New alarming "bells" for Israel. Cold War with Turkey

New alarming "bells" for Israel. Cold War with Turkey The situation around Israel continues to glow. Although there is nothing surprising in this - the foundation of the Middle East has been undermined, everything that is happening there and will be happening is already an “avalanche” that can be stopped only with great blood.


For example, Egypt continues to be in a fever - mass demonstrations are taking place, clashes between protesters and law enforcement forces, between supporters and opponents of Hosni Mubarak. The end of the Egyptian revolution is not visible, it has clearly assumed a “continuous” character. To curb this element can only war, "thinning" of excess biomass. And against this continue newsvery disturbing for the future of Israel.

"Bells" for Israel

Egyptian authorities, to prevent possible actions against the Israeli embassy in Cairo, enclosed the building with an 2,5-meter concrete wallreports The Jerusalem Post. The wall was erected in a few days and immediately it was filled with anti-Israeli inscriptions. Many ordinary Egyptians consider Israel to be an “enemy state”. Considering such factors as the fall in the standard of living after the revolution, the radicalization of attitudes in society, the rising popularity of Islamists, the overpopulation of Egypt, and water and food problems, there is a high probability that the population’s energy can be channeled against Israel’s external enemy.

The wall was built because of the incessant protests that are held outside the embassy. Already there have been several attempts to storm the building. And during the construction of the wall, some Arabs tried to break it. Egyptian residents demand that the Jews not only end the occupation of Palestinian territories, but also bring official apologies for the killing of Egyptian soldiers. Jerusalem is not going to fulfill these requirements.

Israeli Ministry of Defense reported on the dispatch of 2 warships to the Red Sea zone - To the shores of neighboring Egypt, the Associated Press reported. In Jerusalem, it was reported that this measure is connected with the need to prevent possible new attacks on Israel from the territory of Egypt. 18 in August from the Egyptian territory penetrated a detachment of Islamist militants, who later killed 8 people. The Israeli army then responded with strikes against the Gaza Strip, although the ruling Hamas movement there reported no involvement in the gang.

This conflict has aggravated tensions in the region, since the Palestinians of the Gaza Strip in response to the attacks of the Israeli armed forces again began to fire at Jewish territory with unguided rockets. In addition, in the same period, relations between Cairo and Jerusalem deteriorated: in pursuit of bandits, Israeli units entered Egypt and killed several soldiers. Outraged Egyptians staged mass protests and attacked the Israeli embassy in the Egyptian capital.

The citizens of Israel began to prepare for the uprising of the Palestinians. The Israel Defense Forces (IDF) began a series of activities to allow settlers in the West Bank to be ready for possible actions by the Palestinians. Palestinian Arab riots are expected in connection with the upcoming voting in the UN General Assembly regarding the granting of independence to Palestine. According to the newspaper “Haaretz”, during the operation “Summer Seeds”, Jewish settlers will be given light-noise grenades and checkers with tear gas.

According to the Israeli newspaper, if the United Nations recognizes the independence of Palestine, among the Arab population of the territories occupied by Israel, there is a high probability that mass unrest and unrest will begin. Israeli armed forces do not exclude cases of aggression with the use of firearms weapons, for example: shooting at Jews from a crowd of demonstrators. Possible and terrorist attacks. The opinion and possibilities of the start of the third intifada, a popular uprising of Palestinian Arabs, were expressed.

It is believed that protests, unrest can affect areas where Jews live. In addition, there is the likelihood of an attack on Israeli government institutions, so they will be brought on high alert from September 19. The military conducts exercises with residents of a number of settlements: on August 29, they took place in the area of ​​the Shilo settlement in the West Bank, before such classes were organized with local residents in the area of ​​the city of Lachish.

The army also underwent work in case of unrest, the Israeli military received strict instructions on actions in the event of mass riots and riots. So, on the borders of every Jewish settlement in the West Bank. Jordan held a conditional "red line", in case of its crossing the military get the right to shoot at demonstrators to avoid casualties. Although everyone understands that in such a case the death of people is possible, the human factor cannot be excluded. Earlier, The Jerusalem Post reported that under the program, which provides for the reduction of mortality during the dispersal of protests, the IDF snipers must be provided with new equipment. It will improve the accuracy of shooting. The publication said that the Israeli military will receive a laser target designation system, and they allow you to operate in poor visibility conditions at a distance of 1 kilometers from the target.

The resolution on the independence of the Palestinian state is expected to be presented at the time of the opening of the UN General Assembly on September 9, this year. Jerusalem and Washington are against this step.

The heat of Arab hatred towards Jews and Jews towards Arabs is illustrated by another news: in the West Bank, Jewish settlers burned a mosque. As reported by the Ha'aretz edition, Israeli citizens set fire to a mosque in the Arab village of Kusra, which is located south of the city of Nablus. As witnesses told the event, a group of Jewish settlers arrived at the village mosque around 3 in the morning. Jews began to throw stones at the mosque’s building and burning tires. And the walls of the Muslim sanctuary were covered with anti-Arab and anti-Muslim slogans. In addition, Israeli settlers stoned Palestinian cars and damaged several of them.

Perhaps this attack was triggered by the destruction of three houses of Jewish settlers, who were erected in violation of the law and were demolished by the Israeli authorities. Jewish settlers ripped off their anger at an Arab mosque.

Similar incidents, various kinds of conflicts are taking place between the Jewish settlers living in the West Bank of the West Bank and the local Palestinian Arabs regularly. The local Arabs view Jewish settlers as real occupiers who illegally occupy their territory, while Jewish settlers see the Palestinian Arabs as an enemy who illegally lives on their “Holy Land”, which God himself promised the Jewish people.

Turkey vs Israel

Apparently, Ankara decided to use anti-Israeli sentiments to raise its prestige in the Islamic world. How far Turkey will lead the "anti-Israeli wave" is not clear, maybe everything will remain at the level of rhetoric. Although taking into account the general tendency to destabilize the situation in the region, other scenarios are possible. Turkey has already committed several actions against Israel.

