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What documentation will Ukraine still sell?

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Less than a year ago, when the implications for the Ukrainian aviation industry of the signing of an association agreement between Ukraine and the EU were analyzed, a very unfortunate prospect emerged for the country's only aviation science and technology complex. However, today the situation was somewhat different than we saw it: Ukraine was stirred up by a neo-Nazi coup d'etat, which soon grew into a full-scale war in the Donbass, another “gas war” broke out, and the economy finally went into a tailspin.

What documentation will Ukraine still sell?


An analysis of the state of affairs in the Ukrainian aviation industry showed that when signing an agreement with the EU and the destruction of cooperative ties with Russia, ANTK im. Antonova will not be able to produce new aircraft. According to Dmitry Kiva, General Designer of Antonov Group of Companies, the enterprise does not have a single project, the share of Russia in which would be less than 50%. In particular, 148 enterprises of Russia take part in the production of the An-126, at which more than 60% of aircraft components are manufactured. The share of Russian products in the final cost of the An-140, which 100 Russian plants are working on, is about 70%. Attempts to cooperate with Americans and Europeans ended in complete collapse: as the then Prime Minister Mykola Azarov said, “I had a meeting with the French leadership and the leadership aviation "Airbus, and they told me that your plane (An-70) is better than ours, but we will do everything so that your plane does not find a market."

The fact is that shortly before this, Antonov was simply besieged by Airbus representatives on the joint production of the A400 transport plane, up to promises to provide the possibility of making parts and assemblies of the aircraft in Ukraine. It all ended with the fact that the Europeans, having received from the Antonov State Enterprise their unique technical documentation, after some time produced their own aircraft, suspiciously similar to the Ukrainian prototype. Naturally, without the participation of the Ukrainian side.

Considering all of this, the prospect of the Ukrainian aviation industry remained real, and not drawn by the “patriots” in the imagination of the Ukrainian aviation industry ... repairs and upgrades of the An-1947 “corncob”, which first flew into the air in 2 year.

Of course, such durability of this aircraft speaks about the genius of the decisions incorporated in its design, and it’s not shameful to make money on its repairs and upgrades. Moreover, the aircraft is massively used and will be used in two dozen countries.

But the current Ukrainian realities have made their adjustments in this perspective. October 2 TASS agency published a message that the Department of Aviation Industry Ministry of Industry and Trade of Russia could not buy from the ASTC. Antonov working design documentation for the An-2, necessary for the serial replacement of these aircraft engines for engines of new development. As it turned out, the owner of this documentation is now the military unit of the European aviation giant Airbus Military, in whose hands it fell through Polish intermediaries.

However, this is not about Russia, which will still buy this documentation and Annushki will carry out the planned mass remotorization. It's about Ukraine, from now on forced to purchase its own documentation from foreigners. For example, to fulfill the contract for the modernization of 140 An-2 with the Cuban Aviation Corporation, concluded in September 2013 year and calculated for the sum of 3-4 billion dollars.

Of course, the fact of the sale of copyright on their own design documentation to competitors, who have already proved their dishonesty, could raise many questions about the sanity of the people who made decisions about it.

If it were not about Ukraine, after the February coup d'état that faced Europe and the United States, especially in a pose of which it deigns, sir. Although in previous years, the country's leadership sold to the left and to the right the secrets that belonged not only to her alone, but also to other states of the former USSR.

Everyone remembers the case of the sale by Ukraine of the Russian-made Su-33 Russian-designed fighter design fighters after gaining independence for China. It is thanks to this that the PRC soon, without acquiring a license from Russia, established its own production of this type of weapon. The shipbuilders of Nikolaev, fulfilling the decision of the Ukrainian government, in the 1998 year, sold to China the unfinished Soviet-era heavy aircraft carrying cruiser Varyag, which in 2012 year became part of the PRC Navy as the first aircraft carrier. And as the deck aircraft on it under the name Shenyang J-15 used Su-33 Chinese production. Moreover, several other Chinese aircraft carriers are being built on the basis of the Varyag design.

