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USA: militias in eastern Ukraine have access to advanced weapons

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According to the INTERFAX.RU, on Thursday, White House spokesman Jay Carney said that, according to Washington, militias in eastern Ukraine, who shot down a military helicopter, have access to advanced weapons.


On Thursday, the press service of the National Guard reported that around a local time 12: 30 a military helicopter was shot down, which delivered food to a fourth roadblock. Killed 14 Ukrainian military, including General Sergei Kulchitsky.

According to Karni, the events near Slavyansk indicate that the militias still have access to modern arms and other outside help.

According to the agency, on Thursday, a representative of the US State Department Jennifer Psaki said that the US government is still not going to provide Ukraine with direct military assistance.

“We continue to monitor the situation, but have not yet changed our position on this issue,” she said at a briefing.

On the eve, Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko spoke of the need to conclude an agreement on military assistance with the United States.

“We have to conclude a new security agreement, like Lend-Lease. We must cooperate in the military-technical sphere, we also need military advisers. We are ready to fight for independence, and we must create the armed forces of Ukraine, ”he said in an interview with the British newspaper The Independent.
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  1. propolsky
    propolsky 30 May 2014 09: 12
    +46
    Of course, it’s not just one with precision weapons that puts the whole world on its knees!
    1. Vitaly Anisimov
      Vitaly Anisimov 30 May 2014 09: 15
      +98
      Militias have the most powerful weapon of all time! It is deployed in their souls and is called love for the motherland!
      1. Andrenaline
        Andrenaline 30 May 2014 09: 18
        +32
        They apparently call advanced MANPADS laughing good
        1. sso-xnumx
          sso-xnumx 30 May 2014 10: 25
          +5
          Yes, I.D.O.T.T. In Afghanistan and Chechnya, turntables with RPGs managed to knock out. If only you sleep .... Th!
        2. Ascetic
          Ascetic 30 May 2014 13: 25
          +5
          Quote: Andrenaline
          They apparently call advanced MANPADS


          Naturally, what else?
          Photo from Luhansk MANPADS "Igla". Perhaps this is one of the copies that disappeared from military skalads in March this year.
          ed65b Today, 12: 56
          And they bought needles from zapadentsev who worn them during the looting of warehouses in Galicia. so they surfaced.
      2. tilovaykrisa
        tilovaykrisa 30 May 2014 09: 19
        +44
        And they also have hands where they need to grow;
        1. papik09
          papik09 30 May 2014 09: 24
          +3
          Quote: tilovaykrisa
          And they also have hands where they need to grow

          Well, Duc, they don’t stink with hafn, they’re not growing from the ass repeat
        2. Geisenberg
          Geisenberg 30 May 2014 09: 28
          +9
          Quote: tilovaykrisa
          And they also have hands where they need to grow;


          Apparently the boys somewhere very well studied the use of ATGM :) :) :) So they knock them down everything he can reach :) I wonder where we managed to shoot like that ...
          1. Sid.74
            Sid.74 30 May 2014 09: 51
            +11
            Quote: Geisenberg
            Apparently the boys somewhere very well studied the use of ATGM :) :) :) So they knock down everything they can get to :)

            Comrades, what have you set up ATGM ATGMs! The shooter said the first turntables were beaten by "Flies" from two points across the line! And now with might and main the pictures of guys on the net are walking with NEEDLES! If there are NEEDLES to go with an ATGM!
            1. mamont5
              mamont5 30 May 2014 10: 26
              +3
              Quote: Sid.74
              If the NEEDLES are there, go out with ATGM!


              Right. Shot and forgot.
            2. ed65b
              ed65b 30 May 2014 12: 56
              +3
              Quote: Sid.74
              Quote: Geisenberg
              Apparently the boys somewhere very well studied the use of ATGM :) :) :) So they knock down everything they can get to :)

              Comrades, what have you set up ATGM ATGMs! The shooter said the first turntables were beaten by "Flies" from two points across the line! And now with might and main the pictures of guys on the net are walking with NEEDLES! If there are NEEDLES to go with an ATGM!

