Mussolini's arrival in Ukrainian Uman

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Mussolini's arrival in Ukrainian Uman


The Central Archive of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation has a unique photo. It depicted Hitler and Mussolini, which in principle is not surprising. Unusual in it is a place where two fascist leaders were photographed. And they were shot in Uman 28 August 1941 of the year. What brought the Fuhrer and the Duce in August 1941 to the district center of Cherkasy region?

As early as July 1941, hostilities on the entire Soviet-German front did not develop at all as Hitler’s strategists had suggested. The offensive of the Nazi troops met with ever more fierce resistance. Our troops more and more often forced the enemy to go on the defensive.

The unforeseen course of the hostilities forced Hitler and the higher German leadership to make serious adjustments to the originally approved plans and calculations. After taking possession of Smolensk, during which the Red Army was able to inflict heavy damage on the enemy, the situation in the Moscow sector changed. The increased resistance of the Soviet troops put the Hitlerite command before a dilemma: to attack Moscow or deploy a significant part of the troops from Moscow to the south and achieve decisive success in the area of ​​Kiev.

It must be said that Hitler was increasingly attracted by the idea of ​​a quick seizure of the Donbass, the Caucasus, and the rich agricultural plots of Soviet Ukraine. On July 23, 1941, Keitel ordered Brauchitsch to direct the efforts of two tank groups to capture the industrial region of Kharkov, and then advance through the Don to the Caucasus. At the same time, it was proposed to send the main forces primarily to capture Ukraine, Crimea, as well as central regions to the Don. Hitler hoped that by the beginning of the autumn thaw, German mobile units would be able to reach the Volga and enter the Caucasus.

Thus, despite the fact that the fascist blitzkrieg failed in terms of tasks and objectives, Hitler still hoped to end the campaign “before the autumn leaf fall”. However, to solve this problem, replenishment was needed. Moloch war demanded all new victims. It was Italy’s turn to make a contribution to the Fuehrer’s adventurous “campaign to the East.”

Initially, Hitler did not plan to involve Italy in the war against the USSR, since he did not consider her a strong enough ally and did not intend to share the fruits of his victory, which he intended to win before winter. But the stubborn resistance exerted by the Wehrmacht by Soviet troops already in the first month of the war showed Hitler that it was unwise to refuse to use military aid from Italy. Moreover, Mussolini was eager to participate in the colonial robbery on the territory of Russia. “Will the Italian troops be late for Russia?” The duce asked the German military attache frankly in the summer of 1941.

Finally, the Duce received a long-awaited letter from Hitler. At the beginning of the message, the Führer shared his first impressions of the development of hostilities in the East. Hitler did not hide the fact that the resistance of the Soviet troops was stronger than he could have imagined. “Russian soldiers are fighting fanatically,” the Führer noted and complained that the presence of 54-ton tanks in the Red Army was a complete surprise to the German General Staff. “I truly accept your generous offer to send an expeditionary corps and fighter units to the eastern theater of operations,” further wrote Hitler Mussolini. At the end of his letter, the Führer made a duke an offer to meet on the Russian front, which very much flattered the latter's pride.



The Italian General Staff did everything possible to prepare the expeditionary corps well for dispatch to the Eastern Front. Mussolini himself kept a close eye on the preparations. In his head, plans were already ripe to increase Italy’s contribution to the struggle against the USSR and to bring the number of troops sent to the eastern front to one army. During the 5 performance on July 1941, before the Council of Ministers, the Italian dictator shared his thoughts that after the German victory over the Soviet Union, the disparity between the German and Italian contributions to the axis may be too great. This, he said, was guided by the sending of Italian forces to the Eastern Front.

However, Mussolini was cunning. He was simply afraid to be late to divide the skins of an unkilled bear and therefore sought to secure the promise of favorable economic compensation for participating in the campaign. Formally, this promise was received. In a letter from 20 in July, Hitler wrote that the vast Russian lands and resources "would ensure such economic conditions that, even if the war continues, will give the rest of Europe everything they need."