So, on September 2, Turkish Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoglu announced the recall of the Turkish ambassador from Israel. In addition, Ankara has also suspended all Israeli-Turkish military agreements. The Turkish Foreign Minister announced a decrease in diplomatic relations between the two states. This decision is connected with the events of May 2010, when the Israeli military attacked the so-called. "flotilla freedom ”(9 Turkish citizens died during the incident). Jerusalem refused to plead guilty and apologize to Ankara.

Ahmet Davutoglu also said that the next measure of Turkey, which will be taken in relation to Israel, could be the termination of trade relations between the countries. In addition, the Turkish minister announced Ankara’s desire to file lawsuits against Jerusalem in international courts. Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said he did not intend to apologize to the Turkish state.

On the same day - September 2, a special UN commission completed the investigation of this event. It was concluded that the Israeli security services and the organizers of the Gaza blockade’s maritime offense were to blame for the conflict. The UN Commission recommended Jerusalem to express regrets about what happened and pay compensation to the families of the dead Turkish citizens.

The representatives of Palestine welcomed the decision of Ankara to expel the Israeli ambassador and freeze treaties in the military sphere with Israel. Many Palestinian Arabs also expressed the hope that Egypt and Jordan, these are Arab countries that have signed a peace treaty with Israel, will follow the example of the Turkish state and break off all their relations "with the Zionist enemy." Also, Arabs, both in the Palestinian Authority and in the Gaza Strip, expressed their disappointment at the position of the Special Commission of Palmer in the UN, which recognized the legitimacy of the Israeli blockade of the Gaza Strip. One of the leaders of the Hamas movement, Mahmoud Zahar, said that this report was "the result of American and Israeli pressure on the UN."

Ankara did not stop there and on September 3 there was news that the Turkish authorities promised to strengthen naval patrols in the eastern Mediterranean and to move to a more aggressive behavior strategy in this area. Now the ships of the Turkish Navy of Turkey will escort civilian ships, which go in the direction of the Gaza Strip with humanitarian supplies for the population of Palestine. Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan ordered that a trip to the Gaza Strip be arranged for him in the near future. According to representatives of the Turkish government, the purpose of this trip will be to draw the attention of the world community to the situation in Gaza and the “unfair”, according to R. Erdogan, embargo on the import of goods by sea.

The next “strike” of Turkey on Israel was the introduction of reinforced inspections of Israeli citizens at airports. Now the Israelis, who arrive on airplanes in Istanbul, have been subjected to lengthy personal screening and document verification procedures, the Haaretz newspaper reported. Israeli citizens are now separated from citizens of other states, after which they collect documents from them and find out the goals of their visit to Turkey for several hours. In addition, all Israelis, including women, are forced to strip down to their underwear for personal searches. This whole rather unpleasant procedure takes several hours.

Earlier, Israeli citizens had never encountered such harsh treatment at Turkish airports, so the Israeli Foreign Ministry asked the Turkish authorities to clarify the meaning of these actions. The Turkish Foreign Ministry reported that exactly the same inspection and inspection measures are being applied to Israeli citizens as to Turkish citizens who arrive in Tel Aviv. The Turkish authorities made it clear that the actions taken by them are retaliatory.

Israel is annoyed by this Turkish policy. Thus, the head of the Israeli Foreign Ministry Avigdor Lieberman reported that "Turkey is moving in the wrong direction." Israeli media noted that Israeli-Turkish relations had returned to the cold war regime, which they had been in before the 80s of the 20 century. The former MFA Director General Dr. Alon Liel, three decades ago, beginning his career as second secretary of the Israeli embassy in Istanbul, just at the time of the last bilateral crisis, predicted that the current break in relations between the two most stable countries in the Middle East, "and even then, when everything is blazing, it will enter history. In an interview with Ynet, Alon Liel reported that professional diplomats of the two countries would have easily resolved recent conflicts, but, alas, Jerusalem and Ankara brought their conflict "to a political and party level", inflated emotions and played a "national pride" card. The veteran of Israeli diplomacy sees the greatest danger of the current political crisis in that the example of Ankara can be “infectious” for Jordan and Egypt.
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  1. Professor 6 September 2011 09: 16 New
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    In addition, during the same period, relations between Cairo and Jerusalem deteriorated: in pursuit of the bandits, Israeli units entered Egypt and killed several soldiers. Outraged Egyptians staged mass protests and attacked the Israeli embassy in the capital of Egypt.

    Not certainly in that way. The IDF did not enter Egyptian territory (Egypt has no complaints about this), but fired back at Egyptian territory, from which several Egyptian soldiers died. The militants were dressed like Egyptian soldiers and fired in the vicinity of Egyptian army positions. Most Egyptians died the next day while trying to detain one of the militants, who blew himself up with a suicide belt along with them.

    Ankara has also suspended all Israeli-Turkish military agreements. The Turkish Foreign Minister announced a decrease in diplomatic relations between the two states.


    A bit of history. In the 1981 year, after Israel proclaimed east Jerusalem as part of its territory, Turkey practically broke off diplomatic relations for 10 years.


    The next “blow" of Turkey against Israel was the introduction of enhanced checks on Israeli citizens at airports. Now the Israelis, who arrive by plane to Istanbul, have undergone lengthy procedures for personal searches and document verification, the Haaretz newspaper reported.


    Bravo Turkey! Greece is rejoicing. On average, about 700'000 Israelis rested in Turkey per year. Now some of them will remain at home replenishing the local economy, while the rest will go to Greece and Bulgaria. By the way, in the first quarter of this year, about 16'000 vehicles of Turkish assembly were imported into Israel. Other countries will gladly take their place.
    http://www.newsru.co.il/auto/05sep2011/avto8008.html
    1. cVM
      cVM 6 September 2011 10: 36 New
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      Bravo Turkey! Greece is rejoicing. On average, about 700 Israelis rested in Turkey per year. Now some of them will remain at home replenishing the local economy, while the rest will go to Greece and Bulgaria. By the way, in the first quarter of this year, about 000'16 cars of Turkish assembly were imported to Israel. Other countries will gladly take their place.
      http://www.newsru.co.il/auto/05sep2011/avto8008.html


      Over 32 million tourists go to Turkey annually, and the Israelis themselves are tired of boycotting Turkish resorts
      they have already stated that they will go no matter what. The goods turnover between Turkey and Israel is about 3 billion and this is beneficial for Israel and not Turkey, Turkey is a big country for her 3 billion is not money, but for Israel it will be a real crisis if we take into account that the people are on this moment requires social justice.
      1. Professor 6 September 2011 16: 04 New
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        and the Israelis themselves tired of boycotting Turkish resorts
        they have already stated that they will go no matter what.

