In the Ground Forces of the Russian Federation will arrive armored vehicles "Scorpion LSHA-2B"

Sergey Starun, General Director of the Zashchita Corporation, said that the Scorpion LSHA-2B would enter the Ground Forces of the Russian Federation.

"A contract was concluded with the Ministry of Defense for the supply of troops to the experimental-industrial batch of army armored vehicles" Scorpion LSHA-2B ", - quotes him "Military Industrial Courier".

The CEO noted that the talk is about several dozen units. According to him, in April 2015, the army of armored vehicles of the Scorpion series were adopted by the special forces units of the Russian army.

"At the moment, state tests passed" Scorpion LSHA-1 "(LSHA - light assault vehicle) with an open top (awning)," Scorpion LSHA-2 "with a hard metal top, as well as an armored vehicle" SCORPIO LSHA-2B ", - added he.

Starun noted that the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Russian Federation was interested in the unarmored "Scorpions", not excluding that the contract for their delivery to the department could be signed before the end of 2015.

“Last summer, the armored Scorpion LSHA-2B, as part of 15, of promising samples of military vehicles was successfully tested in heat-desert, sandy and mountainous areas in the Astrakhan region and in Kabardino-Balkaria. The total length of the test route was approximately 4200 km, ”he said.

The Scorpion LShA armored car with 4.5-5 t mass is equipped with a diesel power unit with 166 hp power, which allows to reach speeds up to 130 km / h. It is equipped with a rifle protection weapons 6 class and explosive devices with power up to 600 grams in TNT. Also provided for the installation of machine guns "Kord", KPVT, grenade launcher "Flame" and other weapons.

Comments

[Hikar]

What about tigers? After all, the armored car "Scorpion LSHA-2B" is a car of the same category, correct if I am mistaken

[Cosmos1987]

Tiger, Wolf, Bear, Typhoon, Shot, Vodnik, and here also Scorpio appeared, here, as they say, without half a liter and you can’t figure out what's what)

[GOgaRu]

For me so wolf

enough with scorpio

[AlNikolaich]

In principle, Scorpio is smaller and lighter. Rather, it is an armored UAZ. Confuses otherwise!
They also announced Ansyr, the Wolf ... Isn't the park too varied? What is the unification of these
cars with civilian cars? What will happen to the material and technical base? What about rembase?
And more questions!

[gla172]

So also Lynx is semi Italian ....

[Bayonet]

Quote: gla172

So also Lynx is semi Italian ....

But this one - purebred, shot last year in Italy

[Simon]

Since machines are being adopted by our troops, then questions will be solved with material and technical support and .

[Bayonet]

Quote: Hnikar

What about tigers? After all, the armored car "Scorpion LSHA-2B" is a car of the same category, correct if I am mistaken

The tiger is a heavier car, the gross weight is 7600 (SPM-2). Scorpio - 5000 kg. In addition, Scorpio has several modifications - from unarmored to armored in class 6a.
TTX SCORPION:

Wheel formula 4 × 4
Armament on the prototype was a machine gun "Pecheneg" caliber 7,62.
Crew 5-8 people depending on modification
Ground clearance 300 mm
5000 kg weight
Speed ​​130 km / h
Power reserve 1000 km
Length 5,19 m
Width 2,15 m
Height 2,06 m
TTX TIGER:

Length: 5700 mm
Width: 2300 mm
Height: 2300 mm
Clearance: 400 mm
Wheelbase: 3300 mm
Track back: 1840 mm
Front track: 1840 mm
Weight: 6400 kg
Gross weight: 7600 (SPM-2)

[SRC P-15]

“An agreement has been concluded with the Ministry of Defense for the supply to the troops of the experimental industrial batch of army armored vehicles“ Scorpion LSHA-2B ”

In the army, for the abbreviation "LSHA", this armored vehicle (if it reaches the troops) can be affectionately called "Losharik". And if the car is unsuccessful, then "Horse".

[RBLip]

Quote: СРЦ П-15

In the army, for the abbreviation "LSHA", this armored vehicle (if it reaches the troops) can be affectionately called "Losharik". And if the car is unsuccessful, then "Horse".

and if completely unsuccessful then "Donkey" ...