The Chief of the General Staff, U. Cavaliero, was also not against raising the level of the Italian military industry at the expense of future seizures; however, with experience in working with the German military and political leadership, he was quite skeptical. He believed that it was not worth to rely on Soviet resources, since the main part of the military production will go to the Germans.

However, 10 July 1941, the expeditionary corps consisting of two Italian mechanized divisions "Pasubio" and "Torino", as well as the infantry division "Celera", which was named after Prince Amedeo of the Duke of Aosta, moved to the east. 226 railway trains carried thousands of Italians across European territory. When they were sent, according to the usual rule of the Italians, many speeches were made. General Messe, who led the expeditionary corps, called on his soldiers to fight for Ukraine more boldly - the future winners' breadbasket. In Italy these days there was clear weather, and it seemed to everyone that the sun would accompany the Italian army throughout the campaign. Nobody doubted that everything would be over by the beginning of winter, and the gallant warriors would return home with military awards and rich trophies.

However, the troubles began immediately, even before the expeditionary force left the borders of Italy. The rolling stock, which was urgently assembled throughout the country, was not properly prepared for such a long journey. On the Brenner mountain pass, one of the echelons exploded in half, and 17 soldiers from the Pasubio division were out of action. So the case suffered the first losses in its homeland. In 27 days, the Italians arrived in Ukraine.

Hitler ordered under any circumstances not to allow the presence of Italians in the coastal areas of the Black Sea and categorically not to allow them to the Crimea, which according to the plans of the Fuhrer was to become the region of undivided domination of the German Reich. Therefore, the command of the 11 Army, whose composition was to include the Italian Expeditionary Force, was sent a secret order to use the Italian units exclusively on the left flank, the most distant from the Black Sea.



Meanwhile, the situation for the Soviet troops of the South-West direction at the beginning of August 1941 was extremely unfavorable. August 1 Day was a turning point for the 6 and 12 of the Soviet armies. By morning, these armies were completely surrounded in the Uman area. The ammunition ran out, the fuel was running out. Attempts to break through the ring were unsuccessful. 7 August resistance of the Soviet troops was broken. According to German data, the 103 of thousands of our soldiers and officers were captured near Uman. The troops of the Southern Front lost two armies. Hitler assessed the encirclement of the Soviet armies near Uman as the achievement of Army Group South by his first strategic goal.

During the visit of the Fuhrer 4 in August 1941 of the year to the Army Group Center (Borisov), the main issue was again discussed - the definition of strategic goals and the use of forces in the second stage of operations. 6 August Hitler arrived in Berdichev, where at that time the headquarters of Army Group South was located. The discussion of the plan of further actions was continued again. According to the recording made by Halder, the question was again raised about the importance of seizing Moscow. Hitler again explicitly rejected these proposals. He again insisted on his own words: “First you need to seize Leningrad ... Then you should occupy the eastern part of Ukraine ... And after that start the offensive in order to capture Moscow”.

Then Rundstedt reported on the success of the operations that were at that time carried out by Army Group South. The Fuhrer approved his report. He was especially pleased to hear about the rapid advance of the Kleist tank group against the city of Krivoy Rog, since, in Hitler's opinion, in this area there were extremely rich deposits of iron ore and a large metallurgical base. At the end of the meeting, an award was given to the knights' cross of Antonescu.

Fulfilling the order of Hitler, the German command launched an offensive in the directions of Starodub, Gomel, Konotop, Chernigov. Considering the created threat to the right wing and the backs of the Southwestern Front, the 19 August Headquarters ordered the armies of the Southwestern Front to withdraw beyond the Dnieper and organize defense on its eastern bank. On the west bank of the river, only Kiev was ordered to be held.

Somewhat earlier, the German command had included the Italian Expeditionary Corps in the Kleist tank group, which was advancing towards the Dnieper between Zaporizhia and Dnipropetrovsk. The main motive of this resubmission was that the 11-I army, which previously subordinated to the Italian corps, was to operate in the Crimea, where Hitler closed access to the Italians.