        And where does such information come from? I have completely different information. Especially after humiliation and undressing to cowards at the Istanbul airport, not many will want to relax there. This is evidenced by the number of canceled trips.
        As for trade between countries, you are very poorly informed. Israel buys 3 billion from Turkey, and sells orders of magnitude less. I have already cited cars as an example. Who will Turkey sell them to? (by the way, the Turkish assembly is rare bullshit, Mexican is better) Israel will buy it in exchange anywhere. The same situation is with Turkish building materials.

        Social justice has nothing to do with the economic situation. Unemployment in Israel is the lowest since the founding of the country, GDP growth is the highest among developed countries, inflation is at zero. There are no reasons for alarm. Turkey paid for military projects with 100%, therefore their statements are continuous rhetoric.
        What can Turkey lose from the conflict with Israel:
        Israel's recognition of the Armenian Genocide and claims for compensation
        Stop technological assistance to the Turkish military-industrial complex and high-tech
        Israel's support for Kurdish self-determination
        Use of the pro-Israeli lobby in Congress
        Military support for Cyprus and Greece
        1. Anton S 6 September 2011 16: 19 New
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          Israel's recognition of the Armenian Genocide and claims for compensation

          It is unlikely. For a lohokost is an exclusive chip for getting a gesheft, and no shokhostniks will not share exclusive with anyone under any circumstances. Already verified. Armenians filed a petition in the UWB parliament. Do you know who blocked it? :-) To say whose lobby it was?
        2. cVM
          cVM 6 September 2011 16: 26 New
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          The fact that Israel buys Turkish cars is the cars of foreign companies and not Turkish ones, and the Turks don’t give a damn about it, as if Israel wouldn’t care about the genocide, it supported cooperation with Azerbaijan, Israel supported the Kurds, and Turkey’s VPK is developing itself and not thanks to Israel, Israel losing Turkey will lose a lot, Turkey can also support Hezbollah, the Muslim Brotherhood, the Jerusalem Martyrs, etc. Israel has only enemies around, and Turkey has only a fight with terror. The Turkish army is powerful and Greece combined with Cyprus can do nothing, so the Turks say that they will not be allowed to start exploring the shelf in the month of October and they will not be allowed. Turkey has not yet been using pro-Jewish lobbyists for as long as 2-3 years. Mostly closer to the Irish.

          And what about tourists, see for yourself. Turkey in the world is one of the good countries where tourism costs cheaper for $ 400, you can relax in Turkey 7/8 days. After all, Russian tourists are not stupid to pay a lot.

          http://www.mignews.com/news/travel/world/240711_171544_31259.html
          1. Professor 7 September 2011 09: 38 New
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            Cars, although they are produced under foreign brands, are local rabsila. And if there is not enough sales, then extra people will be fired.
            Two large parties in the Knesset have long called for the recognition of the 1915 genocide of the year (I have no doubt that you consider it a fabrication of the Armenians, as well as the massacres in Sumgait, the business of the Armenians themselves). However, the coalition did not want to spoil relations precisely with Turkey and did not carry out this decision. The Holocaust has nothing to do with it, Turkey asked for assistance in the congress.
            I would like to see how Turkey supports Hezbollah, the Brothers of Muslims (they are correctly called the Muslim Brotherhood - learn the materiel), the Jerusalem Martyrs - organizations recognized in the USA and Europe as terrorist. So the sanctions are not far away.
            Turkish defense industry is developing itself - You either do not know, or pretend that you do not know.
            Turkish army is strong - evidence in the studio.
            Kurds Israel and so supported - Well, it's generally ignorance. In 1970, he supported to annoy Iraq. However, since the 1980s, Israel has supported Turkey. It was with the help of Israel that Turkey caught the leader of the Kurdish workers' party Ocalan Abdullah, to which the Kurds attacked the Israeli diplomatic mission in Germany. Do you not know?
            And tourism is fragile, a couple of incidents are bloated in the press and there are no tourists. Do you know how many billions of dollars Turkey lost after the release of the movie Midnight Express?
          2. Professor 7 September 2011 15: 04 New
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            That's the exact numbers laid out.
            Turkish-Israeli trade: who loses something when a relationship breaks. CSB data
            http://www.newsru.co.il/finance/07sep2011/tur_isr302.html
  2. Crazyzy
    Crazyzy 6 September 2011 09: 40 New
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    I wonder how the conflict will affect the region, which is already burning. And how will he affect Washington, especially the US Congress, where Israel is actively supported. But Turkey is a member of NATO and the US ally in the Middle East, and in connection with recent events "On the deployment of a missile defense radar in Turkey" and US attempts to drag Turkey into the war against Syria. Obviously, this is only the beginning of the story ...
    1. raf
      raf 7 September 2011 07: 52 New
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      Yes, the bundle is still! It will be difficult to untangle it!
  3. Patriot
    Patriot 6 September 2011 10: 15 New
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    By the way, People, how do you like the UN resolution?

    Which justifies the blockade of the gas sector, as well as the seizure of the ship "Flotation of Freedom" by cut-off paratroopers?

