Monument to Soviet and Polish soldiers demolished in Poland

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The Russian Foreign Ministry expressed extreme indignation at the demolition of a monument in the town of Nova Sul, which symbolized the arms fighters of the Red Army and the Polish Army, transmits PolitNavigator.



On Saturday, the Russian department stated that it was considering the decision of the authorities of the town of Nova Sol to demolish the monument “as a frankly unfriendly step by the Polish side, as a direct and gross violation of the provisions of the agreement between the Russian Federation and Poland on burials and places of memory of victims of wars and repressions.”

In particular, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs was outraged by the fact that this decision was made without coordination with Russia.

“We regret to state that the Polish authorities are not listening to our repeated calls to end the“ war ”with the monuments .. It seems that the mockery of our memorable places has been elevated to the rank of state policy in Poland.”


In Warsaw, they must finally understand that the “war of monuments unleashed in Poland” is fraught with the most negative consequences, the responsibility for which will lie entirely with its initiators, ”the statement said.

The Polish Foreign Ministry replied that "the decision of the city of Nova Sol does not violate the agreement with Russia."

After the demolition of the monument at the end of June, the mayor of Nova Sul, Vadim Tishkevich, stated that the monument was “ugly, always dirty because of coarse inscriptions.”

“Times have changed. We grew up. There are no Russians here for a long time, ”he added.
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  1. +15
    5 July 2015 10: 22
    The destruction of historical memory requires a new Polish history.
    1. +25
      5 July 2015 10: 27
      Quote: Teberii
      Times have changed. We have grown.


      What nonsense, the size of the point for the pshek has grown due to frequent consumption by a partner because of the puddle. winked
      1. +47
        5 July 2015 10: 33
        - Mom, I have a control tomorrow!
        - Do not worry, son - now we will repeat everything. The capital of Germany?
        - Berlin.
        - The capital of France?
        - Berlin. Mom, give us something more complicated.
        - The capital of Poland?
        - Berlin.
        “How smart you are, Adolf!”
        1. +8
          5 July 2015 12: 24
          Quote: 53-Sciborskiy
          - The capital of Poland?
          - Berlin.
          “How smart you are, Adolf!”
    2. +32
      5 July 2015 10: 27
      The Psheks decided to take an example from Bandera and start a war with monuments? He who destroys his past has no future.
      1. +6
        5 July 2015 10: 50
        Quote: oleg-gr
        The Psheks decided to take an example from Bandera and start a war with monuments?

        but the Balts began. they took dill from them
        1. +3
          5 July 2015 12: 30
          Quote: Lukich
          but the Balts began. they took dill from them

          Quote: Vovochka15
          What can be done, the monuments do not give a snout. But fighting with Russians is more expensive.

          Avitaminosis. Lack of vitamin "P"
        2. 0
          5 July 2015 22: 34
          Quote: Lukich
          Quote: oleg-gr
          The Psheks decided to take an example from Bandera and start a war with monuments?

          but the Balts began. they took dill from them

          ====
          with regards to the military, they did not demolish it in Latvia, they dismantled and transferred it in Estonia, I don’t know about Lithuania, but it started somewhere west, maybe in Poland
          1. +1
            6 July 2015 03: 55
            In general, I always remember Lev Gumilyov - he is right after all! And Bismarck is right with his - geography is a sentence

            I constantly make sure that neither blood is important. not a language, but geography and geopolitics are important
            There is Eurasia and there is Europe (well, separately there is China and the Islamic world, etc.)

            The Russians and the Poles are both Slavs — but the Russian will always be closer to any Buryat or Yakut or Mongol, t is Eurasia — and the Pole is already from Europe
      2. +8
        5 July 2015 11: 22
        What can be done, the monuments do not give a snout. But fighting with Russians is more expensive.
      3. +3
        5 July 2015 12: 11
        Quote: oleg-gr
        The Psheks decided to take an example from Bandera and start a war with monuments?



        The strangest thing is that they destroy monuments and memorial plates to Bandera ...

        That is, they beat the whites until they turn red, and vice versa ... Mass psychosis ...
      4. +3
        5 July 2015 14: 15
        "Psheki decided to follow the example of Bandera and start a war with monuments? Who destroys their past has no future."

        This is a type of gymnastics, step on a rake, the number of repetitions is unlimited.
      5. 0
        5 July 2015 16: 56
        And Poland has a so-so past.
      6. +1
        5 July 2015 18: 42
        Quote: oleg-gr
        The Psheks decided to take an example from Bandera and start a war with monuments? He who destroys his past has no future.

        The Poles have survived from their minds, for a long time.

        "It is not only possible to be proud of the glory of one's ancestors, but it is also necessary. Not to respect it is shameful cowardice."

        AS Pushkin
    3. +7
      5 July 2015 10: 29
      Quote: Teberii
      requires a new Polish history.

      In Poland, there is no tendency toward reconciliation with Bandera Ukraine.

      In any case, at the level of national memory, and not at the level of political opportunists. Unknown avengers damaged another monument to the militants of the Ukrainian Insurgent Army again. This was reported on the Facebook page of the Heroica Charity Initiative.

      "In Poland, an act of desecration has been committed over a Ukrainian military grave. A monument to the UPA soldiers at the cemetery in the village of Verbitsa (commune of Lubich Korolevska)," the statement, quoted by Ukrainian Vesti, says.

      Vandals painted a monument with an aerosol and tore off and smashed nameplates.

      Most recently, on June 26, unidentified persons committed an act of vandalism, desecrating the grave of the leader of the Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists Stepan Bandera at a cemetery in Munich.



      More details: http://antifashist.com/item/v-polshe-neizvestnye-razrushili-ocherednoj-pamyatnik
      -boevikam-upa.html # ixzz3eypUARHW
      1. +5
        5 July 2015 10: 36
        Together with Bandera, we will become allies.
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    5. +12
      5 July 2015 10: 39
      Fraternity Monument in Arms: Poles, striving to become the best friends of the Yankees in Europe, are doing their part in belittling the role of the USSR in defeating the Nazis.
      1. +3
        5 July 2015 15: 40
        Monument to Kaczynski associates? Katyn? angry “Times have changed. We have grown. There are no Poles here for a long time. ”
      2. +1
        5 July 2015 16: 15
        a monument, by the way, demolished with the help of Amer’s CATERPILLAR!
        1. +1
          5 July 2015 20: 06
          what to do, Poland has always been and will be for different armies "courtyard" - always dirty and cluttered.
          Hence the aggression and the eternal inferiority complex - a small member (NATO).
    6. +1
      5 July 2015 11: 12
      The destruction of historical memory requires a new Polish history.
      There is still a square of Soviet-Polish friendship in Kaliningrad laughing
      1. +1
        5 July 2015 12: 13
        Quote: jktu66
        There is still a square of Soviet-Polish friendship in Kaliningrad


        It needs to be renamed to "Apple Square" ...
    7. +2
      5 July 2015 11: 51
      Quote: Teberii
      The destruction of historical memory requires a new Polish history.

