Poroshenko promised to provide the plant to them. Malysheva orders for armored vehicles

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Petro Poroshenko during a trip to the Kharkiv region visited the state enterprise "Plant named after Malyshev", which produces modern armored vehicles, and promised to increase the state order, reports RIA News Ukraine.



The presidential press service said that "Poroshenko examined the production capacity of the plant and samples of its products - the most modern tank Oplot, modernized BTR-E and BTR-4 MB and other types of armored vehicles."

Then, the Ukrainian president held a production meeting at which "the plant’s management presented schedules for the repair and production of new machines, and shared the production needs of the plant." In addition, "issues of investment for the development of new models and the opening of additional orders" were discussed, according to a press release.

It is reported that in his speech to the staff Poroshenko "especially thanked the enterprise team for the decision to move to a three-shift work schedule, which allowed an increase in production."

“Now the whole country is helping the military, but volunteers cannot bring Tanks and armored personnel carrier, thanks for your team spirit "- quotes the press service of the head of state.

He noted that “the equipment produced by the Malyshev plant is the most modern type of armored vehicle. weapons in the world". According to him, the number of orders will grow and “as early as next month the plant will produce a record number of products.”

According to the report, now the company "produces tanks BM Oplot, conducts a major overhaul of T-64 tanks and reconditioning tanks BM Bulat". In addition, the plant is mastering the production of Dozor-B machines.

























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  1. +28
    14 October 2014 15: 59
    I would very much like Kharkov to become Russian again as part of New Russia !!!
    1. +8
      14 October 2014 16: 10
      Poroshenko He pledged

      This word immediately casts doubt on everything conceived. As Porosyonkov can promise, we know .., he also promised the world in the Donbass 100 times, the result is obvious.
      1. +1
        14 October 2014 16: 13
        And who knows, Russian components are available on their equipment, or do they have a full cycle?
        1. +5
          14 October 2014 16: 33
          So it’s all Russian, only redone, like the Chinese Kalash. They give up everything Russian, even products, and do not disdain anything with tanks and armored personnel carriers. Unprincipled people.
          1. avg
            +3
            14 October 2014 17: 13
            But at least furnish the dill warrior with tanks there will be no sense. Constant whining for non-payment of money, lack of equipment, tactics, fat, wrong leadership for them starting from whom. branches and to the minister, this is the topic of daily media complaints ukrovoyak. And he fart, and that really can not.
          2. +1
            14 October 2014 17: 15
            I'm a little about that. How complete will these products be without the Russian military-industrial complex?
            1. 0
              14 October 2014 18: 05
              What can I say, they "give birth" to a new tank for nine months! At least in three shifts, at least in all four ...
            2. +4
              14 October 2014 18: 22
              Quote: Buran
              I'm a little about that. How complete will these products be without the Russian military-industrial complex?

              after an attempt to disrupt the Pakistani contract, tanks are released without the participation of the rpk rf
              1. +4
                14 October 2014 18: 29
                Quote: Kars
                after an attempt to disrupt the Pakistani contract, tanks are released without the participation of the rpk rf

                I will not ask what a former businessman can understand from the explanation of the retinue of details of tank systems and mechanisms ...
                I will ask something else - "What is necessary for the Malyshev plant to be able to smoothly produce competitive and combat-ready equipment in the optimal mode? What, apart from promises, should Malyshev workers be given?"
                1. +3
                  14 October 2014 19: 19
                  Quote: stalkerwalker
                  What, besides promises, should be given to the kids?

                  They need money (well, orders), and leadership that does not plunder them.
                  There are no special problems with components, or at least there wasn’t, I am not aware of those chains and what kind of allies were from Lugansk and Donetsk.
                  I am also not completely up to date with the mood of the team, as there were rumors about, well, not about sabotage, but about reluctant and not quite high-quality work.
                  1. +3
                    14 October 2014 19: 27
                    Quote: Kars
                    They need money (well, orders), and leadership that does not plunder them.

                    It’s clear ....
                    Thank you.
                    hi
              2. +1
                14 October 2014 19: 19
                Quote: Kars
                Quote: Buran
                I'm a little about that. How complete will these products be without the Russian military-industrial complex?

                after an attempt to disrupt the Pakistani contract, tanks are released without the participation of the rpk rf

                And how much can the plant really produce tanks now?
                After all, after the National Guard took all the BTR-4E, the plant stood in line for bankruptcy, and now what real money has gone?
              3. 0
                15 October 2014 04: 35
                Quote: Kars
                after an attempt to disrupt the Pakistani contract, tanks are released without the participation of the rpk rf
                MYTH, as well as the fact that Ukraine is able to do without Russian gas this winter ... At the plant named after Malysheva, especially for the production of engines received many components from Russia. Moreover, very important components and assemblies came from the Crimea, in particular for the production of rangefinders for tank sights. Much has also come from Donetsk and Lugansk, shells to TP, for example. Guess twice - will they arrive now?
                1. +1
                  15 October 2014 13: 16
                  Quote: svp67
                  MYTH, like

                  How was Ukraine able to fulfill the Pakistani contract?
                  Quote: svp67
                  from Crimea

                  I didn’t take into account the Crimea. And the Crimean parts can be replaced with western components. Kiev.
                  Quote: svp67
                  Guess twice - will they do now?
                  And who knows how demarcation lines will fall. And ammunition can be bought in Romania.