    It seems that they are sitting there about the United States - the Israeli puppets. And, in general, where is such a zealous defense of the state, which less than 60 years ago was allowed to organize. And, which over the same 60 years has been engaged in the occupation of another territory illegally connected to Judaism. Did the UN allow this process of illegal expansion of Israel at the expense of the Palestinian territories?
    And, in general, it is high time for the Arab world to unite and tear down from the face of Mother Earth these peoples, who so loves to pit peoples.
    1. cVM
      cVM 6 September 2011 10: 37 New
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      apparently everything and goes to him
    2. Mesniy
      Mesniy 6 September 2011 10: 48 New
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      Israel has been destroying various muslims for many years, may God grant him good health and good luck!
      And you stupid patriot, if you do not understand that the enemies of Israel are also * shit that in the mountains of the Caucasus is fighting with Russia
    3. LESHA pancake
      LESHA pancake 7 September 2011 05: 06 New
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      UN IT IS TOILET PAPER FOR WIPING THE BACK OF THE AMERICAN.
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        raf 7 September 2011 07: 56 New
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        UN resolutions are not only for the American ass, they can wipe even though Burkina Faso still will not be anything!
  4. Splin
    Splin 6 September 2011 10: 22 New
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    In addition ... If God forbid there will be military clashes, and Israel will attack (there is nowhere to defend), will NATO fulfill that article on collective defense?
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      cVM 6 September 2011 10: 38 New
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      NATO already stated in 2002 that it would not defend Turkey; NATO is a bloc that practically works for the US
  5. Banshee 6 September 2011 10: 28 New
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    Quote: Patriot
    By the way, People, how do you like the UN resolution?


    But okay. Nothing new, good, not the first time.

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    Israel will attack (nowhere to defend), NATO will fulfill that article on collective defense?


    Here it will really be very, very interesting. The United States will really have to get involved in this to the fullest and pull away "its", which will cling to each other.
  6. zczczc
    zczczc 6 September 2011 11: 33 New
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    This is Stalin’s plan in action - the permanent weakening of the east by sticking this splinter into it. They will pick it out there for a long time. And when they pick it out, it will be even worse for us.
  7. dimarm74
    dimarm74 6 September 2011 11: 38 New
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    Don’t break your spears .... there won’t be any bucks ..... the US will never allow Turkey, first, to twitch, and, second, Israel to answer. All actions of Ankara for domestic consumption. For the Islamic electorate in Turkey itself.
    As for the strengthened customs checks of Israeli citizens, so Israel "crack" at the airport so everyone, this is just a response, and nothing more.
    Wow ... Israel is annoyed by these checks ..... And they themselves what they allow themselves? An interesting logic in Jerusalem .... we can, but not others .....
    1. Professor 6 September 2011 16: 11 New
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      Have you seen many Jewish suicide bombers? What about Muslims?
      1. Beil88 8 September 2011 15: 13 New
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        Full! Most of the American leadership, for example. These are the main terrorists and killers on the planet.
    2. Marat
      Marat 7 September 2011 22: 25 New
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      Yes dimarm74 - you are absolutely right - this is both their and pendos's logic - we can, but not others - at first I was also surprised - then I was indignant - and then with age I realized that it was THEIR LOGIC
  8. Patriot
    Patriot 6 September 2011 16: 02 New
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    zczczc
    Mesniy

    According to many forecasts, this splinter should be obliterated in the face of increasing influence of Islamic countries. One of them, the Islamic countries is not enough, UNITY. And, perhaps, a strong personality. If such factors exist, I wouldn’t put a lot of circumcised ones. The same Vanga spoke about the strengthening of the Islamic world and possible conflicts with the West. And about "the same * bullshit that in the mountains of the Caucasus is fighting with Russia ..
    “So, everyone already knows that the“ friends of Russia ”have been trying to tear the Caucasus away from Russia more than once (over the centuries). And, in every way they can destabilize the situation there, with explosions, etc. But, most importantly, who the customer is “friends of Russia.” England, the United States, ... And in these countries the whole Jewish elite (Rockefellers, Rothschilds, etc.), whose sponsor assistance is also the Jewish Economy and the Army. Well, think about it yourself, you left to a foreign land, they would also certainly begin to support their family in their homeland in every possible way.
    Or, in your opinion, is the initially poor (without oil, gas, coal, metals, and land itself) state able to create and maintain the strongest army in the region? And all this is family sponsorship of the Jewish clans from Pindostana. And not so long ago there was some information that the pindostan gives them the latest types of weapons.
    And, now that (if you believe the news) in Israel, there are demonstrations of socially dissatisfied, it is clear why. Pindostan himself is currently in crisis. So the hand of the "proponent" has become impoverished.
    So, comrades, one must look at the root. And never, the United States will not give offense to their friend Israel. For, a relative of the United States-Israel is much closer to the first than the same Turkey, or anyone else.
    1. Professor 6 September 2011 16: 32 New
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      Learn materiel, patriot.
      I have already laid out links to the fact that American aid to Israel is only about one percent of Israel’s GDP.
      The Rothschilds and Rockefellers never went to a foreign land, they were born and raised there.
      Arabs already united against Israel in 1948, 1967 and in 1973. The result is known to all. Shiites and Sunnis hate each other more than Jews.
      Israel is not rich in natural resources, although gas has now been found there, but in the brain. And hi-tech makes money like others by selling hydrocarbons.
      Once again, learn materiel !!!
      1. kagorta 6 September 2011 22: 21 New
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        And if the budget of Israel per year is 54 billion dollars, and subsidies 30 billion over 10 years, then this is already about 5,5 percent of the country's budget per year and the figure is huge. It's just that the term GDP is not very correctly used in this scenario (IMHO). But with regard to the economy and its development and way of life, the Jews are great (4% growth per year on industry and services) (I completely agree with you). One but public debt is very large at almost 100% of GDP (in the Russian Federation, if not mistaken, only 3%).
        1. Professor 7 September 2011 10: 18 New
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          And if the budget of Israel per year is 54 billion dollars, and subsidies 30 billion for 10 years

          The importance of American aid to Israel is greatly exaggerated (Do not confuse economic aid with political aid). Here are the statistics from 1947 to 2008 year.

          http://wrmea.org/component/content/article/245-2008-november/3845-congress-watch

          -a-conservative-estimate-of-total-direct-us-aid-to-israel-almost-xnumx-billion.htm

