Korean media wrote about sloppiness in the ranks of the army of the Republic of Kazakhstan?
              I mean they put one (not minefield or mine ambush, one!) Mine in the whole area? Either these soldiers or the IRD would have removed it with the same success (I don’t know the tasks of the injured soldiers or the organization of the service, in Chechnya, for example, IRE checked regularly using roads from sappers and motorized rifles), or would have lain without attention for the next 50 years.
              In DMZ mines to hell, they put both sides in and after the war. 100% random blast.
  4. +1
    24 August 2015 09: 00
    Korean politicians need to learn only two things. While in a public office, to engage in their direct duties and not be distracted by any political problems. And still learn to speak the native Korean language. Then you can just discuss the problems and agree, rather than arrange provocations and shelling of border areas. What happened is called a failure in the work of Korean diplomacy on both sides and no formidable statements can compensate for the lack of qualifications of high-level politicians. Their stupidity and inability to work led to the possibility of a military conflict in which they die half of the population of the Korean Peninsula has increased significantly.
  5. 0
    24 August 2015 09: 26
    Interesting, and who whom all the same?
    1. +1
      24 August 2015 10: 00
      Interesting, and who whom all the same?


      Chinese Americans. And everyone else is in ruin. Although Kims may well survive, they are unpretentious.
  6. +1
    24 August 2015 11: 01
    Nothing will be there, as usual:
    North. Korea, as always, will confine itself to the most bellicose statements and once again threaten the United States with "weapons unknown to the world."
    South Korea, too, rattles along the borders, and that’s it.

    There are political balabolas on one side and the other, no one will have the guts to start a war. One needs it to keep the nation constantly united, in the face of an external enemy, so that confusion and reeling do not begin, and for others to get more money from the pandox.
    1. +2
      24 August 2015 13: 24
      Theoretically, yes, but practically the Americans can easily arrange a provocation on the border, a vile nation behind them will not rust.
      As a resident of Vladivostok, I want to add from myself that the South and North Koreans are great guys and the fact that the Atlantists chose them for geopolitical experiments is vile, they cut the people alive.
  7. 0
    24 August 2015 13: 59
    all this rotten mess: both mine and loudspeakers are American ideas.
    and on the "eastern front" there is even a more advantageous alignment than with Ukraine: Russia, China, Korea, Japan
    and themselves in chocolate
    "with little blood, on foreign territory" (c)
  8. +2
    24 August 2015 14: 18
    Yes, a funny picture is looming ... You’ll go to the left ... you will go to the right ... one pepper, you’ll lose everything .. In my opinion, the only way out is to convince the younger Kim to give up all this juche and go along the Chinese path, slowly and gradually rolling out reforms. In my opinion, all this kotovasia is pretty tired of him - he is only afraid of the opposition from the very stubborn. And here Russia can turn on, the horizons will be immense. And in exchange for help - loyalty against the Americans.
    1. 0
      24 August 2015 17: 46
      This is the best option of all, but Eunu to one place. Now he is collecting for his beloved personal harem artistic "troupe of pleasures". Monthly salary from $ 4к, despite the fact that per capita GDP is $ 1800 a year.
    2. 0
      24 August 2015 19: 34
      In my opinion, the only way out here is to convince (force) younger Kim to give up all this Juche and follow the Chinese way,


      They tried the North Koreans ... Did not work ...
      Did not work...
      Why
      Look at Poland, Russia, Belarus and Ukraine today
      And like the Slavs, socialism at the start, however ..
    3. 0
      25 August 2015 00: 37
      The DPRK has only one path - unification. They themselves will not do anything, there is no Chinese way for them, time has passed and the backlog in engineering and technology is more than half a century.
  9. 0
    24 August 2015 19: 23
    Over the decades, it has become a powerful fortified area, which neither side can storm without serious losses. Consequently, the strike will most likely be delivered around the demilitarized zone by landing troops from the sea.
    By the way, at the recent exercises, the South Korean and US military practiced just such a scenario, which caused the indignation of Pyongyang and all subsequent events.


    This is it !!
    Why conduct such exercises?
    Meaning? With Korea, a large landing will not be able to land.
    Butt on the border? What's so fatal?
    United States swinging the situation unequivocally.
  10. 0
    24 August 2015 19: 31
    Russia will not defend the DPRK. China, apparently, too.


    Both Russia and China have their own interests in this region.
    And they can not merge them like this.
    Americans understand this.
    So it's NOT in the DPRK