Italians on the road and sticky Ukrainian mud could not keep up with Kleist tanks and hopelessly lagged behind. Division "Pasubio" stuck in the mud. The columns of the expeditionary force, stretched for many kilometers and could not be properly controlled by the command. Then Kleist ordered the Italian Corps to arrive on August 29 in the Dnieper positions and replace the German units, freeing them from the garrison service to perform combat missions.

In the second decade of August, Hitler invited a duce to the Eastern Front. Mussolini did not delay and 25 August arrived at Hitler’s headquarters in Rustenburg, accompanied by Chief of the General Staff Cavallero, Chief of the Foreign Ministry Anfuzo and ambassador to Germany Alfieri. In the retinue of Hitler were Keitel, Ribbentrop, Bormann, as well as the highest ranks of the army. Anfuso left a detailed description of the visit, where he noted that the meetings at the headquarters were remembered primarily by Hitler's long monologues. The most interesting was the recognition by the Führer of the mistakes made in assessing the potential of the USSR “The Russians turned out to be completely different from those“ steppe semi-barbarians ”who had been influenced by the influence of Marxism, which Hitler had seen before the invasion,” Anfuzo writes, “they had, perhaps, a rough, but good weapon. In addition, the Russians fought fiercely. Although Hitler kept saying that he had already destroyed the Red Army, it was clear that the Germans had come across a tough nutlet. ”

From the headquarters of Hitler, Mussolini went to Brest, where Goering's headquarters was located. Field Marshal Kluge introduced Mussolini to history Brest Fortress, saying that in the First World War it was captured by the troops of the German army, and December 15 1917, it concluded a peace treaty with Russia. He also stopped at the details of the assault on the fortress in the 1941 year, noting that 210-mm and 600-mm guns were involved in the artillery preparation. Suddenly, Mussolini drew attention to some inscription scratched on the wall and asked to translate it from Russian: "I am dying, but do not give up! Goodbye, dear Motherland." This inscription strongly shook the duce, according to Cavallero's recollections, Mussolini became unusually silent for the rest of the day.

The next day, special trains took the dictators through Poland. The final destination was Uman, where the headquarters of Field Marshal Rundstedt, commander of Army Group South, had recently moved. Why did you choose the small regional center of Cherkasy region? As noted, the main efforts of the onslaught of Rundstedt shifted to the south, to the Donbas and the Caucasus. The geographical position of Uman corresponded to this direction. A rather developed road network, the presence of an airfield were also in favor of this city. In all likelihood, the presence of the former estate of Count Potocki, with a magnificent arboretum and two lakes, waterfalls, canals, numerous grottoes and labyrinths, sculptures in the style of classicism, played an important role in choosing the headquarters.

The plane with the Fuhrer and the 28 august of August 1941 of the year landed at Krosno airfield, near Uman. An entire division of German soldiers was built to meet such high-ranking persons. Much of the honors went to Hitler, while the duce looked at him sadly. Mussolini's hypertrophied vanity was painfully hurt.



Official photographers captured two dictators, bending over a previously prepared huge map of hostilities, after which Hitler and Mussolini went to the intersection of roads in 18 km from Uman. At this point, a review was assigned to the Italian units that were heading to the front. This was the Torino division, which in German documents was listed as mechanized. Mussolini expected to show her to Hitler in all splendor, full of the proud Roman spirit. However, the soldiers passed 1300 km on foot from the Romanian border and were extremely tired. Motorcycles of the Bersalier battalions because of the rasputitsy most of the way overcame in carts and trucks. And now the Bersaliers, planted on them, with cocktails on their steel helmets, with their legs spread wide apart, drove along the slender, slippery road. The Germans looked darkly at this comical picture. Illusions about the fighting qualities of their allies they have left.

