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Corporation "Protection" will put in the army "Scorpions"

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The first batch of cars "Scorpion" will be delivered to the troops of the corporation "Protection" in 2015, the newspaper said MIC with reference to Interfax-AVN.

Corporation "Protection" will put in the army "Scorpions"


“In 2015, the corporation plans to manufacture several dozen army vehicles like the Scorpion as part of the state defense order,” said an agency source in the military-industrial complex. He recalled that "three types of army vehicles" Scorpio "was assigned the letter 0-1 and they were taken to supply the army."

According to the source, we are talking about "army vehicles" Scorpion LSHA-1 "(LSHA - light assault vehicle) with an open top (awning)," Scorpion LSHA-2 "with a hard metal top and an armored vehicle" Scorpion LSHA-2B "" .

“In the summer of the current year, the armored Scorpion LSHA-2B, as part of 15, of promising samples of military vehicles was successfully tested in heat-desert, sandy and mountainous areas in the Astrakhan Region and the Republic of Kabardino-Balkaria. The total length of the test route was approximately 4200 km. ”

He noted that "that the tactical-technical and operational characteristics of the special vehicle" Scorpion "basically correspond to the specified customer requirements, current standards and other regulatory and technical documentation, and according to the level of certain special properties (anti-mine resistance, resistance to incendiary mixtures of the type" napalm "and others.) more than 3 times the specified requirements."

As noted earlier, these cars are designed for special forces. The main advantage of the unarmored "Scorpion LSHA" is its speed and maneuverability. It can carry various weapons, including machine guns KPVT, "Kord", or the grenade launcher "Flame".

Help MIC: “The weight of the Scorpion, depending on the modification, is 4,5-5,0 t with a load-carrying capacity of up to 1,1 t. The engine is a HP 166 diesel engine. Maximum speed - 130 km / h. Power reserve - 1000 km. Wheel formula - 4x4. Armor protection - protection of the cabin, fuel tanks, batteries, engine compartment. The car is equipped with a bullet protection weapons 6 class GOST and designs from the explosion of explosive devices up to 600 grams in TNT equivalent. "

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  1. nvn_co
    nvn_co 29 September 2014 17: 23
    +18
    But the device didn’t seem like it turned out ... Well done, a useful machine! soldier
    1. kodxnumx
      kodxnumx 29 September 2014 17: 33
      +14
      Car Class! That would have been done in the civilian version, there would be no end, I’m sure many would have moved from foreign cars to such cool SUVs.
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      2. zeleznijdorojnik
        zeleznijdorojnik 29 September 2014 17: 58
        +88
        You whatever you want - and I minus - until the army will be supplied with equipment from incomprehensible factories in the amount of several dozen, and not specially created for tasks, but deeply sawn civilian - where, fucking it, unification - imagine yourself as a deputy technician of a battalion that has GAZ Tigers "and" Vodniki "with American diesel engines, KAMAZ" Typhoons "and" Bulats "(and they are in the army - I saw them myself), URAL" Typhoons "," Bear ", Ivek" Lynx ", this most unknown" Scorpion ", yes the usual GAZ Sadko, KAMAZ, URALs are also loaded, and in storage there are also ZIL-130/131 with shishigs and 53 lawns - this is okay - where can you get so many different parts from? ZMZ-shny engine - 4 and 8 cylinders, but one diesel Uralovsky ... And in case of hostilities ???
        Military experience requires us to unify - and the industry is driving the devil knows what. There were earlier developments, there were good ones too - they selected the best from them and put them on the conveyor. In the end, it will turn out like in the First World War - 214 items of various vehicles ...
        1. Maksim...
          Maksim... 29 September 2014 18: 03
          +21
          Fully and absolutely support! good I sincerely do not understand our love for zoos (and desperate resistance with all my might to fight it). How did the "Tiger" not please them?
          1. cosmos111
            cosmos111 29 September 2014 18: 32
            +7
            Well, today, and the news ... one weight another am all the same, shopkeepers sold their d @ mobile in RA ...
            and unification, etc., and for which combat missions, is it needed ???
            all these tasks were blocked by the Tiger ...
            wanted to create a light armored vehicle ... for reconnaissance and specialists ... they WOULD modernize "Vodnik" or "WOLF" by removing excess armor ...
            who makes such decisions ???

            than Gazelle armored worse
            ??
            1. Koshak
              Koshak 29 September 2014 19: 21
              0
              Quote: cosmos111
              Well, today, and the news ... one weight another am all the same, shopkeepers sold their d @ mobile in RA ...
              and unification, etc., and for which combat missions, is it needed ???
              all these tasks were blocked by the Tiger ...
              wanted to create a light armored vehicle ... for reconnaissance and specialists ... they WOULD modernize "Vodnik" or "WOLF" by removing excess armor ...
              who makes such decisions ???

