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Exam for the people

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Exam for the people



Ukrainian events are a test not only for the Russian elite. It is also an exam for our people.

What do you think? Thought that the elite should pass this exam, and you do not? We thought that the elite would sit and puff over the examination ticket, and you would sit and husk the seeds, and when the elite wrote their answer, they would give a mark, and that would be all? And if the score is bad? Send to retake? Just like that?

No, my dear. This is an exam for everyone.

To begin with, you also need to be able to take an exam. To take the exam, you need to know the correct answer. Do we know him?

What does our people think about Ukraine? Some people think that Ukrainians want gas for free. And gasoline is cheaper. And loans. Did you know that ordinary Ukrainians, far from power, pay for gas in the same way as all of us, sometimes even more? And if you count what part of the salary ordinary Ukrainians pay for gas, then it will be much more than we do. And ordinary Ukrainians for the most part pay for gas regularly. And debts to Russia did not arise at the level of rent, but at the level of Naftogaz and the government of Ukraine.

The Ukrainian elite, the Ukrainian oligarchs who own housing and utilities structures and industrial enterprises (the largest consumers of gas, by the way), created and saved debts, and Russians often blame the accusations on the Ukrainian people, as if they were the people who did not want to pay.

That's how interesting it happened. For many years, the Russian and Ukrainian elite tried to outwit each other with paying for gas and transporting it to Europe, each was inventing different interesting conditions, each was looking for their own benefit, as a result, the Ukrainian elite stopped paying the Russian, after which the Russian elite shook a few more billion cubic meters of debt ( it is asked who forced) and demanded to pay them. And the Ukrainian elite not only does not want, but cannot. And these floats between the elites of the two countries in the face of Prodan, Miller, ministers, prime ministers and presidents have been going on for many years. At the same time, the Russian people think that Ukrainians do not want to pay.

Moscow Jews with Kiev Jews drag the pipe, divide income, steal gas, and Russians accuse each other with Ukrainians. Verily: the lords are fighting, at the lackeys the forelocks crack.

How are you going to take the elite patriotism exam, if you still do not understand what exactly the elites of the two countries - Russia and Ukraine - arranged for all this Armageddon?

Maidan?

He was organized by one part of the Ukrainian elite, in order to ward off another from the state trough. And the crowds that went to the square are a technical matter. If in Russia to organize the same brainwashing, as in Ukraine, there will also be a few percent of idiots and half a percent of thugs who are ready to go to the square and burn tires. And if they also pay for it! ..

The population of Kiev is about 3 million. 1% - this is 30 thousands, here's the Maidan. 0,1% is thousands of 3, here you have a few hundred scumbags.

And if you consider that on the Maidan brought the unemployed from all over Ukraine and Bandera from the western regions - what can I say?

You make a conclusion about all Ukrainian people by several percent of those who were shown to you on TV, who write comments on popular sites, who post videos on “YouTube”, and are you sure that these percentages reflect all the people? Are you sure that it is not organized specifically to divide the peoples of Russia and Ukraine, to sow hostility and make war?

You want to say that in Russia there is no percentage of those who are ready to go to the square, eat and drink tea for free, listen to the gorlopanov from the stage, jump for the EU or for something else?

You want to say that in Russia there are no several thousand gangsters? Yes, in Dagestan alone, they can be found. And immediately with weapons. And in some areas of Moscow, not without it.

The Ukrainian elite skillfully organized the Maidan, threw the Russian elite with payment for gas, and, as always, the people otdivaetsya. Yes, the people are also to blame. Because the people and the elite are not isolated worlds, they are two communities penetrating each other.

But look at yourself: after all, we, too, in 1991, supported Yeltsin with his course to the West. Not all, but supported.

So the Ukrainians, too, are not all supported Maidan! And today only 20% of voters voted for Poroshenko’s party in the elections. And the Nazis from "Freedom" did not pass at all. Lyashko barely passed.

And half of Ukraine did not go to the polls at all, so as not to take part in this orgy. This means that half of Ukraine does not approve at all what is happening in their country. Just as half of Russia in 90 did not approve of the course of Yeltsin, Gaidar and Chubais.

And I’m ready to argue that a significant part of Russians also want to pay less for gas, wants cheap gasoline and a lot of interest-free loans. And even better - to win the lottery, so that everything at once was and nothing for it was.

Russians are also ready to give the last shirt in the hope of getting a freebie.

The Russians are also ready to bury their industry, science and education in the “field of miracles”, because someone from Ivory Basilio said that a money tree would soon grow and there would be no need to work, and there would be money to buy everything elementary.

Do not believe? I'll prove it to you.

The first proof is "MMM" and "Vlastilina". Remember how people carried the last money there? Why did none of the investors "MMM" and "Vlastiliny" thought about what can not be super-profits from scratch? And these people today are laughing at Ukrainians who want to get the same thing from the association with the EU.

The second proof is the slot machines. Remember why banned casinos and gambling? Because huge crowds of Russians all over the country were letting out last money in gaming halls. And then borrowed from friends and lowered again. And then they received a salary and instead of returning debts, they again went to play. Because I wanted to hit the jackpot and solve all my problems at once. And these people today laugh at Ukrainians who want the same, only under the name of the EU.

And the third proof is the last SAS scam: an online store selling iPhones below cost, and tens of thousands of Russians believed that it was some kind of "tricky plan" and sent their money there, made an order, but it turned out ... It turned out that this is the same "MMM", only in new packaging.

Millions of Russians argue in the same way as Ukrainians. They believe the government, they believe in advertising, they believe that you can hit the jackpot and solve all your problems at once. And they do not just believe, but are ready to give the last money, sell a car, hand over family values ​​to a pawnshop and ... lose everything, simply losing. Although it was not possible to win initially, because in all casinos and financial pyramids there is a formula based on which the issuance is less than the contribution. Winning is mathematically impossible. But many still hope and believe. And in Russia, and in Ukraine, and in many other countries. Such is the psychology of man.

So why do we think that Ukrainians are so different from us?

Zapadentsy, Bandera - yes, here I agree. They have their own история, its own culture, its own religion, if you want.

But the West and the so-called "Banderostan" are 10% of the whole of Ukraine. This is a minority.

You will say that half of Ukraine voted for Poroshenko ... First, not half, but a quarter. Half did not go to the polls. Secondly, a quarter of Russians voted for “United Russia” - that is, for the same corrupt officials as Poroshenko and partners. What is the difference?

Ukraine differs from Russia in the absence of large reserves of oil and gas and the presence of Bandera in the West. This is the reason for most disputes and problems. The national dispute is Bandera. Economic disputes are the absence of oil and gas revenues, without which the Ukrainian elite could not find any other way out than to plunder the country.

If Ukraine had its own rich reserves of oil and gas, the local elite would also have settled on the wells and ensured stability in the country - so that no one would interfere with trading in hydrocarbons. And everything would be about the same as in Azerbaijan. Because unrest always interferes with established business - and vice versa, it always occurs when there is no established business.

It is time to understand that Russians and Ukrainians are at least 3 / 4-like, because in the recent past it was one Soviet people, with one system of education and upbringing. 3 / 4 Ukrainians even speak Russian at home. Still.

In the same way, it is time to understand that the Russian and Ukrainian elite in the recent past are the Soviet party nomenclature, the Komsomol workers, the co-operators, as well as the underground business (tsehoviki).

Our peoples and our elites have come from the hearth alone. They have one nature. They can not differ more than a quarter, because a little more than 20 years have passed since the separation.

The Ukrainian exam for our people is a recognition test. The question is: do we know each other or not.

Notice that the people of Ukraine are different. Some were for Maidan, others were against, some understood, others were not, some took up arms to protect their homes, others went to fight with them.

But then the people of Russia are also different. Some supported the Donbass, others stood aside. And someone even in Russia supported the Maidan. Someone went to fight for Novorossia, and someone is sitting in a warm house and is in favor of isolating itself from Ukraine with a wall.

This is a recognition test.

Ukraine is the continuation of Russia.

The people of Ukraine are the continuation of the people of Russia. Ukrainian elite is a continuation of the Russian elite.

If we understand this, it means that we will again create a large country, in which Ukraine and Belarus were provinces, and not abroad. If we understand this, then the exam is passed.

If we do not understand, do not know each other, then tomorrow there will be neither Russia nor Ukraine. Because, having ceased to recognize relatives, we will start losing them one by one. The east of Ukraine will cease to recognize the West, and the Center of Russia will cease to recognize the South.

If we stop understanding Ukrainians, tomorrow we will stop understanding Chechens, Kalmyks, Ossetians. The smallest dispute between the regions, between the local and Moscow elite - and we already say "they want gas for free, let's separate the parasites." Is not it?

If we do not know each other - the exam will not be passed.

We need to pass the exam ourselves and take the exam with our elite.

The examiner cannot take exams with others if he does not know the answers himself. If we don’t know if we want to be together with Ukraine and Belarus in one big country or if we want to run completely and irrevocably away, shut ourselves up, barricade ourselves, sit in a house and repeat “don’t climb, don’t give up your taiga” - while we will take the exam our elite, if we do not know the correct answer? How do we understand which answer is correct?

If we ourselves do not know whether we want to trade with the West while it is sponsoring Bandera shooting at the Russians, or still want to drive them out of the Russian land - if we don’t know this, then how will we know if our elite is doing the right thing ?

If we don’t know whether Ukraine is to be considered a hostile state or a brotherly people who are under the influence of the United States and Kiev Jews - how do we know if our elite are acting in the interests of our people or against them?

The examiner is always more difficult. He must first pass the exam himself, and then take it from others. If someone thinks that taking the exam is easy, you sit for yourself and pound the seeds until the examiner, worrying and sweating brings the answer - this is not so.

And even this does not end the complexity.

What happens if our elite fails the exam?

How will we deduct her? Like in 1917? Or as in 1991? How?

Well, of course, if the elite pass the exam. It is good if the answers to the Ukrainian question, as well as to the question of relations with the West, to which our people and our elite come, coincide. It will be very good. And if not?

Or maybe ... Maybe not tempt fate? Maybe leave the exam?