After Rundstedt reported on the course of the fighting of Army Group South, a plane with two dictators on board soared into the Ukrainian sky. And then the unexpected happened. Unexpectedly for all Mussolini, who to all other titles had also the title of "first pilot of the Italian empire," said that he personally wanted to lead the aircraft. There was a deathly silence. The SS guards, for whom such a step was equivalent to an attempted assassination of the Fuhrer, fixed their eyes on Himmler. For a good half hour the tension reigned in the plane. As Anfuzo recalled, “everyone thought about the possible headlines of the newspapers if the leaders of the Axis powers collapsed to the ground.”



Already on the train, on the way to Italy, Mussolini reported that Ribbentrop intended to publish a communique on the visit, without agreeing with his Italian colleagues. Duce was furious. He demanded to tell the Germans that he would order the train to stop at the nearest stop and wait until he received the text of the communique. After the document was brought in, Mussolini highlighted the place where it was indicated that he personally piloted the aircraft with the Fuhrer on board.

Mussolini’s visit to Ukraine had no influence on the fate of the fighters of the expeditionary corps, who continued to knead the dirt on the sodden roads. In mid-September, the Italian units were concentrated at the Dnepropetrovsk bridgehead. At this point, the 7 forces of the German army encountered fierce resistance from our troops and were abandoned. Italian units participated in several local battles.

When they entered Dnepropetrovsk, the Italian soldiers were amazed that the population treated them even with more hostility than the Nazis. The reason for this was the insignia of the Italian army - white five-pointed stars, because of which they were mistaken for the White Guards. “Later, when the misunderstanding disappeared,” corps officer D. Fusco recalled, “the mysterious“ radio steppe ”carried information that these soldiers in green uniform were Italians. Unlike the Germans, people with a good-natured character, womanizer and, in general, little capable of cruelty. "

The war against the USSR was not needed by the Italian soldiers, and they did not want to shed their blood for the sake of implementing the plans of the fascist leadership that were far from them. Therefore, there could be no other outcome of the hostilities of the Italian corps on the Soviet-German front, except for a crushing defeat. But Mussolini’s attempt to bite off a piece of Ukraine for the Italians remained an unrealizable dream.

Sources:
Filatov G. Eastern campaign of Mussolini // Crusade to Russia. Collection. M .: Yauza, 2005. C. 8-26.
Safronov V. Italian troops on the Soviet-German front 1941-1943. M .: Science, 1990. C. 29.
Petrov B.N. Great Patriotic War // Military History Journal. 1993. # 8. C.10-14.
Runov V. 1941. Hitler's parade. The truth about the Uman slaughter. M .: Yauza, 2010. C. 144-145
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  1. +7
    2 July 2015 06: 31
    Let's be honest - in Soviet Uman.
    1. +5
      2 July 2015 15: 31
      Quote: Old_Kapitan
      Let's be honest

      This is the author of the article for all 100500 relate!
      Why did you need to do whitening pasta?
      the soldiers in green uniform are Italians. people with a good-natured character, womanizer and, in general, little capable of cruelty
      In total, the losses of the Expeditionary Italian Corps in Russia corps (killed, wounded, and missing) from July 1941 to July 1942 amounted to 15 people.
      On August 14, 1941, the corps was subordinated to the 1st Panzer Group of the German General Ewald von Kleist. October 25, 1941, the 1st Panzer Group was reorganized into the 1st Panzer Army. CSIR remained under the command of Kleist until June 3, 1942.
      Everyone who wants to get acquainted with the military path of the 1st Panzer Group (German Panzergruppe) was renamed the 6st Tank Army on October 1941, 1. From January to May 1942, it was referred to as the army group "Kleist" (German: Armeegruppe Kleist). May on the Internet, and especially the core of the army's strike forces. In the composition: 14th Army Corps (motorized): consisted of the 9th Panzer Division, as well as two elite motorized SS divisions "Viking" and "Leibstandarte Adolf Hitler", etc.
      The "cock divisions" as part of the Wehrmacht's second-most powerful fist were far from "fetch and go to hell, rest!
      Helpless Cock Divisions By November 1942, ARMIR numbered 235 men in twelve divisions and four brigades.
      After 17.12.42/1/298, the XNUMXst Guards Army attacked the center of the Italian sector, which was held by the divisions: XNUMXth German, Pasubio, Torino, Im. Prince Amedeo, Duke of Aosta ”and“ Sforzesca ”. After eleven days of fighting with superior Soviet troops divisions were surrounded and destroyed.
      The number and composition of weapons in the specified period in the superior forces of 1GVA can also be found on the Internet.
      Article minus!
      Pasta found what they came for 1000 km. from the "boot" (homeland) and by business.
      1. +2
        2 July 2015 17: 28
        And no one was going to bleach them. Here's how in the text: "When entering Dnepropetrovsk, Italian soldiers were amazed that the population treated them with even greater hostility than the Nazis. The reason for this was the insignia of the Italian army - white five-pointed stars, because of which they were mistaken for White Guards . "

