Military Review

About special people

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I will try, perhaps, to express myself in a relatively new format for myself. The attention of those interested is invited to “illustrated interview” with an experienced commander of the Special Forces group. Ivan kindly answered my questions on 27, relating mainly to the military and domestic aspect of the life of the fighters of the modern military special forces. And I tried to pick up to the story the corresponding photos taken at different times in different parts and units of Special Forces, special forces of the Airborne Forces and reconnaissance of motorized infantry.


About special people


A special task group is assigned some kind of task, it is determined that it is necessary to spend seven to ten days autonomously. How is the preparation made? How and by whom is it determined what to take with you?
On equipment, in most cases, each intelligence officer makes a decision individually when the commander or senior commander brings to him what approximate direction of the task, how many days they leave. Everyone prepares his own equipment for himself, understanding what he needs for a specified period, and the group commander already exercises direct control. Now the equipment for us is good, before it was weaker. Nevertheless - the fighters are trying to buy some items on their own. They try to keep things warm and light. Basically, so that Gore-Tex (approx. Avt. - here I mean the membrane in general, and not just the products of the specified brand) was. Shine a lot of attention pay. The most important thing is shoes, anyway.



The scout-sniper of the special forces of the airborne forces at the training exit.

What kind of shoes do you choose?
Bertsy, mostly American before, took the firm Crispi. Now there are many others that use modern technologies and materials. We need waterproof, breathable and warm boots for the entire period of the release. During the performance of a combat mission, shoes are not removed at all: you are in it and you sleep. If there is an opportunity, they also buy clothes themselves: jackets, trousers made of membrane material, they do not let the water through and in such clothes it is comfortable in any weather. B snow, for example, you can lie down and not get wet.

Socks use different footcloths too. When there is no membrane footwear, it is possible to use female gaskets in the usual way. They are simply put in the shoes, as an absorbent, sorbent. If there are no good shoes, then ordinary berets use. Before leaving, they are greased with some goose fat, all pores are thoroughly soaked. Just take any fat or even lard and soak so that the shoes become more moisture resistant.



One of the participants of the shooting competition among the staff of special units at a briefing. Those same vaunted American Italian shoes Crispi.



A soldier of one of the units of Special Forces after overcoming a water barrier by swimming. The fighter uses berets from among the most "simple".

Is it necessary to wear all the scouts in the group in the same camouflage?
In most cases, special forces intelligence officers do not particularly adhere to such a rule that everyone is about to go about the same. At least in previous years, when the provision was not very (in the two thousandth, sometime before 2010). Now the supply is quite good and the equipment is good, and therefore the groups often look uniform in appearance. Previously, everyone bought almost everything to himself. So it turned out externally diverse group. By and large, this does not affect the performance of the combat mission. Specification - the group commander and radio operator should not stand out from the crowd. If everything is more or less the same, then visually from the first time it is impossible to determine which of them commands and by whom.



The commander of one of the groups with his deputy clarify the situation. Both are armed with noiseless AS "Val" (Automatic Special).

On the Internet, there are constantly disputes that a certain camouflage pattern is better than another. Are there any observations on this?
The observations are as follows: in mountainous areas, usually “slides” are used, camouflage - in a wooded area. And what kind of a person is he there, “cartoons” or something else, these are disputes, separated from life, so to speak. Anyway, no individual improvements can not do.



The reconnaissance group of the 45 separate Guards Order of the Kutuzov Order of Alexander Nevsky Special Forces Regiment conducts mining of the bridge.
Magic "cartoons" and other camouflage drawings are presented in the range. Especially good fighter in the bushes and defocus.

How well has the current multi-layered uniform of VKBO clothes proved itself?
It seems to me that everything is quite convenient. At least warm if you wear everything according to the instructions. The idea is that if you just stand in this clothes, in everyday life, in everyday life - it is normal. And when you perform the task load is high, you constantly move: mostly in a T-shirt, vest and one jacket. Most often it is still a “hill”: a comfortable, durable thing that is used daily. And we definitely carry a replaceable set of dry clothes with us, so that you can change clothes when people stop or go to bed, are ambushed. In general, when you can take a break, immediately clothes change quickly to dry.



An officer of one of the Special Forces brigades demonstrates the Nikonov 5.45-mm Nikonov automatic rifle of the 1994 model of the year (AN-94 Abakan) in service.
At the serviceman clothes from the VKBO (all-season set of basic uniforms).



Soldiers of the Special Forces brigade before parachute jumps. Most in new form.



Hats with earflaps from VKBO kit. They look unusual, but quite comfortable (according to reviews of the military).





As for non-combat equipment, what they take with them, is there any “approved” minimum?
From food - depending on how many days you go. For example, the output for seven days, so should, in theory, be given seven daily diets (IRP). But more than three and a half no one takes, and then they divide, leaving only the main products to remove excess weight. Every extra kilogram to be borne by yourself. Well, the water is natural. Winter is easier, you can use the snow: melt, boil or add a disinfecting tablet. Without water, nowhere.

The rest is individual: thermomugs, burners. One needs a fashionable burner with a piezoelectric element, the other one strikes matches, the third uses special tablets for heating water and food. Those that are in dry rations, we do not use. One hundred meters it is quite possible to smell the smell of such a burning pill, even more, perhaps.



A special forces unit on a halt. At my request, he opened the package with the IRP (individual diet) and tried to put aside what he would take with him on the task.
It turned out, just to say a little.



Basically, stew and lard stewed in a handful under the name "fit". Everything else has been classified as "luxury."
About food (in terms of IRP and foreign analogs) followed by a separate video.

Is there any minimum of "water supply"?
Two or three "poltorashki" each for the first time, in any way. From my experience I can say: from my subordinates during the task I demand to ensure the minimum flow of water. Three hundred grams of water in the morning (a cup of tea) and the next mug only in the evening. This is also three hundred grams of water. During the movement itself on a task, I categorically forbid drinking water. Maybe, of course, they are somewhere on the sly and tried to drink at the stops, well, this is on their conscience.

It’s not even the case that someone can violate the requirement of the commander. The body, when the load on him is high - is mobilized. Fighters go, go, and here time! water! And the body immediately relaxes. If you drink a hundred, two hundred, three hundred grams of water - the body immediately stops working as it should. That is, he relaxes at all: do not go hunting, or do not want to do something. Therefore, drinking mode is such an important factor, especially when high loads are in progress.



Group SPN makes a long hiking transition.



The group's sniper on the march is also difficult: one must carry, among other things, the SVD sniper rifle and another silent VSS “Vintorez” (special sniper rifle).

Since we all take about the same amount of water, after a few days I myself see how much I have left, and how much the group has. Let's say I have half left, and the people are running out of water: it means they drank without a team. This is an unnecessary problem - you need to look at the map, how to find a place where to get water, if there is such an opportunity. If there is no such place or opportunity, then you have to endure. It happens, for example, for seven days to move from morning to night, to search. And in the evening, for example, when an ambush action is planned or a rest - in the evening you can quench your thirst.



Halt. Here you can quench your thirst and refill flasks with water.

Often one has to do without local water or face poor water quality. This is a common occurrence. With a successful scenario, the river or stream will fit perfectly for drinking, if there is no bottled water with you. It often happens that the task is set for three to four days, and it will last ten days or more. Then the food is over. Periodically we are confronted with the fact that the task is superplannedly extended. Then the snow and even the puddles are quite suitable. We use tablets "Akvatabs" for water purification, which are in rations (IRP). The water after them, of course, nasty and smelly, but it becomes suitable, drinking.

