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“For twenty years now they have been killing Russian aviation”

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“For twenty years now they have been killing Russian aviation”Hero of Russia Magomed Tolboev gave a frank interview with “MK” about the problems of the domestic aviation industry on the eve of the opening of the 10, the anniversary International Air Show in Zhukovsky (MAKS)


This year more than ever many claims are made to domestic aircraft. Meanwhile, not everything is as bad as it might seem at first glance. About the pain points of domestic aviation, as well as the fate of the legendary aerobatic teams “Russian Knights” and “Swifts” told “MK” Hero of Russia honored test pilot Magomed Tolboev.

- This year we will finally show for the first time the “T-50” - the 5 generation fighter. It could be shown only with the permission of the President of Russia. “T-50” will fly in a pair, - says Magomed Tolboev. - The general rehearsal with them has already been held.

- Why only easy? Are aerobatics weak?

- The super patterns will show “Su-30”, “Su-35”. “T-50” is still in the testing stage, you understand. He is just now learning to fly. And then we'll drop it, God forbid! And in two years, in 2013, we will show you that everyone will cry ...

- Explain to the amateur, what is the conceptual difference between fighters of, say, the fourth generation and the fifth?

- What do you mean! This is a fundamentally different car. “T-50” is the only one in the world that flies in a supersonic sound without a boost. This is a huge fuel economy. All fighters spend three times as much fuel to get to supersonic. Fuel ends - you have to sit down. And we have a range of hostilities due to this increased three times.

Another fundamental difference - a special coating and stealth. The configuration of the angles of the aircraft is designed so that the reflected rays that give the radar, do not go back, and scattered in the air.

- What about civilian new products?

- “A-380” will fly every day. The world's largest passenger airbus, which over 500 man carries simultaneously. With this passenger giant we could immediately close the topic of Sakhalin and Kamchatka. People spend two weeks sitting there at airports to get away on holiday to the mainland. But now use the “A-380” everywhere does not allow the poor condition of the airfield complexes.

- Why do not you just say this to the Prime Minister?

- And you think I'm not talking? You think he is not worried? Putin is very concerned about the state of the modern airfield network. But it is impossible to do everything at once. Sochi had to be urgently built a magnificent airport, gradually get to the others.

“But as long as the court is concerned, people are dying.” After the catastrophe in Petrozavodsk, as they jinxed, almost every week forced landings, accidents ...

- I don’t want to talk about this, again we will strike a blow in politics ... There is Rosaviatsia, Rostekhnadzor - they are obliged to watch that private airlines exploit aircraft. What can not be forbidden to fly worn machines? Autumn-winter - they will begin to fall again. I warn you that it will. Short-haul aircraft "Yak-40", "An-24" completely exhausted their time, their life. They must immediately cease to exist. “Tu-134”, “Tu-154” once transported the entire USSR. But it is impossible to load the old donkey endlessly as a young one! I feel sorry for the dead passengers, I feel sorry for the pilots, I only understand the attitude of the state to the problems of civil aviation.

- Magomed Omarovich, I see that in the corner of your office there is a mourning wreath for Igor Tkachenko, the commander of the “Russian Knights”, who died in a plane crash two years ago.

- It was an accident. The most magnificent guy was, my student, by the way, I led him for six years, presented him to everyone as a “Russian bear”. We had T-shirts - a huge red star, torn in the center, and a bear face protrudes from it. But ... In this situation, he could not do anything. The guys showed “tulip”, there was a dissolution, the planes became and fired rockets, then went down. Each slave was looking for his master. They had to do it clearly. But led by the next couple for Tkachenko missed and missed his own. I saw another and went to him and, as I was walking, covered Igor. Tkachenko did not see anything.

- But the official investigation came to a different conclusion.

- Igor was not to blame. I insist on it. It is insulting when blaming the deceased.

- I heard that this tragedy caused almost the dissolution of the “Russian Knights”. Do they really want to destroy them?

- So, so. “Russian Knights” and “Swifts” - a single group, two squadrons. And we will give Igor Tkachenko a mourning wreath from a helicopter.

But today I am alone fighting for the “Knights” to remain. I am alone against the Minister of Defense Serdyukov. The rest are silent. It’s not a matter of Vityazi at all, but at the Kubinka airfield, which the billionaire wants to sell. He wants to buy this entire territory for some of his base. “Kubinka”! The central base of the Moscow Air Force military district! Twenty years ago, when we were just starting, it was Kubinka that was our competitor as a venue for an air show. On access roads, on openness, it is even better than we are. This person will buy Kubinka, buy the rest. Who will defend Russia? Russia has a huge territory, and buys only six helicopters a year!

