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"New Russia should become the best part of Russia!"

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"New Russia should become the best part of Russia!"


The head of the parliament of the self-proclaimed Novorossia, Oleg Tsarev, told the Russian Planet about the elections in the unrecognized republics
Next week, the first parliamentary elections are to be held in the self-proclaimed Donetsk and Luhansk People's Republics. The correspondent of the "Russian Planet" talked about the election campaign in unrecognized states with the head of the Novorossia parliament Oleg Tsarev, who was once the closest supporter of the ex-president of Ukraine Viktor Yanukovych.

The former deputy head of the Ukrainian Party of Regions now sits in an office in the very center of Moscow, on Ilyinka Street, next to the administration of the President of Russia. At his office people of an impressive type in a military camouflage walk. On the table of Tsarev himself, four mobile phones are laid out in a row, which are ringing incessantly.

“Well, the new iPhone is a good thing, I have already bought it,” Tsarev informs someone from the telephone interlocutors. To the question of the RP correspondent about how to call his position right now, Tsarev, sighing, throws his business card on the table.

- It seems that most of the time you spend in Russia, although your position is called “the head of the parliament of Novorossia”. How could you characterize your activity now?

- I do not know how to describe me. For example, I recently returned from an inter-parliamentary visit to South Ossetia, where I met with local deputies and the head of the republic, made contacts, answered questions. He studied the experience of South Ossetia, which is similar to ours.

- Let's talk about the elections in the DNI and the LC. Now it is clear what territory will be voted on?

- On the territory where we can.

- I.e? Concrete territory is now known? Can you imagine how many polling stations there will be?

- I do not own the technical data, you should speak about them with the CEC (Central Election Commission. - RP). And if we talk about the procedure itself, then on November 2 parliamentary elections will be held DNR and LC. Then the elected deputies of the DPR and the LPR will choose the general parliament of Novorossia. As it is done in all confederations. In the parliament of New Russia will be both people from the deputies of the DNI and the LC, and outsiders.

- Who organizes the election?

- Central Election Commission. These are people with experience in conducting referendums in the LC and the DPR. We have made a good step forward in the development of statehood! The frames in the CEC are good.

- Will you participate in the elections?

- Perhaps I will participate in the elections of the general parliament of New Russia. But it will depend on whether people trust me. There will be no self-nomination procedure. Only public groups can be nominated.

- So you want to be nominated?

- Here, the desire of a person is not paramount, the main thing is the desire of the country of New Russia.

- Why do New Russia now elections? In the courtyard, war, power, regardless of the outcome of the vote, will remain in the hands of field commanders, not deputies.

- It is necessary to choose the power that will be vested with legitimate powers delegated to it by the people. Need legitimacy and authority. It is not right for the officials to appoint themselves and make the decisions they need. Powers must be trusted by officials people. This is a global system! Nothing else is invented.


Pre-election poster on one of the streets of Donetsk. Photo: RIA News


- That is, before the legitimacy you lacked?

- Well, of course.

- In truth, such a quick appointment of the elections of the DPR and the LPR looked like a response to the dissolution of the Rada in Ukraine and the appointment of parliamentary elections there.

- We said that we will hold elections as soon as the opportunity arises. As the level of military confrontation decreased, we immediately went to parliament. In the construction of statehood can be divided into several stages. First, we held a referendum on independence. Secondly, the recognition of New Russia by South Ossetia. Thirdly - the upcoming elections. The next stage will be the restoration of the economy and the restoration of normal life in the region. We are clearly going according to plan!

- Are you satisfied that the elections in Novorossia will be held in a smaller part of the territories of Lugansk and Donetsk regions?

- This is normal. We consider it necessary to carry out as it is. If our territory increases - no one bothers us to conduct by-elections on the annexed lands.

- Recently, the President of Ukraine Poroshenko adopted a law on the special status of the territories of the DPR and the LPR. Then your Deputy Prime Minister Purgin called it the right step on the part of Ukraine, and the next day, the head of the DPR Zakharchenko said that he didn’t care about Kiev’s decisions. What does it mean?