      It’s time for the panamans to board a bigger plane and again to the Smolensk region. For 5 years, the birch has recovered, and others have grown up, the calculation of the fog is ready to complete the tasks.
    8. +9
      5 July 2015 11: 58
      Quote: Teberii
      The destruction of historical memory requires a new Polish history.

      .. or rather, the Sixth repetition is required by Poland .. five times already we "for three" pondered, with Germany (Prussia) and Austria .. this is how much you have to be stupid to run into the Sixth time ..
      First partition of Poland -1772
      The second section of Poland -1793
      Third Section of Poland -1795
      The fourth partition of Poland - 1815
      The fifth partition of Poland - 1939
      Sixth section of Poland -?! - minus the Bialystok Territory and West Prussia to Russia, Pomerania and Silesia to Germany and welcome Poland to the borders of the Principality of Warsaw and no access to the sea .. wink
      1. +1
        5 July 2015 12: 14
        Quote: Inok10
        Welcome Poland to the borders of the Principality of Warsaw and no access to the sea



        But what about "from mozha to mozha" ???
        1. +7
          5 July 2015 13: 05
          Quote: veksha50
          But what about "from mozha to mozha" ???

          .. not like .. laughing .. the only way .. hi
          1. 0
            5 July 2015 15: 35
            Quote: Inok10
            . not like ... .. just like that.



            Well ... you have to dig, like the great Ukrainians ...
    9. +9
      5 July 2015 12: 03
      my grandfather died in battle in Poland ... sorry grandfather, but they will answer for it sooner or later !!!
      1. +3
        5 July 2015 13: 41
        A team of qualified Ukrainian builders digs the seas in any places with the specified dimensions and depths. Turnkey delivery. - So much for "from can to can" laughing
    10. +3
      5 July 2015 15: 31
      It seems that there is talk about the erection of a monument to their president, who died near Smolensk? So there can be no monument in response to the demolition of the monument in honor of the fallen Soviet soldiers and soldiers of the Polish army. Oh, the little pshikalki got up and running! Is the voice cut through? as they were "corrupt girls", and remained! Trust me, I know! Studied with them.
      1. +1
        5 July 2015 20: 10
        As the kobzar said: "... God forbid to deal with three: a Jew, a crest and a lyakh ..."
    11. +4
      5 July 2015 18: 40
      IN POLAND DELIVERED THE BRAIN MEMORIAL. COMING MONUMENT TO COMBRIGU AND IN ALCHEVSK SOON

      In Poland, a memorial to Brain. Soon a monument to the brigade commander will appear in Alchevsk
      A plaque to the legendary brigade commander “Ghost” Alexei Mozgovoy appeared in a military cemetery in the small Polish town of Pultusk. The Polish edition of Wyborcza has published a photograph of this memorial plaque.

      On the gray memorial next to the portrait of Mozgovoy in Russian letters are written the name and surname of the deceased, the name of its formation is “The Phantom” and the years of life (1975-2015). Also on the board is a hand with an aiming on the palm of the hand. There is also an inscription in Polish on the board, which can be translated as “Do not be afraid of their weapons, be afraid for your honor.”

      Who exactly installed the memorial in the 20th town is not reported. But it is known that in this military cemetery, mainly Soviet soldiers who died in 1944-1945 in the battles in the vicinity of Pultusk are buried. This is a historical place, and since the Great Patriotic War there have not been new burials here.



      Read more: http://antifashist.com/item/v-polshe-postavili-memorial-mozgovomu-skoro-poyavits
      ya-pamyatnik-kombrigu-iv-alchevske.html # ixzz3f0oy7uE6
    12. 0
      5 July 2015 20: 00
      Yes, the Poles have been bored (I mean the government).
    13. +2
      5 July 2015 20: 21
      My grandfather died in 1944, freeing Poland from the Nazis .. Each time, reading such news, blood boils, teeth grind. Selling Poles - this is the most modest epithet - the rest are obscene.
      1. +1
        5 July 2015 22: 02
        Selling authorities primarily rewrite history to please the owner. Poland’s well-being during the CMEA was based on our cheap energy sources. Then on EU subsidies. Now, recently wrote that fin. the program to support new EU members is closing, a large part of which went, thanks to the United States, to Warsaw. Sanctions from Moscow sentenced rural households. Of Poland. The banking system in the hands of foreign. banks. Horns and legs remained from industry. Poland has arrived, soon it will turn into a country of guest workers. Ukraine, having turned away economically from Russia, is slipping into default and economic collapse. Poland and the Baltic states have not learned a lesson, or maybe the owner does not give a lesson, and are sent there. The new authorities in Poland were no better than the previous, and even better, worse. Normal Poles will eventually understand where the wind is blowing. Faster so mature. In principle, the same Americans, Canadians, Poles, etc. normal people, they want the same thing that we do (family, work, home, children, etc.), and politicians are muddled by those who stand behind them. hi
  2. +11
    5 July 2015 10: 23
    And what about the monument to Kachinsky with a drunken retinue?
    1. +7
      5 July 2015 10: 53
      send to Poland by parcel, having previously decorated with rainbow colors of the gay flag
    2. +1
      5 July 2015 10: 55
      Quote: Observer2014
      And what about the monument to Kachinsky with a drunken retinue?


      Good question my friend. I answer. Nothing! Stuck in approvals ... wink
    3. 0
      5 July 2015 20: 14
      The same air setup, as with the Malaysian Boeing and the French businessman.
      "One" command "works, according to the same scheme.
      But this is a very expensive pleasure, not everyone can afford it.
      Who can pay for this? For example, some old vampire like Soros playing political chess.
  3. +7
    5 July 2015 10: 23
    He who does not remember the past has no future!
    1. +10
      5 July 2015 10: 40
      Ungrateful Europe! I have long forgotten that the feat of the peoples of the USSR - Russia, saved her from the brown plague.
    2. +3
      5 July 2015 12: 34
      Quote: ya.seliwerstov2013
      He who does not remember the past has no future!