[Bayonet]

Quote: СРЦ П-15

affectionately can be called "Losharik".

Nothing to yourself!

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: Hnikar

What about tigers?

But nothing

[CRONOS]

These are old modifications of tigers with a Cumminsky 210-strong engine. Tiger-m and its modifications are available.

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: CRONOS

Tiger-m and its modifications are available.

Give a link?

[Bayonet]

Serial production of Tiger cars was organized at the Arzamas Machine-Building Plant (AMZ), where it continues to this day. At the Gorky Automobile Plant, Tiger cars are no longer produced.
Currently, the AMZ OJSC (part of the management perimeter of the Military Industrial Company LLC) is mass-produced the following Tiger car models:

GAZ-233034 - SPM-1 "Tiger" ballistic protection level according to 3 class;
GAZ-233036 - SPM-2 "Tiger" ballistic protection level according to 5 class;
GAZ-233014 "Tiger" - an army version of an armored car;
KShM R-145BMA "Tiger" - command and staff vehicle;
GAZ-233001 "Tiger" - an all-terrain vehicle in an unarmored five-door hull.
http://dokwar.ru/publ/vooruzhenie/bronetekhnika/bronevik_tigr_gaz_2330/13-1-0-34
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[gjv]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

link

18.08.2015
In the mountain motorized rifle brigade of the Central Military District (CVO), more than 30 units of special-purpose armored vehicles “Tiger-M SpN.
Reportedly, at the moment, military personnel of the mountain brigade practice driving in equipment, and in September they will have to complete a number of combat training tasks at combined arms training centers of the Central Military District.
According to the press service, these vehicles are designed for reconnaissance, escort and guard of columns, patrolling and fire support units.
“In addition, the armored car is equipped with a system for automatically regulating the air pressure in the tires, an automatic fire extinguishing system, a pre-heater and a self-extracting winch,” the report said.
It is reported that the modernized Tiger has a 5 class ballistic protection in the frontal and 3 class in the side and aft projections. A special communication system was installed inside, on the roof there was a rotary turret for installing Kord machine guns of 12,7 mm caliber, Pecheneg 7,62 mm caliber, 30 mm automatic flame grenade launcher Flame.

http://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/66349/

[gjv]

Quote: Hnikar

armored car "Scorpion LSHA-2B"

Armored car "Scorpion LSHA-2B" ("Scorpion-193134") developed by ZAO "Corporation" Zashchita "(c) ru.autowp.ru

Armored vehicle "Scorpion LSHA-2B" ("Scorpion-193134") developed by ZAO Corporation "Zashchita" during a demonstration at the General Staff of the Russian Airborne Forces. Moscow, 04.06.2014 (c) ZAO Corporation "Zashchita"

[Tjeck]

So much for import substitution .. Military vehicles on American wheels (discover stt) ?!

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

I just don’t understand why we went along the NATO route, instead of a closed tower, like on an armored personnel carrier or MTLB, started making crazy cars with an open machine gunner? Yes, he is dead !!! These guards will not save him !!! The tower must be completely closed !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[subbtin.725]

Aggressive and very helpful fellow.

[avt]

Quote: subbtin.725

Aggressive and very helpful fellow.

What is aggressive? What is the word "assault" in the name of this tartayka? What is again useful? For those who will be looking for "specific tasks" for nago, to get the dough from the budget?

Quote: AlNikolaich

They also announced Ansyr, the Wolf ... Isn't the park too varied?

Played in cars and already vtyuhivayut some collector.

Quote: SAM 5

These armored cars began to rivet something, to whom not laziness. Fashion went to them or what?

Fashion has long gone to cut the dough according to the principle voiced by another of the founders of a large Japanese corporation, I do not remember exactly, but it seems Sonya. So he told his employees that selling the right thing to the buyer is not difficult, you say sell it to him as an absolutely necessary, completely useless thing.

[gjv]

Quote: avt

sell it to him as an absolutely necessary, completely useless thing

Based on wish. Seen much earlier than the founding of Sonya.

