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Ukraine will undertake to modernize and equip the fleet with new weapons

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Ukraine intends to modernize the fleet and equip it with modern weapons. The cost of this is in the state defense order for 2015. RIA News with reference to the site of the head of state.



"Today there are developments on the modernization of ships, equipping them with high-precision weapons, new electronic warfare means that will make these ships more efficient ... Now enough funds are allocated in the state defense order for modernization fleet»- leads the glory of the President of Ukraine press service

Poroshenko also noted that for the country "now the modernization of ships has become more appropriate and effective than the construction of new ships."

Earlier, the Ukrainian president said that "the state will increase support for the defense complex and the army." In his words, "the state has transferred the economy to a war footing."

Ukraine will undertake to modernize and equip the fleet with new weapons
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  1. fzr1000
    fzr1000 24 October 2014 12: 04
    +40
    Three wise men in one basin
    Set sail on a thunderstorm.
    Be stronger
    The old basin ...
    Would be longer
    My story.
    1. herruvim
      herruvim 24 October 2014 12: 07
      +15
      Yeah, that means there is loot, then return for gas money
      1. Wedmak
        Wedmak 24 October 2014 12: 09
        +6
        There is loot, but ... it’s already there, from where it is sooo difficult to get it.
      2. Zeus
        Zeus 24 October 2014 12: 09
        +7
        Like rocket science, it's just populism before the election!
        1. DRA-88
          DRA-88 24 October 2014 12: 20
          +17
          Newest Ocean Fleet
          1. Serg 122
            Serg 122 24 October 2014 13: 16
            +1
            Newest Ocean Fleet

            63 airborne ... Did they put a kokla on the Missouri?
            1. DRA-88
              DRA-88 24 October 2014 13: 18
              +1
              Quote: Serg 122
              63 airborne ... Did they put a kokla on the Missouri?

              Sponsorship laughing
      3. father nikon
        father nikon 24 October 2014 12: 12
        +5
        Yes, they don’t have ... no fig, no money, no shame, no honor and no conscience! And these are all empty words once again hi
      4. Pervusha Isaev
        Pervusha Isaev 24 October 2014 12: 26
        +1
        Quote: herruvim
        Yeah, that means there is loot, then return for gas money



        no, where would they come from? because the thieves team is at the helm of this pseudo-state, and during the non-fall time of Ukraine it produced almost nothing from the waterfowl, the Nikolaev shipbuilding itself needs to make a massive infusion, otherwise it is dangerous to produce 1000 tons on rusty stocks, in addition, the Sevastopol and Feodosia enterprises will work for Russia ...
    2. Hellraiser
      Hellraiser 24 October 2014 12: 09
      +2
      Where is the fleet from? Or is it the trough they almost drowned not so long ago! lol
      1. Viktor Kudinov
        Viktor Kudinov 24 October 2014 12: 14
        +1
        And what about the only submarine in the steppes of Ukraine?
        1. Ratmir
          Ratmir 24 October 2014 12: 18
          +10
          I think this is more than possible in today's Ukraine)))
        2. Wedmak
          Wedmak 24 October 2014 12: 19
          +1
          Looking for the Belarusian coast. He wants to go to sea.
        3. vdtomsk
          vdtomsk 24 October 2014 12: 48
          +2
          Hands off Zaporozhye! She stayed in the Crimea and they will make a museum out of her! I ask you to take care of the museum property!
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        5. askort154
          askort154 24 October 2014 12: 48
          +1
          Victor Kudinov ...... And what about the only submarine in the steppes of Ukraine.


          According to hohloplanov, after the construction of the fence, they will begin to expand and deepen the Dnieper for the passage of aircraft carriers, which will be built immediately after the implementation of the previous hohloplan:
          - the return of the Crimea,
          - rearmament of the Armed Forces,
          - make Ukraine a space power,
          - establish the launch of cruise missiles,
          - update the fleet,
          - join NATU, etc.
          All this will be done until 26.10.2014/XNUMX/XNUMX!
          Only one point was missed - regular visits to the psychiatrist by the first persons of the state.
        6. ermolai
          ermolai 24 October 2014 15: 20
          +1
          went to Illovaysk with a call to Donetsk airport
        7. zennon
          zennon 24 October 2014 18: 46
          0
          Quote: Victor Kudinov
          And what about the only submarine in the steppes of Ukraine?