What a good idea! Put our elite top five automatic and calmly go home. And to believe that the elite knows all the answers, that it will lead us out of all the dead ends and lead to a better life ...

How tempting to believe your elite is that it lead, lead, lead forward, and not think about anything yourself. Going like donkeys - see how easy it is, it's because we are going downhill, did you notice? After all, it became easier to walk! Easier than before! So everything is good, then we are going right!

And what about Ukraine?

Ukraine also believed its elite. And past elections have shown that about a quarter believes so far. They are ready to go further where they will show. We are ready to go blindly and set off our elite with a gun. Yes, and they have no other option, because the Ukrainian people can not take an exam from their elite. For the simple reason that he does not know the answers himself.

Do we know?

Will we be wiser and more capable than the Ukrainians? Can we take the exam ourselves and take it from those who govern our country?

We look like Ukrainians by three quarters - we left the same Soviet school, from the same Soviet reality, many of us in 1991 also wanted independence and also divided the country that was once the Russian empire, and also voted for the Democrats and also wanted to the West.

But a quarter of us, we are different. In addition, we are more. Will this difference be enough for us to act differently than the Ukrainians? To make us stronger and wiser? So that we decide on the correct answer ourselves and make them answer those who are at the helm of the country?

And it is necessary to be determined. First of all to us.

There is still some thing here - if we ourselves do not know what we want, then no elite will act in our interests. Only in their own.

If the client does not know what he wants, he is fed with what is at hand. That remains from a dinner at others.

If we leave the exam in the hope that the elite will pass it without us, for us and instead of us - the result will unpleasantly surprise us.

In fact, there is only one correct answer. In fact, everything is simple and lies on the surface. The main thing here is not to know, the main thing here is to find, dare to give the correct answer and ask him from the examinees. This is a test for recognition and courage. Exam on the ability to ask.

If we pass this exam, we will have a big Russia again, one for all, a big people and a great country. If we fail the exam - no elite will pass it in our place.

This is not a difficult, but very difficult test. Who is not ready - free up space, the rest I ask you to start. In all tickets - the same theme. It is called Russia. You have to answer how to be.
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  1. tilovaykrisa
    tilovaykrisa 31 October 2014 08: 40
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    The people choose the power that they deserve. They spit on Russia for 23 years, praised Bender, laughed at the kotsaps, and the elite came, so that they would not have to complain about everything and not cry out of old habit.
    We have gone through a similar period of the time of the humpback and bori, enough to have eaten as the swamp showed.
    1. andj61
      andj61 31 October 2014 08: 55
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      Quote: tilovaykrisa
      The people choose the power that they deserve

      You know, and ask yourself a question - did we really choose Gorbachev, Yeltsin, Putin?
      All of them were imposed on us through backstage games (in particular, Gorbachev), as well as perfectly functioning political technologies. In Ukraine, the same thing.
      But we were very lucky with Putin, but they didn’t.
      And so, basically I agree with the author - we are one people.
      It’s just not worth it to reduce everything exclusively to the games of Kiev and Moscow Jews!
      Will we be wiser and more capable than the Ukrainians?
      So far this has been the case. Russia started 23 years ago, obviously from a worse position than Ukraine, but was able to approach the intermediate finish with better results. I hope this will continue to be the same. Moreover, we, unlike Ukraine, have such a leader as Putin.
      1. domokl
        domokl 31 October 2014 09: 15
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        Quote: andj61
        ask yourself a question - did we really choose Gorbachev, Yeltsin, Putin?

        And what kind of a question is this? We really chose them ... Someone at the polling stations, someone who didn’t go to the polling station .. But they chose ... For example, I personally screamed at the square near the White House to replace Soviet flag on tricolor in August 91 ... I really then believed that the country would live better ...
        The difference between us and the Ukrainians is that we ourselves were struggling, we ourselves survived, we ourselves understood who is who ... And they waited 23 for manna from heaven and freebies .. either from Russia, then from the EU, or from the USA ...
        But most importantly, despite the percentages that the author writes about, people don’t jump and scream at every corner about knives and other gangster freaks. The people find the strength to turn the head against the Nazis and other evil spirits. And not in Moscow or St. Petersburg, but in the hinterland, Ethics, where it is much more difficult and poorer to live. We don’t sell our old people, we don’t sell our memory, we call Russia-Russia ... And not Europe or whatever ...
        1. SMV
          SMV 31 October 2014 11: 52
          +1
          Quote: domokl
          Quote: andj61
          ask yourself a question - did we really choose Gorbachev, Yeltsin, Putin?

          And what kind of a question is this? We really chose them ... Someone at the polling stations, someone who didn’t go to the polling station .. But they chose ... For example, I personally screamed at the square near the White House to replace Soviet flag on tricolor in August 91 ... I really then believed that the country would live better ...

          That's right !!! a lot ++++
          The difference between us and the Ukrainians is that we ourselves were struggling, we ourselves survived, we ourselves understood who is who ... And they waited 23 for manna from heaven and freebies .. either from Russia, then from the EU, or from the USA ...
          But most importantly, despite the percentages that the author writes about, people don’t jump and scream at every corner about knives and other gangster freaks. The people find the strength to turn the head against the Nazis and other evil spirits. And not in Moscow or St. Petersburg, but in the hinterland, Ethics, where it is much more difficult and poorer to live. We don’t sell our old people, we don’t sell our memory, we call Russia-Russia ... And not Europe or whatever ...
      2. sssla
        sssla 31 October 2014 09: 23
        +9
        Quote: andj61
        You know, but ask yourself a question - we really chose Gorbachev, Yeltsin,

        Golden words and not only about you but also about Ukraine
        Moscow Jews with Kiev Jews drag the pipe, divide income, steal gas, and Russians accuse each other with Ukrainians. Verily: the lords are fighting, at the lackeys the forelocks crack.
        And this is finally platinum words only in the proverb one change)
        Jews argue and the Slavs quarrel among themselves
        1. 23 region
          23 region 31 October 2014 11: 51
          +2
          Moscow Jews with Kiev Jews drag the pipe, divide income, steal gas, and Russians accuse each other with Ukrainians. Verily: the lords are fighting, at the lackeys the forelocks crack.

          And this is finally platinum words
        2. smile
          smile 31 October 2014 13: 00
          +3
          sssla
          Well, yes, yes ... the main culprits were found - the Jews, how could it be without them ... The evil of the world, Chinga their madre .... well, still? A brilliant move, yeah. platinum-iridium ... only a little worn, don't you find?
          Or, in your opinion, dad Hitler, whom we, the bad ones, prevented, was nevertheless right, in your opinion? You are not alarmed by such like-minded people .... by the way, it is precisely the ideas of his faithful slaves-independents - that are now quite popular in Ukraine and supported at the state level. And the attitude towards us is the same ... are you even trying to think about your ideas?
          The next stage is to equate the leadership of Russia and Ukraine - they say, they are all the same, they are all bad, they are turning us against each other ... Yeah, only you forget one detail, a small one ... Nobody here turns the people against the Ukrainians. Nobody and no way. We do not yell Ukrainians at knives, we do not blame Ukrainians for the bad life and their intrigues since the early Middle Ages. And most of all, their animal hatred for us, which they do not hide, sets us up against the self-styled. So, don't "la-la" ... it's demagoguery.

          By the way, do you really believe that we are such an unreasonable mass controlled by a miserable bunch of Jews? Do you really think that they are superhumans? Are you a Jewish patriot disguised? :)))
          1. sssla
            sssla 31 October 2014 13: 20
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            Quote: smile
            By the way, do you really believe that we are such an unreasonable mass controlled by a miserable bunch of Jews? Do you really think that they are superhumans? Are you a Jewish patriot disguised? :)))

            We are all smart people in our own way. Do you really think that YOU are the master of your destiny? Yeah, keep your pocket wider))) Is it at a small household level and a mustache! Everything else is grafted on you (well, maybe not only by "them", but their contribution is large) The media once again The media and unverified facts in the stories of a neighbor like at the entrance, at the workplace, fellow student and so on here on VO. And I judge by my experience
            1. smile
              smile 31 October 2014 14: 23
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              sssla
              Any person, a member of any society, from the flocks of a primitive society to the present time, is NOT an absolute "master of his own destiny", NOT free. We are social animals by nature, and not free from the rules of this society. But since the same primitive flocks, the methods of managing people have not fundamentally changed. Nothing.
              Can you tell me what the Jews have to do with it? :)))
          2. kompotnenado
            kompotnenado 31 October 2014 13: 35
            +4
            Eye swam
            Jacket in the dust.
            There are pants under the bed.
            What have we been brought to
            Zionists, with s uki. (s) almost.
            1. PSih2097
              PSih2097 31 October 2014 14: 34
              +1
              Quote: kompotnenado
              Eye swam
              Jacket in the dust.
              There are pants under the bed.
              What have we been brought to
              Zionists, with s uki. (s) almost.

              you still remember this ...
              if there is no water in the tap ...
              means - drank (who ???)
              if there is water in the tap
              means - (who did what ???)
          3. 11111mail.ru
            11111mail.ru 31 October 2014 16: 29
            +1
            Quote: smile
            in your opinion, dad Hitler, whom we, the bad ones, prevented, was nevertheless right, in your opinion? You are not alarmed by such like-minded people .... by the way, it is precisely the ideas of his faithful slaves-independents - that are now quite popular in Ukraine and supported at the state level.

            The dad you mentioned during the Second World War, according to officially recognized figures, destroyed about 20 million inhabitants of the USSR, and the failed "messiah" LD Bronstein, as a result of the policy pursued, during the civil war and up to his expulsion from the USSR, destroyed about 30 million citizens from "1/6 sushi". So why is Trotsky better than Hitler?
            1. smile
              smile 31 October 2014 21: 20
              +1
              11111mail.ru
              You with numbers, chtol, more careful, huh? During the Civil War, on both sides, plus non-combatants, died in the course of hostilities, mutual repression, from hunger, cold, epidemics, a real war against banditry - according to the maximum data, about 10 and a half million people.
              In the period from 22 to 53 years, in fact, during the permanent struggle of the USSR for existence with very specific enemies, about six and a half hundred thousand were executed across all borders ... all sorts of Bandera and Basmachis and the like went in there ...
              And what of them Trotsky killed 30 million? :))))
              By the way, there is no objection - Trotsky is still a beast ... but do you think that Kolchak, who filled the country with blood ankle-deep, was actually in the interests of his masters, or the bloody maniac Ungern were at least something better than Trotsky? And Yudenich? And the Mammoths? And Shkuro? Or are they Jews too?
              So, it would be worthwhile to be more careful, replicating the most reliable gossip of yellow rags and any svanidzemlechins ... otherwise put yourself in a "shameful position" ... :)))
              1. 11111mail.ru
                11111mail.ru 1 November 2014 06: 01
                0
                Quote: smile
                You with numbers, chtol, more careful, huh? ...- about 10 and a half million people.