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          For example, in 2008, it amounted to 2.4 billion dollars, of which 2.3 military assistance that can be spent exclusively in the United States. Reference: Israel's total gross product in 2010 was $ 219.4 billion
          https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/is.html
          And the budget is 69 billion dollars (if you multiply aid by 10 years, then multiply the budget too).
          Egypt receives from the United States about the same as Israel.
          1. cVM
            cVM 7 September 2011 13: 26 New
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            The United States will allocate 20 billion to Israel for defense in 5 years 2011-2015 The Pentagon has such a plan, the United States builds up Israel’s military power and at the same time imbalances the strength in the region, this is dangerous.
            1. Professor 7 September 2011 13: 47 New
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              Please provide a link.
              1. cVM
                cVM 7 September 2011 23: 37 New
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                The last time the agreement was updated in 2009. It provides for the payment of Israel $ 30 billion over 10 years. Israel must spend 75% of this amount in the United States, and only 25% can be converted into shekels to transfer orders to the Israeli defense industry.


                http://www.newsru.co.il/israel/08mar2011/usa301.html
      2. Beil88 8 September 2011 15: 18 New
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        Israel has not yet proved that it is a full-fledged state. Not a single serious war with the Arab world hostile to him was won on its own. This quasi-state holds only as long as there is powerful economic, political and military support for America.
      3. oper66
        oper66 8 September 2011 19: 55 New
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        maybe direct open help from the usa is not so great but world zionism contains jewish so with whose money the state of israel was organized or the zhidas just got there. as for brains, yes, it’s good to pour all that was in the USSR on profanation and protectionism, well, Jews couldn’t be really clever, that with 0.2% of the population of the USSR 54% of professors were Jewish, so those smart ones before the revolution were mostly tailors and braziers. the fact that Jews honestly know how even the Khacham here can’t keep up with you and your idol Einstein turned out to be just a swindler and a liar, and his theory is a dummy- LEARN THE MATCH PROFESSOR
        1. Professor 9 September 2011 20: 08 New
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          Well, those smart ones before the revolution were mostly tailors and brazhnostrigaly. the fact that Jews honestly know how to even khacham not keep up with you here, and your idol Einstein turned out to be just a swindler and a liar and his theory is a dummy- LEARN THE MATCH PROFESSOR

          Have you heard about the Pale of Settlement? Here is the answer for you, you won’t finish many universities in the towns. If you nevertheless raised this topic, then look at how many "Jews" are among the Nobel laureates.
          Probability theory has already been refuted? And the photo effect? If not, then “my” Einstein is still a genius !!!
          For those who repeat in the tank, I learn the materiel constantly and continuously, this habit was instilled in me in the SA. I also advise you to learn materiel - it will not hurt.
          1. oper66
            oper66 12 September 2011 11: 28 New
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            professor your genius Einstein all in Russian, sleep .... l and appropriated the discoveries of others, and the Zionists pulled him to the top and they only give prizes to the gossip or the goyim who they have in their service, here’s an example “WORLD BARAKU OBAMA PRIZE” and the prize him "deserved" the world is walking on the planet!
            1. Professor 15 September 2011 10: 47 New
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              Einstein's genius is not mine, but belongs to humanity. He bequeathed the trademark to Hebrew University in Jerusalem.
              Here are 3 minutes of searching the Internet and not a complete list of Nobel laureates of the Jews. They also stole all their discoveries?

              List of Jewish Nobel Prize Winners:

              NP in the literature:
              P. Heise (1910), A. Bergson (1927), B.L. Parsnip (1958), S.Y. Agnon (1966), N. Sachs (1965), S. Bellow (1976), I. Bashevis-Singer (1978), E. Canetti (1981), I.A. Brodsky (1987), N. Gordimer (1991).

              NP in PHYSICS:
              A.A. Michelson (1907), G.Y. Lipman (1908), A. Einstein (1921), N.Kh.D. Boron (1922), G.L. Hertz (1925), D. Frank (1925), E. Fermi (1938), O. Stern (1943), I.A. Rabi (1944), F. Bloch (1952), M. Bourne (1954), I.M. Frank (1958), E.D. Segre (1959), D. Glaser (1960), R. Hofstedter (1961), L.D. Landau (1962), E.P. Wigner (1963), D.S. Schwinger (1965), R.F. Feynman (1965), H.A. Bethe (1967), M. Gell-Mann (1969), D. Gabor (1971), L. Cooper (1972), B.D. Josephson (1973), B.R. Mottelson (1975), B. Richter (1976), A.A. Penzias (1978), S. Weinberg (1979), Sh. L. Glashow (1979), L.M. Lederman (1988), D. Steinberger (1988), M. Schwartz (1988), D.A. Friedman (1990), J. Sharpak (1992), M.L. Pearl (1995), F. Raines (1995).

              NP in PHYSIOLOGY AND MEDICINE:
              I.I. Mechnikov (1908), P. Erlich (1908), R. Barani (1914), O.F. Meyerhof (1922), K. Lanzshteiner (1930), O.G. Warburg (1931), O. Levy (1936), G.S. Gasser (1944), D. Erlanger (1944), E.B. Chain (1945), G.D. Meller (1946), T. Reichstein (1950), Z.A. Waxman (1952), H. Krebs (1953), F.A. Lipman (1953), D. Lederberg (1958), A. Kornberg (1959), K.E. Vloch (1964), F. Jacob (1965), A.M. Lviv (1965), D. Wald (1967), M.U. Nirenberg (1968), S.E. Luria (1969), D. Axelrod (1970), B. Katz (1970), D.M. Edelman (1972), D. Baltimore (1975), H.M. Temin (1975), B.S. Blumberg (91976), R.S. Yalou (1977), D. Natans (1978), B. Benaserraf (1980), O. Milstein (1984), D.L. Goldstein (1985), M.S. Brown (1985), S. Cohen (1986), R. Levy-Montalcini (1986), S.B. Prusiner (1997), R. Fürgott (1998).