- They are both right. We welcome the signing of the law on the special status of individual regions of the Donetsk and Lugansk regions. We believe that this is not a guide for us to act, we regard this document as a gesture of goodwill, for which we see Poroshenko’s desire to negotiate peace. But we have laws in the territories that are passed by the parliaments of the DPR and the LPR. Throughout the rest of Ukraine, let the laws of Kiev be valid.

- That is to you, by and large, there is no business, what Poroshenko accepts there?

- Simply put: yes, it is. But there it is still curious that in this document the Ukrainians called our republics the word “Pridonbasye” - this is, as it were, a Freudian reservation. Because “Pridonbassye” is a territory that is adjacent to the Donbass, namely, all of Ukraine.


Opposition of protesters and police officers in Kiev, February 19 2014. Photo: Nikita Yurenev / TASS


“I recently read an interview with Zakharchenko, in which he spoke very paradoxically:“ after the conclusion of an armistice with Kiev, Novorossia was only defending itself, but in between times seized 38 settlements. ”

“I hope that the territory of Novorossia will be replenished not by conquests, but thanks to the peaceful transition of the territories of Ukraine to us.” The project of Ukraine without Russia is not viable. If we leave a state of humanitarian catastrophe, Ukraine will enter this state.

- Would you like to say that, depending on your success, Ukraine has proportional failures?

- I want to say that Ukraine is unlikely to last more than a year with such a power. And, apparently, new regions will join the New Russia. But Novorossia was conceived because of the implementation of the anti-Russian scenario in Kiev.

- The purpose of Novorossia is to become part of Russia?

- To become the best part of Russia!

“When I spoke to you in the winter, the Maidan was in full swing, and you argued that the Ukrainian security forces had every right to harshly suppress people who went to the streets of Kiev from weapons. However, you didn’t talk about the people who came out with weapons in Donetsk and Lugansk. Is there no contradiction here?

- During the Maidan, I have repeatedly said that it is necessary to stop what is happening, because otherwise a civil war will begin. Nobody listened to me. I said: let's stop, but, unfortunately, was not heard.

- But why, in your opinion, during the Maidan it was unacceptable to take up the armature, and in Donetsk it was already possible to arm with machine guns?

- People have the right to make decisions in the framework in which they dispose of themselves. Especially if they find themselves in a situation like this spring in the Donbas.

- It is believed that the forces of Novorossia were divided into two camps - “the party of war” and “the party of negotiations with Kiev”. Moreover, the "war party" was actually out of elections. In particular, one of the most famous characters in Novorossia, Igor Strelkov, does not participate in them, and the former “people's governor” of the Donetsk region Pavel Gubarev is not allowed to take part in the elections.

- How is Gubarev not allowed? I don't know about that. But I know that ten people from his supporters are admitted to the elections. I have not heard about the fact of non-registration of his political power.

- But this is not quite so. Because there was a message that he was not allowed before the elections, then Gubarev promised to make some important statement about his participation in the elections, after which he was attacked, and no statement was made.

- I think you have unconfirmed information. And about the division of opinions into two camps - this is normal. We have pluralism.


Igor Strelkov at a press briefing in Donetsk, July 12 2014. Photo: Zurab Javakhadze / TASS


- Why is the Shooters not participating in the elections?

- We must ask him. He left Novorossia. How is he elected? In addition, in the electoral legislation, we have a point on which it is impossible to put forward, without having lived in the last five years in the Luhansk or Donetsk regions. Therefore, neither I nor the Strelkov can be elected to the parliaments of the DPR and the LPR.

Other prominent people of Novorossiya can not be elected, including, for example, Sasha Borodaya (former Prime Minister of the DPR. - RP). By the way, I saw Igor [Strelkov] recently. We were on the recording of one of the versions of the anthem, which was performed by Vika Tsyganova.

- Have you discussed the affairs of New Russia?

- No, just met and said hello. He is more involved in domestic politics in Russia, rather than Novorossia.

- And how do you feel about the fact that the Strelkov and other Russians at one time came with a weapon to fight on the territory of Ukraine?

- Nobody came with a weapon; Russian border guards with weapons would not have missed them. More than two thousand Russian volunteers fought in Serbia. We have a lot less.

- And it is right?

- I think that's right. A person can manage his life as he wants. And a person has the right to be where he wants.

