Svanidze is an ally of Germany

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Nikolai Karlovich Svanidze - one of the “talking heads” that often appears on the screen, furiously muddies history their homeland. It is not by chance that the Goebbels Prize was awarded to him. Why is he often invited to radio and TV? That is why. Because it will broadcast a volley of anti-Russian and anti-state cliches and myths. And so valuable.

But recently, on the air of a conscientious television channel with dubious foreign funding called “The Rain”, he said words to which I would like to pay special attention.

Svanidze is an ally of Germany


In the next program of this TV channel, where a decent person after a blasphemous questioning about the blockade and walking is impossible, Nikolai Svanidze said:

"And everything I have mentioned: the annexation of the Baltic countries, the Finnish war, the invasion of Poland as an ally of Hitler's Germany, this is part of the Second World War."

Recently, liberals have begun to use one trick especially often: to call the USSR an ally of Germany. This is not an accident, this is not a trend. This is a reception. This is the first stage of the Window Overton - the technology of dehumanization. Its meaning is in the consistent and systematic introduction of certain images and concepts into the public consciousness, with the goal of making some previously impossible things trivial and self-evident.

The thesis "The USSR and Germany are allies at the first stage of the Second World War" was removed from the state of "absurdity" to the state of "personal opinion." Moreover, the opinion of the “historian” - and Mr. Svanidze is positioning himself that way, until he is pinned to the wall by uncomfortable questions. Then he admits that he is not a historian and everything that was written and what he said is just his opinion, which has nothing to do with historical science.

The next step is the formation of a sustainable thesis “The USSR, on a par with Germany, is to blame for unleashing World War II.” He was supposedly an ally. And finally - the final. From here, just one step to the accusation of the USSR in the outbreak of the Second World War. And even the Great Patriotic. And what will sound quite logical, if we introduce the original thesis in the category of "undoubted facts." And then - next gloom.

After all, this is exactly how the new generation of Nazis in Ukraine was being raised - a small step here, then another - there ... Here they slightly corrected history, they shifted the accent - and now Bandera is fighting the Nazis and the Soviet army "for an independent Ukraine." And the killer and the terrorist becomes a hero.

And now the historical truth. An ally is not just a term. This is a statement of the existence of a UNION AGREEMENT. Let's set Nikolai Karlovich a direct question: when and where did the Soviet Union conclude an allied treaty with Germany? And we do not need emotions and evasions. Show the union contract.

The historical truth is this - there was no union between the USSR and Germany.

What happened?

1. There was a non-aggression pact, between the two countries from 23 August 1939. Especially for Svanidze cite his text. Let him show lines in which the parties pledge to support each other with armed force.

Nonaggression Pact between Germany and the Soviet Union
Government of the USSR and the Government of Germany

Guided by the desire to strengthen the cause of peace between the USSR and Germany, and proceeding from the main provisions of the treaty of neutrality concluded between the USSR and Germany in April 1926, the following agreement was reached:

Article I

Both Contracting Parties undertake to refrain from any violence, from any aggressive action and any attack against each other, both separately and jointly with other powers.

Article II

In the event that one of the Contracting Parties becomes the object of military action by a third power, the other Contracting Party will not support this power in any form.

Article III

The governments of both Contracting Parties will remain in contact with each other in the future for consultation in order to inform each other about issues affecting their common interests.

Article IV

None of the Contracting Parties will participate in any grouping of powers that directly or indirectly directed against the other party.

Article V

In the event of a dispute or conflict between Contracting Parties on issues of one kind or another, both parties will resolve these disputes or conflicts exclusively by peaceful means in a friendly exchange of views or, if necessary, by setting up commissions to resolve the conflict.

Article VI

This contract is concluded for a period of ten years so that since one of the Contracting Parties does not denounce it a year before the expiration of the term, the contract is automatically renewed for the next five years.

Article VII.

This treaty is subject to ratification as soon as possible. The exchange of instruments of ratification must take place in Berlin. The contract enters into force immediately after its signing.

Compiled in two originals, in German and Russian, in Moscow, August 23 1939.

In the contract, not a word about the union.

What other treaties did the USSR and Germany have before 22 of June 1941 of the year, which Hitler terminated with his attack on a par with the agreement of 23.08. 1939?

The trade agreements and credit texts (Germany gave a loan to the Soviet Union to buy equipment, the latest military equipment, etc. from it). Countries trade, and there’s nothing special about it. No union. On the emotional promise of Svanidze, “that de Hitler was traded,” we will answer that the USSR traded equally with Great Britain and France until its defeat. From trade did not refuse, traded with all countries, remaining in the PART FROM WORLD WAR! Why Svanidze does not call Germany the US ally? After all, the States traded with Hitler until he declared war on them after Pearl Harbor in December 1941.

Why Svanidze does not condemn Ireland? After all, 2 September 1939, the Irish officially declared their neutrality! As a result, virtually the entire Second World War, some hundred miles from the British coast, in Dublin worked the diplomatic missions of Germany, Italy, and Japan. Along with the intelligence services of these countries.

Why does not Svanidze require repentance and punishment for Sweden? That's who exactly, according to the logic of Svanidze, is an ally of Hitler. After all, Sweden supplied the whole of World War II with iron ore. And often was the ONLY source of its receipt. The Swedes would not sell ore, the whole machine of Wehrmacht would have gotten back in 1939. Where are you, Nikolai Karlovich?

But Svanidze does not condemn anyone except the USSR, because the USSR and Stalin must be demonized, and the United States, Sweden and Ireland should not. That's all.

We are interested only in those documents that at least somehow can be pulled “behind the ears” and called “union”.

After August 1939, the USSR concluded with Germany ...

AGREEMENT ON FRIENDSHIP AND THE BORDER BETWEEN THE USSR AND GERMANY.

28 SEPTEMBER 1939

After the collapse of the former Polish state, the Government of the USSR and the German Government are viewed solely as their task to restore peace and order in this territory and to provide for the peoples living there a peaceful existence corresponding to their national characteristics. To this end, they agreed on the following:

1. The Government of the USSR and the German Government establish as a border between mutual state interests on the territory of the former Polish state, which is plotted on the attached map and will be described in more detail in the additional protocol.

2. Both Parties recognize the border established in Article 1, mutual state interests as final, and eliminate any interference by third powers in this decision.

3. The necessary government reorganization in the territory to the west of the line indicated in the article is made by the German Government, in the territory to the east of this line - by the Government of the USSR.

4. The Government of the USSR and the German Government regard the above-mentioned reorganization as a reliable foundation for the further development of friendly relations between their peoples.

5. This treaty is subject to ratification. The exchange of instruments of ratification should take place as soon as possible in Berlin. The contract comes into force from the moment of its signing. Compiled in two originals, in German and Russian.

Mr. Svanidze, please show the article, which is written about the Union between the two countries?

We have a clear desire to carry out forgery - to issue a non-aggression agreement or a border for a UNION agreement. To blacken the Soviet Union, Stalin personally and to launch the process of changing public consciousness on the principle of "Overton Window".

In fact, those myths and lies that Svanidze and his ilk are trying to “squeeze” into the public consciousness are not new. In 1947, the United States launched the first information war against the USSR using precisely these terms. And the very first attack was ... in 1940.

And he broke the myths and lies that are spread today by Svanidze - V. M. Molotov, Commissar for Foreign Affairs. Broke back in February 1940.

21 February 1940, the People's Commissar for Foreign Affairs Molotov, sends an indication to the USSR Ambassador to England, May. Its text is written very clearly. Reading it, you catch yourself thinking that they wrote it not only for English diplomats, but also for modern “independent” journalists and “honest” historians. After all, to create the necessary public opinion inside Britain and France, the Soviet Union in the “free press” stubbornly called and represented an ally of Berlin.

“1). We consider it ridiculous and offensive to us not only a statement, but even just the assumption that the USSR supposedly entered into a military alliance with Germany;

2) the economic agreement with Germany is only an agreement on trade, according to which export from the USSR to Germany reaches only 500 million marks, and the agreement is economically beneficial to the USSR, since the USSR receives a large number of machines and equipment from Germany, as well as a fair amount of weapons , the sale of which, as is known, was denied to us both in England and in France;

3) as the USSR was neutral, so it will remain neutral, unless, of course, Britain and France attack the USSR and force them to take up weapon.

Persistently spreading rumors about a military alliance between the USSR and Germany are being heated not only by certain elements in Germany itself to pacify England and France, but also by some agents of England and France themselves who wish to use the supposed “transition of the USSR to Germany’s camp” for their specific purposes in the field of internal politicians". / Source: O. Rzheshevsky, Stalin and Churchill, M, Eksmo, 2010, C.6

In conclusion, a small lesson in “logic from Svanidze”.

Svanidze against Stalin and the Stalinist USSR. Germany was against Stalin and the Stalinist USSR.

Germany led the information war as part of a general war against the USSR and Stalin. Svanidze leads the information war against the USSR and Stalin.

Hitler's Germany and Svanidze have the same enemies. With whom they fought (fight) in the information field.

So - Svanidze and Germany are allies in the information war against the USSR and Stalin.

Svanidze is an ally of Germany.

PS On April 24, 2014, the website of the State Committee for Television and Radio Broadcasting of Ukraine published methodological material on the celebration of Victory Day. (http://comin.kmu.gov.ua/control/uk/publish/article?art_id=112237&cat_id=77135).

Nikolai Karlovich Svanidze can be very pleased. This coaching for the celebration of the Victory in Ukraine was written by his associates.

Here and "the USSR - an ally of the Third Reich", and a red poppy instead of the St. George ribbon. And the focus is not on 9, but on 8, May. Here is the “Putin regime”, by the way.

What can I say? The work of dividing our great Russian people, consisting of Great Russians, Little Russians and Belarusians, is continuing. And “Svanidze” makes their own contribution to this work ...
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  1. EsTaF
    +53
    13 June 2014 21: 21
    "Nikolai Karlovich Svanidze is one of the" talking heads "that often appear on the screen, furiously throwing mud at the history of his Motherland."

    He hardly watered his homeland with mud.
    1. kirqiz ssr
      +93
      13 June 2014 21: 32
      his homeland is the one for whom he works and fulfills loot kurva.
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      2. iw-lankof2011
        +57
        13 June 2014 22: 18
        When will there be at least someone who purely in a manly way will fill this lop-eyed slobbery muzzle, without being afraid to smear his hands !?
        1. SSR
          +19
          14 June 2014 00: 03
          Quote: iw-lankof2011
          When will there be at least someone who purely in a manly way will fill this lop-eyed slobbery muzzle, without being afraid to smear his hands !?

          Probably I could and would even do it with great pleasure, I just didn’t think seriously for one reason - we go on different roads and the probability of meeting is very small.
          Ps
          All SWINE must be driven up and down (SWINE V. and. Novodvorskaya, well, the rest of the pigs are Alekseevs, Svinidze and Co.).
          1. +8
            14 June 2014 01: 02
            Quote from S.S.R.
            I guess I could and would even do it with great pleasure,

            And to me this carcass is not an "enemy". When I meet him on the asphalt, I’ll be at a loss ... I don’t know what to do, I don’t want to sit for a bitch, hatred for such a rush, but I try to throw it out (hatred) in a very metered manner ...
            I do not understand the shouts, such exclamations "kill! Trample ..."

            Do you want ... Go! Kill it!
            This is a "state csuka". She is fed by the state, it will not give offense. This scum, like a fucking lymphocyte - "fights dissent" ...
            Whoever is a lymphocyte will join "the fight". He will get on the "object glass at the microscope" ...
            Whoever knocks out this infectious spit from the "state. Bydalov" will end up on the list of "erythrocytes", too much active erythrocytes ...

            Either you kill / banish the "Zionidzei" - or you put up with them over your exorcism ... Or pay ...
          2. +18
            14 June 2014 05: 51
            The fate of the Russophobe and traitor Svanidze and others like him, in dangerous pre-storm times, should be the same - "smear the forehead with green paint", providing the highest measure of social protection of the state and people.
            1. +2
              14 June 2014 10: 38
              Quote: vladimirZ
              there should be one - "smear the forehead with brilliant green"

              It’s necessary to throw a rope at such people, and not shoot. This means that it is possible (rope) can be soaped. Well, it's in the mood.
            2. 0
              16 June 2014 08: 53
              Or a point to sharpen. And after that !!
          3. +3
            14 June 2014 20: 12
            All SWINE must be driven up and down (SWINE V. and. Novodvorskaya, well, the rest of the pigs are Alekseevs, Svinidze and Co.).

            Bolotnaya Square and I almost flirted with democracy. This is how our president (I’m not talking about our Prime Minister Ivanushka) was crazy enough to untwist everything and give a fitting rebuff through exposing. Only now you understand, using the example of Hohland, where the legs grow from. Therefore, put it together talkative herd and send the suitcase-station to its owners. And certainly close your mouth in our country and not powder the brains of youth.
        2. +9
          14 June 2014 00: 52
          Quote: iw-lankof2011
          When there is at least someone who purely manly stuffs this lop-eyed slobbery muzzle,not afraid to smear your hands!?

          They are kicking the roosters, because touching them with their hands backwards.
          1. +1
            14 June 2014 01: 59
            Quote: Nagan
            They are kicking the roosters, because touching them with their hands backwards.

            "Crest" (certain) generally beaten in the west, even with feet or hands, so as not to be greasy through TOUCH.
            They are extinguished, at best, by tubarets or felt boots with stuffed wet sawdust over the kidneys.
            Usually, the "head-mother" from the cockpit is appointed "responsible for the lowering", "she" and prokubaturit for the "graters" with the boys from the "decisive hut" ...
          2. raven8888
            0
            22 July 2014 11: 28
            ... kicks ... hands backward ...

            and legs not accepted. There are for example stools.
        3. postman
          -4
          14 June 2014 03: 21
          Quote: iw-lankof2011
          When there is at least someone who purely manly stuffs this lop-eyed slobbery face, n

          Go ahead (if you have the courage): Nikolai Karlovich Svanidze = you can easily find the registration address while sitting on the couch, having a beer, on the Internet, or on Aprazhka SD to buy with a base
          Diarrhea does not torment?
          CC RF
          Article 119. The threat of murder or serious bodily harm

          1. The threat of murder or the infliction of grievous bodily harm, if there were grounds to fear the realization of this threat, is
          Shall be punishable by compulsory labor for a term of one hundred eighty to two hundred and forty hours, either restriction of liberty for a term of up to two years, or arrest for a term of up to six months, or imprisonment for a term of up to two years.
          2. The same act, committed on the basis of political, ideological, racial, national or religious hatred or hostility, or on the basis of hatred or hostility against any social group -
          punished by imprisonment for a period of up to five years with the deprivation of the right to occupy certain positions or engage in certain activities for a period of up to three years or without it.

