Are the Pakistani T-XNUMHUD tanks having engine problems in the desert?

One of the favorite themes of Russian critics weapons until recently there was a topic of exploitation tanks T-90S Bishma in the high heat of the Thar desert. At one time, lobbyists of the Indian tank "Arjun" threw materials into the local press stating that the T-90S allegedly had problems with engine overheating in extreme heat. These rumors were joyfully picked up by the enemies of domestic tank building. But it turns out that the T-80UD tanks, which, at one time, were sold by Ukraine to Pakistan, have certain problems with cooling the power plants.

T-XNUMHUD with a raised roof above the engine

Relatively recently, photos of the combat studies of Pakistani tankers appeared on the network. On one of these photos is seen riding T-XNUMHUD with an open roof
engine compartment. This is usually done when the engine, and in this case the 1000-strong 6TD-1, starts to get very hot. But earlier it was stated that, allegedly, the Ukrainian "Dviguns" are more adapted to high heat. But miracles do not happen, and this photo is the best confirmation of this.

T-80UD tanks of the Pakistani army

As for the T-90С tanks, then, according to Nizhny Tagil experts, their power units with a fan cooling system have their own characteristics of operation.

The fact is that as the speed increases and the engine speed increases and the fan speed becomes larger, the air pumping through the radiators increases dramatically (because the relationship is not linear) and, accordingly, the cooling improves.

T-90 "Bishma"

This creates prerequisites for work on the so-called. "regulatory branch" - when with good cooling at high speeds to maintain maximum speed, you can pour less fuel into the cylinders. This, in turn, dramatically reduces heat transfer in the power plant, improves economic performance.

So, on tests in one of the African countries, T-90С ran over the airfield's concrete at one gas station during heat for 50 degrees on the order of 730 km versus passport 500-550 km. The speed exceeded 65 km / h.

Is it any wonder that the number of countries wishing to purchase T-90С modifications is constantly growing.

Comments

[gandalf]

The armor is strong and our tanks are really fast!

[armageddon]

Hmm ... Ukrainians and TANKS cannot do ... WHAT THEY CAN ... Just DOWNLOAD ... !!!

[Very old]

Chelyabinsk and Nizhny Tagil - WHERE? Not in UKRAINE

[Kars]

It is cool to draw such far-reaching conclusions from the photo of ONE tank, at least a photo of two tanks in the same picture with open MTOs.
But what else to expect from Khlopotov.
More than ten years have passed since the delivery of 450 T-80UD to Pakistan and only one photo))

[voyaka uh]

To be fair, let’s say that one T-90 tank
at official trials in India - in the desert in terrible heat - also completely
engine flew. Although it is known that these engines are reliable.
We had a batch of defective engines for Merkava, delivered from America.

[yushch]

I support you, the procedure is the same everywhere. Only during operation and combat use are jambs detected that the manufacturer eliminates. A photo of one tank does not mean anything. All the more, in all honesty, the brainchild of Soviet engineers and the fault of Ukrainian manufacturers are not quite right.

[zeleznijdorojnik]

I do not agree, the Soviet engineers equipped this GTD tank and believe me, it was the best tank of its time. The only minus fuel consumption, but in the case of a massive 80-k spurt to the English Channel, for which they were created, fuel consumption did not bother anyone.
And the Ukrainians shoved the diesel into it. By the way, I would not like other forum users to blame the KhTZ-noble factory was, and some kind of story was born there.

[lex loci]

Just the collapse of the country is reflected in stagnation in industry and lag in technology. The T-80 is still yesterday (it’s clear that for Ukrainians it’s super and only for sale)

[SkiF_RnD]

The T-80 is the same yesterday as the T-90 and M1.

[viktorrymar]

Do you need to have new tank models appear every 10 years, and even conceptually new ones?

Arms race is like inflation, raise wages - prices rise
They came up with a new tank - next will be a new tank or something else.

