Obama has allowed the US Air Force to defend the opposition prepared by the Pentagon in Syria

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Barack Obama gave the go-ahead to use aviation to protect armed groups trained by the Americans, if they are attacked by government forces or other groups, reports RIA News a message published in the wall street journal.

Obama has allowed the US Air Force to defend the opposition prepared by the Pentagon in Syria


According to Pentagon officials, this "decision put an end to the disputes over the course of several months about the role the US military should play to support its few allies on the battlefield in Syria."

Now the “rules of conduct” allow us to strike at the Assad army, only the likelihood of such clashes, according to the military, is very low.

“The recently trained troops are aimed at fighting the radical Islamic State group, rather than against the regime, so they will not be placed in areas under its control,” the newspaper informs.

The representative of the US Security Council Alistair Basky did not comment on the new rules. However, he noted that "the US administration has made it clear that it will take the necessary measures so that these troops could successfully carry out their mission."
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  1. And we now express our concern.
    1. +37
      3 August 2015 10: 37
      It is better to strengthen our maritime grouping off the coast of Syria and the same something to allow .....!
      1. +49
        3 August 2015 11: 09
        Barack Obama gave the green light to using aviation to defend armed forces trained by Americans if they are attacked by government forces or other groups
        When the US representative to the UN, S. Power, at a Russian veto on the tribunal about a downed Boeing, says that Russia puts itself outside international law, it can be understood that the bombing of a sovereign state without a UN resolution puts the United States over international law.
        1. -21
          3 August 2015 11: 19
          Quote: BilliBoms09
          it can be understood that the bombing of a sovereign state without a UN resolution puts the United States over international law.

          So it will be the planes of the militias to bomb the Assad junta. In an extreme case, American pilots are vacationers on military aircraft purchased. wink

          But seriously, the UN must urgently dissolve.
          1. +30
            3 August 2015 11: 32
            Quote: professor
            Quote: BilliBoms09
            it can be understood that the bombing of a sovereign state without a UN resolution puts the United States over international law.

            So it will be the planes of the militias to bomb the Assad junta. In an extreme case, American pilots are vacationers on military aircraft purchased. wink

            But seriously, the UN must urgently dissolve.

            My dear professor, I am glad to see you. The Assad junta is not a junta, but the American junta in Kuev is exactly the same. Either you are for Benya or you are for justice. Do not confuse Pyotr Stepanovich Bandera with Bashir Assad. Bashir did not fight with you, and Petruchio soaked the Jews in Odessa.
            1. -22
              3 August 2015 12: 41
              Quote: valokordin
              My dear professor, I am glad to see you.

              hi

              Quote: valokordin
              The Assad junta is not a junta, but the American junta in Kuev is exactly the same.

              Assad - November 16, 1970 came to power as a result of coupoverthrowing Salah Jadid. wink


              Quote: Dali
              And what in return ... let the UN decide little now ... and yet ...

              Why do something in return? Today the UN is impotent that it is, that it is not. No difference.

              Quote: Dali
              Dissolve the UN really want your friends mattresses - then even there will be no formal constraints.

              Verbal nonsense. Not a single member of the Security Council with a veto will want to lose an attack on Lafa.

              Quote: Dali
              Yes, and the influence of mattresses falls in the UN ... maybe that’s why you want ... that-woo ... all in one interesting position?

              Is falling? How so ... lol
              Quote: Altona
              And then the "Israeli legitimate leadership" will heroically defend against even larger groups of uncontrolled Islamic radicals in all directions, but armed no longer with home-grown pipes filled with gunpowder launched from a tram rail, but with quite professional weapons such as tanks, self-propelled and towed artillery , mortars, MLRS ...

              Arabs armed with professional weapons, such as tanks, self-propelled and towed artillery, mortars, MLRS, we beat many times and very successfully. Beating them is a pleasure. And here they are children launching homegrown pipes full of gunpowder, launched from a tram rail from under the skirts of their women, the enemy is much more dangerous.
              1. +16
                3 August 2015 13: 03
                Quote: professor
                Assad - November 16, 1970 came to power in a coup, overthrowing Salah Jadid.

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                So this is the same senior Assad, who is Hafez ... This is, firstly ... Secondly, the state is a "product of contradictions in society" according to the Jewish classic Marx, that is, the state of society at that time and to reason from the outside "is it a dictatorship or democracy "is not your Jewish business, you are not Syrians ...
                1. -24
                  3 August 2015 13: 09
                  Quote: Altona
                  So this is the same senior Assad, who is Hafez ... This is, firstly ... Secondly, the state is a "product of contradictions in society" according to the Jewish classic Marx, that is, the state of society at that time and to reason from the outside "is it a dictatorship or democracy "is not your Jewish business, you are not Syrians ...

                  1. The pope’s junta transferred power to the optometrist. How cute. tongue
                  2. The Syrians who tried to argue the Pope Assad rolled into the asphalt.
                  1. +20
                    3 August 2015 13: 21
                    Quote: professor
                    1. The pope’s junta transferred power to the optometrist. How cute. tongue
                    2. The Syrians who tried to argue the Pope Assad rolled into the asphalt.

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                    The junta of the Bush and Clintons nicely transfers power to each other in the United States and nicho, dear ... And as for "rolling into asphalt" now the United States is ahead of the rest of the world ... The "democratic justice" over Milosevic, Hussein, Gaddafi, not counting more small figures ... And also the "justice" of US puppets like Pinochet ..
                    1. -16
                      3 August 2015 13: 29
                      Quote: Altona
                      The junta of the Bush and Clintons nicely transfers power to each other in the United States and nicho, dear ... And as for "rolling into asphalt" now the United States is ahead of the rest of the world ... The "democratic justice" over Milosevic, Hussein, Gaddafi, not counting more small figures ... And also the "justice" of US puppets like Pinochet ..

                      1. Who will be the next president of the United States? wink
                      2. How many Americans did the White House roll into asphalt (only in Hama did Assad roll from 10 to 40 thousand Syrians)?
                      1. +5
                        3 August 2015 13: 49
                        The answer to the second question. According to Amer statistics, an average of 545 people a year.
                      2. 0
                        3 August 2015 13: 52
                        The answer to the second question. According to Amer statistics, an average of 545 people a year.
                      3. +9
                        3 August 2015 17: 16
                        Quote: professor
                        How many Americans did the White House roll on asphalt

                        and almost all of them rolled up and they were called Indians ... and that’s also remarkable oil they traded in gold for trinkets with "whites" - what can you take from naive natives ?!
                      4. +1
                        4 August 2015 00: 32
                        2. How many Americans did the White House roll into asphalt (only in Hama did Assad roll from 10 to 40 thousand Syrians)?
                        If you don’t take the old days of the strike at factories in Chicago, Idaho, silver mines, Colorado coal mines, etc., let’s take the last time how many Americans died from the police and how the White House reacted to it.
                      5. +3
                        4 August 2015 00: 47
                        Yes, the White House is not barbaric Syria; it does not roll into asphalt; no, they are civilized and humane people, what asphalt is an atomic bomb on Japan and 200 thousand people in a few minutes ..., carpet bombing, napalm and air defense forces in Vietnam, phosphoric ammunition and depleted uranium shells in Iraq and Yugoslavia are also so democratic and tolerant.
                      6. -3
                        4 August 2015 06: 46
                        Quote: BilliBoms09
                        If you don’t take the old days of the strike at factories in Chicago, Idaho, silver mines, Colorado coal mines, etc., let’s take the last time how many Americans died from the police and how the White House reacted to it.

                        How many? How many women and children were paved in asphalt?
                      7. +3
                        4 August 2015 07: 20
                        Are you talking about the genocide of the Indians, the American famine in the Depression, the bombing of German and Japanese residential neighborhoods and hospitals, Korea and Vietnam (hereinafter everywhere), the use of WMD in cities, or about the 2nd Lebanese?
                      8. +1
                        4 August 2015 16: 12
                        How many? How many women and children were paved in asphalt?
                        And how much Assad rolled up - only reliable information, not Israeli-American propaganda, otherwise it’s time for you to jointly open the ministry’s propaganda and invite the Europeans for a lie. The article is not about how Syria is bombing the United States, but vice versa. So don’t translate ... arrows.
                      9. 0
                        4 August 2015 16: 46
                        There was a tragedy in Hama there were killed civilians as a result of the storming of the city which was captured by terrorists "Muslim brothers" - they became your friends? Along with the tragedy in Hama, is the "black September" in Jordan considered, or is there nothing wrong with the Palestinians killed there? And lastly, how many Palestinians and Lebanese have been killed in the last decade under Israeli bombs, shells and rockets?
                      10. +1
                        4 August 2015 18: 49
                        Gentlemen, Jews, if there are no arguments, then we will wake up without argumentation?
                      11. -1
                        4 August 2015 19: 52
                        Quote: BilliBoms09
                        There was a tragedy in Hama there were killed civilians as a result of the storming of the city which was captured by terrorists "Muslim brothers" - they became your friends

                        10-40 thousand hostages killed during the "liberation" of the city? This is a record of all times and peoples.

                        Quote: BilliBoms09
                        Along with the tragedy in Hama, is the "black September" in Jordan considered, or is there nothing wrong with the Palestinians killed there?