          ============
          Here is the question WHERE IS THIS PENTUCH APOLLON, WHICH CONTROLS EVERYTHING AND HANGING BATHS ON "NORMAL" PEOPLE AND "CUT IN THE EYES" IN THE URY OF DURRNEY?
          WELL OR SSmirnov in the end, which 1 violation of the rules of the site due to poor vision (or mind) turns into 4re?
          and?
        4. +2
          14 June 2014 04: 40
          Why strain bully They will adopt the law on dual citizenship, and he himself will instantly dump to his historical homeland, to the undeveloped victims of the Holocaust drinks
          1. +5
            14 June 2014 07: 26
            Quote: baitly
            Adopt a dual citizenship law,


            Our shitty DUMA can and will accept the Law, but clearly in favor of such freaks. And the desire of our tolerant liberal government leads to the fact that:
            "Svanidze is one of the" talking heads "often appearing on the screen, furiously throwing mud at the history of his homeland. It is no coincidence that the Goebbels Prize was awarded to him."
            And, unfortunately, we often see such swanidz on TV screens.
            But where are our fighters for democracy? Or is this the main indicator of democracy? This democracy is very like Westerners of all stripes.

            AND SUCH MUCH:
        5. +2
          14 June 2014 04: 40
          Why strain bully They will adopt the law on dual citizenship, and he himself will instantly dump to his historical homeland, to the undeveloped victims of the Holocaust drinks
          1. +1
            15 June 2014 14: 34
            We’ll skip this, so they will arrange it in the promised Holocaust ....
        6. -2
          14 June 2014 06: 25
          Quote: iw-lankof2011
          When will there be at least someone who purely in a manly way will fill this lop-eyed slobbery muzzle, without being afraid to smear his hands !?

          So go ahead, who's stopping?
        7. +1
          14 June 2014 10: 48
          What's the use? To such Svanidzhey do not reach anyway. They see their actions as a crusade, as a kind of mission. Covering information, reinterpreting the facts, using the fruits of educational reform, they form a new consciousness in the minds of victims of the exam. How many of our people clearly remember the main milestones of the Russian state over the past century? Those who still studied at the Soviet school, they remember. Modern youth does not know and does not want to know. This very youth is the main contingent of students. We must teach our history, increase our level of self-awareness and education, and not pass the USE. We will clearly know that there was no union — no Karlovichi will lead us astray.

          Shl. On June 12 of this year on ORT at about midnight Parfenov's film "The Color of the Nation" was shown. No politics. Only old landscapes and sorrow for what was lost. This is something similar that forms love for the homeland. And such programs are specially hidden at a later time, exposing imbits from different talk shows!
      3. +7
        13 June 2014 22: 45
        Are they still listening to him somewhere ??? Forgive me mom, good son ...
        1. cutsolia
          +3
          14 June 2014 00: 16
          They listen and watch this Rain, I know such people. After my "lectures" the listeners went underground and they no longer tell me what they heard.
      4. +26
        13 June 2014 22: 59
        Svanidze - Lyashko's ally - both
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        1. 0
          14 June 2014 04: 36
          Dill - what is it? Ukrainians chtol? Well then, you're a western bastard.
          Remember, Ukrainians and Bandera are not the same thing.
          1. nvv
            nvv
            +1
            14 June 2014 05: 35
            Quote: KAMLS
            Dill - what is it? Ukrainians chtol? Well then, you're a western bastard.
            Remember, Ukrainians and Bandera are not the same thing.

            When you read, turn on the head first, and then the emotions. Look carefully at what dill, this husband with a scythe is going to mow. And for the reptile, in the place of the Himalayan, I would give birth to you. I set a plus if I realized catch up and apologize
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            2. +2
              14 June 2014 10: 26
              - Alas, there is no chance.
              This is from the series: - Do you know that in the south-east of Ukraine they used phosphorus mortar mines?
              - And what, did Russia apply them?

              I’ll explain to you that dill is anyone who obeys the orders of the current leadership of the Ukrainian military and special services against anti-fascists.
              1. nvv
                nvv
                0
                15 June 2014 13: 09
                [quote = Himalayan] - Alas, there is no chance.
                A little chicken pecking.
          2. +1
            15 June 2014 13: 54
            Don’t be offended please, I think that he had in mind exactly Bandera. That's it.
        2. 0
          15 June 2014 14: 36
          Cutting .... yes in more detail
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      6. +10
        13 June 2014 23: 37
        people like him (rootless cosmopolitans) have no homeland, in principle, he roams like locusts where there is something to eat and there is something to spoil, and under the liberal intelligentsia he mows down for entourage and following the fashionable trend in that party, the time will come to tearfully ask standing the walls for which he is shot because he is the conscience of the people, only that same people do not think so.
        1. +12
          14 June 2014 01: 09
          Quote: tilovaykrisa
          under the liberal intelligentsia mows for entourage

          gygy, "it's time to mow ... dill" laughing And you do not get fooled by liberal snot yourself and do not give others. If at least their children are taught their history not "according to the school curriculum", but by conscience and truth, all these Svanidzas will either bite off their own hands (starting from the nails), or with screams "this is a wild country, they don't love me here" over the hill - to lecture in London, hmm ... Maybe an intelligentsia get-together somewhere in the Moscow attic and it is nice to kick Stalin's corpse, but normal people don't come there! So, keep your head "in the cold" (or coldness in your head), and no rotten "rain" will wet it. Amen. lol
      7. +6
        14 June 2014 00: 21
        You just need to do as then under Stalin and later, I don’t like it, go abroad to ask for political asylum! There is nothing to allow such kites to air in our country. Criticism should be justified, not fictitious, far-fetched! Svinidze lost all the fights! A normal person after such a nose would not have shown on the street. That's the price he sold for the loot, all!
        1. postman
          -1
          14 June 2014 04: 43
          Quote: Thompson
          You just need to do as then under Stalin and later, I don’t like it, go abroad to ask for political asylum!

          How does it look like:
          Suitcase, station, Moscow
          "If you become Alena, then you need to pack your bags and leave for Muscovy," Farion said to a preschool girl who identified herself as Olenka. In her opinion, the boy Misha should be Mikhailik.


          ===============
          Do you have a brain?
          Have you ever wondered WHAT YOU DIFFERENT FROM FARION and PROPOSECTRON SCRIPT?
          (They LOVE the same MOTHERLAND, their truth (Ukraine) and in their own way)

          mark our + on them -
          so that is all
        2. +6
          15 June 2014 14: 39
          And others like them ....
      8. +1
        14 June 2014 14: 10
        "Nikolai Karlovich Svanidze is one of the" talking heads "that often appear on the screen, furiously throwing mud at the history of his Motherland."
        I believe that for Nikolai Karlovich von Svanidzewhere it’s warm, there’s the homeland. With respect.
        1. 0
          15 June 2014 14: 40
          Warmer than hell will not be .....
      9. 0
        15 June 2014 15: 40
        He's just - scum!
    2. -59
      13 June 2014 21: 35
      Quote: EsTaF
      “Nikolai Karlovich Svanidze is one of the“ talking heads ”that often appear on the screen, furiously throwing mud at the history of his homeland.“ He hardly threw mud at his homeland.

      Nikolai Karlovich Svanidze (genus. 2 April 1955 years, Moscow) - Russian TV journalist, historian [1] [2] [3] [4], professor [5], head of the journalism department of the Institute of Mass Media RSUH [5]
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      2. +25
        13 June 2014 22: 02
        Aron Zaawi (5) IL
        .... it is becoming increasingly clear that among the great, long-suffering with the amazing history of the Jewish people there are geeks ..
        1. +9
          13 June 2014 23: 05
          Quote: 222222
          Aron Zaawi (5) IL
          .... it is becoming increasingly clear that among the great, long-suffering with the amazing history of the Jewish people there are geeks ..

          To be honest, I do not care who Mr. Svanidze is by nationality. Just a boy born in 1955 in Moscow, in a family of very successful career people
          Father - Karl Nikolaevich Svanidze (born 1921), one of the leaders of Politizdat under the Central Committee of the CPSU, worked all his life in a large publishing house. Mom - Adelaida Anatolyevna Svanidze (born 1929), doctor of historical sciences, historian-medievalist, was a major specialist in medieval Scandinavia, taught at Moscow State University and Russian State University for the Humanities.
          , who studied at a Soviet school, and then at Moscow State University, is by no means an agent of imperialism. It's just that this is a man whose point of view is absolutely contrary to the opinion of most Russians. You can kill him, drive him out of the country, etc., or you can prove your point of view in a tough intellectual discussion. It has long been proven that a word is defeated only by a word, and an idea by an idea. And statements such as the fact that Svanidze fell from the moon to Russia only weaken the position of his counter-opponents.
          PS By the way, do you know why I'm not offended by the minuses for my previous post? It's just that there are very few serious, knowing men left on this forum, whose opinions I read with such interest when I came to the forum, in military-historical topics, but the release of andrenaline instead of an argument did not seem to be offended.
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          2. +4
            13 June 2014 23: 15
            Aron Zawi (5) IL Today, 23:05 PM ↑ New
            . "... that Svanidze fell from the moon to Russia, .."
            If it were not for Svanidze, then it would be necessary to create it so in any space "a holy place is never empty."
            It's just that it has been playing on the same field for a very long time (like Echo of Moscow ") and still on the field causes bad suspicions .." And there is one warrior in the field "
            On the downside, I categorically try to put it ... "everyone should have the right to .. think not like everyone else .. ,,
          3. +2
            13 June 2014 23: 38
            Quote: Aaron Zawi
            By the way, do you know why I’m not offended by the minuses for my previous post? It’s just that very few serious, knowing men remained on this forum, whose opinions I read with such interest when I came to the forum, in military-historical topics, but the release of andrenaline instead of an argument didn’t make me offended.

            I support you! The rhetoric of the forum, as well as the contingent of visitors, have changed dramatically over the past two months. With each passing day, the forum more and more resembles the notorious censor, with his insults and clichéd calls, unfortunately!
            1. BYV
              +11
              14 June 2014 00: 25
              Quote: Nekarmadlen
              I support you! The rhetoric of the forum, as well as the contingent of visitors, have changed dramatically over the past two months. With each passing day, the forum more and more resembles the notorious censor, with his insults and clichéd calls, unfortunately!

              I strongly agree! However, take me for example. I have been on this site for about three years. I always read articles with interest, and with even greater interest - the comments of our highly respected members of the forum. But I didn't even want to register, because in my case "Chukchi is not a writer, Chukchi is a reader." However, in light of the events in Ukraine, I wanted to express my opinion, I wanted to talk with like-minded people. I'm sure there are a lot of people like me on this site. Many people want to speak out, and not always people can restrain their emotions. Naturally, not everyone's point of view coincides with the generally accepted one. But, in my opinion, this is what distinguishes our intelligent site from many others like it. And yes, I do not accept the rudeness and insults of the opponent. We're not Censor. No, are we?
              1. Ujin61
                0
                14 June 2014 01: 16
                Another couple of "offended" appeared. So they carry water to them.
                1. 0
                  14 June 2014 11: 24
                  Quote: Ujin61
                  Another couple of "offended" appeared. So they carry water to them.

                  Comrade, the context of sending another, behold the root.
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                  2. 0
                    15 June 2014 15: 01
                    And who among decent people on the street will meet a kick in the ass .... Well, do not dirty your hands about this pi.dora
          4. +18
            14 June 2014 00: 17
            Say Aron, and in your own homeland do you also treat your public people who tarnish the long-suffering history of Israel and conduct parallels between Jews and fascists ???
            You know, I very much doubt that you justify such Mr-Azey.
            P.S. And one more thing: if you read the opinion of most people on this site without interest, this does not mean that they are all not serious and not knowing men.
          5. SSR
            +13
            14 June 2014 00: 20
            Ay ah Aron, in vain you are so. Aron, according to your USSR, people born after the collapse of the USSR were falling apart? Shevarnadze for example. Aron, you read at your leisure a biography of Baturin, no, he is not this one but he ... Read his memories. (not a dissident but him, indicative)
            Aron, and you read your zema's book, so to speak, "on the sunny side of the street", there is a moment as with publicity in the same Tashkent which was rotten before (a related guarantee, etc.) "businessmen" appeared who were actively spilling all the trash, trash having connections in the desks, so to speak, the apparatus?
            And there is a snow maiden Alekseeva, oh yes, but what about the greenmail guy? (you probably silently silently say that in the USA the greenmail people cut off oxygen to earn money). I’m writing crumpled from the phone is not convenient, it's just your post on how to mix flies and cutlets.
          6. +2
            14 June 2014 10: 30
            I have a feeling that this is not a point of view but money-making. I admit that I have never been so Putin for now. I’m just tired of this dirt. Distorting and manipulation.
        2. postman
          0
          14 June 2014 03: 26
          Quote: 222222
          long-suffering with an amazing history of the Jewish people there are geeks ..

          and among RUSSIAN, long-suffering, GREAT people, you think NO GEKER?
      3. +28
        13 June 2014 22: 10
        Quote: Aron Zaavi
        Nikolai Karlovich Svanidze

        It is named after his grandfather, the party leader Nikolai Samsonovich Svanidze, who was shot in 1937, and a distant relative of Joseph Stalin's first wife, E. S. Svanidze. Nikolai Svanidze’s paternal grandmother, Tsilya Isaakovna, was a member of the Bolshevik party]. According to Nikolai Svanidze, she hated Stalin

        Oh, Comrade was wrong. Stalin - left the neglect.
        1. Lyokhin63
          -16
          13 June 2014 23: 10
          The nose of the ancestor was not broken, the glasses are held straight. And so similar. But! How was his grandfather a party leader, shot in the 37th, and then put on a fascist uniform? Attic, is there life after death? Well, I do not like lies.
          1. +14
            13 June 2014 23: 45
            In the left photo, Heinrich Himler. It is time to already know the enemies in person.
            And the fact that his grandfather was shot speaks only of the fact of the shooting. But for what exactly? Not all were "German spies", there were also German spies.
            1. Lyokhin63
              -15
              14 June 2014 00: 50
              Quote: Comrade Bender
              In the left photo, Heinrich Himler. It is time to already know the enemies in person.

              I know the story. I know who Himmler is. But you guys are sharks. I do not have to know how Himler looked, he had already died long ago, why should I know him by sight? And to put them near, is not great honor? I would understand Yarosh. And who is Svanidze? Talk show host? Who is watching them. With these pictures, you are likened to the Ukropov media, which Putin and Hitler compare. Only you and the Attic have fallen something even below them. This is ugly, dear.
              1. BYV
                +7
                14 June 2014 01: 34
                Quote: Lyokhin63
                And who is Svanidze? Talk show host? Who is watching them.

                You shouldn't be so. Svanidze flashes on TV, broadcasts. Who is watching them? Yes, very many. It is these many who form a definite point of view on the USSR. It especially resonates with the "sensational revelations" of the 90s. Will you tell me that anyone interested in history will sweep aside these revelations? Duc who are interested and know the history are not so many. For example, did you know that the British planned aerial bombardments of oil fields in Baku in ... 1941, AFTER entering the war? And there are a lot of such historical facts. However, now the youth are grateful if they know that it was the USSR that made the main and decisive contribution to the fight against Nazi Germany.
                PS I don’t put a minus to you, but be careful with statements ...
              2. nvv
                nvv
                +1
                14 June 2014 07: 19
                Quote: Lyokhin63
                Quote: Comrade Bender
                In the left photo, Heinrich Himler. It is time to already know the enemies in person.

