Comments of the British military about their participation in operations in the sky over Libya

Comments of the British military about their participation in operations in the sky over Libya



In connection with the political events in Libya that happened so swiftly, the British Army played a vital role in supporting NATO in stepping up the rebel airborne operation in this troubled country. So say all, without exception, the British military personnel who attacked Libyan soil, reports the British portal army.mod.uk.

“The Royal Air Force with aircraft and helicopters seized airspace. Operation Cast Lead consisted in an effort to end the rule of Colonel Gaddafi and his outrage, which the United Nations considers a crime against humanity. But Gaddafi, who knows the army well and has a wealth of experience, understood how difficult it is to ensure the preservation of life, and turned his forces back, "one of the official representatives of the Ministry of Defense explains the purpose of British military intervention in the operation.

Captain Mick Valborn of the 9 Royal Ulan Regiment was a communications officer (GLO) in Anzola dell 'Emilia - an air base in southern Italy. His work has become a model of all ground tactical knowledge for flight crews working in the sky over Libya. It was he who led the British Air Force aircraft on their targets.

Acting as an air force back-up, the United Kingdom tended to send flights from 12 to 14 per day, according to Captain Welborn.

“I’m only a soldier attached to the Air Force for work, and I appreciate what I’m going to see, and I’ll give the crew everything that the ground forces need to do,” he said after the correspondents asked him about possible remorse about destruction of civilians.

The employee works with the British Air Force in the 2 Squadron (Tornado) and provides technical support to the 3 Squadron Military (Typhoon) to create the required combat potential.

Libyans borrowed Soviet ammunition and tactics, so that many British military could share information about what the Libyan military option would be, since they knew the Soviet tactics in air wars well.

“There were instances when I rushed to the runway,” says Velbourne, “to convey to the crews the most important information at the very last moment, since it was important for saving their lives.”

The participation of the air army, equipped with an Apache helicopter, determined the outcome of the Libyan war. Where the Hurricanes and Typhoons worked, who attacked, observed, discovered targets and carried out reconnaissance, Gadhafi’s army had to capitulate.

One of the recent attacks by a group of Apache helicopters caused destruction in government buildings.

Major General Nick Pope, a spokesman for the British forces in Libya, said: “It was a difficult and very effective attack by Apache crews deep into Libya, about 40 miles (64 km), to hit Gaddafi’s forces, including military vehicles and multiple Colonel’s communications equipment. ”
“Former regime forces continue to threaten Libyan citizens and make it appear as if it aviation NATO strikes peaceful targets. This is a gross provocation, ”says Gary Falls, spokesman for the British Air Force.

Drawing attention to the requirements for the Army and the British Air Force, the commander of the air operation Gary Falls added:
“We must neutralize the danger of the restoration of the Gaddafi regime, but use only air assets for this. Helicopters "Apache" are much closer to the scene of action, than jet aircraft. They have the ability to distinguish people on earth. This proves the need to have such machines for modern warfare. They perfectly complement the attacks of airplanes from the air and help those to define targets more accurately. Gaddafi has no chance! ”

Based on these comments, we can conclude that the UK military seriously believe that they fulfilled good goals in Libya. And, as you can see, they are little concerned that during the operation, thousands of civilians died from missiles fired from British aircraft and helicopters.
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  1. LESHA pancake
    LESHA pancake 1 October 2011 08: 05 New
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    The British have little interest in Aboriginal life. And a brave English pilot bombed almost in range conditions the enemy does not have air defense.
    1. Mesniy
      Mesniy 1 October 2011 13: 37 New
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      And who destroyed the Libyan air defense, aliens probably?
      1. Vadivak 1 October 2011 18: 57 New
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        I will try to object to you

        In December 1985, Washington planned a retaliation action. According to the Pentagon, it was supposed to consist of two consecutive operations in 1986: “Fire on the Prairie” (March 23-26) and “Eldorado Canyon” (April 15-17). In the course of the first operation, under the guise of exercises, a peculiar “reconnaissance by battle” of Libya's air defense system was carried out, and its strengths and weaknesses were revealed. In the second, air-bombing strikes were carried out in selected directions on specific Libyan targets.