              Maybe MVDshnikam go? Like pickpockets to catch, drug traffickers and clandestine brothels. And in the markets of guest workers to drive, this car is generally no replacement.
              You can offer collectors.
              1. Lopatov
                Lopatov 29 September 2014 20: 14
                0
                Just for a "tiger" job.
            2. avt
              avt 29 September 2014 19: 22
              +2
              Quote: cosmos111
              wanted to create a light armored vehicle ... for reconnaissance and specialists ... they WOULD modernize "Vodnik" or "WOLF" by removing excess armor ...

              good Rather, "Vodnik" with the ability to swim.
              1. cosmos111
                cosmos111 29 September 2014 20: 19
                +3
                Quote: avt
                Rather, "Vodnik" with the ability to swim.

                GAZ-3937 "Vodnik", really super ... armored car ...

                with a penny modernization and modern dviglom and automatic transmission ... it WOULD be no worse than fancy JLTV and so on ... modular design ((((I'm already sick of the word "modular design")))
                1. RUSS
                  RUSS 29 September 2014 21: 28
                  0
                  Quote: cosmos111
                  GAZ-3937 "Vodnik", really super ... armored car ...


                  And what is super then? What floats? And that is all.....
                  1. cosmos111
                    cosmos111 29 September 2014 23: 31
                    0
                    Quote: RUSS
                    And what is super then? What floats? And that is all...

                    AND THAN NOT SUPER ???
                    modular, put any for any tasks, aft entry-exit, Btrovskaya suspension not killed ...
                    modernization...
                    1.V-shaped bottom and spaced bottom reservation ...
                    2.door from the driver's cabin to the combat compartment ...
                    3.good silencer and engine noise insulation ...
                    and yet, brought to mind-mass production ...
            3. Strezhevsky
              Strezhevsky 29 September 2014 19: 41
              +4
              A cheat on the iveco gazelle ???
              1. RUSS
                RUSS 30 September 2014 10: 52
                0
                Quote: Strezhevsky
                A cheat on the iveco gazelle ???


                Because it is not a gazelle, but IVECO.
            4. RUSS
              RUSS 29 September 2014 21: 26
              +1
              Quote: cosmos111
              than Gazelle armored worse ???


              The fact that it is a Gazelka is even worse, the engines are now at least Cummins, and so the "barn" on wheels .... "Barguzin" 4X4 pleases with permeability, but if it is hung with armor?
          2. net abortion
            net abortion 29 September 2014 18: 40
            +3
            Quote: Maxim ...
            I do not understand

            Alfa Bank probably involved in to punitive financing ...

            ===

            "For issuing Russian bank cards, one should be tried, since this is an open work for the enemy," Veremeenko is sure. "This is from the same series, if the Wehrmacht soldiers were offered to issue a savings bank account in the USSR Sberbank."
          3. avia1991
            avia1991 29 September 2014 23: 27
            0
            Quote: Maxim ...
            How did the "Tiger" not please them?

            As written, it is assumed that these vehicles will go to special forces, for use by small combat groups. "Tiger" can be "uncovered", lightened - but it will not be possible to reduce its size, and gluttony. A car of this class is useful for a narrow range of tasks - which is what it is intended for, and that is why it is produced in limited quantities. So that
            Quote: zeleznijdorojnik
            imagine yourself as a deputy battalion technotech

            most Zampotechs are not threatened yes
        2. svp67
          svp67 29 September 2014 18: 19
          +3
          Quote: zeleznijdorojnik
          In the end, it will turn out like in the First World War - 214 names of various automotive equipment ...
          No - in a couple of years the strongest will survive, after which he will be delivered to the troops. There is a phase of military tests ...
          1. zeleznijdorojnik
            zeleznijdorojnik 29 September 2014 18: 27
            +2
            "Tigers", "Lynx", "Hussars" in the army are already in large numbers, I will not lie about the "Wolf" - I rode one in the Murmansk region - at the border guards and it seems like in the Kirkenes brigade. "Sadko", "KAMAZ", "URALS" (all models are new) - too. It seems good of course, but ...
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        3. bistrov.
          bistrov. 29 September 2014 20: 01
          +3
          Quote: zeleznijdorojnik
          Imagine yourself as a deputy technical officer of a battalion that has GAZ "Tigers" and "Vodniks" with American diesel engines, KAMAZ "Typhoons" and "Bulats" (and they are in the army - I saw them myself), URAL "Typhoons", "Bear", Ivekovsky "Lynxes" ", this most unknown" Scorpio ",

