US defenders intend to create tanks that will avoid enemy attacks

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Over the last century ability weapons piercing armor developed faster than the ability of armor to provide reliable protection, according to the release of the American defense agency DARPA. Now, the agency has taken up the development of new types of military equipment, which will lose weight and become faster, which will allow it to evade enemy attacks and not test its armor. It is reported online edition Gearmix.



To this end, the agency launched the program "Ground X-Vehicle Technology", through which the following tasks should be solved: “Reduce the size and weight of modern tanks half; double the speed of their movement; and halve the number of crew they need to operate. ”. In addition, the developers want to ensure that “the armored vehicles created can overcome 95 percent of any landscapes they encounter, including various hills and elevations”.

DARPA claims that it will take 2 of the year to develop such technologies. After that, the agency will be able to conclude a contract for the creation of radically new cars.
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  1. +24
    20 August 2014 12: 06
    Now the agency has taken on the development of new types of military equipment that will lose weight and become faster, which will allow it to dodge enemy attacks and not test its armor for strength
    here I would like to recall the words of one of our tank designers, who told the truth about the T80: "... high speed is good, but it's not a fact that after leaving one blow, you won't move to the place where another was applied, so don't forget about armor ... "
    And as an "antidote" to this American novelty - homing anti-aircraft missiles ... So, in order to "avoid" it is better for him to "run deep into the rear", and it is better not to appear at the front line, although in the rear there is already something to get it ...
    1. +7
      20 August 2014 12: 09
      The main thing is that they don’t forget Dolce and Gobana to invite, so that their mobile crematorium is beautiful, and then all sorts of things ... from ATGMs it will not be interesting to burn.
      1. +9
        20 August 2014 12: 21
        This means a large increase in the amount of electronics to compensate for the decrease in crew. And such electronics will need to be additionally shielded so that this tank does not turn into a pile of scrap metal.
        The simpler the device, the more difficult it is to break it.
        1. +4
          20 August 2014 12: 56
          The crew of 3 people halved - it’s like, it turns out one and a half tanker, it’s interesting to leave Bosko or a seat ... wassat
          1. +9
            20 August 2014 13: 02
            There is no loader in the abrams, and they have 4 people there, including a Negro - loader :)
            1. +5
              20 August 2014 13: 59
              Negro will leave, love laughing
          2. +1
            20 August 2014 13: 07
            Quote: Gorbtk
            The crew of 3 people halved - it’s like, it turns out one and a half tanker,


            well kag-be they have not 3 people in the tank, you forgot the Negro-loader.
      2. +2
        20 August 2014 12: 23
        Quote: Sakhalininets
        The main thing is that they do not forget Dolce and Gobana to invite, so that their mobile crematorium is beautiful

        The song is like this: "The main thing is that the suit is sitting ..."
      3. +6
        20 August 2014 12: 34
        A good initiative from the Communist Party:
        To prohibit the performance in Russia of artists supporting the punitive operation of the junta in the Donbass

        Musicians and other artists of Russia and Ukraine such as Makarevich, Noize-MC, Ruslana and the like, in fact, support the punitive operation of the Kiev junta in the Donbass. Whether they do it for ideological reasons or because of money is equally criminal in relation to Russian civilization and the Russian people.
        Take three minutes to leave your vote! If you, of course, are not a fan of Makarevich and Ruslana.
        Already 30 "for"
        http://ni.kprf.ru/n/2646/
        1. +2
          20 August 2014 14: 46
          Alex.
          I urge respectful of someone's opinion.
          If we stop honoring laws, we will slide to the level of Ukraine.
          If a person is to blame for something, then he must be judged by the laws, and not by emotions.
          Makar, if I'm not mistaken, sang for refugees from Donbas who moved to Ukraine, and not for Bandera.
      4. 0
        20 August 2014 13: 26
        Quote: Sakhalininets
        The main thing is that they don’t forget Dolce and Gobana to invite, so that their mobile crematorium is beautiful, and then all sorts of things ... from ATGMs it will not be interesting to burn.

        Like in the old joke: at the time of World War II, the Fuhrer is shown a new 2mm armor tank, 200mm gun, 127 speeds-5 back, 4 forward. The Fuhrer says well, but why 1 forward ?!
        1. 0
          20 August 2014 17: 56
          intend to create tanks that will avoid enemy attacks

          They do everything right. With high speed and the ability to move around complex terrain, you can quickly escape away from the front line. In the deep operational depths, they will definitely avoid direct enemy attacks. laughing
      5. 0
        20 August 2014 16: 06
        Pindocnya, who does not have a serious military history and great undeniable national victories, did not understand the main concept of any war:
        "The war is being waged to destroy the enemy's manpower, first of all. The destruction of military-technical means, warehouses, communications is just an accompanying task.
        After the destruction of the enemy's manpower, the occupation of the enemy's territory and the destruction of his economy follows. "
        So the war of robots and fast-running and jumping tanks is a technological competition. They do not solve the main task of the war - the destruction of manpower - human biomass, as a condition for final victory.
    2. +9
      20 August 2014 12: 10
      So let them finish their dog)))


      But for me it’s so easy to add fragments to the shells and hi will try to dodge them! The next nonsense in general!
      1. +2
        20 August 2014 12: 51
        Quote: Login_Off
        But for me it’s so easy to add fragments to the shells and hi will try to dodge them! The next nonsense in general!