                  The tanks would have made a wish and money, but something considered a myth is not good.
                  Quote: svp67
                  Full of. They can

                  It’s interesting what it is? If even for the T-72 there’s an almost complete range of spare parts, and the armored vehicles from the Russian Federation began as early as the 1998 of the year.
                  1. 0
                    6 November 2014 19: 48
                    Quote: Kars
                    How was Ukraine able to fulfill the Pakistani contract?

                    Kars, well, no need to talk about the PAST ... The "Pakistani contract" is already perceived as "legends of deep antiquity", and then (in the old wink ) at least the state of the economy and the financial sector were slightly different ...
          3. 0
            15 October 2014 04: 32
            Quote from comprochikos
            So it’s all Russian,
            Rather, the Soviet ... almost everything.
        2. 0
          15 October 2014 04: 32
          Quote: Buran
          And who knows, Russian components are available on their equipment, or do they have a full cycle?
          Full of. They can replace, of course, but the volumes are smaller and the quality is often even worse ...
    2. +6
      14 October 2014 16: 14
      And what about Ukrainian dill? The Khazar emblem, the Petlyurovsky flag, the fascist swastika, money from the IMF. In general, it turns out that the IMF gives this money for war and weapons, where does the money come from dill itself !?
      1. +3
        14 October 2014 16: 53
        And everything else from the USSR and Russia
    3. +3
      14 October 2014 16: 15
      Poroshenko's optimism is inspired by the thought: is he healthy?
      1. +7
        14 October 2014 16: 22
        Quote: Giant thought
        Poroshenko's optimism is inspired by the thought: is he healthy?

        He thinks that healthy, because he is constantly succumbing. And the whole country is dill, as if under the influence of drugs, despite the fact that - heavy.
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      3. mazhnikof.Niko
        0
        14 October 2014 17: 20
        Quote: Thought Giant
        Poroshenko's optimism is inspired by the thought: is he healthy?


        In, while still reading the headline in my head, the thought settled: - Good God, he’s a u.r.a.k ...

        Well, just think of it - the country is in ruin, and the president is raving with tanks!

        Verily, if the Lord wants to punish - it will deprive REASON!

        Now, truly sorry for Ukraine!
        1. +1
          14 October 2014 18: 41
          Quote: mazhnikof.Niko
          Well, just think of it - the country is in ruin, and the president is raving with tanks!

          Providing orders is one thing. Another thing is where the money is, Zin. I would start a conversation with the second question in the place of these Kharkiv zhizovs.
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    6. Stalker
      +2
      14 October 2014 17: 26
      I would very much like Kharkov to become Russian again as part of New Russia !!!


      So it will be !!!



      Yellow-blue roosters released to Shevchenko monument

      On the morning of Tuesday, October 14, at the monument to Taras Shevchenko in Odessa, a kind of flash mob took place - a company of youth released a few roosters painted in yellow and blue colors for a walk.
      This was reported by an OTKAT correspondent who witnessed a flash mob.
      The organizers of the flash mob did not make any statements, the rally was held in silence, not counting the clucking of yellow-blue roosters running around the monument to Kobzar. Later they reported that this action meant "UPA March through the eyes of a normal Odessa citizen." On painted hens and roosters yellow-blue ribbons and red-black flags, the colors of the flag of the Ukrainian Insurgent Army, were tied. laughing lol good
      1. +2
        14 October 2014 17: 36
        laughing Nice rally
        "this action meant" March of the UPA through the eyes of a normal Odessa citizen ""
  2. +7
    14 October 2014 16: 01
    And they will again collect money for this equipment by SMS, or they will sell the gas transmission pipe in the second round.
    1. +3
      14 October 2014 16: 04
      He promised to provide orders, not money and advances. The businessman is =)
      1. +1
        14 October 2014 16: 28
        No, the Kiev authorities promised, as it became known, not the money itself, but guarantees. That is, they have equated themselves, their financial capabilities in European and American. Only these guarantees, apart from empty promises, are not a penny. The treasury is empty, the economy is spinning into recession. There are no naive hoxlots (thieves!), They lived and live according to the principle "money in the morning, chairs in the evening, money in the evening, chairs in the morning". Vaughn received money from us for the development and production of the An-70, and on this silence, the contract was terminated, and the payment of the penalty hangs in the clouds, however, as well as for other projects, including gas.
    2. +1
      14 October 2014 16: 48
      Quote: Stanislav 1978
      money for this technique will be collected by SMS again

