Iran demonstrates air power: Clones of the forgotten F-5

In the Islamic Republic of Iran, the second stage of the major air force exercises "Defenders of the Sky-3" began. According to the Iranian Ministry of Defense, “Sa'eqeh fighter-bombers designed and developed in Iran (Thunderbolt) are taking part in it. The Iranians have made every effort to surround this mystery cover. They claim that the capabilities of the Bomb” "similar to the technical characteristics of the American F-18 fighter." aviation experts, however, hold a slightly different opinion. They point to the amazing similarity of the Thunderbolt to the lightweight F-5 Northrop fighter, the first flight of which took place back in 1959. Shah Iran received 140 aircraft of this type, about 70 of which are still in service. Photos proudly published by Iranian news agencies show not only the blessing of the heroic Iranian ayatollah pilots, but also the amazing wretchedness of Iranian military aircraft equipment.

Comments

[Vadivak]

Not a fountain of course, but maybe this is just the beginning? They were armed with 20 original F-5s. First they’ll make it simpler, then they will go over as the Chinese to copy, the same MiG-29s there are officially 35 of them (excluding the flown Iraqi) WOULD BE DESIRE

[AlexTarov]

And who is the author of the article or where is its original? Where are the photos of those "poor" planes? Some dubious article ...

[Ivan Tarasov]

http://wp.scn.ru/ru/ww4/f/1866/33/0/1
http://wp.scn.ru/en/ww4/f/1866/33/0/3
http://www.izvestia.ru/news/409220

[Ivan Tarasov]

Here is a detailed description
http://ru-aviation.livejournal.com/1203726.html
Cars have higher rates in comparison with the American originals.
They do not reach the level of F-18 (in range), however, in terms of combat performance they are quite comparable.

[Marat]

Thanks to Ivan Tarasov for interesting links "Looked
In general, it turns out that there are supplies of new Russian radars, electronics and engines - and this is better than nothing.

But this is certainly not enough against the Pendos - all the same, I do not believe in Iranian technologies and their "specialists" - if Russia could bargain for its positions from the Pendos (at its borders, after all) and directly supply the latest Su and S 300 and other equipment. Send advisers and instructors to Iran. Drive several hundred Iranians to courses and practice in Russia. Actually, this is what the USSR would do in the event of a threat of aggression in a neighboring state.

[PSih2097]

Here is the original - http://mignews.com/news/photo/world/100911_184615_59842.html
Source: MIGnews Photo: MEHR - Mods add to the article
The fact is that obsolete equipment can demonstrate comparative effectiveness, the main thing is to be able to apply it.

[Vadivak]

Yeah, in skillful hands and horseradish balalaika

[jamert]

Here are just the hands of Iranians, as well as other residents of the Middle East, it is difficult to call skillful. And both in the technical and in the military sense.

[Ivan Tarasov]

Iran has reached a new, high-quality level of its Armed Forces, at the expense of its own R&D.
Persian skill can only be envied, and wish further success.

[datur]

at first, too, everyone made fun of the Chinese, but now?

[Insurgent]

the Chinese are not Muslims

[LESHA pancake]

UUUUUUUU AS STRASHNOOOOO.

[cVM]

they are probably against Afghanistan, Iraq, Turkmenistan, ready to fight otherwise, I heard that they have a pair of f-14s, but they have a lot of normal air defense, and our s-300 pmu.

[Ivan Tarasov]

Of course, the modernization of the F-5 is temporary and compelled.
Now, the attack aircraft of Mukhamedov, Vityaz -2000 (aka Shafag-2) is being finalized.
Most likely, in a couple of years, the car will be on the conveyor, and by 2020 will completely replace the obsolete Phantoms and Tigers.

[LESHA pancake]

THIS BATTLE WILL SHOW THAT THIS MACHINE IS ABLE.

[PSih2097]

In 1994-2000. Design Bureau "Mukhamedov" conducted its own research on the formation of the appearance of the fifth generation aircraft and the development of conceptual requirements for it.
As a result, the project of a multifunctional combat aircraft Vityaz-2000 appeared, capable of finding application both in the domestic armed forces and in the armed forces of potential partners and investors of the project in the countries of near and far abroad. In contrast to the American JSF program, Vityaz is designed for deliveries to the CIS countries, Central Asia, the Middle East and the Asia-Pacific region.

[Ivan Tarasov]

http://www.irandefence.net/showthread.php?s=0b5191cf7b51d25f37d7c244e10806a5&t=3
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[svvaulsh]

This car is more likely a clone of F-20. The F-5 has one engine. This device was built in the 60s of the last century, belongs to the second generation of jet fighters. Accordingly, it will be shot down in battle, not even suspecting the enemy. (If this is not a Korean MiG-15).

[Ivan Tarasov]

On the contrary, "Tigershark" is single-engine, and "Tiger-2" is two-engine.
On an Iranian car, are our RD-33 (2 pcs).
In terms of its performance (except for range), the Iranian vehicle is close to the Hornet.

[svvaulsh]

I immediately had a question, how did they put them there? The aircraft is the same size as the L-39, but longer. Further,. in terms of armament, that it can oppose the F-18, except for two "sparrows" and a suspended container with a cannon, or a NURS unit, which limits the already low flight characteristics, especially in terms of overloads and turning radii. I don't remember what the radar station is. But I don't think the detection range is more than 20-30 km. Rockets 7-12 km hit. So I deeply doubt that they will be on an equal footing.

[Ivan Tarasov]

You have an erroneous opinion.
Check it out please.
http://ru-aviation.livejournal.com/1203726.html

[svvaulsh]

Wan, this is not an opinion, this is a military aviation education, department of tactics of aviation. And do not believe everything that is written on the Internet. People make money this way.

[Ivan Tarasov]

I would like to hear the opinion of a specialist, here on this machine;
http://www.airwar.ru/enc/fighter/azarakhsh.html

[svvaulsh]

To the peak http://www.airwar.ru/enc/fighter/mig21-93.html. Also modernization. And where in LTH is rate of climb, thrust-weight ratio, overload, evolutionary speed, turning radii, stall angles? Even if you put an engine from a BMW on a Cossack, he will remain a Cossack.

[Insurgent]

he is up to f-18 oh how far apart from the engines it is also necessary to have a good glider for the Persians with this problem

[Ivan Tarasov]

The glider of both cars is about the same level.
What the Americans created in the early 80s, the Iranians embodied today, using new technologies (composite materials).
True, Hornet has more room for modernization (conformal tanks).