        From fragments enough light armor is enough, but what is the nonsense of transport robots in your photo?
        1. +1
          20 August 2014 14: 07
          Quote: saturn.mmm
          and what is the delusionality of transport robots in your photo?
          In principle, the idea is not crazy, but if you look, there are global flaws. Where do these robots have a center of gravity? If you lay it on its side, how will it rise? What is cross in swampy places or sand? Elements of the hydraulic drive (in particular, the high pressure hoses and hydraulic cylinders are not protected (it’s enough to get out of the bow), if you solve this problem by overhanging the additional armor, the structure itself will become heavier, which entails (if we consider a closed hydraulic system).
          1. The increase in pressure in the system, as resistance to the vector increases by the length and weight of the lever.
          2. As a result of p1, the flow of hydraulic fluid increases - a more efficient pump is needed (accordingly, its dimensions will increase).
          3. as a result of xNUMX, a more powerful pump drive is needed (another plus to the dimensions)
          4. As a result, the 3 needs more powerful batteries.
          You can continue for a long time, but in the end you get a monster from the Star Wars episode 4. Now the main question. Does anyone need him?
          1. +3
            20 August 2014 15: 12
            Quote: Armata
            Now the main question. Does anyone need him?

            Here is a video, I think after watching some of your questions will disappear.
            1. +1
              20 August 2014 15: 27
              can run and faster (another model seems)

            2. +1
              20 August 2014 15: 38
              Quote: saturn.mmm
              Here is a video, I think after watching some of your questions will disappear.
              I read about this unit in more detail. The questions have not been answered; only more have appeared. If they write that it has an 2 beat B&S on it, Brixes do not make 2 beat, 16 hydraulic drives are unprotected, it will devalue this machine so much, with its own weight 110kg, the net weight is 154kg (not enough). They didn’t really show anything, well, the slope is up to 35 degrees, well, it’s on the ice, but the question was how it behaves in the marsh terrain and in quicksand. So the question of expediency has not been removed.
              1. +1
                20 August 2014 16: 15
                1) Everything is perfectly shown in the video, where the person will pass, the sample will also pass, and besides, they will improve passability.

                2) Why would he need a reservation, NOT going to ride on it to fight, this is transport for goods (food, ammunition, medicine) of the separation level. For rear support there is wheeled transport and helicopter of larger units.

                3) Horses / mules / donkeys also weigh a lot and carry not very much - they have always been used. Especially in difficult terrain.
                The advantage is that this drone follows the owner and executes all his commands - lie down, calm down, run away, go somewhere, stop. And not afraid of shooting.
              2. +1
                20 August 2014 16: 20
                Quote: Armata
                I read about this unit in more detail. Questions have not been answered, only more has appeared.

                You are just like German generals in the First World War. Those, too, turned their nose from the first tanks. Like a useless thing, and then .... Give time everything will be. I think the thing is useful, we would also do well to do.
            3. 0
              20 August 2014 20: 30
              Quote: saturn.mmm
              Quote: Armata
              Now the main question. Does anyone need him?

              Here is a video, I think after watching some of your questions will disappear.



              Sensible car, it’s a pity that it’s not ours ...
    3. 0
      20 August 2014 12: 13
      A waste of money and time, the only thing that will be useful for such machines is the speed of movement during the retreat, but they will not be created for this.
      1. +2
        20 August 2014 12: 26
        Aha! Supernova American developments for solving "supernova problems"!;))))
        America's strategic retreat armament - SOVA)))
        Run away, hide "unipolar", so that you are looking for! am
    4. +6
      20 August 2014 12: 17
      [quote = svp67] [quote] Now the agency has taken on the development of new types of military equipment that will lose weight and become faster, which will allow it to dodge enemy attacks and not test its armor strength [/ quote]

      how is it in American ... or maybe it’s easier ... why the heck is such military equipment needed ... maybe immediately captured?
      1. +4
        20 August 2014 12: 24
        Quote: vorobey
        why the heck such military equipment is generally needed ... maybe immediately captured?