      So I think a promise is one thing. And the money to pay for both metal and labor, not to mention the fact that electricity is consumed inappropriately, water and other things? quite a different matter. Where is the money, citizen president?
      In Germany, one prostitute demanded the closure of nuclear power plants, and in return for the unfinished electricity, she promised to give her income to the state. But, deceived. So it will be in Ukraine.
      Well what are you, what are you. Can I compare the President with a prostitute. But both this and this promise !!!
      1. 0
        14 October 2014 22: 37
        [/ Quote]
        So I think a promise is one thing. And the money to pay for both metal and labor, not to mention the fact that electricity is consumed inappropriately, water and other things? quite a different matter. Where is the money, citizen president?
        [/ Quote]

        What money, you pay attention to the expression on the face of Pedro.This is the theater of the absurd, Pedro pretends that he likes the tanks and will give the money in full, and the director of the plant pretends that this crap that the factory produces is the best in the world and these tin-screen body kit towers (clumsily made) 13 photo , reliable protection of the crew and pretends that he believes that the money will be paid to him. As the Malyshev factory went down in terms of production aesthetics. Judging by the photo under Oplot, the T-80 hulls and towers are used.And "Bulat" with 5 TDFM, in general, the director is lying, how he breathes, because in fact in the photo there is a usual 5Tdf-700 HP, instead of 850-5 TDFM (photos 10 and 18). In short, each other Padro and the director on ... are as they can.For cheap troops will receive tuned trash with old engines after kapitalki (photo 18) painted silver, well, thank God.This whole cheap body kit BMP-2 turn from a gun into a mess. All right, stupidity and stupidity are the main friends of the Ukrainian authorities.
  3. +5
    14 October 2014 16: 02
    Abnormal, he needs to think about winter, and not about military equipment.
    1. 0
      14 October 2014 16: 10
      Quote: Wend
      Abnormal, he needs to think about winter, and not about military equipment.


      He does not need to think about winter .... hi
      1. 0
        14 October 2014 16: 12
        Quote: Semen Semenych

        He does not need to think about winter .... hi

        Why?
        1. +1
          14 October 2014 17: 23
          Well, probably because his apartment is warm, light and does not bite flies wink
        2. 0
          15 October 2014 10: 36
          Quote: Semen Semenych

          He does not need to think about winter .... hi

          Why?
          Because winter is near
  4. +9
    14 October 2014 16: 02
    Here is the BT-7 tank in the photo. This is the legacy of the Soviet Union. Why haven't they demolished it yet? AND? Or else will they "get"?
    1. Verden
      +4
      14 October 2014 16: 08
      They didn’t manage the loss of Lenin’s monument, it’s better not to touch the BTshka, otherwise it will crush someone inadvertently.
      1. Spstas1
        +1
        14 October 2014 17: 06
        Interestingly, but Poroshenko was not upset that the plant he visited was named after the Stalinist People's Commissar, also known as "Prince Tankogradsky"?
    2. +2
      14 October 2014 16: 16
      Quote: Roman1970
      Here is the BT-7 tank in the photo. This is the legacy of the Soviet Union. Why haven't they demolished it yet? AND? Or else will they "get"?

      so after all the tank at the factory, and there pravoseki and svidomye do not go. I liked the inscription on the sautoment more. how did they show her to Poros - "the victory of the Soviet people over fascism" Or Poros still "we have no fascism". maybe he's right - it's not fascism on the Ruin, but outrageous Nazism.
      1. +3
        14 October 2014 16: 20
        This is how the plant was named after the "Stalinist People's Commissar". How can they at all? Where is their "Square" pride? We urgently need to demolish it. laughing
        1. Verden
          +3
          14 October 2014 16: 23
          It will be renamed into "Pan Geletey Armored Corps Plant". It will be symbolic. Although they have good bronekoyta.
  5. +4
    14 October 2014 16: 02
    Cynical statements against the backdrop of fratricidal war ...
  6. +6
    14 October 2014 16: 03
    It is a pity that a good factory will rivet armored vehicles for the Nazis. The workers are ready in three shifts, so long as they do not die of hunger. In dill, soon only at the defense plants will it be warm and light.
    1. +1
      14 October 2014 16: 14
      it will not rivet nichrome dill the president is easier to fart in a barrel than to perform
      1. +1
        14 October 2014 16: 27
        Quote: Panikovsky
        it will not rivet nichrome dill the president is easier to fart in a barrel than to perform

        Something is riveted. Tin!
        1. +1
          14 October 2014 16: 28
          Quote: 23 region
          Quote: Panikovsky
          it will not rivet nichrome dill the president is easier to fart in a barrel than to perform