        And here is a quote from the memories of the corps officer (not the opinion expressed or the author’s conclusion): “Later, when the misunderstanding disappeared,” corps officer D. Fusco recalled, “the mysterious radio steppe carried the information that these soldiers in green uniform were Italians. Unlike the Germans, people with a good-natured character, womanizer and, in general, little capable of cruelty. "
        Quotes, I usually quote without distorting their meaning, since these are not my words.
        Well, and about the fact that the Italians were less cruel than the Germans or even the Romanians, there is much about this in the memoirs and memoirs of eyewitnesses. hi So you misunderstand me. I do not intend to whitewash the invaders, and I agree that they got the job. Although equating Italians with the SS is not worth it.
        1. +1
          2 July 2015 19: 53
          Quote: Technical Engineer
          Although it is not worth equating the Italians with the SS men.

          Why is it all so suddenly in blue and rainbow color ?!
          SS can not be compared with punitive formations, but the rest of the enemy is the enemy, while against the bones.
          SS divisions were from almost every geyropesky state.
          The second after the German divisions of endurance were the Golondos, and finally there is silence. Golondosia is the land of tulips and marieIvanna yes !? wink
          A quarter of a million people who were not engaged in economic services were involved and they are just lovers of shaking the phalos and drinking and eating, ROMANCE is shorter ?!
          The creatures were still those.
          Who did not want to, he sat at home or at the factories, collective farms, farm laborers.
          The Vatican in Italian Rome and for 1000 years set all kinds of ghouls against Russia.
          Quote: Technical Engineer
          Well, and about the fact that the Italians were less cruel than the Germans or even the Romanians, there is much about this in the memoirs and memoirs of eyewitnesses.

          They write a lot of things on the fences, and the official propaganda is silent about the "cockerels".
          Especially probably YOU are not embarrassed by the craving of pasta to the female sex, or do you think that all women out of love copulated with "cockerels" ?!
          And all the other formations of the participants in the war on the part of the rainbow gay union Nazis were "dunikulachkovtsy" or glinomes?
          And grunted exclusively brought with them olives.
          Quote: Technical Engineer
          mysterious "radio steppe" spread the information

          Here it is, finally a complete fly away. wassat
  2. +2
    2 July 2015 06: 39
    In the wake of the purchase of the Fiat assembly line, Italians shot the film in Russia and it was necessary to focus on the actions of the Italian corps, by and large, Italy withdrew from the war with the USSR without suffering substantial compensation in favor of the USSR.
    1. +6
      2 July 2015 08: 02
      Quote: apro
      In the wake of the purchase of the Fiat assembly line, Italians shot the film in Russia, but it was necessary to focus on the actions of the Italian corps

      There was such a film, joint, with Prygunov, 64 years, or something. "They went to the East" is called.
      Look, if not seen, very interesting.
      1. Russian phoenix
        +6
        2 July 2015 09: 29

        The Central Archive of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation has a unique photograph. It captures Hitler and Mussolini, which in principle is not surprising. Unusual in it is the place where two fascist leaders took pictures. And they were shot in Uman on August 28, 1941. What brought the Fuhrer and the Duce in August 1941 to the district center of Cherkasy region?