In 1990-ies, the deputy head of the Security Service of Ukraine, Alexander Skipalsky, provided American specialists with documentation and the opportunity to freely investigate a unique structure, which experts from all over the Soviet Union worked on, - a radar station in Mukachevo. This cyclopean structure, stuffed with electronics, served for the early detection of missile strikes, made it possible to detect the launch of a ballistic missile and calculate its trajectory not only in Europe, but also in the northern part of the Atlantic Ocean. This greatly helped the United States in developing its own missile defense systems and solving the problems of overcoming Russian missile defense.

The industrial cooperation of the Soviet defense industry provided for the participation of dozens and hundreds of enterprises of the entire USSR in the implementation of the production of weapons. At the same time, willy-nilly, the accessory companies became owners of each other’s secrets and technologies, and their cooperation ties were maintained even after the collapse of the Soviet Union. For example, until the last days, the Dnepropetrovsk Yuzhnoye design bureau participated in many Russian missile programs, the Motor Sich's Zaporozhye PO supplied the Russian Air Force with aircraft and helicopter engines. GAHK "Dneprovsky Machine-Building Plant" once participated in the creation and production of anti-aircraft missile systems C-300. Ukrainian enterprises were involved in the production and modernization of Buk-М1, С-300 and air defense systems as a whole.

Of course, some of these developments have long been "gone" abroad. The brightest examples again lie in high-tech areas. The cooperation of Yuzhnoye Design Bureau and Yuzhmash Production Association with NASA on the Antares launch vehicle assumes the use of some technical solutions related to strategic missiles in service with the Russian Strategic Missile Forces. Joint developments on the program of equipping the newest corvette, designed by Ukraine, after the decision to attract European partners are not a secret to them. As well as information on developments in the field of hydroacoustics, transferred to the Germans as a contribution to joint development, quickly rolled up under US pressure.

After the pro-American political forces came to power in February 2014, signed and ratified the association agreement with the EU, the situation with the safety of confidential technical information in Ukraine simply got out of control. Firstly, the agreement with the European Union contains provisions on the adaptation and accession of Ukraine to the pan-European security system, which relies on NATO. Secondly, the decision of Arseniy Yatsenyuk, made back in the spring of 2014, about the presence of European “advisers” in each ministry, which even the deputy ministers are obliged to obey, allows the “advisers” to receive the necessary documentation without any particular hassle. Thirdly, according to information from employees of the Security Service of Ukraine, the Ukrainian counterintelligence, ensuring the preservation of secrets in the field of technology, today has become a branch of the CIA, whose agents practically manage all the steps of this special service. Fourthly, a political decision was made to draw closer to NATO, based on a joint approach with Russia to the North Atlantic alliance as the enemy No. 1. And, most importantly, according to reports of Ukrainian news agencies, the Cabinet, through its decision, opened access for NATO experts to Ukrainian secret objects and documentation, motivating this with an interest in foreign investment in the military-industrial complex.

One should not disregard the catastrophic situation of Ukrainian enterprises set by the new leadership of the country in a hopeless situation. The steps to completely break all ties with Russia led to the fact that these enterprises, primarily high-tech ones, are simply forced to sell their own and developments obtained through the industrial co-operation for a pittance to anyone who wants to buy them.

All this suggests that the former partners of Ukraine in the near future are waiting for a lot of "wonderful discoveries" in the form of unexpected owners of technical documentation, and in the form of someone's sudden technological leaps based on technical solutions previously provided for familiarization to Ukrainian specialists-accessory companies. Well, in the field of defense industry, the price of Ukrainian openness to partners from the United States and NATO is altogether difficult to overestimate.
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  1. anip
    anip 8 October 2014 08: 36
    +33
    What documentation will Ukraine still sell?