How is water transported? Directly in plastic bottles?
Yes, in simple bottles, "one and a half". Or in the Camelbacks. The weight is conveniently distributed, the system is neat, it does not create noise when it moves. Thing is good.



A Special Forces unit soldier demonstrates his personal camelback type hydrator.



Such a drinking system with a capacity of about 3-x liters allows you to drink on the go.

Have you ever had trouble with poor water? Diarrhea or indigestion?
I can say that this does not happen during a war. In practice, this is a very rare case, because the body is so mobilized to work that it does not take anything. People do not get sick. But they may get sick after returning when they came back. Here the body relaxes, and you can get sick. On the assignment there were isolated instances of someone getting sick with something. Just a high load, the responsibility is quite high. A person is mobilized, the body works to its fullest and takes nothing: neither the disease nor the microbes.

Suppose the group stopped to rest. Does everyone have their own water and food, everyone eats his own or something goes to a common pot?
Everyone eats his own. A group is usually divided into small cells, for three people, for example. Inside the "twos" or "triples" - already as a deal. If someone from the group has eaten all of his own and wanted to eat again, he, of course, will be given, but the corresponding bewilderment will arise: what are you, dear comrade? The same thing with the water situation. It all comes with time, with coherence. The group grinds in, the second or third move and everyone already knows everything.

Any stimulants, energy on tasks are used?
Especially not. I, at least, never used. Is that homemade energy drinks sometimes do when necessary. Well, coffee. Themselves people are preparing high-mountain mixes: chocolate, brandy and lemon. Of the very common - dried fruit, candy. "Snickers" are very nutritious and high-calorie, give a lot of energy and weigh little.

It was the case that “racing” (author's note) meant annual competitions of groups of special forces, officially referred to as all-army competitions of reconnaissance units of the Ground Forces of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation “Green Trail”) came the stern guys - they ate “sneakers” With mayonnaise. I was just overwhelmed!

The main thing is not what you eat, but what it gives you. Eat something you can, anything, in fact. In mayonnaise, mostly fats, fats - they are “long” and needed for long transitions, and “fast” carbohydrates - on the contrary. If you feel that you can no longer stomp - once! and ate candy. It gives “fast” carbohydrates, everything is quickly absorbed and you are again “briefly” again for a short time.





Gentle, mayonnaise distribution of high-calorie and easily digestible chocolate bars.



Sniper on a halt. The fighter in the background gives rest to his feet, throwing them higher on the backpack.

Intimate question. If the task is such that it is not necessary to "shine" anywhere at all - how is the question of the administration of natural needs organized?
Inside the "two" or "three" this question is solved in the standard way. One observes, one rests, one necessarily covers. He dug a hole, did business in it, buried everything, disguised it, left. To leave no trace behind. Winter in the snow. If you lie and you can not stand up, then lying down. In the package, in the sand, for example. But this is more for snipers who go on the task. In groups there is easier: more people. The task to lie still for days and observe is usually not set.



An officer of one of the Special Forces brigades demonstrates a foreign-made sniper rifle.



Sniper pair moves in search of a place for "lying".



The elder couple gesture makes it clear to the partner - “we go to bed”.



The partner confirms with a gesture - “understood”.





How much staff in the group will be able to replace each other?
The group has a commander, his deputy, a radio operator. These are the main people. In addition to them there are scouts-arrows, scouts, machine-gunners, scouts-doctors. When need is all interchangeable. For example, take the medical scout. He is the same scout as the others, he just knows more about medicine. But if he needs help, the rest will be able to give. Or a machine gunner. He has a life with a machine gun, knows him perfectly, but if there is a need, then the others can take a machine gun and fire. We have enough interchangeable all.

Who is the most difficult job in the group?
The most difficult job is probably a radio operator. Because besides the fact that he carries with him everything the same as an ordinary intelligence officer, he also has to carry a radio station, which also weighs a lot. These are rather narrow specialists; they should know a lot, ranging from the performance characteristics of the radio to the requirements for the place from which to go on the air, and this is quite difficult. In second place is the group commander and his deputy. Heavy and machine gunner: the weight of the machine gun is great, strong guys must be strong. Well, all the others are needed as interconnecting mosaics: each is needed in its own direction.

I will say about my group: we always try to unload the machine gunner as much as possible, it is physically harder for him than others. He has a very large ammunition, carrying two thousand cartridges with him (approx. Avt. - one 7,62 × 54R machine-gun cartridge weighs approximately 25 grams). For one person it is hard. He takes the bulk of the cartridges, and the rest is distributed among his top three. Comrades, if the battle goes on, they will help with the machine gun, they will hand over the cartridges, help out to equip the tape. If one of the group gets tired and just fails, or gets out of strength due to the fact that he is dragging a lot of weight, and the rest are joyful and fun to move lightly - no one will feel good about it. I distribute to everyone a lot and equally so that everyone goes joyful and cheerful.

Each group commander himself decides who is with whom in the top three. This is such a small team that is constantly together on the task, this is such a combat unit. Sometimes the group commander intervenes in the affairs of the troika. For example, when you need to decide who and what to carry beyond what is necessary.



The machine gunner 45 special forces regiment in ambush.



A single 7,62-mm machine gun PKP "Pecheneg". In the Special Forces he began to meet more often than PKM, on the basis of which Pecheneg was created.



Scout-gunner 45 Airborne Regiment with a machine gun "Pecheneg".



The machine-gunner of one of the Special Forces brigades at the firing line. Armed with a Pecheneg machine gun.
Familiarization firing of the RSHG-2 rocket assault grenade with a thermobaric warhead.



The machine gunner of the SPN group covers the forcing of a water barrier by his comrades. Armed with a Pecheneg machine gun.



SWAT at the shooting range. Perhaps the only vivid complaint made by practitioners' gunners against Pechenega is the inconvenience of the positioning of the carrying handle.



Airborne Special Forces Group changes its combat position.

Are there any unofficial circumstances when a fighter asks to transfer him from group to group? It happens?
There is such, but very isolated cases. In a company, for example, a company commander can shuffle people with his power. A group commander will approach, say, and say to the company commander: this comrade does not fit in with his own qualities, you can translate him. But so, basically, the team that is initially - permanent. People go astray, grind each other over time. The composition of the group is constant. If a person, for example, falls ill before an assignment, usually it is not replaced by anyone, the group is not supplemented, it goes to the assignment as part of “minus one”. When they returned to the base - again, people hold together, friendship with families is common.

Is the authority of the group commander important in the process of performing the task?
Is important Authority indisputable!

Medicines. Does everyone have their own individual reserve or one large per group?
Medicaments - an individual first-aid kit for each of them has its own, standard, nothing else. What is now issued, the standard first-aid kit - in it, in principle, has everything you need.



In addition to the standard first-aid kit, the Special Forces soldiers at the competition additionally stocked up with such medicines.



First Aid Kit of a Medic Special Forces Airborne.

What is the most common medical “nuisance” in the course of completing a task?
In my century there was nothing terrible. Feet erase, of course, but if the legs are erased - he is to blame. Either the shoes are not very suitable, or did not take care that it was dry. In principle, nothing terrible and this is not: a couple of exits and legs are “ground”, become callused, rub off, as stone becomes. If a soldier serves in the Special Forces for a long time, then he does not rub anything. If you want your legs to be dry, pick up shoes, prepare shoes before going out. Well, if you don’t want it, then go as you can. If you erased your legs, then the problems of the Sheriff Indians do not care. You still can not get anywhere, you will just go. Of course, if someone rubs his feet and is already a burden for the whole group, no one will say anything good to him. This is also an incentive.