As I can, I create public opinion, but I cannot buy new planes and helicopters for the state. By the way, I have no car, I walk home from work. There are planes - no car. From my office to the apartment forty minutes straight. And I go to Moscow by train. Past Baba Dusi, she sells salted cucumbers at our station, and when the air show opens, she sits here nearby. This Russian woman, you can not catch it with anything. On such and still holds the whole country. For twenty years now she has come to us, sets a stool, spreads a blanket and lays out her cucumbers on it. She 82 of the year already - and it was 62, when we started. Today my old American friends arrived, B-52, a strategic bomber. Shandarakhnuli for the meeting fighting fifty grams of vodka and ate snacks cucumbers ... For aviation! .. I flew on this earth in everything that moves. Such a school, as was the Russian pilots, and never will be. But for twenty years now they have been killing Russian aviation. How can? I am an officer. I am sick and ashamed of what is happening. We squandered everything that was done with a stock for grandchildren. And nothing is created in return.

- But what about the new generation of fighters, the unprecedented, ultramodern ...

- Yes, what is the fifth generation of fighters - it's 80-s, we then flew them! They came up with thirty years ago, and show in 2011-m. What more to say? I have the honor!
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  1. PSih2097
    PSih2097 16 August 2011 10: 56 New
    +4
    - But what about the new generation of fighters, the unprecedented, ultramodern ...
    - Yes, what is the fifth generation of fighters - it's 80-s, we then flew them! They came up with thirty years ago, and show in 2011-m. What more to say? I have the honor!

    That says it all.
  2. Max79
    Max79 16 August 2011 12: 18 New
    +6
    Very sad. Probably soon orders and medals will be prepared for army breakers, as for Gorbachev. Ugh ... there are no more words, some bad emotions.
  3. Professor
    Professor 16 August 2011 13: 56 New
    -2
    “T-50” is the only one in the world that flies in a supersonic sound without a boost.
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    wink Yes of course...
    Putin is very concerned about the state of the modern airfield network.
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    I will rather believe in a fairy tale about "the only thing in the whole world that flies on a supersonic sound without a boost"
    1. viktor_ui
      viktor_ui 16 August 2011 17: 40 New
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      professor - about supersonic and without afterburner ... either the author of the article got it wrong, or Tolboev had something in mind that we don’t know ... he is a flyer with great experience and he could hardly go for it ... amers respect the strong and smart, and therefore came to him ... I respect him and believe him.
      1. Professor
        Professor 16 August 2011 18: 32 New
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        I hope that I messed up, otherwise it is not appropriate for a pilot of this class not to know such things.
  4. ZEBRASH
    ZEBRASH 16 August 2011 14: 29 New
    +8
    It is high time for Serdyuk to drive along with Fursenko - one of us will destroy the armed forces, the other is education. How is this "at the top" do not understand?
    1. zczczc
      zczczc 16 August 2011 15: 32 New
      +4
      At the very top they were set for this, open your eyes.
      Do you remember Zurabov (Minister of Health) why they took off? Not because he ruined the whole medicine, no - because he became a laughing stock everywhere and it was a shame to keep on. If a wave of dissatisfaction with the furniture maker and Fursenko surges into the right size, they will be removed. But not because they are ruining their respective areas of activity.
  5. zczczc
    zczczc 16 August 2011 14: 29 New
    +4
    Under socialism, they did what was necessary, even if it was unprofitable. Under capitalism, they do what is beneficial, even if it is harmful.

    Extremes alone.
    1. zczczc
      zczczc 16 August 2011 15: 26 New
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      Oh - here is the confirmation - on the word "profitable" in the post above, the advertisement stuck. Here it is capitalism: I wrote about one thing, and they hung another - how can one live like this? :)
    2. cVM
      cVM 16 August 2011 22: 52 New
      -4
      Do you want socialism, move to live in Cuba, capitalism is happiness
      1. zczczc
        zczczc 16 August 2011 23: 04 New
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        I remembered for some reason the famous poster:



        And you with accuracy, but vice versa. Here you have Obama in the avatar - go to him :)))
        1. cVM
          cVM 17 August 2011 00: 14 New
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          Obama is not a full profile picture, he’s sad there and the current inscription below is invisible to her, in the People’s Republic of Vietnam, Cuba, the People’s Republic of China people dream of capitalism and we sit and write socialism that is far from social
          1. zczczc
            zczczc 17 August 2011 00: 24 New
            +1
            Poor Obama, he is sad that he did not make the Vietnamese happy with democracy through the Vietnam War. And the Cubans with the help of the blockade of Cuba. And the DPRK, too, with the help of the blockade and support of South Korea.