              And they bought needles from zapadentsev who worn them during the looting of warehouses in Galicia. so they surfaced.
        3. armageddon
          armageddon 30 May 2014 09: 55
          +20
          Hmm ... They have to shoot civilians with TURCHETS called: SUPPLY of the checkpoint with products ... PPC !!!
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      3. Sid.74
        Sid.74 30 May 2014 09: 22
        +17
        According to Carney, the events near Slavyansk indicate that the militias still have access to modern weapons and other outside help.

        Yes, the anti-aircraft gun of the 50s and MANPADS of the 70s! The newest very weapons! And of course the killer purple rays from Babai's eyes! This is the 5th downed helicopter and they just woke up! From Twitter psaki get information whether? Or, what did our "Verba" decide to test in Novorossiya? repeat
        Now google, and info from 29.05!

        The anti-aircraft missile regiment of the Ivanovo formation of the Airborne Forces is the first to adopt the Verba portable anti-aircraft missile systems (MANPADS), the Russian military department informs.

        "These MANPADS with a unique, unparalleled in the world, system of automated controls, have begun to enter the Airborne Forces," the press service of the Russian Defense Ministry said in a statement to Interfax-AVN on Thursday.

        The commander of the anti-aircraft missile regiment, Andrei Musienko, explained that "until the last moment, the process of controlling the anti-aircraft combat in the airborne forces was not automated, from the moment the senior commander found the target until the missile was launched by the anti-aircraft gunner, more than three to five minutes passed. "With the arrival of the new system, the process has accelerated more than ten times," said the officer, quoted by the press service.

        It is noted that the automated control system (ACS) in combat allows you to find an air target, determine its characteristics and distribute targets between anti-aircraft gunners and fire weapons, taking into account their location. "The human factor is excluded, the defeat of its air target, the amount of ammunition for the combat mission is saved, increasing the effectiveness of the use of anti-aircraft units," it was said in the message.

        Data on the air situation are automatically generalized, the target is assigned to a specific anti-aircraft weapon and the ACS gives the command to defeat it within a few seconds. This makes it possible for an anti-aircraft gunner armed with Verba MANPADS to prepare in advance for meeting and hitting an air target, the press release said.

        "The incoming control systems are fully interfaced with the Andromeda-D automated control system, which demonstrated its capabilities in March-April 2014 in the Arctic and near-polar zones in conditions of abnormally low temperatures," the press service informs.
        1. Irkutsk
          Irkutsk 30 May 2014 10: 32
          +11
          3-5 minutes is a lot, I was personally trained: from the moment of the command "air" to the start of the minute, the standard was kept within half a minute (this is when the product is still in the box at a distance of 10 meters from the shooter). On simulators with a product on the shoulder, deployed in the opposite direction, on command, a turn, capture and launch in 5-6 seconds along the SU-17, and at that time they were practicing a maneuver with heat traps and then emitted a combat approach at us (it was scary) ... Those who showed the best results were sent to combat firing on the tracker from the BM-23. This is how they taught us in the 80s on Strela 2M, he managed to hold the Igloo in his hands - before the demobilization, a Soviet secret came.
          1. tolancop
            tolancop 30 May 2014 11: 28
            +3
            The standards for some operations may well be overstated. Strictly speaking, they are not overstated, just due to "training" and the development of rational methods of work, they can be significantly reduced. In my unit, the people deployed a tent for routine maintenance for half the standard. And this is about 30% shortage of personnel.
            I also know other examples when the ingenuity of employees allowed them to act much faster than standards.
            1. northern
              northern 30 May 2014 17: 40
              +4
              Ours, when they switch to checkmate, troop control will be accelerated by 30%. for mate is short and clear. Yes, and the enemy of nichrome does not understand :-)
          2. Navy7981
            Navy7981 30 May 2014 15: 45
            +5
            "This is how they taught us in the 80s on Strela 2M, I managed to hold the Needle in my hands - before the demobilization, a Soviet secret one came."
            Class !!!
            Without irony, in fact, everything is simple, you repeat the action 1000 times and everything starts to work out. This applies to cross-stitching and the use of MANPADS and to control a tank, helicopter, ship i.e. to all. You just have to study, study and study.
      4. from punk
        from punk 30 May 2014 09: 23
        +15
        Quote: MIKHAN
        Militias have the most powerful weapon of all time! It is deployed in their souls and is called love for the motherland!