        That is, the United States knew the possibilities and location of Libyan air defense since that war.
        from the story of Colonel Alexander Marchenko, a former adviser to the commander of the anti-aircraft missile brigade (S-200VE Vega air defense system).

        I have been in Libya since August 1984. He was an adviser to the brigade commander and at the same time the head of the garrison among Soviet military specialists in the city of Sirte, where we lived with our families. The provocative maneuvers of the US Navy off the Libyan coast prompted the country's leadership to quickly put into operation the new S-200VE Vega air defense system purchased in the USSR. For every division, the Bulgarians equipped their positions, but we helped put him on combat duty, and trained the Libyan troops so that they could carry out combat missions. In our opinion, our equipment was adapted to local climatic conditions. The calculations of the Libyans were fairly well prepared, most of the officers were trained in Odessa and in the training center near Krasnovodsk.

        The affected area of ​​the S-200 long-range anti-aircraft missile system was huge and covered a significant area in the middle of Sidra Bay, where oil pipelines exited for pumping oil to tankers. Thus, under control were not only the territorial waters of Libya, but also its coastal economic zone.

        Intensive operations by American carrier-based aircraft south of the 32nd parallel began around 7am on March 24th. The Americans, knowing the presence of "two hundred", sought to identify its working frequencies. We Soviet specialists were prohibited from participating in hostilities. The command to open fire on violators of Libyan calculations could only be given personally by the Supreme Commander M. Gaddafi. At about one o'clock in the afternoon, crossing the death line, a detachment of three ships entered the Sidra Bay: the cruiser URO Ticonderoga and two destroyers. In the air at various heights were up to 100 aircraft. At the highest point, the AWACS E-2C "Hokai" flew around, below the EA-6B "Proler" - jammers.

        As soon as two carrier-based attack aircraft, presumably the A-6E Intruder, appeared above the bay, at 13 hours 50 minutes at a range of 115 km, both Vega divisions launched one rocket at them. Intruders, moving away from Soviet missiles, tried to maneuver in height (from 4,5 to 2,5 km) and speed, perform anti-ballistic maneuvers, but everything turned out to be futile. On the indicator screens, there were signs of hitting targets - loss of altitude and speed. After 3 hours, the first duty division launching another rocket at a range of 100 to 75 km was shot down by another single American attack aircraft. We trained the Libyans well.

        We all learned about this later, since we were not in positions at that time. We left for lunch, and the firing was carried out by the Libyans on their own. The next day, I reported the results of the battle by telephone to General V. Zhdanov. After some time, the country and the Libyan radio informed of the victories.

        From the story of Lieutenant General Vladimir Yaroshenko, the former chief of staff - first deputy commander of the air defense forces of the country's air defense forces.

        When M. Gaddafi announced this, R. Reagan denied his statement, although he admitted that the Libyans fired three times. But indeed, the targets were hit far above the sea, no one saw the wreckage of the aircraft. The then President of the USSR Mikhail Gorbachev, who received the wrong intelligence report from Tripoli, doubted the capabilities and effectiveness of Vega. Although this was and remains the first case of the combat use of the S-200 system against a real air enemy. He ordered the Minister of Defense S. Sokolov, the Chief of the General Staff S. Akhromeev and the Commander-in-Chief of the Air Defense Forces A. Koldunov to deal with this. The latter called me, ordered to lead a group of 2-3 officers and fly to Libya to assess the results of the shooting of the Libyan brigade.

        Two days later, documents were issued against me, Colonel G. Kochan, Lieutenant Colonels V. Poklad and
        V. Doroshenko has not yet been issued and the "good" to fly to us was not given. A "Fire on the Prairie", meanwhile, continued. On the evening of March 24, “Intruders” from “America” sank 2 Libyan patrol boats (3 more were damaged the next day). On the night of the 24th to the 25th, Kharm guided missiles were launched from an aircraft based on the Saratoga aircraft carrier at the positions of the Sirte missile base, resulting in damage to the Vega's transceiver cabin. March 26, there were no violations of Libyan airspace, and the next day the Americans announced the completion of the exercises, and the aircraft carriers retreated to Fr. Sicily. Moreover, “Saratoga” almost immediately after this was sent home. According to the Pentagon, American planes during the "exercises" made 1.546 sorties and 5 times used weapons on naval targets.