      They are methodically redrawing the consciousness of young people, so that in 10-15 years they will get a herd of controlled zombies without a past and without a future.
      Poles cannot even imagine what kind of monster they are "feeding" and raising today.
  4. +12
    5 July 2015 10: 24
    “Times have changed. We have grown. Russians haven’t been here for a long time ”

    There are always Russians.
    1. +17
      5 July 2015 10: 28
      Quote: Duke
      “Times have changed. We have grown. Russians haven’t been here for a long time ”

      There are always Russians.

      They would listen to smart people.
      1. The Trick-22
        +8
        5 July 2015 10: 58
        Quote: Kos_kalinki9
        They would listen to smart people.
        1. +16
          5 July 2015 11: 02
          Maybe there can be.
          1. The Trick-22
            +4
            5 July 2015 11: 10
            Quote: Kos_kalinki9
            Maybe there can be.
            1. +2
              5 July 2015 11: 20
              Quote: Trick-22
              Quote: Kos_kalinki9
              Maybe there can be.
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      2. +1
        5 July 2015 20: 19
        Yes, late Bismarck realized that Russia and Germany were stupidly pitted to eliminate both.
        1. The Trick-22
          -2
          5 July 2015 20: 30
          Quote: shershen
          Yes, late Bismarck realized that Russia and Germany were stupidly pitted to eliminate both.

          is it possible to learn more about Bismarck's "insight"?
    2. +3
      5 July 2015 11: 39
      Time will come. They will pray in Russian. hi
      1. +1
        5 July 2015 15: 13
        The authenticity of citations is easily verified on paper media. Usually in encyclopedias (not wiki, ordinary Soviet). Sometimes the quotes are not accurate in form, but accurately convey the content. This is permissible - not tea at the seminar ...
        1. 0
          6 July 2015 08: 05
          Truly so, what did my grandfather accustom me with, and I often appeal to the loss itself. It came to contacting the archives.
  5. +12
    5 July 2015 10: 24
    Well, what kind of people. Under Tver there is a memorial to the executed Poles, clean, well-groomed and no one will cry for its destruction !!! I am ashamed that there are Poles in my roots.
    1. +8
      5 July 2015 10: 48
      There is no need to be ashamed, but there is a bastard everywhere. Sincerely.
      1. The Trick-22
        -2
        5 July 2015 20: 34
        Quote: zurbagan63
        I am ashamed that there are Poles in my roots.

        Quote: akribos
        No need to be ashamed

        let him be ashamed, his business. Let the metrics rewrite, extinct roots. To each his own. And for me, there’s nowhere to fall so low when you say such a thing.
    2. +7
      5 July 2015 10: 56
      Quote: zurbagan63
      I am ashamed that there are Poles in my roots.

      Ha, why should you be ashamed of the fact that you have Polish roots ?? )) Well, Rokossovsky was a Pole. But digging deeper, under Ivan the 3rd, how many Polish and Lithuanian magnates crossed the border: Vorotynsky, Belsky, Mstislavsky, Kurbsky ........ and how many peoples are mixed with other peoples ?? Surprising motives on a national basis. Here things are not nationality, rassovosti, religion, etc. but culture, conscience, dignity. And of course, propaganda plays a role - this is government policy.
    3. +2
      5 July 2015 15: 02
      Quote: zurbagan63
      I am ashamed that there are Poles in my roots.



      Polish blood in their veins should not be embarrassed, embarrassed should be embarrassed from their relatives ...
    4. 0
      5 July 2015 20: 22
      Stop, most Poles are quite adequate people who understand the situation and draw conclusions.
    5. 0
      6 July 2015 08: 17
      To calm your conscience: unlike the rest of Europe, who fought against us, so to speak, shoulder to shoulder with the Fritz in the form of all sorts of SS military units, the Poles there were only in the form of individual personality impregnations and not in the form of troops!
  6. +4
    5 July 2015 10: 24
    He who spits in his past has no future.
    1. +2
      5 July 2015 10: 35
      Quote: igor1981
      He who spits in his past has no future.

      --------------------------
      Whoever shoots the past with a pistol, the past will respond with a shot from the gun ...
  7. +4
    5 July 2015 10: 24
    There is a Polish monument near Smolensk.
    1. +3
      5 July 2015 10: 29
      I will clarify - a monument to drunk inadequate Poles near Smolensk
    2. +4
      5 July 2015 15: 06
      Soviet soldiers liberated Europe - they demolished the monuments. Our Polish officers were not shot, but a monument to them on our land stands, our presidents lay flowers to him kneeling.

      “In October 1941, the Germans shot about 15 Polish servicemen and police in a forest near Smolensk. The evidence gathered by Burdenko's commission is irrefutable.
      We give two documents. Telegram from Warsaw: “Krakow. Lightning. Senior Advisor to the Administration of the Main Direction of the Governor General Weyrautu. Secretly. Part of the delegation of the Polish Red Cross brought with them cartridges of cartridges used in the shooting of victims in Katyn. It turned out that this is German ammunition. Caliber - 7,65. The company "Geko". A letter follows. Head of the Main Propaganda Directorate Heinrich. Warsaw May 3, 1943. " This telegram well complements Goebbels' s diary, dated five days later: "Unfortunately, German uniforms were found in the graves near Katyn, if our enemies knew this, the whole scam with Katyn would have failed."

      Even before the attack on the USSR, the Wehrmacht’s General Staff and Himmler’s office agreed on cooperation in the rear area of ​​the theater of operations. Himmler and his closest assistant Heydrich selected experienced cadres from the Gestapo, SD, criminal police, forming operational groups from them. In Smolensk (rear area "Mite" - Center) mass arrests and massacres began as early as September 1941.
      An important document was discovered - the report of the chief of this team of the SS General Frans Stagletsker to Berlin, dated January 1942. It says: “I executed the main order, given to my group, to clear Smolensk of the enemies of the Reich — the Jews, the Bolsheviks, and the Polish officers.”

      http://topwar.ru/73100-katyn-belye-pyatna-i-belye-nitki.html
  8. +11
    5 July 2015 10: 25
    There is only one feeling of pity, why so many hundreds of thousands of our grandfathers and grandmothers gave their lives for the release of this unfinished.
    Forgive us.
    1. The Trick-22
      -1
      5 July 2015 20: 41
      Quote: yushch
      There is only one feeling of pity, why so many hundreds of thousands of our grandfathers and grandmothers gave their lives for the release of this unfinished.

      because the grandparents were following the order. And, by the way, they went to Berlin, where the way through the "unfinished" lay. So, your sense of pity is a woman's, you somehow try to calm down. You still do not equate the war with the Night Wolves pokatushki.
      1. 0
        6 July 2015 08: 12
        Ha, they carried out the order already at the front, but hundreds of thousands of volunteers came to him! Your rhetoric is something very aggressive, can it cool in the refrigerator?
  9. +5
    5 July 2015 10: 26
    “Times have changed. We grew up. There are no Russians here for a long time, ”he added.