Fighter covers the crossing. Pay attention to the shoes.



He is. Back view. during the pedestrian movement, the legs were apparently sealed with a plaster. Preventively or on the basis of - I do not know.

Are there any common superstitions, omens? How do you feel about religion?
I can not remember about these. There is a tradition. Get together before leaving, sat on the track and go. Regarding religion - it does not matter to me who is a believing fighter or an atheist, it is important that he perform the task set. Believes, does not believe - this is his personal business by and large. If only he was not obsessed with religion so that it harms the service.

What kind of talismans special forces wears?
It happens. Mostly these are Orthodox butts, wearing protective belts. I didn’t notice anything else like that.

He drew attention to some fighters with tattoos. Hot topic?
Now on this score do not pay close attention, but it is better that there are no tattoos. This is an element that, under unfavorable conditions, can play a bad role. This is an extra sign. Especially if they knock out “For Airborne Forces!”, “For Special Forces!” Or something else like that. If something happens, you never know, if you get captured or somewhere else, you can pretend to be in an extreme case with some kind of hose that is incomprehensible. And then you op! No, my friend!

Here the thing is: it is not punishable. But personally, I am negative about tattoos. Not that I antagonize: if you want - if you are even on your forehead, but I don’t have a single one, and I haven’t even gotten a thought. It does not affect life in any way, nor does it accomplish the task. Only unmasks by indirect signs, one of the characteristic and easily remembered elements.



On the sniper's hand visible tattoo.



Perhaps one of the most common tattoos in special forces.



Machine gunner SPN also could not resist a tattoo.

Quite often, the Internet discusses the question about knives, about cold weapon special forces. Some believe that a real intelligence officer creeps silently towards the enemy and sticks a knife in his throat. It happens?
It happens, of course. To the cinema. A knife is a tool for us. For the case described, there is a silent weapon that operates at a distance. Do not crawl anywhere, do not give yourself away. At least, you can always get close to the enemy, from which you can destroy it from the same silent pistols or silent machine guns. However, no matter what anyone says, but crawling imperceptibly towards the person from behind, as in the films they show, is possible. But it is very long and very hard.

If a person is on duty, no matter how disorderly it is, he sensitively distinguishes sounds, especially at night, when they are heard far away. And the rustling movement immediately attracts attention, you can crawl to such a distance, but you will have to crawl a millimeter, and this is a very long time. Now everything is much simpler, the same silent pistol allows you to solve such problems from a distance of ten to fifteen meters.



Airborne Special Forces Scout is armed with an 7.62-mm AKM assault rifle with PBS (Silent Shooting Device).



A Scout demonstrates firing techniques from the PB (Pistol Silent).
Arms of the KGB of the USSR and soldiers of the army reconnaissance and sabotage groups were armed with such pistols.



Sniper SPN on the firing line with PB.



Externally, PB is similar to PM, but it has nothing to do with PM.



Sniper SPN conducts automatic fire from the AU "Val".



Sniper SPN removes the rubber eyecup from a telescopic sight mounted on the BCC "Vintorez".



BCC "Vintorez" allows you to fire bursts.



Scouts at the firing line. Armed with VSS "Vintorez" and AS "Val".



Dream! Automatic silent pistol (APB).



Silent version of the famous gun APS. Which, of course, is also a dream.



Outwardly shaky butt really is durable and surprisingly comfortable.



It is possible to fire from JSA without a silencer.



PSS pistol "Vul".



"Vul" provides silent and flameless shooting at a distance of up to 50 meters.
It shoots almost silently.



The fire from the MSS is a special patron SP-4. The complex PSS-SP-4 provides the maximum degree of muting sound.
Powder gases are cut off inside the liner, which ensures noiseless firing. Ammunition pierces through an army steel helmet at a distance of 25 meters.





LDC. Scout knives shooting: the first and second versions.



The instructor demonstrates scouts firing techniques from a knife. Beautiful phrase turned out.





You can shoot a knife with a scabbard on a blade.
There is no return, the sound of the shot is insignificant.



The shooting of the NRS-2 is conducted by special silent ammunition SP-4.



Do scouts have any knives?
Of course, every scout has his own knife. Open the jar, cut it, strip the wires. If there is a need, of course, you can also defeat with a knife. A good knife is nice. When he does not dull immediately, when he does not need to sharpen for a long time. My opinion - the knife is needed more for domestic needs. Well, just in case, if it really squeezes.



Scout sniper. Armed with VSS "Vintorez" and a shooting knife.



Knife scout can be used for its intended purpose, for example - to throw.



What do you think about colleagues from the number of "probable opponents"? Who is cooler?
I have my own opinion on this matter: it is not a matter of belonging to the SAS or the Israelis, and they have people who are poorly prepared and not prepared, and we have groups of an extraordinary level. Regarding the question “who is cooler?”: In combat situations, none of us encountered “group by group” SAS. And they and we are piece goods. The likelihood that one special forces group will collide with another enemy group ... that means both are worthless (laughs). This seems to me a rare, even unbelievable case for this to happen. Like snipers: two oncoming bullets hit each other. This is not tank battalions came together in hand-to-hand combat!

As for computer modeling on the Internet - who knows what parameters they come from when modeling, how can opponents be assessed? This is the level of “who will fence someone - a whale or an elephant?” It seems to me that everything depends only on the individual training of each fighter and the coherence of the group. And to compare the “coolness”, just looking on the Internet, how they run to the camera there, this, so to speak, is not a very revealing process. They perform some tasks and we do about the same. And how to compare, I do not know. Yes, we are following the "colleagues", no one has canceled open sources. They have nothing radically new in their preparation; there is no anything that would radically differ from us. There are nuances, of course.

In this sense, perhaps, even the experience of the Great Patriotic War will be more useful. We talked with veterans, sometimes we talk with old scouts - grandfathers, who, as they say, went with a knife and a knife to a German. An old, experienced reconnaissance officer, who had passed the war in the reconnaissance platoon, came and told how sabotage actions were carried out, how they landed. In this case, there is no progress, as such. The principle is the same, just the means change. Yesterday it was with a spear, and today with Vintorez. The principle of ambush does not change.

And an ambush is a creative affair. There are, of course, canons, but the main role is played by the group commander: how his brain works and how far he uses some non-standard approaches to the study of the terrain, the enemy. When, where and how to approach - this is an individual commander to think. In this sense, Afghanistan gave a lot of experience: conducting sabotage and ambushes, much was taken into account and revised — preserving the combat and marching order, where it looks, how it observes, how it moves, at what interval, the observation range, the distance for confident destruction, where further and so on. And this also comes with experience.

What are special methods of promoting a good fighter? Does the group commander somehow encourage his subordinate with his power?
By his authority - only according to our disciplinary regulations. If officially. And if unofficially, then there may be a gift of some kind, for example, or in some way to single out a person morally, psychologically. Here you are still rather weak, you do not reach it, or he does something better than you - take a look. The same is achieved and healthy competition. Sometimes the commander may apply to the higher command - it happens that people are presented with state awards. In most cases, they represent decent people, but anything can happen. That's life.

In a peaceful life, is the affiliation to SPN somehow demonstrated or, conversely, hidden?
I will speak for myself. Well, you serve and serve, do your job, your service, your tasks, devote your life to it. Some ingenious programmer does not walk down the street and does not shout that he is an awesome programmer. So it is with us. But there are, of course, all sorts of muddle ... (laughs).