        It is still necessary to catch up with her. If only in a stall to drive. what
        1. 0
          20 August 2014 12: 53
          It is still necessary to catch up with her. If only in a stall to drive.
          Dodging threats, she herself from the stall, sorry, boxing will not come out. Like a naughty dog ​​in the booth, he will sit and answer all the attempts of the mechanics: "Nope. It's scary there. They'll be deceived."
      2. 0
        20 August 2014 13: 00
        Why captive? They will run away from the battlefield themselves, even tankers will catapult.
    5. 0
      20 August 2014 12: 45
      and they at the "light elves" will move at the speed of light.
      And it will come out as always with ravings.
    6. +1
      20 August 2014 12: 45
      Now they themselves will run along the humanitarian corridor to Russia?))
    7. +6
      20 August 2014 12: 50
      Eh, what a phrase: "who will avoid attacks." Generally a song. And to this:
      2020 year. Afghanistan. In the area of ​​Kabul, a base of American troops Through the checkpoint, an entire shabby Hummer enters, from which a shabby lieutenant of the American army falls out and addresses the guard: - Is this the Charlie base? - Yes, sir! - Are there any tanks? - Yes, sir! - A new modification?, Otherwise the old Abrams Fanatics have already burned. - Yes, sir, the newest! - I need at least about six. - Not possible sir! This is the latest modification, they cannot support you and generally fight! - Why? - So they're just to avoid attacks! - What is it like? - Everything is simple! If you need to quickly dump without firing a single shot, then they will do! - Oh, mom, give birth to me back. The curtain! laughing
    8. Russian1974
      +2
      20 August 2014 13: 04
      Yes tries armor if there are no people in the tanks and the tanks themselves will be small squat and fast soldier
    9. +1
      20 August 2014 13: 06
      Quote: svp67
      ... here I would like to recall the words of one of our tank designers, who told the truth about the T80: "... high speed is good, but it's not a fact that after leaving one blow, you won't move to the place where another was applied, so about armor do not forget ... "
      And as an "antidote" to this American novelty - homing anti-aircraft missiles ... So, in order to "avoid" it is better for him to "run deep into the rear", and it is better not to appear at the front line, although in the rear there is already something to get it ...

      In my opinion, this was already in the USSR. BT and T-34 tanks, there was also a concept, the bulletproof booking, and there you’ll get speed and horseradish. History clearly judged - only the T-34 survived.
      1. 0
        20 August 2014 16: 30
        Quote: Max Otto
        History clearly judged - only the T-34 survived

        And here is the story? A huge amount of BT-shek was burned in the oncoming battles trying to fend off the blow. They died stupid, though not entirely pointless. With proper use, they could well fight up to 45 years. Do not forget about the T-60, T-70 and T-80, also light tanks like BT. They fought well. By the way, in the war with Japan, they showed what they are capable of, those that remained in the Far East BT-7 were used very successfully. We learned how to fight pancake.
        1. 0
          20 August 2014 17: 29
          Well, maybe it is, Japan had nothing to oppose. But on the German front it was. And light tanks were more used as now BMP or BRDM - support and patrol. Imagine if there were no T-34 in the USSR, you could immediately forget about tank troops.
    10. 0
      20 August 2014 13: 13
      Hmm ... The Americans decided to watch a campaign of star wars ... Experiment !!! Flag in their hands !!!
    11. +1
      20 August 2014 13: 30
      Runaway tank - original! Their "abrams", advancing, which means escaping (beating).
      In general, while this is a utopia, taking into account smart shells and missiles, if an aircraft with its frantic speed cannot dodge them, then ground-based equipment, and even more so, it should at least not travel, but fly above the surface in all directions. Something like this.
    12. +2
      20 August 2014 13: 38
      And yet, the philosophy of Russian tank building turned out to be more correct laughing Our tanks are low silhouette, maneuverability, less weight, less crew, shorter Russians rule! wink
    13. 0
      20 August 2014 17: 46
      US defenders intend to create tanks that will avoid enemy attacks

      Chubais, in his nano-agency, has long created tanks that can not only dodge attacks, but hide in crevices, in mole and mouse minks, and other holes.
    14. 0
      20 August 2014 17: 52
      Even the reluctance to discuss in all seriousness. Well, the Yankees have seen enough of their own avatars, and even learned how to competently milk the state, the flag is in their hands!
    15. 0
      21 August 2014 04: 57
      Quote: svp67
      And as an "antidote" to this American novelty - homing anti-aircraft missiles ...