          Something is riveted. Tin!
          1. +1
            14 October 2014 16: 37
            Goal for fiction is cunning. Tin in the literal sense.
          2. +2
            14 October 2014 16: 54
            Military garbage truck?
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            2. +1
              14 October 2014 18: 08
              Quote: Vladimirets
              Military garbage truck?

              thought so too.
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    2. Verden
      +4
      14 October 2014 16: 19
      As in any civil war: at first, 2-3 percent of the frostbitten population arrange a Maidan, and the rest sit silently. Then they connect the army, which at first reluctantly, and then enthusiastically fights against their own ...
      I can’t express my opinion without emotional epithets about the majority of the sane population of Ukraine and about the workers of the Malyshev plant in particular.
      It seems like normal men, whom one cannot fool with the slogans of law-abiding, but for the salary they are ready to rivet the murder weapons of their fellow citizens.
      You can at least strike a strike or stir up a strike, but no. although I’m sure that in the event of a suspension of the Malyshev plant, the Ukrogenstaff would have to greatly adjust its Napoleonic plans.
      1. +2
        14 October 2014 16: 31
        If there was a strike, we would just buy Polish-Romanian SECOND-HAND.
        1. Verden
          0
          14 October 2014 17: 05
          It would be at least not so disgusting. And the people would come to life: since a military regime enterprise is on strike, then we can.
      2. -1
        14 October 2014 17: 37
        Or maybe they specifically expect that all enta equipment will be in the army of New Russia after the first battles ?! bully
      3. +1
        14 October 2014 17: 44
        Strike)))) in the same place kakly svidomye work. The bombing of the plant is unambiguous. It is advisable in the morning during the shift change. Or to lay land mines at the checkpoints! So that everything was in blood and guts! Death, fierce death by filthy Khokh.lam !!!
      4. 0
        14 October 2014 17: 44
        Strike)))) in the same place kakly svidomye work. The bombing of the plant is unambiguous. It is advisable in the morning during the shift change. Or to lay land mines at the checkpoints! So that everything was in blood and guts! Death, fierce death by filthy Khokh.lam !!!
  7. +3
    14 October 2014 16: 05
    only a hundred and another trillions of hryvnias will be sealed and overwhelmed with orders by the entire Ukrainian industry.
  8. +2
    14 October 2014 16: 07
    it would be necessary .. so that the Voyentorg militia would send something modern anti-tank and not junk exploding (according to Kassad)
  9. +2
    14 October 2014 16: 08
    An interesting sight. In the shops 3,5 worker. smile The others hid chtol?
    1. +2
      14 October 2014 16: 55
      Quote: LiSSyara
      In the workshops 3,5 workers. The others hid chtol?

      Locked in the back room as unreliable.
  10. +2
    14 October 2014 16: 09
    ... Poroshenko promised to provide the plant to them. Malysheva orders for armored vehicles ...

    Did the order come from militias?
  11. +1
    14 October 2014 16: 11
    PARAShenko in his repertoire: promise he is a master! When dill is saturated with his lies. Anyway, it's cold on the street today ...
  12. +3
    14 October 2014 16: 12
    And this plant, after all, was also built during the "Russian occupation" of Nicholas II, developed under the "Soviet occupation" ...
    1. +2
      14 October 2014 16: 39
      It must be lustrated in order to be consistent in their policies. Ato is somehow not an order.
  13. 0
    14 October 2014 16: 13
    Can I buy a tank there for New Russia? As during the Second World War bought.
  14. 0
    14 October 2014 16: 14
    it’s interesting with cracks is still deplorable or they are still using the old backlog (old tank corps)
  15. +2
    14 October 2014 16: 15
    Well, Potroshenko may have promised a lot, but the fighters of Novorosiya will provide!)))
  16. 0
    14 October 2014 16: 16
    He promised a lot of things. Still would perform. Where is the money?
  17. +3
    14 October 2014 16: 17
    yeah Malyshev's legendary factory builds tanks for the Nazis. in three shifts. where is the world heading?
  18. Viktor Kudinov
    +2
    14 October 2014 16: 17
    feel Something is not visible in the photographs of the joy of Poroshenko’s face. It is as if sad at times. Despite the fact that he is shown a beautiful technique. With this - at least go to Washington and take it! And the hard workers in three shifts are ready to work for the sake of victory, but he does not jump for joy. Or ate wrong? what
  19. +1
    14 October 2014 16: 18
    blah blah again .. where did the money come from?
    1. +2
      14 October 2014 16: 43
      After all, they promised to provide with orders, but about the loot of the bazaar not-so-lo. stop
  20. 0
    14 October 2014 16: 19
    as they say, to promise does not mean to marry.
  21. +1
    14 October 2014 16: 20
    What else did it promise there? I’ll get a hryvnia on the day of the battle, compensation for the deceased, the atom will end in hours. Yes, tryn’t toss the bags, and, in fact, will the payer pay for the gas?
  22. Leonidych
    0
    14 October 2014 16: 21
    ringing no bags tossing and turning
  23. Alf
    +3
    14 October 2014 16: 22
    “Now the whole country is helping the military, but volunteers cannot bring tanks and armored personnel carriers, thanks for your team spirit,” the press service quotes the head of state.