          It turns out, as in the German-fascist "Wehrmacht" during the Second World War, there was also a huge number of cars of different brands and models, but these were forced circumstances, Germany crushed and forced all the automobile and arms factories in Europe, Renault and Citroen to work for itself , Skoda and Tatra, VIS, Cesko-Zbroevka and others, all plowed for the Reich. Because of this, unimaginable difficulties arose with the maintenance of equipment and the supply of spare parts, even the vaunted German accuracy and pedantry did not always help.In Russia there should be uniformity, both in weapons and in equipment, of course there is no need to have such a variety of light armored cars, as in Russian Army.
        4. RUSS
          RUSS 29 September 2014 21: 03
          +5
          Quote: zeleznijdorojnik
          You whatever you want - and I minus - until the army will be supplied with equipment from incomprehensible factories in the amount of several dozen, and not specially created for tasks, but deeply sawn civilian - where, fucking it, unification - imagine yourself as a deputy technician of a battalion that has GAZ Tigers "and" Vodniki "with American diesel engines, KAMAZ" Typhoons "and" Bulats "(and they are in the army - I saw them myself), URAL" Typhoons "," Bear ", Ivek" Lynx ", this most unknown" Scorpion ", yes the usual GAZ Sadko, KAMAZ, URALs are also loaded, and in storage there are also ZIL-130/131 with shishigs and 53 lawns - this is okay - where can you get so many different parts from? ZMZ-shny engine - 4 and 8 cylinders, but one diesel Uralovsky ... And in case of hostilities ???
          Military experience requires us to unify - and the industry is driving the devil knows what. There were earlier developments, there were good ones too - they selected the best from them and put them on the conveyor. In the end, it will turn out like in the First World War - 214 items of various vehicles ...


          "Bulat"piece goods are unlikely to go into production, they are going to be shoved abroad
          Iveco Serdyukov's "jamb", it's good that not all of the ordered amount was bought ... the rest of the purchased Iveco, as they say, will be thrown and abandoned.
          "Bear"not an army armored car, but a development for the Ministry of Internal Affairs.
          "Typhoons"competitors from KAMAZ and URAL are undergoing tests and one of them will be selected.
          "Wolf"this is a" continuation ""Tigra"possible replacement in the future.

          "Scorpio"positioned as a replacement for the army"UAZ"
          So where is the confusion and confusion here ??????
          1. Dimka off
            Dimka off 29 September 2014 22: 35
            +1
            Quote: RUSS
            Typhoons from KAMAZ and URAL are competitors undergoing tests and one of them will be selected.

            That even if there were Urals with Kamaz - both those and those excellent cars. The production of machines has been established for a very long time, so there will be no problems with spare parts.
        5. RUSS
          RUSS 29 September 2014 21: 30
          +1
          Quote: zeleznijdorojnik
          "Vodniki" with American diesels,


          With the adoption for the supply of the multipurpose vehicle "Tiger" the need for "Vodnik" disappeared. "Tiger" turned out to be better and more technologically advanced in all respects, more versatile. The concept of replaceable modules used in the Vodnik design has remained. Now it is being carried out during the creation of the Wolf family of multipurpose vehicles.
        6. priest58
          priest58 29 September 2014 22: 45
          0
          yes one diesel Uralovsky ..

          and diesel is not Uralovsky, but KAMAZ
          Midamation KamAZ-740
          1. zeleznijdorojnik
            zeleznijdorojnik 6 October 2014 00: 33
            0
            I won’t lie - I didn’t have a single KAMAZ in my unit, but the Urals - 370 and diesel ones. The commander went through Afghanistan and came up with the idea that a cabless truck in the conditions of a database, in particular road mining - a stupid branch and in the late 80s with some kind of makar - through the district, made sure that not a single KAMAZ remained in the unit, but in 90 and KAMAZ would be glad, but did not give anything ...
      3. sniper
        sniper 29 September 2014 18: 45
        +4
        Quote: kod3001
        Car Class!
        The car may be a class, though in my opinion the engine power could be more, especially in the armored version ... But the author is clearly in a hurry and pulls quotes from everywhere, according to the principle: "And so it will do ..."
        we are talking about "the army vehicles" Scorpion LSHA-1 "(LSHA - light assault vehicle) with an open top (awning),
        And almost immediately:
        Help from the military-industrial complex: "The mass of the" Scorpion ", depending on the modification, is 4,5-5,0 tons with a carrying capacity of up to 1,1 tons. The engine is a diesel with a capacity of 166 hp. The maximum speed is 130 km / h. The power reserve is 1000 km. Wheel formula - 4x4. Armor protection - protection of the passenger compartment, fuel tanks, batteries, engine compartment. The car is equipped with protection against small arms bullets in accordance with the 6th class of GOST and structures against detonation of explosive devices with a capacity of up to 600 grams in TNT equivalent.
        This is with an awning something ???
    2. enot73
      enot73 29 September 2014 17: 33
      +10
      Well, it turns out that we ourselves are able to do the technique normally. And for sure. better than "Serdyukov" foreign cars Iveco. which "master" only one RMB.
      1. URAL72
        URAL72 29 September 2014 18: 08
        +7
        - Are you considering the option of installing domestic engines? For example, YaMZ, which GAZ Group uses at Tigr-M?