      The weapon of the future is a lot of relatively small and cheap ammunition, operating on the principle of "smart swarm". First of all, this will manifest itself as always at sea, why super-high-speed and super-expensive anti-ship missiles, if you can launch one, two simple carriers - which, upon approach, will release fifty submunitions (too small for anti-aircraft artillery), which in turn will surround the "victim" and strike at once from all sides on weapons installations, radars and wheelhouses. Then you can go up and drown the blind and unarmed from a machine gun. And then it will reach the ground forces.
      In 100 years, a technique (except for carriers) larger than a mini-UAV will become an anachronism, battles will be - a robotic swarm against a robotic swarm.
  2. +8
    20 August 2014 12: 07
    Another "cut" of the American budget. Money down the drain, well done!
  3. +10
    20 August 2014 12: 07
    Running away tank. This is a masterpiece in military affairs!
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    2. +2
      20 August 2014 12: 24
      And most importantly, not new. The Japanese in World War II, due to their orientation toward landing from the water of their entire army, made light fast tanks. As a result of the military history, almost nothing is known about the victories of Japanese tankers wink
      1. 0
        20 August 2014 13: 30
        In abrams, charging negros. In Ferguson, they rebelled against the fact that it is difficult for them to constantly "charge" and would like to "steer" already. And they are being shot at. In short, in Ferguson, veterans of the American nergo troops "loading special forces" revolted. and Obama does not realize that show the grenade to the monkey and she will freak out if you don’t give this toy into her paws.
    3. 0
      20 August 2014 13: 37
      Quote: muginov2015
      Running away tank. This is a masterpiece in military affairs!

      Interestingly, they will be consumed by the laser pointer?
      In Russia, so far only such a thing has been patented:
      http://www.freepatent.ru/patents/2324137
    4. +5
      20 August 2014 14: 59
      Quote: muginov2015
      Running away tank. This is a masterpiece in military affairs!

      Why don't they make underground tanks right away? He buried himself in the ground and "look for fistulas":
      1. 0
        21 August 2014 05: 02
        Quote: СРЦ П-15
        And why do not they immediately make underground tanks?

        They tried it in the USSR, there are several fundamental problems that cannot be solved at this stage of technological development (heat removal during cooling of a power plant, case overheating, low speed, high acoustic signature).
  4. Aydar
    +10
    20 August 2014 12: 07
    a tank-man will exhaust the enemy with fast flea-style jumps and an annoying buzz to drive the enemy crew crazy.
    1. +1
      20 August 2014 13: 32
      In 1916, when the first British tanks Mark 1 appeared on the battlefield of World War I, there was a legend among the Russian military that the tank is a large wunderwafle on wheels, which can climb trees and the crew in it is 100 a man of pilots devoid of nerves, and built by the British in Japan.
  5. +2
    20 August 2014 12: 07
    The following tasks should be solved: “reduce the size and weight of modern tanks by half; double the speed of their movement; and halve the number of crew they need to operate. ”

    And also teach you to sit around the corner and not protrude. smile
    1. 0
      20 August 2014 12: 55
      and halve the number of crew they need to operate
      This is especially important for cars with an odd number of people in the carriage. Do they have such?
  6. +6
    20 August 2014 12: 08
    We are waiting for a similar answer.
    1. +1
      20 August 2014 12: 57
      The cartoon is cool! But no one canceled electronic warfare !!! Waste of resources for the development of trash !!!
    2. +2
      20 August 2014 13: 29
      I agree with Rus2012. First you need to figure out a secure communication channel, which will be extremely difficult to crack and suppress interference. If the first is still possible, then the second ... I'm not sure.
      Well, of course, these "masiks" have a grenade launcher to carry a tank into the bochin. I am sure that they will immediately begin to hang side screens on tanks. Only the caliber or a fundamentally new shell will decide. With the caliber, alas, it will not work because of the size of the machine, the projectile - R&D is needed!
      but in general a cartoon ... patriotic I would say))))
      1. 0
        21 August 2014 05: 14
        Quote: silver_roman
        First you need to figure out a secure communication channel, which will be extremely difficult to crack and suppress interference ...