What do wives and children think about serving a husband and father?
We have completely normal, normal families. Much, of course, depends on how informed the wife. This, of course, is not about service data, which is not transferred to any wives. I don’t tell my wife anything special about how I was cold, wet and sad to crawl somewhere. Returned from a business trip - everyone is happy, great! Well, and so - something can be told, but something does not need to be told at all: as they say - you know less, sleep better!
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  1. TAXR
    TAXR 30 June 2015 04: 50
    +15
    Plus article clearly. good
    1. panfil
      panfil 30 June 2015 12: 19
      +5
      I want to say simply: thanks for the article! I really liked it.
    2. Chiropractor
      Chiropractor 30 June 2015 12: 22
      +5
      very substantial comment! future marshal!
    3. prosto_rgb
      prosto_rgb 30 June 2015 18: 18
      +1
      I like it!!!
      Article good
  2. Mexsikanec
    Mexsikanec 30 June 2015 06: 46
    +1
    Offset !!!! Already remembered the army. I'll go pisyarik pump.
  3. Bort radist
    Bort radist 30 June 2015 06: 51
    +10
    I read it by breath. +
    In the taiga, after big transitions, I used strong tea + 3 tablespoons of milk powder and sugar. The food did not go on for hours. The usual patch is necessary and preventative for the most rubbed places, the heel, the thumb at the beginning of the season when the legs are not worn.
  4. tunes
    tunes 30 June 2015 07: 39
    +15
    the author wrote well and the commander did well - he didn’t stand out and did not build
    1. Bombardier
      Bombardier 30 June 2015 09: 54
      +2
      Quote: airs
      the author wrote well and the commander did well - he didn’t stand out and did not build


      Go to the site of this author, you will find a lot of interesting things in the archive. And he regularly adds interesting articles. I go to him first, if there is an article, then it is definitely worth it.
  5. Dragon-y
    Dragon-y 30 June 2015 07: 45
    +3
    It is not entirely clear in the photo: the box is carrying "for training", or why? Isn't it easier to get zinc out of there, or even to scatter the packs on backpacks? (although they know better ...)
  6. lotar
    lotar 30 June 2015 07: 50
    +6
    May God help these and other guys defending our homeland anywhere. If something happens, they will be the tip of our sword at the throat of a potential enemy.
  7. Baloo
    Baloo 30 June 2015 07: 51
    +2
    Not military, but friendly advice: Among the medicines, have a Versatis patch with lidocaine. The spray weighs more, and the patch at the recommendation of 12 hours, I wore for three days. Losing 50 grams of water causes dry mouth and thirst.
  8. VVooVVaa
    VVooVVaa 30 June 2015 08: 22
    +3
    I did not like it in the photo, the weapon is lying on the ground. what
    1. Bort radist
      Bort radist 30 June 2015 10: 44
      +3
      Quote: VVooVVaa
      I did not like it in the photo, the weapon is lying on the ground.

      I remember the landing on landing at the airport arrived preparing for loading. Three soldiers are sitting. The captain ordered help and indicated the direction. They rushed to execute, put machine guns on the ground. The punishment was instant, morally difficult. I got the impression that he specifically checked them for lice.
  9. Free wind
    Free wind 30 June 2015 08: 50
    +3
    From my own experience, you can’t eat for me, otherwise I’ll get drunk and die, a light breakfast, and then strong green tea, slightly salted. In the evening you can eat.
  10. Wolka
    Wolka 30 June 2015 09: 38
    +2
    for general acquaintance for the people it will come down, but he has nothing more to know, otherwise they will think of themselves as "Rambo" and begin to play war games from special forces everywhere ... hi
  11. nvn_co
    nvn_co 30 June 2015 09: 40
    +1
    Good article. That's how godfather told about his life, only when the weapon was not that, that and not that variety. Well, the Airborne Forces, as was the elite troops of Uncle Vasya, it is! It's nice to have something to be proud of! Ehhh, to tear to the chair for a couple of days and a few liters of stories ...
  12. RiverVV
    RiverVV 30 June 2015 09: 40
    +7
    We had a joke. At rest:

    - What do you have a sandwich with?
    - With stew. And you have?
    - Also with him. Swinging
    - Come on.

    Then I saw something similar in the cartoon "Hunting Season".
    Usually they didn’t drive us far. There was an old shooting range at fifteen kilometers - they usually ran to him. We left in the morning, returned by night. We were not fed with Snickers, but a loaf of bread and a can of stew - this is a must.
  13. rudolff
    rudolff 30 June 2015 10: 13
    +6
    Slightly surprised by the first and last photo from the selection with a pair of snipers in the snow in white masks. On the first one he "row" with his weapon in the snow, like a bulldozer, and on the last one bare hands in the snow without gloves, a rifle (it looks like an SVD) is stuffed with snow, on his right hand there is a gold ring. It's not serious somehow ...
    1. RiverVV
      RiverVV 30 June 2015 11: 10
      0
      Well, it’s clearly not from a combat photo. Who would let them shoot? From training.
      1. rudolff
        rudolff 30 June 2015 13: 12
        +3
        RiverVV, so in combat conditions this can still be understood, different circumstances may arise, but in training sessions ..? For the fact that so an instrument with optics in the snow rolls and rakes like a shovel, I would have received it from a trainer in a leach. For creeping in the snow without gloves, too. Fingers will freeze, become wooden. Well, the ring is simply not the topic. Not for a walk.
        1. RiverVV
          RiverVV 30 June 2015 15: 55
          0
          The problem is not great. If the optics are cold, then it will not be polluted and spoiled by snow. And about the gloves ... Tried to shoot them?
          1. rudolff
            rudolff 30 June 2015 16: 56
            +2
            It is not necessary to shoot with gloves, you can take it off already in position. As a last resort tactical "no fingers". You can't shoot "a lot" with blunt hands. All the same, the sniper, and not the "queen of the fields".
            Regarding optics ... Well, you can’t handle it like that. Slightly thawing, the breeze will ice. Also with the tool. Look at the last photo, the receiver is clogged with snow. And if you still get it in the cold? You can’t even remove it from the fuse.
            All this, of course, is not fatal, but somehow too careless for a sniper.
            1. RiverVV
              RiverVV 30 June 2015 18: 06
              0
              Have you tried running in "no fingers" in winter? Recommended in February. There is a lot of snow, and when you fall through, the experience is unforgettable. :)))
              Before the snow outside the receiver shutter - as before the weather on Mars. The frame cannot be jammed with snow or water from melted snow.
              1. rudolff
                rudolff 30 June 2015 18: 35
                +2
                RiverVV, winter tactical only for shooting, and crawl, run, etc. in normal warm. Who would argue.
                With water and snow, the bolt frame may not jam, and switching the fuse with ice can be a problem. Yes, even with frozen hands (I'm talking about the photo). All these are trifles, but I couldn’t distort the PM shutter in the cold. Fingers froze, did not obey, and the spring is tight.
  14. Gromm
    Gromm 30 June 2015 11: 43
    +2
    Hats off to the defenders of the homeland. This is the real elite of Russia!
  15. Wolka
    Wolka 30 June 2015 11: 51
    0
    I have a banal indiscreet question for peasants: it seems to be no problem, however, it gets out periodically, who decides how it is, it’s corny panties for the exit, who prefers what, the youngsters worn their groins in the blood, buttocks, especially after overcoming water barriers on the march in the heat, I invented it myself, I put on cropped women's tights, like nothing, but maybe someone will offer something better, on vacation in regular shorts ...
    1. Free wind
      Free wind 30 June 2015 14: 11
      +1
      First of all, move less in the heat. Send a wife for beer, so as not to lose shape every 2-3 days, quickly move your toes. laughing But seriously, Personal hygiene is first and foremost, if it is possible to wash with soap and water, wipe dry. Vata can help. Carry pieces of cotton wool in an airtight bag, after water procedures, after a kilometer two marches, be sure to stop and put a strip of cotton wool between the buttocks, dividing the rubbing areas of the skin. Drink less water, although doctors insist that you need to drink water as much as possible. But for some reason this only makes me worse. Even if streams and rivers are around you, crystal clear, water consumption should be limited, rinse your mouth as much as possible, and clean it of mucus. if you still can’t drink cold water, put cold water in your mouth and let it warm in your mouth, then swallow. Not because of a sore throat, but because the body will begin to spend additional energy on warming up, and there is so little energy. The best remedy is green tea, cook it in advance, a thermos is optional.
      1. RiverVV
        RiverVV 30 June 2015 15: 57
        0
        Never faced such a problem and no one from the platoon complained either. Most likely, cotton type "family members" and their frequent washing will solve the problem.
      2. zubkoff46
        zubkoff46 30 June 2015 21: 15
        +1
        With regard to current recommendations, drink at least two liters of water per day. Such advice is given only by the "doctors" from the TV, lured by the manufacturers of bottled water. It is absolutely impossible to do this.
    2. Bort radist
      Bort radist 30 June 2015 16: 50
      +1
      Quote: Volka
      I have a banal indiscreet question for peasants: it seems to be no problem, however, it gets out periodically, who decides how it is, it’s corny panties for the exit, who prefers what, the youngsters worn their groins in the blood, buttocks, especially after overcoming water barriers on the march in the heat, I invented it myself, I put on cropped women's tights, like nothing, but maybe someone will offer something better, on vacation in regular shorts ...