                        All the same in Hama "tragedy" and not a brilliant special operation? It's good though. Which "Palestinians" were killed in Jordan? And who is in Hama then?

                        Quote: BilliBoms09
                        And the last, how many Palestinians and Lebanese have been killed over the past decade under Israeli bombs, shells and missiles?

                        Really, how much? Over the entire period of the Arab-Israeli conflict, fewer Arabs have died than civilians in Chechnya.
                      12. +1
                        4 August 2015 21: 40

                        Really, how much? Over the entire period of the Arab-Israeli conflict, fewer Arabs have died than civilians in Chechnya.
                        But haven’t they already given corridors in Chechnya in a few days, Israel throws off SMS in a few minutes, and then rockets arrive, it’s very humane to warn you when you die. And then the most faithful Russian comrades-in-arms in the Caucasus are now Chechens, but the Palestinians sincerely hate the Jews.
                        10-40 thousand hostages died during the "liberation" of the city
                        So the strategy of Israel is not any negotiations with terrorists, and I think that when the IS is captured, for example, Haifa, not much less people will die during the assault. After all, bandits will primarily shoot at civilians.
                      13. -1
                        4 August 2015 21: 53
                        Quote: BilliBoms09
                        Could it be that corridors were already given in Chechnya in a few days, Israel throws off SMS in a few minutes, and then rockets arrive, it is very humane to warn when you die.

                        And thanks to these corridors, twice as many Russians perished in a year as all Arabs combined in 60 years? Maybe SMS in the end is not so bad? wink

                        Quote: BilliBoms09
                        And then the most faithful Russian comrades-in-arms in the Caucasus are now Chechens, but the Palestinians sincerely hate the Jews.

                        Right So Chechens Russians love that in an endless stream of Russian tourists go to the mountains of Chechnya, and not the deserts of Egypt. lol

                        Quote: BilliBoms09
                        So Israel’s strategy - not any negotiations with terrorists and I thinkthat during the capture of the IG, for example, Haifa, much less people will die during the assault. After all, bandits will first shoot at civilians

                        Don't think about it. You're not good at it. In Israel, an operation to free hostages is considered a failure if at least one hostage is killed. And 10-40 thousand dead "hostages" in Hama is nonsense of all times and peoples.

                        Teach materiel. hi
                      14. +3
                        4 August 2015 21: 58
                        Quote: professor
                        So Chechens Russians love that in an endless stream of Russian tourists go to the mountains of Chechnya, and not the deserts of Egypt.

                        Quote: professor
                        Teach materiel.

                        Oleg hi Well, not the first year we are on the site request Russian tourists primarily go to the SEA Yes And lovers and extreme sportsmen go to the mountains. No.
                      15. +1
                        4 August 2015 23: 18
                        And you do not think. You do it badly.
                        Yes, it’s not much worse than yours or the complex of God's election tortured. I repeat there is no argument nakhami! negative
                      16. +1
                        5 August 2015 00: 41
                        I wonder if you quote other phrases. From my post
                        Haifa, during the assault not much less people will die.
                        We remove, not, in the right place and ...
                        Haifa, much less people will die in the assault
                        Not reminiscent of Goebels Herr.
                      17. -1
                        5 August 2015 08: 40
                        Quote: Ruslan67
                        First of all, Russian tourists go to the SEA. But lovers and extremals go to the mountains.

                        Excuse me, but the Russian language in the French Alps is connected with the sea and why they don’t go to Chechnya because they are so loved there? wink
                      18. +1
                        5 August 2015 16: 25
                        Excuse me, but the Russian language in the French Alps is connected with the sea and why they don’t go to Chechnya because they are so loved there?
                        When was the last time in the Alps or watch television coverage of the 90s about the backstage of the oligarchs. The bulk of Russians either cannot afford or do not want to overpay for the Alps when the mountains themselves have better ones, not only you can count money. And about the Chechen resorts

                        There is a steady increase in tourists visiting Chechnya - in 2011 only 7 thousand people came to the republic, in 2012 - 20 thousand, in 2013 - 35 thousand, that is, in two years the number of tourists increased 5 times. A certain part of them visits the places of pilgrimage - dhikr. The rest, including foreigners, are interested in monuments of ancient architecture and attractions. Many people come for rest and treatment to the Sernovodsky resort, known since the days of the Soviet Union. This resort also expects reconstruction and expansion.
                        hi
                      19. -1
                        5 August 2015 19: 32
                        Quote: BilliBoms09
                        When was the last time in the Alps or watch television coverage of the 90s about the backstage of the oligarchs.

                        Last year was. And you?

                        Quote: BilliBoms09
                        that is, in two years the number of tourists has grown 5 times.

                        That is, if before there were 100 Russians in the Alps, and now it has become 000, then we are seeing a 90% decline, but if there were 000 tourists in the mountains of Chechnya, and now there are only 10 tourists, can we shout about a 10-fold increase? laughing

                        Quote: Ruslan67
                        It is related to the size of bank accounts

                        But why do these rich people not rest in Chechnya where they are so loved? wink
                      20. +1
                        5 August 2015 22: 15
                        Why don't these rich people rest in Chechnya where they love them so much
                        And where did you get the idea that they are not resting?
                      21. 0
                        6 August 2015 02: 35
                        What did you do there? bully
                      22. +3
                        5 August 2015 17: 49
                        Quote: professor
                        Russian speech in the French Alps as related to the sea

                        It is related to the size of bank accounts
                      23. +1
                        4 August 2015 22: 56

                        And you do not think. You do it badly. In Israel, the operation to free the hostages is considered a failure if at least one hostage dies.
                        With a ratio of several thousand militants and several hundred thousand hostages, I think the victims would not be much less.

                        And thanks to these corridors, twice as many Russians died in a year than all Arabs combined in 60 years
                        .
                        The periodic deaths of civilians in Chechnya occurred throughout the war. But these were isolated cases in the course of bombings on mines, certain crimes of federal forces, careless handling of weapons by security forces and road accidents involving them. The largest number of victims again fell on the non-Chechen population during criminal and nationalist attacks, especially in Grozny during the summer-autumn of 1995, battles in August 1996 and until the end of 1996, when militants were again given official power in Chechnya. Until the end of 1996, about 300 people from the Russian population and about 50 from Chechens supporting the federal government were killed by bandits. Several dozen civilians died as a result of crossfire in various settlements near which hostilities were fought. This is especially true for the fighting in Gudermes on December 6-22, 1995 and Grozny on March 5-8, 1996, when the death toll can be estimated at a maximum of 15-20 people.
                        Also, about 40 dead civilians (mainly members of border families) in the Dagestan Kaspiysk in December 1996, arranged by Basayev’s militants, should be counted among the victims of the first war.

                        In total, in this way, the total number of civilian victims of the first war is a maximum of 1.800 to 2.000 dead and deceased.


                        Losses of the civilian population of the Russian Federation as a result of the second war, permanently continuing to this day, amounted to about 3.5 thousand people. Moreover, at least half of this number are those killed as a result of terrorist acts and directly killed by militants.
                        How many died during the 1st and 2nd intefada, during the operation during the 1st and 2nd Lebanese warriors, after all, the Palestinians mostly died there and even so several times a year attacks on the Gaza Strip?
                      24. -1
                        5 August 2015 09: 02
                        Quote: BilliBoms09
                        With a ratio of several thousand militants and several hundred thousand hostages, I think the victims would not be much less.

                        "Would"? We are discussing that could be or still what было?

                        Quote: BilliBoms09
                        Losses of the civilian population of the Russian Federation

                        First Chechen:
                        In January 1996, Deputy Secretary of the Security Council of the Russian Federation Vladimir Rubanov, in an interview with the Interfax news agency, stated that there were no official statistics of victims among civilians in Chechnya, there was only an estimate of human rights defenders - 25-30 thousand dead. In 1997, on the eve of the signing of the Russian-Chechen treaty, the head of the Demographic Statistics Division of the Goskomstat of the Russian Federation, Boris Brui, turned to the International Committee of the Red Cross for estimates of civilian casualties in Chechnya (which confirms the lack of official statistics on this issue). The ICRC redirected him to the Memorial Human Rights Center. Thus, subsequently published by the State Statistics Committee on 30-40 thousand. dead civilians in the First Chechen War are based on information from Russian human rights defenders.

                        The second Chechen:
                        According to the international non-governmental organization Amnesty International (2007), died in the war up to xnumx thousand civilians.

                        Quote: BilliBoms09
                        How many died during the 1st and 2nd intefada, during the operation during the 1st and 2nd Lebanese warriors, after all, the Palestinians mostly died there and even so several times a year attacks on the Gaza Strip?