[Angro Magno]

But I remember that Pakistanis were warned at one time. Do not mess ....

[podpolkovnik]

Quote: Angro Magno

But I remember that Pakistanis were warned at one time. Do not mess ....

Iraq risked contact too ...
In the end ... you know.

[max702]

Ukhokhlov tpnki were bought for one reason, the Russian Federation refused to sell t90 .. Indians insisted ..

[Kars]

Quote: max702

Ukhokhlov tpnki were bought for one reason, the Russian Federation refused to sell t90 .. Indians insisted ..

What are you)) and nothing that Pakistan got the T-80 earlier than the T-90 in India?

[Denis]

But miracles do not happen, and this photo is the best confirmation of this.

It’s worth adding that it’s more difficult to drive and maintain a tank than a donkey. This has been proved more than once

Until recently, one of the favorite topics of critics of Russian weapons was the topic of the operation of the T-90S "Bishma" tanks in the high heat of the Thar desert.

That, too, has not been fresh for a long time. To this shabby Temka, it remains only to add so that only the mattress is bought

[mig31]

For the information of all, ordinary bullshit !!!! by order of the State Department !!!! Business has not been canceled by anyone .... Our tanks are the best, as well as aircraft !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Horst78]

Recently infa got that Indians saved on the cooling and air conditioning system and that's the problem. Algeria bought the same tanks on these systems did not save and they have no problems overheating engines and living space.

[serega.fedotov]

Well, to be honest, in the desert conditions the "Challengers" and "Abrams" and "Leopards" also had problems
Of course, I am not a professional of tank troops, but comparing the T72 and T80 air filter I could not fail to notice the T80 filter twice as large, and has a rather complex design, which means the volume of air by the "pumped" engine in the T80 is many times greater, which in desert conditions is not In addition, in Astrakhan, at the training ground (and there, though not a desert, there is a LOT of sand) How would they not cover the BMP engines, and did not try to close the hatches, everything was covered with fine dust! And the "natives" were constantly "spitting" - telling that engines "die" twice as often!

[glom]

The article deals with the T-80UD. The Ukrainians put their 6TD two-stroke diesel engine into the 72's and sold it to Pakistan. It consumes no more air than the T-64. In my little experience of service on the basis of a reserve of tanks, V-shaped tank diesels start half-kick. Kharkiv "miracle of engineering" will get lost in the fireman. As for overheating, the air pumping through the T-80 and T-XNUMXUD radiators is ejection, due to the speed of the exhaust gases, so the mechanic must maintain high speeds so that the radiator is somehow blown out.

[mirag2]

Great point!

[halg]

The Malyshev factory performed the Pakistani contract on the principle of pine boron. Collected all the trash, marafetil. Then there was the first attempt to do without her. (ended badly). As a result, I still had to turn to growing. component suppliers.

[Mature Hrych]

Russian tanks are just as easy to maintain and also not whimsical in comparison with Western models, as if I had been serving in a rembat if I were to compare the AK-47 and the M-16.6th year. This morning, the battalion commander gave the command on the fire BTeS to change the engine to the 1st category. (Base t64) Three hours later, fresh fuel and lubricants were already poured and the bts went on hodoviva. Like this.

[Dymkovsky]

The coolest koment when he did and told others! Thank!

[Professor]

Quote: Inveterate Hrych

Russian tanks are just as easy to maintain and also not whimsical in comparison with Western models, as if I had been serving in a rembat if I were to compare the AK-47 and the M-16.6th year.

Comparing the unpretentiousness of domestic and foreign tanks, could you give an example of norms in man-hours, let’s say, for replacing an engine?

[Mature Hrych]

peacetime standards 54 people / hour

[Professor]

Quote: Hard Hrych

peacetime standards 54 people / hour

Bravo, how much is provided for on Merkava?

[explorer]

Quote: professor

Bravo, how much is provided for on Merkava?

in the cold?