      This skin is like that. He walked through the taiga with a man, he bought two adhesive plasters of roll and glued the inner surface of his hips in advance. Otherwise into the blood. They say little, but the problem is long hair in the perineum, etc. Cut short and wash if possible.
      1. Wolka
        Wolka 1 July 2015 05: 41
        +1
        suffered, but still be sure to shave my armpits and my laundry soap necessarily, then lubricate with baby cream, no smell and no scuffs either ...
  16. qarzu
    qarzu 30 June 2015 11: 54
    +2
    cool to author 5 ++
  17. Alex Danilov
    Alex Danilov 30 June 2015 13: 07
    +1
    Great article. The author is a big plus.
    There are two questions.
    1) Where you can buy good shoes, berets, as it was written in an article that uses modern technology and materials. Waterproof, breathable and warm for the entire period of the release of shoes. So that you can not take off your shoes, sleep in it. Where you can buy a civilian in Belarus, who will tell you the addresses ??? Are there any stores with whom to consult. In general, where can I buy such shoes?
    And the question is the number 2. Which knife is better and also where it can be purchased in Belarus.
    1. prosto_rgb
      prosto_rgb 30 June 2015 18: 05
      0
      Quote: Alex Danilov
      2. Which knife is better and also where it can be purchased in Belarus.

      Well, LDC-2 in the civilian market will definitely not be sold to you legally, for cold steel, and the term, only for its storage, starts somewhere from 10 years.
      Which is better?

      Depends on what purpose you are going to use it.
      I, personally, am going to buy myself a normal multitool. So far, for almost everything, the usual penknife from the times of the USSR is enough, so I'm not in a hurry.
      where it can be purchased in Belarus.

      Enter the following in the Yandex / Googl search box:
      - buy multitools in Minsk / Belarus
      - buy a hunting knife in Minsk / Belarus
      And choose what you need.
      The question of delivery is decided individually with each store.

      Separately, for hunting knives - they must have a certificate that they are tourist / chopping knives / etc ... and DO NOT BE knives. Some companies, but not all, sell these knives with such certificates. This question must be clarified separately.
      Or, you must have permission to acquire / store / use knives.
  18. padonok.71
    padonok.71 30 June 2015 13: 35
    +6
    The "motorized arrows" do not change anything - the eternal play-play.
    Where the group cuts tasks to its castle (both with VALs) - one of them famously put its weapon in its navel.
    About food - some kind of glutton. Sublimates to help them. They already went to PCHK like that - BPshek (noodles) purchased natolkesh and in a vacuum package in portions. Easy and does not rustle or sink). You can brew, you can "crunch" like that. They will help you with a vacuum at any repair shop. And here is stew and snickers, wow!
    With water, it’s also strange - don’t drink, you’ll be bad. Up to a coma, he saw himself.
    First aid kit - the horse was lying around, and this is with the group doctor ... Oh!
    A sniper in the snow with bare hands - also like that ... uh?
    Weapon - here everyone is a "king" to argue and discuss it makes no sense.
    But here the cover of the crossing with bare heels ... strange. Will he not change his position? if anything, is not going to "vomit"? ... strange. Or is it just "force on camera"?
    But all the same guys - "fire"!


    Quote: Volka
    I have a banal indiscreet question for peasants: it seems to be no problem, however, it gets out periodically, who decides how it is, it’s corny panties for the exit, who prefers what, the youngsters worn their groins in the blood, buttocks, especially after overcoming water barriers on the march in the heat, I invented it myself, I put on cropped women's tights, like nothing, but maybe someone will offer something better, on vacation in regular shorts ...
    Tights - tin! Hurry up! Here is my method. There are trussels such as "boxers" only with an elongated "trouser leg" and there is still a "household" such as a bag. It's good to take them one size smaller. They fit everything and everything that is needed breathes in them. Only dry for a long time - natural. Good "Incantos" - or something like that. Wash scrapes with laundry soap, as often as possible, wash and dry the pan. And everything will be whole and healthy. Good luck!
    1. Wolka
      Wolka 30 June 2015 13: 52
      +1
      thanks for the advice, but I will answer why I decided to skim the weekend of a trunks out of tights, because there is some experience from my youth when I was running, including for marathon distances, then the sports equipment were also collective farms themselves, everything was in short supply, now it was different, yes, it was damp , but there were never any scuffs, that's exactly the tights I made for boxers, only not lycra, but ordinary nylon with a tight-fitting waist to the middle of the thighs, so they don't twist into an accordion either in the groin or in the buttocks, and the household is also tidied up and does not dangle ... Why am I interested, because they talk a lot about new uniforms, including special ones, but for some reason they are silent about the intimate, or I have fallen behind even in ignorance, but it's bitter to watch when good guys stand up like bulls to the slaughter precisely because of this "little thing" ... and natural materials, cotton or linen, are suicidal, it really is tin, when they are wet they are even worse than sandpaper, it's not for nothing that modern sports equipment is 100% synthetic, it gets wet but dries quickly, shook it and that's it ...
      1. vasilyry
        vasilyry 30 June 2015 16: 46
        +2
        When I had such a problem, I decided to use a shaving gel with calendula (I accidentally took it out). Firstly, it cools the rubbing and anesthetizes, secondly, it lubricates and does not rub on dry for a long time. and then (3-4 months) the skin got used
        PS also rubbed the inside of the thighs
        1. Wolka
          Wolka 1 July 2015 05: 35
          0
          Thank you, but I always have with me medical alcohol that way 100-150 gr. (except in the medicine cabinet) I rub it with rubbing alcohol, it dries the skin, the swelling subsides, the pain dulls, then I smear it with baby cream, too, by the way with calendula or celandine ...
      2. Bort radist
        Bort radist 30 June 2015 18: 14
        0
        Quote: Volka
        some experience from youth when I was involved in running, including marathon, then sports

        Our athlete in the fleet has served. He was also dressed up, as he was not poisoned. 800 - 1500 ran.
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      4. Lex
        Lex 30 June 2015 23: 14
        0
        I always took with me an ordinary baby powder. You feel that you began to sweat where it is not necessary, powder, a matter of a few seconds. The main thing at the first opportunity is to thoroughly wash everything later, if there is no water - wet wipes.
    2. Brutal_truth
      Brutal_truth 30 June 2015 14: 12
      +3
      Quote: padonok.71
      About food - some gluttons. Sublimates help them. In PChK already went like this - BPshchek (noodles) purchased natolkesh and vacuum pack

      Do not mislead people, from a scourge package you can easily get regular dehydration, especially away from water sources, even ordinary tourists know this, the minimum energy value and great hygroscopicity. And 3 liters in the hydrator is not allowed to consume it is tiny.
      Quote: padonok.71
      And here is the stew and the Snickers, wow!