                        Really, how much? wink
                      25. +1
                        5 August 2015 16: 15
                        "Would"? Are we discussing what could have been or what was?
                        Do not forget at your borders the most powerful terrorist gang of all time and everything can happen, do not promise.
                        According to the international non-governmental organization Amnesty International
                        Amnesty International is a biased organization, judging by the latest publications of this organization from Novorossiya, it does not notice any violations on the part of Kiev - certain communities donate money to them.
                        In the USSR, the Amnesty International group existed from 1974 to 1983. It was composed of dissidents and writers Larisa Bogoraz, Vladimir Voinovich, Sergey Kovalev, Alexander Daniel, George Vladimov, Vladimir Kornilov, Yuri Orlov, Andrey Tverdokhlebov, Valentin Turchin. All were persecuted for their human rights work.
                        As for who compiled the loss data, these citizens were biased by the USSR, they transferred the offense to the new Russia, so official data can be considered at least as well.
                        Really, how much?
                        That I wanted to ask you your country all the same.
                        Palestine at the UN Riyadh Mansour, the death toll in the conflict in the Gaza Strip exceeded 140, almost a thousand people were injured. On the Israeli side, three civilians and a soldier were killed.
                        And this is for a short period of 2012. Why not believe the Palestinians.
                      26. -1
                        5 August 2015 19: 26
                        Quote: BilliBoms09
                        Do not forget at your borders the most powerful terrorist gang of all time and everything can happen, do not promise.

                        Yah? 30-40 thousand hicks with Kalash and DShK in jeeps is "the most powerful terrorist gang of all time"? And the stupid one thought that Hezbollah was more powerful.

                        Quote: BilliBoms09
                        Amnesty International is a biased organization, judging by the latest publications of this organization from Novorossiya, it does not notice any violations on the part of Kiev - certain communities donate money to them.

                        This organization does not favor Israel, but it also reports on such victims from Israel as from Russia. Here are the numbers voiced by the Chechens themselves:
                        160 victims

                        Quote: BilliBoms09
                        That I wanted to ask you your country all the same.

                        Since 1860 (we won’t count how many Russians were killed by General Yermolov and how many Caucasians Stalin killed?) In the Arab-Israeli conflict, 91,105 Arabs including the military were killed. Arabs killed 24,969 Jews during this period:
                        Vital Statistics: Total Casualties, Arab-Israeli Conflict (1860 - Present)

                        Quote: BilliBoms09
                        And this is for a short period of 2012. Why not believe the Palestinians.

                        I willingly believe them. Israel used the Air Force and artillery in the densely populated neighborhoods of Gaza, in which there are no bomb shelters, and only 140 (one hundred and forty) children died. Not 140 thousand, but only 140. And this is in a city with a population of 1.2 million people. Assad killed in Hama with a population of only about 100 thousand people about 40 thousand. Ponder over the numbers.
                      27. +1
                        5 August 2015 22: 44
                        Here are the numbers voiced by the Chechens themselves:
                        160 victims
                        What kind of Chechens who live in London, Brussels and Ankara?

                        Since 1860 (we won’t count how many Russians were killed by General Ermolov and how many Caucasians were killed by Stalin?)
                        And do not remind why Russia climbed into the mountains, maybe because the mountaineers robbed, killed and enslaved the Russian population. In 1926, the population of Chechnya was 309860 people. in 1959 710424 people in 1991 1171514 people in 2015 137268 people Unlike genocide, the Chechens, after a decade of gangster lawlessness, no longer want to separate from Russia, but for some reason the Palestinians do not want to live in an Israeli paradise.

                        Yah? 30-40 thousand hicks with Kalash and DShK in jeeps is "the most powerful terrorist gang of all time"?
                        For some reason, several countries can’t cope with the famine and your main ally put in first place the danger for the United States, even moved Russia to the second, it’s insulting. And you know, 30-40 thousand ragged people on abrams and haamers with heavy artillery and possibly OM are captured in warehouses in Syria, it will be enough for a while to capture some Israeli city and arrange a bloody nightmare there.
                      28. 0
                        6 August 2015 07: 53
                        Quote: BilliBoms09
                        What kind of Chechens who live in London, Brussels and Ankara?

                        Arabs throwing stones in the garden of Israel live there too. Official Russian numbers also go to tens of thousands.

                        Quote: BilliBoms09
                        And do not remind why Russia climbed into the mountains, maybe because the highlanders robbed, killed and enslaved the Russian population

                        The border had to be strengthened, not occupied by other people's territories. Arabs are also terrorizing Israel, but I don’t remember Israeli tanks near the pyramids.

                        Quote: BilliBoms09
                        In 1926, the population of Chechnya was 309860 people. in 1959 710424 people in 1991 1171514 people in 2015 137268 people Unlike genocide

                        You will decompose these numbers into ethnic groups and everything will fall into place.
                        Ilyas Musaev: Soviet-Russian genocide of Chechens

                        Quote: BilliBoms09
                        Chechens after a decade of gangster lawlessness no longer wants to separate from Russia, but for some reason the Palestinians do not want to live in an Israeli paradise.

                        Sorry, two nonsense in one sentence. Conduct a referendum on the secession of Ichkeria from Russia and then you will appeal to the "desire" of the Chechens. There are more than a million "Palestinians" in Israel and they do not want to go to the Arab paradise, but prefer the Israeli hell. On Lieberman's proposal to transfer the city of Um-El-Fachem with its population to the Arabs, they immediately accuse him of racism. Guess where the mixed Arab couples (Israeli Arab bride and non-Israeli Arab groom) prefer to live? On which side of the fence do the Arabs rally? With the one that "occupied" their aul and annexed them to Israel, or with the one that left the aul with the Arabs?

                        Quote: BilliBoms09
                        For some reason, several countries can’t cope with the famine and your main ally put in first place the danger for the United States, even moved Russia to the second, it’s insulting.

                        While only Assad cannot cope with them. Other countries watch the bullfight from the side, sometimes teasing with the bombardment of an angry bull. Hamers and Abrams are episodes, their weapons are YouTube, AK and Toyota with DShK.

                        Quote: BilliBoms09
                        perhaps the OMs were captured in warehouses in Syria, it would be enough for a while to seize some sort of Israeli city and arrange a bloody nightmare there.

                        Open the map before writing such nonsense. How do they get to "some Israeli city"?
                      29. 0
                        6 August 2015 11: 47
                        Dear Oleg (professor), our discussion has come to a standstill. I’m talking about Vanka, you are talking about Masha. Remember what the article is about, and you always take the conversation aside. Answer the question with a question. Distort the facts when it is beneficial to you.
                        While only Assad cannot cope with them. Other countries watch the bullfight from the side, sometimes teasing with the bombardment of an angry bull
                        Those. a third of Iraq was not captured by ISIS, and there were no bombings in the Sinai, and this is next to Israel over the map, is the collision on the Jordanian border just Syria?
                        Hamers and Abrams are episodes, their weapons are YouTube, AK and Toyota with DShK.
                        The Israelis are probably reassured by the media. IS has aviation, albeit outdated (MiG 21 and MiG23), but it does have Scud missiles, heavy weapons from the Hussein army and already supplied by the United States, and IS still has 40 kg captured at Mosul University. uranium, and they are unlikely to create clastic nuclear weapons, but it is quite a dirty bomb, and most importantly, there is someone to use this weapon. The core of IS are Sunnis and former officers of Hussein.
                        Ilyas Musaev: Soviet-Russian genocide of Chechens
                        This Musaev is the minister of the so-called Ichkeria, and you suggest me to believe the bandit and the terrorist? Why, then, does Israel not recognize Hezbollah?
                        Guess where mixed Arab couples prefer to live
                        Guess where mixed families live in Russia - all over Russia.

                        Thank you for the interesting discussion, but it was delayed and everyone will remain at their own place so that until new discussions at the VO. With all due respect.
                      30. 0
                        6 August 2015 12: 41
                        Quote: BilliBoms09
                        Dear Oleg (professor), our discussion has come to a standstill. I’m talking about Vanka, you are talking about Masha. Remember what the article is about, and you always take the conversation aside. Answer the question with a question. Distort the facts when it is beneficial to you.

                        I started about Assad and you took the discussion the other way. I do not juggle the facts.

                        Quote: BilliBoms09
                        Those. a third of Iraq was not captured by ISIS, and there were no bombings in the Sinai, and this is next to Israel over the map, is the collision on the Jordanian border just Syria?

                        In Iraq, no one opposed IS. Valorous Shiite warriors threw the most modern weapons at the sight of tramps with Kalash. In the Sinai, Egypt was not opposed by the Ishilovites, but by all kinds of scum, including the Hamasites. There are no Israeli cities on the Jordanian border (where there are no Igilovites yet).

                        Quote: BilliBoms09
                        The Israelis are probably reassured by the media. IS has aviation, albeit outdated (MiG 21 and MiG23), but it does have Scud missiles, heavy weapons from the Hussein army and already supplied by the United States, and IS still has 40 kg captured at Mosul University. uranium, and they are unlikely to create clastic nuclear weapons, but it is quite a dirty bomb, and most importantly, there is someone to use this weapon. The core of IS are Sunnis and former officers of Hussein.

                        The media in Israel are never reassuring, but quite the opposite. By what weapons the dais conquers the territory I know very well, namely Kalash and DShK. Everything else is episodes.

                        Quote: BilliBoms09
                        This Musaev is the minister of the so-called Ichkeria, and you suggest me to believe the bandit and the terrorist? Why, then, does Israel not recognize Hezbollah?

                        Official figures do not differ much from its numbers. Israel recognizes Hezbollah, of which it is a terrorist organization.

                        Quote: BilliBoms09
                        Guess where mixed families live in Russia - all over Russia.