                I know the story. I know who Himmler is. But you guys are sharks. I do not have to know how Himler looked, he had already died long ago, why should I know him by sight? And to put them near, is not great honor? I would understand Yarosh. And who is Svanidze? Talk show host? Who is watching them. With these pictures, you are likened to the Ukropov media, which Putin and Hitler compare. Only you and the Attic have fallen something even below them. This is ugly, dear.

                You are discussing the outward similarity of these two faces here. SIMILAR. And if instead of the first one put the face of Goebels, it seems they are not similar in appearance, but the insides are one to one.
              3. 0
                14 June 2014 12: 01
                Quote: Lyokhin63
                I do not have to know how Himler looked, he had already died long ago, why should I know him by sight?


                My friend is no offense, history is the matter of past days, why then do you need to know her then ... well, judging by your own statements ...
              4. +2
                15 June 2014 15: 07
                And how is it? Beautiful? And so in life ... On earth, in heaven and at sea .....
          2. -1
            15 June 2014 15: 03
            I’m not sure for a point, but so-so ......
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      5. +28
        13 June 2014 22: 48
        In our history there have been more eminent and impeccable, from the point of view of the law, rulers, for example, Gorbachev. And they did much more harm than convicted Dzhugashvili, who took the country with a plow, and transferred it with a nuclear bomb.
      6. VSC
        +3
        13 June 2014 22: 49
        addiction-prostitution
        1. 0
          15 June 2014 15: 08
          Etingon is also a Jew ...
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      8. +6
        13 June 2014 23: 08
        Jew HE ......
        1. postman
          -2
          14 June 2014 03: 56
          Quote: pupkin70
          Jew HE ......

          CONSTITUTION OF THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION
          Chapter 2. The rights and freedoms of man and citizen
          Article 19
          ======
          I do not I (e) lie, but Pupkin70- DEEERMO
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      10. +6
        13 June 2014 23: 35
        Apparently one period of work "corrected him:" I worked at the Institute of the USA and Canada of the Russian Academy of Sciences. "Many were recruited there.
      11. +5
        13 June 2014 23: 53
        Quote: Aron Zaavi
        Russian television journalist, historian [1] [2] [3] [4], professor [5], head of the journalism department of the Institute of Massmedia of the Russian State Humanitarian University [5]

        and what did you mean by that ?!
      12. postman
        -5
        14 June 2014 03: 25
        Quote: Aron Zaavi
        Aaron Zawi

        Aron .... cons (you), unfortunately, can not be overcome from vegetables. They blame themselves in the face, from stupidity to see
      13. +1
        14 June 2014 11: 16
        Quote: Aron Zaavi
        Nikolai Karlovich Svanidze (born April 2, 1955, Moscow) - Russian TV journalist, historian [1] [2] [3] [4], professor [5], head of the journalism department of the Institute of Mass Media RSUH [5]

        The noble office indicated by the Russian State Humanitarian University doesn’t come out of scandals,
        The Audit Chamber of the Russian Federation has revealed serious violations in the use of budget funds at the RSUH and MPEI, said the Russian Audit Chamber auditor Sergei Agaptsov in an interview with RIA Novosti. According to him, a significant part of the money allocated for the maintenance and development of the material and technical base, universities spent on salaries to administrative and managerial personnel.

        “In the RSUH, funds in the amount of 156,2 million rubles were misused
      14. +1
        14 June 2014 17: 46
        Lysnul counted
      15. ittr
        +1
        14 June 2014 21: 38
        Students of the Institute of Mass Media RSUH! What do you think about the head of the journalism department N.K.Svanidze?
      16. 0
        15 June 2014 14: 41
        We are such speakers, in excavators ......
      17. 0
        16 June 2014 18: 26
        a journalist is a historian, in his case it is the same as a ballerina - a weightlifter. Unfortunately, Kolenka is too keen on prose about history, and this does not allow him to clearly see the facts from the documents.
    3. +15
      13 June 2014 21: 39
      So I live here and do not want to live in another country there immediately shut their mouths. And you can pour your shit on your homeland.
    4. +7
      13 June 2014 22: 19
      Quote: EsTaF
      He hardly watered his homeland with mud.

      How would a Georgian surname mislead you?
      Yes, everything is easier! It's Jewish again. Http://www.rus-obr.ru/opinions/7823
      If not laziness read.
      1. +6
        13 June 2014 23: 17
        I completely agree. All of them are prominent Russian figures. And Hakamada is also JAPAN ......... For the same reason, Prime Minister Kozak is persistently called Kozak .....
      2. 0
        13 June 2014 23: 17
        I completely agree. All of them are prominent Russian figures. And Hakamada is also JAPAN ......... For the same reason, Prime Minister Kozak is persistently called Kozak .....
    5. +14
      13 June 2014 22: 33
      And here on the topic ** the bucket penetrating our heads ** looking at trends (I'm talking about the Internet !!) and passing our opinions in favor of amers !!! my friends I also spoke about the fact that they saw such a race in the internet !!! Always think *** and do not swallow the information !!!!!!
      1. cutsolia
        +2
        14 June 2014 00: 34
        Trolls on the Internet are full of them right away in rhetoric. It is simply necessary to analyze the material yourself and preferably use your head.
      2. 0
        14 June 2014 14: 10
        Do not feed the trolls
      3. 0
        15 June 2014 15: 21
        Well, the Amero-Aphthanasians finally can go awry ......... I have less words And I think they’re holding a dog for it .... It turns out that the Russians are an order of magnitude smarter than the most intelligent P.I. endos)))
        Learn, brothers))) We’ll send them the same fat, on mursals ... I serve the Soviet Union !!!
    6. +9
      13 June 2014 22: 47
      Does the bastard really have a homeland?
      1. +3
        14 June 2014 01: 23
        Quote: pilot8878
        Does the bastard really have a homeland?

        No. For the most part. But for some reason, it very often coincides with nationality ...
        T.N. "a soul that hesitates and demands revenge" indicates ... what?
        Is the ritual "mezitsa" ...

        The nationality of the "associates" from Cromwell to Trotsky and later does not say anything. Your and My ENEMY is Kalomoyshovsky and people like him!
        Until you understand, you will absorb the foul oil blown in by the "arons" and "professors" into the soup ...
        You decide. To save you ... Maybe there will be no one ...
    7. +15
      13 June 2014 23: 16
      Hmm ... He probably forgot PRACTICALLY ALL EUROPE fought on the side of the Nazis ... And we weren’t the ones with Germany ... IN THEIR WANLESS, THEY blame THE COUNTRY where they grew up GET EDUCATION .... These JUDES ARE READY TO substitute their JOB under BOOT OF FASCISTS ... !!! Shouting at every corner That they are Russians ... Scum who do not remember KIND !!! We got the BAGS ... !!! 5 column pancake ... !!!
    8. +3
      14 June 2014 00: 06
      Svinidze is a mean fool! Who hates the country in which she lives. I am disgusted with vomiting.
      1. postman
        -2
        14 June 2014 04: 51
        Quote: yushch
        Svinidze vile Mr-az !!!


        Article 5.61 of the Code of Administrative Offenses of the Russian Federation. Insult
        n2. Insult contained in a public statement, a publicly displayed work or the media-

        shall be sanctioned by an administrative fineand citizens in the amount of three thousand to five thousand rubles; for officials - from thirty thousand to fifty thousand rubles; for legal entities - from one hundred thousand to five hundred thousand rubles

        fool
        Quote: yushch
        Which hates the country in which he lives.

        ?
        Nikolai Svanidze
        -S 2009 - Member Commission on countering attempts to falsify history to the damto the interests of Russia (before the liquidation of the commission in 2012)
        -included in Council under the President of the Russian Federation on the development of civil society and human rights.
        Awards
        ▪ Order "For personal courage" - for courage and dedication shown in the performance of professional duty in conditions associated with a risk to life (1994)
        ▪ TEFI Prize in the nomination “Best Presenter of an Information Program” –– “Details” Program (1995)
        (In total, he received 5 TEFI awards in three different nominations).
        ▪ Order of Honor - for a great contribution to the development of Russian television and radio broadcasting (2001)
        ▪ TEFI Award in the category “Professions” - program “Historical Chronicles” (2006)
        ▪ Medal of the Commissioner for Human Rights in the Russian Federation “Hurry up to do good” (2007)
        ▪ TEFI Prize in the nomination “History Program” - broadcast “The State of Emergency from Kornilov to the State Emergency Committee” from the cycle “Historical Process” (2012)


        ====
        What pifko was kiche? There’s such crap.
        Are you like (yourself)? Do you have a 3rd degree TRP icon?
    9. +1
      14 June 2014 02: 23
      What kind of Svanidze is he, he is Svinyadze.
    10. Shoma-1970
      +1
      14 June 2014 02: 36
      HE DOESN'T PUMP ON HIS MOTHERLAND, BECAUSE THERE WILL BE DROPPED ON THERE AT THE VISION OF HIM, HE PRINCIPLICALLY US-RUSSIANS AND DOSES RUSSIA, AND THIS CREATURE EASILY PASSES, IT'S MORE EVERYTHING SCAMS. It's a shame that they do not hang such!
    11. AVV
      0
      14 June 2014 09: 48
      Quote: EsTaF
      "Nikolai Karlovich Svanidze is one of the" talking heads "that often appear on the screen, furiously throwing mud at the history of his Motherland."

      He hardly watered his homeland with mud.

      Russia is the same Motherland for him as for Obama the Irusalim !!! This is a mishandled asshole, along with Makar, will trash the memory of the destroyed ancestors during World War II !!! It's time for the Duma to pass a law on distorting the history of the Motherland, a suitcase station wagon !!! Let the brain rinse there !!! Do not hell here on American grants ha.ryu eat up !!!
    12. irina.mmm
      0
      14 June 2014 12: 17
      What is he doing in Russia? We should already apply an article about the warped history of the Second World War. One will be imprisoned, the other will think. And the terms are from 15 to life.
    13. 0
      14 June 2014 14: 35
      Quote: EsTaF
      Nikolai Karlovich Svanidze

      Yes, the forum users will forgive me, but I noticed one moment. Sometimes in life there is either poisoning, or some other misfortune, when you need to cause a spasm, but you can’t. I noticed by myself, if at that time I remember vonidze, then a spasm immediately and do not put your fingers in your mouth. I wonder why?
    14. 0
      14 June 2014 17: 29
      What do you want from a humanoid who live said that his father raped and killed German women during the war ?! Not directly said, but said. If so he speaks of the FATHER, then what else to expect from him, except for guano.
    15. 0
      15 June 2014 00: 47
      Quote: EsTaF
      "Nikolai Karlovich Svanidze is one of the" talking heads "that often appear on the screen, furiously throwing mud at the history of his Motherland."

      He hardly watered his homeland with mud.


      Yes, he is not Svanidze, but Svinidze. The twisted surname of Svinidze reflects his true gut. A pig and a pig in Africa.
    16. 0
      15 June 2014 00: 47
      Quote: EsTaF
      "Nikolai Karlovich Svanidze is one of the" talking heads "that often appear on the screen, furiously throwing mud at the history of his Motherland."

      He hardly watered his homeland with mud.


      Yes, he is not Svanidze, but Svinidze. The twisted surname of Svinidze reflects his true gut. A pig and a pig in Africa.
    17. 0
      15 June 2014 09: 06
      It’s just necessary to collect all such figures (do not forget Hakamada, the shit to a member) and send them through dew, look for their historical homeland, and since for them the motherland is where they pay more, their path is endless. Maybe then they will understand a simple truth:Do not spoil where you live!
    18. 0
      15 June 2014 14: 30
      Svanidze - nobody ..... Strategic Missile Forces - goals in the USA
      The rest are in the knives .... And then we'll see
  2. +12
    13 June 2014 21: 22
    Maybe for a start he should read the history of the Motherland, and then try to moo something ...
    1. Arkhara
      +12
      13 June 2014 21: 51
      Quote: Monk
      Maybe for a start he should read the history of the Motherland, and then try to moo something ...

      He knows everything, understands everything. It is such a ... liberalist whoever paid the most dances it.
      1. avt
        +16
        13 June 2014 22: 15
        Quote: Arkhara
        It is such a ... liberalist whoever paid the most dances it.

        Well, not only, he is on his father's side from the Svanidze clan, well, from all the brethren of the first "commissars in dusty helmets", moreover, from the closest, almost relatives of Stalin's wife, from all those Aliluyev-Politkovskys whom Atets calmed down. vendetta, mother, too, from the "commissar" breed, she was winding up for a period of time. Stalin and "Ostap suffered."
        1. +4
          14 June 2014 01: 35
          Quote: avt
          of all these Aliluyevs-Politkovskys whom Athets calmed down. This is where his personal vendetta comes from, the mother, too, from the "commissar" breed, was winding up a term.

          Also, "avt", s.t., is there any reason to dislike the "commies" for their actions towards the NATION? ...
          I have - YES! With all my contempt for the "Novodvorsk" ...

          My ancestors (my grandfather has no right to make a decision, and my father was absolutely apolitical) would call the city on the Volga TsARITSYN ...
          Probably...
          But, living in the aforementioned city, it is possible that they would vote for "Stalingrad"!
          Grandfather was afraid of Stalin, he disliked Dad, and I, comparing with subsequent "rulers", understand that it was God's salvation of Russia - therefore - let there be STALINGRAD.
          After all, there was Kalinin, Ustinov, Brezhnev, etc.
          1. avt
            +3
            14 June 2014 09: 45
            Quote: Ptah
            a city on the Volga would be called TSARITSYN ...

            You will laugh, but for the Svanidze Milchins, this name also causes gag reflexes. According to their "enlightened" opinion, this is also a terrible Stalinism, not the same as with Stalingrad, but still Stalinism. Stalin was a member of the Revolutionary Council there in the Civil War and the defense of Tsaritsyn is directly connected with him, and this is a terrible sin for the name of the city in liberal terms.
            Quote: Ptah
            because - let it be STALINGRAD.

            request Well, for you, as well as for me and millions of people, not only in Russia, but also abroad, this is a symbol of a great military feat, and not retroactive settlement of accounts, and even with the deceased. It's funny when liberoids go into "de-Stalinization", on the proposal to go along the "universal, European" path to the end and start a fight for renaming Stalingradskaya Street, {or square, however, I forgot} their only non-kill argument is - "Yes God bless her with France! " laughing And all at once songs about the "totalitarian past" end. But in general it is interesting - if Alexey Svanidze, having arrived from Germany, would not have presented Nadezhda Aliluyeva with a pistol from which she shot herself ?? Would the current Svanidze have metal destalinized caviar in the media, or all the same in silence Cabinet meticulously dissected historical documents, trying to create a complete picture of the past? Or would he just sit relatively quietly like the same descendants of Khrushchev, or maybe like Molotov's grandson - Scriabin would make a career with GDP? Well, I would run some semi-state fund in France.
        2. mazhnikof.Niko
          +3
          14 June 2014 13: 07
          Quote: avt
          Volgograd themselves in a referendum have to decide the name of their city - Stalingrad or Volgograd all the same, it finally flew off because of hatred of Stalin and "Ostap suffered."