- In Russia, when, say, the Americans are trying to influence something, the phrase “export of revolution” sounds. And the Strelkov and others did not export the revolution in the Donbass?

- Not. After all, the vast majority of participants in the events in Novorossia are local residents.

- As I understand, some problems have now begun with humanitarian convoys to Novorossia. This is true?

- People get tired of any events. From the war - even more so. The reaction of the Russian media and ordinary people can see it. It was very strong shock from the events in Ukraine. This property of the human psyche: close and hide from problems. Difficulties with humanitarian aid are small, but present. This is probably due to the fact that the Russians are tired.
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  1. Akvadra
    Akvadra 25 October 2014 14: 54
    +16
    Svidomo stole, but the elections will try to disrupt. You don’t have to go to the grandmother.
    1. de klermon
      de klermon 25 October 2014 15: 03
      +12
      "Hour X" - the day after the elections to the Rada ... According to the experience of powder-prezik elections after "registration of success" in the form of "counting of votes" Svidomites as a drug addict during their "arrival" are capable of a lot! ..
      PS It's hard to talk about the murder of the military-industrial complex in Ukrostan now: the tank repair factories and the Kharkov tank plant are overwhelmed with work, but that's what will become of them after the trash they are repairing ends ... Unfortunately, the Kharkov workers hardly think about it either who do not even think about the fact that the Nazis can come to their families on their own repaired armor!
      1. ZKB
        ZKB 25 October 2014 15: 14
        +7
        The hacker organization Cyberberkut has disrupted the electronic vote counting system and the website of the CEC of Ukraine, according to the organization’s website. UKRAINIANS ALSO UNDER THE THREAT)))))
      2. persei
        persei 25 October 2014 16: 40
        +1
        Yes,
        "Hour X" - the day after the elections to the Rada ...
        YOU'RE RIGHT!

        Special correspondent of Komsomolskaya Pravda Dmitry Steshin told Twitter on the microblogging network that the Ukrainian army, the National Guard and punitive battalions are preparing for an attack on election day.

        “In Donetsk, the lull continues. The DNR Defense Minister confirmed: the Armed Forces of Ukraine are preparing for an attack on election day to the Rada. The militia has advanced, ”Steshin said Saturday morning.

        On Friday, the KP special correspondent also spoke about the alarming situation in the city.

        “Oddly enough, on Friday in Donetsk, it was not the constant cannonade that worried, but the almost daily calm. Silence breaks out of the usual context, it bothers everyone, without exception. The news is not good. We checked them through our sealed sources, and asked officials - Zakharchenko, Plotnitsky, Mozgovoy. Everyone speaks with one voice - the Ukrainian army is preparing an offensive. Former commander of the DPR Igor Strelkov noted that the troops of the ATO adopted an “offensive configuration”. According to leaking information, the Ukrainian army continues to stand in the fields. Of course, she will not winter in the fields, which means she is waiting for an order to move.

        Unmanned aerial vehicles over checkpoints and positions in key places for the offensive intensified. The enemy provokes shelling of the militia to open the fire system. Despite the losses, "reconnaissance in force" is being carried out. A week ago, a company with armored vehicles tried to get between the militia positions in Gorlovka and Enakievo. We felt for weaknesses, spotted the firing points, checked the interaction of the two garrisons, their response to changes in the operational situation, and detected the frequencies at which the radio was exchanged.
      3. wax
        wax 25 October 2014 19: 02
        +2
        The X hour will most likely come on the night of Sunday to Monday, possibly even before the polls close. Or not at all in the light of Putin's warnings.
    2. de klermon
      de klermon 25 October 2014 15: 15
      +9
      About the elections to the Rada, the slogan from Ukrainian reality in 1918: "This Rada is not happy herself that she is Rada"!
      Parliament and the leaders of New Russia success!
    3. Penzyac
      Penzyac 25 October 2014 15: 22
      +2
      Quote: Akvadra
      Svidomo stole, but the elections will try to disrupt. You don’t have to go to the grandmother.