        It is impossible to crack a 256-bit encoding of a signal in real time (to crack such an encoding it takes months or even years of resource-hours of a decryption supercomputer with a performance of 20+ petaflops).
        With interference, too, it’s not all so sad, drowning all the air over large areas is unrealistic in terms of the monstrous energy expenditures for such an action, and pinpoint suppression is possible only with the direct detection of a monitored object.
        EW tools are good against radars and guidance tools, but against encrypted communication channels, they are not so effective. It is especially difficult to suppress a narrow channel of communication with a satellite.
    3. 0
      20 August 2014 13: 46
      Cool cartoon. It is necessary to present such Rogozin, they say we are developing similar, so that strangers are afraid and our waiting proud.
  7. +4
    20 August 2014 12: 08
    EW means they "hobble" and turn into trash!
    Too overplayed in the contactless struggle ...
  8. +2
    20 August 2014 12: 09
    evade shells? Oh well)))
    1. 0
      20 August 2014 12: 54
      and from guided missiles they will beat off a tennis racket)))
  9. +1
    20 August 2014 12: 10
    RPG, even 7m, has not yet been canceled, with the corresponding ammunition.
  10. +3
    20 August 2014 12: 11
    Well, grandmas are able to pump out businessmen from the budget. Well done. Such scammers still look. Another bunch, like super-duper fighters.
  11. +4
    20 August 2014 12: 11
    Let them make a smart tank, so that he thinks and says tries ... he knocked down this war in an unknown direction laughing
    1. Tyumen
      +1
      20 August 2014 12: 38
      And Russia will construct an ATGM that flies in an unknown direction.)
  12. +9
    20 August 2014 12: 12
    Maybe they will immediately evade military service laughing
    1. +1
      20 August 2014 13: 26
      Yeah, they will beat themselves triplexes, tear the caterpillars, and write on the displays "I am Napoeon" or "AAAAAAA! Take them off me, take them off !! .... They are under ERA !!! ..."
  13. +8
    20 August 2014 12: 13
    I read the topic title and the first thing that came to mind - the tanks will rest against everything they can, but they won’t go into battle or scatter anywhere in the battle .....
  14. +3
    20 August 2014 12: 14
    Oops, I don’t remember the author of the story about the "smart" tank that crumbled all the observers. We went along this path ... well, well ... a tank to meet them. feel
    1. +3
      20 August 2014 12: 48
      Cool cartoon. "Polygon" is called.
      1. +2
        20 August 2014 13: 23
        Yes, "North of Gansovsky" ... hi
        ... And why then the tank does not move
        just from thoughts? For example, at this moment I think that it would be nice to
        hit him with a shell directly into the tower. Where he stands now. I think but
        the tank does not move. However, they told us that we will all be in the field
        actions of the machine in the field of action of this device. The whole island.
        The inventor shrugged slightly.

        seehttp: //books.rusf.ru/unzip/add-on/xussr_gk/gansos35.htm? 2 / 3
  15. +2
    20 August 2014 12: 14
    Fighting cockroaches, when you turn on the light (or threat) scatter in different directions? By the way, American cockroaches are even larger! (see "Men in Black").
    And they really sat down to watch, then there are possibilities of course, but SDI in the 80s was also a propaganda weapon, but it turned out to be zilch. Although ours did and launched a prototype of laser weapons into the Pole + Energy orbit already under Gorbachev, but before the meeting in Reykjavik.

    1. 0
      20 August 2014 13: 22
      Quote: Grabber2000
      Although ours did and launched a prototype of laser weapons into the Pole + Energy orbit already under Gorbachev, but before the meeting in Reykjavik.

      The launch was unsuccessful; the Pole was not put into orbit.
      1. 0
        20 August 2014 15: 27
        the launch was successful - just at the command of traitors from the ground, the rocket self-destructed by changing the trajectory.
      2. Mwg
        0
        20 August 2014 22: 14
        M.S. Gorbachev arrived when the launch vehicle was on the launch pad and talked for a long time about the attitude of the Soviet people towards "peace, friendship, chewing gum." And then he gave instructions to destroy the station. So she was drowned in the ocean.
  16. +2
    20 August 2014 12: 14
    the yankees are harnessing. laughing
  17. +2
    20 August 2014 12: 15
    rather, we are talking about a new type of highly mobile, unmanned armored vehicles. Imagine how such a "gnat" can "zadolbat" well, for example, a remote block post
    1. +1
      20 August 2014 12: 35
      A couple of mines or IEDs will make iron rubbish out of this midge ..... so I think this is a miracle of another DAPRA wunderwafer ...
      1. 0
        20 August 2014 14: 01
        this is certainly true - there is a reaction to any action! But all the same, I think that it is not worth it so frivolously and "captive" refers to the development of a potential enemy. Min and electronic warfare may not be at hand, and judging by the declared goals, it will be extremely difficult to get into this wunderwolf from a grenade launcher ....... And more ... I think that the Americans (or American oligarchs) are developing a new concept of warfare "ala terminator" where the leading role is assigned to combat robots and unmanned vehicles
        1. 0
          20 August 2014 17: 48
          Quote: JonnyT
          Mines and EW may not be at hand, but judging by the stated goals, it will be extremely difficult to get into this wunderwaffle from a grenade launcher .....

          with the widespread use of such lightly armored vehicles, the answer will be the development of a guided anti-tank missile grenade for a grenade launcher since the armor of such a technique is quite tough for them, because back in 60-70 years. a cumulative grenade was developed for a grenade launcher with armor penetration of 40-50 mm. armor
    2. +1
      20 August 2014 13: 31
      So at the checkpoint, too, not salabons-conscripts can be. To prevent this "gnat" from turning into scrap at the cost of Maybach, a very advanced AI is needed. And this is not yet even in games where you only need to control a set of pixels. If there were such opportunities and appropriate specialists, game makers for the sake of super-profit would have lured them away from the warriors long ago.