    S .... ka so you will jerk off you will see RUSSIANS and it will be the last thing that you will see pshek pooga..y am am am
  10. +11
    5 July 2015 10: 26
    The Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation expressed extreme indignation at the demolition of the monument in the town of Nova Sol, which symbolized the brotherhood in arms of the soldiers of the Red Army and the Polish Army, reports PolitNavigator.

    Why is this an empty expression of indignation. If concrete, tangible actions with respect to the Poles followed then yes.
    For example, stop trading with the Poles until they apologize and restore the monument. And so an empty air shake.
  11. Cat ridder
    +5
    5 July 2015 10: 27
    Shameful !!! For insulting the memory of the soldiers-liberators, fate still hangs them !!
    1. +2
      5 July 2015 10: 44
      Quote: Cat-Ridder
      Shameful !!! For insulting the memory of the soldiers-liberators, fate still hangs them !!

      I really hope for it!
      A monument to Soviet and Polish soldiers ... well, yes, there were all Russians and "wrong Poles".
      By the way, the film "4 Tankmen and a Dog" has already been banned in Poland, but in our country they are still showing, apparently demonstrating the brave Polish army.
  12. +7
    5 July 2015 10: 28
    Ivana, not remembering kinship!
    Polish authorities did everything so that the Poles no longer felt involved in the Great Victory
    For your information:
    Since May 14, 1943 the formation of the 1st Polish infantry division (three infantry regiments, one light artillery regiment, one separate anti-tank battalion; separate companies — reconnaissance and communications, mortar battalion, anti-aircraft artillery and rear units) began in the Seletsk military camps near Ryazan.
    On July 15, 1943, the Soviet command sent 1 Soviet officers to the 325st Polish Infantry Division.
    In August 1943, the 1st Polish Infantry Division, together with the 1st Polish Tank Regiment. Heroes of Westerplatte and the 1st Warsaw Fighter Aviation Regiment (32 Yak-1 aircraft) made up the 1st Polish Corps (12), led by Major General Sigismund Burling.
    October 12 - 13, 1943 (this date is considered the day of the formation of the Polish People’s Army) the first battle of the 1st Polish division near Lenin of the Mogilev region took place as part of the 33rd Army of the Western Front. Losses of the division reached 25% of the personnel (502 killed, 1776 wounded and 663 missing). On October 14, the Polish division was set aside for reorganization.
    In March 1944, Polish units were deployed to the 1st Polish Army (90), which included not only former Polish citizens, but also Soviet citizens of Polish (and not only) origin.
    On July 21, 1944, the 1st Polish Army was united with the partisan Army Ludova (18 brigades, 13 battalions and 202 detachments) into a single Polish Army.
    On July 26, the 1st Polish Panzer Corps was formed under the command of Colonel Jan Rupasov (later Brigadier General Jozef Kimbar).
    In late July - early August, the 1st Polish Army participated in the liberation of Deblin and Pulaw. The 1st Polish armored brigade participated in the defense of the Studzian bridgehead on the west bank of the Vistula south of Warsaw. It consisted of three regiments of fighter aircraft.
    On September 14, 1944, the troops of the 1st Belorussian Front together with the 1st Army of the Polish Army liberated the suburbs of Warsaw - Prague. On September 15, all 15 divisions of the Polish Army were redeployed here.
    The Polish army participated in the breakthrough through central Poland, freeing Bydgoszcz on January 28. Then the 1st Polish Army was transferred north, and it took part in the battles, advancing along the Baltic coast. The main forces of the army participated in the assault on Kolberg, and the 1st Polish armored brigade attacked Gdansk. In Szczecin, the 1st Polish army stopped for regrouping, as its losses amounted to 5400 people killed and 2800 missing.
    etc.


    The current NATO authorities probably do not want to recall that the Polish army, after its defeat, was literally revived in Russia.
  13. +1
    5 July 2015 10: 30
    “Times have changed. We have grown. Russians haven’t been here for a long time ”
    Just grown ... but it’s clear that they are not wise
    1. +4
      5 July 2015 10: 49
      After all, this is a monument to Polish soldiers too. It is doubly mean, I think. After all, together then the Poles and the Russians went to the fire to drive Nazism into the ground. It is not for nothing that they say that politics is a dirty business. I foresee that this is not the last provocation and spitting in history from these, here ... "mayors of small Polish towns."
    2. +2
      5 July 2015 19: 04
      "With old age comes wisdom. Sometimes old age comes alone." Fully applicable to Poles!
  14. +5
    5 July 2015 10: 33
    Here, too, a little off topic, but associated with Russophobia: 04.07.15/XNUMX/XNUMX. Note from bloggers.

    "A historical excursion into the question of what is common between Ukrainian and Baltic Russophobia. A Latvian Russophobia who was resting on the beach hit the three-year-old child of a Russian resident of the republic, Victoria Udalova. The Latvian herself motivated the attack on the boy with the words:" You, Russians, don't belong here. "
    At the same time, she advised her mother and child to go to Russia. This is reported by the Focus portal. Lv. Udalova notes that after the blow of the Latvian woman, a crimson imprint remained on the body of the Russian child. The kid cried for another half hour and could not calm down. In the Latvian social media segment, the incident caused both shock among Russian users and widespread approval among supporters of the "European path". According to Rossiyskaya Gazeta in June, the inscriptions "Death to Russian invaders" appeared on the changing cabins on the beach in Jurmala.

    Where did the Baltics come from as part of Russia, and why do many Balts so hate Russians?