                And more than 30 million. The figure does not frighten you? If you are not afraid to lose ideological innocence, then check out here in detail: http://www.otchizna.info/Arhiv2008/Otchizna17/Rossiiskaya_demografiya_19_-20_vek

                ov.htm
                and this taking into account only the period 1917-1922, and the system of extermination of the Russian (mainly) people, built by L.D. T (Br-nom) continued to work quite well until L. Beria stopped it.
                Quote: smile
                And what of them Trotsky killed 30 million?

                Not personally, similarly: Pol Pot (aka Salot Sar) did not personally break the skull with a hoe, but he also built a system to destroy the Khmers.
                Quote: smile
                Kolchak, who poured blood on the ankle of the country, actually in the interests of his masters, or the bloody maniac Ungern were at least something better than Trotsky? And Yudenich? And the Mammoths? And Shkuro?

                It was Leonid Trotsky who launched the process of annihilation of the Russian people in the civil war, he was the first to say "A." With him it became possible to pronounce and print - we read from A. Blok:
                "On the woe to all the bourgeoisie, we will fan the world fire ...",
                ... "Comrade, hold the rifle, don't be afraid!
                Let's fire a bullet into Holy Russia ... ".
                And from the opposite side: "We boldly go into battle for Holy Russia ..".
                Quote: smile
                it would be worthwhile to be more careful, replicating the most reliable gossip of yellow rags and all svanidzemlechins ... otherwise put yourself in a "shameful position"

                The creatures you mentioned below will never say:
                "In the current state, Russian society cannot exist for a long time, since creative activity is degrading, and the indigenous population is rapidly dying out and replaced by migrants."
                Taken by the way from there: http://www.otchizna.info/Arhiv2008/Otchizna17/Rossiiskaya_demografiya_19_-20_vek

                ov.htm
        3. Sirocco
          Sirocco 31 October 2014 13: 48
          +5
          Quote: sssla
          Jews argue and the Slavs quarrel among themselves

          And so it has been going on since 1917. Read N. Starikov (1917: Revolution or special operation). Ilyich rode in a sealed carriage with 30 associates. These revolutionaries have very interesting surnames. As Starikov himself writes.
          What it is? Payment statement? Recording waiting lists for visiting the synagogue?

          PASSENGERS REVOLUTIONARY:
          1. Abramovich Maya Zelikovna
          2. Eisenbund Meer Kivovich
          3. Armand Inessa Moiseevna
          4. Goberman Mikhail Vulfovich
          5. Grebelskaya Fanya
          6. Kon Elena Feliksovna
          7. Konstantinovich Anna Evgenievna
          8. Krupskaya (Friedberg) Nadezhda Konstantinovna
          9. Lenin (Blank) Vladimir Ilyich
          10. Linde Johann - Arnold Johannovich
          11. Meringof Ilya Davidovich
          12. Meringof Maria Efimovna
          13. Mortochkina Valentina Sergeevna (wife of Safarov)
          14. Payneson Semyon Gershevich
          15. Pogosskaya Bunya Hemovna (with son Reuben)
          16. Ravich Sarah Nakhumovna
          17. Radek (Sobelson) Karl Bernhardovich
          18. Radomyslskaya Zlata Evovna
          19. Radomyslsky Hershel Aronovich (Zinoviev)
          20. Radomyslsky Stefan Ovseevich
          21. Rivkin Salman - Burke Oserovich
          22. Rosenblum David Mordukhovich
          23. Safarov (Voldin) Georgy Ivanovich
          24. Skovno Abram Avchilovich
          25. Slyusareva Nadezhda Mikhailovna
          26. Sokolnikov (Diamond) Grigory Yankelevich
          27. Sulishvili David Sokratovich
          28. Usievich Grigory Alexandrovich
          29. Kharitonov Moses Motkovich
          30. Tskhakaya Mikhail Grigoryevich
          31. Rubakov (Anders)
          32. Egorov (Erich)
        4. Pushkar
          Pushkar 31 October 2014 14: 26
          0
          Quote: sssla

          Moscow Jews with Kiev Jews drag the pipe, divide income, steal gas, and Russians accuse each other with Ukrainians. Verily: the lords are fighting, at the lackeys the forelocks crack.
          And this is finally platinum words only in the proverb one change)
          Jews argue and the Slavs quarrel among themselves
          Or maybe you shouldn't offend either the Russian or the Ukrainian people - they say, stupid people, they don't decide anything, what the Jews say, they do it. "If there is no water in the tap, did you drink the water?" So, what?
      3. Andrey from Tver
        Andrey from Tver 31 October 2014 09: 36
        +6
        Quote: andj61
        You know, and ask yourself a question - did we really choose Gorbachev, Yeltsin, Putin? They all were imposed on us through backstage games (especially Gorbachev), as well as perfectly functioning political technologies.

        Hmm, did we really choose Medvedev? Or have they imposed it on us too? If imposed, then who could it be? wassat
      4. Antor
        Antor 31 October 2014 10: 49
        +1
        Yes, I agree, we are lucky that we have the country's leader V.V. Putin! But after some time, and V. Putin is not eternal, and he confirms this, who will come to power ...! ??
        Who will be the leader, what branch of the so-called elite will twist and twist the country only in its own interests!
        Another Gorbachev, Yeltsin, Kasyanov, Nemtsov who, to a large extent, didn’t give a damn about the country and the aspirations of its people ....! You see, they made a story, reveling in their outstanding, in their opinion, personality and its contribution to this story!
        Even the gait of some was so important, pompous, that I wanted to ask, what are you making up of yourself ..!? Be simpler and smarter and people will reach for you ..! Well, unless you ask them !? Or we don’t see how sometimes they answer us!
        Power and money, huge money is a serious temptation for any person, and how many have passed it with honor ..!? Their unity, the rest of their sins are atone for at best in the church, which is easier! But at the same time, they plunder the country, enrich themselves by exporting the stolen capital over a hill, the predatory privatization has almost been legalized, it’s good that they did not ruin Russia into specific principalities!
        And what did the people get, what does he get at all ..! ?? The crumbs from the lordly table, the stratification of the rich and the poor in the country goes through the roof, what to expect — I’m sure in this situation — nothing good! And interestingly, as we have another crisis, the number of millionaires and billionaires almost doubles.
        Of course it’s very good, they assure us, that such a landslide drop in the ruble, you see the oil companies, is of great help and compensation from the sanctions! Probably good! They do not change the dividend policy, salaries are not reduced, and if they are reduced, then they don’t even want to report to their favorite leaders, how much later
        runs in order not to scare people!
        But what about a simple ordinary citizen or citizen who only has time to calculate how much is enough for the higher, even officially announced inflation rates, agricultural products, and food in general, services, gasoline, etc. For them, the weakening of the ruble is also a holiday!
        There are no miracles — the real purchase value of salaries, pensions, allowances, etc., like the ruble goes down sharply — they are interconnected like twin brothers!
        It’s no longer funny to listen to supposedly the figures for the fall of the ruble, the inflation rate, etc. — it seems that they are considered by losers who have not 2 + 2 = 5, but vice versa 2 + 2 = 0.7 max 0.8999!
        As long as the double standards of our power and its elites in relation to our loved ones and the rest of society, we really will observe
        Shirley-myrli and with gas, and with oil and so on, and someone is not always trying to fool someone, but you know, but at the household level, ordinary people think more than it threatens him personally!
        And of course the image of "free Ukrainians", a kind of external enemies in our difficult times, suits our government to some extent, translating the degree of discontent of ordinary people with their impoverishment into external factors.
        And we really are with Ukraine, Belarus, today's Novorossia - one Slavic people, based on their centuries-old history, in our society a Ukrainian is indistinguishable from a Russian and vice versa, unless he takes the Bender flag and yells "m ... ku on gilyaku" and indeed, only the elites of Ukraine and Russia are to blame for what is happening today! On the greed for personal enrichment of the ruling elites, its oligarchs, the fire of fratricidal war is blazing in Ukraine today, and of course we in Russia must pass this difficult exam with honor so that this brotherhood does not remain only in memories! Success to all of us!
        1. DRA-88
          DRA-88 31 October 2014 11: 38
          0
          Quote: Antor
          Yes, I agree, we are lucky that we have the country's leader V.V. Putin!

          This phrase spoiled a wonderful post ... request
      5. 341712
        341712 31 October 2014 11: 25
        0
        Quote: andj61
        But we were very lucky with Putin, but they didn’t.

        From the above, I can assume that someone is behind the scenes with a card about a mistake)))))) laughing
    2. nvv
      nvv 31 October 2014 08: 57
      +5
      He also welcomed the Maidan.
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    4. siberalt
      siberalt 31 October 2014 10: 03
      +3
      Yes, no matter how the young democrats fooled us, but they did not instill hatred towards any people. So nothing to do with whether there is oil or not.
    5. Hyppopotut
      Hyppopotut 31 October 2014 10: 22
      +2
      And the Russians were worthy of Yeltsin, Chubais and others like them ....

      No more than 10% of the population of Ukraine sang to Bender. Most SILENT! There were those who opposed, but did not want to listen to them ...
      Most in Ukraine lived by the principle:
      "A contemporary of Galileo
      was not dumber than Galileo.
      He knew the Earth was spinning.
      But he had a family. "
      Well, today, by dissent, they shut up their mouths. How to plug in Russia in 1993
    6. Giant thought
      Giant thought 31 October 2014 10: 56
      +3
      No one except the Ukrainians will resolve the situation in Ukraine. So let them even out and don’t hope that a good uncle will come and solve all their problems for them, and we will only help New Russia.
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    8. Spnsr
      Spnsr 31 October 2014 11: 49
      +2
      weird! how does the author -> author -> author know what I think? Did he live my life and know how I think?
    9. Max_Bauder
      Max_Bauder 31 October 2014 11: 53
      +5
      I consider an absolutely incorrect comparison.