        and on this basis, the State Department will conclude that the militias have connections with Russia. let it be so. we will not deny
        1. Geisenberg
          Geisenberg 30 May 2014 09: 29
          +11
          Quote: punk
          Quote: MIKHAN
          Militias have the most powerful weapon of all time! It is deployed in their souls and is called love for the motherland!

          and on this basis, the State Department will conclude that the militias have connections with Russia. let it be so. we will not deny


          The State Department does not need any reason! They themselves are the foundation for anything! You just need to use free tips wisely. People said that the Russian Federation supplies weapons - that means we need to start supplying more ...
        2. gor530
          gor530 30 May 2014 09: 45
          +8
          I don’t understand why to deny if the Americans hear only themselves. It should be noted, this is their normal condition. it turns out that Russia is constantly justifying itself to everyone. need to change strategy. the best defense is an attack.
      5. doctor
        doctor 30 May 2014 09: 26
        +8
        LOVE FOR THE HOMELAND IS AND THERE IS LOVE OF GOD. GOD BLESS YOU.
      6. Ural guys
        Ural guys 30 May 2014 09: 52
        +5
        They just do not know. Look, I accidentally stumbled upon watching a video on Yatube here on this http://www.youtube.com/user/sania2009855 disadvantage.
        We see a few of them our grandfathers beat!
        There he also has an interesting video, where they openly (more precisely from the news channel 1 + 1 Kolomoisky) call the militias "Abwehr". This is what blasphemy one must have in order to fire at civilians from a 152 mm self-propelled gun, and then say that it is not us, we are here quietly and peacefully, we do not touch anyone. It's like they are themselves.
        So, those National Guard, bandits and militants of which, according to the militia, killed about 1,2-1,3 thousand. they are themselves too! Like this!
        1. Sid.74
          Sid.74 30 May 2014 10: 10
          +1
          Quote: Ural guys
          call the militias "Abwehr"

          Arrow has a right hand, a former consignee, nicknamed "Abwehr"! Can we talk about him?
        2. Horst78
          Horst78 30 May 2014 10: 29
          0
          Hmm sad the channel is still interesting. Need to know what they think.
          1. Drednout
            Drednout 30 May 2014 10: 36
            +2
            Quote: Horst78
            Need to know what they think.

            They think??? There brains ukrov like Breivik now. Well, not all of course, but many.
            1. Ural guys
              Ural guys 30 May 2014 12: 24
              0
              I think it’s not difficult to find this guy, but this is already the work of the corresponding special services. The surname seems to be real.
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      8. subbtin.725
        subbtin.725 30 May 2014 10: 59
        0
        Quote: MIKHAN
        Militias have the most powerful weapon of all time! It is deployed in their souls and is called love for the motherland!

        You can defeat the army, the army - the people can not be defeated. PS: to see good reinforcement came; the desire to fly will decrease.
    2. Gxash
      Gxash 30 May 2014 09: 29
      +16
      Yes! In addition to the MANPADS of the times of the USSR, AK-47 and a pair of Soviet BMDs, all the militias have the latest armored suits that are not inferior in their performance characteristics to the Iron Man suit, everyone drives walking robots from Star Wars and each has a pair of six-barreled laser machine guns!