    In 1721, Peter I bought Lifland from Sweden in the Nishtad peace. by paying defeated Sweden ... 2 million gold thalers. In January 1795, the head of the Duchy of Courland, Duke Peter Biron, began negotiations with Catherine II and eventually abdicated for two million rubles and an annual pension of 69 thousand talers. As a result, on May 27, 1795, the Duchy of Courland became the Courland Province.
  15. +6
    5 July 2015 10: 34
    But is it not time for the Poles to give back what the USSR gave them back to Germany, huh?
  16. +3
    5 July 2015 10: 35
    Poland's anger at Russia has long remained in its genes .. For "Speech to Posspolita" we gave them a good kick back in those days! Yes, and under the Tsar's empire they were spreading rot, teaching them "to reason". We didn’t finish teaching .. We will continue! I have a second wife (Polish blood, the first Ukrainian) Bitch wallpaper! But my sons are my genes! bully
    1. The Trick-22
      -1
      5 July 2015 13: 48
      Quote: MIKHAN
      They didn’t finish seeing ..

      well, yes, they gloriously hung a pendulum on Tukhachevsky, right up to the 39th they gave them big pieces of Ukraine and Belarus.
  17. +8
    5 July 2015 10: 36
    The Taliban destroyed the historical monument of Buddha, which stood for a millennium, ISIS destroys historical monuments in Iraq and Syria - they are uneducated savages and barbarians ...
    How do the "cultured and enlightened Europeans" differ from them - the Poles and the Balts, with the Ukrainians who have pushed to them, who are fighting with maniacal zeal against monuments?
    1. The Trick-22
      -2
      5 July 2015 11: 22
      Quote: Nyrobsky
      Taliban destroyed

      Do not bother all in a bunch. Absolutely different motivation. Wahhabis and the grave of the mother of the Prophet destroyed.
      Quote: Nyrobsky
      with Ukrainians pushed to them, who are fighting manic zeal with monuments?
      in fairness, it should be recognized that replicated Leninism does not represent artistic value. And in general, the war with monuments is the cost of any revolution, we are no exception.
  18. +1
    5 July 2015 10: 36
    We must remind the Polish comrades that in Crimea in February 2014, some also wanted to demolish the monuments. Everyone knows how it all ended.
  19. +1
    5 July 2015 10: 38
    "We grew up. Russians have not been here for a long time."

    The Poles seem to want the Russians to come back there. Well, "we have passed, passed half the world with you, if necessary we will repeat it."
  20. +17
    5 July 2015 10: 41
    Here is a picture in the subject ..... only Poland and the Baltic states should be attributed, since they all have one sponsor.
  21. +4
    5 July 2015 10: 43
    wretched, bliiiin! am Enough "courage" to fight with the fallen ... The second time the heroes were killed ...
  22. 0
    5 July 2015 10: 44
    Nova Sul
    stop
    Srul again. Yes
  23. +5
    5 July 2015 10: 44
    Cynicism, arrogance, disgusting ... There is a time for everything: sooner or later they will regret it.
  24. +2
    5 July 2015 10: 47
    Something Krzysztofs snapping, snapping too much. Ms. Shushanina ishsho zhabazaryat, Hadenyshy. And everything is simple, I think - the amount of genetic debris is increasing, and humanity unconsciously begins to strive for hara-kiri. Then he will do business - and calm down for 50-70 years. Cycle
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  26. +5
    5 July 2015 10: 49
    mockery of our memorials elevated to the rank of state policy in Poland

    Our Victory haunts the Anglo-Saxons and their prostitutes. And the Polish government mastered the profession of a prostitute 100%hi
  27. +6
    5 July 2015 10: 51
    Somehow, at the Military Review, someone voiced a good proposal, which I fully support, to create a "Alley of Ingratitude" in Russia, on which monuments to Russian soldiers of all generations who have been vandalized should be placed. In Europe, and not only, such monuments are becoming less and less.
  28. +4
    5 July 2015 10: 53
    And what MEMORIAL near Katyn they demand from us? With horseradish?
    By the way, we also grew up. A long time ago. And we do not have Poles either. But Russia, not Poland. If only because we know that other people's meanness and vileness is not an excuse for their own vileness and vileness. On that and stand. And we will stand!
    1. +2
      5 July 2015 15: 50
      "And what MEMORIAL near Katyn do they demand from us?"
      I don’t know what you mean, but the memorial has long been standing.
      "A grandiose memorial complex for Polish officers was built near Smolensk. In the center of the composition is a letter from Beria with Stalin's resolution laid across the page. And not a word that this document was rejected as evidence by the Russian Constitutional Court in 1992.
      Deputy Ilyukhin conducted his investigation of the Katyn case. Defended the Soviet version. In the summer of 2010, he made a sensational statement about the massive falsification of historical documents at the highest level during the time of Yeltsin.

      Every year Polish delegations go to Katyn, and federal and regional officials repent "for what they have done" before them. In April, the 2010-th in Smolensk crashed on the government side, the leadership of Poland was lost, hurrying to another repentance.

      It is necessary to fully disclose the picture of the Katyn tragedy in order not only to eliminate one more white spot in recent history, but also to remove the political aspect of this problem. "

      I read in another article that copying the materials of the Katyn case is now taking place. 170 volumes. As the volume ends, these are transferred to the Poles. As soon as they have all the materials, this will give them the opportunity to apply to the court on a full basis, demanding compensation from us.
      There is a video with a speech by Deputy Ilyukhin, where he speaks of exposing the falsification of documents about Katyn.
  29. +1
    5 July 2015 10: 55
    “Times have changed. We grew up. There are no Russians here for a long time, ”he added.

    Oh, how would he not jinx soldier
  30. +1
    5 July 2015 10: 55
    For such tricks, you need an adequate symmetric answer to the n-degree. Only tough measures are able to put this overwhelming uninvited nation, which has believed in its exclusivity, in an acceptable framework of behavior. Another language, as history shows, they do not want to understand.
    By the way, if you carefully looked at the photo, the monument was destroyed with an excavator American corporation "CATERPILLAR"
    1. The Trick-22
      +1
      5 July 2015 11: 40
      Quote: FIREMAN
      By the way, if you carefully looked at the photo, the monument was destroyed with the help of an excavator of the American corporation "CATERPILLAR"

      So what? What is this sacred sign? That Belarus is not being exploited in Poland?
      1. +1
        5 July 2015 13: 50
        Explain popularly. Take a brand new and brilliant CAT and very carefully carry out an action for shipment to the homeland by the freight train of the Katyn Memorial and the monument TU-154. An eye for an eye. But we must have iron eggs and not yell that we are not barbarians. Pre-warn the Poles about the action.
    2. +1
      5 July 2015 12: 48
      Quote: FIREMAN
      By the way, if you carefully looked at the photo, the monument was destroyed with an excavator American corporation "CATERPILLAR"

      The bulldozer is not to blame for the fact that he is an American company and that it is he who is used to demolish the monument. One way or another, we all take advantage of the achievements of the West - the same IBM PC-compatible computers, Windows, Android, etc., the Internet, HD-TV, European and American cars, clothes of Western brands. The USSR copied a lot of Western things, with or without a license.
      Dill has been killing DNR citizens from Soviet weapons for a year now. Their modern T-64s are modernization of still Soviet projects, they bombed Slavyansk from Russian Su-24 / 25s. Let's accuse Sukhoi and Morozov of genocide of citizens of Novorossiya. In Afghanistan, the spirits killed our soldiers from Soviet Kalashnikovs, RPGs, shot down our planes and helicopters from Strela MANPADS - are their designers also to blame that their weapons got to the Mujahideen?
  31. 0
    5 July 2015 10: 59
    Poles are smelly !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  32. +1
    5 July 2015 11: 01
    (C) “Times have changed. We have grown. There are no Russians here for a long time, ”he added.