      Russians in Russia were not brainwashed so that they hated others, neighbors, for example. They did not abandon their past, even if there were shameful moments, but how many glorious times were. This should not be forgotten. The liberals that in Ukraine and in Russia, through the liberal media since the 90s, all tried to disgust the Soviet past, to be ashamed that they are Russian, that they are invaders, that they are worse than Europeans. they wanted to give such a feeling. The feeling of one’s own inferiority, like a certain mass, serfs, like slaves who are illustrated in the picture barge haulers on the Volga. But the Russians did not break down and were not deceived, unlike the Ukrainians. Now the percentage of Russians is much more who really know that in the West there is nothing better than Russian. And Ukrainians sincerely believe that Europe and the United States are grace and paradise on earth. Yeah, with their pedophilia, homosexuals and Islamists, high taxes (50%), absolutely no free life, I mean the neighbors’ denunciations for any reason, the possibility of thundering behind bars for any wrongdoing, for example, if you refuse to school so that your daughter does not attend school .k.s. lessons, refusal to pay unemployment benefits if you refuse to engage in prostitution (they have it legally), in short a bunch of everything. And that is FREEDOM.
      And it is precisely Russians, not Ukrainians, and precisely with the help of Putin, that can now become precisely that force, that pillar, morality and spirituality, which can serve as a bulwark of stability in this precarious World, when the discontent of citizens of all countries, corruption, local conflicts are everywhere , and fooling the masses of people by stealing large loans at the expense of the US Federal Reserve, and thus making them new serfs (if you are a simple citizen, not rich and you have large debts, but you have them, because you can’t buy anything right away, only a loan, and at a high percentage, then you can’t leave the country). So I want to say to the author, the desire to get a freebie - in such a way, is a vice not only of Russians, Ukrainians, but also Americans, Chinese, Indians and other God's creatures. And this is not an indicator of something, but simply a phenomenon.
  2. Abbra
    Abbra 31 October 2014 08: 44
    +1
    The material is strong, although somewhat controversial. Here yesterday, Mikhail Parechenkov threw a number, shot in Donetsk. Whom did he set up with such a fool? Journalists? Yourself? Russia? Passed an exam, or expel for failure?
    1. Grbear
      Grbear 31 October 2014 10: 14
      +4
      Abbra
      Here yesterday, Mikhail Parechenkov threw a number, shot in Donetsk. Whom did he set up with such a fool?

      This one did worse than the Makar. Russian art worker in a helmet with the inscription "Press" shot at people (prove that you did not hit recourse ).
      Deduct negative
      1. Abbra
        Abbra 31 October 2014 10: 19
        +1
        All right. And for such thoughts I almost got smeared on the wall in the comments.
        1. nvv
          nvv 31 October 2014 11: 20
          +1
          Be patient the Cossack ....... and there will be a holiday on your street. lol It’s impossible to sacrifice your principles.
          1. DRA-88
            DRA-88 31 October 2014 11: 21
            +3
            Quote: nvv
            Be patient the Cossack ....... and there will be a holiday on your street.

            Of course it will be November 7th! good
            1. nvv
              nvv 31 October 2014 11: 47
              +2
              Who am I seeing .....? Waldemar !! fellow Then your fans minus me on the question "Where is the report on the party with the representative of Donbass?" It's good if they are fans. What if they are fans? belay lol
              1. DRA-88
                DRA-88 31 October 2014 12: 23
                +1
                Quote: nvv
                with "Where is the report on the party with the representative of Donbass?"

                I am writing already !!! good
                1. nvv
                  nvv 31 October 2014 12: 52
                  +1
                  Not even half a year has passed. tongue
      2. Stanislas
        Stanislas 31 October 2014 11: 12
        +1
        Quote: GrBear
        with the words "Press" shot people
        Enchanting woodpecker this lyceum.
    2. marina1811
      marina1811 31 October 2014 10: 24
      -1
      Weird question...
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  3. seregatara1969
    seregatara1969 31 October 2014 08: 45
    +2
    test (test) temptations, withstand or not? resist or succumb to temptation?
  4. vsoltan
    vsoltan 31 October 2014 08: 48
    +5
    I read it twice and did not understand - what was it about? Am I the only one so dumb here? Article minus.
    1. Silumin
      Silumin 31 October 2014 08: 59
      +4
      As I understand it, Russian and Ukrainian are brothers forever, the elite must do something but it is not clear what, in case of what to accept it, the people must decide what, but it is not clear what.
    2. Serge Mikhas
      Serge Mikhas 31 October 2014 09: 04
      +1
      Indeed, the article is strange ... the author knows what the population of Russia thinks, what drives them, and what will happen if ... and leaves an impression of being very populist and immature. Exam? Yes, we, the Russians, have a whole history, an entire life exam, hundreds of years we pass it, and we always pass it. Yes, and immature, student associations with an exam are inappropriate here, we live like this, on one answer ...
    3. DRA-88
      DRA-88 31 October 2014 12: 03
      0
      Quote: vsoltan
      I read it twice and did not understand - what was it about? Am I the only one so dumb here? Article minus.

      Understanding can come if you change your outlook from "masters" to "comrades". yes
      1. Silumin
        Silumin 31 October 2014 15: 50
        -1
        Eh, it's a pity we don't agree on this issue, but the "comrades" lost 20 years ago, and will not return, but if they return they will get a turn from the gate and sharpen between the ribs.
      2. vsoltan
        vsoltan 31 October 2014 16: 56
        +2
        DRA-88

        This should be unsubscribed to you in PM, but if you are publicly - so will I publicly ... the forum will judge:

        1. Did you dislike something about me for a long time? Then what is the forum for? I, in the naivete of my soul, think - to express my own opinion ... I agree, I disagree ... but why systematically "run over"? ... that you are showing at the moment ... somehow too small, not is it true?
        2. I personally will not be able to move from "gentlemen" to "comrades" - well, genetics, to your regret or discontent, is not the same. Yes, I am one of the "gentlemen" ... the very ones that have served Russia for generations ... yes, I am not from the plow ... so what? Am I soiled already? Origin? Or service? So, it seems to me, it is not worth it so rudely and categorically ...
        3. You personally, of course, are smart ... only you are too categorical ... mind and wisdom are a debatable topic. You are either young, then categoricalness is excusable, or in this life there are few bits / oh, not a threat, they just express themselves in public / ...
        I hope you heard me and think a little. lol
        Respectfully..
        1. DRA-88
          DRA-88 31 October 2014 21: 04
          -2
          Quote: vsoltan
          This should be unsubscribed to you in PM, but if you are publicly - so will I publicly ... the forum will judge:

          I consider such a position a posturing!
          But I will try to answer you!
          1) Like dislike, leave this to the milliners.
          Quote: vsoltan
          ..but why systematically "run over"? ... what you are currently demonstrating ... somehow small, isn't it?

          I didn’t even try! Your arrogance says to you!
          2) I consider your public appeals as "gentlemen officers" inappropriate, since the RF Armed Forces adopted the appeal "Comrades Officers" (besides, not all site members are officers)
          3) Throw you this snobbery ... I personally, like many on this resource, are not interested in your origin and pedigree.
          Quote: vsoltan
          3. You personally, of course, are smart ... only you are too categorical ... mind and wisdom are a debatable topic. You are either young, then categoricalness is excusable, or in this life there are few bits / oh, not a threat, they just express themselves in public / ...

          All this I will leave without comment! stop
          Yes, I heard and thought!
          Yours! hi
          1. vsoltan
            vsoltan 31 October 2014 23: 51
            +1
            DRA-88

            I will answer in Hebrew - yes, arrogant, perhaps with a certain overestimation ... and what? I repeat - from the "gentlemen", to your rejection ... not from the "comrades" ... in general, not Vladlen, but Vyacheslav ... now he is already drunk, appeals to the Russian army - well, let him, but in part of the classics - how? Gentlemen, aha, nothing else .. and why a hint about the milliners? You called me, like, a bugger? I do not think that these are present on the forum .. this term, I also often use it ... personally I don’t want to offend you ... I’ll tell you ... I’ll regret it .... let's kick in a personal? tongue
  5. Russian jacket
    Russian jacket 31 October 2014 08: 48
    +3
    The article is objective enough, but .... Fair for the 90s and the beginning of the 2000s. Yes, there are thugs, but people who are ready to give them the same in the attic ... Yes, and the swamp showed that in the backwoods they do not give a damn about condoms ... We can not wash other distances and brains so much ... I judge by my character for many others. hi
  6. Selevc
    Selevc 31 October 2014 08: 49
    +1
    By and large, Russia should only care about transporting gas to its borders - the rest is the concern of consumers (EEC countries) ... I wonder why it is impossible to put on a pipe on the border of Russia with Ukraine a device for monitoring and recording the amount of outgoing gas? Representatives of the EEC and Russia would control how much gas came from Russia and how much reached the consumer - the rest of the problems are the problems of the gas-transporting countries and gas consumers !!!
    1. Naum
      Naum 31 October 2014 09: 09
      +3
      Yes, there are these gas meters on all pipes! The problem is that gas supply contracts are not concluded with the EU, but with specific companies from specific countries. We are responsible for the passage of the contracted gas volumes to the end consumer. Well, yes, it would be easier to "blow" through the pipe into "Europ" all at once, and then let them sort it out among themselves!))) Alas, it does not work.
  7. SAM 5
    SAM 5 31 October 2014 08: 50
    +3
    There is still some thing here - if we ourselves do not know what we want, then no elite will act in our interests. Only in their own.