        - YaMZ, in comparison with Andoria, is much heavier and larger. If you install it, you will have to change the layout of the Scorpion, and LSHA B will move to a more "heavy" class of cars. We, of course, focus on the use of domestic components, but sometimes they are not there, but you still need to make a car.

        The engine would still learn to do in the assortment, then we have everything on the side ...
        1. zoknyay82
          zoknyay82 29 September 2014 18: 32
          +2
          Andoria- Polish diesel, licensed, but it is interesting that he has our gearbox?
          1. bmv04636
            bmv04636 29 September 2014 18: 52
            +1
            NO gearbox and razdatka daimos is the same as on patra
      2. Lopatov
        Lopatov 29 September 2014 18: 24
        0
        Worse. But not by much.
      3. killganoff
        killganoff 29 September 2014 19: 42
        +3
        For your information, "Scorpion" is assembled from foreign components.
    3. ShturmKGB
      ShturmKGB 29 September 2014 17: 38
      0
      A Tiger competitor? It seems to look easier
      1. avt
        avt 29 September 2014 17: 48
        +2
        ShturmKGB
        A Tiger competitor? It seems to look easier

        Nope. He is in the class "Bobik" and rather an addition to him - there is not enough money to replace him.
        1. enot73
          enot73 29 September 2014 18: 00
          +3
          Quote: avt
          Nope. He is in the class "Bobik" and rather an addition to him - there is not enough money to replace him.
          There are also "hussars" on the base of the bobby.
          1. avt
            avt 29 September 2014 19: 06
            +2
            Quote: enot73
            There are also "hussars" on the base of the bobby.

            Like with a Toyota engine, but booking a Bobik ..... No. It was not originally designed for this. Do you need a car like this "Scorpion" massively in the army ??? I don't know, in my opinion, if you make an armored one, you need something more powerful and floating. Then it's clear - a patrol for border guards and a light traveling along the front edge, well, accompanied, although ... it will be watery, but there is no reason to do it less than Hammer - it is expensive and ineffective. But here it really is fashionable gadgets and a waste of money on trifles and certainly not an assault with an awning.
            1. avia1991
              avia1991 29 September 2014 23: 35
              0
              Quote: avt
              Do you need a car like this "Scorpion" massively in the army ???

              So nobody seems to talk about mass character! Given that they plan to equip special forces .. request
      2. Bassoon
        Bassoon 29 September 2014 17: 52
        +2
        ShturmKGB
        A Tiger competitor? It seems to look easier

        Rather, the old man UAZ. Honored Veteran's Time to Rest
        1. Kyrgyz
          Kyrgyz 29 September 2014 18: 10
          +1
          [quote = Fagot] [/ quote]
          Rather, the old man UAZ. Honored Veteran's Time for Peace [/ quote]
          Weight 4,5-5 tons which UAZ? It’s more like a tiger rival
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      3. Afinogen
        Afinogen 29 September 2014 18: 00
        +5
        ShturmKGB
        A Tiger competitor? It seems to look easier



        No, he is not a competitor to "Tiger". "Scorpion" is hlivy, the "Tiger" will be stronger.


      4. The Art of War
        The Art of War 29 September 2014 18: 04
        +4
        Weight is sometimes needed
      5. Lopatov
        Lopatov 29 September 2014 18: 26
        +2
        Still what ... "Tiger" with protection from explosions is not there until now. It's time for the Deripaskovskys to worry.

        Soon we will read a sea of ​​articles on the Internet about how bad the "Scorpio" is.
        1. The Art of War
          The Art of War 29 September 2014 18: 30
          +2
          There was a development, even at the interpolitech they showed the Tiger -6A and now they have quieted down recourse
          1. Lopatov
            Lopatov 29 September 2014 18: 35
            +2
            Quote: The Art of War
            showed Tiger -6A and now they have quieted down

            They were obliged to provide it two years ago for tests. Including undermining.
            But ... Shoigu replaced Serdyukov and canceled the competition with Iveco by a strong-willed decision.

            So why should they bother? And so they buy.
    4. Juborg
      Juborg 29 September 2014 17: 49
      +5
      Guys, what kind of skepticism? Great assault chariot, UAZ does not channel, maneuverability at a level, speed too, plus protection. This is not dill freaks with dubious armor in the form of rusty steel sheets, but tested, run-in, shot and past fire, water and copper pipes, full-fledged armor units. Such equipment should enter the army like hot cakes, this is not only patrolling, but also the transfer of personnel, intelligence.
      1. zeleznijdorojnik
        zeleznijdorojnik 29 September 2014 18: 03
        +4
        Not impressed. Coffin on wheels. Everyone is trying to make their own "hummer". It turns out that something in profile is shed, gluttonous and heavy, while a 12,7 mm bullet or pah-pah-pah does not save the consequences of the use of weapons of mass destruction from a serious detonation. Is it really impossible to clearly and clearly separate - flies separately - cutlets separately - heavy armored equipment - for battle and a light, fast, low vehicle for all other tasks - to put a more powerful engine on the same UAZ, to cut something like a TPK ...
        1. Kyrgyz
          Kyrgyz 29 September 2014 18: 20
          +3
          Quote: zeleznijdorojnik
          Not impressed. Coffin on wheels. Everyone is trying to make their own "hummer". It turns out that something in profile is shed, gluttonous and heavy, while a 12,7 mm bullet or pah-pah-pah does not save the consequences of the use of weapons of mass destruction from a serious detonation. Is it really impossible to clearly and clearly separate - flies separately - cutlets separately - heavy armored equipment - for battle and a light, fast, low vehicle for all other tasks - to put a more powerful engine on the same UAZ, to cut something like a TPK ...