    There is a line of demarcation - recognized by all - where did the reason for the conflict appear?
    And vdrukk - Matahalniki
    And Comrade Eun can not let shout at himself every American henchmen ..
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      25 August 2015 00: 41
      Comrade Eun needs 22 million people to explain that the whole world is against them, so such a meager life. In fact, an absolutely backward and uncompetitive state can only saber with arms. But this is an internal (DPRK) policy, not an external one. There will be no war, of course. Kim, maybe, but not a suicide.
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        25 August 2015 08: 23
        Well, yes, from 1993-1994, the United States redirected ICBMs with nuclear warheads from the USSR to the DPRK, as the head of the U.S. Air Force stated, being crushed by sanctions, regularly conducting exercises of unprecedented scale with processing, including offensive missions. What are the barriers to competition? Of course not!
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          25 August 2015 10: 26
          How does targeting missiles hinder building a competitive economy? How do you know where Amer’s warheads are actually aimed? If your city, it greatly affects your life?
          Doctrines at hand? So, having such a militarized neighbor as the DPRK, the South must be in good shape, is it enough?
          What is one trademark from North Korea whose products you use in everyday life? And from South Korea? What else do you need to know about a competitive economy? One land, one people, different government. That's all.
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            25 August 2015 11: 35
            That is, do you think the need to increase military spending does not affect the economy in any way? Even as it affects. Recent examples are Iraq (a noose for Hussein) and Libya (a dagger in the ass for Gaddafi). How can a competitive economy be built if North Korean accounts are frozen on far-fetched charges, or simply not carried out? Should US authorities take action against companies and individuals related to North Korea?
            Do not replace the concept. The conditions for the existence of countries are completely different, until the beginning of the 90s, both countries developed identically.
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              25 August 2015 18: 07
              The militarization of the economy is the conscious choice of the DPRK. Only by turning the whole country into one large military unit (and zone) they can hold their own population in their hands - this is obvious. Open the DPRK borders - people will run skipping, because not everyone is ready to live behind the barbed wire.
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                25 August 2015 18: 15
                This does not require nuclear weapons, delivery vehicles, a large peacetime army and a large number of conventional weapons, it is enough to strengthen the police and explosives with LMEs and light weapons. Naturally, this is a conscious choice, what else to choose if, for 2 months, annually military exercises of unprecedented scale are held at your borders?
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    24 August 2015 21: 05
    Korea does not want war, neither north nor south.
    War want the mattresses.
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    24 August 2015 21: 52
    But they won’t fight! By the way, in the photo are awesome welded mounts for rifle mounts. This is a military thought! Probably shot at landmarks lol
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    24 August 2015 22: 10
    Quote: Kibalchish
    that is, ordinary people who like such adventures.

    And a lot of such people? And among them there are those who make decisions?

    Quote: sanain
    the PRC has an alliance on mutual military assistance and defense, so that in cases of aggravation, the PRC will be the first to attack, plus some military agreements on "support and mutual assistance" have been concluded between the DPRK and the Russian Federation.

    The agreement between the DPRK and the PRC is valid and is prolonged every 20 years. But the latest events at the beginning of the year, when Chinese nuclear weapons experts turned to their American colleagues with concern over the increase in their nuclear arsenal, indicate that relations between the DPRK and the PRC have begun to cool. And not the fact that China will stand up for the DPRK.

    As for the Russian-North Korean treaty, concluded at the beginning of 2000, in it, unlike the 1961 treaty no mention of mutual assistance in case of aggression against one of the parties
    So Russia will not "fit" for North Korea, if anything

    Quote: keel 31
    Kim has bothered everyone a long time ago. Passed infa striped customize submarines with nuclear weapons to the South. If the south take North Korea, the striped ones will leave nuclear weapons there. China doesn’t need mattresses at China’s border on nuclear weapons. Minus not mine

    An interesting phrase. Did you understand what you wrote yourself? The Americans are urging on a boat with nuclear weapons, with the Tridents. The Americans will leave it there anyway (and it's nonsense that there is no infrastructure for the Ohio base. And it will be on our borders
    Explain to me, what is the significant difference between the hypothetical base of the American boat and the fact that it can patrol outside the territorial waters of South Korea, periodically leaving for the base in Japan?
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    25 August 2015 00: 32
    China merges the northern. So we will see a united Korea in the perspective of the next 10 years. The concentration camp country is not viable, and here a rich sibling is at hand. Without the Chinese feed and dough, the DPRK would have long stretched its legs, so what happens is what happens: cannibalistic regimes in the XNUMXst century have no place.
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      25 August 2015 08: 27
      It is interesting, but if any country is placed in the conditions of the DPRK's existence, how successful will it be?
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        25 August 2015 10: 18
        The DPRK deliberately placed itself in such conditions. For "communism" can exist only behind the Iron Curtain - it cannot withstand competition with the free world. By the way, could you name at least one more country that exists in "such" conditions?
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          25 August 2015 10: 34
          How? What could (and still can) threaten the DPRK of the USA in the beginning of the 90s? Even formally, no nuclear weapons, no delivery vehicles. Who is threatened by a poor country whose entire state budget is equal to the military budget of South Korea?
          There are no such countries because the real reason for the sanctions against the DPRK is to have a reason to strengthen the military presence in the South Asian region, and the real goal of the United States and its allies is China.
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            25 August 2015 18: 11
            and the DPRK of the USA does not threaten anything, for it cannot. So, the troll from time to time, extorting handouts. All this saber rattling is more of the DPRK’s domestic rather than foreign policy.
            I’ll remind you of Vietnam on the second question. Which is also not weak at all and is developing well. And all that was worth it was to put the economy on a market rather than mobilization track. Remain unconvinced - look around for the bloody hand of the State Department, but we will soon see Korea united, as well as Germany. Without the Chinese content, the DPRK is not viable.
            And China is not at all an ally of the states in the Asia-Pacific region, it has its own interests and the South China Sea, it considers its internal, and they have regular graters with mattresses on this issue.
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              25 August 2015 18: 40
              At the borders of Vietnam, no one has been playing a war for 2 months every year, no sanctions are being imposed against Vietnam, and fables are not invented about Cheong Tan Sang. Vietnam does not need to maintain a large peacetime army and without fail to produce its own samples of the main types of weapons. Completely different development conditions and, accordingly, a different result.
              Namely, it does not threaten anything, but the United States and the Republic of Kazakhstan spend billions of dollars to maintain a large military group (in wartime (from 2001, before that in peacetime too) the army of the Republic of Kazakhstan submits to the American command) - why?

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