    Whether we know or don’t know, the elite will always act only in their own interests.
  8. Gardamir
    Gardamir 31 October 2014 08: 50
    +7
    I want order and justice in the country. I do not want moronic shows. I want observance of our holidays, and not the imposition of pro-Western. I want Russian to be spoken in Russia, first of all the head. I want a lot of things, not for myself for the Motherland. But people in the Kremlin think only of themselves. How to ask that they too begin to think about Russia?
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    2. 23 region
      23 region 31 October 2014 11: 59
      +2
      Quote: Gardamir
      I want order and justice in the country. I do not want moronic shows. I want observance of our holidays, and not the imposition of pro-Western. I want Russian to be spoken in Russia, first of all the head. I want a lot of things, not for myself for the Motherland. But people in the Kremlin think only of themselves. How to ask that they too begin to think about Russia?

      KU. The truth is somewhere near. (mulder).
  9. Mikhail m
    Mikhail m 31 October 2014 08: 52
    +6
    The people always want peace, stability and prosperity. Any people. The elite wants money and power. Any elite. Complexities arise from this contradiction. Because only people can give money and power. Weaning methods have been worked out for millennia. With poor implementation of the methods, stress arises. As a result, we have Ukraine. To turn a prosperous territory into ruin is also a talent. Yes, and blame the neighboring state for this so that everyone believes. Even Europe.
    1. Gardamir
      Gardamir 31 October 2014 09: 05
      +4
      Even liberals recognize. that Stalin had at his funeral. except for the well-known French, there was nothing more. So it means the elite who thinks not about themselves is possible?
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        1. Gardamir
          Gardamir 31 October 2014 09: 27
          -2
          And that the Kremlin’s competitors simply will not be registered in the elections, so to speak, a bloodless way of elimination. It is constantly hammered into the head, which we have alternatives. Yes, the same Primakov. he wouldn’t let him spit on Russia, as everyone is doing now.
          1. Silumin
            Silumin 31 October 2014 10: 03
            0
            And I'm talking about too. Methods change the essence remains.
        2. Hyppopotut
          Hyppopotut 31 October 2014 10: 33
          0
          Any living creature, including and man taking care of his safety.
          If a living creature does not care about its safety, it dies as an individual or
          individual.
          Any leader, from the managerial house to the head of an enterprise or ministry, creates his own environment of trust. It is customary to call this a team.
          Neither Molotov nor Voroshilov did not touch Stalin, because these were HIS people ...
    2. Egoza
      Egoza 31 October 2014 10: 27
      +1
      Quote: Mikhail M
      Yes, and blame the neighboring state for this so that everyone believes. Even Europe.

      HERE! Do you know the difference between Ukrainian-Russian? The Russians will admit their mistakes, and will correct them, SAMI, the Ukrainians will look for the guilty! And wait, who will come to correct their mistakes.
      1. Cristall
        Cristall 31 October 2014 11: 01
        +2
        Quote: Egoza
        Ukrainians will look for the guilty! And wait, who will come to correct their mistakes.

        Am I not a Ukrainian? Since I plead guilty to myself (either they did it by being deceived, or they didn’t do anything by being sure that the authorities could handle it themselves)?
        In general, this expression is also invented and imposed. The Ukrainian is Russian no matter who. The main thing is who cooks this "cuisine" of national opinion.
  10. victorsh
    victorsh 31 October 2014 08: 53
    0
    Plus author! Do not forget -RUSSIA is a multinational country.
    1. Silumin
      Silumin 31 October 2014 09: 01
      +3
      Yeah, that's why 84% of the population are Russians.
      1. dmb
        dmb 31 October 2014 09: 21
        +4
        And what conclusion follows from this percentage, whether the Kiev and Moscow Jews are to blame for everything? When will we finally understand that the country's problems stem from social, and by no means national, division; that the Chechen bandit Kadyrov was brought to power by a completely Russian Putin, that a completely Russian Sechin is demanding budget money for completely foreign shareholders of his Rosneft, that it is Russian Serdyukov, appointed by Russian Putin, who ditched the army, and it was Russian Putin who gave him an indulgence. The foregoing does not mean at all that Abramovich and Rotenberg are innocent sheep, but it does not change the essence of the matter. By the way, are the mayors all Jews in the outback with collapsed hospitals and broken roads and mansions of local authorities?
        1. Silumin
          Silumin 31 October 2014 09: 56
          +1
          It follows that the country is mono-ethnic, and does not smell multinational.

          But from your words it follows that the Russians in general can not be in power.
          About the outback of the central Russian Federation, do you really think that money is taken from the air? How much is earned and spent (in addition to this we feed Chechnya), we are not Chechnya, which is a subsidized region in which 1000 out of 400 people are on welfare and 500 are dependent on it, while absolutely unnecessary things are being built, for example, a mosque named after Kadyrova.
          1. dmb
            dmb 31 October 2014 10: 11
            +2
            Everyone thinks to the extent of his depravity. I have given you examples of Russians who are no different from their brothers: Jews, Tatars, Uzbeks and Chechens. They all have the same nationality — thieves. Filthy roads and ruined hospitals in villages and mansions of power exist exclusively in all regions, including even over-subsidized Chechnya. And when thieves need to redirect the hatred of the people towards them, to others, they win-win recall of national pride.
            1. Silumin
              Silumin 31 October 2014 10: 25
              0
              Power, on the contrary, erases any beginnings of the national identity of the Russian people, since it is not Russian but Soviet, with a Soviet education, a Soviet worldview, and everyone was afraid of the Communist Party’s desk.
          2. CONTROL
            CONTROL 31 October 2014 11: 35
            +2
            Stalin - that’s who perfectly understood Chechnya, being a Caucasian!
            ... from a long (Soviet era) conversation with a Muscovite - a Chechen (born in Moscow, it happened to visit Chechnya, nationality - a Chechen): - A Chechen man can only hold a spoon in his hands besides weapons ... his best friends are a dagger and a gun ... Russian - in order to be slaves at the Chechen and work for him ... Russian women - for the pleasure of the Chechen, whenever he wants; but she doesn’t want to! ... well, hold on ... and Chechens - for posterity! ... to the question - why are they so scary (without a glass it will not stand up ...) got into a fight, got into snout (twice, but convincingly) ...

            ... maybe they are not all like that ... but this one! ... for a long time it was ...
        2. nvv
          nvv 31 October 2014 11: 38
          0
          Quote: dmb
          The above does not mean at all that Abramovich and Rotenberg are innocent lambs, but

          And the commissars were all Jews, and almost all Jews were in the government, and the GULAGs were headed by all Jews and now oligarchs, Jews. And almost all our rulers were fine-tuned Jews. Even put under Putin, otherwise he would never have become president. But maybe a good sign that he divorced? lol
          1. pahom54
            pahom54 31 October 2014 12: 34
            0
            Quote: nvv
            And the commissioners were all Jews


            Honor, in addition to the works of General Petrov, the commandments of both the Zionist and Soviet wise men ... Everything is very simple laid out there ...
            True, when you read literature on this subject, you begin to see THEM even in your wife and children .. Hehe, brush ...
          2. dmb
            dmb 31 October 2014 14: 00
            +1
            Well, with regard to interest in the government, I can only recommend reading the reference books, and not Roslyakov. Regarding the Jewish oligarchs, I gave the names of completely Russian bastards. The trouble with our nationalists is their terrifying illiteracy. They all consider themselves Orthodox, but for some reason they completely forget that one of the tenets of faith is that. that God made people equal. Consequently, nationalism and faith are not compatible concepts. Or was there no social inequality before the Bolsheviks, and peasant uprisings were not directed against the landowners Trubetskoy and Beloselsky?
            1. Silumin
              Silumin 31 October 2014 16: 10
              +2
              The trouble with our nationalists is their terrifying illiteracy. All of them consider themselves Orthodox.


              I am a nationalist and I am an atheist.

              Or was there no social inequality before the Bolsheviks, and peasant uprisings were not directed against the landowners Trubetskoy and Beloselsky?


              There were, but the situation was improving.

              And let's see the ethnic composition of the richest people in the Russian Federation, and compare with the share of this ethnic group in the population of the Russian Federation.

              And we will see that for 120 million Russians there are only 89 rich people, and for 160 Jews there are 000 rich people. Well, how can this be?
              Just look at the total capital, and roughly speaking, divide it by the number of representatives of each ethnic group, it turns out 1375 rubles per Russian, and 764375 rubles per Jew.
              See for yourself. And you will see who lives in Russia well.
              1. 11111mail.ru
                11111mail.ru 31 October 2014 16: 50
                0
                Quote: Silumin
                1375 rubles per Russian, and 764375 rubles per Jew. See for yourself. And you will see who lives in Russia well.

                Easily! "Who lives happily, freely in Russia ..."
      2. CONTROL
        CONTROL 31 October 2014 11: 24
        +1
        "- Why is a foreigner less eager to live with us than we are in his land? Because he is already abroad already. "Kozma Prutkov.

        ... Russia concerns - in full measure (to the question of the "Russian world")
  11. Prager
    Prager 31 October 2014 09: 00
    +3
    intrnnsnaya article, thanks to the author, gladly gave it a try.
  12. fomkin
    fomkin 31 October 2014 09: 02
    +2
    In the fresh newspaper "Argumenty Nedeli" there was an article by Uglanov "Mysterious bear - who is he?" I wanted the author A. Rusin to read it.
  13. vdtomsk
    vdtomsk 31 October 2014 09: 07
    +2
    The Ukrainian people are far from the whole continuation of Russia. Part, yes, continued, and part jumps. It is the people, not the oligarchs. They support those who are now in power. The rest, which are the continuation of the people of Russia, are now held hostage.
  14. anip
    anip 31 October 2014 09: 07
    +6
    They thought that the elite should pass this exam, but you shouldn’t?

    Don’t tell my slippers. When was the elite in the Russian Federation taking an exam for an event? Always just ordinary people and puffs.
    ..
    Confirmation that the elite has no exam at all:
    How are you going to take the elite patriotism exam, if you still do not understand what exactly the elites of the two countries - Russia and Ukraine - arranged for all this Armageddon?

    And finally it began to "arrive" that everything was arranged by Moscow and Kiev together?
    ..
    How tempting it is to believe your elite - that it leads, leads, leads forward, and do not think about anything.