          Yes, here, not so much from hatred of J.V. Stalin, but from fear. If Stalingrad is returned, this will be a signal for the return of the truth of the HISTORY of Russia and, quite possibly, this story will return. Ah, this is H, M, O, so many lies that ... and they may demand an answer for everything said. Well, and feed on WHAT? He is a "fake" proKHVESSOR, a "cardboard" historian, but he is not a historian by his basic education. Therefore, it seems, he began to choke with FEAR. But, this is the lot of all traitors!
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  5. 0
    13 June 2014 21: 28
    "And everything I have mentioned: the annexation of the Baltic countries, the Finnish war, the invasion of Poland as an ally of Hitler's Germany, this is part of the Second World War."


    And Soviet historians, frankly, were not truly objective, but many of today's pseudo-historians distort historical facts. True, everyone has their own, and Truth is somewhere in the middle .....
    1. +4
      13 June 2014 22: 00
      Quote: RUSS
      True somewhere in the middle

      and meanwhile -
      Urgent: in the Rostov region shot down a helicopter of the Armed Forces of Ukraine
      A helicopter of the Ukrainian Armed Forces shot down over the border village of New Hope, Rostov Region, according to representatives of the national militia. A fire started at the scene, local residents are evacuated, the head of the DPR militia Igor Strelkov personally checks the information.

      "Now on the territory of Russia in the village of Novaya Nadezhda, a helicopter of the Ukrainian air forces has been shot down, residents are being evacuated, the aircraft has caught fire," Strelkov writes.

      The village is located one kilometer from the Russian-Ukrainian border in the Kuybyshevsky district of the Rostov region.

      Recall that earlier two armored personnel carriers violated the border with the Russian Federation in the Millerovo region.

      source - http://www.vladtime.ru/proish/377391-srochno-v-rostovskoy-oblasti-sbit-vertolet-


      vs-ukrainy.html
      If this is true, what will we do?

      About Ukrainian bookings -
      On the night of June 13, an armored infantry vehicle with soldiers subordinate to the Kiev junta violated the state border of the Russian Federation in the Rostov Region. Information about this was provided by Vasily Malayev, head of the press service of the border control of the FSB of the Russian Federation in the Rostov region.
      According to him, the junta BMP, which participated in a punitive operation on the territory of the Lugansk People’s Republic, for unknown reasons violated the Russian border and stalled in the area of ​​the city of Millerovo. The punitive left the BMP, returned to the territory of the LPR, but later again violated the state border of Russia and tried to start the car. Their attempts were thwarted by Russian border guards; border violators had to leave with nothing.

      An BMP has been discovered, and a pre-investigation check is currently underway.

      Russian President Vladimir Putin instructed the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs to make a demarche in connection with the violation of the Russian border and resistance to border guards by Ukrainian punishers. This was reported by presidential press secretary Dmitry Peskov.

      * Millerovo is a village in the Rostov Region, located less than a hundred kilometers from the Russian-Ukrainian border. It is located on both banks of the Sredny Tuzlov River (Don basin). About 500 people live in it.
      1. portoc65
        +2
        13 June 2014 22: 09
        Distribute to all villages near the Ukrainian border-pzrk. Let ukrovertushki shoot down.
        1. +3
          13 June 2014 22: 16
          According to unverified data:

          "13.06.14/20/05. XNUMX:XNUMX. Message from the militia.
          "Now a Ukrainian helicopter has been shot down on our territory near the village of Novaya Nadezhda, residents are being evacuated, it is on fire."
          The village of Novaya Nadezhda is located on the territory of the Russian Federation (Rostov Region, Kuibyshevsky District) a kilometer from the border.
          Information is checked and updated. "(C)
          1. +18
            13 June 2014 22: 18
            Ten helicopters set off for lunch
            One chewed a kilo of lead and there were nine left.
            Nine helicopters, taking off, pecking their nose
            One couldn’t lift his nose, and eight of them remained
            Eight helicopters left for Torez later
            One did not return, stayed in full measure
            Seven NAR helicopters volley issued all together
            One blew himself up - and there were six of them left
            Six helicopters flew apiary shoot
            Bumblebee fried one, and there were five left.
            Five helicopters immediately dismantled
            And they shot one, there are four of them left
            Four helicopters went camping over the sea
            One caught the bait, there were three left
            Three helicopters in Slavyansk turned out to be
            And with his RPG Babai ... That's all, only two remained
            Two helicopters flew in the sun
            One burned down - and behold, one, miserable, lonely,
            The last helicopter itself, looking tiredly at the flag
            He put Kalash to his head - and there was no one
          2. +10
            13 June 2014 23: 22
            Quote: mejik
            "13.06.14/20/05. XNUMX:XNUMX. Message from the militia.
            "Now a Ukrainian helicopter has been shot down on our territory near the village of Novaya Nadezhda, residents are being evacuated, it is on fire."
            The village of Novaya Nadezhda is located on the territory of the Russian Federation (Rostov Region, Kuibyshevsky District) a kilometer from the border.
            Information is checked and updated. "(C)

            The pilot is quick-witted, he realized that on the territory of the LPR he would be immediately torn to rags. But in Russia there is a chance to survive. And then feed ....
            1. +2
              13 June 2014 23: 39
              Quote: stalkerwalker
              And then feed ....

              Refugee status will be given, with the continuation ... what perhaps the funniest way to obtain Russian citizenship wassat
              Hi Ilyich! We, here with Yura, again, with buns ..., I wanted to say, join in, and the flag, like, but I saw it, is already in Denmark belay . Either crowded there in Europe, or on wings?
              1. +3
                13 June 2014 23: 41
                Quote: perepilka
                Either crowded there in Europe, or on wings?

                Guess three times .... wassat
                Quote: perepilka
                Hi Ilyich! We, here with Yura, again, with buns ..., I wanted to say, join

                I can not.... fellow
          3. cutsolia
            -1
            14 June 2014 00: 41
            Nobody paid attention, and a few days ago the Ukrainians were shooting and on our territory "by accident" of course there were several craters and unexploded shells ...
        2. Dracula
          0
          13 June 2014 23: 22
          I wanted to say it myself: if you don’t want or cannot protect people, organize a militia and distribute weapons. It’s just not our power.
      2. +3
        13 June 2014 22: 21
        give a discount on gas? what what to do, what to DO in such cases, what you NEED to do, bring all the military into full combat readiness, warn the entire population of our country that you should be prepared (you never know) and inflict a massive blow to the military of the junta. .that is what you NEED to do. well, and of course to carry out diplomatic cover for this step. Ups forgot, the military was then taken away in vain recourse
        1. cutsolia
          0
          14 June 2014 00: 46
          Where are our diplomats? An urgent COUNCIL meeting on all cases, now is just a very specific case.
      3. -18
        13 June 2014 22: 21
        Here is another version about the helicopter. And if this is true, then a clumsy preparation is being prepared for the deployment of troops. But as always, everything is through the ass.
        http://novosti-online.info/glavnye-novosti/135-informaciya-o-tom-chto-v-rostovsk
        oy-oblasti-sbit-helicopter-vvs-ukrainy-yavlyaetsya-nedostovernoy.html
        1. 0
          13 June 2014 22: 37
          Quote: suomi
          Here is another version about the helicopter.

          ..........
          and you don’t know that every detail of the aircraft contains a personal number, according to which its background to the seventh knee can be traced?
          Junta Troll ...
        2. 0
          14 June 2014 00: 00
          For Christ's sake, well, do not add fake news, otherwise we will agree before the landing of the armed forces of "democratic Mars" in the Rostov area with the support of the Jedi division
        3. 0
          14 June 2014 00: 15
          Quote: suomi
          Here is another version about the helicopter. And if this is true, then a clumsy preparation is being prepared for the deployment of troops. But as always, everything is through the ass.
          http://novosti-online.info/glavnye-novosti/135-informaciya-o-tom-chto-v-rostovsk

          oy-oblasti-sbit-helicopter-vvs-ukrainy-yavlyaetsya-nedostovernoy.html

          Oooh! Dear! Where did you dig such a dill site? Yes, and I believed ...
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        5. +1
          14 June 2014 00: 32
          Quote: suomi
          Here is another version about the helicopter. And if this is true, then a clumsy preparation is being prepared for the deployment of troops. But as always, all through the ass

          Through the oppa there are the USA, the EU and their Kiev henchmen. The unfortunate Psaka is not even able to cover them, so he looks like a round fool. So it's time for Lviv, even a little awkwardly.
      4. 0
        13 June 2014 23: 57
        Quote: Rus2012
        and meanwhile -
        Urgent: in the Rostov region shot down a helicopter of the Armed Forces of Ukraine

        but let’s not give out verified info from left sites for urgent news
    2. 11111mail.ru
      -2
      13 June 2014 22: 05
      Quote: RUSS
      True somewhere in the middle .....

      In vino veritas, in aqua sanitas = "Truth is in wine, health is in water."
    3. 0
      13 June 2014 22: 23
      Quote: RUSS
      True, everyone has their own, and Truth is somewhere in the middle .....

      Here they (our enemies) and want us to look for "the truth in the middle), and then a little more and .........
      Do not pour water on the enemies mill !!
    4. +2
      13 June 2014 23: 26
      Hmm ... True ONE WE ARE THE WINNER OF FASCISM ... !!! And the TRUTH is that these geeks are not worthy even to pronounce the name STALIN ... After their DREAMS, you feel a WISHED DESIRE to crush a READER ... !!!
    5. +1
      13 June 2014 23: 54
      The truth is not in the middle, it is in the documents. Read documentary sources more and more often and you won’t have to figure out where to find the middle.
    6. 0
      14 June 2014 07: 37
      BOMBER: All right, the truth in the middle. Each of the liberals performs his task. And this one has its own - to scour Russia and quarrel Russians with Jews. And HOW TO conduct yourself with them, showed our commander \ Jew by nationality, but RUSSIAN IN SPIRIT \. I am grateful to him for this science for life.
    7. 0
      14 June 2014 07: 37
      BOMBER: All right, the truth in the middle. Each of the liberals performs his task. And this one has its own - to scour Russia and quarrel Russians with Jews. And HOW TO conduct yourself with them, showed our commander \ Jew by nationality, but RUSSIAN IN SPIRIT \. I am grateful to him for this science for life.
  6. +23
    13 June 2014 21: 31
    I’m tired of liberalism
  7. +37
    13 June 2014 21: 33
    "Many deeds of our party and people will be distorted and spat upon. And my name will also be slandered, slandered. But time will pass, and the eyes of new generations will be turned to the deeds and victories of our socialist Fatherland."
    1. +3
      13 June 2014 23: 07
      You need to publish this more often!
    2. +9
      13 June 2014 23: 22
      The grandfather of this Svanidze was arrested after I.V. Stalin found out what they were doing with their accomplices while at the highest holding posts of the Georgian Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic.
  8. +9
    13 June 2014 21: 33
    In the surname there is clearly a black spot, he is Svinidze!
    1. +7
      13 June 2014 21: 43
      Quote: zollstab
      Svinidze!

      what From the parashenk breed ...
    2. 0
      13 June 2014 22: 13
      Bravo, drinks removed from the tongue.
      1. +1
        13 June 2014 22: 21
        I did not want...drinks
    3. +1
      14 June 2014 00: 00
      Quote: zollstab
      Olepyatka-he Svinidze!

      better than Vonidze
  9. +10
    13 June 2014 21: 33
    So much for democracy and freedom of speech ... In the Rain, not only the authorities, but also the people living in Russia, Svanidze, a sent Cossack, is being poured all the time with slops. Apparently it's time to cover up these pro-Western shops!
    1. +6
      13 June 2014 22: 18
      Quote: Magic Archer
      Apparently it's time to cover up these pro-Western shops!

      they are running out of rent. I understand they will not renew it. maybe someone will rent a room, but I doubt it
    2. 0
      14 June 2014 11: 43
      Swan is a typical representative of the fifth column.
      1. Kir
        0
        15 June 2014 15: 00
        It’s just not Svan, but dirty ....., since the Svans have nothing to do with this scum (see Svan people in Georgia)
  10. mad
    +12
    13 June 2014 21: 34
    Svinidze, Porosenko ... what kind of livestock farm did the State Department organize under our noses ?!
    1. +2
      13 June 2014 22: 19
      The end of these pigs is still the same - for meat and lard.
      1. mad
        +1
        13 June 2014 22: 50
        then there are two end) and there is a choice, it is so democratic laughing
        1. 0
          14 June 2014 00: 32
          and there is a choice, it’s so democratic
          They are sick, they are sick with pork wheezing ... Therefore, there is only one choice - f furnace!
      2. 0
        14 June 2014 11: 45
        But they will have time to do their "dirty business".
  11. Stypor23
    +6
    13 June 2014 21: 35
    Disadvantage. The face is so vile. It's a pity that it is still alive. All these colonists had to be killed for a long time, the country would immediately feel better.
  12. +8
    13 June 2014 21: 35
    WITHDRAW CITIZENSHIP AND SEND FROM THE COUNTRY
    1. +5
      13 June 2014 22: 29
      Quote: ehomenkov
      WITHDRAW CITIZENSHIP AND SEND FROM THE COUNTRY

      It’s high time to create the institution of citizenship, take the oath of a citizen of the Russian Federation, and accordingly deprive him of at least statements against the Russian Federation.
      Something like this!
    2. Dracula
      0
      13 June 2014 23: 15
      Excuse me, what citizenship?
    3. 0
      14 June 2014 00: 01
      Quote: ehomenkov
      SEND FROM COUNTRY

      where?!!
      1. Dracula
        0
        14 June 2014 13: 46
        I suggest to Mars.
  13. EsTaF
    +18
    13 June 2014 21: 36
    Someone asked about the badge.
    1. Fuse
      +2
      13 June 2014 21: 48
      I asked smile thanks for the info good plus.
    2. +4
      13 June 2014 22: 00
      Here is a video about amers in Ukraine !!!! watch from 2 * 40 sec. there is the speech of amers and their emblem !!! Here is the proof of 1 out of many !!
      1. +2
        14 June 2014 00: 52
        Yeah. Some dill are at war, and they are gutar in RUSSIAN! Geeks. Anonymous and tribe
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  15. the eldest
    +9
    13 June 2014 21: 38
    Yes, the same brother of Makarevech from Novodvorskaya ......... you can immediately see who during the hostilities will cross to the side of the enemy ........................ ......
  16. +8
    13 June 2014 21: 39
    Is it really impossible to shut this bastard's mouth?
    1. +2
      13 June 2014 22: 05
      So I wonder if you "dig", you can "dig up" on several articles of the criminal law, there is incitement, and slander, and calls to overthrow ...
      Why won't Putin push all these "fighters" out of their historic "apartments"?
      1. 0
        15 June 2014 17: 34
        This "historian" also writes books about our history. I'm sorry for the children. This man has long shown himself as an enemy of Russia. I wonder how it is still released on central TV channels. Always, an extremely unpleasant sensation when I see him.
    2. +8
      13 June 2014 22: 20
      Quote: efimich41
      Is it really impossible to shut this bastard's mouth?

      freedom of speech, their democratic mother !!!!
  17. +19
    13 June 2014 21: 39
    Moreover, the opinion of the “historian” - and Mr. Svanidze positions himself that way

    Once I remember in one TV show Yu. Zhukov and Svanidze met. Svanidze was broadcasting something, waving his hands, arguing with foam at the mouth, saying that he was a historian ... Zhukov listened, listened, then looked attentively at Svanidze and his crowd and said: "Well, in this company, I'm alone a real historian ... ". What happened to Svanidze ...
    1. +9
      13 June 2014 23: 28
      Quote: retired
      "Well, in this company I am one real historian ..."