          Is this the very first in the world? Well, which did they invent?
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      3. Drednout
        Drednout 24 October 2014 12: 18
        +7
        And the modernization will consist of pasting with UA stickers on all sides and replacing the AK-630 and AK-176 with saloons of our own design. Plus, of course, scalding the sides with armor beds from "evil Chechen terrorists."
        1. Good cat
          Good cat 24 October 2014 12: 26
          +2
          "decorating the sides with armor beds from" evil Chechen terrorists "


          This is 100%!
        2. Alexey RA
          Alexey RA 24 October 2014 13: 28
          +4
          Quote: Drednout
          Plus, of course, scalding the sides with armor beds from "evil Chechen terrorists."

          And weighing with counter-mattresses.
    3. Cosmos1987
      Cosmos1987 24 October 2014 12: 12
      +9
      Ukraine CE Europe-DAAAAAAAAAAA!
      Ukraine is the strongest state-DAAAAAAAAAAA!
      Ukraine will win the war with Russia-DAAAAAAAAAAA!
      Ukraine is a democratic country-DAAAAAAAAAAA!
      The oligarchs care about the life of Ukrainian citizens-DAAAAAAAAAAA!
      America wants Ukraine to live richly-DAAAAAAAAAAA!
      Shooting their citizens with guns is good-DAAAAAAAAAAA!
      You Ukrainians debil if you think this is for the truth-DAAAAAAAAAAA!
    4. Drednout
      Drednout 24 October 2014 12: 13
      +1
      The Soviet PSKR in the picture is the youngest, apparently for their entire fleet. And it's much more appropriate and efficient to modernize it than to build a new one! That's it! Well, already there is no strength to listen to nonsense.
      1. zennon
        zennon 24 October 2014 18: 49
        0
        Quote: Drednout
        Well, there’s already no strength to listen to nonsense.

        I’m ashamed of you! There are as many as 14 admirals in Ukraine. They know better what is nonsense and what is not.
    5. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 24 October 2014 12: 13
      +10
      such an inscription is more consistent ...
      1. Number 17
        Number 17 24 October 2014 12: 34
        +3
        Your humor cast a spell. But still, the ship is registered and bears the name of the Hero of the USSR. It's a shame that he will now serve those with whom he must fight on the basis of his name. And for me, he will forever remain a bijuha 50 on whom he wanted to serve but there was only the opportunity to see from the border tower at Cape Fiolent and receive messages on the radio station. Youth and the best years.
        1. Sailor
          Sailor 24 October 2014 13: 45
          +1
          I agree with you, it’s not even humor, it’s sarcasm, the fleet is not the army, it is much more expensive, if they give money to Ukraine by a geyropoy, then of course some rearmament is possible. They will buy a small amount for the ground forces and upgrade several units for the Navy, but this if they give money.
      2. Aleksys2
        Aleksys2 24 October 2014 15: 55
        +1
        Quote: Andrey Yurievich
        such an inscription is more consistent ...

        And I like that ...
    6. Giant thought
      Giant thought 24 October 2014 13: 11
      0
      Well, the flag is in their hands, self-deceivers.
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    8. mamont5
      mamont5 24 October 2014 13: 12
      +2
      Quote: fzr1000
      Be stronger
      The old basin ...


      And they will upgrade it. An acrylic liner is inserted and ... floated.
  2. IAlex
    IAlex 24 October 2014 12: 07
    +1
    If there are no more useful directions for spending scarce funds, then it would be better to engage in the purchase of old ships in NATO than their own crooked-handed modernization of junk ...
  3. Abbra
    Abbra 24 October 2014 12: 08
    +1
    Here we are and zvizdets! Kayaks armed with precision weapons will break the naval pride of Russia. M.L.Ya., it's time to think ...
    1. Wedmak
      Wedmak 24 October 2014 12: 10
      +3
      Yeah, under the kayak we hang a torpedo and here ... we have a torpedo kayak! No one will guess!
  4. Wedmak
    Wedmak 24 October 2014 12: 08
    0
    Dreamers ... Strugatsky and Lem nervously smoke aside.
    1. zennon
      zennon 24 October 2014 18: 55
      +1
      Quote: Wedmak
      Dreamers ... Strugatsky and Lem nervously smoke aside.