      This is all of their (Svidomo) Wishlist, they and the referendums in the DPR and LPR wanted to prevent or disrupt ...
      1. Andriuha077
        Andriuha077 25 October 2014 15: 54
        +2
        Quote: PENZYAC
        This is all their (Svidomo) Wishlist

        Like a truce
        this was in the 2012 year, when Bashar al-Assad was forced to agree to a truce absolutely unprofitable for him with the militants in Homs, which allowed them to regroup, and the West to carry out a massive pumping of Islamists with weapons, money and people. Already after 4 months, the militants attacked Aleppo and Damascus, and the consequences of this truce continue to this day.
        el-murid.livejournal.com/2052695.html
    4. Sergei1982
      Sergei1982 25 October 2014 16: 28
      +5
      But if I’m not mistaken, only Tsarev from the former people of Yanukovych could not be broken, Dobkin and Kernes merged.
      1. Non-war
        Non-war 25 October 2014 22: 04
        +1
        But if I’m not mistaken, only Tsarev from the former people of Yanukovych could not be broken, Dobkin and Kernes merged. - this is because the Tsarev has stopped in Moscow now, it is objective. Sitting in the office next to the Presidential Administration is a lot of heroism, so as not to be unbroken. But if he had stayed in Kiev and proved there that the current government is Bandera and the junta, then it could be called that.
        1. Lelek
          Lelek 25 October 2014 22: 40
          +4
          Quote: Non-war
          But if he had stayed in Kiev and proved there that the current government is Bandera and the junta, then it could have been called that.


          If he had stayed in Kiev, now his wilted carnations would have been lying on his grave. yes
    5. Giant thought
      Giant thought 25 October 2014 16: 40
      +3
      We wish the authorities of New Russia successful elections in the parliaments of the republics.
    6. Denis fj
      Denis fj 25 October 2014 21: 30
      +1
      Anthem of New Russia

      The falcon soared above the clouds
      This is Russian land!
      From Potemkin with gifts
      New Russia has entered.

      Catherine called
      In that Empire is a pier.
      Here is the greatness of the giant,
      Where did the Russian anchor rise.

      New, love page,
      Honor and Glory forever!
      How not to be proud of it,
      Where is valor and soul?

      Strength is ours,
      Do not break, do not intimidate!
      With faith we are on the march again
      To save the Russian.

      We’ll break the junta’s claws again
      Knock her head,
      We’ll play the march of the Slavs,
      In the coffin ominous voby!

      The falcon soared over the sky
      This is Russian land!
      Ancestors WE swear by Heaven
      TOGETHER WE ARE ONE FAMILY!
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  3. cerbuk6155
    cerbuk6155 25 October 2014 14: 56
    +8
    The junta will try to spill blood in New Russia to prevent the elections. soldier
    1. Penzyac
      Penzyac 25 October 2014 15: 24
      +1
      Quote: cerbuk6155
      The junta will try to spill blood in New Russia to prevent the elections. soldier

      Are they not afraid to stay without an army?
    2. Viktor Kudinov
      Viktor Kudinov 25 October 2014 15: 29
      +2
      Judging by the preparation of the offensive, then, indeed, on the day of elections in Novorossiya may not be before the elections. But you shouldn't make a tragedy out of this, because here is a different "football" - a "match" will take place in any weather. soldier
  4. Abbra
    Abbra 25 October 2014 14: 59
    +7
    In general, if you carefully analyze the statements of various leaders of New Russia, then involuntarily an opinion is created about a certain dissonance. It seems to be a choir. But the voices are upset. Some have no voice at all.
    1. vtnsk
      vtnsk 25 October 2014 15: 15
      +1
      This is how "elections" are arranged to determine the "right to vote". Let the people of Novorossiya themselves choose their "leaders" ... smile
    2. Penzyac
      Penzyac 25 October 2014 15: 29
      +1
      Quote: Abbra
      In general, if you carefully analyze the statements of various leaders of New Russia, then involuntarily an opinion is created about a certain dissonance. It seems to be a choir. But the voices are upset. Some have no voice at all.