      Apparently, army field rations are not known to you. So how and how many parts of the tape RPD
      1. padonok.71
        padonok.71 30 June 2015 20: 53
        0
        O great connoisseur of "scourge packages". I will answer you, although not hunting. If you eat half of the so-called. "scourge-package" before going to bed, then nothing terrible will happen to you, but it seems like you ate. And yet - a person is able to hold out without food, even taking into account the loads, 3-5 days, boldly. Incl. keep your "secret" knowledge of "scourge packets" with you.
        Further. About the guru of "field rations" (so from the author, that is, from you), tell me the wretched, since when did "Snickers" begin to join them?
        Regarding the RPD. You saw the ribbons in the book, and I was in my hands. This is generally the trouble of all smart people. They themselves can not do anything, only teach others how to do it right. According to the book, it is so, only life is not a book. And those tapes, people for some reason shared. So they had their own reason. A dozen "cupcakes" and all 3x30. So they needed it that way.
        Adies!
        1. Major_Vortex
          Major_Vortex 30 June 2015 22: 52
          0
          Quote: padonok.71
          - a person is able to survive without food, even taking into account the loads, 3-5 days, boldly.


          If "stress" means a sound sleep, then really "no problem". More is possible. But without food and water, very unpleasant sensations begin for 3-4 days. Better to be undernourished than to gobble up everything and then go hungry.
          1. padonok.71
            padonok.71 1 July 2015 00: 12
            +1
            Without water, after a day, or even less, "sensations" begin. Without food, I continue to assert, 3-5 days, I will not die. The only thing to do is "not all of a sudden," here, too, training is needed. Try not to eat for a day - I guarantee it will be bad. After 1.5-2 weeks try again - it will work better. After six months or a year, a couple of days of hunger, even with a load, you will not feel at all. Man in general, by nature, is so arranged that he can withstand prolonged starvation. Look at the aborigines of Australia, South America, Africa, hunting, and it can last more than one or two days, they do not eat anything and do not die and do not experience any such sensations. And the load there is no less than at the exit, and there is no need to talk about the climate. Something like that.
            1. Major_Vortex
              Major_Vortex 1 July 2015 05: 56
              +1
              He wrote about water according to his own feelings. On 3-4 days, a shift in the psyche begins and the brain ceases to work adequately, a state close to fainting. But dehydration can be obtained much earlier. I have never claimed that problems will begin only on 3-4 days. Problems can begin on the second, especially somewhere in the desert, at 50 ° in the shade. Water is life.
              Without food, 2 days is not a problem for a prepared person. But you wrote 3-5 days with loads. So it became interesting to me, what kind of loads are these? On the 3-4th day, the body begins to lose strength: the head is spinning, a general breakdown.
              You can lie back and a couple of weeks without food, then get up and even run 1-2 km or swim. There were cases of people starving and surviving for 40-60 days.
              For clarity: take a backpack that you carry without problems in normal conditions, let it be 40 kilograms, and drag it at least half a day after 3 days of fasting, and even with jerks and dashes. Understand what I'm talking about. Or make it even easier: squat with this backpack before fasting and record the result, and then repeat this experiment for 3-4 days of fasting, and compare the results. The body can not be fooled. Aborigines do not starve, they look for roots and insects and eat, so as not to fall off their feet.
              1. Bort radist
                Bort radist 1 July 2015 06: 24
                +1
                Quote: Mayor_Vikhr
                Without food, 2 days is not a problem for a prepared person. But you wrote 3-5 days with loads. So it became interesting to me, what kind of loads are these? On the 3-4th day, the body begins to lose strength: the head is spinning, a general breakdown.

                There is such a problem. When you are on a hungry trip, you need to save energy. Smooth loads. Long power loads, accelerations are fraught. Once I drove myself, for 6 hours of continuous load. Midlands, draft uphill. Tried to catch up with friends who left two hours earlier wassat . Two moose, one then for the national team of the Union ran skiing, his second trainer. I decided to neglect food after 3 hours (I met a geologist at a halt, said that they had passed an hour ago. I drank a mug of tea and flew away.) In the evening, muscle tremors began, fingers trembled. All food immediately flew out - vomiting. Soup broth went little by little. Even a piece of potato and a stomach rebelled. In the morning I got up like a cucumber. Once the guy with us also drove. Conclusion: during a hunger strike not to be overloaded, on moral-willful ones one can drive an organism into a coma. (blood sugar = 0, I read that they recommend chewing flowers like at least a fructose into the blood). The way out is nutrient fluids and relaxation.
                1. Major_Vortex
                  Major_Vortex 1 July 2015 10: 41
                  +1
                  If you seriously prepare a fighter for starvation: select a healthy and sturdy one, fatten, drip under droppers, prepare psychologically correctly, give him the opportunity to accumulate strength and energy, then he will give odds to the less prepared. But this is sport for sport.

                  And let's take a less favorable situation. The fighter is worn out, lacks sleep, does not eat perfectly, there are no droppers and nurse at hand. Man is already at the limit of the body’s resources. And he finds himself in a situation where it is difficult to find drinking water for several days and even drinking water. Here the skills of prey edible from what is under your feet will be more important. What kind of grass can be chewed, and which one is not worth it, in which bug or larva how many calories ... How to get drinking water in the field. Otherwise, 3-5 days can not be extended. A person, when in motion and consumes energy, must replenish it in a timely manner. We add here adverse environmental conditions, injury or injury to a fighter and starvation in ideal conditions will seem like a paradise.
                  1. padonok.71
                    padonok.71 1 July 2015 11: 37
                    +1
                    Quote: Mayor_Vikhr
                    I have never claimed that problems will begin only on 3-4 days.
                    And I never stated the opposite and I will not "catch on the word" either, I have no such habit, I consider it beneath my dignity. But in fact, if, all this is very individual and depends on many factors, temperature, humidity, altitude .. Problems can be found in half an hour (lack of preparation, for example, the tropics).
                    Quote: Mayor_Vikhr
                    Water is life.
                    Yes. Choosing between "eat" and drink, it is preferable to drink, even (and sometimes even more so) in winter.
                    Quote: Mayor_Vikhr
                    But you wrote 3-5 days with loads. So it became interesting to me, what kind of loads are these?
                    Pancake! Well, you are an adult! Well, what a load! Approximately the following. Daily, one and a half day march, in the combined mode of movement. Breakdown-arrangement of NP, RFP, VNP, BL, ZBL, RT, etc. 2-3 days of observation with RO and DPM. Home. If during this time you consume half a PSI per day, well, what will you find there locally, will you die? I think no. At the base, "cough up", sleep and you will be like a cucumber, although you will throw off a little.
                    Quote: Mayor_Vikhr
                    The body can not be fooled.
                    But this is the whole "trick" - to deceive the body! Make him eat himself. But of course, in reasonable aisles, otherwise you can "do some experiments." And here BPshki (and anything, such a plan, well, at least crackers) help with this. You seem to have eaten, quenched your hunger, but the body is not enough - it will "pinch off" a little from itself. But I think so. you won't last long - 7 days, probably the maximum. This is if with a load (you hope you understand what plan and you won't cling to my words anymore). And if purely to survive, wait, then yes you are right - people and hungry for months.
                    I will not paint on loads with a backpack, uv. Onboard Radio operator everything is very true and intelligibly painted - fenkssss.
                    That something like this.
                    1. Major_Vortex
                      Major_Vortex 2 July 2015 10: 51
                      0
                      Quote: padonok.71
                      Problems can be overcome already in half an hour (lack of preparation and, for example, the tropics).