      Yes, God bless them. The head of the department of neuropsychiatric care of the People's Commissariat of the RSFSR Peter Petrovich Kashchenko went there to smoke ...
  5. sanja.grw
    sanja.grw 24 October 2014 12: 08
    +14
    Ukraine will undertake to modernize and equip the fleet with new weapons

    And it will be based on the border with Belarus
  6. grog_bm
    grog_bm 24 October 2014 12: 09
    0
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbMilWT-U78#t=118
  7. sever.56
    sever.56 24 October 2014 12: 09
    +9
    http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2014/122/bjra761.jpg
  8. Enot_33
    Enot_33 24 October 2014 12: 09
    0
    What do they have left of the fleet?
    1. Wedmak
      Wedmak 24 October 2014 12: 12
      +2
      A pair of watchdogs and a submarine. And the submarine is hiding in the steppes. For a sudden attack of the Rostov mountains.
  9. ded100
    ded100 24 October 2014 12: 10
    +4
    Upgrade your famous submarine first wassatWill be the flagship laughing
    1. GUS
      GUS 24 October 2014 12: 48
      +1
      They already have a semi-submarine flagship called Priluki.
  10. Bor
    Bor 24 October 2014 12: 11
    +1
    Let them start with the submarine fleet! Submarine "Zaporozhets" must be equipped with eared missiles)))
  11. Dry_T-50
    Dry_T-50 24 October 2014 12: 11
    0
    Do we have a fleet? Everything seems to be left in Crimea
    A country like Ukraine does not need a fleet. As well as aviation with satellites and "Sapsan"
  12. Abbra
    Abbra 24 October 2014 12: 12
    0
    Ukraine has seas. Till.
  13. Drmadfisher
    Drmadfisher 24 October 2014 12: 12
    +2
    damn, mobilize all motor boats laughing
    1. Serg 122
      Serg 122 24 October 2014 18: 20
      0
      Raft is enough! laughing
  14. Starover_Z
    Starover_Z 24 October 2014 12: 13
    0
    Did you decide to build a modern fleet for candy income? Well, well ... Wait, sir.
  15. Bezarius
    Bezarius 24 October 2014 12: 14
    +1
    "if you want to ruin a small country, give it a cruiser" (c) Winston Churchill
    The Ukrainians decided to go further and modernize their fleet.
    1. shtch
      shtch 24 October 2014 12: 22
      0
      There is an offer - "push" ukram expensively boxes of Mistrals, let them torment and spend laughing
    2. 102030dvs
      102030dvs 24 October 2014 12: 31
      +1
      "The economy was put on a war footing!"
      Where such lessons are still allowed to lead the country.
      He only with this frightened (Yatsenyuk) monument of idiocy to build - (wall).
  16. sever.56
    sever.56 24 October 2014 12: 15
    +2
    Quote: ded100
    Upgrade your famous submarine first wassatWill be the flagship laughing

    Put on it the latest carbon fiber oars!
  17. Roman 1977
    Roman 1977 24 October 2014 12: 16
    +12
    Well, we all have a fox ...
    Fleet Composition Ruins currently:
    The flagship of the fleet-SKR pr. 11351 "Nerei" "Getman Sagaidachny", a former Soviet border patrol ship, was built as "Kirov", transferred to the Naval Forces of Ukraine in 1992. It was and is the largest ship in the fleet. (full displacement of 3642 tons). It is not of great combat value due to its rather weak weaponry: there is no anti-ship missile system; 1 launcher of the OSA-MA air defense missile system (20 missiles), although carried by a KA-27PS helicopter. That is, to make it clearer, the "Saigak Dachny" will survive, exactly as long as it is necessary to detect it and release the RCA missiles pr. 12411 (4 anti-ship missiles "Moskit", on the ChF-4), MRK pr. 12341 (6 P-120 , on the Black Sea Fleet-2) or MRK pr. 1239 (8 Mosquito missiles, on the Black Sea Fleet-2). As an anti-submarine, it is inferior to the SKR pr.1135 with their PLURK "Rastrub-B" with a firing range of 55 km. Recently it was used as a "flag demonstration", during the Crimean epic he returned from the Gulf of Aden, where he chased the "brothers in mind" - the Somali pirates, and therefore escaped capture. After that I did not get up for repairs, i.e. his condition is far from ideal.