                        Is it true that 20% of Chechnya are ethnic Russians with their churches, Russian schools, newspapers, television, judges, police, ministers and deputies in the Chechen parliament? wink
                      31. 0
                        5 August 2015 07: 21
                        No, it’s just that only Chechens went out along these corridors ... Do you think it was all not on purpose?
                      32. +6
                        4 August 2015 04: 09
                        2. How many Americans did the White House roll into asphalt (only in Hama did Assad roll from 10 to 40 thousand Syrians)?
                        Where do we start counting? With the Iroquois? With Apache? With Comanches? With whom?
                        Maybe from Krasnomundirnikov? Maybe from the planters from the south? Maybe with the Mexicans? So anyway, where do we start?
                    2. +14
                      3 August 2015 15: 10
                      Do not answer this professional troll! The classic Jewish trick is a trick: he dropped the phrase and "translated" the conversation in the way he wanted. As a rule, on a topic where he will crush with his authority. Any of your arguments or appeals to conscience are useless, if you don't have one. Chutzpah drives after all (with my own ears I heard from the like - echelons of bird feed pi ... l!).
                      Ha! The system automatically corrects intentional errors .. the effect of expressions is lost ..
                      1. +12
                        3 August 2015 16: 47
                        Quote: bes513
                        The classic Jewish trick is a trick: he dropped the phrase and "translated" the conversation in the way he wanted.

                        To this topic.

                        Jews choose a new rabbi. Abram stands up:
                        - We all have long known Rabinovich as an honest person, I propose to choose him!
                        Jews (in chorus):
                        - Yes, let's choose Rabinovich!
                        Yitzchak rises:
                        “Now you want to choose Rabinovich the rabbi, and, by the way, his daughter is a prostitute!” Somehow it’s not good!
                        Jews (in chorus):
                        - Not good!
                        Rabinovich gets up:
                        - Well, how so! You all know me from childhood! I have lived all my life in the community! And I have three sons and never had a daughter!
                        Jews (in chorus):
                        - Indeed, how so?
                        Yitzhak (shrugging):
                        - I expressed my opinion, and you decide ...


                        On my own I would add that to blurt out some nonsense, and then: "- I expressed my opinion, and you decide ..." - this is not a Jewish habit. It is characteristic of both our liberals (regardless of nationality) and the Western media, and for the last year and a half Ukraine has been feeding on this alone.
                  2. +4
                    3 August 2015 16: 21
                    Quote: professor
                    dad asad rolled into the asphalt.

                    See not all, unfortunately tongue
                    Sympathizers also apply))))))
                2. -3
                  3 August 2015 19: 27
                  Quote: Altona
                  So this is the same senior Assad who is Hafez

                  Well, Poroshenko (if we draw analogies) didn’t run along the Maidan and Berdanka and didn’t reset the Yanek, but came to power as a result of elections recognized by Russia, including
                  Quote: Altona
                  it is not your Jewish business to assign from outside "dictatorship or democracy", you are not Syrians ...

                  And you are not Ukrainians laughing
                  1. +5
                    3 August 2015 21: 37
                    "And you are not Ukrainians"
                    Yes, of course. In Russia, every third name ends in ... ko. And half of Ukraine Ivanov, Petrov, Sidorov
                  2. 0
                    4 August 2015 04: 41
                    So we are talking, not just about the dictatorship in the case of Ukrainians, but about fascism.
              2. +6
                3 August 2015 13: 22
                Quote: professor
                Assad - November 16, 1970 came to power in a coup, overthrowing Salah Jadid. wink

                Ah professor, Bashir Assad in 1970 walked under the table, but you didn’t answer for the Jewish city of Odessa, or you don’t care. That Barak Abamych, Peter Stepanovich Bandera or Dima Yarosh.
              3. +4
                3 August 2015 13: 57
                Assad - November 16, 1970 came to power in a coup, overthrowing Salah Jadid
                This is his other son, and he is elected in the election. This fair election was not for us to judge, and certainly not the US and the EU.
                Beating them is a pleasure
                And who did not beat them after the 13th century, the last great Arab commander Salah Ad-Din. After this, not one victory of the Arab weapon, there is nothing to be proud of.
          2. +3
            3 August 2015 11: 41
            Quote: professor
            But seriously, the UN must urgently dissolve.


            And what in return ... let the UN decide little now ... and yet ...

            Dissolve the UN really want your friends mattresses - then even there will be no formal constraints.

            Yes, and the influence of mattresses falls in the UN ... maybe that’s why you want ... that-woozy ... well, to put everything in one interesting position ?! laughing
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          4. +3
            3 August 2015 11: 41
            Quote: professor
            So it will be the planes of the militias to bomb the Assad junta. In an extreme case, American pilots are vacationers on military aircraft purchased.

            ----------------------
            And then the "Israeli legitimate leadership" will heroically defend against even larger groups of uncontrolled Islamic radicals in all directions, but armed no longer with home-grown pipes filled with gunpowder launched from a tram rail, but with quite professional weapons such as tanks, self-propelled and towed artillery , mortars, MLRS ...
          5. +8
            3 August 2015 11: 45
            Well, over in the UAE, several tactical groups went on vacation to BMP-3 and Leclerc to the resorts of Yemen, Aden has already been recaptured and is moving to the North, returning Yanukovych, who was overthrown by the Shiite Maidan, to the throne.

            And everything is ok.
          6. +7
            3 August 2015 11: 53
            But you are vainly scoffing at such rates, you’ll soon have to fight with the Isis (on your territory), and yet, it is not known who in this war the gentleman will appoint his beloved wife Yes
            1. +3
              3 August 2015 12: 18
              it is not known who in this war the lord will appoint a beloved wife


              Thin laughing A harem is a harem, all the same, wives, that the first, that the second ... Well, if they fight, so this is the master's hand, they will prove love more strongly. What's it like, professor? Hehe hehe, "proud independent Israel"
            2. +2
              3 August 2015 15: 54
              Quote: Observer 33
              But you are vainly scoffing at such rates, you’ll soon have to fight with the Isis (on your territory), and yet, it is not known who in this war the gentleman will appoint his beloved wife Yes

              hi Hello, I’m afraid that ISIS is an artificial project to destabilize a region where chaos is always needed. So the authors of this project, most likely the United States themselves, and accordingly not without the participation of Israel.
              Humor I appreciated +
              1. 0
                4 August 2015 02: 14
                That's why all this is being done ... even the "Turkish volunteers" will catch up (and their prezik now looks like an adik), In the USA, just some people went crazy and did not follow someone back in 1999 and 2001 ..

                The Assads are all the same Alawites, but the government was secular and, by the way, controlled by the "diaspora". As in Egypt. laughing
          7. +1
            3 August 2015 12: 51
            Quote: professor
            But seriously, the UN must urgently dissolve.

            it's high time ... but somehow strange they almost all came out wagging their asses when Ahmadinejad spoke very truthfully.
            1. 0
              3 August 2015 14: 09
              about America professor, about America ... lol
          8. -1
            3 August 2015 12: 57
            Quote: professor
            But seriously, the UN must urgently dissolve.

            I completely agree with this part of your comment.
          9. 0
            3 August 2015 14: 14
            you can show everyone an example and get out of there ... laughing
          10. -1
            3 August 2015 15: 30
            and we are a club on the head and that’s it: http://news.rambler.ru/head/30727643/
            1. +1
              4 August 2015 06: 12
              This is better so far after instead of the Syrians doing it with the Su-33 or the Russian Air Force, for example from the Syrian bases, and this is someone black in the white house ( lol ) thinks to interfere.
              Are you still reluctant to fly vertical or the second aircraft carrier, because the first one needs some time to rest, and part of the aircraft KR can be intercepted over Turkey or Afghanistan?

              In which case, with the current state of affairs in Iraq, it is also possible to bombard the Tu-95, not even the Tu-22M3 or Tu-160, with free-fall. laughing

              And if not, then take the Su and MiGs there by container ship and even push the Yak-38 straight from it (if any). Introduce a no-fly zone over Syria for the American. And for some others too. Nothing of the kind - suddenly, "by mistake" someone will take for Americans.
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          12. +1
            3 August 2015 15: 48
            Quote: professor
            So it will be the planes of the militias to bomb the Assad junta. As a last resort, American pilots vacationers on military-acquired aircraft

            Each has its own Junta, doesn't it? Everyone has their own geopolitical interests, no one is white and fluffy, but you must admit that the military bloc does not stand near the US borders.
            Quote: professor
            But seriously, the UN must urgently dissolve.

            Just the United Nations is another tool of the West.
          13. +1
            3 August 2015 19: 17
            Quote: professor
            But seriously, the UN must urgently dissolve

            And abolish Israel ...
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            1. -2
              3 August 2015 20: 21
              You can’t save Russia by breaking the railway. But such as you incendiary, treat would not hurt laughing
              1. +2
                3 August 2015 22: 12
                Duc proposed not to beat, but to abolish ...
        2. 0
          3 August 2015 14: 43
          That's when the UN Security Council needs to collect! And call everything by their proper names - who attacked whom; about legality and lawlessness.
      2. +1
        3 August 2015 11: 11
        Quote: Finches
        Better to strengthen our maritime grouping off the coast of Syria

        certainly better .... the question is what? .... Moscow already doesn’t remember how the native shores look .... now the first mistral would have come to a place right now ... in the Tartus area ... accompanied by TFR .. .but already FSE contract has been torn to us 1.2 lard ... and the dismantling of our equipment .... frogs of the body for sale ....
        1. +1
          3 August 2015 11: 17
          Quote: gispanec
          ..but already the FSE contract has been torn to us 1.2 lard ... and the dismantling of our equipment .... frogs of the body for sale ....