[Professor]

Quote: explorer

in the cold?

I don’t know about the frost, it doesn’t happen often, but 4 people stand out in the field apart from the crane operator and 20 minutes to replace the engine with the transmission on Merkava (and, of course, start the engine) in the field. At the base, this is done even faster. The record was [removed by censorship].

PS
Total, which tank is easier to maintain, which takes 54 people / hour or 1.5 people / hour to replace the engine?

[Mature Hrych]

No one has chased records at our tanks yet, but I think it will not be difficult to beat him.

[Angro Magno]

On the T-80 tank, the engine replacement time is - 5 hours, of each gearbox - 4,5 hours. (The final report on the military operation of the 3 company in PrivO).

On the T-72 tank, the engine replacement time is 24 hours. (Report 38 NIIII BTT, "Monitoring the progress of military operation of T-72 tanks in the BVI). The replacement time for each gearbox is 10,5 hours, guitars 17,7 hours (Manual for military repair of T-72 tanks).

http://btvt.narod.ru/4/t-80.html

[Professor]

And how do they become "easier to maintain" than the same Merkava?

[Angro Magno]

And who says it is easier? I just clarified the numbers, no more.

[Professor]

Quote: Angro Magno

Mature Hrych

Matery Krych is talking about this, and respect to you.

[Mature Hrych]

So! Enough talking about records, cranes ... In combat / field conditions, the engine broke down on the T72 and on the Merkava. The question is who will go first? T 72. It is much easier and faster to carry out minor repairs by the crew on the T72, since at least two people can climb into the MTO department and "pick" the engine from any side, using any spare parts, tools. And how will you forgive yourself, without a crane, picking the power plant module on the merkava, which must first be pulled out with a crane? The crew will simply throw the tank onto the battlefield. A tank will either wait for its evacuation or be captured / destroyed by the enemy.

[Professor]

Quote: Inveterate Hrych

In combat / field conditions, the engine on the T72 and the merkava broke down. The question is who will go first ?. T 72

How does the T-72 go first if it is changed in the field in 20 minutes on the Merkava, and on the T-72 per day? Where is the logic?

Quote: Inveterate Hrych

And how do you forgive me without a crane picking a power plant module on a merkava, which must first be pulled out with a crane?

The Merkava is larger and the access to the engine is at least the same as on the T-72. Thus, for minor repairs it does not need to be "pulled out".

[Mature Hrych]

"power plant module". Not an engine, but a module. Which changes in 20 minutes, in the factory. And the engine is inside this power module.

[Professor]

Quote: Hard Hrych

"power plant module". Not an engine, but a module. Which changes in 20 minutes, in the factory. And the engine is inside this power module.

And the cylinder inside the engine? And to waste the crankshaft? Continue? We change the power plant in 20 minutes in the field and the tank is back in battle. And let the engine go through the base.

How does the T-72 go first if it is changed in the field in 20 minutes on the Merkava, and on the T-72 per day?

[Mature Hrych]

Is a crane on the heels of a tank on the battlefield? And the bullets fly past the experts? Or does the crew change the engine itself?

[Professor]

Quote: Hard Hrych

Is a crane on the heels of a tank on the battlefield? And the bullets fly past the experts? Or does the crew change the engine itself?

Of course. BREM called. Did you not know? And the bullets fly at specialists and there were losses among them.

[Mature Hrych]

In the photo, I understand the conditions of the battle captured? Or deep rear after evacuation? And then the question is how much time has passed after the evacuation of 20 minutes?

[Professor]

Quote: Inveterate Hrych

In the photo, I understand the conditions of the battle captured? Or deep rear after evacuation?

In the first photo of the BREM on the basis of Merkava with the appropriate reservation (guess what?), The rest of the tank repairs in the Golan at the front line where damaged tanks were evacuated. In your T-72 fighters will dig under crossfire in the motor? For this we exist BREM.