    The missile boat pr. 206MR "Priluki" tail number - U153 (former "R-262") is the ONLY strike ship of the Navy Ruins. He almost drowned (unfortunately not) on August 24 at the naval "parade" in Odessa in front of PARAShenko.

    Laid down on 30.11.1979/12.12.1980/296, commissioned on 41/30.12.1995/2. The boat was part of the 15th missile boat division of the 50st missile boat brigade of the Black Sea Fleet. After the collapse of the USSR, on December 1, 76,2, it was transferred from the Black Sea Fleet to the Naval Forces of Ukraine. Armed with 176 anti-ship missiles P-1M "Termit", developed in the mid-6s of the XX century, 30 630-mm AK-16, 3xXNUMX XNUMX-mm AK-XNUMX, XNUMX MANPADS Strela-XNUMX.
    20.03.2014/11.04.2014/15, the Ukrainian Navy flag was lowered on the ship, and the Russian Navy flag was raised. 1135/1234/1239 ukram returned. Theoretically, it can cause some trouble: "Moscow" of course "Fort" will hit its P-1987M, and "Grigorovich" will beat it off, but the rest may have certain difficulties. No, theoretically, "OSA-MA" on the TFR pr.XNUMX, MRK pr.XNUMX and XNUMX can shoot down anti-ship missiles, but the only attempt to do this ended in the death of the MRK "Monsoon" in XNUMX during exercises at the Pacific Fleet.
    1. Roman 1977
      Roman 1977 24 October 2014 12: 18
      +3
      Medium landing ship "Kirovograd" (formerly "SDK-137"). Laid down on 21.04.1970 at the Gdansk Severnaya Verf, Poland, according to project 773. Launched on 31.12.1970, commissioned on 31.05.1971. Carrying capacity: 6 units of armored vehicles (up to 35 tons) and 180 paratroopers, or 240 tons of cargo. The ship is really combat: in the fall of 1973, the ship, as part of the Mediterranean squadron, with a Marine Corps unit on board, was in the zone of the armed conflict between Israel and Egypt (from October 01-31, 1973). In one of the Israeli air raids on October 16, the KFOR-137 gunner, Chief Petty Officer P. Grinev, timely spotted the Israeli Phantom, which was entering a combat course to strike the ship, opened fire from an AK-1 gun mount and shot down the plane. For this he was awarded the Order of the Red Star. According to the section of the Black Sea Fleet, from October 230, it moved to Ukraine, the tail number is U1994. 401.21.03.2014/19.04.2014/XNUMX, the flag of the Ukrainian Navy was lowered on the ship, and the flag of the Russian Navy was raised. XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX ukram was returned.

      Project 1258E raid minesweeper "Genichesk", tail number "U360" (formerly "RT-214"). Armament: 1x2 25-mm gun 2M-3M, 2 launchers MTU-4 MANPADS, 12 depth charges, sweeping armament. It entered service on 10.07.1985, 27.03.1996 was included in the Navy. On March 24.03.2014, 20.05.2014, the flag of the Ukrainian Navy was lowered on the ship, and the flag of the Russian Navy was raised. XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX ukram was returned.

      Artillery boat "Skadovsk" of project 1400M "Grif", hull number U170 (former "AK-327"). Armament: 1x2 12,7 mm "Cliff-2M". It was built in 1990, was part of the 17th separate special forces brigade of the Navy (military unit 34391), based on Ochakov, on April 15.04.1992, XNUMX was included in the Navy, At the time of the Crimean events, it was based in Odessa, so it avoided capture.
      1. Roman 1977
        Roman 1977 24 October 2014 12: 20
        +6
        In order to at least somehow increase the number of combat units, the Ukrainians mounted a 376-mm 25M-2M cannon on two project P3 Yaroslavets raid boats and proudly called them "artillery boats" (well, not yet cruisers). Board numbers AK-01 and AK-02.

        appearance ukro- "dreadnought"
        Well, that's the entire list of warships of the Ukrainian Navy, however, in addition to this floating trash, the ukrovs also have outright scrap metal - the corvette "Vinnitsa" pr. 1124P (formerly "Dnepr"), transferred to the MPChV in 1976 a separate Balaklava brigade of border patrol ships, in January 5 transferred to the Naval Forces of Ukraine. 1996 during a storm in the Sevastopol Bay, the ship received damage to the stem and skin of the left side, after which it got up for repair. which lasted until 11.11.2007, until at the end of March 2014 the flag of the Ukrainian Navy was lowered on the ship and the flag of the Russian Navy was raised.
        We did not need this rarity, especially not in running condition, and 19.04.2014 was returned to Ukram. Currently continues to rot in Odessa.
        I will not describe the auxiliary fleet of Ruins, I only note that it consists of 90 percent of that scrap metal, which was cheaper to give to the Ukrainians so that they would suffer with it than disposed of in Crimea.