        Even more "piquant", perhaps, this fact looks against the background of the fact that in Uman there is the greatest shrine of the Hasidic Jews, the grave of Rabbi Nachman from Bratslav (in everyday speech - Rebbe Nachman) (April 4, 1772, Medzhibuzh - October 16, 1810, Uman) - the founder of the Bratslav (Breslov) Hasidism ...

        But in spite of all the facts of the Holocaust, in relation to this burial, the Germans did not even show any "interest".
        Moreover, in frankly out of the ordinary Uman, there are two "pillars" of fascism ...

        It is doubtful that they "DID NOT KNOW" ...

        The blasphemous attitude of the Nazis towards the national shrines of the Russian people was most clearly manifested in the desecration of the grave of Pushkin. In an effort to preserve the Pushkin Reserve from destruction, parts of the Soviet Army left this area without fighting and moved to Novorzhev. Despite this, on July 2, 1941, the Nazis bombarded the Svyatogorsky Monastery, where Pushkin’s grave is located.
        In March 1943, the Nazis began the systematic destruction of the Svyatogorsky monastery. They twice undermined the main church of the monastery - the Assumption Cathedral, built in the XNUMXth century by order of Ivan the Terrible.
        Fascist barbarians prepared the explosion of the grave of Pushkin, the Svyatogorsky monastery and the hill itself, on which the poet’s grave is located. On the territory of the monastery and in the surrounding area, Soviet sappers discovered and extracted up to 3 thousand mines. Under the road running along the northern wall of the monastery, a land mine was laid, the explosion of which destroyed the monastery wall for 20 meters. The second high-explosive mine of great strength was under the road from the eastern side, at the foot of Pushkin's grave; the Nazis dug a special tunnel with a length of 20 meters, carefully disguised it and laid in it special mines and 10 bombs of 120 kilograms each. The Hitlerites were prevented from detonating a land mine by the swift offensive of parts of the Soviet Army that drove the Nazis out of these places.
        1. +2
          2 July 2015 10: 50
          this shrine was after 1917 and until the 90s in such an abandoned condition and in such a place that even the NKVD could not find it. The Jews who did not have time to evacuate, the Nazis (more precisely, ukro-punishers under the supervision of the Germans) immediately after occupation of the city, as they always did.
          By the way, the railroad workers kept the interior car of I.V. Stalin for almost 40 years.
          1. +1
            2 July 2015 14: 17
            Quote: RoTTor
            By the way, the railroad workers kept the interior car of I.V. Stalin for almost 40 years.

            IS IT NOT NOW?
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        3. +2
          2 July 2015 12: 59
          Quote: Russian phoenix
          Even more "piquant", perhaps, this fact looks against the background of the fact that in Uman there is the greatest shrine of the Hasidic Jews, the grave of Rabbi Nachman from Bratslav (in everyday speech - Rebbe Nachman) (April 4, 1772, Medzhibuzh - October 16, 1810, Uman) - the founder of the Bratslav (Breslov) Hasidism ...

          So maybe they came to this grave?
      2. +1
        2 July 2015 19: 00
        Also on this topic were the films "They followed the soldiers" and "Sunflowers".
  3. +4
    2 July 2015 07: 18
    Quote: apro
    withdrew from the war with the USSR without suffering substantial compensation in favor of the USSR

    But, not particularly distinguished in battles and punitive operations. They really did not want to fight. Often deserted and sat out in the cellars of the inhabitants of the occupied territories. At least V. Pikul wrote about this.

    Quote: Old_Kapitan
    Let's be honest - in the Soviet Uman.
    That's how it is. But in the Soviet years, for example, about the Belarusian forests and Belarusian partisans, although the forests and partisans were Soviet. Most likely, the author specified the territorial location of the place where Mussolini was.
    By the way, I didn’t know that he was in our territory and did not know that Hitler flew to the front in 1941. He thought only near Vinnitsa and was much later.
  4. +1
    2 July 2015 08: 08
    another result of the fighting of the Italian corps on the Soviet-German front, except for a crushing defeat... The result would be the same, even if the Italian soldiers wanted to fight for the interests of their fascist leadership ..
  5. +11
    2 July 2015 08: 15
    Soon in Uman, the current temporary workers of Ukraine will erect a monument about this historic visit of two "liberators" laughing
    1. +4
      2 July 2015 10: 47
      If Ukrainians read this site, they will cling to this idea in order to profit from fascist tourists. They have already learned how to work, like the Palestinians ...