            And he is sad that China will soon buy land from the United States for a public debt. By the way, the idea - Alaska would be back. Here.
            1. cVM
              cVM 17 August 2011 13: 22 New
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              Obama didn’t wage war with Vietnam or Cuba and the DPRK, but he is waging war in Libya (successful), Afghanistan, Iraq, and maybe in Syria and Iran, this is a superpower that can wage war with 5 countries at the same time, despite the fact that these 5 countries are not weak, it proves that the usa is a superpower
      2. figwam
        figwam 16 August 2011 23: 25 New
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        Looks like you decided to do ASTROTURFING, it won’t do it here.
        1. zczczc
          zczczc 17 August 2011 00: 20 New
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          Astroturfing - yes, that thought came to me too. Judge for yourself - there are only two like him, including him. And if they were not there would be no one to argue with.

          As for the administration of the site, there is no need to have any illusions that they are doing a "good deed" here. They make loot - we read the line "Article, forever. Like news on the site" in http://topwar.ru/reklama.html. Everything is for sale, alas.
  6. figwam
    figwam 16 August 2011 21: 00 New
    +2
    I agree with Talboev, a man with all his heart worries about aviation.
    F-22 flies in supersonic sound without afterburner, well, the US said so, although the plane is all classified and what it can and what is not known to few.
  7. Engineer
    Engineer 16 August 2011 21: 45 New
    +2
    Started for health: About Putin's care, the construction of airfields, new airplanes.
    He graduated from the repose: the dissolution of the Knights, flight school, Kubinka.

    What to believe ???
  8. Esso
    Esso 16 August 2011 22: 24 New
    +1
    I’m reading comments and I think everyone is so smart and reasonable! Everyone speaks badly in the country, badly. And no one does anything, we must go out onto the streets ourselves and demand that the authorities stop ceasing to destroy the Army. As long as we citizens don’t move, we’re so bad we’ll live. It is useless to write something, a crybaby, we must act. We must show the authorities and all kinds of stools what will happen if we do not stop the monstrous reforms of the destruction of the army. My teacher said that our people have the government that they deserve!
    1. zczczc
      zczczc 16 August 2011 22: 39 New
      +1
      To begin with, at least vote for the Communists, because that list is no longer for anyone ...
  9. 916-th
    916-th 17 August 2011 07: 14 New
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    ENGINEER: "Started for health: About Putin's care, the construction of airfields, new airplanes. Finished for the rest: dissolution of the Knights, flight school, Kubinka. What to believe ???"

    You come across this and stumble about it at every step. There is no unambiguous assessment of the actions of the highest echelon of power. I'm not talking about Medvedev or Serdyukov - they have shown themselves enough to give an unambiguous assessment.

    It's about Putin. I do not want to get hung up on the opinions of either the opposition or outright admirers. Their estimates are diametrically opposed by definition. I am interested in the positions of respected and credible experts. There are many of those. The same Tolboev. And here you come across a situation - on the one hand, on the other hand. Like the two-faced Janus with the Strugatsky.
  10. viktor_ui
    viktor_ui 17 August 2011 15: 36 New
    +1
    Tolboev, first of all a test pilot, he belongs to a special, higher caste of flyers - from here I trust his statements, forecasts, remarks. AND IN THE LAST QUALITY, HE MAY BE A Cunning and SALE POLICY. And for thinned aviation, for castrated NGOs and R&D, for a killed network of airfields throughout the country, you need to ask those freaks who destroyed and sold the magnificent aviation complex left from the USSR by these URGEN MANAGERS in the 90s and 2000s. Talboev is definitely not a manager. In my city, there is a murdered international class airport with a strip on which the Boeing 737 calmly boarded. AND THIS IN THE FOREST, IN THE TAIGA. There was a complete infrastructure with automatic landing at 0 visibility and if the plane crashed, then the recorders did not take the analysis to the country of Muscovy, and our guys processed it on a PC and looked at the monks, what and how sausage ... well, or just looked for fun as the crew lands. Now there they could - they stole, and what they could not - they cheated. From a satellite it’s painful and disgusting to look at it ... now there’s no reason to go and go there.
  11. 916-th
    916-th 17 August 2011 16: 07 New
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    Victor. I re-read my previous comment and realized that clarity was required. Speaking of a two-faced Janus, of course I did not mean Tolboev. At the Strugatskys, Janus Poluektovich presented himself to the officers of NIICHAVO in two different images, which led the people into confusion and confusion.