      Get involved, by llududuroshny! This ultramodern weapon is called PATRIOTISM, courage and LOVE for the MOTHERLAND, and also HATE FOR FASCISM!

      These weapons, mattress, you never had and never will be!
    3. Wels75
      Wels75 30 May 2014 09: 38
      +6
      "...in the opinion of Washington, militias in eastern Ukraine who shot down a military helicopter have access to advanced weapons ... "

      Keyword According to! Here are the facts based on this ??? to the opinion of ghouls? Yeah, where to roll the world? Or already rolled !!! It is a fact!!! It is a provocation of special services to take out children from under fire! and here according to OPINION !!!! Zae these double standards already !!!!

      I also like the words of Parashenko: "..We are ready to fight for independence ..."
      Can I ask a question? "Are they dependent on whom? Are they NOT INDEPENDENT for 23 years already? Do they want to be independent from someone now? Or do they want to be even more independent than they were?"
      I don’t understand what (c), just like in that cartoon !!!
    4. xenod55
      xenod55 30 May 2014 09: 58
      +7
      On May 29, a helicopter was shot down near Slavyansk, as a result of which 12 Ukrainian security forces were killed. On this occasion, "a three-day mourning has been announced in Ivano-Frankovsk for those who died during the military operation in Slavyansk, among whom were residents of the Carpathian region," the press service of the city executive committee reported.
      The mourning will last from May 30 to June 1.
      According to the regional police department, among the dead in a helicopter in Donetsk region there were six employees of a special company of the Ministry of Internal Affairs in the Ivano-Frankivsk region - Vladimir Sharaburyak, Petr Ostapyuk, Vasily Semanyuk, Vladimir Lisenchuk, Petr Bezpalko, Viktor Yakovyak.
      One guardsman survived, he is in serious condition. "
      Played the bastard, got on the ears. There is nothing to climb into your garden. They wanted the land of Donbas. So you have allocated 2 square meters on the nose.
      1. gor530
        gor530 30 May 2014 10: 02
        0
        more such news, then maybe the Westerners will understand and begin to think that besides their opinion, there are others.
      2. Elena Urzhumova
        Elena Urzhumova 30 May 2014 11: 33
        +1
        And what the goblin popped them in the Donbass? On a tour?
    5. gor530
      gor530 30 May 2014 10: 14
      +2
      Americans as usual supply both warring parties. the whole story shows is their style and philosophy of life.
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      2. Aryan
        Aryan 30 May 2014 10: 21
        +2
        schA old cart about chemical weapons will begin ...
    6. Good_Taxist
      Good_Taxist 30 May 2014 10: 21
      0
      haha! penda everyone thinks that we cabbage soup claw !!!
    7. maks-101
      maks-101 30 May 2014 10: 39
      +1
      WASHINGTON, May 28 - RIA News. US President Barack Obama said Wednesday that the United States, having influenced world public opinion, was able to expose Russia to international isolation after the annexation of Crimea.

      “Our ability to shape world opinion helped isolate Russia immediately. Thanks to America’s leadership, the world immediately condemned Russian actions, Europe and the G7 joined us in imposing sanctions, NATO strengthened commitments to Eastern Europe, the IMF helped stabilize Ukraine’s economy, OSCE observers gave the world take a look at Ukraine's volatile regions, "Obama said, speaking at the West Point military academy in New York.

      "The mobilization of world (public) opinion and world institutions has become a counterbalance to Russian propaganda, Russian troops on the border and armed militias," the American president added. "We do not know how the situation will develop. There will be serious challenges. But our support for the allies on behalf of the international order gave the people of Ukraine a chance to choose their future," Obama said.
      it’s interesting only how problems will be solved without Russia, they don’t trust Americanos, and Europeans are sitting on the water.
    8. voldmis
      voldmis 30 May 2014 11: 28
      +3
      USA: militias in eastern Ukraine have access to advanced weapons


      It is what it is. There is a whole arsenal of Mosin rifles, PPSh and German MP 38/40. In addition, there are weapons from the time of World War I ... laughing Probably, these armored personnel carriers and helicopters knock out.