    This will have to be fixed, without an older one they will break firewood ... Thank you for the invitation, and the nature of emptiness does not tolerate. Will you be Russian!
  33. +1
    5 July 2015 11: 06
    Our state looks weak, any European mongrel strives to bite. Shame, in a word. We didn’t give a damn about our souls, but we can only bleat, they say, there is no limit to our indignation. When someone from the government has already grown eggs to show indignation, and not feigned anger.
    1. The Trick-22
      -1
      5 July 2015 12: 17
      Quote: Lockout
      show indignation

      What is it like? Do you want to throw eggs at the Polish Embassy?
  34. 0
    5 July 2015 11: 10
    Quote: Nyrobsky
    How do the "cultured and enlightened Europeans" differ from them - the Poles and the Balts, with the Ukrainians who have pushed to them, who are fighting with maniacal zeal against monuments?


    Nothing. The same savages, only late ...
  35. 0
    5 July 2015 11: 11
    Russia has no friends ... No!
    Accepting this as an axiom, it will be easier to live.
    I am totally against any "brothers"! We don't need them! Without such "brothers" - the air is cleaner, the sleep is better, the wallet is fuller.
    I am only confused by our government: why are Polish monuments in our country still not destroyed? why are diplomatic relations still not broken? Why are not all citizens of Poland sent from the country? etc.
    Only mirror measures - give results and cool the hot heads of idiots.
  36. +2
    5 July 2015 11: 11
    Not so long ago I had to be with a thoroughbred Pole for some time. He speaks a little Russian, I speak English a little, but they understood each other. For a long time he tried to convince me that "earthly happiness" is European, but most importantly, he killed me with the question - "Why does Russia rise so high? After all, living in the middle is much more comfortable." To which I replied with a question - "In the middle, is that in F ..... e chtoli? No, dear, it's you already without us." This question is the whole essence of the modern gamerope, they all want to be in IT.
    For the next 17 hours we were silent ...
  37. +2
    5 July 2015 11: 13
    The Poles have now another priority is the US ass. And the more you lick it and kiss it, the closer you are to American democracy. Even you can deserve a host to bark at an enemy. And he will allow you to abuse his dirty cowards for that. hi
  38. 0
    5 July 2015 11: 19
    A surprisingly mean and shameful act expressively characterizing Polish customs. Demand some gigantic territories for their memorials and, at the same time, demolish our monuments. And at the same time pretend that nothing happened! Nothing personal, just love of the beautiful. I understand that the Poles were appointed Europeans, but something human should have been in them.
  39. +5
    5 July 2015 11: 20
    That was the monument before demolition.
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  42. +3
    5 July 2015 11: 28
    Quote: Observer2014
    And what about the monument to Kachinsky with a drunken retinue?

    it’s time to demolish it yourself for a while smoked on the plane the air vents were opened and let's not forget about the air conditioners
  43. 0
    5 July 2015 11: 30
    Close the embassy, ​​send all government services, enough already "playing" with "partners"
    1. The Trick-22
      -1
      5 July 2015 13: 22
      Quote: 31rus
      Close the embassy, ​​send all public services

      for what? Are we at war?
  44. +1
    5 July 2015 11: 31
    I studied at the 14 SGV High School in Swinoujscie (I can not vouch for the accuracy of writing). I can assure all those who comment that the attitude of the Poles towards the Russians at that time was negative. When we went to school to lay flowers on Victory Day, there were cases when chicken eggs and tomatoes were thrown at us. It was in 1964. Polish police were not very zealous for scoundrels. The next year, everything was repeated. Poles throughout their history fought with us. As a result, they lost and lost many lands and access to the Black Sea. They have a hatred towards us at the genetic level, not all of course, but very many. In 1945, during the population exchange, 1 million Poles were evicted from the USSR to Poland. They all took and evicted. And they sent us 500tys. Ukrainians (when they evicted, they all took the same thing). They will hate us all their lives, we are enemies to them. By the way the descendants of 500tys. Ukrainians resettled from Poland do not really like us, as events in the Donbass and Odessa have shown.
  45. +4
    5 July 2015 11: 38
    It is time for the new president to fly to Smolensk, they are waiting impatiently there.
  46. +2
    5 July 2015 11: 45
    And what a long way to go to coordinate with the Belarusians and demolish the monuments with us, as they do not correspond to the truth, because they already blame us for the execution of their soldiers and officers, and the clown even went to the opening and even repented
  47. 0
    5 July 2015 11: 45
    In Russia they talk about the following: Ivan, who does not remember kinship. Well, here we can say: Yanek, who does not remember kinship.
  48. +6
    5 July 2015 11: 48
    I remember in my childhood I was very surprised by the words of a neighbor who went through the war as part of a rifle regiment. He said that the meanest attitude towards Soviet soldiers was in Poland, and that the Germans were more honest than the Poles. To me, a fanatic of "Four Tankmen and a Dog" then it was not clear. Now it is clear.
  49. +1
    5 July 2015 11: 50
    “Times have changed. We have grown up. Russians have not been here for a long time,” he added, “but the Polish sh *** and, as they were in power, remained.
  50. +3
    5 July 2015 11: 50
    Well, you need to beat the Europeans by the wallet, so they understand everything. Because they don’t understand everything else. Let them eat their food further ... By the way, in Georgia, too, the destroyed monument was not restored. In general, it seems to me that the peoples of Europe are not able to live free, without a master. They constantly need a lord over them. And these monuments remind them that at one time their lord was taken away from them and they lived free. And they try to forget it.
  51. 0
    5 July 2015 11: 50
    The Poles have never loved Russia, and I don’t think they ever will. Perhaps there will be a mess in Europe, they will be the first to fall under the threat. Or maybe they should supply the T 90 for memory in Warsaw and Krakow? Let them look sometimes.
  52. or
    +2
    5 July 2015 11: 50
    You destroy your history, your memory, your mind. One can only feel sorry for such people.
  53. 0
    5 July 2015 12: 07
    Quote: 53-Sciborskiy
    - Mom, I have a control tomorrow!
    - Do not worry, son - now we will repeat everything. The capital of Germany?
    - Berlin.
    - The capital of France?
    - Berlin. Mom, give us something more complicated.
    - The capital of Poland?
    - Berlin.
    “How smart you are, Adolf!”