              NP in CHEMISTRY:
              A. Bayer (1905), F.F.A. Moissan (1906), O. Wallach (1910), R.M. Willstatter (1915), F. Gaber (1918), G. Hevesy (1943), M. Calvin (1961), M.F. Perui (1962), G. Herzberg (1971), W.H. Stein (1972), I.R. Prigogine (1977), G. Brown (1979), P. Berg (1980), W. Gilbert (1980), R. Hoffman (1981), A. Klug (1982), D. Carle (1985), H.A. . Hauptmann (1985), D.R. Hershbach (1986), G.B. Elyon (1988), S. Altman (1989), R.A. Marcus (1992), W. Cohn (1998).

              NP ECONOMICS:
              CRAYFISH. Frisch (1969), P.E. Samuelson (1970), S. Kuznets (1971), K.D. Arrow (1972), V. Leontyev (1973), L.V. Kantorovich (1975), M. Fridman (1976), G.A. Simon (1978), L.R. Klein (1980), F. Modigliani (1985), R.M. Solow (1987), G.S. Becker (1992).
    2. LESHA pancake
      LESHA pancake 7 September 2011 05: 11 New
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      THE JEWISH MOSSAD PASSES THIS POWERFUL PERSONALITY IN ADVANCE SO THAT THE APPEARANCE OF THE FIGURE ABLE TO UNITE THE ARABS AGAINST ISRAEL IS VERY PROBLEMATIC.
  9. Patriot
    Patriot 6 September 2011 18: 34 New
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    Professor

    Thanks for the advice.
    1) And as for hi-tech, if you need to significantly reduce aggregate demand around the world (which has been observed since 2008), few people need your hi-tech. And, therefore, in a situation of declining resources, it is for them that a fierce war will go on around the world.
    2) about the "Rothschilds and Rockefellers" I said figuratively so that everyone understands. And, what are the guys Jews, you probably will not argue with this?
    3) about 1948, 1967 and 1973 ... I don’t know, I don’t know, but all the ARABS dream that Jerusalem, (captured insolently) will sooner or later have them. And, in our life, the main thing is to dream.
    4) about the help. She really was, at least they wrote about her in the press. I will not venture to say about the amount of assistance, since I am not aware.
    Вот например. http://www.palestine-info.ru/ru/default.aspx?xyz=U6Qq7k%2bcOd87MDI46m9rUxJEpMO%2
    bi1s73LybVPQ4RIRijg3TpybFXx2uP4tVhl27xW4MZct1PWMJI4XbMvIkNC%2fppvTgoEHaOz8BiVbI1
    pn0PmjIYrxEsCvZRGsgM9Ca%2fk5gHjrhvg0%3d

    But, the question is open how to create and maintain such an army, as well as accept, all circumcised, moving to the country for permanent residence.
    1. Insurgent
      Insurgent 6 September 2011 19: 38 New
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      In general, the Caucasus is destabilizing just the special services of Turkey and Pakistan, Turkey has long dreamed of taking over the Crimea and the Caucasus
      1. LESHA pancake
        LESHA pancake 7 September 2011 05: 15 New
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        THE METHODS SHOULD BE APPLIED AGAINST THEM. THE WEDGE IS EXTENDED BY A WEDGE.
    2. LESHA pancake
      LESHA pancake 7 September 2011 05: 14 New
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      IT IS INTERESTING TO WIN. IDEA OF ARABS OR PRAGMATISM OF JEWS?
      1. zczczc
        zczczc 12 September 2011 17: 59 New
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        LESHA pancake, true Russian will win. You'll see.
    3. Professor 7 September 2011 10: 41 New
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      1. You are absolutely wrong. Most of all during the 2008 crisis it was the countries relying on the sale of resources that suffered. Demand for hi-tech products fell only in one quarter of 2008 and not only recovered within 6 months, but also broke all records. Hi-tech is not only computers and mobile phones, but also medical equipment, agriculture, energy and water resources. I can give you a lot of examples on the listed industries if you wish.
      2. There is no doubt that the Rothschilds are Jewish, but Rockefeller was the second child of six children in the family of German Protestants William Aver Rockefeller (13.10.1810-11.05.1906) and Eliza Davison (12.09.1813-28.03.1889). So that here you are not accurate.
      3. And here you are not aware. In addition to the so-called Palestinians, no Arabs in particular, and Muslims in general, dream of Jerusalem “impudently captured” for one simple reason. This city is unremarkable for Muslims. He is not once mentioned in the Qur'an, Muslims pray to him backwards ...
      4. As for help, look at my post here above and do not link the resource you mentioned - it does not cause the slightest trust.

      To your question "how to create and maintain such an army, as well as accept, all circumcised, moving to the country for permanent residence" I can answer in detail if you want. But in general: the first chief of the general staff was a professor of archeology, they accept not only circumcised people - he personally saw a lot of blond-haired soldiers with crosses on their necks, in Israel there is a whole Ministry of Absorption to receive and arrange all those who come for permanent residence.
      1. kagorta 9 September 2011 19: 32 New
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        Al-Aks Mosque, when it is destroyed, the end of the world will begin. This concept is included in the beliefs of Muslims. This mosque is located in Jerusalem.
        1. Mesniy
          Mesniy 10 September 2011 10: 33 New
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          so you have to bring it down
      2. kagorta 9 September 2011 20: 25 New
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        Yes, I forgot to add a stone of creation to the Al-Ax mosques. And if you have been to Erusalim you should know this and say that for Muslims Jerusalem is nonsense, this is too Jewish.
  10. Cvetluy 6 September 2011 18: 57 New
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    Israel will have problems until they return the land to Palestine, and the Turkish marches are dust in the eyes of Muslims. no
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      raf 7 September 2011 08: 04 New
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      Israel will have problems even if it returns the Palestinian lands. For the Arabs, Israel is an eyesore, and the Arabs will not calm down while there is such a state!
      1. cVM
        cVM 7 September 2011 13: 28 New
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        so if Palestine is returned, then there should not be Israel; it was formed on Palestinian land with the help of the UN and the USSR in 1948
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          raf 7 September 2011 14: 52 New
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          According to UN resolution No. 181 of November 29.11.1947, 1, it was planned to divide Palestine into 1948 states, Jewish and Arab, by August 2, XNUMX.
  11. Patriot
    Patriot 7 September 2011 11: 08 New
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    Professor