        These days, having received detailed data on the firing conditions of the S-200 air defense system from Tripoli, our three parent organizations — the Almaz Central Design Bureau, the testing ground and the research institute of the Ministry of Defense — have been independently ordered by Colonel General S. Romanov, chief of staff of the Air Defense Forces of the country. conducted a computer simulation of three firing and got almost the same expected probability of hitting each aircraft in the range from 0,96 to 0,99.

        The doubts of experts about the effectiveness of the S-200VE complexes have disappeared.

        But then Libya had someone to protect, there were experts. And then the colonel began to be friends with ruts Sarkozy and bungo-bungo berlusconi than this friendship ended it is clear to everyone
        1. Uncle Sam
          Uncle Sam 1 October 2011 19: 48 New
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          One thing is not clear, no one canceled combat training, where did the air defense go?
  2. Uhalus 1 October 2011 12: 50 New
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    Yes, yes ... as they were in the 19th century, those remained ...
    1. Mesniy
      Mesniy 1 October 2011 13: 38 New
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      And thank God, if the Russians remained as they were in the 19th century, the country would be a worthy country, and not a bunch of stinking crap like now.
  3. zombies
    zombies 1 October 2011 13: 32 New
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    plain british bravado
    1. Mesniy
      Mesniy 1 October 2011 13: 41 New
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      Thanks to "ordinary British bravado," the foundation of the present world civilization has been created, and you look at the computer and not at the balalaika, you stomp in bast shoes.
  4. Mesniy
    Mesniy 1 October 2011 13: 36 New
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    Well done guys! Our pilots in Chechnya would have such equipment and, most importantly, organizational capabilities, would have saved many lives.
    1. kagorta 1 October 2011 19: 26 New
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      Well done, of course, if they get their way. But with all this, the enemy and his technique must be treated with respect. And even the regiment they have is "Kremlin" as if we have the S-200 best complex. And so this is a chatter for earning medals. Like, please introduce me to the award, because I ran at a risk for my life on GDP, stopped our planes and warned them about the danger ... wink
      I would also use carrier pigeons.
      The real "heroes" that the goals from the earth highlighted, we will not recognize.
  5. kagorta 1 October 2011 19: 20 New
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    Why were so few helicopters shot down (it seems that there was only one with SAS fighters during the assault on Tripoli) when Gaddafi had 20000 arrows?
  6. Siberian
    Siberian 1 October 2011 21: 17 New
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    “It was a complex and very effective Apache crew raid deep into Libya, about 40 miles (64 km).”
    Interesting idea. What is the difficulty of a 64 km helicopter flight under conditions of complete inactivity of the enemy air defense? In such conditions, officials fly to nature reserves to hunt.
    1. Vadivak 1 October 2011 22: 39 New
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      Then they fly, but not always successfully, and without MANPADS fall

  7. svit55
    svit55 1 October 2011 23: 19 New
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    I looked around, and along the road dead stood with braids ... and silence. Nonsense!
    Gaddafi believed in friendship with the Euro-Sarkozy and other Jews. and kept the money from them. here is the answer. they are fighting with him for his own money! look, as soon as this "victorious war" ends, the West will bill Libyans. And 20 thousand "needles" and "arrows" Yscho yeknet, not only to the west, but around the world. Do you want an example? Well, for example, IRAQ, how do you like it?
    1. slan
      slan 1 October 2011 23: 23 New
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      Namely, he sponsored these Sarkozy. And who repays debts if there is an opportunity not to repay? There was nothing to provoke, Gaddafi is a provocateur like a girl in a short skirt in the park at 12 at night. How is it clever? .. Victim behavior))
  8. PSih2097 2 October 2011 22: 53 New
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    "Tunguska" and its extension "Shell" are very effective against Apaches ...