Since people's desires are often insatiable, they want to have in abundance not only useful and necessary things, but also pleasant, useless things. (Jean Boden, 1529 - 1596, French politician, philosopher, economist, lawyer, Member of Parliament of Paris and professor of law in Toulouse. Many researchers consider the founder of the science of politics because of his theory of "state sovereignty."

[SAM 5]

These armored cars began to rivet something, to whom not laziness. Fashion went to them or what?

[Simon]

So they can put heavy machine guns on them and are convenient for reconnaissance and infantry, since they are very mobile, that is, they can be quickly transferred to any battlefield, and can also be used to protect certain objects.

[donavi49]

Well, modern armies now have 100% rearmament on such combat vehicles. There, the emirates are now Taiz recaptured and go to Sana'a in Yemen. The last ordinary rides here in such cars. Some Husits ​​are already saddling.

[CRONOS]

Tiger
Bear
Wolf
Hummock
Kamaz-K
Kamaz shot
Scorpio
The Punisher (Zil)
And much more .... another zoo and headache rem. workshops with suppliers. I don’t understand why you can’t release a single 4x4 armored car? Mine, with protection level 3 ballistics and the ability to hang extra. ceramic plates before protection 6A ?!
But this armored car is more for security and patrol purposes, transportation of VIPs, encashment but not army at all. 600 grams under the wheel is not serious, and how is it more profitable than a tiger then? Yes, and with the Polish licensed engine for .... 166 horses =))

[Letun]

Quote: CRONOS

Yes, and with the Polish licensed engine for .... 166 horses =))

166 horses for 5 tons ... This is the same power density as a tank. What nonsense? I wonder who gave the terms of reference for such a "charged" car?

[CRONOS]

He is also not omnivorous, like a tiger. And with a small diameter Kolesikoff, as in civilian cars.

[Siberia 9444]

Yes, it’s not a matter of horsepower but the torque of the gear-thrower and the gear ratio of the transmission For example, the KAMAZ D 740 engine is 210 hp (not turbo), but the torque is 667 Nm - for passenger cars more and what kind of cars for motorcycles are 136 hp BUT they will not be taken away and weigh less than 12-15 tons!

[CRONOS]

You have denied yourself by comparing a truck and an armored jeep. The engine on it is a Polish license. as I understand it, 166 is a turbo version of the 136 hp engine There is no torque there, like an elephant

[Siberia 9444]

I did not compare neither the truck nor the armor! but only hp and the turbine has nothing to do with it (although the latter can add 20-30% of power) and even the manufacturer !!!!!!!!!!!!! And I did not refute myself - just ordinary mechanics

[CRONOS]

We discussed an article from a private office with Polish Andoria on the hood, in which there is no cr. moment as in the KAMAZ quoted by you. WELL DOESN'T IT PUSH UP. And do not throw cons.

[Siberia 9444]

I didn’t put you cons, but he will pull it anyway, so I can assume that it’s worth lowering there! You may have discussed the craft, I gave a simple example, and then it’s not for you but Letun for hp, and if you don’t understand basic things in technology, then forgive me more for dialogue with you on this issue I won’t let forum users judge

[Professor]

It is equipped with protection against bullets of small arms of class 6 and explosive devices with a capacity of up to 600 grams of TNT.

Armored version: protection class 5 (optional 6A) according to GOST R 50963–96.

Specifications Scorpio - LSHA:
Length, m - 4,503
Width, m - 2,05
Height (during transportation), m - 2,09 (1,5)
Base, m - 3,023
Track, m - 1,702
Gross weight, kg - 3000
Curb weight (kg) - 2485
Payload, kg - 1015
Number of seats - 2 + 6
Engine type - diesel
Power, kW (h.p.) - 100 (136)
Wheel formula - 4x4
Operating temperature - from -45 ° to + 50 °
Rise - 30 °
Kosogor - 20 °
Brod, m - 0,7
Suspension - independent, with shock absorbers and anti-roll bar
Gearbox - manual, 5-speed
Transfer box - 2-speed
Body type - three-door, with soft folding top on the frame, unarmored
The folding frame provides transportation in the Mi-8 helicopter.
Basic equipment
Mounts for installing additional equipment
Power steering
Awning (included)
Self Pull Winch
Front and rear tow hooks
Full size spare tire
Additional options
BIUS - combat information management system
Navigation system
Engine compartment fire extinguishing system
Hard top to replace the awning
Air conditioning (hard top)
Filtering unit
Skylight
Hinged windshield
Warp coloring

PS
Sale Armored car Scorpion LSHA B by phone: [phone]

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: professor

Sale Armored car Scorpion LSHA B by phone: [phone]

A hamera do not sell?