    All
    1. sscha
      sscha 8 October 2014 08: 41
      +18
      Debility, greed and hypocrisy have no limits .... fool
      1. INVESTOR
        INVESTOR 8 October 2014 09: 00
        +3
        And after all these dirty tricks, when suddenly the Svidomo see and repent, Russia will forgive them for the generosity of the soul ..
        1. Veter
          Veter 8 October 2014 09: 28
          +3
          Quote: INVESTOR
          when suddenly svidomye see and repent

          Without waiting for this, there is talk of resuming the sale of gas at a discount. And the sale of chocolates. As far as I know, the factories still smoke it with us. Russia is a good soul.
          1. kush62
            kush62 8 October 2014 10: 18
            +4
            And the sales of chocolates gutted. As far as I know, the factories still smoke it with us. Russia is a good soul.


            Russians don't buy Poroshenko's products together. There was an open letter from the workers of the Lipetsk confectionery about the deplorable state of their factory. They ask you to take pity and buy sweets from "virtue".
            1. airborne forces
              airborne forces 8 October 2014 12: 21
              0
              So they say the factory in Lipetsk has earned ...
        2. vladimirZ
          vladimirZ 8 October 2014 11: 00
          +1
          Of course, some of these developments have long “gone” abroad. (from article)


          What is there to cry through the hair when the head was taken off ?!
          They themselves destroyed a prosperous life!
          Well, how can such a people be called, not people, although they really understood that it was impossible to ruin their own state, because it would be bad, it is the DEBLE PEOPLE, unfortunately, of course.
          1. 33 Watcher
            33 Watcher 8 October 2014 11: 56
            +3
            Here, here it’s not fraternal, and we don’t need to convince us of the opposite.
        3. Proud.
          Proud. 8 October 2014 11: 46
          +1
          Quote: INVESTOR
          And after all these dirty tricks, when suddenly the Svidomo see and repent, Russia will forgive them for the generosity of the soul ..

          The government may forgive. Russia (People) -NEVER.
        4. 33 Watcher
          33 Watcher 8 October 2014 11: 54
          0
          It is a question or a statement?
    2. viktorrymar
      viktorrymar 8 October 2014 08: 51
      +1
      Bad, very bad, but it will force our scientists to make a leap forward!
    3. samoletil18
      samoletil18 8 October 2014 09: 02
      +1
      Quote: anip
      All
      It means that soon there will be nothing to sell.
      1. zheka
        zheka 8 October 2014 09: 10
        +3
        Yes, they are ready to sell a soul ....
        1. aleks_29296
          aleks_29296 8 October 2014 09: 48
          +4
          zheka Today, 09:10 ↑ ↓ New

          Yes, they are ready to sell their soul

          They sold their soul for a long time, and they sold their roots. For overseas cookies on the Maidan.
          1. andj61
            andj61 8 October 2014 10: 04
            +3
            Quote: aleks_29296
            Yes, they are ready to sell their soul

            The "top" sells the documentation and the soul to the West, but we need people - scientists, designers, engineers, workers to move to us, and there is work for everyone.
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    5. Sharky
      Sharky 8 October 2014 09: 11
      +6
      The only good thing that Ukraine itself created was the STALKER game. But you can’t wait for the second part, because here we also found a cunning GSC head Sergey Grigorovich who grabbed all the rights to the game! Then a group of developers broke away from the team, and he sold the rights to another company - Bethesda (USA). Like this.
      1. Basarev
        Basarev 8 October 2014 17: 09
        +1
        Sergei Grigorovich dishonors his famous namesake, whose name is called the ships. Ships are called Admiral Grigorovich.
    6. Sailor
      Sailor 8 October 2014 11: 27
      +3
      Moreover, I think that I have already sold everything. Although acting in alliance with the defense industry complex of the Russian Federation, we could reach the 4th-5th place in the sale of arms. Simply by distributing niches of interests and creating closer cooperation.
  2. Alez
    Alez 8 October 2014 08: 40
    +12
    They did not notice Dill, as Geyropa turned her back to them. Whether there will still be, Glory to Ukraine, deb..am glory !!!
    1. Drunya
      Drunya 8 October 2014 08: 45
      +5
      Quote: Alez
      It's only the beginning