    It seems you have no answers to my questions. And your clear support for our (Russia and its people) enemy is not entirely clear to me. Why is such an ardent defense of the country - the occupier?
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      1. I answered your questions (see posts above Today, 10: 41)
      2. I do not consider Israel an enemy of Russia and its people. Hundreds of thousands of Russians live in Israel.
      3. I do not like lies.
      4. I do not condone the occupation.
      1. Beil88 8 September 2011 15: 35 New
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        How can Israel not be considered an enemy of Russia if it was created by the Zionists, who hated not only Russia, but all other nations except the Jewish one? The Zionists have not disappeared since then and continue to lead the fate of the Jewish people. Israel is even more than an ally of the United States; it is the brain of the American leadership.
        Before the First World War in Germany, for example, many Russians also lived, a huge number came every year to rest. Take an interest in what happened to them in 1914 ... If an unknown people, called "Russians" live in Israel, this is their personal business. Russian and other indigenous nations of our country live in Russia and their interests should be much closer to the person who writes and speaks Russian than the interests of the Zionist quasi-state.
        1. oper66
          oper66 12 September 2011 11: 23 New
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          Beil88 the professor says everything is correct, Israel is not an enemy of RUSSIA, it refers to the Zhidomassonian oligarch government that turned the peoples of RUSSIA "RUSSIANS" and removed the 5th column from the passport (nationality), so that you could not recognize them by passport, but only by deeds. Israel and Jewry are the enemies of the Russian people and the peoples of Russia
  12. Denis 7 September 2011 16: 05 New
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    And what is Turkey for Israel? These guys are great, they have repeatedly shown how to spit on more serious powers, as well as on the UN with its resolutions. The authorities do not speak there, but really serve the people and do not bend to anyone. there is something
  13. Patriot
    Patriot 7 September 2011 17: 09 New
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    Hundreds of thousands of Russians live in Israel.

    EXACTLY. Namely, MANY of which started the events of 1991 with the subsequent privatization and destruction of the whole country. Having earned a lot in this field, they went on a well-deserved rest. You just get me right. I am not anti-Semite, Just look and think for yourself. To whom in our country all the catastrophic reforms that have taken place over the past 20 years have been beneficial? Already not those Jewish offspring who flooded the whole country and the lists of the richest people in the Russian Federation?
    1. Professor 7 September 2011 17: 32 New
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      I am in Israel very often, both at enterprises and at universities. I dare to assure you that the vast majority of Russians work hard there to earn their daily bread. Nevezlin and a couple of oligarchs live there, but most of the "former" are sick for Russia. A lot of mixed families arrived with relatives in Russia, Russian is heard everywhere, etc.
      I hope you understand that people like Abramovich care only about themselves and not about their homeland, actual or historical.
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        Soul for Russia, but shekels are more expensive?
  14. Patriot
    Patriot 7 September 2011 18: 31 New
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    Professor

    Such as Abramovich and many of the list of Russian oligarchs have brought OUR COUNTRY to a similar almost terrifying situation.
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      Insurgent 7 September 2011 20: 34 New
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      tired of you already with your Jews; maybe you are a Jew yourself?
      the country was destroyed by the Kamunyaki humpback Yeltsin Abramovich’s mother, the Russian mother of the Jews, everything by mother
    2. Professor 7 September 2011 20: 45 New
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      To this I can only say: "Thank God there is someone to blame."
      And what have you done to save a great country?

      off-topic. Look at the list of Fobs, not all Russian billionaires are Jews.
      I personally do not think that the Russians are a herd of sheep that cunning Jews led to the collapse of the Soviet empire. Everyone is to blame.
  15. SVD
    SVD 7 September 2011 22: 31 New
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    Quote:

    “the country was destroyed by the Kamunyaki humpback Yeltsin Abramovich’s mother, the Russian mother of the Jews is all maternal”


    I remember how, in '91, an intelligent man, a wonderful engineer, a clever person, a worker in a defense enterprise - excitedly told how all people will heal wonderfully after they drive out the “stone”. In 94, having seen the "advantages" of the "absence", the "stone" voluntarily passed away ... Reality turned out to be, as always, much more painful. I believe that in the late 80s, political technologists (I don’t know whose) carried out approximately what is now being conducted in Libya. Thank God that with us it was more bloodless ... Although, as you know, maybe it was worth it then to fight for our own future ...
  16. Denis 8 September 2011 15: 49 New
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    Guys, tie up Jews with Jews
    Einstein the Jew, Zinovy ​​Gerdt the Jew and the greatest Poet Mikhail Tanich too, did they do something bad? Only good
    and the Lenin-Trotsky-Sverdlovs and, as it were, the Russian Gobachevo-Yeltsin Nemtsov-Jews, there’s nothing to say about their filth
  17. Patriot
    Patriot 8 September 2011 16: 40 New
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    Sages Say So- Do not confuse the Jews and the Jews. I personally have several acquaintances of the Jews. They are ordinary people. Not the destroyers, but the YEARS!
  18. Patriot
    Patriot 9 September 2011 13: 39 New
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    Professor

    I am in Israel very often ...