      Uman now exists for a whole year due to the fact that Hasidic Jews come there for several days to the grave of their righteous Nakhman, who was buried of his will in Uman after a terrible pogrom perpetrated by the ancestors of modern pogromists.

      If Western owners give them money for this, they will be stolen. Most likely, they simply will not have time to build such a monument.
      1. +3
        2 July 2015 14: 21
        Ukrainians living at the expense of the Jews. What would Gogol say to this?laughing
  6. 2ez
    +2
    2 July 2015 10: 06
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eq5PnehN7CA Прекрасное стихотворение М.Светлова в отличном исполнении Кирилла Плетнёва
  7. 0
    2 July 2015 11: 59
    It was said that eggs with embryos were pulled out from under the quotes.
  8. wow
    +3
    2 July 2015 12: 12
    The unfortunate "pasta" everyone was left in the snow near Stalingrad. Because this is not it for you .... The film is a good late 60-ies "Sunflowers" called, joint production of the USSR and Italy. I recommend watching.
  9. ivan.ru
    +1
    2 July 2015 13: 48
    "Unhappy" pasta "everyone was left in the snow near Stalingrad"
    "Unhappy" pasta "" killed soldiers of the Red Army and civilians. do you feel sorry for them? they are the same enemies to us as the Germans, and quite by accident successfully slipped off their "Nuremberg"
  10. +3
    2 July 2015 14: 13
    I remembered that V. Pikul described a historical case, how the Duce was wounded by the military successes of the Wehrmacht in 1941 and the lack of such in the pasta. In Rome, with great fanfare, they decided to hold a military parade on the occasion of the capture of the godforsaken village of Khatsapetovka in the Donbass. On command, the press released material on the mountain about a strategically important stronghold in the Russian defense. And in the midst of Mussolini's parade a report was received: "Duce, Khatsapetovka could not be taken ..."
    1. Russian phoenix
      +2
      2 July 2015 14: 41
      Quote: komendant 64
      I remembered that V. Pikul described a historical case, how the Duce was wounded by the military successes of the Wehrmacht in 1941 and the lack of such in the pasta. In Rome, with great fanfare, they decided to hold a military parade on the occasion of the capture of the godforsaken village of Khatsapetovka in the Donbass. On command, the press released material on the mountain about a strategically important stronghold in the Russian defense. And in the midst of Mussolini's parade a report was received: "Duce, Khatsapetovka could not be taken ..."


      HATSAPETOVKA, now the city of Uglegorsk, recaptured by the militia at the junta in the winter of this year ...
      1. 0
        2 July 2015 14: 47
        So what? Nothing .. the phoenix is ​​such a beast, it rises from ashes ..

        They wanted to say something ... phoenix ..
        1. Russian phoenix
          +1
          3 July 2015 01: 37
          Quote: Cat Man Null
          They wanted to say something ... phoenix ..


          From the "scientist cat" (?), I expected a more thoughtful comment ...

          What did you want to say with a comment? Yes, actually NOTHING ... And just draw historical parallels between fascism during the Second World War and the current war in the Donbass.

          It's a pity, "tyama", you did not have enough to understand this ...
  11. +1
    2 July 2015 20: 09
    Well, the Italians are still warriors, just remember how the Greeks piled on them, if not the Wehrmacht ....
    And according to the stories of my grandfather, he fought against them, he said that the surprise of our battalion (his words) knew no bounds, when a whole regiment of Italians headed straight at our trenches with priests at the head, we looked and did not understand, they were in battle march or arrange a parade, and as a result, the entire regiment lay there.
    And now, like a joke: the indignation of the Italian general during the battle that these Russians are just animals, they shoot people!