          But from France, completely different news:
          “An agreement with Russia on the Mistral ships has not yet been reached. I will make a corresponding decision on this issue in the coming weeks, ”said the French president on Friday evening. Earlier, Prime Minister Manuel Waltz, following the results of the Council of Ministers in the Champs Elysees, also refused to confirm the fact of the transaction, saying only that the decision would be made before the end of summer.
          http://www.discred.ru/news/s_chem_svjazano_zajavlenie_ollanda_po_mistraljam/2015
          -08-01-14411
          1. +2
            3 August 2015 11: 45
            Quote: СРЦ П-15
            But from France, completely different news:
            “An agreement with Russia on the Mistral ships has not yet been reached. I will make a corresponding decision on this issue in the coming weeks, ”said the French president on Friday evening.

            -----------------------
            It looks more like Byzantine intrigues or trade on Privoz- "Fima, I will sell you whatever fish you want, but Sarochka will be very unhappy" ... Something like this ...
          2. +1
            3 August 2015 13: 20
            “An agreement with Russia on the Mistral ships has not been reached at the moment. I will take an appropriate decision on this issue in the coming weeks, "the French President said on Friday evening."
            It seems France does not want to give either the Mistral or the money, so it takes time to find an excuse to keep this and that.
      3. +3
        3 August 2015 13: 50
        Quote: Finches
        It is better to strengthen our maritime grouping off the coast of Syria and the same something to allow .....!

        .. I think in the Blue House in Damascus the number of residents will increase by a multiple soon .. wink .. and the mattresses will start heartburn .. laughing
    2. +5
      3 August 2015 10: 37
      Quote: Salavatsky Ministry of Emergency Situations
      And we now express our concern.


      no ... let's check our air defense systems in Syria in action ... the Turkish phantom opened this account ... whoever dumped it was not voiced by the armor or someone else ... but nevertheless - a fact ...
      1. +18
        3 August 2015 10: 50
        The fact that since I was a monkey did not give a damn openly to all international laws and actually gave permission to bomb the sovereign state is a repetition of Iraqi aggression!
        1-So what? Is Russia "preoccupied" again "preoccupied"?
        2-This indicates a complete loss of the monkey's "banks".
        3-You can, because we are "stuck" with grunts.
        4- Clear evidence that the "gypsy camp" that Russia sent to the shores of Syria-zilch and no more.
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    4. +24
      3 August 2015 10: 38
      Quote: Salavat EMERCOM
      And we now express our concern.

      The best way to express it is to deliver Assad anti-aircraft complexes.
      1. Quote: lelikas
        The best way to express it is to deliver Assad anti-aircraft complexes.


        Totally agree with you, and not only air defense system.
        1. 0
          3 August 2015 16: 27
          Quote: Salavatsky Ministry of Emergency Situations
          Quote: lelikas
          The best way to express it is to deliver Assad anti-aircraft complexes.


          Totally agree with you, and not only air defense system.


          I think Iran will soon buy it))))
      2. +2
        3 August 2015 10: 45
        Quote: lelikas
        Quote: Salavat EMERCOM
        And we now express our concern.

        The best way to express it is to deliver Assad anti-aircraft complexes.


        Yes, everything is already there .. and beeches and armor ... C300 is a question, but judging by how Israeli missiles were intercepted two years ago = what exactly is there ...
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      4. +1
        3 August 2015 11: 13
        Quote: lelikas
        The best way to express it is to put Assad anti-aircraft systems

        so they already exist there .... shells in nth number are waiting for their finest hour ... and even the c200 will still fit ...
      5. dyksi
        +9
        3 August 2015 11: 32
        A Syrian plane was shot down over Idlib, which fell on the city, it is not known whether the militants shot it down, or the mattresses have already started supporting the militants with aviation. The army in Idlib launched an offensive and successfully, this is what mattress makers are afraid of, Idlib is a springboard for them, for an attack on Latakia and Damascus. In any case, there is nowhere to retreat, if their number passes, it will be "Libya 2", with all that it implies.
        1. 0
          3 August 2015 11: 47
          The Turks could themselves - Idlib enters the zone closed to any flights, announced by Erdogan.
          1. +5
            3 August 2015 12: 34
            Quote: donavi49
            The Turks could themselves - Idlib enters the zone closed to any flights, announced by Erdogan.

            In vain, the Turks and I got in touch on gas; throughout history, they have been our enemies, and they will remain so.
            1. 0
              3 August 2015 13: 58
              In vain, the Turks and I got in touch on gas; throughout history, they have been our enemies, and they will remain so.
              Yes, this is a "shadow on the fence", they will not build nichrome there, there is a northern stream, it will be enough.
            2. -2
              3 August 2015 20: 02
              Quote: valokordin
              In vain, the Turks and I got in touch on gas; throughout history, they have been our enemies, and they will remain so.

              so with gas in general, a complete dead end.
              The Turkish stream - did not move beyond the memorandum.
              by the way today there was an interesting infa
              Russian President Vladimir Putin has changed his attitude to the ongoing crisis in Syria and is looking "much more positively" at the future of this country without Bashar al-Assad, Turkish Weekly writes with reference to the words of Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan.

              According to Erdogan, he noticed a “positive” shift in Putin’s Syrian policy during a face-to-face meeting in Baku and a recent telephone conversation. “He does not take the original position; no longer shows that "we will be with Assad to the end," the Turkish leader said during a visit to Indonesia. “In fact, I believe that (Putin) might even abandon Assad.”

              and,
              1. +1
                3 August 2015 20: 12
                Quote: atalef
                writes Turkish Weekly with reference to the words of Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan.

                This tipus can chat what he wants. Now everything is decided at the meeting of Carey and Lavrov ...
                Quote: atalef
                The Turkish stream - did not move beyond the memorandum.

                At this stage, he did his job, distracted attention from the construction of a new branch of the Nord Stream and Germany's refusal to fulfill the notorious "third package" ...
                1. -1
                  3 August 2015 20: 19
                  Quote: svp67
                  This tipus can chat what he wants. Now everything is decided at the meeting of Carey and Lavrov ...

                  Look what you saw, then gave
                  Quote: svp67
                  At this stage, he did his job, distracted attention from the construction of a new branch of the Nord Stream and Germany's refusal to fulfill the notorious "third package" ...

                  Dreams, dreams - what is your charm?
                  Nord Stream -1, 50% full, Germany the initiator and mastermind of the 3rd gas package
                  S.P.2 expects the same as the Turkish stream. South Stream and the Power of Siberia (by the way, why don't they remember them somehow) request
          2. dyksi
            0
            3 August 2015 13: 59
            I apologize for the inaccuracy, the MiG fighter (MiG-23, or MiG-23BN) fell on the city of Erich, also captured by terugyugs. The reasons for the fall are still unknown, although of course they most likely shot down.
      6. +1
        3 August 2015 11: 51
        The more the Yankers will perish in the Syrian abyss, the faster the Anglo-Saxons will move to change their warlike attitudes towards Syria. Do everything so that the Yankees remember Vietnam.
      7. +5
        3 August 2015 12: 17
        Putting Assad anti-aircraft systems means signing a death sentence for him. He will knock down a couple of planes and this is just not enough for mattresses - an excuse. After which they calmly demolish the position of the Syrians by aviation, and ig and ssa will finish it. It doesn’t matter what we deliver to him - c300, c400 or c500, tori or shells. It will not be effective against mattress covers - just the parties in different leagues play. It's like giving a schoolboy brass knuckles and sending them against the world boxing champion. Brass knuckles can help if the forces are approximately equal, and so it will not be of benefit. Moreover, the Amers have extensive experience in the destruction of air defense. So they will work out another tactics of struggle with s300. They may lose a couple of planes, but they will gain experience. and the result will be the same. Well, the question is what should we do in this case. The situation is mirrored with dill. Dill is an instrument of the United States, but not in NATO and officially mattress covers cannot protect it. Syria is our ally, but not in the CSTO, and we also cannot officially defend it. What all depends on the Syrians themselves and the degree of interest in Iran.
        1. +5
          3 August 2015 14: 16
          Quote: g1v2
          Putting Assad anti-aircraft systems means signing a death sentence for him. He will knock down a couple of planes and this is just not enough for mattresses - an excuse. After which they calmly demolish the position of the Syrians by aviation, and ig and ssa will finish it.

          ... everything that you described and will be so .. mattresses act like frank gopniks .. but an ophthalmologist with bare hands is one thing, and an ophthalmologist with a bat in his hands (C 300) and a strong friend (mustashar) laughing next is another .. according to this and above wrote .. populate the Blue House in Damascus .. agility with mattresses will subside at once .. hi
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        4. 0
          3 August 2015 15: 21
          So the sentence has already been signed, and for a long time.
        5. +2
          3 August 2015 20: 16
          Quote: g1v2
          Putting Assad anti-aircraft systems means signing a death sentence for him. He will knock down a couple of planes and this is just not enough for mattresses - an excuse.