Quote: Inveterate Hrych

And then the question is how much time has passed after the evacuation of 20 minutes?

The time from the moment of evacuation to the beginning of the replacement of the power plant is that for Merkava that for the T-72 passes approximately the same. And we already found out about the repair time.

[Mature Hrych]

That's the whole point of the T72, it’s not necessary to evacuate. The crew can independently put the car in operation. And evacuation is needed for a destroyed car.

[Professor]

Quote: Inveterate Hrych

That's the whole point of the T72, it’s not necessary to evacuate. The crew can independently put the car in operation.

Well, where did you get this? Do you think a German diesel engine is less reliable than a Soviet one and more difficult to repair? Excellent ergonomics Soviet technology never suffered.

Quote: Inveterate Hrych

And evacuation is needed for a destroyed car.

Evacuation is needed for a car that has lost its course, be it because of the loss of a track or a stalled engine. Have you ever seen a tank alive?

[Mature Hrych]

In 1982, I was seconded as a specialist in the T-72 tank to the 3rd TD of the Syrian army. The division was organized into brigades - one tank brigade, the 81st, was completely on the T-72, in the motorized rifle (as in the text; I mean motorized rifle - U.L.) brigade was a T-72 battalion, and in another brigade ..., yes, exactly, and one more brigade was on the T-62. Yes, in two T-72s and one T-62. In July, if I am not mistaken, the division was brought into Bekaa, in the area of ​​the town of Stuhr. As soon as they began to enter the valley - a raid. They bombed heavily, but there were no irrecoverable losses among the tanks [15]. There were tanks with combat damage as a result of the raid, but they were all for minor repairs and there were only a few of them. One I remember that along almost the entire tower, right in the center, there was a smooth deep furrow from a rapid-fire cannon. He remained in the ranks. But we lost a lot of wheeled vehicles as a result of the raid, but I can’t name the numbers - our wheeled vehicles had a different service. However, there were still losses of the T-72. 12 cars were irretrievably lost (burned out), almost all of them as a result of hits from ATGM TOW in jeeps. Typically hitting the turret ring. One of the vehicles had 3 hits on the hull's forehead, one of them with a penetration. Out of 12 vehicles, 2 were lost singly - one after a halted attack during a truce (the Syrians were given the command "stop", so they climbed out to drink tea at that place, and then the "sausage" flew in ...), and the second was knocked into the side by a sub-caliber shell, could not be repaired. Before the company of vehicles was lost when the convoy was in pre-battle formations along the Beirut-Damascus road.

And I saw the "Merkava" destroyed by the T-72 fire with my own eyes on the no-man's land. Struck by a sub-caliber projectile in the turret ring and through the turret ring from behind the shell came out. The Merkava burned down.

[Professor]

Quote: Inveterate Hrych

And I saw the "Merkava" destroyed by the T-72 fire with my own eyes on the no-man's land. Struck by a sub-caliber projectile in the turret ring and through the turret ring from behind the shell came out. The Merkava burned down.

Excuse me, but what does these bullies have to do with "Russian tanks are just as easy to maintain and not whimsical compared to Western models"?
By the way, the T-72 in Lebanon was beaten up by caliber, but this is a completely different story.

[cat hippopotamus]

Mature, at that time I served in the GSVG, looked at the documents of the chipboard and, if you believe that info, the armor-piercing shells of their Merkava could not take T-72 armor. In a direct clash, the coefficient went 2 to 10 in favor of 72ek. Only after the delivery of some cumulative shells did the situation somehow improve, but not to full parity. I saw photos in attachments to information. It’s worth Merkava as good as new, there’s only a hole in the tower for departure and there’s no crew. I look at the photo 72ki, all the attachments are demolished, the armor as a walnut scarlet is covered in furrows, and there is no antenna. But the BG tank, the crew is alive.