      This is because in Novorossia, the initiative, basically, comes "from the bottom" (in contrast to Crimea, where the initiative "from the top" was only reinforced and supported by the initiative "from the bottom"), and how many people (in the "bottom"), so many and opinions.
  5. kompotnenado
    kompotnenado 25 October 2014 15: 00
    +5
    The journalist is a clear provocateur. The Donetsk and Lugansk events took place after the Kiev events against the background of absolutely unpunished fascist crimes of the ukronatsiks.
    1. vtnsk
      vtnsk 25 October 2014 15: 16
      +1
      The journalist is trying to be as much as possible. objective... These are the "standards" of this profession ... smile
      1. Lelek
        Lelek 25 October 2014 22: 54
        +2
        Quote: vtnsk
        These are the "standards" of this profession ..


        Standards are not a personal position. The standards are mostly correct, but the correspondent can be either outright lying, or a corrupt skin, or uncompromisingly honest (I do not take skill into account). So the last category is particularly difficult if he (the correspondent) was not trampled from the editorial board for integrity and integrity, and if trampled, then consider it - kirdyk. stop
    2. Penzyac
      Penzyac 25 October 2014 15: 31
      +1
      Quote: kompotnenado
      The journalist is a clear provocateur. The Donetsk and Lugansk events took place after the Kiev events against the background of absolutely unpunished fascist crimes of the ukronatsiks.

      That's why he is a journalist in order to ask uncomfortable, including provocative, questions.
  6. Iline
    Iline 25 October 2014 15: 01
    +2
    The people, of course, cannot live without power, at least some. That's just annoying candidates for power in these areas. jumped out like a hell out of a snuffbox and what they have in mind is not clear.
    1. vtnsk
      vtnsk 25 October 2014 15: 23
      0
      This always happens in all newly formed states. Remember what happened in Russia in the early 90s and you will understand that "nothing is new under the Moon" ... smile
  7. Siberian
    Siberian 25 October 2014 15: 01
    +4
    The Russians would not "get tired" if there was no such confusion between the numerous and incomprehensible "authorities" of Novorossia.
    1. SAXA.SHURA
      SAXA.SHURA 25 October 2014 15: 17
      0
      I have nothing against it, but I don’t understand why in Novorossia some endlessly leave, others come to power, what kind of games are these.
  8. Serge Mikhas
    Serge Mikhas 25 October 2014 15: 04
    +2
    Despite everything, Novorossia needs to elect and strengthen civilian, and especially military, power. It is high time to cement all the forces of the republics in the struggle for their own freedom.
  9. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 25 October 2014 15: 04
    +3
    When I spoke with you in the winter, the Maidan was in full swing, and you argued that the Ukrainian security forces had every right to severely suppress people who went out into the streets of Kiev with weapons. However, you did not talk about people who went out with weapons in Donetsk and Lugansk. There is no contradiction?

    And practically all questions from the "Russian Planet" are in the same provocative spirit. What is the "Russian Planet"?
    1. Penzyac
      Penzyac 25 October 2014 15: 35
      +1
      Quote: rotmistr60
      When I spoke with you in the winter, the Maidan was in full swing, and you argued that the Ukrainian security forces had every right to severely suppress people who went out into the streets of Kiev with weapons. However, you did not talk about people who went out with weapons in Donetsk and Lugansk. There is no contradiction?

      And practically all questions from the "Russian Planet" are in the same provocative spirit. What is the "Russian Planet"?

      So what? Did Tsarev respond poorly? good
      I would listen to Klitschko or Psaki in a similar situation ... lol
  10. Vyacheslav 64
    Vyacheslav 64 25 October 2014 15: 07
    +3
    May all our dreams of a fair state come true in New Russia!
    1. Penzyac
      Penzyac 25 October 2014 15: 36
      0
      Quote: Vyacheslav 64
      May all our dreams of a fair state come true in New Russia!