          And so they have it without any pretext ... They have already signed Assad's death warrant, and at the request of Qatar and with his money. So, "folding his hands" Assad will gain nothing, and if he resists, then who knows ...
          1. +5
            3 August 2015 20: 26
            Quote: svp67
            And so they, without any excuse, they ... They already signed Assad's death sentence, and at the request of Qatar and with his money.

            .. to sign and declare this one thing, but to execute it is another .. "overseas marketers" have always been masters of advertising .. Assad has not yet been arrested and not in a cell .. wink .. they themselves will not do a damn thing .. only by the hands of the Turks .. the last meeting of NATO convened at the initiative of Turkey clearly showed .. all NATO supported Turkey .. but only morally .. bully
      8. +3
        3 August 2015 13: 53
        Quote: lelikas
        The best way to express it is to deliver Assad anti-aircraft complexes.

        .. and populate the Blue House as in the old days .. photo above .. laughing
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    6. +4
      3 August 2015 10: 40
      But why do we need American trained armed forces in Syria, if everyone hates them there? belay Well, sorted out among themselves, the third superfluous.
    7. +19
      3 August 2015 10: 51
      Quote: Salavatsky Ministry of Emergency Situations
      And we now express our concern.


      Endless "concerns" will eventually result in US Air Force attacks on militia positions in the DPR-LPR ...
      Exaggerate? Not at all ...
      Syria will be the "touchstone" ...

      " It will pass there, you can "under concern", to pursue a policy of expansion wherever we want "- this is how the" formula "of US behavior looks like ...

      And to bring down ambitions can only be LOUD "SHA... "and not the bleating of" worried "...
      1. +2
        3 August 2015 15: 10
        "Loud" SHA .. "is it like? What can we really do in Syria besides the supply of air defense systems? Air defense systems with our calculations? Is that exactly what we can" push "the states there?
    8. +3
      3 August 2015 10: 52
      Mattresses keep their mongrels from the Iblian state
    9. +4
      3 August 2015 11: 08
      Yes, everything went to this, they discovered America, damn it, but it was clear to everyone that as soon as Russia vetoed Assad’s bombing and promised, in case of disagreement, to put Syria’s S-300, the Americans immediately started looking for a way out and decided, under the guise of fight ISIS, introduce their squadrons and then, as if defending the opposition, bomb Assad. If the Ministry of Defense of Russia isn’t fools, but I think not fools (at least I hope) then we foresaw such an alignment of the enemy even earlier, when he tried to enter through the front door, when he couldn’t, he went through the back door and they should put up the modern Syrian air defense systems as promised , since the Americans will not calm down until they remove Syria from the map of the Earth as a state.
      1. +1
        3 August 2015 13: 25
        And ISIS intensified after the Russian Federation did not allow the bombing of Syria?
    10. +1
      3 August 2015 11: 27
      Quote: Salavatsky Ministry of Emergency Situations
      And we now express our concern.

      I think Putin and Lavrov are stupidly silent.
      1. +1
        3 August 2015 12: 55
        Yes, for sure. You, "smart guy", will not listen
      2. 0
        3 August 2015 12: 58
        You, "smart guy", will definitely not listen
    11. 0
      3 August 2015 15: 42
      Quote: Salavatsky Ministry of Emergency Situations
      And we now express our concern.

      You cannot understand our people, they say that Russia should not get involved in the war, we are far from "PSEUDOSVERKHDERZHAV", it is better to sit on the priest level, then give them a global player who will land his troops in the Middle East right now. request
      And the United States, of course, by not whining so much, let’s see, otherwise putinsil will begin
      1. 0
        3 August 2015 16: 35
        Quote: Army1
        Quote: Salavatsky Ministry of Emergency Situations
        And we now express our concern.

        You cannot understand our people, they say that Russia should not get involved in the war, we are far from "PSEUDOSVERKHDERZHAV", it is better to sit on the priest level, then give them a global player who will land his troops in the Middle East right now. request
        And the United States, of course, by not whining so much, let’s see, otherwise putinsil will begin


        As one smart man said, le, some 120 years ago: "Russians are scary because of the minimum of their needs ...". This is what I mean, if you don't know who will look at whom else if you play "peepers" with "penguins" .........
    12. 0
      3 August 2015 16: 47
      Nope, we can’t express it, because this week the limit for expressing concern has already been reached ...
    13. KAV
      0
      3 August 2015 21: 23
      I very much hope that we will express our concern, and in the meantime we will supply Assad with the necessary armaments, without displaying or flaunting it. I really hope so.
  2. +4
    3 August 2015 10: 36
    Here he is numb! Looks like deadlines are running out. Now let's look at the reaction of Russia, China and Iran.
  3. +9
    3 August 2015 10: 38
    Obama gave the go-ahead to use aviation to protect American-trained militias

    Well, now there is official permission to hammer B. Assad. The Americans froze to the ground. It is their thirst for revenge for the political defeat of Russia at the initial stage of this war.
    1. 0
      4 August 2015 17: 09
      someone with a scent is not in order
      again they want to find a buried dog there
  4. +11
    3 August 2015 10: 38
    You can't trust the Americans in anything. Do you remember how we were recently delighted with the victory of Russian diplomacy in the Syrian conflict - "peace in exchange for chemical weapons"? As a result, Assad now has no weapons of mass destruction, and the Yankees will still bomb Syria, despite the lack of permission from the UN Security Council.
    1. +1
      3 August 2015 11: 10
      Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov recalled that “a few days before the expected decision to start bombing Damascus in order to overthrow the regime under the pretext of chemical weapons allegedly used by the Syrian authorities (no one ever presented evidence), Putin put forward at the GXNUMX summit in St. Petersburg idea ". "He said - since you are worried about chemical weapons, let's get Syria to sign a convention on the prohibition of chemical weapons and commit to eliminating them. No need to bomb. If you are talking about chemical weapons and nothing more, then we are ready to use our influence so that Syria will join the convention on the prohibition of chemical weapons and sign the relevant organizations an agreement on their elimination", - Lavrov recalls.
      “He proposes to his partners to negotiate not half a step ahead, not for a period of two or three years, when the next elections follow and the voters need to present some loud, resounding victory. But a little further. Look beyond the horizon. This is the thing, you know. , she is very different from Western colleagues from Putin, "- emphasizes the Minister of Foreign Affairs.
  5. -17
    3 August 2015 10: 39
    Putin finally squeezed. Renting Donbas, Syria, only now it does not play any role. The decision was made and the United States will seek for Putin the fate of Milosevic, Saddam or Gaddafi.
    1. +8
      3 August 2015 10: 50
      Quote: Gorinich
      Putin finally squeezed. Donates Donbas, Syria, only now it does not play any role.

      What is the “surrender of Donbass and Syria?” If one pretzel, does not know what he is doing, is it Putin's fault too?
      Quote: Gorinich
      The decision was made and the United States will seek for Putin the fate of Milosevic, Saddam or Gaddafi.

      From whom to seek? You read what you write!? EVERYTHING, hear, ABSOLUTELY all those who disagree with the policy of the USA are its enemies. This decision was made a long time ago. The USA are not judges. They are bandits, sadists and executioners. In one bottle.
      1. -7
        3 August 2015 11: 18
        They are trying to get from the Russian "elite". They will surrender as well as Saddam and Putin understands this.
        1. +1
          3 August 2015 14: 48
          Quote: Gorinich
          They are trying to get from the Russian "elite". They will surrender as well as Saddam and Putin understands this.

          And you do not contradict yourself?)) Putin understands, then surrenders))
    2. +3
      3 August 2015 11: 11
      A donut hole to them and not Sharapov. Zae ..... to swallow dust.
  6. +19
    3 August 2015 10: 41
    And I have been waiting for this for a long time. The next step is to create a no-fly zone over Syria. There is only one way out: wash the Yankees with their own blood., Only they understand this. Conclusion - to supply modern air defense systems to Assad, the more they need to be tested.
    1. +3
      3 August 2015 11: 09
      Well, I very much agree with you. Sami asked for it.
    2. +8
      3 August 2015 11: 10
      Quote: edeligor
      Conclusion - to supply modern air defense systems to Assad

      Just separate air defense systems will not solve the problem. It is necessary to create a modern air defense system. For the whole territory of Syria it is certainly expensive, but around 2–3 strategically important cities and bases it is quite real. In this place, you can check the correctness and effectiveness of some conceptual decisions in the organization and functioning of the air defense system of the Russian Federation. Testing in combat conditions is always more effective than at any training ground.
      Although the defense system can not solve the problem of impunity strikes on the territory of Syria. It is impossible to defend endlessly. To end the conflict, we need supplies of high-precision strike weapons that can reach airfields, bases, and warehouses. This is the only way to end the war, not only in Syria. but also in the Donbass.
    3. 0
      3 August 2015 16: 50
      Are you not afraid that these ISIS complexes will go to you? Then we’ll stop flying on civilian planes.
      1. +1
        3 August 2015 19: 14
        Quote: arlekin
        Aren't you afraid that these ISIS complexes will go to you?