[Bayonet]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

A hamera do not sell?

This is not a problem, there would be money
This is only a small part!

[Shiva83483]

More "carts" in the troops, all sorts, and different ....

[Tanais]

Quote: Shiva83483

More "carts" in the troops, all sorts, and different ....

Quote: AlNikolaich

In principle, Scorpio is smaller and lighter. Rather, it is an armored UAZ. Confuses otherwise!
They also announced Ansyr, the Wolf ... Isn't the park too varied? What is the unification of these
cars with civilian cars? What will happen to the material and technical base? What about rembase?
And more questions!

At one time, in the boundless directions of the USSR, the fascist Wehrmacht faced the problem of excessive "variegation" of its vehicle fleet. Problems of unification, maintenance and so on ...

And this factor, to some extent, influenced the outcome of the war ...

[CRONOS]

RF Armed Forces = Wehrmacht? Or are the plans of the country's leadership to invade the territory of a huge state? :) Current wars and the near future are minor local conflicts taking place in the city limits and settlements. We no longer need to break through to the English Channel, we disagree.
But I agree with you - unification is cost saving and facilitating on-site repairs.

[avt]

Quote: Tanais

At one time, in the boundless directions of the USSR, the fascist Wehrmacht faced the problem of excessive "variability" of its vehicle fleet.

Actually, well, according to German sources, the Wehrmacht faced the loss of a fleet of vehicles with our roads and irreplaceable production by the fighting of the Red Army / SA, and on such a scale that already in 1941, hundreds of thousands of horses and carts were selected in the occupied territories, and this was for the transportation of personnel at the front - to catch up with the tanks, and not only for work in the rear. For the "variegation" I somehow did not come across the statements of the weight characters. Yes - they even cut off the fuel and even the synthetics they ceased to suffice after 1944.

Quote: CRONOS

But I agree with you - unification is cost saving and facilitating on-site repairs.

This is yes. Therefore, all these delights of armored vehicles are not very clever business.

[IGMIT]

It also seems to me that more unified machines are needed and, moreover, abandon imported components, because nobody will sell them to us if something happens.

[Landwarrior]

Hmm, I could be wrong, of course, but it seems like there was an article on the site with a cry about the fact that there are too many imports in "Scorpio" Shaw, everything has already been replaced, or "and so it will do!" ?

[round]

The more variants of vehicles presented to the troops, the higher the chance that they will choose the most optimal (decent) model.

[CRONOS]

Quote: round

The more variants of vehicles presented to the troops, the higher the chance that they will choose the most optimal (decent) model.

..... or they will choose everything at once

[Bayonet]

Quote: round

The more variants of vehicles presented to the troops, the higher the chance that they will choose the most optimal (decent) model.

They do so - “An agreement has been concluded with the Ministry of Defense for the supply of troops to the troops of an EXPERIENCE-INDUSTRIAL consignment of army armored vehicles“ Scorpion LSHA-2B ”, - quotes the military-industrial courier (general director) as saying.
The general director noted that the conversation is about several TENS of units.
To choose the best car, you need to have some operating experience. Grunting about "diversity" and abundance of samples is simply not appropriate

[CRONOS]

The best among which? What can LSA be objectively compared with? I would like to know the price of this device.

[Yak-3P]

in principle, there is nothing wrong with the light equipment of different types .. different plants-jobs of the Moscow Region support the employment of the population, so to speak ... and with large-scale databases, it seems like they write off a tank for 40 min ...