    2020 Retired Obama walks into a bar in New York. Everyone congratulates him on the fact that Europe has become ours. He is so happy that this is his merit.
    He drinks and leaves.
    - How much do I have to pay?
    - 145 rubles.
  54. 0
    5 July 2015 12: 08
    I don’t understand somehow Pshekov? Either they are against fascism (the Volyn massacre), or they are demolishing monuments. It’s time to decide on your orientation; Berlin obviously won’t save you.
  55. 0
    5 July 2015 12: 08
    ""Times have changed. We have grown up. There are no Russians here for a long time""...

    This means that soon there will be Germans again... after all, 70 years have already passed in Europe without war... And history, according to science, develops in a spiral, with repetitions, but in a new quality and at a new level...

    PS And let those whose monuments you did not destroy, and whom you did not so furiously pour slop on, help you in your defense...
  56. +1
    5 July 2015 12: 36
    What's the point of expressing indignation? The Polish ambassador should be declared persona non grata, and with him half of the embassy staff. Then it will be their turn to be indignant.
  57. +1
    5 July 2015 12: 45
    Mayor of Nova Sul Vadim Tishkevich said that the monument was “ugly, always dirty due to rude inscriptions

    It’s not up to the mayors to decide about beauty, but as for being dirty because of the inscriptions, in clean Europe they forgot the rule: it’s clean not where they clean, but where they don’t litter.
    And most importantly, you need to keep an eye on your Nazis, otherwise Russian restoration teams will come and rebuild everything and everyone, even to the point of replacing the foundation in the ruling “elite” itself.
  58. 0
    5 July 2015 13: 09
    idiots what can I say. Over there in Lithuania, too, all the monuments were demolished. but they would have left everything. There would now be a bunch of tourists wanting to see the Soviet country. and there's nothing to see there at all. Imagine that the Germans would now demolish everything that the Romans built :D
    1. The Trick-22
      0
      5 July 2015 13: 26
      Quote: sieras
      Imagine that the Germans would now demolish everything that the Romans built :D

      what did the Romans build in Germany?
  59. +3
    5 July 2015 13: 09
    Sharik looked at this and thought, “Why did I help Janek?” And hobbled home to Siberia...
  60. +1
    5 July 2015 13: 37
    Why, they don’t even honor or respect their fallen warriors. Well, then why ask, is it possible to talk to them and is it even worth it?
  61. sl3
    +1
    5 July 2015 14: 52
    Pimps from Pind. Osiya ordered their prostitutes to be demolished. Since the owner ordered, then it’s necessary. The six who do not have their own opinion and dignity. So you will stand like a cancer all your life.
  62. 0
    5 July 2015 15: 03
    Where does it say that any monument dedicated to Soviet soldiers should stand forever? After all, this monument is not a brotherly grave of Soviet soldiers and not a temple or shrine dedicated to them. It is only a concrete structure, which perhaps at the moment was preventing the construction of a branch of the city road? Local residents or local authorities once erected this monument and they have the right to demolish it. After all, the monument was not built for Soviet money. In Poland, they still honor the memory of Soviet soldiers. No one destroys cemeteries of Soviet soldiers. Of course, demolishing monuments is not good, but threatening us with revenge and hellfire for this is ridiculous.
    1. +2
      5 July 2015 15: 30
      the agreement of February 24, 1994 between Russia and Poland states. Any actions not only with burials, but also with monuments to Soviet liberators and Soviet victims of the war on Polish territory must be carried out in agreement with the Russian side. In this case, a direct violation of an international treaty
    2. +1
      5 July 2015 15: 45
      Quote: alfons xv
      .After all, the monument was not built for Soviet money

      But the Polish land is watered with the blood of Soviet people and covered with their bodies, so that those Poles who were given the opportunity to continue living and give birth to children would then violate their memory. After things like this, do you want to be treated with respect?
  63. 0
    5 July 2015 15: 14
    Warsaw must finally understand that the “war of monuments” unleashed in Poland is fraught the most negative consequences, responsibility for which will rest entirely with its initiators,” the statement says.
    They even have their own coat of arms with the same excavator. And, by the way, don’t it seem to the Psheks that such statements from the Foreign Ministry of a nuclear power are the very last warning?
  64. -2
    5 July 2015 15: 15
    Quote: Teberii
    The destruction of historical memory requires a new Polish history.

    And justice requires an adequate response - the demolition of all monuments to the Poles. We haven't had psheks for a long time.
    1. 0
      5 July 2015 19: 24
      We are not savages. The war on monuments is the lot of the flawed ISIS, crests and Poles. A savage is frightened by a culture and history higher than his savage one, so he destroys it. A bearer of a higher culture looks at the primitive crafts of a savage purely from an ethnographic point of view and will never destroy it. So the vandals, shocked by Roman culture, demolished it to the right and left
  65. +2
    5 July 2015 15: 15
    CATTLE! My uncle died in Poznan on January 26, 1945, liberating them from the Nazis. They are not worth his life - a 21 year old guy...
  66. +1
    5 July 2015 16: 22
    Impudence and arrogance, Polish nature.
  67. +1
    5 July 2015 17: 37
    What if the memorial in Katyn is leveled with a bulldozer? How nice it will be for the psheks
  68. +1
    5 July 2015 18: 03
    Quote: Teberii
    The destruction of historical memory requires a new Polish history.

    They are ready to bend over backwards in front of their masters. They were and remain enemies.
  69. +2
    5 July 2015 18: 53
    Monument to Soviet and Polish soldiers demolished in Poland


    Popular wisdom says: - Do not do good, there will be no evil. This is true of Poles, of all Poles without exception. The point was to save Krakow and restore Warsaw, so that now we could receive such a thank you?!
  70. +1
    5 July 2015 20: 44
    The psheks are cutting the ropes... They won’t swim to the “shore”, they are defective. They won’t expect a “lifebuoy” from us...
  71. +1
    5 July 2015 20: 58
    So the oak trees have grown in Poland!
  72. 0
    5 July 2015 22: 00
    Let the Poles know that we will not make historical mistakes again!!!
    1. 0
      5 July 2015 23: 14
      Let the Poles know that we will not make historical mistakes again. WELL, WELL Really. Don't tell me, it will be better.
  73. 0
    5 July 2015 22: 51
    Quote: Speaker
    Quote: alfons xv
    .After all, the monument was not built for Soviet money

    But the Polish land is watered with the blood of Soviet people and covered with their bodies, so that those Poles who were given the opportunity to continue living and give birth to children would then violate their memory. After things like this, do you want to be treated with respect?