      I sincerely wish it!
  11. andrew42
    andrew42 25 October 2014 15: 18
    0
    Elections will be held under fire. No need to go to the fortuneteller.
  12. Arkuda
    Arkuda 25 October 2014 15: 19
    0
    Well, if the elections take place, because there is a high probability of resumption, by the junta, of military operations after the elections in Kiev.
  13. vtnsk
    vtnsk 25 October 2014 15: 20
    0
    Elections legitimize authorities of New Russia for the possibility of establishing through them relations at the interstate level (read - with Russia)! Who does not understand, I am not to blame ... smile
  14. Tyumen
    Tyumen 25 October 2014 15: 24
    +2
    Muddy type. The very future of Novorossia is still not quite clear, there is an offensive on the nose, and he is * making contacts * in Ossetia. Pluralism is with him. Half of the people for the war, half for the world - such pluralism is normal. Yes, February comes to mind.
    1. Non-war
      Non-war 25 October 2014 22: 27
      0
      Muddy type. The very future of Novorossia is still not quite clear - and there the main trouble, in the LPR and the DPR, is that there are a lot of muddy types at the top. Half of them are in Moscow and they don’t leave the central Russian channels, they are stupidly promoting themselves. And their place is actually on the front line, and not in Moscow offices and studios.
  15. VNP1958PVN
    VNP1958PVN 25 October 2014 15: 37
    +1
    Elections, of course, are important and necessary. But Kakly will try to strangle New Russia in the bud after their elections, i.e. after October 26th! Russia needs to guarantee
    so that "self-proclaimed republics" will survive until November 2, and not a field plowed by war!
    1. Federal
      Federal 25 October 2014 15: 44
      +3
      Quote: VNP1958PVN
      ... so that "self-proclaimed republics" will survive until November 2, and not a field plowed by war!


      Plowman has not grown yet!
  16. 29261
    29261 25 October 2014 15: 39
    +2
    On October 26, Svidomo’s elections to the Rada, and on October 27-28 they again climb out to play in the so-called active phase of the ATO, since it’s similar to let the elections be held at Donbas. A legitimate government that can officially enter into various treaties is really scary for the Banderlog junta !
  17. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 25 October 2014 15: 45
    +3
    By all appearances, they will try to disrupt the elections in Novorossiya. Next week will be hot. If they cannot achieve at least some override, winter will come. This is where the "moment of truth" will be. Undoubtedly, dill will steal transit gas, well, they will not be able to resist, this is just such a psychology. Europe will shout that Russia is freezing them. But South Stream will still be blocked.
  18. Password
    Password 25 October 2014 15: 54
    +3
    New Russia is born in agony. But it must live and develop. Otherwise, the belief in justice among many Russian people will be undermined.
  19. valentina-makanalina
    valentina-makanalina 25 October 2014 16: 18
    +4
    in the electoral law, we have a point on which you can’t be nominated without having lived
    the last five years
    in Lugansk or Donetsk regions. Therefore, neither I nor I can be elected to the parliament of the DPR and LPR
    Shooters
    .

    Interesting fad.
    You can fight and die for New Russia, but you can’t be elected to the government.
    So strangers are not allowed to let. Entrance only for their own.
    In time, Ruriks slipped into Kievan Rus.
  20. Lentosder
    Lentosder 25 October 2014 16: 35
    +1
    Quote: valentina-makanalina
    You can fight and die for New Russia, but you can’t be elected to the government.
    So strangers are not allowed to let. Entrance only for their own.
    In time, Ruriks slipped into Kievan Rus.