    Yeah, it’s been 23 years. But the snouts are the same.
    ..
    * Inflation in Russia is 14 times higher than in Europe http://newsland.com/news/detail/id/1390599/
    * And here is a table on inflation in the USA http://fin-plus.ru/en/info/inflation_index/USA
    * Rising food prices in the regions reached 60% after the imposition of sanctions http://www.mk.ru/politics/2014/08/19/rost-cen-na-produkty-pitaniya-v-regionakh-d
    ostig-60-posle-vvedeniya-sankciy.html
    * Rising food prices will exceed inflation by 3% for the year http://top.rbc.ru/economics/29/10/2014/5450ed26cbb20fb9bcf05f54
    * Real wages of Russians have declined for the first time since the crisis http://www.kommersant.ru/doc/2599457?isSearch=True
    1. ovgorskiy
      ovgorskiy 31 October 2014 13: 11
      +1
      Something you did not collect all the liberal sites, add here the BBC Russian service, the voice of America, freedom and of course the New York Times. And the question is, how are you still alive? Before spreading your nonsense, check the source and filter.
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      2. 23 region
        23 region 31 October 2014 13: 55
        +1
        Quote: ovgorskiy
        Something you did not collect all the liberal sites, add here the BBC Russian service, the voice of America, freedom and of course the New York Times. And the question is, how are you still alive? Before spreading your nonsense, check the source and filter.

        And the source is simple. Go to the store and see.
        By the way, 1.5 trillion is 1 million each for all residents of the Russian Federation (146 million in 100) and will remain.
        This is not to take away and divide, but to evaluate the order of numbers.
  15. chinararem
    chinararem 31 October 2014 09: 15
    +6
    If we stop understanding Ukrainians, tomorrow we will stop understanding Chechens, Kalmyks, Ossetians.
    Oh, don't pass me such an exam! Ukrainians do not understand! Have you seen many Russians who say they hate Ukrainians? Personally, I do not. I see sympathy, the desire to reason, although this is not real. And they saw Ukrainians who hate Russians - millions of them are jumping around the squares, scribbling claudia about Russia, its president, without limiting themselves in expressions. But I learned to understand Chechens and Ossetians. I never thought that there would come a time when they would be more dear to me than the galloping fraternal people.
    1. Cristall
      Cristall 31 October 2014 11: 06
      -2
      Quote: chinararem
      If we stop understanding Ukrainians, tomorrow we will stop understanding Chechens, Kalmyks, Ossetians.
      Oh, don't pass me such an exam! Ukrainians do not understand! Have you seen many Russians who say they hate Ukrainians? Personally, I do not. I see sympathy, the desire to reason, although this is not real. And they saw Ukrainians who hate Russians - millions of them are jumping around the squares, scribbling claudia about Russia, its president, without limiting themselves in expressions. But I learned to understand Chechens and Ossetians. I never thought that there would come a time when they would be more dear to me than the galloping fraternal people.

      inattentively read the article, The kitchen of this opinion of "millions of jumping haters" of the Russian Federation is easy to create even in the Russian Federation if necessary. About Internet haters of the Russian Federation - it's so hard to create ... just anrial! smile
      nothing is possible for the media! And the picture will be created and the opinion will be collected and "the whole country" will be shown .. in the right context.
      I understand a little why it is necessary to create hatred of Ukrainians among Russians (this always starts with misunderstanding and hostility), but for some reason they did not pay attention to my warnings about the effect of this manual. And for half a year it will be like a training manual. And this is not at all a "Ukrainian" author and chef.
  16. RomanN
    RomanN 31 October 2014 09: 19
    +3
    Plus, I’m doing it right, just a little nervous. We are still ahead, after the crisis presses, and Moscow’s moronic corrupt policy in the regions still sprouts. In general, they consider chickens in the fall
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  18. 020205
    020205 31 October 2014 09: 26
    0
    Ukrainians, Shmukrainians! Brothers and sisters! To me they are not brothers who are not the ones from Kiev, not the ones from Donetsk. Children are sorry!
  19. pahom54
    pahom54 31 October 2014 09: 35
    +5
    No matter how offensive it was to read this article, but the author is largely right.
    I can add: SORRY RIGHTS. It's a shame, annoying, but, in general, the truth has always been an unpleasant thing.

    The only thing that I can reproach the author is the defense of "the same children" - that is, they were raised that way, and an attempt to compare them with Russia. In Russia, I have never heard the calls "KU to KU" in the opposite, inverted form, we do not have such hatred for Ukraine as they have for us.

    And again, the same "refugee", all the time telling him that something is not enough for him, that something was not enough, that he was provided with the wrong job, and in general everything is not so in Russia ...

    Poland - give coal for free, Russia - supply everything for free (by the way, you will turn out to be bad anyway), the EU - take it to yourself and provide ... If we are to compare nations, I don’t know a single Russian with such needs-needs .. .

    In general, the author raised a number of questions that scratched me both in my heart and soul.
    However, on reflection, I will nevertheless say: I am not talking about the "elites", I am talking about the "common people", which the author writes about and whom I have seen enough in our small town: THEY ARE NOT BROTHERS TO ME ... Unfortunately ...
  20. Standard Oil
    Standard Oil 31 October 2014 09: 38
    +3
    Again, what kind of exam is it already? Yes, and who should pass this exam? Someone who is a strict professor who will be examining us? Is it the West again? Russia has been playing for some 300 years according to the rules prescribed by the West, and with one goal, maybe it's time already finish this useless and unpromising game?
  21. marsavin.yu
    marsavin.yu 31 October 2014 09: 40
    0
    The article is useful to the elite, the people already know and understand everything. The elite will not understand - there will be 17 years - a reboot. And she can not understand only because of her greed.
    1. Silumin
      Silumin 31 October 2014 10: 20
      -1
      Aha and the counter revolution will win. RF just lacks a jumping bdl. with the slogan "take away and divide". Nothing you red d.u.r.a.ch.o.v. neither history nor Ukraine teaches. Or do you think that having arranged a socialist revolution, and then a civil war, immediately throwing Russia back in development to the same level of 1917, you will begin to live better? Or do you think by removing all those who disagree with repression, you will build a strong and durable state?
      Immediately jump the level of education? Scientists will come from the air who will move science forward? Naive.
      1. saigon
        saigon 31 October 2014 11: 26
        +1
        Interesting people jumping this tobish? It turns out when my country of the USSR collapsed and the shit and librarians came to power is damn good? And what is the Russian Federation a stub of a great empire a model of social justice? It’s not good to take away and divide whoever argued, but to steal it is to steal and plunder this model of democracy.
        1. Silumin
          Silumin 31 October 2014 15: 43
          0
          It turns out when my country of the USSR collapsed and shit and librarians came to power, damn it’s good? And what is the Russian Federation stub of the great empire an example of social justice


          You know, I don’t want to arrange srach in the USSR, but the USSR was not legitimate from the very beginning of its existence, anyway, the current Maidan is one to one, and as a result, at first the USSR was a stub of a really great empire. And about the social. justice of the USSR, I generally keep quiet, one name.

          All topic is closed.
  22. victorrat
    victorrat 31 October 2014 09: 42
    +2
    Of course, the minus to the author. how everything is simple, the oligarchs started everything, they are to blame, but the people are always right.)))))) And we also have to think)))
    And of course we don’t think about anything.
    But Bandera, with its bright brown color that flourished among its neighbors, is not a people. Mockery of Orthodoxy is not a people. There frightened people are sitting in apartments and looking at torchlight processions and dutifully donating money for broniks and sons for murder)))
    And the 55% votes - is it not the people, but the zombies? And who choose the breach Yatsenyuk and the executioner Poroshenko?
    1. Karabanov
      Karabanov 31 October 2014 11: 05
      +1
      The fish rots from the head ... Maybe they heard? There is still no directed national policy in Russia. Rather, it seems to be there, but ... it takes shape taking into account the financial interests of the same oligarchy. And it will be as long as they have access to oil and gas. And talking about their patriotic feelings is ridiculous. A national idea with this sauce can be served in any convenient way.
      In Ukraine, this process has been taken to an extreme. A significant part of the population has been turned into margins. In Russia, this was observed in the 90s, and now many people prefer to believe in illusory goods than to speculate about the source and nature of such "goods".
  23. fim lex
    fim lex 31 October 2014 09: 43
    +1
    It is necessary to think, but to think the hardest work, and to tear yourself up on horseradish? There is a pupil, there is a drink and on the Internet you can bazaar heartily. And what there tomorrow will be with us and with our children and to hell with him. Hence all our troubles, and America only devours the weak, and this, forgive the LAW OF NATURE, and you must not be offended by America, but by yourself!
  24. Begemot
    Begemot 31 October 2014 09: 49
    +4
    Minusanul, although I agree with many, BUT:
    create a large country in which Ukraine and Belarus were provinces, and not abroad

    Do they agree to become provinces again? Maybe we are also at 3 / 4 of loudness and hysteria, since we are so alike, that we are prevented from living in Ukraine and Belarus, for which they are urgently needed. Those Ukrainians who decided to sit out and wait (my hut from the edge) whose 75% percent according to the author, do they deserve a better life for free, maybe they have a kind fairy in their relatives?
    Yes, we also dismantled the monuments, a small part of the morons and villains participated in the MMM and choked on the line for free iPhones, but this is a very small part of the Russians, however, when 75% of the country's population becomes such, and it is still imbued with deep confidence that it is Russia, but they are not loved ones, to blame for everything - here forgive me, this is not 3 / 4 identity, it is already below zero.
    P.S. In my house there was a regional MMM center, I myself never had their pieces of paper, but I had seen enough of those who chanted slogans about justice and retaliation to scammers while they loaded money into cars from the yard and took them away. Otherwise, I can’t call them idiots.
    And yet, I don’t buy an iPhone in principle, because I think this crap is extremely expensive and useless, not able to improve my life.
  25. chinArmy
    chinArmy 31 October 2014 09: 49
    +5
    Despite all the propaganda on our TV, it is becoming clearer that our "elite" is not interested in anything other than the gas issue

    Patriotism, homeland, brothers - all this is not for them

    It seems to me that if Ukraine had not been a transit country for our blue fuel to Europe, there would have been no such tantrum about the coup
  26. hard
    hard 31 October 2014 09: 55
    0
    Quote: domokl
    , we call Russia-Russia ... And not Europe, or what else ...