      The guys fight like partisans - that they took away from dill and fight.
    9. yushch
      yushch 30 May 2014 15: 30
      +3
      I saw a photo here on the site, a Ukrainian is on it. a crocodile flies along a forest stand at a maximum height of 50m. An ideal target for RPGs, especially if the pilots do not change their driving directions.
  2. Lyubimov
    Lyubimov 30 May 2014 09: 12
    +9
    Probably the first time I hope that this information from the State Department is true! God grant!
    1. igor_m_p
      igor_m_p 30 May 2014 09: 17
      +5
      Well, Strelkov seemed to say that there was some supply ... From the warehouses of the Ukrainian army smile It seems to have slipped in some of his interviews or statements ...
    2. comprochikos
      comprochikos 30 May 2014 09: 34
      +5
      But the mattress itself is afraid of direct armed assistance. They know that we will not be restrained, they will receive the most tomatoes. It’s not for them in the Baltic countries to ferment beer and piss in the corners.
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  3. Signaller
    Signaller 30 May 2014 09: 12
    +11
    Well, of course, because the militias, like people, are not made with a finger.
    1. SS68SS
      SS68SS 30 May 2014 09: 43
      +10
      ... On Thursday, the press service of the National Guard reported that at about 12:30 local time a military helicopter was shot down, who delivered food at the fourth checkpoint. Killed 14 Ukrainian soldiers including general Sergey Kulchitsky .....


      14 movers including and the general peacefully transported the products ..... wassat
      1. tolancop
        tolancop 30 May 2014 11: 35
        0
        Well, yes, the pinwheel drove the grub, and the general was for the forwarder ...
        And you know, such stupidity even pleases me ... How would I say this? ...
        A smart opponent is much more dangerous than a fool. I’m far from the idea that in the USA there are all fools and dumbasses, but if characters like Psaki crawl out onto the screens, then the country has obvious problems and the leadership is degrading.
      2. Nonik
        Nonik 30 May 2014 15: 16
        0
        Quote: SS68SS
        14 movers including and the general peacefully transported the products ..... wassat
        Theoretically, a helicopter could pick up a shift from artillery and at the same time pick up a general who issued valuable instructions there. Well maybe. And I saw a photo with bags of products (or whatever, but not ammunition).
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  4. Andrenaline
    Andrenaline 30 May 2014 09: 13
    +3
    Eh his words would be yes to God in the ears. It would be this weapon.
  5. rereture
    rereture 30 May 2014 09: 15
    +3
    Even if there is, we will not talk anyway, and the DNI too.
  6. Grach710
    Grach710 30 May 2014 09: 16
    +2
    He was going to create an army. He was late to drink Borjomi when the kidneys refused. How much of the city doesn’t always make a grump ... it turns out. The law of dialectics is m ... for. am
  7. asar
    asar 30 May 2014 09: 16
    +2
    Let's hope for the best, this is the only thing we can in this situation! We will live HOPE!
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    1. Rostovchanin
      Rostovchanin 30 May 2014 09: 24
      +4
      This bearded man is so clever, I x @ her .... no helicopters knocked out of a slingshot!

      Today on the site infa about atomic slingshots slipped! probably the militia recaptured these slingshots from the Natsiks!
    2. Wedmak
      Wedmak 30 May 2014 09: 26
      +4
      Yes, no, they threw nanotopors, finished off with nanowires.
  9. talnax7
    talnax7 30 May 2014 09: 19
    +2
    It can’t be. How is it that they give us change? This is not democratic.
  10. kartalovkolya
    kartalovkolya 30 May 2014 09: 21
    +5
    And what did you expect good gentlemen? Or did you think that Donbass would kneel in front of a fascist gang! And do not be surprised, gentlemen, arsonists if the DPR and LPR start to use something else that is very unexpected for you and your junta, but as Great Ded Kovpak said: "... great surprise causes Dresnyu "! And Kovpak knew what he was saying, so prepare diapers for yourself and your puppets! The industrial potential of Donbass will surprise you all more than once!
    1. Anper
      Anper 30 May 2014 10: 17
      +10
      Quote: kartalovkolya
      Or did you think that Donbass would kneel before a fascist gang!