      "... and you," added Yu. Zhukov, "are a politically engaged journalist."
      Which in translation into normal language means the human analogue of Polyandia.
      Here Svinidze and "soared" ...
      Hi, Yuri!
      hi
  18. +5
    13 June 2014 21: 42
    There was no agreement on non-attack with Germany, there was a pact. The pact is not a contract.
    1. +3
      13 June 2014 22: 03
      Quote: INVESTOR
      There was no agreement on non-attack with Germany, there was a pact. The pact is not a contract.


      Read the contractual system in Roman law.
      In Roman law, contracts were divided into contracts and pacts.
  19. +7
    13 June 2014 21: 44
    I don’t understand only one who put a minus article? Svanidze !? laughing
    1. +3
      13 June 2014 22: 07
      Oops! Minus grabbed, are you really - Nikolai Karlovich !? laughing laughing laughing
  20. EsTaF
    +2
    13 June 2014 21: 44
    Instructive http://ermalex76.livejournal.com/101745.html
    True, not about Svanidze, India, or what news, which is more than a day.

    "Corr .:

    Dear Evgeny Vitalievich. First of all, thank you for agreeing to this interview. You are a non-public person, possess insider information and rarely agree to comment on something. What can you say about the prospects for the development of the Revolution in Ukraine? Will Putin be able to strangle our revolution, or will victory and rapid successful development await us?
    Eugene Gilbo

    : I see that neither you personally, nor anyone in Ukraine, including the oligarchs, has even a close understanding of the plans of the world corporatocracy regarding Ukraine. And all the more so understanding that Putin will have to help them. You really consider him an independent figure who makes decisions for the Russian state. In fact, the state is already an illusion, and its job is not to make decisions, but to formalize the current state of affairs and affairs. "
    1. +5
      13 June 2014 21: 54
      Crap is complete, although yes corporatocracy rules the United States and the EU and yes, the positions of these Satanists are strong in Russia, but they do not rule our country, nor do they rule China, India, Iran, Syria and many other countries.
      Gilbo himself is a very muddy type.
      1. EsTaF
        +4
        13 June 2014 22: 06
        To me personally, his analysis of violets is the same. However, everything that is happening now, for some reason, is very similar to his assessment. Not planted Tolenka Chubais, wild theft and cuts. And it would have been okay only 14 years ago, but it all happens! 14 years of the reign of GDP.
        And "diplomacy" has been in Ukraine for all these 14 years. before the very events. And the fact that they did not come out of the WTO and why there. And the fact that there is not a single sane opponent of the ruling party. ldpr?)) or bulk? Yes, the tin is complete. dolls.
        And the fact that they decided to make Crimea a gambling zone?
        pancake. You can list for a very long time.
        AND! Volgonrad will be renamed to Stalingrad. Looks like this is good news that outweighs all the negativity.
        Yeah I do not mind. One fix does nothing. Riot in a submarine is not permissible and the authorities take advantage of this.
        1. +1
          13 June 2014 22: 59
          But how to change people's minds ??? People are vicious, cuts and theft will always, as long as there is money and unequal social status, they steal everywhere in the EU and the USA, and they steal in such a way that we never dreamed of. How can you change all corrupt officials take all the prisoners ???? And who will replace them ???? The same vicious, but even worse not experienced in public affairs. In our history, this already happened, Stalin tried to solve this problem, it turned into massive repressions, and the complete incompetence of new officials, the incompetence of army generals who came to the place of the executed and imprisoned, what were the consequences of this purge everyone knows from the Finnish war and the beginning of the Second World War, as well as from the subsequent inefficiency of production and organization throughout the country.

          But it’s easier to explain it this way: imagine the table on which you are standing, you are the president, the officials table, the question is how to change the table so that the president and the state as a whole do not fall ??????

          And I will add to the WTO. Within the framework of the WTO, any economic sanctions are not legal, any stops of Russian projects, business contacts are not legal, any discrimination in terms of business and economy is unacceptable, the WTO system itself is built in such a way that everyone is equal, when sanctions are actually introduced against Russia fraught with the exit from the WTO of many countries, and oh, it is not profitable for the West.
          1. EsTaF
            0
            14 June 2014 00: 06
            They got into the WTO, but there was a chance to get out when its west violated.
            Why didn't you come out? - As they got in, they didn't come out.

            And at the expense of the table and the president, they will tear the table anyway. Another thing, at an opportune moment, or as at the beginning of the 20th, an unfavorable one.
            striped in all sawing pipeline and provocations arrange in southeast.
            So far, people in Russia spit and still go to McDonald's and go fishing. But when the business of useful resources is shut down, what will our esteemed President do? After all, they can demolish. the economy and power will not recover from the "oil business" overnight.
            No emotions, but, IMHO, you just need to understand that these very emotions would not be later.
        2. 0
          14 June 2014 01: 35
          I would very much like to again move S.Pb to LENINGRAD. love drinks
  21. +5
    13 June 2014 21: 44
    Svinidze, Nemtsov, Zadvorskaya one field berry gosdepovsky horns making wormholes and lies in the mind of weak and illiterate people! Soap and oblivion. negative
  22. +4
    13 June 2014 21: 45
    Svanidze? Yes, no one already, and no way to call. Trash, in general.
    1. 0
      13 June 2014 21: 59
      Good night! hi On duty?
      Mekiswa - Cameroon 1-0. I guessed the score !!!!!!!!!!! tongue
      Waiting for Spain - Holland. I put 1-1 on a draw what . I will watch Yes . I have wink ! How? Will you support?
      1. +3
        13 June 2014 22: 20
        Good to you too! What are you playing on the football betting? "Oh, you are passionate, Paramosha!" Blackness, from "Run", do you remember how it ended? laughing .
        Duty at 22.00 passed, calmly passed, tomorrow is a day off, the day after tomorrow again recourse
        1. 0
          13 June 2014 22: 29
          Yes, at work they built a small three. So we are about 3 months with one young man in the Russian championship, Cup, European Cups scored. In the end he fool I lost 700 rubles. Well, we bought tea with this money, but we bought coffee fellow into the office ... And then another young got in fool . Customer base is growing Yes I don’t even know what to buy after the World Cup: way spinning or feederwhat?
          Watching Spain?
          1. +2
            13 June 2014 22: 42
            Players, damn it. Lana, let’s sit and see, there’s a bitterness. Only, I won’t rest today, until the tongue feel Tomorrow I need to visit my little wife in the hospital, and my son arrives in front of the army. He doesn’t get into the border guards, today he called his own, they say everything already, only double basses. Well, ok, autobat, so autobat. In general, brought up, a highway nightmare, a military driver belay laughing
            1. 0
              13 June 2014 22: 46
              Quote: perepilka
              In general, brought up, a highway nightmare


              Yes, everything is normal! Kettles will be less stupid behind the wheel. He didn’t receive the rights to an APC If on him, then finally do not worry ... They are all - on the helmet ...
              1. +1
                13 June 2014 23: 02
                "FROM". I passed the course on "B", paid money for additional training, but, this zats, did not pass the "city" what in a passenger car, despite the fact that for two years I taxied on my car, but on KamAZ it was mandatory, as Katarina Witt skated. I am tormented by vague ... if he is not a specialist, so as not to get to the Combat UAZ what The artist, that one.
            2. 0
              13 June 2014 23: 03
              AU !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
              There they’re already kicking !! And we haven’t drunk for 1-1 yet !! \
              Well Duc Cho? What for? I'm ready ... Well, damn you did not wait ... I'm all already: for 1-1 ... And the game is very interesting!
              1. +1
                13 June 2014 23: 12
                Quote: retired
                And we haven’t drunk for 1-1 yet !! \

                Achoa, well, so that the bet played. drinks laughing
                1. +1
                  13 June 2014 23: 14
                  Well, thank God!- drinks
                  1. 0
                    13 June 2014 23: 18
                    Oh damn it! How do they play good !! Our 50 years old also need to recourse ... And then: if they give up drinking ...
                2. 0
                  13 June 2014 23: 29
                  Yeah. 1-0 is already there ... good
                  1. 0
                    13 June 2014 23: 46
                    URRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
                    1-1! stop Toko doesn't need anymore !!! A fantastic goal !!!
                    1. +1
                      13 June 2014 23: 52
                      Quote: retired
                      1-1! stop Toko no more

                      Another whole time, Jura laughing drinks Not a boissy?
                  2. +3
                    13 June 2014 23: 49
                    Quote: retired
                    Oh damn it! How do they play good !! Our 50 years still need to recourse as well ... And then: if they give up drinking ...

                    belay at half a year of football training, so that he learned to run by the age of seventy? what I remember how Oleg Blokhin, from Kiev “Dynamo”, almost from the middle of the field, the ball, like even in the upper right, was long ago, in the seventies.
                    1. +3
                      13 June 2014 23: 52
                      Quote: perepilka
                      I remember how Oleg Blokhin, from Kiev “Dynamo”, almost from the middle of the field, the ball, like even in the upper right, was long ago, in the seventies.

                      Super Cup game with Bavaria.
                      "Dynamo Kiev is a class! Dynamo Kiev is a school! Dynamo Kiev is the finest hour of Soviet football!" - this was scribbled on the table of one of the auditoriums of "Bursa".
                      1. +2
                        13 June 2014 23: 59
                        Quote: stalkerwalker
                        Super Cup game with Bavaria.

                        In! Hang years, write years, write years ago, nafig. drinks For grandfathers.
                      2. 0
                        14 June 2014 00: 04
                        Quote: perepilka
                        For grandfathers.

                        For them! Yes drinks
                      3. 0
                        14 June 2014 00: 02
                        For some reason, they rarely remember the final of 75g. with “Ferencváros”, where Blokhin played just a phenomenal match! Isam scored a goal and helped Onishchenko (like ... it's been a long time ago ...) and, most importantly, just terrorized the Hungarian defense. They were in a panic in the second half!
                      4. +3
                        14 June 2014 00: 07
                        Quote: retired
                        For some reason, they rarely remember the final of 75g. with “Ferencváros”, where Blokhin played just a phenomenal match! Isam scored a goal and helped Onishchenko (like ... it's been a long time ago ...) and, most importantly, just terrorized the Hungarian defense. They were in a panic in the second half!

                        4-0 ... "Strip" as you like ....
                    2. 0
                      13 June 2014 23: 53
                      Quote: perepilka
                      at half a year of football training, so that he learned to run by the age of seventy?

                      And how did you want request ? Time is needed Yes ...
                    3. 0
                      13 June 2014 23: 55
                      Quote: perepilka
                      I remember how Oleg Blokhin, from Kiev “Dynamo”, almost from the middle of the field, a ball, like even in the upper right

                      Well this is unlikely what ... I seem to remember almost all of his exploits. The most important one is, of course, the goal in the Bayern Super Cup in 76th. Four Germans could not do anything with him. Well ... For the revival of our football?
                      1. +1
                        14 June 2014 00: 05
                        Quote: retired
                        .I like almost all his exploits I remember

                        Tilivisor was called "Electron" and was black and white laughing as I remember right now wassat
                        For the revival of our football?
                        Come on recourse For the resuscitation of a corpse, sad Cho, silently and not clinking glasses?
                      2. 0
                        14 June 2014 00: 14
                        Quote: perepilka
                        Tilivisor was called "Electron" and was black and white, as I remember right now

                        stop Tilivisor was "Concert" good ! Three in one Yes : player on top, telly in the middle, 2nd class receiver below. Yes black and white Yes ... Who knew that in the world then there was already color TV request ... And the Dutch destroyed my tote am ! Now I'm rooting for the Spaniards recourse . Need a draw am !!!
                      3. +1
                        14 June 2014 00: 11
                        Guys, ay! Are you in the stadium or where?
                      4. +1
                        14 June 2014 00: 20
                        Quote: vsoltan
                        Guys, ay! Are you in the stadium or where?

                        On Maracan Yes . And what: envy? So fly to us! 18 hours and you are there Yes ! Tickets can be bought from me feel . I try to not have more than 100% profit from compatriots request ...Those. selling at a loss ... recourse
                        These homosexuals I got the whole tote poher !! 3-1 !! I curse the Dutch team! am
                      5. +2
                        14 June 2014 00: 31
                        4-1 ...
                        All. Cursed Holland am ! They will not be happy negative !
                      6. +2
                        14 June 2014 00: 33
                        Quote: retired
                        3-1 !! I curse the Dutch team! am

                        This motor resource at the piercing shore, otherwise it will break, at the right time laughing “Oh, you are passionate, Paramosha!” 4: 1, however.
                      7. 0
                        14 June 2014 00: 37
                        Quote: perepilka
                        4: 1 however

                        5-1 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
                        Wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
                      8. +1
                        14 June 2014 00: 45
                        Quote: retired
                        5-1 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
                        Wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

                        Lana, don’t worry, it’s come, it’s gone, it’s not a cow and it blew. Come on, by the road, yes I’m in a cradle, perhaps tomorrow for a steam locomotive, I’ll have a chance to hang out, and my son will be pulled into the area. Well of them, the Dutch, along with dams and mills laughing
                      9. +1
                        14 June 2014 00: 49
                        Come on. For the road. drinks
      2. +1
        14 June 2014 01: 00
        Yes, sorry for the retired brother. Then you flew to the full. Underestimated the Dutch. And what a game! Such a finale!
  23. +10
    13 June 2014 21: 47
    Since 1993, I want to push the glasses of glasses with a light movement of the thumbs ................
  24. dFG
    +4
    13 June 2014 21: 47
    so where is the harsh censure on television and radio? Why doesn't society know about its "patriotic" citizens? Why does the truth only slip on such sites? Svanidze tried to deny the Holocaust in Israel ?? to call Obama a Negro in the USA? why in the Russian Federation they allow citizens to water their country where they live and receive any kind of salary? is there a clear ideological line or idea in the country ??
  25. +7
    13 June 2014 21: 48
    Svanidze is an ordinary liberal and an ignoramus how many times he was beaten in verbal battles and Starikov and many others, the last parrying of historical facts, he always has one thing - read "The Gulag Archipelago". This is exactly the logic of the growing liberals, they judge the world by American films.
    As one rich man said, "The best business is the dumbass business."
    1. +9
      13 June 2014 22: 56
      And Kurginyan specifically formatted it, like God a turtle!
  26. toropov
    +2
    13 June 2014 21: 50
    And why should we leave his writings unpunished. This is not a personal opinion, but a distortion of documents.
  27. +8
    13 June 2014 21: 50
    Svinidze is an outspoken Russophobe and national traitor. His frenzy and constant mockery of the people, expressed in recognition of the SS and attacks on Orthodoxy, suggests that there is nothing to talk about with this traitor. There is a limit to all patience, and when, against the background of its next pearls, ukrofashists invade the territory of Russia, then it is time to draw definite conclusions ...
  28. skalozub
    +3
    13 June 2014 21: 50
    just another paid miracle in feathers that it is surprising in Africa
  29. Bolshev
    -28
    13 June 2014 21: 51
    The USSR and the 3rd Reich were not allies, but practically a single organism, destroying the Russians and Germans, and the 4th Reich inside Germany was almost neutral throughout the war and the war with it flared up just now and quite unsuccessfully, and not at the right time.
    Liberal fog replaces the old people with patriotic fog, in both cases the truth is not visible and it will not be surprising to see them drinking with Svanidze at the same cottage as Yeltsin and Rutsky after the 93rd.
    To understand the situation as a whole, it’s good to have an elongated skull like the Ancients, all lies are not put into an ordinary head, only a part and because of this people are divided into political parties according to the part of propaganda that first entered.
    1. +4
      13 June 2014 22: 14

      To understand the situation as a whole, it’s good to have an elongated skull like the Ancients, all lies are not put into an ordinary head, only a part and because of this people are divided into political parties according to the part of propaganda that first entered.
      What an enchanting stream of consciousness wassat
      1. +3
        13 June 2014 23: 27
        Volkhov, share the recipe? I would also like to be given ...
        1. Bolshev
          -6
          13 June 2014 23: 42
          I’ve also been sharing sinteh.info here for 3 years, but it’s of little use - try to take out propaganda and look at reality ... the desire may come true.
        2. +3
          13 June 2014 23: 44
          Quote: Banshee
          Volkhov, share the recipe? I would also like to be given ...