    And from all European countries, it is on the territories of the Polish state that, thanks to the efforts of Polish society and the Polish government, the largest number of monuments and cemeteries for Soviet soldiers who fell in Poland are buried. But the truth is that there has been such a trend to subject history to revision, and in connection with this trend to move monuments to other places or carry out the demolition of monuments, but this is already a matter of policy for the current ruling Polish political elite. Ordinary Poles have nothing in common with these atrocities. And as for respect, you may not respect me personally, but it seems to me that I personally did not give any no reason for anyone not to respect me.
    1. +2
      5 July 2015 23: 12
      Quote: alfons xv
      .Ordinary Poles have nothing in common with these atrocities

      Agree. Dont Have. Only the question of “mass processing of the population’s consciousness” continues to this day.
      Today I spoke with a simple Pole. Like all “enlightened” people, he makes an excellent argument about the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact. But when I talked about the Beck-Ribbentrop Pact, I only blinked my eyes (it’s clear that I had never really heard of such a thing), and continued to talk about “neutral nonsense.”
      And if you watch the History channel at least more or less regularly, you will agree that the interpretation of events in the life of the Polish state is presented, at a minimum, askew. And that's putting it mildly.
      PS
      Come to Gdynia. Cross the bridge over the railway tracks in the Novaya Nauta area. There, on this bridge, there is a “visual propaganda” about the “Polish Heavenly Hundred” in memory of the December events of 1980. This is a song from the same "opera".
  74. 0
    5 July 2015 23: 55
    The demolition of monuments is taking place for a future in which you and I do not exist. There was no need to destroy the country and the Department of Internal Affairs since 1985.
  75. 0
    5 July 2015 23: 55
    Quote: stalkerwalker
    Quote: alfons xv
    .Ordinary Poles have nothing in common with these atrocities

    Agree. Dont Have. Only the question of “mass processing of the population’s consciousness” continues to this day.
    Today I spoke with a simple Pole. Like all “enlightened” people, he makes an excellent argument about the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact. But when I talked about the Beck-Ribbentrop Pact, I only blinked my eyes (it’s clear that I had never really heard of such a thing), and continued to talk about “neutral nonsense.”
    And if you watch the History channel at least more or less regularly, you will agree that the interpretation of events in the life of the Polish state is presented, at a minimum, askew. And that's putting it mildly.
    PS
    Come to Gdynia. Cross the bridge over the railway tracks in the Novaya Nauta area. There, on this bridge, there is a “visual propaganda” about the “Polish Heavenly Hundred” in memory of the December events of 1980. This is a song from the same "opera".

    I agree, the brainwashing has started and is in full swing. The Poles are no exception in the process of this washing, which also applies to Russians, because they are also brainwashed. No, I don’t watch Polish television channels at all. They show and talk nonsense there. I won’t come to Gdynia to look at some bridges. It seems to me that that this bridge and the propaganda near it relate to the event of December 1970, and not 1980. It was in December 1970 that the Polish Army used firearms in the area of ​​this bridge against a gang of slackers and lazy people, killing maybe 5 people, it’s a pity that so few. such thing .
    1. +3
      6 July 2015 00: 23
      Quote: alfons xv
      I won’t come to Gdynia to look at any bridges

      Freedom - the will.
      Quote: alfons xv
      It seems to me that this bridge and the propaganda near it relate to the event of December 1970, and not 1980. It was in December 1970 that the Polish Army used firearms in the area of ​​this bridge against a gang of loafers and lazy people, killing maybe 5 people, it’s a pity that so few

      Well... there is a street on January 10 in Gdynia. Like st. named after the Army of Ludova.
      About "bridges".
      In December 1980, many Soviet sailors were in Gdynia and Gdansk. And many of them remember to this day how the bursts of BMP machine guns roared. Just then, the head of the PPR, General Wojciech Jaruzelski, was forced to give the order to disperse the Polish Maidan, in the forefront of which were banal bandits and looters. It was then that the leader of Solidarity, Lech Walesa, appeared to the world - an ordinary electrician from the Gdansk shipyard. V.I. Lenin.
      It was then that the “Polish free press,” subsidized by funds from the United States, accused the country’s leadership of killing its own people. The miners followed the example of the workers at the Gdansk and Gdynia shipyards and went on strike.
      What preceded this? - Banal empty store shelves (by Polish standards). The only problem was that there were products for empty shelves and products. The shortage on the shelves was artificially created.
      In general, at that time there were both “vonyzh dits” and a corrupt regime Yanukovych Jaruzelski.
      There is nothing new under the sun..
      PS Something tells me that you also don’t know about the scandal caused at the funeral of W. Jaruzelski last spring by “supporters of Polish European integration”. Which fits well into the concept of the type
      Quote: alfons xv
      I won’t come to Gdynia to look at any bridges

      God is your judge.
    2. +3
      6 July 2015 00: 30
      Quote: alfons xv
      I agree, the brainwashing has started and is in full swing. The Poles are no exception in the process of this washing, which also applies to Russians, because they are also brainwashed

      But here we should not blindly repeat the cries of Svidomo like “Russian media also lie!"
      The litmus test is the junta's decision to ban the broadcast of Russian TV channels on the territory of former Ukraine in all bands and frequencies.
      Ukrainian in Russia watch can. But personally, I don’t watch it. Because it was difficult to ever imagine such moronism, such distortion of facts and insult to the fraternal people and their president.
  76. 0
    6 July 2015 03: 28
    Did anyone expect something else from them? For them, we are aggressors, invaders, but the fascists, probably, in their opinion, are defenders... In any case, we are enemies for them, especially since from morning to evening they pour propaganda into their ears that we sleep and see, as if take over their Poland. Here they are sick and sick...
  77. 0
    6 July 2015 06: 30
    what can we say when the Prime Minister of Poland himself claims
    This is, we will quarrel with the Germans and the French, since we are sucking off the Americans like the last fraters. The problem with Poland is that we have cheap national pride and low self-esteem. This is Negritude.
    http://ruposters.ru/archives/6187
  78. 0
    14 July 2015 19: 14
    The original Pole, no, they are similar, so independent, they blame everything on their elite. They themselves constantly choose them, either naked Russophobes, or moderate Russophobes. They idolize them, they try for them. But as he writes here in the comments.