    Plus for frankness, thanks. I want to add, I often heard from our leaders that it would also be nice for us to integrate into the EUROPEAN community (are you talking about us?), But I will look at the map and think: who should be built in?
  27. Sabtr_2
    Sabtr_2 31 October 2014 10: 09
    -2
    MANY THANKS TO THE AUTHOR Everything is true ... It is only a pity that the Russian elite with the help of their media, the apriori of all Ukrainians renamed the Nazis without discrimination ... And if someone from Ukraine is going to Russia for a long time -NON-MAN ...
    1. Panzerjager
      Panzerjager 31 October 2014 10: 17
      +4
      Lies.
      Residents of Donbass are always welcome.
      Or do we not see what they have to go through?
      People are different. Maybe someone said something unpleasant to the Donetsk resident. That is a matter of his conscience. Look more broadly how the Russian people in general are. Yes, only readers of "VO" have already transferred how much money to help the Donetsk people. How many tons of aid have already left. Does this mean less to you than the words of some idiot?
      1. Anatole Klim
        Anatole Klim 31 October 2014 10: 26
        +4
        Quote: PanzerJager
        Residents of Donbass are always welcome.

        I support that in Russia, under a million refugees from Ukraine, they accommodated, fed, clothed, and if conflicts arise, it is often not the fault of the Russians, dear guests often behave indecently, they have already told us about this several times.
    2. Cristall
      Cristall 31 October 2014 11: 10
      0
      Quote: Sabtr_2
      It is only a pity that the Russian elite, with the help of their media, the apriori of all Ukrainians renamed indiscriminately into fascists ... And if someone from Ukraine goes to Russia, he will still have to do it.

      oh well ..Yesterday, a brilliant commentary presented a general conclusion for Ukrainians - either they endure everything (Crimea war) or they are Nazis! I left no choice. Either you suffered, or a Nazi.
      This is a brilliant commentary by a Russian for a Ukrainian. Even the Ukrainians have not seen such "elections". But the truth is cruel. if you "dig" deeply.
    3. Casablanca
      Casablanca 31 October 2014 14: 22
      +1
      Something you got excited about the attitude of Russians to the inhabitants of Ukraine. Especially to the residents of Donbass. I myself live in the Donbass and I have many friends and relatives who live in Russia. And they all sincerely worry about the Donbass and pity us. They invite you to come to them if it will be tight for us ... And they help our refugees! So I don’t even know who offended you so much from the Russians? )))
  28. Panzerjager
    Panzerjager 31 October 2014 10: 14
    +4
    What is the difference between Russia and Ukraine, you ask? We don't burn fifty people alive. And after that we don't say that they burned themselves. We do not fire from MLRS of the city, mixing the fragments of concrete and the bodies of men, women, old people, children. And after that we don't say that they fired by themselves. We do not call the neighboring Slavic peoples "slaves" - although we would have flaunted on the flag (just like the flag of the association of people with Down syndrome) Khazar tamga. And our children do not crawl over the burnt wrecks of armored personnel carriers, where people were probably burned. Our girls are not photographed against the background of these twisted, iron mass graves. Our FSB does not catch "terrorists" who are going to blow up a military airfield with two grenades.
    And for a person who calls all the horror, all the filth of the civil war in Ukraine "an exam" ... I feel only deep disgust.
    1. Cristall
      Cristall 31 October 2014 11: 14
      -2
      Quote: PanzerJager
      What is the difference between Russia and Ukraine, you ask? We don't burn fifty people alive. And after that we don't say that they burned themselves. We do not fire from MLRS of the city, mixing the fragments of concrete and the bodies of men, women, old people, children. And after that we don't say that they fired by themselves. We do not call the neighboring Slavic peoples "slaves" - although we would have flaunted on the flag (just like the flag of the association of people with Down syndrome) Khazar tamga. And our children do not crawl over the burnt wrecks of armored personnel carriers, where people were probably burned. Our girls are not photographed against the background of these twisted, iron mass graves. Our FSB does not catch "terrorists" who are going to blow up a military airfield with two grenades.
      And for a person who calls all the horror, all the filth of the civil war in Ukraine "an exam" ... I feel only deep disgust.

      a great example of "formed opinion". But in order to get this opinion, very little was needed. It's a pity of course. The information war primarily affects emotions. And it is emotions that shape this opinion. And your opponent will begin to defend and attack emotionally as well (examples of your actions), in general, the argument goes nowhere. More precisely, I'm wrong - the dispute is precisely in order for someone to get the desired result.
      1. 11111mail.ru
        11111mail.ru 31 October 2014 16: 58
        0
        Quote: Cristall
        But to get this opinion very little was needed. Of course it is sad. The information war primarily affects emotions. And it is emotions that form this opinion. And your opponent will just as emotionally defend and attack (examples of your actions) in general, the argument is nowhere. More precisely, I'm wrong- a dispute is for someone to get the desired result.

        "... More precisely, I'm wrong ..." You couldn't say better!
  29. Panikovsky
    Panikovsky 31 October 2014 10: 18
    +1
    Comrade Rusin, what did you want to say? I didn’t understand anything, nothing follows from your article, it has no plot and excuse me, meaning.
  30. Name
    Name 31 October 2014 10: 21
    +2
    Greetings to all! Since 85 PEOPLE in the USSR, and then in RUSSIA all who are not lazy are examined, checked for strength, checked for the right BE On the Earth. Experimenting. The people managed. He survived. Win definitely.
    1. Silumin
      Silumin 31 October 2014 10: 58
      0
      It was the Bolsheviks who experimented right after taking power.
  31. 4445333
    4445333 31 October 2014 10: 22
    0
    Quote: andj61
    Quote: tilovaykrisa
    The people choose the power that they deserve

    You know, and ask yourself a question - did we really choose Gorbachev, Yeltsin, Putin?
    All of them were imposed on us through backstage games (in particular, Gorbachev), as well as perfectly functioning political technologies. In Ukraine, the same thing.
    But we were very lucky with Putin, but they didn’t.
    And so, basically I agree with the author - we are one people.
    It’s just not worth it to reduce everything exclusively to the games of Kiev and Moscow Jews!
    Will we be wiser and more capable than the Ukrainians?
    So far this has been the case. Russia started 23 years ago, obviously from a worse position than Ukraine, but was able to approach the intermediate finish with better results. I hope this will continue to be the same. Moreover, we, unlike Ukraine, have such a leader as Putin.
    and GAS.
  32. Karabanov
    Karabanov 31 October 2014 10: 34
    0
    After reading it, I thought that most of the local commentators would not like the article. Because it is actually correct, but there is a lot in it that clings and hurts their hurray-patriotic feelings ... Few would like to admit that they are essentially the same deceived puppets like those who rode on the Maidan (but with a national bias) , and the domestic "Ilita" is no better than the Ukrainian one. We have learned to scold and mock, but I don’t want to think and apply to myself.
    Article is my +.
  33. Stalnov I.P.
    Stalnov I.P. 31 October 2014 10: 35
    +2
    I don’t take a discussion of Ukraine, look at ourselves, and what our elite did for the benefit of the people and the fatherland, put everything offshore, ruined the economy and industry, let's compare the welfare of the people and the elite, the coefficients are 1:20, 1:30 and more , the ratio of the income of the poorest to the richest is the aggregate, and if you look at the number of people, the richest are very few in relation to the poorest. But the most interesting, our government was not able to make possible talented people to realize themselves, but those who have capital themselves realize themselves, although they are not always the smartest, but they have money, and it turns out that there is no equality in the near future expected.
  34. Dwarfik
    Dwarfik 31 October 2014 10: 45
    +3
    The author, it is one thing to buy iPhones cheaper, and another thing is reluctance to work and feed at the expense of another country, whether it be the Russian Federation or the EU. The article clearly traces the hint that to believe and trust is now considered a sin or something?
    If people believed and carried the money, and deceived them - people are not to blame. And if you look at yourself and criticize, so your Russians do not shoot from the Points and do not rape the villages! What is it called, paid and sent a whole area of ​​genocide? I don’t remember that among Russians.
  35. lankrus
    lankrus 31 October 2014 10: 51
    0
    All right. To unload the noodles from the ears you need to learn to ask yourself questions. Good article, correct.
  36. Cristall
    Cristall 31 October 2014 11: 23
    -2
    Awesome article. More such as a ray of light amid the information war. Of course, it also carries the connotation of war, but war for something else. What we have long forgotten. Or they make us forget.
    Surprised that VO missed this "peacemaking" article. The fashion is completely different.
    I'm surprised that there are so many comments "in the topic".
    I advise without emotion to simply question everything. To what you see what you hear. Try at least.
    I repeat once again - the media first of all hits on emotions! Having caused a certain degree of emotions, they are directed in the right direction. A person will definitely become a "slave" to the channel of opinion, cuisine, opinion factories.
    Ukrainians are the same Russians ... starting with Ukraine is like starting with all of us. Yes, however, all people are more no less the same, there is simply no difference! And when the "Ukrainian training manual" began to operate, she was thrown against the Russian Federation. Changing almost nothing in mentality. And she began to act!
    Once again, I will thank the author of the article and the administration for letting this article go. Well, readers.
  37. Nyrobsky
    Nyrobsky 31 October 2014 11: 37
    +2
    Article MINUS! And that's why. In the current Ukrainian crisis, the ears of the donkey who wrote the cheat sheet for the Ukrainians being examined are clearly visible. The exam failed.
    In order to change the elite, the Ukrainian people had to wait 1 year and elect a new president through elections. Despite the fact that Yanukovych "got" everyone - and with the "lively interest of the" examination committee "- it was quite possible to do it. But no. The crisis was growing, the American financial elite, fearing the economic strengthening of Russia and its success in promoting its interests in geopolitics, was forced to aggravate using the "poor".
    As for the exam for the Russians, it would not be out of place to recall an attempt to organize the Moscow Maidan in the form of a swamp white-tape movement in May 2012. And again, the ears of the same donkey that was spotted in Ukraine lit up behind him, only instead of Yaytsenyukh with Trupchinov — we had Mudaltsov and Zavalny involved.
    We must pay tribute - the government and people passed the exam and today we have peace. It is not known what shocks would have been if the marsh-liberal scenario had been successfully implemented. Ukraine would probably seem like babble.
    Hardly anyone wants to buy into the promises of the "donkey" about "a happy life without a dictator" - as it was 23 years ago, "freedoms were hiccupped."
    We have just begun to rebuild our Russia and the main thing is that the "donkey" does not prevent us from living for at least half a century without shocks and revolutions. If every 10-15 years to arrange Maidans and revolutions, then in 100 years there will be no one to be examined. There will be no country
  38. ando_bor
    ando_bor 31 October 2014 11: 49
    0
    There are crooks and thieves in Russia too, but when they shout about me, I see who and why is doing this, in the vast majority, they try to palm off others — mine — often overseas, hungry and evil.
  39. CONTROL
    CONTROL 31 October 2014 11: 56
    +1
    A story from the life of our (wheeled) brotherhood (not about me! I’m not allowed to travel abroad!):
    - Our carriers were hired abroad, to the Germans, on long-range, to drive trucks. We drove in a pair two refrigerator trucks with meat in the UAE (emirates) - one our Russian, the other German. On the way (mysticism, not otherwise!) Practically simultaneously and in one place they broke off, the engine stalled, the refrigerator turned off, and this is in the desert! heat, and the "technical" will be more than in a day ... like - "around five hundred" ... Well, the engine - you can still dig, and the refrigerator - alas ...
    Ours called the "technical", and began to poke around in the engine and in the refrigerator - the meat, 30 tons, heat ... sorry for the goods ... although he is not his own, and is insured, but - this is human labor!
    And the German was lying in the cabin, side by side, in the shade ...
    This is the attitude ... and there are more than one such case ...
  40. tan0472
    tan0472 31 October 2014 11: 58
    +4
    I did not like the thesis in the article that the Ukrainians are the same Russians, but without oil and gas. Otherwise, Ukraine would have lived the same way. This is refuted by one fact in the amount of 9,5 million people. This is Belarus. They have no oil and gas. They chose the elite themselves. Let it be not so democratic and "European directed", but OWN. Lukashenka always thought about the people. He modernized the industry as best he could (in the absence of minerals that could solve economic problems). Even if it once “warmed up” Russia (as, for example, in the case of buying oil at a significant discount in larger volumes than Belarus needs and reselling it at a profit). Let him not recognize South Ossetia. The Belarusian people gained from his decisions (or did not lose as much as they could have lost). I'm not saying that Lukashenko is perfect, but Maidan will not happen in Belarus (the government is not so corrupt).
    So the Ukrainians themselves chose their destiny (in the form of their elite), just as when the Russians, Belarusians, and Kazakhstanis. I, a resident of Kazakhstan, do not like everything in Nazarbayev's decisions. I have great doubts about the "ideality" of our president. But I'm definitely not ready to MaidanUtsya and drive my country into the ass for the sake of the mythical ideals of democracy and the mythical fight against corruption.
    So ALL Ukrainians deserve what they have now, because as my grandmother said, the Don Cossack - saw the eyes of sho kupovaly - eat, at least get out.
  41. Federal
    Federal 31 October 2014 12: 02
    +1
    ... Vladimir Putin - after the reign of Dmitry Medvedev - announced that he would run for president again in 2012, another anti-Putin hysteria again occurred in the West. I would not be surprised if one day it turns out that the cause of the hysteria was not the fulfillment of the forecast of the "Alternative Options", which suggested the ascension to power of the Westerner Boris Nemtsov.
    It was clear that from now on the West would go to a sharp confrontation with Russia. And Ukraine has become a very convenient occasion for such a confrontation