                      Another danger in the tropics to keep in mind is tropical fever. A person, maybe in life before this he was not sick with anything, but this muck can be picked up in the very first days. Well, if pumped out on time. But the sensations are unforgettable: the temperature is below 40 °, but it’s not the same 40 ° as with a cold or inflammation, it twists and breaks as if they were driving you with a skating rink, it seems that your heart and liver will fail, you can’t move your hand during attacks , barely the language tossing and turning, you lie and count the moments to death, naturally.
        2. Brutal_truth
          Brutal_truth 1 July 2015 14: 41
          +1
          Quote: padonok.71
          Further. About the guru of "field rations" (so from the author, that is, from you), tell me wretched, since when did Snickers start joining them?

          I will say that instead of the nut-chocolate paste, the usual chocolate bar like "Snickers" or a small bar of dark chocolate is put into the latest IRPs. So it is not necessary to breed for a useless flood, as well as about stew, which has always been in the ration.

          Quote: padonok.71
          Regarding the RPD. You saw the ribbons in the book, and I was in my hands. This is generally the trouble of all smart people. They themselves can not do anything, only teach others how to do it right. According to the book, it is so, only life is not a book. And those tapes, people for some reason shared. So they had their own reason. A dozen "cupcakes" and all 3x30. So they needed it that way.

          Well, yes, of course, for you a special three-link order for a special order, the fighters specially unscrewed the springs ... But byad, it’s very problematic to twist them back without damage so that later there are no delays, and why should there be thirty pieces? Noble inventor!
          And this is for you to increase knowledge! From the instruction:


        3. Brutal_truth
          Brutal_truth 1 July 2015 14: 41
          +1
          Quote: padonok.71
          Further. About the guru of "field rations" (so from the author, that is, from you), tell me wretched, since when did Snickers start joining them?

          I will say that instead of the nut-chocolate paste, the usual chocolate bar like "Snickers" or a small bar of dark chocolate is put into the latest IRPs. So it is not necessary to breed for a useless flood, as well as about stew, which has always been in the ration.
          1. padonok.71
            padonok.71 1 July 2015 16: 16
            0
            Yes, I agree, your flood is absolutely useless. Sit at home, read clever books, seizing this business with nut-chocolate paste from the IRP (or even "field rations" ?, read more). And be sure to calm down, do Chinese breathing exercises (smart books will help), otherwise I look in a fit of "evil scream", as many as two messages have been scribbled. Aha ha! I cry and laugh with you!
            Adies! Amigos!
            1. Brutal_truth
              Brutal_truth 1 July 2015 17: 28
              +1
              Quote: padonok.71
              Yes, I agree, your flood is absolutely useless. Sit at home, read clever books, seizing this business with nut-chocolate paste from the IRP (or even "field rations" ?, read more). And be sure to calm down, do Chinese breathing exercises (smart books will help), otherwise I look in a fit of "evil scream", as many as two messages have been scribbled. Aha ha! I cry and laugh with you!
              Adies! Amigos!

              As far as I understand, you are trying to impersonate a burnt professional. But judging by your phrases, you have nothing to do with tracks or banderlogs. So basically you are below absolute zero! And my personal experience allows me to distinguish lies from truth without any detectors. And you're lying corny! And I declare responsibly!
      2. asar
        asar 30 June 2015 21: 55
        +1
        Good all Denis Andreev!
        I agree! Beach packs and Snickers - and no group!
        We have something else, more high-calorie and drink much less!
        Yes, and you need to be able to drink the same water, not bursting, but in a different way! Otherwise, you just die, in the same Asia, very soon!
        And the article is only a Plus! (although some photos are "very public", but nothing, okay!)
        And in winter or in the mountains where - 1) "Terma", 2) "Polartek", then "Gortex".
        Shoes for mountains "go" depending on the relief, on the height "- whether it is an" approach ", whether it is rocks or a glacier! But in any case - the sole" Vibram "," gasket "" Gortex "(or another similar) ...
  19. lubesky
    lubesky 30 June 2015 13: 50
    +1
    From personal experience - drinking water as little as possible, during the transition - is generally not desirable. Wetting the mucosa only increases thirst. About a patch - it is preventive only on vulnerabilities, not to part. It helps with high humidity. Better and more practical than a roller coaster - I haven’t seen anything. when it’s cold, I agree - everyone is insulated as he wants, based on preferences. When choosing a load weight - everyone should remember that after 15 km a kilogram is not equal to a kilogram. I also remember that you unload the load several times, correctly fitted - it starts to rub and makes breathing difficult, too weakened tires and distracts.
    1. Wolka
      Wolka 1 July 2015 05: 44
      +2
      slightly salted water and squeezed lemon ...
  20. Stiletto
    Stiletto 30 June 2015 14: 01
    +1
    1) Where you can buy good shoes, berets, as it was written in an article that uses modern technology and materials. Waterproof, breathable and warm for the entire period of the release of shoes. So that you can not take off your shoes, sleep in it. Where you can buy a civilian in Belarus, who will tell you the addresses ??? Are there any stores with whom to consult. In general, where can I buy such shoes?

    - Now it is everywhere, in all fishing and hunting centers. I don’t know how in Belarus, in Moscow - the Extreme shopping center, an institution on Skolkovsky, and other places. Prices, however, are sometimes horse-drawn for such equipment, but it's worth it.

    And the question is the number 2. Which knife is better and also where it can be purchased in Belarus.