          Not everyone is given, it turns out ... laughing
    2. +4
      13 June 2014 23: 32
      Quote: The Wolves
      The USSR and the 3rd Reich were not allies, but practically a single organism, destroying Russians and Germans

      A protracted spring exacerbation, gradually turning into a chronic?
      1. Bolshev
        -9
        13 June 2014 23: 55
        Quote: stalkerwalker
        Spring Fever

        It has long been known that both states were created with the participation of one banking group, the multimillion-dollar losses of both peoples are even more famous, the whole Beria’s department had a telephone line to the Germans and special squadrons on German planes for transporting cards and documents ... and we live.
        1. +2
          14 June 2014 05: 18
          Something like a hike !!! I looked at your komenty, you generally from which planet ???
          1. Bolshev
            -2
            14 June 2014 11: 31
            Quote: JACTUS RECTUS
            what planet are you from ???

            You look more articles on sinteh.info and warfiles.ru and you will understand that the term "planet" has not been applicable to Earth for a long time, of the planets nearby there is only the Moon and Mars, I'm not from there, I don't know about the rest of the members of the forum.
    3. +1
      15 June 2014 01: 51
      From your comments you can see that you have already lengthened your skull! belay
  30. +4
    13 June 2014 21: 51
    Damn well, who's stopping them from going where they like !? Let him ride and enjoy life, well then sprinkle poison. It would be interesting to look at those who listen to such errors of nature
  31. +6
    13 June 2014 21: 53
    Given that the Pact with Hitler was concluded in order to secure the USSR after the treacherous conclusion of the Munich agreement, as well as the proposals to France to conclude a military assistance agreement ........ Then these guys would go where further away ..................... And yet -.............. that anti-communism was the main factor in the British policy of appeasing Hitler. This was clearly confirmed by Sir Alec Douglas-Hume (Lord Hume), who accompanied Neville Chamberlain to Munich and became Prime Minister himself in the early 1960s. As he said in a newspaper interview:

    “I think the main thing that needs to be understood is that Chamberlain, like many others, saw communism as the main long-term danger. He hated Hitler and German fascism, but believed that Europe as a whole and Britain in particular was in much greater danger from communism. Hitler was a bearer of evil, but in the short term he ought to - and probably could - make a deal, and after that he could be controlled. He did not understand, before it was too late, that this man was crazy and his policy was aimed at war "................ How will it happen - What other questions ????? ?
  32. +2
    13 June 2014 21: 54
    I never listened to him at all, therefore there is nothing to say. Who it?
    1. 0
      13 June 2014 22: 01
      And you listen to "Echo of Washington" (disguised under the name "Echo of Moscow") so there are a lot of such svinidze.
    2. 11111mail.ru
      +2
      13 June 2014 22: 16
      Quote: sub307
      Who it?

      Timur Sultanovich Shaov answered about such:

      Tired of stench and fights
      Political cesspool,
      Share power in a plague hut, -
      Do not bargain in any way.
      Our politician, he is pompous,
      Loud, full-bodied,
      Angry, active, useless,
      Like an old woman Shapoklyak.

      Tired of this herd
      Bespontovy stage,

      Yes hangouts until you drop
      Yes, the chewing crowd.
      Also immorally resistant -
      Young and cool young,
      Evil grandchildren of perestroika
      In French - Chantrap.
  33. +4
    13 June 2014 21: 58
    Svanidze or Svinidze? How right? I'm confusing all the time.
    1. +2
      13 June 2014 22: 14
      Rather Svolochnidze .... I noticed long ago that this so-called "leading" Russian journalist often tries to screw up our country and its history ... On the other hand, an obvious enemy is not as dangerous as a disguised enemy.
  34. +5
    13 June 2014 21: 58
    Someone wrote above that the truth is in the middle. But the Truth is always so far away that it is unattainable within human limits. I don’t know, maybe I missed, but did Poland even before the start of World War II, in 1938, not participate with fascist Germany in the division of Czechoslovakia? Something Poland really does not like to remember about it.
  35. portoc65
    +5
    13 June 2014 22: 01
    Send to dill. Bandera’s brothers to them. Just deprive of Russian citizenship. They are not Russians. It is not just that many ethnic Russians dream of being Russians and these scum with a Russian passport hate her. They are worse than enemies.
  36. +3
    13 June 2014 22: 03
    Here is a video about amers in Ukraine !!!! watch from 2 * 40 sec. there is the speech of amers and their emblem !!! Here is the proof of 1 out of many !!!
    1. EsTaF
      0
      14 June 2014 00: 10
      Clothing can simply be handed out. Indeed, the Americans threatened to sponsor clothes and armor. And the agle speech can only be the speech of correspondents.
      Has anyone been able to translate this speech about windows - the meaning of phrases?
      I am not against the southeast, but getting used to eating everything and everyone is a habit, which then can play a cruel joke.
  37. -20
    13 June 2014 22: 03
    The author of the article categorically does not accept the thesis about the decisive role of the USSR in unleashing the Second World War. This is the opinion of the author, which can not be respected. But numerous facts show that the author is mistaken. This is history. Germany openly repented of her wrong in it. Russia admitted its sins in relation to its domestic political actions. But to admit herself that she was wrong, she would NEVER be able to fight against fascism-Nazism and destroy it!
    1. +2
      13 June 2014 22: 42
      Quote: ksv1973
      The author of the article categorically does not accept the thesis about the decisive role of the USSR in unleashing the Second World War. This is the opinion of the author, which can not be respected. But numerous facts show that the author is mistaken. This is history. Germany openly repented of her wrong in it. Russia admitted its sins in relation to its domestic political actions. But to admit herself that she was wrong, she would NEVER be able to fight against fascism-Nazism and destroy it!

      I ask myself the question - "what are you, idiot, expressed such that you (at the moment) have already been considered by five people an idiot"?
      1. +3
        13 June 2014 22: 54
        Quote: ksv1973
        I ask myself the question - "what did you say that you (at the moment) have already been considered by five people an idiot"?

        Obvious platitude, awesomely verbose, what probably don’t worry.
        1. +3
          13 June 2014 23: 02
          Quote: perepilka
          Quote: ksv1973
          I ask myself the question - "what did you say that you (at the moment) have already been considered by five people an idiot"?

          Obvious platitude, awesomely verbose, what probably don’t worry.

          Heartfelt "THANKS" for criticism. I do not take my words for the ultimate truth. Good luck, Vladimir! hi
          1. +1
            13 June 2014 23: 26
            Quote: ksv1973
            Good luck, Vladimir!

            You, in the same place, in the same place. hi
            Krivosheev, Pykhalov, from the opposite, Muller-Gillebrand, Vinnie with Franklin, read, not locked.
          2. 0
            13 June 2014 23: 30
            Here, as it were, not everyone is able to comprehend a sentence from more than 10 words.
    2. 0
      13 June 2014 22: 59
      You, my dear, to begin with, at least get acquainted with the history of the 2nd MV, since they scored in a history lesson at school
      1. +3
        13 June 2014 23: 20
        Quote: muginov2015
        You, my dear, to begin with, at least get acquainted with the history of the 2-th MV, since they killed in the history class at the history class

        And to hell goat bayan, Uniate accordion? Kohl Svinidze so famously sends that to study History at all NE Treba ...
        1. 0
          13 June 2014 23: 28
          Hi Ilyich! hi
          Yes brost you mess with this udak! Seen enough of the kin on TV Let's watch football better!
          1. +3
            13 June 2014 23: 37
            Quote: retired
            Yes brost you mess with this udak! Seen enough of the kin on TV Let's watch football better!

            Yuri, I already violate all the rules of the MPPSS-72, being distracted by communication in the military. wassat
            1. +1
              14 June 2014 00: 06
              Quote: stalkerwalker
              I break all the rules of MPPSS-72

              Ilyich! Well, what do you: don’t know why the rules were invented, or what?
              1. +3
                14 June 2014 00: 09
                Quote: retired
                Ilyich! Well, what do you: don’t know why the rules were invented, or what?

                I can’t, Yuri ...
                And I want, and pricks ...
                I'll be home - no questions asked drinks
              2. +1
                14 June 2014 00: 19
                Quote: retired
                you don’t know why the rules were invented, or what?

                To make exceptions what Last week there was a telegram, two, one beginning of the RTC, the second beginning of the power supply region, both with the fifth group, both in the cells, both on current carrying from the bus section, one in the KRUN, the second in the closed switchgear, 10 kV, were excluded from the personnel of JSC "Russian Railways", for good, and so. Well, nafig them, these exceptions.
                1. +2
                  14 June 2014 00: 23
                  Quote: perepilka
                  two, one beginning of the RTC, the second beginning of the power supply region, both with the fifth group, both in the cells, both on current carrying from the bus section, one in the KRUN, the second in the closed switchgear, 10 kV, were excluded from the personnel of Russian Railways, for good, and so.

                  Yes, Vladimir ...
                  Not knowledge of Ohm's law, as well as neglect of PTB and PTE lead to fatal consequences ... fellow
                  hi
                  1. +1
                    14 June 2014 00: 46
                    Quote: stalkerwalker
                    Not knowledge of Ohm's law, as well as neglect of PTB and PTE lead to fatal consequences ...

                    Yeah ... Safety rules are written in blood. Was in kmndrovka in Sosnovka in 2009. Khanty-Mansi Autonomous Okrug. Surveyor with a rail climbed in the village through a small garage. In his hands was a rake. Over the garage was a high-voltage 10kV. I hit the rail for sagging wires - and that’s it ... We were all driven off the track and on TB extraordinary ... Plus commissions came. In my life I didn’t go to the helmet on the track, I didn’t climb out of it for a week ... I hated it completely ...
                    1. +2
                      14 June 2014 00: 56
                      Quote: retired
                      I hated her completely ..

                      Gee! Mine, with a visor, constantly, if not on the head, so it is trimmed to the belt, at the transition, I’m used to it already what Last time, one and a half weeks ago, the Pasaki caught, from above, while I knitted the keys for a fishing rod request
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            3. 0
              14 June 2014 05: 15
              Do not touch MPPSS-72 ............ they have nothing to do with it! It is true, it is better to communicate where everyone is svidomye, self-righteous and zombie ...?
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        3. -2
          13 June 2014 23: 46
          Quote: stalkerwalker
          Quote: muginov2015
          You, my dear, to begin with, at least get acquainted with the history of the 2-th MV, since they killed in the history class at the history class

          And to hell goat bayan, Uniate accordion? Kohl Svinidze so famously sends that to study History at all NE Treba ...

          And for the "goat" you will answer?
          1. +2
            13 June 2014 23: 49
            Quote: ksv1973
            Russia admitted its sins in relation to its domestic political actions. But to admit herself that she was wrong, she would NEVER be able to fight against fascism-Nazism and destroy it!

            Do you pretend to be a louder name?
            1. +2
              14 June 2014 00: 05
              I suspect that we did not understand each other. A verbal aggravation of the situation will not be interesting to anyone on the site. 8-905-781-73-65 type and I'm sure that we will find a common language and become friends.
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            3. -2
              14 June 2014 00: 09
              Quote: ksv1973
              And for the "goat" you will answer?

              Quote: stalkerwalker
              Do you pretend to be a louder name?

              Ilyich! It dawned on me Yes ! How do you like: enchanting goat ... what It seems to me that quite a: louder ...
              1. +2
                14 June 2014 00: 11
                Quote: retired
                It seems to me that quite a: louder ...

                Come on...
                In some individuals, youthful maximalism plays in poppies until old age.
                And all from the inability to soberly assess the situation ... fellow
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                2. +1
                  14 June 2014 00: 54
                  Quote: stalkerwalker
                  Quote: retired
                  It seems to me that quite a: louder ...

                  Come on...
                  In some individuals, youthful maximalism plays in poppies until old age.
                  And all from the inability to soberly assess the situation ... fellow

                  I suspect that your, Ilyich, senile minimalism, intertwined with a similar marasmatism, has already reached the point that you, having left your Mausoleum, have ceased to soberly assess the fact that you are making two unforgivable mistakes in passing. First, you call your own people who, from your point of view, think incorrectly, but at the same time do not want to offend you and your compatriots' thoughts in any way. The second - in the word "poppe" you humiliated all of Russia, because, as even children know, in Russia everything is done through the object you mentioned above, but taking into account the fact that there is only one letter "P" after the letter "O" in it. Don't complicate the situation - don't humiliate our Russia. wink
                  Good luck to you !
                  1. +2
                    14 June 2014 01: 04
                    When will you get wiser, my dear Muscovites?
                    1. +1
                      14 June 2014 01: 08
                      Quote: stalkerwalker
                      When will you grow wiser, my dear Muscovites?

                      When fried wink in one place. Good night, sir.
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                    3. +2
                      14 June 2014 01: 10
                      Quote: stalkerwalker
                      When will you grow wiser, my dear Muscovites?

                      Ilyich, stop writing, let's talk live already. I do not hide my coordinates, as you can see.
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              3. +2
                14 June 2014 01: 24
                Quote: retired
                Quote: ksv1973
                And for the "goat" you will answer?