          The article talks about mine protection and protection against napalm plus armor from 5,45mm, it is quite worthy to move in a conflict zone. The UAZ is firewood, there is a lot of things to replace so that it travels more often than it’s got over by conscripts a little already, but UAZ is a staff car outside the conflict zone, any production car is suitable for its role, you can’t transfer everyone to tigers and scorpions, and it’s eating I’ll break through the five-ton. With unification it’s really strange, it seems like they talked so much about it and again issued
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        3. AndreyS
          AndreyS 29 September 2014 19: 22
          +3
          And you yourself didn’t try to ride when you get a lot of fire from small arms, and you are sitting in UAZ with 2nd class protection and there is not much space inside it, especially in equipment! So, in this case, a scorpion is a pretty good machine for its class (booking class 6 is 4-5 tons, UAZ Hunter has 2 bookings of reservation of about 4 tons, and in the Tiger 5 booking class is 8.5 tons, and the booking is the same). So, put yourself in place and imagine how you will feel. By the way, the 2nd class of reservations from bullets of TT, PM pistols, etc., the 5th grade from bullets of a Kalashinikov assault rifle and SVD (not armor-piercing), the 6th class from bullets of AK, SVD, PC armor-piercing. Yes, but the Hammers generally ..., like Iveco with their modular reservations.
          1. Lopatov
            Lopatov 29 September 2014 20: 26
            +1
            Quote: AndreyS
            and you are in UAZ with protection of the 2nd class

            And why not in the BMP or armored personnel carrier?
            1. PSih2097
              PSih2097 29 September 2014 22: 45
              +1
              Quote: Spade
              And why not in the BMP or armored personnel carrier?

              something recently, I did not see the infantry in the BTR, I saw on the BTR ...
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      3. Koshak
        Koshak 29 September 2014 19: 32
        0
        Quote: juborg
        Guys, what kind of skepticism? Great assault chariot, UAZ does not channel, maneuverability at a level, speed too, plus protection. This is not dill freaks with dubious armor in the form of rusty steel sheets, but tested, run-in, shot and past fire, water and copper pipes, full-fledged armor units. Such equipment should enter the army like hot cakes, this is not only patrolling, but also the transfer of personnel, intelligence.

        And that everyone is obsessed with the army? The Ministry of Internal Affairs, the FSB also have special forces.
    5. Korvin1000
      Korvin1000 29 September 2014 20: 06
      +1
      Nothing in appearance. For me: nothing of value. We need to know about the price, performance characteristics.
      Maybe money down the drain?
      And what does "Tiger" dislike?
      1. Lopatov
        Lopatov 29 September 2014 20: 27
        +2
        Quote: Korvin1000
        And what does "Tiger" dislike?

        Of roads.
        It has no protection against explosions.
  2. builder
    builder 29 September 2014 17: 23
    +5
    The militias in Novorossia would have come in handy.
    1. svp67
      svp67 29 September 2014 17: 35
      +4
      Quote: stroitel
      The militias in Novorossia would have come in handy.
      Yes, a lot where, in the same Syria or Iraq, they would definitely find work ...
    2. Kyrgyz
      Kyrgyz 29 September 2014 18: 22
      +1
      Quote: stroitel
      The militias in Novorossia would have come in handy.