    - Better for what? If you cut someone, so "Antiterror", "Katran" and others from this series, in everyday life they are inconvenient. This is special. Utility knives are bad precisely because of their versatility. "All in one" is synonymous with "nothing". But in general, there are good forums on the internet, there specialists devote volumes to this topic. And you can order a knife on the Internet too. Personally, I use homemade products - there is an opportunity to make a "rezhik" for myself: both in terms of steel and operating requirements, and in terms of the handle. Although now only a lazy one does not make a handle from burl, birch bark and other convenient materials, at least for the right or for the left hand - nowadays this is never a problem at all.
    1. Wolka
      Wolka 1 July 2015 05: 49
      +1
      I remember that I had my grandfather's puma sneakers back from the 80s, strong ones with leather stitches on the toe and on the heel, so I still from the inside (from the inside) poked holes with an awl about the instep and arch of the foot, they served well, my legs were breathing, the only one lack of a sole in wet wet weather, none of it became blurred quickly, but in dry beauty it was ...
  21. Witamin72
    Witamin72 30 June 2015 15: 23
    +1
    great article
  22. gcn
    gcn 30 June 2015 16: 44
    0
    The guys combine work and service with the Motherland. This is probably the best thing in life. I still regret it.
  23. denis02135
    denis02135 30 June 2015 20: 47
    0
    Gentlemen, what repellents are used?
    1. zubkoff46
      zubkoff46 30 June 2015 23: 07
      0
      Own palm ...
  24. zubkoff46
    zubkoff46 30 June 2015 23: 36
    +6
    Can I tell you how it looked almost half a century ago? 1968-70, 76 Airborne Division (not Special Forces). Overalls of khaki color without shoulder straps, in summer on a naked body, in spring-autumn on a pea jacket. In winter - a jacket with a very high fur collar and high (up to the chest) pants, everything is covered with an ad, inside there is a black bike. At the warehouse I accidentally saw a huge stock of "civilian" quilted jackets and cotton trousers of different colors. This was kept for the reservists. At any time of the year with you a poncho. In winter, they covered the upper part of the body with it while lying down and buried themselves in the snow. Two sets of underwear from a bike, which was wiped in the groin over a huge area during the exit (7-10 days) (probably depends on the size of the genitals?). There was nothing to replace, except for footcloths. Shoes - only tarpaulin boots, but hefty felt boots with footcloths from old greatcoats are tied on the hump to the knapsack - this is only for rest, they were not worn, and ski bindings are only for boots. Boots on vacation were dried in frost, and in the summer - as God will send. After a hundred kilometers on skis on the first day, and then, all the clothes are constantly soaked with sweat. In it, more than 2-3 hours, even deadly tired in the snow, you can't sleep - it's terribly cold. People start yelling: "Commander, let's go along the route - we'll keep warm." It's impossible to get used to the cold - that's what Fridtjof Nansen said. The rations of that time are cumbersome, you can't take much in a backpack. Therefore, they confined themselves to stewed meat, breadcrumbs, sugar and bought lard in a club. On lard, you can go long and far. The pot was not taken - making fires is prohibited. They never got anything hot from the field kitchens, although they stood in the town. There was no bottled water at that time, they lapped what they had to. As a rule, disinfection tablets were not used because of the disgusting taste. In a very extreme case, moisture was filtered through a spare footcloth. In small groups, there were no medical instructors, as were the commanding officers. on personal initiative he took a "Small sanitary bag" (heavy, bastard - 5 kg). No repellents and other "cosmetics". The most difficult for the radio operators, starting with the jump with the container, they were helped. It sucks for everyone when, according to a task, you need to drag an SPG-9 with you on a wheeled or ski track. Didn't hurt. Before leaving, they cut themselves baldly. Tattoos were strictly forbidden, but some did secretly (I didn’t do it myself - I’m sorry). Upon returning from the exit, the people could not climb the stairs to the second floor, some muscles from a long walk atrophied for a while. They went up backwards. All, without exception, have frostbite of the cheekbones and upper arms ("bracelets"). Weapons under the bed and slept for a day. Then cleaning, bath, dining without soldering restrictions. Further - according to the schedule and eating the remains of dry rations, previously left in the barracks. Later I became an officer on the second call, but not the Airborne Forces. It happened so.
    1. padonok.71
      padonok.71 1 July 2015 00: 29
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      Omelet or Crutch? Divisional, in the sense.
      1. Brutal_truth
        Brutal_truth 1 July 2015 15: 04
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        Quote: padonok.71
        Omelet or Crutch? Divisional, in the sense.

        You shouldn't break the names of the division commanders by taking them from "pedivikia", they didn't have nicknames. This is not a company or platoon commander. And you simply could not know them!
        1. padonok.71
          padonok.71 1 July 2015 16: 20
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          I am crying and laughing! Have you already mastered Chinese gymnastics? My dad flew on that side, if in the know what it was about.
          Adies! Amigos!
          1. Brutal_truth
            Brutal_truth 1 July 2015 17: 31
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            Quote: padonok.71
            I am crying and laughing! Have you already mastered Chinese gymnastics? My dad flew on that side, if in the know what it was about.
            Adies! Amigos!

            Well, yes, also pushed you! Full kickstart! To all tricks, dastka!
            1. Brutal_truth
              Brutal_truth 1 July 2015 18: 50
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              Before you lie about something, the majority opinion about the monitor, and then get out with your tales. Since there are just readers, but there are just witnesses of the actions that you are trying to pass off as your
              1. You are not a career soldier.
              2. You have never been to them!
              3. Your inexperienced readers are multiplied by inexperienced readers of VO stereotypes that do not apply to both intelligence and army service in general!
              3. The false facts that you present, when examined in detail, show your complete profanity in military personnel, because many of the facts you have indicated speak for themselves.
              4. Ignorance of the usual abbreviations and acronyms adopted by the troops, also speak for themselves. All the abbreviations and abbreviations you invented simply do not exist. Especially this
              Breakdown-arrangement of NP, ZNP, GNP, BL, ZBL, RT, etc. 2-3 days of observation with RO and PDM
              ... This is despite the fact that the usual WG has 12 people on the staff. And from this there is one word "for based" And how to provide all the activities that you described with this number of people? Or do you have a whole company going on a raid? And as the camel said "Nu, nu!"

              With all the impartiality! Stock captain, full jacket of Russian State Medical University, dusty town, 1995-97 medical battalion!
            2. Brutal_truth
              Brutal_truth 1 July 2015 18: 50
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              Before you lie about something, the majority opinion about the monitor, and then get out with your tales. Since there are just readers, but there are just witnesses of the actions that you are trying to pass off as your
              1. You are not a career soldier.
              2. You have never been to them!
              3. Your inexperienced readers are multiplied by inexperienced readers of VO stereotypes that do not apply to both intelligence and army service in general!
              3. The false facts that you present, when examined in detail, show your complete profanity in military personnel, because many of the facts you have indicated speak for themselves.
              4. Ignorance of the usual abbreviations and acronyms adopted by the troops, also speak for themselves. All the abbreviations and abbreviations you invented simply do not exist. Especially this
              Breakdown-arrangement of NP, ZNP, GNP, BL, ZBL, RT, etc. 2-3 days of observation with RO and PDM
              ... This is despite the fact that the usual WG has 12 people on the staff. And from this there is one word "for based" And how to provide all the activities that you described with this number of people? Or do you have a whole company going on a raid? And as the camel said "Nu, nu!"

              With all the impartiality! Stock captain, full jacket of Russian State Medical University, dusty town, 1995-97 medical battalion!
  25. Raider
    Raider 30 June 2015 23: 50
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    Clear, simple, understandable. The same guys with human needs and problems. How simple and logical many decisions are. You look at the guys, sinewy, dry, hardy guys, remember the movie ... a lot of meat, hands not extending at the elbows, a fairy tale ... A couple of questions, which backpacks are preferred? One of the guys in the photo in sneakers, the rest in boots, such a big difference? And the article plus, special forces from the inside, is very interesting and instructive.
    1. Wolka
      Wolka 1 July 2015 05: 51
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      you don’t get taken into pictures (these are more staged), they won’t show everything anyway, it’s better to read, you can tell, you don’t always see ... but on even backpacks I carry the taxiway from the airborne forces a little
      1. Bort radist
        Bort radist 1 July 2015 06: 31
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        Quote: Volka
        and on even backpacks I’m dragging a taxiway from the Airborne Forces

        I loved the machine, with laying a minimum of problems, but not to bend))
  26. FRoman1984
    FRoman1984 6 July 2015 01: 09
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    Good article. Firsthand 45th regiment of Special Forces Airborne.