        Everything that is more complicated than MANPADS is a lot of scrap metal for ISIS fighters, they don’t have such specialists. Only fascists from Ukraine will come to share their experience in the destruction of civilian aircraft.
  7. +7
    3 August 2015 10: 41
    Designated to the whole world, Assad is worse than ISIS. Here are bastards proud, it has not been possible for how many years, but you have to go to the end, the toad is crushing.
    1. +3
      3 August 2015 10: 56
      Quote: keel 31
      Designated to the whole world, Assad is worse than ISIS

      Well, here you are wrong. For Obama and the United States, IG and Ebola are worse than Russia and Putin.
  8. -5
    3 August 2015 10: 42
    well, that's it ... until Assad, or rather farewell ...
    1. 0
      4 August 2015 17: 12
      it's time to set the traps ...
  9. +2
    3 August 2015 10: 45
    I think that a pair of flyers lowered to the ground will cleanse the brain of these warriors well. Stationary air defense systems do not fit here, preferably portable.
    1. +4
      3 August 2015 10: 58
      Well, if the USA and the coalition are seriously harnessed, then there is no chance for:
      - RLE field is completely destroyed by the war. Complexes can only rely on their central control systems.
      - Stationary positions that would at least distract the outfits of forces are mostly incapacitated by the war.
      - a number of air defense equipment was captured or destroyed.
      - Many air defense specialists have long fought in the infantry and police. In Syria, now the percentage loss is already greater than the USSR in the Second World War. This is the hardest war.


      Portable systems are completely ineffective against the United States and the Coalition, the maximum of which Jordanians / Turks with WWI to shoot down iron bombing. US their coalition is bombing above the ceiling of MANPADS.
    2. +1
      3 August 2015 11: 10
      Quote: Zomanus
      I think that a pair of flyers lowered to the ground will cleanse the brain of these warriors well. Stationary air defense systems do not fit here, preferably portable.

      I suppose that the assad’s troops, the US Air Force will be bombed either by UAVs or by not entering the Syrian air defense zone ...

      So MANPADS are unlikely to be needed in this case.
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  10. +8
    3 August 2015 10: 51
    Like a pin up he likes to be a plug in every hole! laughing
    Not by washing, so by skating, but all the same they climb into Syria to fight with the "opposition". The assertion that they will not fight against Assad and his army is nothing more than a publicity stunt, since they simply will not be able to resist not to bomb the government troops if they just fit in with the little toe of their left foot. to play off with his other pet (ISIS).
    1. +1
      3 August 2015 11: 54
      Quote: K-50
      Like a pin up he likes to be a plug in every hole

      For them, it's just big business in Scarlet's concept - “I will kill, steal, but I will never starve!” In the modern presentation, Scarlet is oligarchs like the Rothschilds and Rockefellers, and they destroy entire nations.
  11. +4
    3 August 2015 10: 52
    The destruction of Syria is the beginning of the destruction of Russia (and maybe the continuation), somehow Assad needs to be helped.
    So the USSR could and helped, but the RF-?
    1. +4
      3 August 2015 11: 16
      Quote: olimpiada15
      The destruction of Syria is the beginning of the destruction of Russia (and maybe a continuation)


      Old-old photo from Syria, the beginning of the war:
      1. +1
        3 August 2015 11: 22
        Quote: Good Me
        Old-old photo from Syria, the beginning of the war:


        There is a dime a dozen such testimonies on the net ... Here's another one, "from the same series", and perhaps the hands of one author, from somewhere in the North Caucasus ...
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    3. +2
      3 August 2015 11: 48
      And the Russian Federation, the World Cup, Skolkovo, and the floating ruble exchange rate named after the Central Bank. Not until Syria did, for more important things are.
      PS And, I almost forgot, the wedding of Peskov and Minsk-Norman graters.
      1. +2
        3 August 2015 11: 53
        Quote: Observer 33
        PS And, I almost forgot, the wedding of Peskov and Minsk-Norman graters.

        Priorities, do not know how to arrange ... Peskov-Navka, in the first place.
        1. +1
          3 August 2015 15: 25
          Well, I’m just far from their priorities, being a defining consciousness is somewhat different, and so confused feel
      2. +1
        3 August 2015 13: 42
        "It's not up to Syria, there are more important things."
        And it is necessary to invest in Nanotechnology, they are so effectively implemented by Chubais-Dali billion, since they still borrowed and received nano-money — they are nowhere to be seen.
  12. +1
    3 August 2015 10: 53
    In Zabadan, the $ 400 has almost run out. SSA yells about "HEALTH" and "DEMANDS IMMEDIATE HELP". Therefore, such actions are logical, because this is how the $ 400 will end.

    In the north over the days of 54, select 400-dollars were hidden (the SSA even wrote a heroic death in officialdom), and they yesterday appeared in the radical subgroup of Nusra, alive and well, accusing the SSA of trampling on Islam, venality, and everything else.

    Therefore, they will bomb, the only question is how much harnessed? Will it be situational attacks on Assad’s resistance nodes in the same Aleppo or Latakia, or will they harness like in Libya / air Iraq with non-stop attacks? For the second outfit, there is no strength even with the Turks.
  13. +4
    3 August 2015 10: 58
    The war is not purely syntactic, for the American layman, after Assad’s hypothetical fall, will actually flare up in the entire Middle East. In this case, I hope the Turks will not be left without participation. All the same, I think the Turks survive the last decades within their borders. Israel alone will become the complete hegemon in the entire region. Israel in the region is the only country whose chaos of the Middle East is on hand. There remained Turkey, Saudi Arabia and Iran, the Israelis also hope for their rapid decline. When Iran is left alone, it will quickly try to eat. Sincerely.
    1. 0
      3 August 2015 20: 27
      How is chaos beneficial for Israel? belay
      1. +1
        3 August 2015 20: 30
        Quote: Egor65G
        How is chaos beneficial for Israel?

        At least by the fact that he disconnects your enemies ...
        1. 0
          3 August 2015 20: 38
          But in my opinion, stability is more profitable. And some enemies are disconnected, others are united hi
          1. 0
            4 August 2015 06: 12
            Quote: Egor65G
            But in my opinion, stability is more profitable.

            Yes, somehow the whole current history of the state of Israel shows that it’s not your way ...
            1. 0
              4 August 2015 13: 07
              Quote: svp67
              Yes, somehow the whole current history of the state of Israel shows that it’s not your way ...

              I did not understand your thought.
      2. +2
        3 August 2015 23: 02
        Quote: Egor65G
        How is chaos beneficial for Israel?

        You will seize the territory from Syria. I would not be surprised if there already exists a "secret pact" of Netanyahu-Cavusoglu on the partition of Syria.
        1. 0
          4 August 2015 13: 10
          Quote: Bijo
          Syria will take the territory.

          Why so many Arabs? And your guesses and surprise are unlikely to determine something in the actions of governments.
          1. 0
            4 August 2015 18: 51
            Quote: Egor65G
            Why so many Arabs?

            And here the Arabs, you will press them, like the Palestinians, a speech about the territory, about living space if you want. The potential of the Jewish country is both economic and military, but the zemstvos are not dense. Therefore, probably under the Iranian nuclear program, you react so nervously.
            1. 0
              4 August 2015 19: 03
              Bijo, in Israel there live under the lemon FILYSTINS and no one oppresses them. And the zemlyatska was conquered strategically important, like the Golan Heights. No, well, if you take the Syrians to yourself ...
  14. +2
    3 August 2015 11: 02
    We sit down before the war. Not for that, the US was spending money on ISIS to leave Assad alone now. It's time to give the monkey a cabbage soup, or find ourselves in a geopolitical zope. As Chi used to say, defense wars are not won.
  15. +2
    3 August 2015 11: 06
    Well, that’s where our test for lice started ... maybe it’s really ... ...... to all that we have there. Those who want will always find adventures at their place. They themselves asked for it. Ready or not, here I come.
  16. +5
    3 August 2015 11: 07
    The worst is starting to happen - the United States, along with the Turks, decided to go all the way, the Turks are the first echelon (they created a land group on the border with Syria, announced the fight against ISIS and decided to clear the territory of the Kurds under this mantra, and there you can see Assad himself, Well, the Yankees, as always - support from the air and the role of the boss, who can throw a number of logs in the form of a number of member countries into this fire
    Assad was hard, but now you won’t envy at all ...
  17. +5
    3 August 2015 11: 12
    Quote: BilliBoms09
    Barack Obama gave the green light to using aviation to defend armed forces trained by Americans if they are attacked by government forces or other groups
    When the US representative to the UN, S. Power, at a Russian veto on the tribunal about a downed Boeing, says that Russia puts itself outside international law, it can be understood that the bombing of a sovereign state without a UN resolution puts the United States over international law.

    They are not used to it! what
  18. +3
    3 August 2015 11: 14
    Opposition, however, prepared by Obama!
    Neither sit down nor stand up !!!
    Prepared ... Now these oppositionists burn everything and everything on their way and create flows of refugees, from which the eastern EU countries are screaming.
  19. +9
    3 August 2015 11: 20
    What is called a world on the brink ... as soon as the senate of americas approves, then I think it will start ...