      PS: In general, a tank is like a big soldier with a big gun. Even if you remove the armor, to carry the guns + ammunition that meets the tasks of the machine, you need a chassis of a certain carrying capacity, cross-country ability and dimensions. Without this, this is another machine-gun buggy. Remember Discovery showed Ripsaw? Something does not order them with hundreds of pentagon ...
  18. +6
    20 August 2014 12: 15
    In addition, the developers want to ensure that "the created armored vehicles can overcome 95 percent of any landscapes they encountered, including various hills and elevations."
  19. +1
    20 August 2014 12: 16
    The title of the article is cool))))
  20. +1
    20 August 2014 12: 16
    and these "runaway tanks" will be named after American sports runners, the better the model will be the sooner it leaves the battlefield wassat
    I feel after the development this "miracle" of technology will be used as an attraction in Disneyland "
    1. +1
      20 August 2014 12: 20
      that way they will soon reach the rank and file. tanks dodge grenades, and soldiers from bullets will fool
  21. +2
    20 August 2014 12: 19
    The bogeyman is complete. A tank on the battlefield should take the main blow at itself from less defended forces, this is one of its functions. And if he, at the slightest danger, will rush off and hide in the gap, throwing infantry and armored personnel carriers - what the hell is such a tank for?
    PS Apparently the Americans decided to make the tank in the image of a cockroach. laughing
  22. +10
    20 August 2014 12: 19
    US defenders intend to create tanks that will avoid enemy attacks


    ,,, cartoon remembered ,, winked
    1. +1
      20 August 2014 13: 07
      Quote: bubalik
      ,, cartoon remembered

      Me too) Class
  23. 0
    20 August 2014 12: 19
    Everything will be poher. The USA will fall apart and it will no longer be up to high technology.
  24. 0
    20 August 2014 12: 20
    Yes, let them do it, it’s enough to go from PTR and that's all.
  25. 0
    20 August 2014 12: 20
    And that is quite American. He saw the enemy and quickly fled the battlefield. laughing The right way, comrades.
  26. +1
    20 August 2014 12: 21
    Everything new is well forgotten old. Back in the 30s and 40s, mattress makers preached the principle that "tanks do not fight with tanks." Let me ask you what became of that principle, especially after the Kursk Bulge. So it is now. Another pumping out of green American rubles.
    1. 0
      20 August 2014 16: 53
      Quote: sinukvl
      Back in the 30s and 40s, mattress makers preached the principle that "tanks do not fight with tanks."

      You will remember their tanks in the indicated period and everything will become clear. How many "Royal Tiger" theirs Shermans impaled there? 20-30, I don't remember, and left. They never even hit him. Same as T-2 and T-3 versus KV-1. No chances.
  27. +1
    20 August 2014 12: 21
    Quote: Login_Off
    So let them finish their dog)))


    But for me it’s so easy to add fragments to the shells and hi will try to dodge them! The next nonsense in general!
    just sawing lavender ... what kind of army will the Amers have? First they invade and then they start to run away? Bullshit .. fool
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  29. nicollider
    +1
    20 August 2014 12: 22
    reminds an ankedote: the tests of the smart bomb ended in failure; they couldn’t push it out of the bomb bay.

    nda. the only safe place is deep in the rear.
  30. +2
    20 August 2014 12: 22
    I already had such an attempt, the French LT AMX in the Israeli army, their crews, instead of swift attacks, were forced to hide more from grenade launchers and not only.
    1. 0
      20 August 2014 12: 34
      Quote: Maks Repp
      I already had such an attempt, the French LT AMX in the Israeli army, their crews, instead of swift attacks, were forced to hide more from grenade launchers and not only.
      and even earlier, "the Makhnovists ... wrote dashing slogans on the carts" Fuck you go away! ", in the offensive or" Fuck you, catch up! "
  31. +1
    20 August 2014 12: 26
    Any enemy from the outside is not terrible, its own "fifth column" is much more dangerous. No.
  32. +3
    20 August 2014 12: 29
    The whole truth is that DARPA generates thousands of new projects (regardless of whether the military ordered them or not), the most worthy ones are selected from them (to offer or participate in an existing tender).