      They themselves will get Hammers and Cossacks
  3. Vend
    Vend 29 September 2014 17: 23
    +9
    And I liked the good design. The civil version will be interesting? "Tiger" eats a lot, but this one is how economical?
    1. novobranets
      novobranets 29 September 2014 17: 45
      +4
      I wonder what engine is on Scorpio. If it is overseas, then the production will be vulnerable, at any moment the monkey can block their (engines) supply.
  4. Giant thought
    Giant thought 29 September 2014 17: 23
    +1
    The characteristics seem to be quite good, but now we need to see how it will show itself during operation in the army.
  5. Baloo
    Baloo 29 September 2014 17: 25
    +3
    For police operations or in troops. If the troops, then definitely a scorpion.
  6. lexx2038
    lexx2038 29 September 2014 17: 26
    +2
    The bad thing is that the soldier is sticking out from above.
  7. Ivanzloj
    Ivanzloj 29 September 2014 17: 26
    +5
    I want this!
  8. Andrey Yuryevich
    Andrey Yuryevich 29 September 2014 17: 27
    +7
    that something in between a "hummer" and a combat "buggy" will undoubtedly find application in the troops, by the way we really lacked just such non-standard equipment, it has its own niche. my opinion + yes
  9. asar
    asar 29 September 2014 17: 27
    +3
    Good luck! Let the "real" be appreciated! Although, at first glance, it seems like nothing A typewriter!
    Only one But - the shooter is in no way protected! It would be necessary to think over protection of the fighter! But at first glance - only +!
  10. vodolaz
    vodolaz 29 September 2014 17: 27
    +3
    UAZ is certainly a good car, but everything changes and develops.
  11. raid14
    raid14 29 September 2014 17: 27
    +3
    The thing in the troops is very in demand, mobility, fire support, protection against small arms on the march.
  12. mik0588
    mik0588 29 September 2014 17: 28
    +5
    "Scorpio LSHA" = Lesha smile
  13. Krsk
    Krsk 29 September 2014 17: 29
    0
    What about the tank? adversaries don't shoot at tanks?
  14. Starover_Z
    Starover_Z 29 September 2014 17: 30
    +2
    A kind of replacement for the "UAZ"? And what, it seems, is not a bad option.
  15. Megatron
    Megatron 29 September 2014 17: 32
    +4
    Current state-of-the-art Cooper rubber, is there an option with ours?
  16. Mama_Cholli
    Mama_Cholli 29 September 2014 17: 33
    +3
    I want this "Gelek" (Gelendvagen) for everyday use.
    1. DRA-88
      DRA-88 29 September 2014 17: 37
      +3
      Quote: Mama_Cholli
      I want this "Gelek" (Gelendvagen) for everyday use.


      And fishing is good for mushrooms ..... and for women !!! laughing
      1. Mama_Cholli
        Mama_Cholli 29 September 2014 17: 41
        +6
        Quote: DRA-88
        Quote: Mama_Cholli
        I want this "Gelek" (Gelendvagen) for everyday use.


        And fishing is good for mushrooms ..... and for women !!! laughing

        Not in the literal sense of course ... It's a pity for the women.)))
        1. DRA-88
          DRA-88 29 September 2014 17: 58
          +1
          Quote: Mama_Cholli
          Not in the literal sense of course ... It's a pity for the women.)))

          So push why ??? !!! laughing laughing laughing

          PS. I forgot quite after 22 or until 11 for a "kerosene" great ride!
      2. builder
        builder 29 September 2014 19: 38
        +1
        Quote: DRA-88
        And fishing is good for mushrooms ..... and for women !!!

        and traffic jams
  17. Magic archer
    Magic archer 29 September 2014 17: 34
    +4
    The main thing is to do without foreign components. And you yourself know what this threatens us with. But in general, a great car! It is very necessary in the army!
    1. fzr1000
      fzr1000 29 September 2014 17: 43
      +4
      Do you know the domestic diesel engine with 166 hp? Me not. And the Poles from the Andoria company know very well. And the gearbox is Korean, "Daimos". The bridges, in my opinion, are ours. Although I like the machine.
      1. Anatole Klim
        Anatole Klim 29 September 2014 17: 49
        +2
        Quote: fzr1000
        Do you know domestic diesel in 166 hp? Me not.

        For two years on "VO" there was an article about these "Scorpions", then they honestly wrote that the Andoria engine, now nothing, unless the Poles will supply engines for military equipment, didn’t we have it?
      2. Magic archer
        Magic archer 29 September 2014 17: 53
        +3
        sorry .... I hope to solve this problem. For example, buy a license.
    2. andrejwz
      andrejwz 29 September 2014 17: 53
      +2
      Quote: Magic Archer
      The main thing is to do without foreign components. And you yourself know what this threatens us with. But in general, a great car! It is very necessary in the army!

      And here, just, in the engine the dog is buried.
  18. Dragon-y
    Dragon-y 29 September 2014 17: 37
    0
    Our answer to the Hummers?
    1. Steel loli
      Steel loli 29 September 2014 17: 48
      0
      Hammer's answer was "Tiger". Both in weight and in design and price.
    2. Steel loli
      Steel loli 29 September 2014 17: 48
      +1
      Hammer's answer was "Tiger". Both in weight and in design and price.
  19. Everest2014
    Everest2014 29 September 2014 17: 45
    +4
    Googled about this car, this is what the networks brought: "UAZ Scorpio. Created on the basis of UAZ-3159 (Bars)." Buy a batch of intel processors, relabel them "everest2014" and sell it pretentiously directly from the basement.
  20. Ivan 63
    Ivan 63 29 September 2014 17: 47
    0
    Speed ​​and mobility is what you need (if only for the militia, to wet Ukrainians).
  21. 33 Watcher
    33 Watcher 29 September 2014 17: 48
    +1
    Yes, it will not be easier, Hammer’s answer is a tiger, but rather a replacement for the UAZs.
  22. klerick02
    klerick02 29 September 2014 17: 48
    +1
    It’s better painted here
    http://vpk.name/news/101231_skorpion2m__specialnaya_armeiskaya_mashina_postupit_
    na_vooruzhenie_rossiiskim_voennyim.html
  23. BOB044
    BOB044 29 September 2014 17: 54
    +1
    Pleased with such news. It’s nice to realize that the army is not forgotten. And in a non-stagnant Cossack go to the front line. The country of fat eaters.
  24. Bayonet
    Bayonet 29 September 2014 17: 55
    +4
    Light assault vehicle - Scorpio-LSHA - multifunctional special off-road vehicle.