    Will our country help these ten days before the final consideration by the Senate, will it be time to help the American Senate lose its desire ...

    All of this is bad ... If we surrender to Syria ... damn it, the appetite comes in time, and then what will America require?
    All this is bad ...
  20. +3
    3 August 2015 11: 21
    Quote: professor


    But seriously, the UN must urgently dissolve.


    I agree, the UN has not decided anything for a long time ...
    1. +4
      3 August 2015 11: 43
      And the UN, yes, has long been a useless organization, a hundred times bought, sold, resold ...
    2. 0
      3 August 2015 11: 50
      Quote: GAndr
      I agree, the UN has not decided anything for a long time ...


      And what in return ... let the UN decide little now ... and yet ...

      The "friends" of the mattress very much want to dissolve the UN - then even formal constraints will not exist.

      Yes, and the influence of mattresses falls in the UN ... maybe that's why they (and the professor too laughing ) they want ... this-woo ... well, all in one interesting position to put ?! laughing
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    4. +3
      3 August 2015 11: 59
      The UN is a structure created by the United States with the aim of abolishing the sovereignty of member states, therefore Switzerland has not joined this organization for a long time. At the same time, in 1947, work began on the abolition of tariffs (for goods from the United States) in international trade (GATT negotiations), which ended (attention!) Immediately after the destruction of the world socialism system in 1993 and the WTO (successor to GATT) was created - an organization for the introduction mandatory technology barriers for products that do not meet mandatory standards imposed by the US government. Since the United States is a technology leader, this means the gradual dying off of industries that cannot use technology developed in the United States. Thus, the membership of the Russian Federation in the WTO under the conditions of "sanctions" makes it impossible to develop the strategic industries of the Russian Federation and in the near future puts the final cross on them. Also, the government of a WTO member country is just an administrative body of the WTO that performs technical functions. Also, ICAO is a UN structure. It is important to understand this in the light of the history of MH-17, for which ICAO also bears responsibility. In the long term, I think the Russian Federation will pay huge fines through the WTO and decisions of various courts. All this together will make it impossible to implement defense programs. So the UN decides very much ...
      There are two ways out of the situation: 1) a break with the WTO and the UN, 2) renunciation of sovereignty. Choose.
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      2. +6
        3 August 2015 12: 10
        Quote: iouris
        There are two ways out of the situation: 1) a break with the WTO and the UN, 2) renunciation of sovereignty. Choose.


        With the UN, I think all the same, we have to wait ... but we must definitely leave the WTO.

        Entry into the WTO is the project of the 5th column !!!
        1. +6
          3 August 2015 12: 27
          They won’t let me wait. A permanent member of the Security Council - a rogue country - this is our perspective. I think so. The policy objectives of the West are not changing - the division of the USSR will continue, since the West is a well-known banking house.
  21. +8
    3 August 2015 11: 41
    We would allow our Air Force to defend the opposition in Ukraine. And that’s all, they will immediately begin negotiations ...
  22. +4
    3 August 2015 11: 41
    Quote: GAndr
    Quote: professor


    But seriously, the UN must urgently dissolve.


    I agree, the UN has not decided anything for a long time ...

    The professor again respects why the UN should dissolve, the IMF should dissolve, so as not to sponsor Terrorism and Revolution. Well, what libertiki shitmokratiki understood with whom you deal? Comrade Stalin, back in the 40s and 50s, did not succumb to their bait, and you opened your mouths and asses to want to get rich. How disgusting to look at your faces. For motherland for Stalin.
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  24. +2
    3 August 2015 11: 51
    Quote: Dali
    Does our country help during these ten days before the final consideration by the Senate, whether it will be in time to help the American Senate lose its desire ... All of this is bad ... If we surrender Syria ... damn it, appetite comes in time, and what will the Americans need next? ? All this is bad ...

    I don’t know whether we will have time or not, but we need to announce the supply of modern air defense systems of Syria. Along with concerns, the latest warnings should be used.
    1. 0
      3 August 2015 12: 29
      And who is concerned? Names, passwords, appearances? There is a normal feast during the plague.
  25. 0
    3 August 2015 11: 51
    Guys, this is actually a declaration of war. Where is this UN, huh?
    1. +5
      3 August 2015 12: 00
      Where is the UN? Where is the UN?

      Well, who cares. Again, an example - in Yemen, at first all sorts of ancient monuments, markets were bombed, but columns with refugees didn’t come out very well. The UN was silent, the United States seemed to approve.

      Now the UAE is already sending vacationers by ship, with tanks, infantry fighting vehicles and artillery. And the rules. Unlike American intentions, here real vacationers in general of the third state are cut across the resorts of Yemen in tanks.







  26. -1
    3 August 2015 13: 07
    Well, Russians !!! Let's help the brothers Syrians !!!
    A soldier of the American shameful army, KNOW what your command about Russians shows to you, TALES!
    Russians are 100 times scarier !!! With us, after the phrase "They are beating ours," such a batch begins that it usually stops near the borders of the World Ocean!
    1. +1
      3 August 2015 15: 42
      Almost a hundred years ago, RI already got involved with the brothers:
      "... Following its historical precepts, Russia, united in faith and blood with the Slavic peoples, never looked at their fate with indifference. With complete unanimity and special strength, the fraternal feelings of the Russian people for the Slavs have awakened in the last days ... Now it is already not to intercede only for the unjustly offended country that is kindred to Us, but to protect the honor, dignity, integrity of Russia and her position among the Great Powers.
      We unshakably believe that all the faithful Our subjects will stand united and selflessly to defend the Russian Earth.
      In the terrible hour of trial, let internal strife be forgotten. May the unity of the Tsar and His people be strengthened even more, and may Russia, which has risen as one man, be impudent against the onslaught of the enemy, repel. "The Highest Manifesto on Russia's entry into the war.
      Remind me and yourself, at what boundary of the oceans has this intervention ended? And where did the Russian Empire disappear after that? Do not overestimate yourself and underestimate the enemy.
      1. 0
        4 August 2015 02: 17
        Russia did not get involved - she declared war. And it’s not Austria-Hungary (which then completely disappeared).

        In fact, after the armistice for 20 years, that war ended in Berlin.
  27. +2
    3 August 2015 13: 53
    It is time to "poke a nose" at the hegemon at the UN Security Council level in his affairs. After all, the UN Security Council issued mandates for the "democratization" of Afghanistan and Libya. So the United States should report on "achievements". And then it will be possible to try to push through a resolution that the US and NATO are pushed back for their actions. Of course, there are not many chances, but we need to go on the offensive at the UN. At least what is the use of this gathering.
  28. +2
    3 August 2015 14: 25
    Obama allowed the US Air Force to defend
    In the first such plane that "protects", put McCain - so it will be more familiar.
  29. +2
    3 August 2015 14: 34
    Quote: Salavatsky Ministry of Emergency Situations
    And we now express our concern.

    Quote: Salavatsky Ministry of Emergency Situations
    And we now express our concern.



    ... yeah, something opposed to ... flying! wink
    1. +2
      3 August 2015 19: 21
      Syria has Buki in service. But these air defense systems somehow did not help Syria when the Israeli Air Force attacked Assad's warehouses and barracks.
  30. 0
    3 August 2015 15: 02
    Quote: professor
    Arabs armed with professional weapons, such as tanks, self-propelled and towed artillery, mortars, MLRS, we beat many times and very successfully. Beating them is a pleasure ...
    My dear, put us in quotation marks and start over your fascinating story, including the following comments.
    1. -4
      3 August 2015 15: 06
      Quote: fevg
      My dear, put us in quotation marks and start over your fascinating story, including the following comments.

  31. 0
    3 August 2015 16: 50
    in the course of Assad comes a desert fox .. as well as our support for him. The first Amer shot down in the sky over Syria - and no talk at the UN will save. Neither the states nor Israel need these conversations anyway ... - they put them on the world community with the device .. And the IS is already in Russia, and in the former Soviet republics .. And after the fall of Assad (and now soon) - all this unshaven a horde of obscurantists will break upon a command from Washington to us .. And the Turk is a cunning bastard, you will look at the battalion in Crimea .. And under the hot thing, you can also send a group of faithful to Azerbaijan to restore integrity in Karabakh .. What did Vanga say about Syria? Or did Vaenga sing? .. We have to wait, UN assemblies. And the Supreme's speech on her. If, of course he will go there ..
    1. 0
      3 August 2015 19: 23
      Quote: Dikson
      And under the hot thing, it’s still possible to throw a brigade of faithful into Azerbaijan - to restore integrity in Karabakh ..


      We have our own army))) We don’t need bearded people. And yet, where did you see that Igilovets will fight for the Shiites))))) Complete illiteracy on this subject)))
      1. 0
        3 August 2015 19: 50
        I repent, I am not strong in beliefs .. Sorry if I offended your feelings, but the thought was about fomenting an old conflict .., about creating a point of tension ... But there is no time for mercenaries to figure out who is Shiite, and who is Sunni ..
    2. 0
      4 August 2015 01: 25
      UN rabbi in Vietnam, or even more so in Korea, did something decide? In the last "with her" they even fought and nothing.
      Maybe it decided something with the Yugoslavia?

      In the Caucasus, the Turks have already lost more than three divisions (both wholesale and retail).