    There is no need to react to all the fantastic DARPA projects, this is not the position of the Pentagon - not everything will even be created in metal.
    In general, Skolkovo everyone should work on their principle, and not so that development takes place either in budgetary institutions or in the design bureaus themselves and often only according to the existing military order - for example, to make a new BMP - and everyone started looking for an economical and better way and came to opinion that you need to upgrade ...
  33. +2
    20 August 2014 12: 29
    Well, how to attack such a glamorous tank with such a beauty?
    1. +1
      20 August 2014 12: 42
      and even if she herself gives honor!)))
  34. 0
    20 August 2014 12: 32
    Quote: MSA
    For every tricky American railroad, Russian will be found with a screw.

    and with reverse thread))))))
  35. 0
    20 August 2014 12: 33
    US defenders intend to create tanks that will avoid enemy attacks

    Then planes avoiding take-off, submarines avoiding immersion, etc.
    They don’t know what else to come up with to cut the loot.
  36. 0
    20 August 2014 12: 33
    "Either it will still be oh eh eh ..."
  37. Everest2014
    0
    20 August 2014 12: 34
    For some reason, I recalled a joke about the elusive Joe.
    - And why the elusive?
    - Yes, nobody just catches him.

    Judging by the dimensions, is it something like a drone or something?
  38. +1
    20 August 2014 12: 34
    Lord gentlemen! Let them do it, no matter what the child is amusing ... No need to sober them up with our sober look !!!
  39. 0
    20 August 2014 12: 37
    The direction is right.
    Actively worked out in the USSR.
    Ballistic reservations are designed for the remnants of the damaging elements destroyed by very active defense systems.
    Active protection and auxiliary calibers are completely unified.
  40. +5
    20 August 2014 12: 40
    "American defenders intend to create tanks that will avoid enemy attacks" ...

    (blah blah blah), how's that? probably they will sit with the crew in front of the TV set, listen to the psaku, eat "pop-feed", drinking cola straight from the barrel .... or maybe champagne? laughing
  41. 0
    20 August 2014 12: 40
    Aha
    They will run away from the war!
  42. netwalker
    +2
    20 August 2014 12: 47
    as always fantastic! Americans in their style
  43. +1
    20 August 2014 12: 47
    if unmanned - the control channel will be jammed by electronic warfare
    if pilot - even in the USA it will be difficult to find such a scumbag who would agree to drive a tank, knowing that even small arms will have to be evaded.
  44. +1
    20 August 2014 12: 48
    They want to invent a HELICOPTER !!!
    1. +1
      20 August 2014 15: 23
      To the very point! Jeep mini helicopter!
      I wrote a more detailed post below.
  45. +1
    20 August 2014 12: 48
    Oh yes let them suffer garbage. Americans forever explore what has long been researched and create what is created or is not needed by anyone. But they spend energy and money on it!
  46. 0
    20 August 2014 12: 49
    US defenders intend to create tanks that will avoid enemy attacks

    is it like in a joke about a smart bomb? who didn’t want to fall out of the bomber?

    so it will be here - the best place to avoid - retreat to the rear :)))
  47. +1
    20 August 2014 12: 53
    "American defense industry intends to create tanks that will avoid enemy attacks"
    Let's simplify to - a soldier avoiding enemy attacks. In Dill, tactics are being worked out.
  48. 0
    20 August 2014 12: 59
    There is a rational grain in the decision of the Yankees, but this is a selective application of such a technique, where it can be said for certain that there will not be a weapon capable of withstanding such a technique. Well, it's like science fiction, somewhere on the moon.
  49. +1
    20 August 2014 12: 59
    If you reduce the size, weight and number of crew members of the "Abrams" and increase the speed - then you get the T-80 !!!!!!!!!!
    1. 0
      20 August 2014 15: 26
      Quote: Hyperborea
      If you reduce the size, weight and number of crew members of the "Abrams" and increase the speed - then you get the T-80 !!!!!!!!!!

      Their speed is about the same.
  50. +1
    20 August 2014 13: 03
    After looking at the dill national guard, America decided to create tanks that would avoid direct combat clashes with the enemy, i.e. Escape from the battlefield. wassat
    1. 0
      20 August 2014 13: 41
      Quote: kmike
      After looking at the dill national guard, America decided to create tanks that would avoid direct combat clashes with the enemy, i.e. Escape from the battlefield. wassat

      It would be like one gear, reverse, with two modes, lowering and raising. One will be an escape. fool
  51. 0
    20 August 2014 13: 04
    Why, during the war they will run away or something?
  52. ..Dmitry..
    0
    20 August 2014 13: 08
    "d@fucking" to microtanks - like in transformers - a robot made from a mobile phone)
    as Eastern philosophers wisely say, the best battle is the one that didn’t take place

    PS "Guys, let's live together" (TM "Leopold")
  53. karskrin
    0
    20 August 2014 13: 13
    Yes, create MORE and MORE EXPENSIVE things!!! You give Serdyukov many different new projects to envy!
  54. 0
    20 August 2014 13: 14
    We already have tanks of nanotechnology; they cannot be seen, heard, or knocked out. Chubais does not sleep and creates. drinks
  55. +1
    20 August 2014 13: 19
    The best protection for a tank is to stay out of battle, there are “gifts” waiting for you!
  56. Accent
    0
    20 August 2014 13: 20
    DARPA claims that it will take 2 years to develop such technologies.