      http://ria.ru/world/20141007/1027343699.html
      UNIAN: Chevron launches shale gas production in Ukraine
      The RIA Novosti group reports: The American oil and gas company Chevron is opening accounts in Ukraine for shale gas production, according to UNIAN.
      Such permission was granted to the representative office of the company by the National Bank of Ukraine. This is stated in the decree No. 623 of the NBU of October 2, published on its website.
      Hydrocarbons will be mined in Lviv and Ivano-Frankivsk regions. According to the decision of the NBU, the accounts of the Chevron representative office in Ukraine are opened in national and foreign currencies.
      Chevron intends to invest about $ 10 billion in hydrocarbon production in the western regions of Ukraine. In November 2013, an agreement was signed between Chevron and Nadra Olesskaya, 90% of which belongs to the state-owned Nadra Ukrainy (it includes 13 geological exploration and specialized enterprises).
      On October 3, Yaroslav Klimovich, the head of the board of the Nadra Ukrainy company, announced that next week Ukraine intends to approve the final version of the operating agreement on shale gas production with Chevron.
      Quote: Alez
      It's only the beginning
      1. malay
        malay 8 October 2014 09: 00
        +3
        It was similar with the Indians, doesn’t it?
    2. abrakadabre
      abrakadabre 8 October 2014 12: 37
      0
      They did not notice Dill, as Geyropa turned her back to them.
      Back Geyropa long and firmly facing the United States. And crouching enjoys. Ukraine is assigned the role of crawling in front and serving
  3. Neighbor
    Neighbor 8 October 2014 08: 42
    +7
    As if the last day is living. and maybe the last one, in Ukraine. The entire "elite" apparently has dual citizenship.
  4. Wolka
    Wolka 8 October 2014 08: 42
    +7
    Ukrainians and mother sell their own, ETOGES Ukrainians, pathological greed is a natural hallmark of all Ukrainians ... these will never become rich
    1. shasherin.pavel
      shasherin.pavel 8 October 2014 09: 54
      +2
      Quote: Volka
      Ukrainians and mother sell their own,
      Look narrowly, dear, apparently they forgot the story in which even Stalin, when he was offered to do this, doubted, saying: "Which one, will sell strategic developments in aviation to the enemy?" There were even stories that the head of the procurement commission allegedly won the contract for the purchase of jet engines in a billiard batch, forcing him to sign the contract. But in fact, the jet engines were sold to us with joy, and even a license to produce them. We should also not forget that all our strategic Tu-4s took off on American chassis, which our industry could not reproduce. This business is done all over the world, it is the government's duty to protect their industry. The situation shows us that there is no government on the Extreme! And another comment to the article, since the com has been inserted: Should we offer an An-3 or upgrade all An-2s to An-3s with a jet engine in all 20 countries where they are operated, and the last opportunity for the plant will be lost. Through this, we can assess the viability of the Putin administration to strengthen the Russian economy.
      1. Basarev
        Basarev 8 October 2014 17: 14
        0
        And by the way, the question is about An-2. Is there any purely Russian analogue of Ukrainian corn maize?
  5. Gray 43
    Gray 43 8 October 2014 08: 44
    +5
    Already someone threw a minus. The article voiced what it was already clear for a long time - the Maidan was invented to liquidate under the guise of competitors for the European industry, it's a pity for such a company as Antonov, sooooo soon something similar in specialization and scale will appear in Ukraine
  6. Roman1970
    Roman1970 8 October 2014 08: 45
    +1
    Yes, he’ll sell any, if only they would pay!
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 8 October 2014 08: 54
      +2
      Quote: Roman1970
      Yes, he’ll sell any, if only they would pay!

      let them sell the documentation for the "Great Ukrainian Wall" laughing
      1. shasherin.pavel
        shasherin.pavel 8 October 2014 09: 57
        0
        Just Extreme and wants to get a project for the construction of the wall.
  7. pensioner
    pensioner 8 October 2014 08: 48
    +2
    Considering all of this, the prospect of the Ukrainian aviation industry remained real, and not drawn by the “patriots” in the imagination of the Ukrainian aviation industry ... repairs and upgrades of the An-1947 “corncob”, which first flew into the air in 2 year.