    In fact, everything is true! In the local parliaments should be everything from Donetsk and Lugansk! But Tsareva can be nominated to the united parliament of Novorosia laughing
  21. SveTok
    SveTok 25 October 2014 16: 54
    +1
    Elections in Novorossia are positive; it is statehood, legality, etc., that elections in Ukraine are negative; after all, delegates who come back on the crest of a muddy wave simply cannot establish the economy, lawlessness is closer to them and chaos will only intensify.
  22. AIR ZNAK
    AIR ZNAK 25 October 2014 17: 10
    0
    First of all, capital will climb into the elections. And the fighting heroes of New Russia at this time will be in positions and they will have no time to engage in self-promotion. This is not gut
  23. Cristall
    Cristall 25 October 2014 17: 19
    +1
    what is the title of the article "Poroshenko banned the military-industrial complex"?
    I don’t understand anything - the article somehow does not even consider this heading.
    In terms of what he banned? Where? It seems that the domestic order is growing - we are not giving back the export. We ask for more.
    Maybe a hint about the ban on collaboration (which unofficially doesn't work)
    I don’t understand anything .. I went to read what he forbids there and found only an interview about the elections in the DPR / LPR
    I’d like to get the Kremlin a little farther, let’s have parliamentary elections, who does the Kremlin rely on? How will it react? Or everything is old - anyway, like ... failed tactics .. if before, losing still didn’t mean much. And played out.
    Who would you recommend voting for?
    PS yesterday I heard the speech of Symonenko (disowned the Opposition bloc), Poroshenko suddenly "grew up" in my eyes because of the flight to Odessa on Annushka (he began to "grow older" after Mariupol)
    but the trouble is - many in Odessa turned away from Gunpowder because of mobilizations and prices (promised "myr") it will be difficult to regain the trust of Odessa citizens. The rating of the "peaceful party Tigibko" has grown
    Wait, the radicals are not in fashion at all (at least in Odessa)
    Tired of even on the Maidan.
    motley candidates for parliament and tomorrow we’re going to choose (as animals choose between Gerasim and Pavlov on the poster), but we must go. ZU and ZU many times won only because all go out to vote. And we (SE) generally rest ... we don’t fight for ours .. a priori are more lazy on this front (because we rightly believe that the elections win in advance)
    1. Aleksey_K
      Aleksey_K 25 October 2014 19: 00
      +1
      The author is inaccurate in his phrases: "Poroshenko has banned the cooperation of the Ukrainian Defense Industrial Complex with Russia." The slang of some people has reached the point of complete misunderstanding by the readers.
  24. pahom54
    pahom54 25 October 2014 17: 40
    0
    Either questions are uncomfortable, or Nikakov’s answers ... I don’t know, it’s just that he is sitting in Moscow and waiting for him to be presented (!!!) with a position on a silver platter, he personally turns me away from him ...
    And if what I can agree with him is that:
    "- I want to say that Ukraine is unlikely to exist for more than a year under such a regime" ...
    1. Aleksey_K
      Aleksey_K 25 October 2014 19: 02
      0
      And what do you think will be?
      1. pahom54
        pahom54 25 October 2014 22: 13
        0
        Quote: Алексей_К
        And what do you think will be?


        It seems to me that characters will change several times and using several methods, BUT, most likely, they will all be puppets of the West ... If Ukraine becomes the head of the pro-Russian president and prime minister, then if it does, it will be very soon ...
        1. Aleksey_K
          Aleksey_K 25 October 2014 22: 41
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          Russia does not need a pro-Russian president in Ukraine. In Ukraine there should be a president for Ukraine. He just has to be friends with neighbors, both in the West and in the East and develop the country's economy. The richer, on average, people live, the less turmoil there will be in the country. Ukraine may not like Russians. For example, I do not like the Germans because they plunged the USSR into poverty, devastation and destroyed tens of millions of people. I think this nation is villainous, because in the bowels of this people fascism again begins to rejoin. Ukraine now is an excuse for the revival of fascism in Germany. Many Russians are also wary of Ukrainians, especially when they prevailing in the leadership of the USSR, constantly plunged the USSR into crises and brought to collapse.
          1. pahom54
            pahom54 26 October 2014 08: 18
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            Quote: Алексей_К
            Russia does not need a pro-Russian president in Ukraine.