        As for the submarines, it seems that this is the only thing that shines the protoucram in the near future ...
        1. pahom54
          pahom54 24 October 2014 12: 41
          +1
          for Roman 1977

          Thanks for the review, timely and interesting.
          It could have been sent to PorosSnko, for deep reflection ... With a note: Where to get the money, Sing?
        2. surovts.valery
          surovts.valery 24 October 2014 15: 57
          0
          Here I am about the same as he is going to place and what "precision weapons" on the trash you listed. The parashka rides on the Square and hangs noodles on everyone's ears ("on earrings for all sisters").
      2. KBR109
        KBR109 24 October 2014 13: 40
        0
        I beg your pardon for my illiteracy, but where is the actual artillery on the Skadovsk artillery boat?
    2. valentina-makanalina
      valentina-makanalina 24 October 2014 12: 51
      0
      This is not just a missile boat, but also a submarine.
  18. VikVik741
    VikVik741 24 October 2014 12: 16
    +1
    Nothing, they will also put a nuclear reactor at Zaporozhye. fellow
  19. Nychego
    Nychego 24 October 2014 12: 16
    +1
    Well Duc election. They all promise everything - the modernization of the fleet, it’s a bucket of oil for the souls of Khokhloremans and Nikolaev shipbuilders and manufacturers of weapons systems.
    Elections will pass - everything will be forgotten. Apparently Ukrainians will not be up to champagne with diseased kidneys.
  20. askort154
    askort154 24 October 2014 12: 18
    +1
    On the side inscription of the boat in the second word is an error - the letter P was not written.
  21. Viktor Kudinov
    Viktor Kudinov 24 October 2014 12: 19
    +1
    If the modernization of the fleet will be released in the same vein as on the arrangement of the border ditch with Russia, then we will laugh more than once at this! laughing
  22. corbeen
    corbeen 24 October 2014 12: 20
    +4
    “Today there are achievements on the modernization of ships, equipping them with high-precision weapons, new electronic warfare means that will make these ships more efficient ...

    Let the galleys build:
    a) Radially invisible ...
    b) Everything in action ...
    c) they will stink, sho mama do not grieve ...
  23. Wolka
    Wolka 24 October 2014 12: 26
    +2
    all this is on the verge of fonds ...
  24. Number 17
    Number 17 24 October 2014 12: 27
    +3
    Ukrainians! Return pskr bg 50 Grigory Kuropyatnikov to Balaklava. Where they got there and return. The Hero of the USSR Kuropyatnikoa had completely different views. He and Bandera are not involved. By the way, I asked the military registration and enlistment office to go through an urgent part of the mchv and asked for bg 50. But they threw me at 7pz to them Hero of the USSR Rubtsov. I just can not understand the logic of ukrov. They despise everything Soviet, but they use the attributes of the USSR in their sun. From the vest to the blue beret of the Airborne Forces and registered border boats.
  25. crambol
    crambol 24 October 2014 12: 31
    +2
    Ukraine will undertake to modernize and equip the fleet with new weapons


    Would take better for their ... a. All the same, they will not be needed after frosts.


  26. Iskander 090
    Iskander 090 24 October 2014 12: 31
    +1
    they pledged money for all projects, now all of Europe will work for Ukraine.
  27. Michael_59
    Michael_59 24 October 2014 12: 32
    +2
    They have got some work ... For a thousand years to come, we have earned sins for sins ...
  28. pahom54
    pahom54 24 October 2014 12: 32
    +1
    ""the state transferred the economy to war footing"" ...