    I don’t have anything against AN-2, I’m even proud that such an aircraft was created in our common country. But how does this situation generalize everything that happened to Ukraine in some 8 months !!
  8. killganoff
    killganoff 8 October 2014 08: 48
    +7
    How long is a fool x .. crystal?
    They sell everything that can be sold not only to geyropia, but also to the Chinese, they made many interesting "fittings" in the form of all the necessary documentation for the production of the Zubr and Su-33 airborne missiles. It does not matter to them what damage will be the most independent, it is more important for them to annoy Russia in any form and size.
    1. shasherin.pavel
      shasherin.pavel 8 October 2014 09: 58
      0
      Quote: killganoff
      it is more important for them to annoy Russia in

      I will frostbite my ears, if only mom would be worse.
    2. Eggor
      8 October 2014 12: 25
      +3
      Quote: killganoff
      DVKP "Zubr"
      "Chinese":
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  9. jovanni
    jovanni 8 October 2014 08: 49
    +3
    They ruined the collapse of the Motherland, then flowed to Yeltsin and this whole Chubais-Gaidar gop company, now we’ll bite our elbows more than once ... If we again allow the liberals to do their vile deed, we are a khan! And the tefft already in Yaroslavl brain dilutes our children ...
    1. 406ppm2gv
      406ppm2gv 8 October 2014 20: 49
      0
      Jovanni (3) RU  Today, 08:49 AM


      They ruined the collapse of the Motherland, then flowed to Yeltsin and all this Chubais-Gaidar gop company, now we’ll bite our elbows more than once
      Okay, went through the 90s. but now, which year a barrel of oil costs more than $ 100, what prevented the construction of plants? make import substitution (as it is now fashionable to put it), buy the necessary machines for manufactured products. no, the currency was put aside in the notorious reserve fund, in the pockets of oligarchs and others like them, but not on the development of the economy.
    2. 406ppm2gv
      406ppm2gv 8 October 2014 20: 49
      0
      Jovanni (3) RU  Today, 08:49 AM


      They ruined the collapse of the Motherland, then flowed to Yeltsin and all this Chubais-Gaidar gop company, now we’ll bite our elbows more than once
      Okay, went through the 90s. but now, which year a barrel of oil costs more than $ 100, what prevented the construction of plants? make import substitution (as it is now fashionable to put it), buy the necessary machines for manufactured products. no, the currency was put aside in the notorious reserve fund, in the pockets of oligarchs and others like them, but not on the development of the economy.
  10. Serge Mikhas
    Serge Mikhas 8 October 2014 08: 49
    0
    What kind of safety of the aviation and any other industry can we talk about now in Ukraine? Jackals and scavengers of all stripes torment and sell everything that is available to them, and what is inaccessible is destroyed with the help of large-caliber artillery. After such a "festival" decades will pass, so that even a little - will recover a little from this Sabbath. Millions of the population began their exodus from their homeland. And the most able-bodied and strongest are leaving first. What kind of aircraft can we talk about? For the next decades, the industrial potential will be comparable only to that of Romanian ... Europe together, the whole industry. Aircraft of Ukraine! Forget ....
  11. vdtomsk
    vdtomsk 8 October 2014 08: 49
    +2
    Selling any secret for cookies. Contact - Ukraine! winked
  12. DMB-75
    DMB-75 8 October 2014 08: 51
    +3
    ... everything is sold, come back tomorrow:
    1. Nevsky_ZU
      Nevsky_ZU 8 October 2014 09: 18
      +6
      Quote: DMB-75
      ... everything is sold, come back tomorrow:


      The best answer is this video:

  13. Bronik
    Bronik 8 October 2014 08: 52
    0
    Ah_uyut, like this, for cheaply selling your own and our developments, it’s somehow not even for hoh_lyatsky.
  14. Egoza
    Egoza 8 October 2014 08: 53
    +1
    And all this despite the fact that ....
    "Commander of the Air Force of Ukraine Yuriy Baidak doubts that Ukraine will be able to purchase military aircraft from the countries of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) - in particular, F-16 fighters.
    He noted that The Armed Forces really need airplanes at the moment, but there is no way to buy them. “Nobody will give us anything. There, already the turn is behind the same F-16, one company does it. The NATO countries themselves are standing in line to renew them. They (fighters) are very old, ”he said.
    In addition, according to Baidak, even outdated F-16 aircraft require additional purchases of expensive equipment and weapons. The air force commander also noted that, unfortunately, the Ministry of Defense had few helicopters left, which are used mainly for transporting personnel.
    http://www.vremia.ua/rubrics/sobytiya/6760.php
  15. LVMI1980
    LVMI1980 8 October 2014 08: 53
    +1
    there was "Ikarus" no Ikarus, there was "Antonov" and "YuzhMash" ...
  16. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 8 October 2014 08: 54
    +1
    The documentation in the form in which it exists in Ukraine, the developed countries still need to "digest". It is necessary to translate into "digital" square kilometers of paper drawings, hundreds of thousands of sheets of documentation written in a specific engineering language. It's just expensive. And this will only be done if the development value is truly exceptional. Which I doubt. Everything that was available to dill from the latest Russian developments does not have a holistic character.
    Such sales of documentation for nothing are more restrictive. To crush competitors.
    1. TUNISIA
      TUNISIA 8 October 2014 09: 06
      +4
      Translation of classified documents is the simplest, cheapest and most unhindered part of an ongoing intelligence operation to extract these same secrets. So nobody will put anything on the shelf and in the long drawer overseas.
      And the Ukrainians are traitors, which, as it were, should determine their fate. Russia will not forgive such steps by the "brothers".
    2. Begemot
      Begemot 8 October 2014 09: 09
      +1
      I agree only in part, in the west there are enough of their own specialists, and most importantly, it is full of our former to understand. Sometimes a single drawing can contribute to a breakthrough in a large project.
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  17. Mihail29
    Mihail29 8 October 2014 08: 58
    +2
    It’s just what Judas is, it’s necessary to relate to their own homeland.
  18. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 8 October 2014 09: 00
    +4
    It all ended with the fact that the Europeans, having received their unique technical documentation from the Antonov state enterprise, after some time produced their own aircraft, suspiciously similar to the Ukrainian prototype. Naturally, without the participation of the Ukrainian side.