    And where does the 3-shift work schedule for the PRODUCTION of new tanks and armored personnel carriers and the fact that volunteers can not bring broken tanks to the factory. Enter at least 3, at least 10 shift schedules, but if the logistics system is destroyed, then tanks will not appear at the plant.
    By the way, God forbid, if one of the ukropatriots remembers that the BT-7 tanks participated in the annexation of Western Ukraine in 1939. They will rip apart at the welded seams with shouts of "Get out!"
    By the way, something is not particularly visible in the pictures of workers, for example, several people in the workshop.
    Is this all the only true believers? No more typing?
    1. +2
      14 October 2014 16: 32
      Quote: Alf
      By the way, something is not particularly visible in the pictures of workers, so there are several people in the workshop. Is this all the only true believers? No more typing?

      The rest are unreliable, they can arrange an accident at work.
      1. +1
        14 October 2014 16: 42
        As for the quantity - I don’t know, but the age ... Young people aren’t visible, old people are collecting tanks ... If there were young people, they would be allowed to go on extras, because, well, in general, like the Chinese homosexuals - it’s yellow-black!
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    4. +1
      14 October 2014 17: 13
      Yes! No seething activity. The rest only monuments can bring down.
  24. +1
    14 October 2014 16: 23
    He noted that "the equipment produced by the Malyshev plant is the most modern type of armored weapon in the world."

    He must have gone too far
  25. ISKANDER25
    +2
    14 October 2014 16: 23
    Hello! Cho is the LITTLE at whose expense these walks? Could Chocolate Eyes decide to arrange a holiday on their grandmothers ???
  26. +1
    14 October 2014 16: 27
    There is a feeling that this is an excursion through some kind of garage workshop, there are one and a half workers, no machine humming and no automatic welding machines glittering, the engine is obviously unfocused lying directly on the floor. By the way, the engine is a T-64 smut, with a terrible consumption, limited engine life and prone to overheating two stroke diesel engine.
  27. +1
    14 October 2014 16: 31
    Quote: Telakh
    He promised to provide orders, not money and advances. The businessman is =)

    besides chocolate
  28. +6
    14 October 2014 16: 32
    Quote: LiSSyara
    An interesting sight. In the shops 3,5 worker. smile The others hid chtol?

    The rest are unreliable, closed somewhere away from sin.
  29. 0
    14 October 2014 16: 33
    In the seventh photo, it looks more like a BT-5.

    At 13 - on the tuned T-80
  30. -1
    14 October 2014 16: 33
    Well, nothing ... The militia has enough shots for RPG-7 for all the scrap metal, so the plant will be provided with torn cans.
    1. 0
      14 October 2014 18: 32
      Well Parashok said that the plant will be loaded just did not say what.
  31. 3vs
    +4
    14 October 2014 16: 39
    I didn’t pay attention ... you see, the plate on the tank:

    Tank BT-7
    Restored by Komsomol members
    Unions for the 40 anniversary of Victory
    Soviet people
    in the Great Patriotic War.

    There is no forgiveness to you people, if you forget it.
    1. 0
      14 October 2014 16: 46
      This tank is Mos * ka * lsky ...... and, therefore, it will be lustrated ..... Glory to the Banderlog!
  32. 3vs
    0
    14 October 2014 16: 41
    I didn’t pay attention to the plate on the tank:

    Tank BT-7
    Restored by Komsomol members
    Unions for the 40 anniversary of Victory
    Soviet people
    in the Great Patriotic War.