[Professor]

Mature, at that time I served in the GSVG, looked at the documents of the chipboard and, if you believe that info, the armor-piercing shells of their Merkava could not take T-72 armor. In a direct clash, the coefficient went 2 to 10 in favor of 72ek.

No need for fairy tales, otherwise I’ll now find descriptions of the trials of the captured magah, about how I pierced the T-72 armor and what measures were taken as a result of these tests.

It’s worth Merkava as good as new, there’s only a hole in the tower for departure and there’s no crew. I look at the photo 72ki, all the attachments are demolished, the armor as a walnut scarlet is covered in furrows, and there is no antenna. But the BG tank, the crew is alive.

Is it really hard to learn? Merkava did not knock out the T-72 and T-72 did not knock out the Merkava as they did not intersect in the hostilities.

PS
You better tell us how the Soviet military adviser in Lebanon in 1982 met the wounded Abrams. I really love this story.

[uwzek]

Here you are in vain ... Any monoblock for repair requires dismantling with a crane. BREM should drive up, pull out one engine, and shove in another. This means that there must still be an SUV truck for transporting a serviceable monoblock. You are not a stupid person (although, in reality, you hardly dealt with iron). Judge for yourself. You ride a tank, and this mechanism covers the engine (I'm not even talking about combat conditions, but about an ordinary march). The engine computer diagnosed some kind of failure, real or related to an open circuit of one of the numerous sensors (the latter is even worse - then your tank simply died as a combat unit). You need to call a "technician" to remove the roof over the MTO, and then unhook the monoblock from the tank (this is, at least, the fuel supply, interface connectors and connections to the drive wheels - with a car weighing over sixty tons, they are by no means cap nuts). Then, in the reverse order, install the new unit and check its functionality. If you still believe that it will take only 20 minutes (during this time, sometimes you can't poop) ...

[Alekseev]

Well, about engines it’s understandable, it’s true, they forget that if a V84 diesel engine, etc., can sometimes be shamanized in an army, then there is nothing to think about a gas turbine engine.
But KP, what are very different?

[kirpich]

Dear Oleg, do you want to say that your "Merkavas" come to the pitstop after an attack, and in 20 minutes are ready to go into battle?

[Professor]

Quote: kirpich

Dear Oleg, do you want to say that your "Merkavas" come to the pitstop after an attack, and in 20 minutes are ready to go into battle?

No, I claim that the replacement power plant in the field, it takes about 20 minutes, and even less at the pit stop.

[kirpich]

Well, well, I won’t even argue.
Will you show the video?

[Professor]

Quote: kirpich

Will you show the video?

I won’t show, I don’t have it.

[MACCABI TLV]

this is the standard of the brigade

[uwzek]

A similar power cube is used on the "armature" (on the T-90MS, too, but different). Replacement in an hour and a half ...

[sscha]

And if you also modernize your own sixty-two for dynamic and active protection, surveillance devices and sights, then it will still serve! And when you consider how much they cost for conservation - this is the tank army gathering!
With charging only problems - as if there weren’t - the last century! Although with the crew worked in rate of fire, the T-72 will not give in to a lot and will be simple and unpretentious!
Ammunition only 115-mm remained in the storerooms, or did they dispose of everything? Although, I heard that the T-62 ki were still in service in the Russian Air Force ...

[the47th]

There has long been a solution to the T-55M6.

[Vitynar]

Quote: Inveterate Hrych

This morning, the battalion commander gave the command on the fire BTeS to change the engine to the 1st category. (Base t64) Three hours later, fresh fuel and lubricants were already poured and the bts went on hodoviva. Like this.

MTU on tanks like Leopard-2 changes in 15 minutes completely. I can search for a video.

[uwzek]

Not true. You replace the taps in the bathroom during this time ...

[Vitynar]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXxyuBLncds
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=148O1tl9S-M

In general, Russians, you will never achieve success alone, and you repel your allies with your insults. Instead of just asking me to find a video, you insulted me with the accusation of lying and slapped a minus "just in case."