    It is suitable for transporting personnel of up to 8 people, delivering goods, conducting reconnaissance, conducting special ground operations, evacuating and transporting the wounded, towing trailers and weapons, as well as solving other problems. Installation of fixation systems for the installation of various types of weapons is possible. Suitable for operation on roads of all categories, in any climatic conditions. Equipped with a fully independent suspension, has pronounced off-road qualities.

    It can be used as an operational and service vehicle during special operations, escorting and guarding transport convoys, patrolling, conducting reconnaissance events and performing territorial defense tasks. Meets transportation requirements in the Mi-8 helicopter.

    It was presented at the RAE-2013 exhibition. In September 2013, army trials were completed.

    The options are:
    Scorpion LSHA-1 - open top
    Scorpion LSHA-2 - with a hard metal top
    Scorpion LSHA-2B - armored car
    Protection
    The armored version has protection class 5 according to GOST R 50963–96. A set of mounted armor panels can be installed that increases the protection class to 6A according to GOST R 50963–96

    Protected against undermining of explosive devices - up to 600 g of TNT explosive.

    Привод
    The machine is driven by a diesel engine. Transmission - manual, 5-speed, transfer case - 2-speed. Suspension - independent, with shock absorbers and anti-roll bars. Brakes - disc.

    Basic equipment
    Mounts for installing additional equipment
    Power steering
    Self-extracting winch
    Front and rear tow hooks
    Full size spare tire
    Optional equipment
    Mounts for the installation of upper weapons
    Mounts for weapons and ammunition in the passenger compartment
    Navigation system
    Video surveillance system
    Engine compartment fire extinguishing system
    Air conditioning
    Filtering unit
    Skylight
    Warp coloring
    By agreement, other optional equipment may be installed.
    Features
    Property
    Value
    Length, mm
    4890
    Width
    2150
    Height, mm
    2187
    Wheelbase, mm
    3050
    Track mm
    1784
    Weight, kg
    5000
    Load capacity, kg
    600
    Crew
    2
    Landing force
    6
    Motor Power, hp
    166
    The maximum moment, Nm
    300
    Maximum speed on the highway, km / h
    130
    Cruising on the highway, km
    1000
    Number of wheels
    4
    Number of drive wheels
    4
    Fuel capacity, l
    150
  25. RAE8
    RAE8 29 September 2014 18: 03
    +3
    It seems that there is a renaissance of armored vehicles. Only, in comparison with many (non-American) BAs of the 2MB era, this one has the worst bulletproof body contours and the lack of protection for the shooter.
  26. kotyara
    kotyara 29 September 2014 18: 06
    +1
    I did not understand, why did he have a tank that is not protected by anything? What would be easier to set fire to?
  27. Viktor Kudinov
    Viktor Kudinov 29 September 2014 18: 11
    +2
    Quote: Mama_Cholli
    I want this "Gelek" (Gelendvagen) for everyday use.

    I want it too, but I can’t afford it.
  28. 1-ST Engineer
    1-ST Engineer 29 September 2014 18: 17
    +1
    Yes, it is necessary that they are let out into private hands - the more the production of cars, the cheaper the production. Give for a place Lada ....
  29. Stinger
    Stinger 29 September 2014 18: 20
    0
    On such a good ride to defrauded equity holders to knock out debts.
    1. KBR109
      KBR109 29 September 2014 21: 54
      0
      Unfortunately no ! For them, a tank with a powerful weapon or an SPG is better. "Buratino" would also do ...
  30. Woolfy
    Woolfy 29 September 2014 18: 25
    +1
    As you look at the news in the army and special services, you sit on arms and equipment and think, well, why the pension did you come am would serve and still serve !!!!! Thanks to the developers and manufacturers! Let those who come to the service feel the progress ...
  31. Major Yurik
    Major Yurik 29 September 2014 18: 30
    +1
    Quote: BOB044
    Pleased with such news. It’s nice to realize that the army is not forgotten. And in a non-stagnant Cossack go to the front line. The country of fat eaters.