    And there’s nothing more to add.
  42. Fox
    Fox 31 October 2014 12: 09
    +1
    plyusanul ... about Moscow and Kuevsky Jews liked it.
  43. although
    although 31 October 2014 12: 15
    +1
    tricky too ... another attempt to confuse people.
  44. Grandfather Victor
    Grandfather Victor 31 October 2014 12: 44
    +1
    "We are three-quarters like Ukrainians." The author forgot to give the formula for calculating this very "similarity". And what, after all, does he want from the people? All processes in society are controlled by the elite. If it does it badly, then the outside elite begins to do it. And the people ... and the people want to live well, but how, they understand badly. However, an effective policy can only be based on the real aspirations and aspirations of the people. Carrots should not only be visible, but also enter the mouth in an amount sufficient to maintain the desire for it, i.e. to conscientious and professional work. By the way, our similarity with anyone else does not in any way imply the acceptability of burning people alive, killing women and children.
  45. lwxx
    lwxx 31 October 2014 12: 53
    +1
    I read the article and the comments and realized how easy it is to breed URA-patriots. Just give a direction: and everything started to go missing, we were thrown !!! And the meaning of the article is Europe and America turning away from us (Ukraine), and who will feed? All right again, Russia. So forgive us, it’s not we who are killing and raping, they are not good, and we are always good with you, etc.
  46. Amper
    Amper 31 October 2014 13: 19
    +1
    Dill, nevertheless a degenerate branch of the Slavs. The cause of degeneration is eating of their own kind, which has become widespread at the cult level.
    At least in our hearts we understand that the mess that is going on in the country, from our laziness, forgiveness, my hut from the edge, the giraffe is big - he knows better, it’s better to lie down, etc. And they have a cause-mosk ... and that took everything away.
  47. faterdom
    faterdom 31 October 2014 13: 24
    +2
    Sly article for loosening fragile brains. Type: Stalin and Hitler - totalitarianists, and unleashed the Second World War (yeah, and between the lines - Churchill and Roosevelt, Daladier and Vichy - well done, Franco and Mikado - apparently democrats).
    Or - the favorite mantra of "perestroika", which has not died down to this day - "We must all repent!"
    But the fact is on their face! This is a personal matter, and personally owes nothing to anyone, neither to the Poles, nor to the fiery Bolsheviks who burned down in the fire of the 37th. I am for Russia. Is always. He voted for Makashov when he was a rival to Yeltsin, and always besieged those who shouted and moaned for BEN.
    Who was Makashov at the time? This is not a politician, this is one of the commanders of groups of forces in Europe, who, in response to all the growing claims of the former "Brothers in the Camp" "to pay the damage for the environment," took - and officially stopped the withdrawal of his group of those very Soviet troops.
    Than plunged into horror both the Western "brothers" and the Gorboyakovlevites.
    Yeltsin at that time between uses demanded the separation of the Russian Federation from the USSR (!! ??)
  48. STALGRAD76
    STALGRAD76 31 October 2014 13: 26
    +2
    The article is very topical in fact. Is there a question of the relationship of elites and people in Russia, or the parallel of the same relations in Ukraine with a hint that everything is possible in Russia? The current and former presidents, we’ll never see them live, and only guess about their activities, this is not an reachable height of power, we won’t speak on a “comic scale with cosmic stupidity”, because everything is not presented to us like that.
    But in the regions, in our cities, are the processes affecting us personally? Volgograd is my hometown, a hero city, a city of pride and at the same time a bankrupt city, utilities in an endless decline - debt and theft, the city - turned into a provincial outback. The question of the relationship between the elites and people is not even a question, but a statement of fact - there is NO any relationship, people are completely thrown out of the management process of the legislative and executive local authorities, as a result of which abuse and fraud by the “powers of this world” occur, we are needed only for legitimization in the elections, we deserved such an "elite"? Large and smaller production facilities are closing. Test yourself for endurance? Will we not hear? Let's support the party course!? But what about the “elites”, who tirelessly care about our well-being, are they with us or where?
    Or maybe we do not notice these "elites", go about our business? In general, everywhere the situation is similar to the "elite"; the rest are surviving. The heroes of past wars are immediately remembered; their names in granite remind us of a feeling forgotten by many - I don’t even know how to describe it in one word. Did the heroes sacrificing themselves not know that there are “elites” (under any authority there has always been and will always be a privileged layer) ??? Who will answer, where is this balance, the "elites" and the rest, in which the rest do not rebel against the "elites" ?? Morality? Law? Everything is violated! Everything is possible! And with it, both to them and to us if there is enough money.
    I have some unanswered questions, I don’t see the whole picture, but do you have everything on the shelves? If God forbid, there will be a Russian Maidan with my own hands I will pee ... there maydanut ..., but I definitely do not for the course of the current "elite"!
  49. Tambov Wolf
    Tambov Wolf 31 October 2014 13: 43
    +3
    Well, we will supply gas to our "bartels" from Dill. Who was making noise there that they would freeze, eh? As always, our traders sold Russia for a pretty penny. To the country with which our guys are fighting, we make discounts, beg our money to pay us. At what stage Shamelessness can our rulers endure? For the people, the speeches in Valdai are one, for business comrades, but completely different. So now, in the warmth and in the light, you can soak Novorossia in the toilet further. After all, she did not listen and voted at the very beginning to sail away Dill, from which the faces in the Kremlin got bored. And now the roll has begun. "A cunning strategy" is called. And its whole essence is that: - "Loot for your pocket, burning speeches for cattle, a report in Fashington - the wolves are full, the sheep are nothing did not understand. "And what is interesting, what discounts. And now look how Macedonia, which has never been at enmity with us, at what price they sell gas. Razniua is two hundred bucks. Next, but what about the junta, Nazis, fascists, Odessa with burnt people, thousands of those killed under the bombs, it turns out ugh on them. The main thing is money and a discount of one hundred bucks And in the camp, meanwhile, housing and communal services are being raised, it will extinguish gas discounts, that's wonderful. Well, now put downsides and continue to praise our rulers with their cunning strategies. Everything is calm in Baghdad.
    1. Lenar
      Lenar 31 October 2014 14: 31
      0
      yes at all. sometimes even sickening to read the news, watch and listen to politicians.
  50. provincial
    provincial 31 October 2014 14: 28
    +1
    Moscow Jews with Kiev Jews drag the pipe, divide income, steal gas, and Russians accuse each other with Ukrainians. Verily: the lords are fighting, at the lackeys the forelocks crack.