No one wants to be friendly with you, you know, after this, no one will. And alone, as I said, you will not survive in this world.

[Platoon]

The conclusion about overheating "eighties" is made on the basis of one photo.

[dmit-xnumx]

Speaking of tanks, has anyone come across anything about the Armata? Chatty Rogozin threatened to show her at the Parade on May 9, but ... he tweets about anything, however, what else can we expect from a politician?

[SkiF_RnD]

He did not promise this year, it was felts for 15, felts for 16

[Mature Hrych]

http://btvt.narod.ru/4/t-80ud/t-80ud.htm

[Professor]

So, on tests in one of the African countries, T-90С ran over the airfield's concrete at one gas station during heat for 50 degrees on the order of 730 km versus passport 500-550 km. The speed exceeded 65 km / h.

I believe. I do not doubt that the crew at +50 in the shadows traveled 700 km in the tank (more than 10 hours) and did not die from heat stroke. It was just that there was a special crew in which the protein does not collapse at +42.2 and Africa is different there. Not one in which for 10 hours the temperature can not stay at +50 or even +40. In the Africa that I know during the day, the temperature can be more than +40 in the shade, but at night it drops to less than +30.

[andj61]

It is possible to prepare ONE tank for window dressing, and the crew (or maybe only the driver’s arm) can be changed a couple of times for testing, especially if the tests were carried out on the concrete of the airfield, almost in a circle. But in real life, why should a tank run for five hundred kilometers, burning the engine and chassis resource? All the same, the task of the tanks is different. In Libya, the younger Gaddafi very efficiently used trailers for transporting tanks even over fifty kilometers, which still did not help him win.
In general, the article is too small: based on insufficient data to draw far-reaching conclusions.

[uwzek]

On the T-90 there is air conditioning (I'm talking about export options), installed instead of one of the spare parts boxes on the tower.

[max702]

Well, Duc, and for you every BREM tank drives with a spare engine, and if the slightest breakdown occurs, then it takes 20 minutes and is back in service, and if trouble happens on a just-changed engine, then a working engine will take care of the BREM and replace it indefinitely .. .

[Professor]

Quote: max702

Well, Duc, and for you every BREM tank drives with a spare engine, and if the slightest breakdown occurs, then it takes 20 minutes and is back in service, and if trouble happens on a just-changed engine, then a working engine will take care of the BREM and replace it indefinitely .. .

Something like this. Israeli repairmen have always been famous for their dexterity. The main thing is to return it to battle as quickly as possible, and if for this it is necessary to change the engine, then the engine will be changed.
By the way, in pursuit of the cool videos where the power plant in the Leopard is changed in 15 minutes, at the "demonstration performances" the repairmen, consisting only of conscripts, performed the same procedure in 10 minutes. According to one of the participants, this is not surprising if everything is going "as it should". And if someone installed the SU and, say, not the thread, tightened the bolts with all the foolishness, then replacing the SU can take a very long time ...

[A1L9E4K9S]

It’s just that someone wanted to push Russia away from the Middle East market, and criticism climbed out of all the cracks.

[Aleks tv]

Khlopotov again for his own: simply inserts the sticks into the wheels of one, praising the others.
"Tank expert" is arranged by a natural tankosrach ...
I think that the T-90S itself does not need such "glory".

And here is the phrase:

The fact is that as the speed increases and the engine speed increases and the fan speed becomes larger, the air pumping through the radiators increases dramatically (because the relationship is not linear) and, accordingly, the cooling improves.

So I want to say:
Mr. Khlopotov, ANY machan diesel engineer familiar with the B-46-6 (and further modifications) will tell you even when you are drunk and dead asleep at the same time:
To cool the engine, switch to the LOWEST gear and increase the RPM by expelling the hot air by the fan.
Nobody increases speed, this is not a passenger car.