    Why are there two silencers on the new KhokhloTavria? So that when it dies, lift it behind them behind and roll on like a wheelbarrow. Sala dill.wassat
  32. ilya_oz
    ilya_oz 29 September 2014 18: 54
    +3
    As for me, so disgusting news. Why do we need another jeep? Is there a little tiger? Need unification.
  33. bmv04636
    bmv04636 29 September 2014 18: 55
    +2
    LSHA
    Andoria engine (Poland) or Kamenz (China-USA)
    PPC razdatka daimos (China Korea)
    Independent suspension based on Ford F-250 front suspension (USA)
    so how much is he
  34. awersa
    awersa 29 September 2014 18: 57
    0
    This machine was sorely lacking in our special equipment, for mobility ... now it will not be necessary to rumble on Beter, but for all that it’s not bad, but with a breeze soldier
  35. SAM 5
    SAM 5 29 September 2014 19: 04
    +2
    As I understand it, the bourgeois components: engine. - Polatsky, box - Korean, razdatka finally pen.dosskaya.
  36. pvv113
    pvv113 29 September 2014 19: 36
    +3
    Military tests will show the weaknesses and the expediency of further supply of "Scorpions" to the troops. It is quite possible that the machine will be relevant in the light of the tasks being solved
  37. AlNikolaich
    AlNikolaich 29 September 2014 20: 25
    +1
    Protection anneals recently ...
    Then the Israelis will buy a license for buggies, then this is a miracle
    were born ... Somehow, about a year and a half ago, I studied Zashchitovsky
    constructive. Did not impress!
    On fig their devices are not needed. Engineering is no easy!
    1. Lopatov
      Lopatov 29 September 2014 20: 34
      +2
      But the "Protection" has experienced its "Scorpion" undermining. At own expense.

      Although, "tiger" is certainly better. Because it is produced by an enterprise owned by Deripaska. And his paw will be hairier. Look, "Lynx" they have already fenced. Now the "Scorpion" will be taken.

      Because there is nothing here ... There are things more important than the life and health of the military. For example, income.
  38. Massik
    Massik 29 September 2014 21: 17
    +1
    Eh still a controlled turret with a cord would, well, at least shields on the front of the fire. So stupidly one ricochet on the upper part of the body and the machine gunner dives to the bottom, desperate for death are rarely found
  39. Mol
    Mol 29 September 2014 22: 22
    0
    Interesting car. But what I don’t understand is that the “upper circles” seem to be broadcasting about the need for unification, the “upper circles” are trumpeting about the need to create, implement, and acquire domestic developments, about independence from supplies from other countries, which is vital for the Russian Federation, especially in the military-industrial complex. And everything seems to be true - the war in Ukraine, Western sanctions, bans on the supply of various equipment, the situation with the Mistrals - clearly showed the need to "get off the import needle." But why is it again a car for the Russian law enforcement agencies with a bunch of imported components ?! Imagine that in the near future, 100-200 (at least) such vehicles were delivered to the Russian troops. And suddenly! This armored car will light up somewhere in Novorossiya! Or Bashar al-Assad! Well, what a howl can a well-crafted mass media raise the Western public when it learns that the "oppressors of freedom" travel by cars, the components for which are supplied from the countries-champions of "true universal democracy" ?! Manufacturers will stop supplying spare parts, not giving a damn about contracts. What then? Will "Scorpions" stand for eternal joke? The manufacturer will start frantically looking for a replacement for foreign parts, sculpting what will have to be done on the machines? request
  40. Severomor
    Severomor 30 September 2014 00: 21
    0
    I understand something, but that all the names from the good "flora" are over? Acacia, Carnation, Tulip well, very nice to hear.
    And here on you - "scorpion". Baba Yaga is against! wink
  41. Wolka
    Wolka 30 September 2014 05: 25
    +1
    it’s beautiful from the outside, but here’s how it’s, for the armored version it seems the engine will be rather weak, you need about 200-250 horses ...
  42. Gorvas
    Gorvas 30 September 2014 07: 48
    +1
    something, this scorpion reminds me of a Mercedes-Gelendvagen, is it not from the German spare parts whether the scorpion is, and how much will it cost then?
  43. zavesa01
    zavesa01 30 September 2014 12: 52
    0
    In my opinion, the UAZ 3271 is a normal replacement and you don't need to shaggy your grandmother. As an opera machine is nowhere better. And this? 5 tons !!!! If you sit down, what to pull out? Run after the tank? And naturally unification !!!! They stand like planes, are repaired at a service station, they eat like a small thermal power station. Remember the USSR "Volyn" was made as a TPL INSTEAD OF UAZ because UAZ ROAD. How much can you poke into the army every city but. Russia is NOT a colonial power. We do not have Papuan colonies; accordingly, colonial troops and weapons for them are not needed. What is its price? And the cost of 300 thousand pieces, their service? With proper application of technology and losses will be minimal. And if you take an assault on fortified armored vehicles, then there’s nothing to shout about poor booking.