                Quote: stalkerwalker
                Do you pretend to be a louder name?

                Ilyich! It dawned on me Yes ! How do you like: enchanting goat ... what It seems to me that quite a: louder ...

                You, my friend, are an extremely rare rude creature, as long as you are ready to speak like that about a stranger who did not want to offend any of your thoughts. Ugh on you many times.
      2. +1
        13 June 2014 23: 32
        Quote: muginov2015
        You, my dear, to begin with, at least get acquainted with the history of the 2-th MV, since they killed in the history class at the history class

        Speaking in your language, they Decide, you did not hold anything but the object you designated to be clogged by me. Just kidding, don't be offended. hi
        I'd like to talk with you, at least by phone. I feel that we will become friends. Topics for conversation will be selected.
        With respect to you - Sergey Kolesnikov, 8-905-781-73-65. At least reset SMS your number, I’ll call you back. I feel that you will be an interesting conversationalist; my wife tells me that I am not mistaken.
        1. +1
          14 June 2014 02: 23
          Do you seriously think that someone will call you? :) They are immeasurably higher than you and most of those who come to this and other similar resources! It did not fit the marshals to call up with any trifle, otherwise you would suddenly destroy the idyllic world of a well-read narcissist with a dirty major boot :)
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    4. +1
      14 June 2014 05: 11
      For world sweat and the extinction of dinosaurs, it remains for Russia to repent, so that they would lag behind it? Thinking that they would not leave behind .......... Therefore, Russia should be powerful, capable of giving the teeth to those who want to make Russia repent!
  38. +4
    13 June 2014 22: 04
    Remember
    it
    every son.
    Know
    any child:
    will increase
    from the son
    cvin,
    if the son -
    a little pig.
    HERE IT AND GOT!
  39. +9
    13 June 2014 22: 05
    Here's another video about guys who, without experience, protect their people from amers with their 6 cars !!!! Here are the heroes !!!
  40. lankrus
    +10
    13 June 2014 22: 06
    As I understand Stalin more and more. And now citizen Svanidze would have received his legal 10 years, without the right of correspondence, and would have knocked bodies at the door to those who pumped gas to the enemy, without payment (and we actually have a war with Dill), and would have sent funerals of the bastard of liberals to the courts so that later they would raise the economy of our beloved Motherland, some in the cutting areas and some in the uranium mines. Eh, your mother, which country was shaved.
    1. +1
      14 June 2014 00: 12
      maybe all 25 ...
  41. +11
    13 June 2014 22: 06
    To judge and shoot this Georgian rabid dog. With your own hands would strangle the bastard
    1. +5
      13 June 2014 23: 29
      And here the Georgians read his pedigree ..... Svanidze’s paternal grandmother, Tsilya Isaakovna, is an old Bolshevik, worked in the Central Committee’s female department, which was led by Kollontai, and was friends with Anna Lurie’s wife Bukharin. She was familiar including Trotsky, Kamenev, Radek.
      1. Dracula
        +7
        13 June 2014 23: 37
        Ghoul in the third generation. Trouble.
        1. +3
          14 June 2014 00: 13
          and y ... side in the first
    2. 0
      13 June 2014 23: 29
      And here the Georgians read his pedigree ..... Svanidze’s paternal grandmother, Tsilya Isaakovna, is an old Bolshevik, worked in the Central Committee’s female department, which was led by Kollontai, and was friends with Anna Lurie’s wife Bukharin. She was familiar including Trotsky, Kamenev, Radek.
      1. Kir
        0
        15 June 2014 14: 57
        But I just can’t understand that we don’t agree that these nits are Trotsky’s offspring, and now there are a lot of them under different slogans, but in fact there are a lot of great Russians, these are ultra leftists and so-called anti-fascists and other dumps .
        The Great Crime of the Great STALIN is forgive the repetition of the crimes of Our Monarchs unjustified Mercy to these ...... and their offspring, for me so to them It was worth doing the Great Shan Yan, the whole clan to hell without snot !!!
    3. +5
      14 June 2014 01: 15
      Yes, this is not a Georgian dog, but a Jew. You can see it in the face, look closely! Don’t shame the Georgians, it’s not their oppression, “it” has grown on our bread. We didn’t weed out on time, here is the result.
    4. 0
      15 June 2014 01: 54
      In a word ... Otsasidze!
  42. +6
    13 June 2014 22: 07
    Svinidze is rare rubbish, and it is time to add it to the Guinness book on this basis.
  43. +9
    13 June 2014 22: 07
    As soon as it comes to Svanidze, one immediately remembers his video message during the August events of 1991, his shaking slobbering lips, a trembling voice and "they will all kill us." Nothing but disgusting disgust. And he bleated then, unlike more plaintive, now he is bleating aggressively.
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  45. ABV
    +5
    13 June 2014 22: 09
    Svanidze - ch.m.o!
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    2. +3
      13 June 2014 22: 17
      Quote: ABV
      Svanidze - ch.m.o!

      I suspect that not the creature you designated, but the usual ped ... Art. Only carefully hiding his essence.
  46. +5
    13 June 2014 22: 10
    Svanidze is a terry Russophobe, for his statements on the Dozhd channel, he should be prosecuted for distorting historical data about the Second World War and insulting the memory of the USSR soldiers who died in this war.
    1. 0
      14 June 2014 20: 34
      I agree, for all 100! Where is the Veterans Act?
  47. fant
    +4
    13 June 2014 22: 11
    It’s a pity that now it’s not 37 ... this one would be in the top ten. Such people go to the wall right away, they live in the country and they also water it with mud, go to your country and water it, the yogurt bought
    1. +2
      14 June 2014 20: 35
      In the 37th, they ruled, do not confuse dear ... they were only cleaned in 39
  48. +1
    13 June 2014 22: 13
    "Member of the Public Chamber of the Russian Federation. From 2009 until the liquidation of the commission in 2012 - member of the Commission on Counteracting Attempts to Falsify History to the Prejudice of Russia's Interests, Member of the Presidential Council for the Development of Civil Society and Human Rights" (his regalia) - isn't it time at least under the court of this figure ???
    1. Kir
      0
      15 June 2014 15: 08
      According to the mind, the whole public chamber (an interesting name for this "institution", I can’t take into account which section, or rather what country this section represents) should be subjected to the Most Cruel Revision !!!, and as if after that there is no more- with errors, something about 10% of the current composition. By the way, and other "public ...." to clean It would be worth it!
  49. sayrapetyan
    +4
    13 June 2014 22: 14
    Disgusting person !!! The language does not turn to call him a man !!!! And for some reason, it constantly appears on federal channels !!! It is disgusting !!!!
    1. +1
      13 June 2014 23: 21
      Quote: sayrapetyan
      Disgusting person !!! The language does not turn to call him a man !!!! And for some reason, it constantly appears on federal channels !!! It is disgusting !!!!
      Already a great rarity. They have begun to forget their name, just not interesting. Soon the "Rain" will wash away with rain. Somewhere from the basement they will spew slop.
      "Nikolai Svanidze is not an expert in Russian history. He is a chatterbox, so you cannot take seriously his statements related to Russian history. He is a propagandist, a man who is preoccupied with a democratic, in the worst sense of the word, idea. He is a Russophobe and a hater of Russia. This is how I would characterize Mr. Svanidze, "said Igor Yakovlevich Froyanov, professor of St. Petersburg University, Doctor of Historical Sciences, commenting on the statements of the liberal journalist Nikolai Svanidze about the personality of the first Russian Tsar Ivan the Terrible. good
  50. +3
    13 June 2014 22: 15
    This kind of audience is the backbone of the Public Chamber. Who do they represent? Maximum 10% of the same tumbleweed. 90% of the country's population is represented by only a few people. This is our "public" chamber.
    1. +1
      13 June 2014 23: 33
      They represent the interests of 99% of our government ........... (their co-religionists and having the same nationality)
      1. 0
        14 June 2014 20: 24
        99% Jews live in Russia ???
    2. +2
      13 June 2014 23: 33
      They represent the interests of 99% of our government ........... (their co-religionists and having the same nationality)
  51. +1
    13 June 2014 22: 19
    Quote: Arkhara
    Quote: Monk
    Maybe for a start he should read the history of the Motherland, and then try to moo something ...

    He knows everything, understands everything. It is such a ... liberalist whoever paid the most dances it.


    Well then he's just a whore...
  52. Andrey82
    +1
    13 June 2014 22: 19
    Well, where is the warning to Echo for allowing Russophobic propaganda? Why are hundreds of Western NGOs still operating in the country, distorting the events of our history? Are we waiting for the same thing to happen here as in Ukraine?
  53. komrad.klim
    0
    13 June 2014 22: 24
    Isn't he a handsome "Georgian"?
    1. 0
      14 June 2014 12: 04
      Georgian Jew.
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  55. +6
    13 June 2014 22: 26
    I remembered a very old ditty. how it fits into our fifth column.
    I'd like to collect them all
    into one big herd
    and an atomic bomb
    wipe out
  56. +5
    13 June 2014 22: 26
    Shoot!!!
  57. +2
    13 June 2014 22: 32
    DO NOT worry about Mariupol, it is clear that 1000 armed idiots cannot occupy and clear a city of half a million. The fact is that the number of militia in the city is about three hundred people and they coexisted quite comfortably in the city with the Azov battalion, which is maintained by Kolomoyets. About what is planned for today's assault, the whole city knew and everything that was happening was played out according to a scenario previously agreed upon between the parties, we were, as it were, attacking, and you were, as it were, defending. This evening, "Azov" will return to its base and everything will return to its original state.
    1. +5
      13 June 2014 23: 21
      Quote: PRUSSAC
      This evening, "Azov" will return to its base and everything will return to its original state.

      just a balm for the soul.
    2. Andrey82
      0
      13 June 2014 23: 43
      It seems there were only 50 militia people there and one outdated armored personnel carrier that was knocked out?
  58. Evgeniy1
    +2
    13 June 2014 22: 34
    Quote: Rus2012
    Quote: RUSS
    True somewhere in the middle

    and meanwhile -
    Urgent: in the Rostov region shot down a helicopter of the Armed Forces of Ukraine
    A helicopter of the Ukrainian Armed Forces shot down over the border village of New Hope, Rostov Region, according to representatives of the national militia. A fire started at the scene, local residents are evacuated, the head of the DPR militia Igor Strelkov personally checks the information.

    "Now on the territory of Russia in the village of Novaya Nadezhda, a helicopter of the Ukrainian air forces has been shot down, residents are being evacuated, the aircraft has caught fire," Strelkov writes.

    The village is located one kilometer from the Russian-Ukrainian border in the Kuybyshevsky district of the Rostov region.

    Recall that earlier two armored personnel carriers violated the border with the Russian Federation in the Millerovo region.

    source - http://www.vladtime.ru/proish/377391-srochno-v-rostovskoy-oblasti-sbit-vertolet-




    vs-ukrainy.html
    If this is true, what will we do?

    About Ukrainian bookings -
    On the night of June 13, an armored infantry vehicle with soldiers subordinate to the Kiev junta violated the state border of the Russian Federation in the Rostov Region. Information about this was provided by Vasily Malayev, head of the press service of the border control of the FSB of the Russian Federation in the Rostov region.
    According to him, the junta BMP, which participated in a punitive operation on the territory of the Lugansk People’s Republic, for unknown reasons violated the Russian border and stalled in the area of ​​the city of Millerovo. The punitive left the BMP, returned to the territory of the LPR, but later again violated the state border of Russia and tried to start the car. Their attempts were thwarted by Russian border guards; border violators had to leave with nothing.

    An BMP has been discovered, and a pre-investigation check is currently underway.

    Russian President Vladimir Putin instructed the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs to make a demarche in connection with the violation of the Russian border and resistance to border guards by Ukrainian punishers. This was reported by presidential press secretary Dmitry Peskov.

    * Millerovo is a village in the Rostov Region, located less than a hundred kilometers from the Russian-Ukrainian border. It is located on both banks of the Sredny Tuzlov River (Don basin). About 500 people live in it.

    If all THIS is TRUE, then I really want to ask the commander-in-chief, how could THIS happen? What are you doing there on the border in a warring state? Where is the army, where are the border guards, where is the intelligence, where... SHORTS take you, Slackers! A SHAME! PUNISH ALL THE GUILTY!
    1. Dracula
      +1
      13 June 2014 22: 57
      Nobody has yet canceled our Kolomoiskys, Abramovichs and Chubaiss. Kremlin stupidity, greed, loss of sense of reality. *It happened in Rostov - It ended badly* almost BG
    2. 0
      14 June 2014 00: 02
      Urgent: in the Rostov region shot down a helicopter of the Armed Forces of Ukraine

      It seems like a mess, the news appeared about three hours ago. There is no confirmation anywhere.
      But a Su-25 was shot down over Druzhkovka...

      MOSCOW, June 13 - RIA Novosti. In the Donetsk region, near the city of Druzhkovka, militias attacked a Ukrainian Air Force plane, Ukrinform reports, citing eyewitnesses to the incident.

      According to local residents, at about 19.50 local time (20.50 Moscow time), a combat aircraft flew over the city, on which a rocket was launched from Kramatorsk.

      "After that, a terrible roar was heard. Panic arose among the residents. Mobile communications immediately went out of order," eyewitnesses said.

      Ukrinform also refers to a message published on one of the militia's websites, which says that the shot down Su-25 of the Ukrainian Air Force allegedly fell near the Ulybka children's camp.