    And 20 billion dollars from the “leaky” US budget! winked
  57. 0
    20 August 2014 13: 20
    Well actually I agree with this concept. Modern striking power is too superior to defensive potential. However, it’s hard to rely on speed. We need satellite systems that will monitor the battlefield, escort all combat units, predict the points that will be struck, and, based on this data, suggest optimal positions to allied units.
    A kind of virtual tactical advisor.
  58. Accent
    0
    20 August 2014 13: 25
    Now the agency has taken on the development of new types of military equipment that will lose weight and become faster, which will allow it to evade enemy attacks and not test the strength of its armor.


    And also transform into an airplane! The design team of the American defense agency DARPA seems to be watching science fiction together.
  59. 0
    20 August 2014 13: 27
    imagined: such a smart tank comes up to the company commander and hints like this: Here it...s...smells. I went and I advise you to do the same!
  60. +1
    20 August 2014 13: 27
    The idea might not be a bad one. Light tank destroyer.
    Remember: the German Hetzer.
    Tactics: fire only one or two shots from a camouflaged position
    and run away without getting into a firefight. And hide again.
  61. 0
    20 August 2014 13: 38
    The mattresses are tired of their stupid ideas, suitable only against an obviously weak opponent. With their network-centric wars. Apparently they have a dream of destroying enemies without getting up from their chair and without leaving their home...
  62. Rossiyanka
    0
    20 August 2014 13: 40
    Avoiding new attacks is like in Iraq, escaping from ISIS
  63. +1
    20 August 2014 13: 45
    What if you hit them with shrapnel??? I think a tin like this will make a good colander! laughing
  64. 0
    20 August 2014 14: 04
    Did I understand correctly, the Americans are going to kill a couple of years and make a ton of money to “invent” a very fast and super-maneuverable tank with super-pupper intelligence, which will allow you to evade direct attacks from the enemy?!...Apparently, NATO specialists took into account the sad experience of the latter companies in Ukraine, where “evil militias” cynically take away tanks from the Kyiv “peacekeepers” who did not have time to “hide”))
    PS. but in general this is very good news)... Let the Americans spend more money and create this miracle runner)))... Our much cheaper alternative answer, plowing several football fields since the times of the USSR, is in the reserve divisions... By the way , even Katyushas would be useful, if they are available somewhere else)))... Moreover, this toy will be easy to book)
    In short, thanks to the engineers of the USSR!!!...Great guys who created for centuries!!!
  65. Crimea-nyash
    0
    20 August 2014 14: 11
    avoiding or running away...what's the difference. This is a tank that all the time you think, with your iron brains, it's time to run, it's time...even as soon as you get off the assembly line.
  66. 3vs
    0
    20 August 2014 14: 20
    I can imagine, at the sound of a shot, this tank throws away its gun and armor and rolls to surrender or
    whatever urine there is begins to run away. fellow
  67. 0
    20 August 2014 14: 54
    Why create a weapon that will evade anything, if you can do without it at all! As they say, a smart man comes out of bad situations well, but a wise man does not fall into them!
  68. 0
    20 August 2014 15: 05
    When America safely sinks into oblivion, and this will be very soon, the hemorrhoidal-peredastic American gamer designers will not have to dream - they simply won’t exist....
  69. 0
    20 August 2014 15: 21
    The maneuverability of such an anti-tank buggy should
    exceed the tank's maneuverability. Otherwise there is no escape.
    But this is not enough. So that such a “buggy” with ATGM could
    beat tanks, he must, like the crocodile from the joke,
    fly, but “low, low.” That is, you need a transformer:
    jeep helicopter. With an emphasis on riding rather than flying.
  70. special
    0
    20 August 2014 16: 41
    AHA!!!! He will immediately run to the rear!!!! fellow
  71. 0
    20 August 2014 17: 08
    Did I understand correctly: I stamped my foot and... the tanks scattered through the bushes?
  72. +3
    20 August 2014 19: 38
    Now the agency has taken on the development of new types of military equipment that will lose weight and become faster

    Which will allow you to retreat three times faster wassat
  73. +1
    20 August 2014 20: 04
    Quote: Gorbtk
    The crew of 3 people halved - it’s like, it turns out one and a half tanker, it’s interesting to leave Bosko or a seat ... wassat

    Three cripples: one without arms, the second without legs, the third without a head
  74. 0
    20 August 2014 23: 14
    From a purely technical standpoint, it is unlikely that it will be possible to create a vehicle with spatial “escape” accelerations higher than those of modern, and even more so, promising “catch-up” ammunition.
    PS. Damn, I barely understood what I wrote)))
  75. 0
    21 August 2014 01: 31
    American scientists have proven that they, in general, are not American...