            I will say this: I incorrectly expressed my thought. First of all, I had in mind the imputed authority, sane people with whom you can talk about something and decide something ... And not this gopota, which is embarrassing to listen to and disgusting to look at them ...
  25. Lyolik
    Lyolik 25 October 2014 18: 46
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    Everything will be in the hands of the people of New Russia, as they want to live, they will be so. No matter how strong the force of opposition (evil) is, the people are stronger.
    Look at the poster, it says: vote for life. So I want to wish the inhabitants of New Russia, so that soon life will be settled peacefully, happily, joyfully. love
  26. Dave36
    Dave36 25 October 2014 20: 11
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    Everything has already been decided. GDP said yesterday that Russia would not allow a power scenario .... and as the saying goes ... Yes, and about Lviv and the center in Novorossiysk ... just in time)
  27. polkovnik manuch
    polkovnik manuch 25 October 2014 21: 12
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    Not tomorrow, the day after tomorrow, but by the middle of next week, it will become clear what will happen next in the Outskirts and in Novorossia, naturally, I think the "war party" will win the elections, today we must admit that% 30 of the population of dill supports them, the question was whether they had time to prepare in Novorossia .They need comprehensive help, they will withstand the blow, they will wear down the pravosek with the "guards", which means that before the New Year the "Ukraine project" will be closed (to start a big war because of them, none of the current patrons will want to, because this will become a universal end) ...
  28. vignat21
    vignat21 25 October 2014 21: 43
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    Igor Strelkov recalled from vacation
    News | Date: 25.10.2014/52/XNUMX | [Views] XNUMX
    According to unconfirmed information, the former commander of the Donbass People’s Militia and the Minister of Defense of the DPR Igor Ivanovich Strelkov returned from short-term leave from the Russian Federation.
    http://3mv.ru/publ/igor_strelkov_otozvan_iz_otpuska/1-1-0-32485
  29. datur
    datur 25 October 2014 21: 46
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    That's right, all YUZHMASH- to us !!! nefig jump !! Business must be done !!! drinks winked
    1. Aleksey_K
      Aleksey_K 25 October 2014 22: 43
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      In Kharkov, there are also many enterprises for the military-industrial complex. And the Odessa region - the entire Black Sea will be under our control and access to Transnistria.
      1. Cristall
        Cristall 26 October 2014 16: 57
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        Quote: Алексей_К
        In Kharkov, there are also many enterprises for the military-industrial complex. And the Odessa region - the entire Black Sea will be under our control and access to Transnistria.

        Yeah .. only in Kharkov and Odessa, the idea of ​​the militia has completely lost its popularity. As soon as they began to fully lie like their counterparts - everything .. even understanding for them disappeared .. Same bananas, only the prices are high .. No one wants their cities such "freedom" ..
        But Kharkov and Mariupol are definitely under tight control and defense. I am silent about Odessa - here the whole district did not budge, only to strengthen. Kiev understands the value of these cities.
        Threat the theme name was fixed .. but somehow it was wrongly slapped ..
  30. NETiDA
    NETiDA 26 October 2014 04: 28
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    Tsarev was well settled, the office was warm in Moscow, he bought a new telephone, bought a new telephone, appointed himself to the post, and let others fight. Ache, you did not get an office in Donbas or in Lugansk Kolomoisky litter?
  31. kuz363
    kuz363 26 October 2014 13: 34
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    And who guarantees that after 5-10 years, the inhabitants of Novorossia will not vote for joining Ukraine, taking a sip of Russian life? If the US and the EU were smarter, then they could let all the regions of New Russia go, and not just Donetsk and Lugansk into free swimming, giving complete independence. They themselves would calmly take the rest of Ukraine, under which it is easier to take loans, and people loyal to the west, no one will fight. Would join the EU and NATO over time. They would have solid advantages in world politics. And Russia would have had solid problems in its economic situation. If you do not accept Russia, then you need to finance the restoration of New Russia, and the old energy-intensive industry. To provide humanitarian aid, but easier to feed. Other countries will not give money unequivocally. Question - where to get finances? From the budget of Russia? Not enough for ourselves. If you take - the same thing, only much more expensive. We will have to additionally bring salaries, pensions and other things to the level of Russia. Like the Crimea. True, the difference in the number of population and the volume of industry of Little Russia is not comparable with the Crimea. . Accordingly, the costs of Russia will be greater. This would apparently lead to the collapse of the Russian economy - which is what the United States needs.
  32. smith7
    smith7 26 October 2014 17: 20
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    Gentlemen, sofa generals! I'm embarrassed to ask, do you already know the results of the next US president? I am amazed at the "awareness" of the participants in the discussion! From their sofas, in reality, "you can see through everything." You can't see shit from my couch - it's true. One can only assume something, no more. I am not a Delphic oracle and I do not want to pretend to be a know-it-all, which is what I wish for everyone! Project "Novorossiya" is a dark matter, political alignments are very delicate. Forecasts can only be based on relevant, reliable intelligence information. I will modestly assume that the political situation inside Novorossiya will present Russian patriots with quite a few surprises and, I feel, unpleasant ones. There is nothing more to guess. We don't know the full story. Power sharing is a very messy process.
  33. Prager
    Prager 27 October 2014 15: 05
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    May the elections in Novorossia be successful and without provocations of dill! Live, New Russia, a young country!