    There is no forgiveness to you people, if you forget it.
  33. 0
    14 October 2014 16: 44
    Window dressing of pure water ...
    Yes, indeed, this plant WAS the most powerful enterprise on the territory of the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic, but years passed ... and the Ukrainian crooks turned out to be quicker and quicker than the Russian "brothers", the enterprise is essentially a corpse imitating its life activity by convulsive convulsions.
  34. +1
    14 October 2014 16: 45
    Window dressing. In the photo there is the whole retinue in jackets, only one kind of multi-colored clown - like a military one. Is this not the head of the ukrop GABTU? Another criminal drew himself. I try to fix them all (I hope not only me, but also those who should). Useful for the story. Their power will once end, then they run around the world, trying to hide in the cracks. And here he is, in a ceremonial almost SS-Soviet uniform, in all its glory, as it were, in the process of plotting criminal intentions.
  35. 0
    14 October 2014 16: 46
    And what kind of shisha, petya?
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    2. 0
      14 October 2014 17: 34
      New Oplot - about 2 million $, restyling of the T-64 to Bulat - about 250ty. $
  36. +1
    14 October 2014 16: 51
    I draw the attention of Svidomo that the name of their main battle tank "Bulat" is an ideological sabotage. This word has Persian roots (foolad - steel "). The tank urgently needs to be renamed into the Ukrainian word" steel ", ie call it" krytsya ".
  37. Everest2014
    +2
    14 October 2014 16: 54
    New armored personnel carriers in Ukraine are made from hulls that were previously sent for scrap. The savings are tangible - tens of thousands of dollars from each combat vehicle. The prime minister of the country Arseniy Yatsenyuk admitted this during a visit to the Nikolaev armored plant. Thus, according to the Prime Minister, the Ukrainian authorities are also able to fight corruption.

    Original article: http://russian.rt.com/article/53993#ixzz3G7i2dmgd

    Here they have such modern armored vehicles. They now will not even buy stoned mujahideen. Bury.
  38. +1
    14 October 2014 16: 57
    These are promises, but in the end they will give money only for tires for the Maidan, and for self-made for the party of Lyashka.
  39. +3
    14 October 2014 17: 00
    Well, the militia will say PARAShenko thanks, as for the BTR-4


    [Center]

    and T-64BM "Bulat", of which at least 3 were captured by the militia, not counting the destroyed

    [/ Center]

    1. 0
      14 October 2014 18: 37
      Interestingly, the mattress in BTR 4 was put in order to hold up the fragments.
  40. +1
    14 October 2014 17: 06
    He has already "helped" them. forbidding work in cooperation with Russia. He cannot repay the debts, but "increase the state order" there. Where is the money, Zin? You make a fool of their terrible images, Zin.
  41. Chernaya Sotnya
    0
    14 October 2014 17: 13
    Quote: Semen Semenych
    Quote: Wend
    Abnormal, he needs to think about winter, and not about military equipment.


    He does not need to think about winter .... hi

    No. In the words of Klitschko - "We need to prepare for the ground."
  42. +3
    14 October 2014 17: 16
    Here I read the comments - sheer hatred and gibberish, complete ignorance of Ukrainian realities. Poroshenko can not be loved and cherished in the last words - cynical, deceiver, schemer, etc. But almost everyone, even his opponents agree that he is a very strong manager who is used to achieving the results he needs. In the summer of 2014, there was a failure in the Ukrainian army, because it was purely ill-conceived improvisation (it turns out there was a time when Defense Minister Geletey called I asked military journalists near Ilovaisk how the situation was there) but at the same time half of the territory was recaptured from the militia, the last serious exercises even in the time of Kuchma were probably. Now, for the second offensive, everything is being prepared more thoroughly - both in personnel, in equipment, and in security. It is clear that this is a long process, but as a result, I think Poroshenko will achieve an increase in the combat effectiveness of the Ukrainian army at times. You are hoping for the winter and default in vain, the West will throw another tranche, and the Kremlin is ready to resume gas supplies - big politics, nothing personal. I don’t want to make serious forecasts, but I think that next year will be more eventful with military operations, this is clearly not the end.
    1. +2
      14 October 2014 17: 22
      - Poroshenko did not fulfill at all a single one - I emphasize, not a single one - of his election promise. Strong manager? Come on.
      1. +1
        14 October 2014 17: 42
        - Poroshenko did not fulfill at all a single one - I emphasize, not a single one - of his election promise. Strong manager? Come on. - Have you seen a lot of politicians who fulfill their campaign promises ??? I think that on the fingers of one hand can be counted. But this is not the point - Poroshenko is experienced and skilled in various political behind-the-scenes games, knows firsthand how to establish a large and successful production, etc. And one more thing - he is negotiable, it would seem that the junta is bombing the peaceful Donbass, and the Poroshenko factory in Lipetsk works as nothing happened. Or the plant in Sevastopol works mainly on Russian orders. So do not consider him a stupid balabol, fraught with consequences.
        1. -1
          14 October 2014 18: 05
          Quote: Non-war
          - Poroshenko did not fulfill at all a single one - I emphasize, not a single one - of his election promise. Strong manager? Come on. - Have you seen a lot of politicians who fulfill their campaign promises ??? I think that on the fingers of one hand can be counted. But this is not the point - Poroshenko is experienced and skilled in various political behind-the-scenes games, knows firsthand how to establish a large and successful production, etc. And one more thing - he is negotiable, it would seem that the junta is bombing the peaceful Donbass, and the Poroshenko factory in Lipetsk works as nothing happened. Or the plant in Sevastopol works mainly on Russian orders. So do not consider him a stupid balabol, fraught with consequences.