    The U. Kropchiks thought that only they were such cunning, free-loving representatives of the geyropa (they already consider themselves Europeans). But no. On the cunning z.opu there is always a bolt with a screw.
  19. Russian Uzbek
    Russian Uzbek 8 October 2014 09: 02
    +1
    here it is, and the entire independent Ukraine ... for 23 years they only sold all property without creating anything!
  20. valentina-makanalina
    valentina-makanalina 8 October 2014 09: 04
    +3
    Everything related to the production of weapons should be made only at our Russian plants. And this is the development of our scientific base, the rise of our industry and new jobs.
    One must be completely independent of other states.
    We must move away from the concept of "fraternal", to the concept of "partner" relationship when it comes to the country's defense capability.
  21. Michael North
    Michael North 8 October 2014 09: 09
    +1
    Hohlyatsky cattle, they will sell the mother, if there is a buyer. "Who is not jumping, he is, and who is jumping DOLB..B". Here and jump backwards, so that it would be more convenient for you to have gamerope and amerikasos!
  22. Stinger
    Stinger 8 October 2014 09: 10
    +1
    Have you not sold everything yet? This is a big misunderstanding of a market economy. The rabbit immediately realized the error after being maidanulsya. Now everything will be as it should. Glory to Ukraine!
  23. Signature
    Signature 8 October 2014 09: 15
    +5
    When you look at the headline, according to which Ukraine is selling something again, the "stream of consciousness" is immediately spun ...
    So. By the mercy and whim of the ideologists - relatively speaking - of the "Belovezhskaya Pushcha", which led to the violent (in my opinion) division of a single country into a bunch of now regularly mutually gnawing "unfinished" (i.e. not quite countries), I now live where and I live. Disgusting, but it is. And I understand that I am not Ukraine, and Ukraine is not me. And that is why those who sell something to the USA or the EU (even on behalf of Ukraine) are immediately identified with this very Ukraine?
    In general, in my opinion, it is more correct to say: such and such (clearly namerek) cleanly sold Ukrainian secrets to such and such amounts.
    For these amounts will never fall into the pocket of Ukraine. By the way, when notorious politicians from Ukraine profited from gas from Russia, the people of Ukraine were so far from distributing this profit that now it is absurd to ask him why he does not feel gratitude to Russia for its "gas support" ?!
  24. Dbnfkmtdbx
    Dbnfkmtdbx 8 October 2014 09: 17
    0
    Looking at what is happening in Ukraine with the economy, there are only memories left that I really want to shout glory to Ukraine and especially its heroes or just DEBILS until jumping left with a bare ass and still someone pulling us in the first snow yesterday Ukraine knee-deep fell a huge hello from Siberians start jumping or repaint in it or whatever you have
  25. 2sila
    2sila 8 October 2014 09: 18
    0
    What are you talking about ?!
    They do not need airplanes, trains, steamboats.
    Factories, factories and even cities.
    Roguli is a dense, primitive form of the layman, the crook.
    For him, the top of a dream, being and happiness is a grunting boar in a barn.
    And so the top of their career for them is a day job in Europe .....
    Here is a good example of the denseness of rogues. They walk around the Lviv Lychakiv cemetery and dream of lying there, and when they see a propeller on the grave of a pilot they call it a MILL !!!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-gUgCTZllw
  26. Evgeni
    Evgeni 8 October 2014 09: 25
    +1
    Quote: zheka
    Yes, they are ready to sell a soul ....

    They already sold
  27. Aleks tv
    Aleks tv 8 October 2014 09: 30
    +5
    Do not forget the following:
    Ukraine:
    - cut 10 Tu-160, 19 Tu-95MS and 6 Tu-142 under the Nanna Lugar program for Amer’s money, refusing to sell them to Russia,
    - destroyed according to the same program in Poltava, Priluki and the White Church 60 Tu-22M (17 Tu-22М2 and 43 Tu-22М3).
    - destroyed the same Makar for the sake of the Yankens 487 cruise missiles X-55 and 423 aircraft cruise missiles X-22.
    If the equipment was destroyed under PERSONAL control, do you think the documentation was not shared?

    Sold by USA:
    - 2 Su-27,
    - 1 Mig-29,
    - 1 BMP-3,
    - 4 T-80 with active protection "Drozd-2" and dynamic protection "Knife" ... !!!
    And it also sold without documentation? Yeah, schazzzzzzzzzzzzz.

    Well, the fact that they drove documentation to NITKU and their independent pride in China: dvigl 5TDF are just trifles ...
    ..........................................

    To put it mildly, then ... WRONG IT.

    Photo: T-80UD, prepared for shipment to America.
    1. Tankmaster
      Tankmaster 8 October 2014 10: 25
      +2
      A little clarification, we sold three T-80UD tanks with the KAZ "Drozd" and one with an air conditioner.
      And in 1997 they sold the T-72 upgraded to the T-72AG from the Shtora KAZ.
      But without documentation, but MOT and RE.
      The fact that the rulers of Krajina sold our secrets .. so all this was still an allied elaboration fact ... but they haven’t brought anyone to court yet ... but I hope this mistake will be corrected in New Russia.
  28. vodolaz
    vodolaz 8 October 2014 09: 34
    0
    They sold the whole country and the Russians were all to blame for it.
    1. shasherin.pavel
      shasherin.pavel 8 October 2014 10: 43
      0
      Quote: vodolaz
      They sold the whole country and it’s all their fault.