[AUL]

In addition to what to produce, there are also operational issues. And this:
- training of repairmen on different types of equipment;
-the availability of special tools and equipment for various types of equipment;
- storage in repair parts for various types of equipment;
-Delivery of all of these spare parts and maintenance materials to the repair department.
And it's all in one rembat.
Is this variety too expensive for the army? It’s not in civilian life, when you can have any brand, from Oka to Maybach, there would be money.

[Wolka]

Well, a whole garden of military special vehicles was grown, it would be more practical to have one universal chassis with the possibility of modular equipment and weapons for specific combat goals and objectives ...

[acetophenone]

It looks like it's just peeling. They riveted a bunch of fig clouds, but at the exit ... you see for yourself.

[CRONOS]

At the output - all at once and a little bit. Like the Indians

[starhina01]

all this is certainly good, but in fact we all continue to ride on the good old UAZ

[donavi49]

I wonder how the Polish engine was pushed into the state defense order? There is also forced Andoria. At that time, Mokrushin still had an interview from the developers, they said, "Andoria climbs, if at all, you can shove an American, but our voluminous ones. They don't fit in any way, we need to redo all the MTO. Therefore, like Andoria, we have a contract with them and that's it. OK."

[Bayonet]

The leading designer of the armored hull of this car - "YaMZ, in comparison with Andoria, is much heavier and larger. If you install it, you will have to change the layout of the Scorpion, and LSHA B will move to a" heavier "class of vehicles. We, of course, focus on the use of domestic components, but sometimes they are not there, but you still need to make a car. "

[VadimSt]

+ Cold shower for those who need more and faster. This "order" of the Ministry of Defense was signed under Taburetkin. ZAO Zashchita is trying to squeeze into the new framework of the state defense order.

[Bayonet]

But in this publication, a more powerful engine is mentioned (I wonder which one?)
Sergey Starun, General Director of the Zashchita Corporation, said that the Scorpion LSHA-2B would enter the Ground Forces of the Russian Federation.
“An agreement has been concluded with the Ministry of Defense for the supply of the Scorpion LSHA-2B army armored vehicles of the pilot industrial army,” quoted him as saying “Military Industrial Courier.”
The CEO noted that the talk is about several dozen units. According to him, in April 2015, the army of armored vehicles of the Scorpion series were adopted by the special forces units of the Russian army.
“At the moment, state tests have passed the Scorpion LSHA-1 (LSHA - light assault vehicle) with an open top (awning), Scorpion LSHA-2 with a hard metal top, as well as the armored vehicle Scorpion LSHA-2B,” he added. he.
Starun noted that the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Russian Federation was interested in the unarmored "Scorpions", not excluding that the contract for their delivery to the department could be signed before the end of 2015.
“Last summer, the armored Scorpion LSHA-2B, consisting of 15 promising military vehicles, was successfully tested in heat-desert, sand and mountainous regions in the Astrakhan region and in Kabardino-Balkaria. The total length of the route during the tests was approximately 4200 km, ”he said.
The armored car "Scorpion LSHA" weighing 4.5-5 t is equipped with a diesel power unit with an output of 166 hp, which allows you to reach speeds of up to 130 km / h. It is equipped with protection against bullets of small arms of the 6 class and explosive devices with a power of up to 600 grams in TNT equivalent. It also provides for the installation of machine guns "Kord", KPVT, grenade launcher "Flame" and other weapons.

[Bayonet]

Trials of Scorpio-LSHA B. Many photographs. http://www.liveinternet.ru/users/5065822/post340605395

[marlin1203]

In general, nothing is clear! What can be assaulted in a "light car"? Or did they just add the term for beauty? In general, of course, any new vehicles for the troops are good. But only now you need to storm something on something heavier. And for reconnaissance and sabotage work or "war of jeeps", if such suddenly happens, it is quite suitable for itself. Let it be better for the army to do so than budget funds will simply go to the sand at the stage of design documentation.

[Maxwrx]

At first I thought why? supposedly unification and all that. And then I thought that the car will occupy its niche, instead of UAZ. Officers need to ride on something. Volga is no longer released, the UAZ is quite outdated, and chasing a tiger is not economical and just ridiculous.

[Cartman]

jihad car

[alauda1038]

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