          No need to whitewash him. He really didn’t do anything from what he promised. The fact that the factory in Lipetsk and the factory in Sevastopol (which one ?, did not indicate) are working is good, because people work there who receive a salary for this. And the merit in this is not Poroshenko, but the leaders and specialists of these enterprises. And it's not a fact that the profit from these industries goes into Poroshenko's pocket. All that Poroshenko does is stupid throwing, statements and lengthy speeches between his drunks (I do not condemn his "poor" at least in this). He is inadequate! And by virtue of his personal qualities and conditions in which he fell, or rather, he got himself into trouble.
        2. 0
          14 October 2014 18: 19
          In Lipetsk, the factory is already for sale!
    2. 0
      14 October 2014 17: 40
      The boy’s relatives say from work that from Kiev the technician rushing. Get ready!
    3. 0
      14 October 2014 17: 40
      The boy’s relatives say from work that from Kiev the technician rushing. Get ready!
    4. +3
      14 October 2014 17: 55
      Quote: Non-war
      It is clear that this is a long process, but as a result, I think Poroshenko will achieve an increase in the combat effectiveness of the Ukrainian army at times.

      "Where is the money, Zin?"
      The problem is that the army has lost almost all its more or less combat-ready equipment, which it has been so hard to drag through all these years.
      The ground forces even managed to grind off 1 TBR with its "bulats" (after which the Banhammer of Baron Harkonnen became extremely hot). The artillery, due to the tactical illiteracy of the command, multiplied by the acute laziness of the personnel and the unwillingness to equip the positions, also grinded off notably, transferring part of the equipment to the militia (including self-propelled and towed Msty). In fact, the Airborne Forces are no longer there - the reconfigured paratroopers are armed with armored turbines and other shushpanzers.
      Serviceable sides of the Air Force are also almost multiplied by zero. Especially considering the fact that 2-5 cars a year previously went through modernization.
      Fleet ... well, you yourself know - even in the days of Sevastopol, it came to the point that the Russian repair plant had to deal with the repair of the only Navy submarine (and then our ships provided it with dives). Now based on Odessa ...

      All that the ZSU was left with was a little working equipment, which, by the will of fate, covered quiet sections of the border, and mountains of rusty buildings at storage bases and backyards of factories. Moreover, among the buildings there are those whose manufacturer has remained in the Russian Federation (T-72, etc.). Cannibalism cannot solve the problem, because the nomenclature of parts that have died from time and weather on the same machines is the same (tires and rubber, wires, gaskets - in short, all rubber and electrics).

      So far, all that Poroshenko did was seize ready-made foreign orders. Accordingly, we must wait for the demands of a refund and litigation. As well as a sharp decline in foreign orders in the future. And these are budget revenues and salaries for local workers.

      How much does the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine already pull with payment for 8 "Oplots"? Ever since the days of Yushchenko, it seems. However, Poroshenko found a way out - he confiscated the tanks from the factory.

      Quote: Non-war
      You are hoping for the winter and default in vain, the West will throw another tranche, and the Kremlin is ready to resume gas supplies - big politics, nothing personal

      Halva, halva.
      You see, what’s the matter ... we are not talking about the bad future of Ukraine because we Russian shamans (c) predicting only the bad. We just walked this road 15 years ago, led by the best friend of the West and the great democrat Borey-Alcoholic. The next tranche will go mostly in payment of the tranche of the previous and previously made debts. And the remnants will settle in their pockets. After which, the Transhavers will again demand a cut in government spending (read - social programs).
    5. 0
      14 October 2014 18: 17
      You don’t understand the main thing, that after everything that happened in the summer, even if the golden rain pours over Ukraine, nothing good in increasing the combat efficiency of the army will come to Ukraine, if they haven’t built it in twenty months, it won’t quit!
  43. +1
    14 October 2014 17: 20
    Poroshenko promised to provide the plant to them. Malysheva orders for armored vehicles

    But he did not promise to pay for these orders. laughing
    1. 0
      14 October 2014 18: 28
      The most interesting thing is that this is just a tank factory, and in addition to the armies, the army needs a much larger range of production, and the bulk of this is small arms, equipment, communications, artillery systems - and this is just what Ukraine is not able to produce!
  44. +2
    14 October 2014 17: 21
    Poroshenko promised to provide the plant to them. Malysheva orders for armored vehicles
    He already promised to somehow pay ATO participants 30 hryvnias ...
    1. +1
      14 October 2014 17: 48
      Everything goes to this ... now inflation will be dispersed and millions will pay ... laughing
  45. +2
    14 October 2014 17: 35
    Poor Malyshev must have turned over in his grave fifteen times, learn about the future during his lifetime - he must have shot himself so that his name would not be defiled.
    At least the factory was renamed, some kind of sacrilege.
  46. +3
    14 October 2014 17: 45
    Quote: formidable
    The boy’s relatives say from work that from Kiev the technician rushing. Get ready!