      RIA Novosti http://ria.ru/world/20140613/1011920341.html#ixzz34YDNL7oX
    3. EsTaF
      0
      14 June 2014 00: 21
      Well, not three armored personnel carriers came to us. And two :)
      1. 0
        14 June 2014 00: 46
        The third one got lost... will show up soon
  59. Dimas2
    +4
    13 June 2014 22: 35
    I remember Svanidze in the early 2000s hosted a series of programs broadcast across Russia 1, and in his nasal little nasty voice he spoke complete nonsense about the USSR, and I still couldn’t understand why he was shown on the central TV channel!! and now, after the cleansing of the media space of Svanidze and people like him, it has become either completely invisible or just a little bit...it would be great to remove him completely, it would be great..a rare hare!
  60. +4
    13 June 2014 22: 36
    Sometimes I regret that I don’t have a machine gun in my hands. I want to shoot this so-called 5th column. I hate it.
  61. Dracula
    +2
    13 June 2014 22: 37
    The life credo of people like Svanidze is *Always*... A half-breed Jew, a worse Russophobe than a person who hates everything Russian, but continues to enjoy the fruits of *Russian civilization, crap where he lives, look again. A rare *trash* and worthless little man.
  62. +3
    13 June 2014 22: 38
    If Svanidze is a historian, then I am the Chinese Emperor Qin Shi Huangdi!!! Stinker. I mean Svanidze.
  63. +3
    13 June 2014 22: 38
    Everyone understands perfectly well that everything is paid for... a talking head, people allowing a talking head to go on air.
    We can just as well mention Poland... Germany's ally in the annexation of Czechoslovakia... in violation of world law, it did not allow USSR troops to help Czechoslovakia, and then occupied part of its territory, with the tacit consent of England and France... the famous Munich collusion.
    So who is the accomplice in unleashing the Second World War...????
  64. +3
    13 June 2014 22: 42
    Dear friends! Well, why are you attached to this performance on a minor TV channel that no one watches, and outside the Moscow Ring Road many do not know about the existence of such a channel. You can look at “Historical Chronicles with Nikolai Svanidze” in your city, at any Rospechat kiosk, for free sale. 24 volumes, circulation in the thousands. And then go to any bookstore and look at the shelves with “military historical literature”, a good half there are memoirs of Wehrmacht soldiers and officers and “research” by Western analysts and domestic like-minded people of Nikolai Karlovich. Someone is publishes it and someone finances it. And this is called ideological sabotage. I have a question: do we need such freedom of speech? When will this stop and what needs to be done for this?
  65. +5
    13 June 2014 22: 42
    Has anyone ever wondered why this t.v.a.r. doesn’t come off the central channels?
  66. +1
    13 June 2014 22: 46
    There must be jackals like Svanidze so that the sovereign’s people don’t suck their paws.
  67. +5
    13 June 2014 22: 52
    Moreover, the opinion of the “historian” - and Mr. Svanidze positions himself that way

    I’m embarrassed by my illiteracy, but I ask for clarification: what does the abbreviation “G-N” before the surname Svanidze mean? Did I think correctly? Thank you in advance hi
    1. +1
      13 June 2014 23: 20
      You were thinking in the right direction, Ugh.
    2. +6
      13 June 2014 23: 25
      Quote: pvv113
      Did I think correctly?

      right, right laughing
  68. +2
    13 June 2014 23: 01
    God forbid if Russia is ruled by people like Svanidze.
    1. EsTaF
      0
      14 June 2014 00: 26
      Will people immediately discover such people and it will be easier to imprison them than now, as bastards, or what?
  69. +1
    13 June 2014 23: 04
    Quote: EsTaF
    "Nikolai Karlovich Svanidze is one of the" talking heads "that often appear on the screen, furiously throwing mud at the history of his Motherland."

    He hardly watered his homeland with mud.


    Historical? May be!
    But the real one - he tirelessly practices this.
  70. +2
    13 June 2014 23: 05
    What a nasty face, and what a bad person. There are simply no words. soldier am
  71. +3
    13 June 2014 23: 14
    Biography
    Named in honor of his grandfather, party leader Nikolai Samsonovich Svanidze, who was shot in 1937, a distant relative of Joseph Stalin’s first wife, E. S. Svanidze. Nikolai Svanidze’s paternal grandmother, Tsilya Isaakovna, was a member of the Bolshevik Party[8]. According to Nikolai Svanidze, she hated Stalin. For some reason, the children of stubborn Bolsheviks run beyond the cordon, and this one is crap here, a half-breed. On a par with the Waltzmans and others. am
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  73. sootechestvenik
    0
    13 June 2014 23: 18
    Quote: lankrus
    As I understand Stalin more and more. And now citizen Svanidze would have received his legal 10 years, without the right of correspondence, and would have knocked bodies at the door to those who pumped gas to the enemy, without payment (and we actually have a war with Dill), and would have sent funerals of the bastard of liberals to the courts so that later they would raise the economy of our beloved Motherland, some in the cutting areas and some in the uranium mines. Eh, your mother, which country was shaved.
  74. sootechestvenik
    +1
    13 June 2014 23: 19
    I agree with you until I'm hoarse
  75. Vladislav
    0
    13 June 2014 23: 22
    Regarding Svanidz - look at the root (about his dad) http://blog.kob.spb.su/2010/09/13/720/
  76. sootechestvenik
    0
    13 June 2014 23: 22
    Quote: lankrus
    As I understand Stalin more and more. And now citizen Svanidze would have received his legal 10 years, without the right of correspondence, and would have knocked bodies at the door to those who pumped gas to the enemy, without payment (and we actually have a war with Dill), and would have sent funerals of the bastard of liberals to the courts so that later they would raise the economy of our beloved Motherland, some in the cutting areas and some in the uranium mines. Eh, your mother, which country was shaved.

    I agree with you until I'm hoarse!!
  77. +2
    13 June 2014 23: 25
    The fifth column is completely lustrated! And lists of all these nits on every post in cities and towns. With names, addresses and places of work under the general heading - they are enemies of Russia. Time no longer allows us to delay.

    It's time to end them! am

  78. +2
    13 June 2014 23: 30
    There is no ruler whom Svanidze would not lick. There is no such dirty trick of the Democrats that he would not glorify. There is nothing bright in the life of the country and people that would not be spat upon by them.
    If it is not customary for us to hold people accountable for this today, we can find another way. The acts of the Accounts Chamber contain enough materials that make it possible to open a criminal case against the former head of VGTRK.
    Duma, give the destroyer what he deserves! Demand that the General Prosecutor's Office, following the Accounts Chamber, investigate the activities of the All-Russian State Television and Radio Broadcasting Company headed by Svanidze! am
  79. +1
    13 June 2014 23: 35
    What can you hear from Nikolai Karlovich Svanidze. Listeners of the Kommersant FM radio on Tuesday, March 5, 2013 could find out that Svanidze is a statesman-minded person. Same. True, he forgot to clarify in the interests of which state Nikolai Karlovich is thinking. Which I immediately reminded him of, asking him not to call me “Mr.” am
  80. 0
    13 June 2014 23: 37
    Here are the rest of Svanidze’s accomplices.......
    http://www.russophobia.net/42
  81. 0
    13 June 2014 23: 41
    In an article recently posted in Segodnya.ru, “Wasserman is needlessly offending Svanidze,” the author suggested that the endless historical blunders of Nikolai Svanidze are often caused not by a conscious desire to distort the truth, but by his primitive ignorance and extreme preoccupation with the fact that in politically incorrect totalitarian times was roughly called “informing.” Judging by the reaction in the blogosphere, not all readers share this point of view. Many simply do not want to understand that the desire to “signal,” from the point of view of Nikolai Svanidze, is ... the romantic tradition of musketeers. In childhood, a “sneak,” in youth, a “snitch,” in adulthood, a “traitor.” And in the time of his distant relative, he would have been "enemy of the people." "Musketeer" 3,14 RUR am
  82. +5
    13 June 2014 23: 47
    I wonder why Zhirinovsky doesn’t pay any attention to them. because if he wants, he will grind him into powder
  83. +5
    13 June 2014 23: 50
    Respecting the rules of the site, I apologize for the veiled rhetoric and change my comment to an acceptable and diplomatic one:
    Why do our liberals strive to seem more liberal than their Western colleagues, while our “blue” ones, just like the “greens”, “pink ones”..., “democrats” and others, bend over backwards to be “bluer”? "greener", "pinker"
    ...,"more democratic"
    ??
    Apparently the air in Russia is like this, either you love your Motherland with all its problems to the last drop of blood, or you hate it to the point of betrayal! Moreover, everything you have in life is like Svanidze’s: birth, peaceful childhood, education, social status, career and even the opportunity to be the most liberal of all the “gays”, all this thanks to the country that you throw mud at!
  84. sled 31844444
    -3
    13 June 2014 23: 55
    WOLF IN SHEEP'S CLOTHING !!!
    In the false laws of Putin’s bailiffs
    Sweet poison bane
    Russians do not become fascists
    Fascism has no truth
    © © MT
    The bitter truth in the words of MAKAREVICH
    Across the throat became
    To those whose sheepskin is bleak
    Wolf's mouth with a grin
    © © MT
    Who is fueling a feud
    Goebbels quotes in the Duma
    The beast in the Orthodox Church prays
    Before the icon is baptized
    © © MT
    There is no Judah in your country
    There are traitors in Russia
    At night, the executioner calls for humanity
    Price tags on corpses in the morning
    © © MT
    In the evening of an ode to the glory of Majesty
    Happy Raven in awards
    RUSSIANS have no money from a beggar
    The invaders of the truth !!!!
  85. +1
    14 June 2014 00: 12
    Good article. Let's say right away - all this crap is called NLP (neuro-linguistic programming).
    This is how perestroika began, this is how the USSR was destroyed, this is how Russia is being destroyed. Only a literate and educated person can resist this, and it is no coincidence that we are now fighting against education, it is the basis of man. Since perestroika, we have been taught to pray to the golden calf and view everything through the prism of self-interest, and they are trying to leave the words honor, love, kindness, compassion, friend, mutual assistance in the past.
    So maybe we can move back to the future, from which we ourselves turned away, tempted by free vouchers and pies.
  86. +6
    14 June 2014 00: 18
    and when will the Duma finally pass laws so that the fifth column won’t even dare to blather on something irrelevant?
  87. +3
    14 June 2014 00: 27
    x...essos Svanidze
  88. +1
    14 June 2014 00: 30
    REZUN'S "LAURELS" DO NOT GIVE REST, YOU HAVE DECIDED YOUR HISTORY YOU.S.R.A.T.
  89. +1
    14 June 2014 00: 48
    [quote=SSR][quote=iw-lankof2011]When will there be anyone who will punch this pop-eyed, slobbering face in a purely peasant way, without being afraid to get their hands dirty!?[/quote]
    Probably I could and would even do it with great pleasure, I just didn’t think seriously for one reason - we go on different roads and the probability of meeting is very small.
    I fully support him! Satanidze is an enemy! With great pleasure I would challenge him to prove the opposite.
  90. +2
    14 June 2014 00: 59
    It is clear that Svanidze, like any other person, has his own opinion on any matter. But he is a historian and a public person. Since the historian should know that the Soviet Union was not the first to sign an agreement with Hitler’s Germany. The same agreements were signed by England, France and Poland, and earlier than the Soviet Union. Either he doesn’t know this (which I doubt) or this is not specifically stated. It’s a shame that because of such people, who are not even very stupid, all sorts of Maidans happen. A public person must watch what he says. And he simply must love his homeland, which gave him the opportunity to live peacefully and get an education. Well, something like this. In general, I am very tired of attacks on the Soviet Union.
  91. iskra
    0
    14 June 2014 01: 01
    His last name is correctly spelled SVINYIDZE, son of Ishakashvili, grandson of Apesyana
  92. iskra
    +1
    14 June 2014 01: 04
    His last name is correctly spelled SVINIIDZE, son of IshaKASHvili, grandson of ApesYANA
  93. Vyacheslav0206
    0
    14 June 2014 01: 24
    Oh, and the corrupt magazines on our TV. But how skillfully they spelled out everything from the collapse of the Soviet Socialist Republic until this time. We were saved by one thing, MAIDANOLUT DURING AND WE WERE FUCKED BY REALIZING THAT IT’S TIME FOR US OURSELVES to pull the 5th column. Svanidze was a jackal and apparently he It’s a shame that in 2008 they took away his homeland right up to the tomatoes, and now he’s shitting himself.
  94. +5
    14 June 2014 01: 25
    Quote: iskra
    son of IshaKASHvili grandson of ApesYAN

    and grand-uncle of Abama)))))
  95. +2
    14 June 2014 01: 36
    For bedtime:
  96. 0
    14 June 2014 02: 09
    Quote: sgazeev
    He is a Russophobe and a hater of Russia.

    One of my acquaintances said about him back in the 90s, look on his forehead it’s written that he’s a g...he. WELL, IN GENERAL A RUBBER PRODUCT.
  97. +5
    14 June 2014 02: 22
    I can imagine how his teachers spit when they see him
  98. +2
    14 June 2014 02: 27
    Is this guy still on TV? Yes, you need to crush these reptiles without sparing your boots. In America, such a “historian” would have ended long ago. And they certainly wouldn’t let him say anything on TV or radio.
  99. +5
    14 June 2014 02: 30
    historian...)))) a figure who fancies himself a historian
  100. postman
    0
    14 June 2014 03: 50
    Quote: Author Nikolai Starikov
    In the contract, not a word about the union.

    K_O_L_YA (sorry, sorry, it’s in Russian)
    1.BES: UNION AGREEMENT - 1) in international law, an agreement between two or more states, the participants of which undertake in certain situations act together (eg, providing mutual assistance in case of war); 2) (don’t look, these are the Russian Federation and Belarus)
    2.Annex (any) to the agreement is an ESSENTIAL PART of it (unless otherwise agreed)
    3.Secret additional protocol to the Non-Aggression Treaty between Germany and the USSR (see paragraph 2)
    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ru/2/27/390823secr1.gif
    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ru/2/23/390823secr2.gif
    Should it be deciphered? (military actions, jointly planned, PRE-AGREED actions of the parties)??? Huh?
    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/38/Bundesarchiv_Bild_183-H

    27337%2C_Moskau%2C_Stalin_und_Ribbentrop_im_Kreml.jpg/408px-Bundesarchiv_Bild_18

    3-H27337%2C_Moskau%2C_Stalin_und_Ribbentrop_im_Kreml.jpg

    I don’t agree with the picture, but it shows how the little pies pooped themselves after signing it:
    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/df/Mucha_8_Wrzesien_1939_W

    arszawa.jpg/530px-Mucha_8_Wrzesien_1939_Warszawa.jpg
    4. You (the Author) with a group of comrades ripped off a respected (and smarter-smarter than you in any case) person who has a DIFFERENT POINT OF VIEW on history (reasonable, moreover), taking advantage of the Ukraine-Russia situation, the rise of patriotism, GDP ratings - quickly “forge iron for now” hot,” juggling the facts.
    5. Now, see point 4 - HOW ARE YOU DIFFERENT FROM UROPS (MAYDANUTYEK, YAYYENYUKH, PRAVITS SECTOR\) - which are now being reviled in Ukraine for 9 and 20 years already)?
    How? + / - everyone has their own truth, and the PRINCIPLE BEAT THOSE WHO DISAGREE.
    6. Should I remind you (the Author) how Molotov (obviously on behalf of the IVS) in Berlin DIVIDED the British Empire between Germany and the USSR (which, otherwise, is not bad for my country)? A?
    Isn't this:whose participants undertake to act together in certain situations (for example, providing mutual assistance in case of war)
    1. postman
      0
      14 June 2014 03: 53
      ==========================approx. I have an ambiguous attitude towards temporary detention facilities = I don’t know how to act in THAT situation, and how...
      However, Article 58 of the Criminal Code of the RSFSR (Interpret as you like - there is no Vyshinsky)
      58-1. Definition of counter-revolutionary activity.
      “Any action aimed at overthrowing or undermining or weakening the power of the workers' and peasants' councils and ... governments of the USSR, union and autonomous republics, or to undermining or weakening the external security of the USSR and the main economic, political and national gains of the proletarian revolution.»
      7.What do you (the Author) want?
      What would all be "Odobryams"? "American missiles and sun-crap"? -and whoever is against is the enemy,shot him

      SO IT ALREADY HAPPENED! Remind me where to turn Germans back?
      I don’t understand, these articles (and woof-woof at someone expressing a DIFFERENT point of view from “Whose” - how is it? (what?)
      WMR or populizm(SO How do you differ from GAY LYASHKO then?)
      ===================================
      (well, minuses and ban, I'm looking forward to it)