      It will be not enough !!! I also want .. but not what! One naked ass and left ...
  29. demon184
    demon184 8 October 2014 09: 36
    0
    And this happens because our special services did not work in the territory of the former USSR
  30. Sergey Sitnikov
    Sergey Sitnikov 8 October 2014 09: 37
    0
    Traitors!
  31. made13
    made13 8 October 2014 09: 41
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    One crest - the owner, two crests - the partisan detachment, three crests - the partisan detachment with a traitor! The country of Ukrainians-Maydown!
  32. Belimbai
    Belimbai 8 October 2014 09: 44
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    "For example, to fulfill the contract for the modernization of 140 An-2 with the Cuban Aviation Corporation, signed in September 2013 and calculated in the amount of 3-4 billion dollars."
    I do not quibble, but we must think that you write ....
  33. fridge
    fridge 8 October 2014 09: 45
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    And yet, the faster they sell everything, the faster they will alles. Rot and thugs are not transferred to the power of Ukraine. So this is a national trait? So what will I be for tso? belay
  34. Wedmak
    Wedmak 8 October 2014 09: 53
    +1
    Crested Ukrainians circled around the finger. They bought everything that was possible on the vine and left it in their underpants before winter. We bet, at the first freezing and failure of the heat-generating capacities, Russia will again be blamed for this?
    It’s not comprehensible to HOW HOW EVERYTHING could have been done .. you can’t pick up another word for such a short time ??? !!! Now jump ...
  35. Strashila
    Strashila 8 October 2014 10: 04
    +1
    And actually how Ukraine differs from the Yeltsin era from Russia ... but nothing, then they traded the country’s secrets both wholesale and retail.
    Just know one thing, but reproduce it is quite another
    1. Wedmak
      Wedmak 8 October 2014 10: 11
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      And in fact, how Ukraine differs from the Yeltsin era from Russia ...

      Well, at least by the fact that we had the mind not to cut all the long-range aviation, to keep the Strategic Missile Forces intact, the fleet afloat, aviation in the air. Of course they sold a lot of things, but they did harm themselves. And Ukrainians mostly harm us. In the sense of trying to harm us, but it turns out to itself ...
  36. PROXOR
    PROXOR 8 October 2014 10: 27
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    I think it’s time for Antonov’s employees to dismantle all the production facilities, load all this into the MRIA and other planes that were left with the remnants of the documentation and fly with us to the families themselves. THREATED such a giant !!!!! COUNTRY is simply destroyed. And when all the juices are sucked out, we will be again to blame for the catastrophic conditions of life on an independent one.
  37. IAlex
    IAlex 8 October 2014 10: 53
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    In general, now from Ukraine, the RF value has only negative values. In the Russian Federation, in the 90s, ESes scooped up most of the scientists and technologies, however, a lot of things remained and something new was developed. As I understand it, no one will punish those degenerates in the Russian Federation who started the An-7x, An-148 programs instead of Il-112 and Il-214 with them, swelling almost 1 mldr there. $ and giving everything to dill and ESes in the form of the A400M project And how many such projects were there and nobody was punished or punished ...
  38. Alexey RA
    Alexey RA 8 October 2014 11: 48
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    What documentation will Ukraine still sell?

    None - everything interesting has long been sold. And the blueprints of a catapult are of no interest to anyone.
  39. HU YOUR
    HU YOUR 8 October 2014 11: 56
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    Quote: INVESTOR
    And after all these dirty tricks, when suddenly the Svidomo see and repent, Russia will forgive them for the generosity of the soul ..

    And sell gas at the price of brooms.
  40. wow
    wow 9 October 2014 22: 57
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    Dill is ready to sell everything, even a pot with its own crap (if there is a buyer), not to mention the valuable (so far) technical documentation for the products of the military-industrial complex of the USSR.