    My truck driver is constantly driving to Kharkov from work, he has been standing there for the last week, waiting for loading. He says technology through the region rushing more than in the summer. And this is only the beginning of preparation.
    1. 0
      14 October 2014 17: 57
      Technique and weapons are not everything, you need to know how to use them. Soldiers should have a DESIRE to learn, and officers should have KNOWLEDGE to teach. I'm afraid the tactics of fighting the new Armed Forces will be like Georgia's (foreign specialists trained there too) and you can also estimate how many training specialists (advisers) you need. I am silent about the time. Even if in a short time they can "put together" something, discipline in the troops will reduce everything to NO, there are plenty of recent examples. Such an army can only be made to obey unquestioningly by shooting every tenth, and it is unlikely that it will be professionals on the battlefield - it will remain meat.
    2. +2
      14 October 2014 18: 03
      Quote: Non-war

      My truck driver is constantly driving to Kharkov from work, he has been standing there for the last week, waiting for loading. He says technology through the region rushing more than in the summer. And this is only the beginning of preparation.

      Ukrainian Voentorg launched a new delivery? smile

      Seriously, everyone knows that Kiev is going to repeat Operation Tempest. The only problem is that the DPR and LPR are not Serbian Krajina, and the Russian Federation is not Yugoslavia.

      Given the talents of the military leadership of Ukraine (in particular, the ability to organize all the conditions for the environment of their troops themselves), I would not be so optimistic about the next stage of the ATO.
  47. 0
    14 October 2014 17: 49
    Question to fellow countrymen: What has become better without a monument to Lenin in Kharkov? Has the city become more gay European? For full geyropeikosti I propose to put on the square a composition - "Taras Bulba enters into an intimate relationship with his son Andrey" fellow
  48. +2
    14 October 2014 17: 54
    Quote: Telakh
    He promised to provide orders, not money and advances. The businessman is =)


    Looking at the bags under the eyes of the pig, you can confidently say where he puts the money. His kidneys are half way to the toilet, okay! laughing
  49. 0
    14 October 2014 18: 23
    ... as I understand it, this news is designed to raise the jumping ability of the dill mass ... and the Glavukrop forgot about his promise as soon as he dumped from Kharkov.
  50. 0
    14 October 2014 18: 27
    a lot of pre-election chatter and promises, but I think the money for the war will lend at a small percentage
  51. 0
    14 October 2014 18: 46
    and will he also provide materials and energy, the lacy devil?
  52. 0
    14 October 2014 19: 32
    This is where our intelligence and Russian sympathizers need to organize acts of sabotage and help the workers with money.
  53. +1
    14 October 2014 19: 52
    Quote from comprochikos
    So it’s all Russian, only redone, like the Chinese Kalash. They give up everything Russian, even products, and do not disdain anything with tanks and armored personnel carriers. Unprincipled people.

    What is it? You probably forgot the T-34? This is a Kharkov development. The 44th is already Uralmash, but the problem is that the same Kharkov resident Morozov developed it. But seriously, everything modern comes from 64, and this is Kharkov again. So there is no need to talk about the exclusivity of Russian developments. It’s worth mentioning that everyone has passed through Ukraine. You can’t even imagine how the defense industry was killed. And when I hear that The President PERSONALLY! takes care of defense orders for a leading enterprise, I laugh (through tears). You don’t understand, you live in another country.
  54. +1
    14 October 2014 22: 20
    Quote: stalkerwalker
    Quote: Kars
    after an attempt to disrupt the Pakistani contract, tanks are released without the participation of the rpk rf

    I will not ask what a former businessman can understand from the explanation of the retinue of details of tank systems and mechanisms ...
    I will ask something else - "What is necessary for the Malyshev plant to be able to smoothly produce competitive and combat-ready equipment in the optimal mode? What, apart from promises, should Malyshev workers be given?"

    First of all, we need SPECIALISTS! And they have long since retired or fled. They will try to call pensioners and promise mountains of gold. It is unlikely that the plant will be revived, IMHO. Half of the factory buildings are already office centers
    1. +2
      14 October 2014 22: 35
      Quote: Kharkov0892
      First of all, we need SPECIALISTS! And they have long since retired or fled. They will try to call pensioners and promise mountains of gold. It is unlikely that the plant will be revived, IMHO. Half of the factory buildings are already office centers

      Thank you.
      Brief and clear.
      hi
  55. +3
    15 October 2014 00: 08
    the most modern tank "Oplot"

    From May 2 to August 31, troops of Novorossiya destroyed 19 “most modern tanks”
    http://owap.so/one2623750/#nav
  56. 0
    15 October 2014 12: 39
    Promising does not mean marrying laughing