[andj61]

Quote: Aleks tv

To cool the engine, switch to the LOWEST gear and increase the RPM by expelling the hot air by the fan.
Nobody increases speed, this is not a passenger car.

Simple, accurate, competently!

[Tankmaster]

The article is written by a complete amateur. The first photo is a good photo montage, if the T-80UD drove with the MTO roof open, the cooling system would not work at all, and the smoke would fall from the starboard side.
Author Lev Romanov is a very bad person who works with "pin ... kimi" methods in the network, Khlopotov is still the same "Expert", I would gladly drive these two "experts" at the training ground ... my tank would definitely shine after their work in languages.

[Barakuda]

Well, what then, "Abrams", in which the turbine eats sand with a bang, and eats fuel as if not all? and they will be reanimated only in the USA, the floor of the tank must be disassembled, and new engines have not been produced for a long time. "Leclerc", "Leopard" - Everyone knows about the sky-high prices, but in terms of maintainability in general, they are not suitable for our tank industry!

[Giant thought]

Ukrainian tanks have significant flaws, and therefore there are problems.

[Georgich]

Quote: Armagedon

Hmm ... Ukrainians and TANKS cannot do ... WHAT THEY CAN ... Just DOWNLOAD ... !!!

hat-hat-hat

[Aslan]

the article is not about anything

[Wolka]

yes normal T-80U tanks, in the hands of the natives any weapon a pile of scrap metal, carefully study the materiel gentlemen ...
By the way, abrams, leklerki and other Western crafts under such operating conditions do not even get into the dust of the T-80U ...

[goose]

Quote: viktorrymar

Do you need to have new tank models appear every 10 years, and even conceptually new ones?

Yes, new, with a new interior design. To me, please, a little red one, so that the machine would be with adaptive suspension, and so that it would not break ... until the next MOT. And there - a new model will be.

[samoletil18]

I read both the article and the comments. And I did not find what I was looking for. So which tank does not have problems in a hot desert? No one wrote. For it is clear that no.

[Sergei75]

Dear, is the Omsk Tank Plant alive? And what is Kirovsky doing now?

[bubble82009]

An interesting fact is the fuel economy of the T-90S. but the question is. asphalt for the tank is a gentle mode. But how on the road in the sand? it’s harder to move around the tank

[Dub4ik]

Quote: Platoon

The conclusion about overheating "eighties" is made on the basis of one photo.

Shh, you need to chase the tank, Ukrainians did

Quote: Angro Magno

But I remember that Pakistanis were warned at one time. Do not mess ....

Quote: podpolkovnik

Iraq risked contact too ...
In the end ... you know.

Quote: Armagedon

Hmm ... Ukrainians and TANKS cannot do ... WHAT THEY CAN ... Just DOWNLOAD ... !!!

Well and all in the same vein

[vladsolo56]

T-80 with diesel is the best option for export, if for Russia, then diesel is wrecking.

[uwzek]

A photo of a T-90 with a "raised MTO roof" is an unambiguous photoshop, believe the person who, among other things, installs these roofs. In this form, these roofs (they do not weigh two kilograms) cannot be fixed on a moving tank. Yes, and standing too ...
Anyone who has seen live the T-90, T-72 tanks (the design of the MTO roofs and the roof over the radiators is the same - the difference in details), understands that in this position the roof block on the tank cannot be fixed, since then the roof over the radiators will be hang only on the lock, and after how many seconds of movement will it break it?

[uwzek]

The frequency of rotation of the T-90 fan is absolutely linearly dependent on the engine speed - there is a mechanical gearbox (two-stage, but manually switched, second gear designed for winter conditions)

[Tankmaster]

Quote: Georgich

Quote: Armagedon

Hmm ... Ukrainians and TANKS cannot do ... WHAT THEY CAN ... Just DOWNLOAD ... !!!

hat-hat-hat

Down, T-80UD is still an allied development.