    Lord, what would it be worth translating ... Piglet that, until now, did not understand that the economy of his country had grunted for a long time ???
  29. Turbo rabbit
    Turbo rabbit 24 October 2014 12: 33
    +4
    Quote: Novel 1977
    Artillery boat "Skadovsk"

    Stalker, come back again. Our "Skadovsk" is always in place. Will not float away.
  30. ODERVIT
    ODERVIT 24 October 2014 12: 36
    +2
    Thor to become one of the great space powers, then the construction of new nuclear power plants, the army of a new type, the revival of the fleet ....... And before the election, nothing at all, while the treasury is empty, everyone is in debt, but are puffing from the latter.
  31. aszzz888
    aszzz888 24 October 2014 12: 36
    +2
    What dill will not take, all the same, it obviously turns out.
  32. SmolNik
    SmolNik 24 October 2014 12: 37
    0
    no comments yet.
  33. GUS
    GUS 24 October 2014 12: 42
    +1
    ... Now in the state defense order, sufficient funds are allocated for the modernization of the fleet ...


    These funds are mastered quite quickly and in full. Parasus just won’t say so, I think the Komflot will now unfasten more.
  34. Mama_Cholli
    Mama_Cholli 24 October 2014 12: 47
    0
    Soon there will be no sea, and they all care about the fleet ...
    Pisi: Although this can probably be considered a concern for the protection of the sea borders of the future young Republic of Novorosia. )))
  35. vdtomsk
    vdtomsk 24 October 2014 12: 54
    +2
    Yesterday Ukraine regained its status as a space power (according to PARAShenko), today it returns a maritime super-status! Developments are already there:
  36. aszzz888
    aszzz888 24 October 2014 13: 06
    0
    The latest in nanotechnology dill. Bottles of moonshine tied in a pile, and there will be another destroyer.
  37. sgr291158
    sgr291158 24 October 2014 13: 21
    0
    With a bare ass but on a boat
  38. brdnxela
    brdnxela 24 October 2014 13: 27
    0
    God robbed their mind
  39. Wolka
    Wolka 24 October 2014 13: 29
    0
    in general, if they survive before the winter, and it may happen, by and large, that the fleet will not be needed, there will be no access to the sea and that’s it ... walk Vasya ...
  40. nablydatel
    nablydatel 24 October 2014 13: 31
    0
    lard is the only product for dill diesel engines
    but again, how will you eat if all the fat goes to the needs of the ATO
    AND BLOCKING Lard on Salyarka THE BLOOD DOESN'T HAVE BOLD hi
  41. chunga-changa
    chunga-changa 24 October 2014 14: 03
    0
    "Lenkuznya", where they made "armored boats" for river flotillas, belongs to Parashenko, I think most of the money will be laundered through it. Shipbuilding is such a tricky area where a lot of money can be invested over the years, and as a result there is only one unfinished section of the corvette type. And there is nothing to show, because they are building, well, they haven’t built it yet, so the money was given "irregularly", it’s not for you to rivet tanks a day.
  42. Temer
    Temer 24 October 2014 14: 11
    0
    And did they have something behind the fleet? 0_o
  43. Vtel
    Vtel 24 October 2014 14: 23
    0
    - And do you happen to dill?
    - What is it? No, I'm Russian.
    “We had one Russian here, Chan.” But it turned out ... →

    - The crew! Urgent immersion!
    - And where is our boat?
    - And we are without a boat!


    The only thing they need for a faq is a fleet, Schaub in time to sail to an independent America - sooner will be considerable.
  44. Gray 43
    Gray 43 24 October 2014 14: 30
    0
    The fleet of Ukraine? Is he there ??? And I thought he was like a gopher - few people saw him, but he exists
  45. 3vs
    3vs 24 October 2014 14: 36
    0
    Pay for gas, and then build yourself what you want!
  46. kelevra
    kelevra 24 October 2014 15: 58
    0
    Eeee, dill, and where is your fleet ??? It only exists on paper !!!!!! The usual pattern of money laundering and theft!
  47. lazy
    lazy 24 October 2014 16: 06
    0
    I put an article plus - I made fun wink
  48. Prager
    Prager 24 October 2014 17: 03
    0
    good article, funny. soon in Kherson or Zaporozhye steppes will begin to build submarines. laughing
  49. another RUSICH
    another RUSICH 24 October 2014 19: 24
    0
    To rearm the fleet, Ukraine needs to build it)))
  50. Velesovich
    Velesovich 24 October 2014 20: 32
    0
    They would first build a new base for the fleet. And then they began to build a fleet. Although ... Something tells me that Ukraine itself in the very near future will lose access to the sea.