    And what are you, my friend, so often doing circumcised invaders in the country? Probably go to your own?
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      Well, of course to his. You already determined me, the skull was measured, the color of the eyes was checked ... fellow
      I have several degrees, I did postdoc for example in Germany. In Israel, as in many other places, I advise companies in the field of electro-optics and nano materials, I try not to miss a single exhibition in my field. You have no idea how many Russian companies are doing joint projects with Israel.
      But personally, you can consider that I will go there for my 30 silver coins.
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        It’s good to minus the professor, this is not a discussion, but a crowd for one, somehow dishonorable.
        A man is trying to tell you something, but you are rude, go to the person.
        And blaming the Jews for everything is babble. If there is no water in the tap, it means the Jews drank, if there is water in the tap, then the Jew poured there. Nothing like? Enough for fairy tales about the evil Jews to buy!
        I am writing in response to the professor, it’s just that everyone writes for a long time.
        I have disagreements with the political vision professor of the Communists and the USSR. But now I will raise his rating for the fact that one waved away from everyone.
        Jews will not be envied now; through the efforts of the USA, they now have a hornet's nest on their side. It is time to pay for help. Most likely they will be divorced and no war will be foreseen.
        When you gloat, remember that there are many of ours.
        1. oper66
          oper66 12 September 2011 18: 14 New
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          Dear Solodova, I have nothing against the Professor, but sorry in this debate, everyone is free to express an assessment of the comments of the opponents. I don’t like his praise of the Jews and how frightened Israel is so dear and close to me so I reserve the right to evaluate and express positive or negative assessment written. Regarding "ours in Israel", who do you mean tourists or those who are there for permanent residence, I think they do not consider us as theirs.
          1. solodova 13 September 2011 11: 11 New
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            If the commentary does not carry an informational and emotional load, but is a simple answer to the question, what is the point of minus? For example, a comment under which I left my own. Just the answer to the question.
            There are ours in Israel and in America and in Germany, no matter how much we like or dislike the policies of these countries (and I don’t like our policies either), but I will not be happy about the shedding of someone’s blood, especially of our former compatriots.
            I consider America to be Israel a time bomb on the Eurasian continent, but any war, if you completely omit the issue of humanity, is ultimately the instability of the whole world.

            And the facts (if, of course, not linden) should not be overlooked, even if we do not like them. And this attack with the transition to the individual does no honor to anyone.
      2. zczczc
        zczczc 12 September 2011 18: 01 New
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        Professor, and what helps Russia advising Israeli companies in the field of electro-optics and nano-materials?

        As well as how do companies that do joint projects with Israel help Russia?
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          Professor, and how does Russia advise Israeli companies in the field of electro-optics and nano-materials?


          I hope your question without a catch and try to answer you.
          Firstly, with the fall of the Iron Curtain, Russia was given the opportunity to get acquainted with advanced technologies and even acquire them not through the means of the KGB. Yes, Congress has not canceled the famous amendment, but this is a matter of time.
          Secondly, consulting foreign companies provides access to information and knowledge that was practically not available to us.
          Thirdly, it raises the prestige of the country. Sometimes you have to explain to people that we didn’t get off the tree and launched Gagarin into space, and the bears do not walk on the streets in Russian cities.
          Fourth, money from taxes goes to the Russian budget.
          Fifthly, to work in the West it is not necessary to go there. So you can prevent brain drain.

          As well as how do companies that do joint projects with Israel help Russia?

          Joint projects bring a lot of profit, support domestic science and, most importantly, give a lot to learn. I have a bunch of examples on this subject who are interested.
  19. krymskij 9 September 2011 20: 35 New
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    I do not feel much sympathy for Israel, but now you will not envy them. While the so-called tyrants ruled in the Arab countries (in the Western classification), it was possible to agree with them at least on something. But with the coming to power it is not clear who, and even who do not control their own territory, all agreements have no power whatsoever.
  20. Mesniy
    Mesniy 10 September 2011 10: 38 New
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    Yes, Israel was buried in the Soviet of Deputies from the first days of its occurrence, as it became clear that the Jews were choking on Stalin and would not dance to his tune. And what? The Soviepie was dead and rotten, and Israel was more alive than all the living, as they said about the Lenin Jew in the Soviets ...
    And God give him health!
    Let the muslik be pressed further ...
  21. Denis 12 September 2011 11: 35 New
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    Is Israel itself as a state, its leadership and people at least somehow plaguing Russia? They already have problems above the roof. But the current "probable friends" always crap with joy. Although their homegrown Jews (not Jews, Jews!), Russia fed its own head in the Stavropol Territory, the Urals, etc., etc.
    1. oper66
      oper66 12 September 2011 17: 46 New
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      yes, I agree, they have not spoiled us a bit, they only advocated for our prosperity and well-being. And who then surrounded the Crimea with a double chain of drowned Cossacks — Bela Kun and Zemlyachka — were they led by Chuchkans, or did they discover the Kuban and Don — Mendel and Trotsky — the Buryat and the Uzbek?
      1. kagorta 12 September 2011 18: 27 New
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        The fact of the matter is that you are not talking about Jews. A Jewish believer, a patriot of the nation, is now a country (the country is our efforts, including). And you're talking about the Jews. A Trotsky and political prostitute wink in addition. The Jews in one thing only cheated on us, this is the training of the Georgian army (but this is only business and nothing more). And you need to be friends with them, learn and do gesheft.
        1. oper66
          oper66 12 September 2011 18: 42 New
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          no dear, well, I can’t do any hephaestus to them, not if their directed faith offers only deception and humiliation of my people, there isn’t Zionism yet, but he is a direct descendant of Judaism, there isn’t the Zionist elite rule the world, the Palestinian people also say the Arabs were destroyed in the early days of the creation of Israel, no and no again, Yes, even the Jews are not a nation do not praise them this is a way of life, however, just the people
      2. Denis 12 September 2011 21: 46 New
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        the countrywoman is uncracked and Bela Kun, by the way a man, subjects not of Israel, although not of Russia
        but their creatures have grown decently
        But why is Mendel bad, is he genetics, not a politician, if I’m not mistaken?
        1. oper66
          oper66 12 September 2011 23: 48 New
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          Mendel was the very first secretary of the Krasnodar Territory and pursued an active policy of distributing to the Kuban and he’s the grandfather of our president’s native, I don’t say that they are citizens of Israel, they are Jews and this is a fact
  22. Insurgent
    Insurgent 9 December 2011 13: 19 New
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    http://www.zman.com/news/2011/12/08/115726.html интересно чтото израильские сайты некак неоставят Россию в покое