      Tomorrow in Dnepropetrovsk they say goodbye to Nikolai Leonov, who died in the car that transported the wounded. 31 years. Multiple winner of kickboxing competitions, etc., coach, higher education, recently took the dignity. These are the FSB officers and the GRU officers fighting in the Donbass.
      Not being a special fan of rap, I still recommend listening to his clip. Nikolai himself is on the video. His bright memory.
      1. gor530
        gor530 30 May 2014 10: 31
        +7
        HONOR and RESPECT - TO PEOPLE WITH A BIG LETTER who gave their lives in the fight against the brown plague.
      2. Escander_84
        Escander_84 30 May 2014 22: 25
        +1
        Everlasting memory!!!
  11. VNP1958PVN
    VNP1958PVN 30 May 2014 09: 21
    +5
    Well, God forbid that these incomes run dry.
  12. fox21h
    fox21h 30 May 2014 09: 22
    +3
    Quote: asar
    USA: militias in eastern Ukraine have access to advanced weapons

    Still crying, say that it’s not fair and please respond to won.
    Say that this is a violation of the rules, because only the Americans and their henchmen should kill opponents with impunity.
    1. miscellanea
      miscellanea 30 May 2014 10: 30
      0
      Media: the bodies of soldiers killed in Donbass brought to Chechnya
      Posted by: RusStil | Date: 30.05.2014/1234/XNUMX | Source | [Views] XNUMX
      http://warfiles.ru/show-58758-smi-v-chechnyu-privezli-tela-pogibshih-v-donbasse-
      boycov.html
      The bodies of the fighters who died during the military clashes in the Donetsk region have been delivered to Chechnya over the past XNUMX hours, the Caucasian Knot portal reports with reference to local residents.

      As it became known to the publication, from 35 to 45 bodies were brought to the North Caucasus Republic. However, the law enforcement agencies did not comment on this information. According to unconfirmed reports, fighters of former special forces battalions and volunteers from other structures are sent to participate in the battles in Ukraine. Rumors about the appearance in Donetsk of armed immigrants from the Caucasus began to circulate a couple of weeks ago.

      Nobody denies the participation of Chechens in the battles in southeastern Ukraine, but there is no exact information on whether they act on their own initiative or execute someone’s order.

      As noted by the BBC correspondent Olga Ivshina, recent events show that the arrival of people similar to people from the Caucasus, Press significantly increased the fighting capacity of the so-called "people's militia of Donbass."

      Meanwhile, in an interview with UNIAN, the deputy commander of the Azov battalion of the Ukrainian Interior Ministry, Yaroslav Gonchar, said that 4,5 militants from Russia had illegally crossed the Ukrainian border in Donetsk and Luhansk regions.

      "In general, according to the data that I have, about 4,5 thousand fighters from Russia illegally entered the territory of Donetsk and Luhansk regions," he said.

      "These militants are rabble from all over the former Soviet Union," Gonchar said. According to the Azov commander, the Ukrainian border is not protected, and the militants have the opportunity to cross the state border. Russian officials have denied the presence of their military in Ukraine.

      “We hear that there are either our special forces or instructors. Responsibly I declare: there are no Russian instructors, no special forces, no troops, no one is there,” Russian President Vladimir Putin said at the end of April.
  13. Ilja 22
    Ilja 22 30 May 2014 09: 22
    0
    “We must conclude a new security agreement similar to Lend-Lease. We must cooperate in the military-technical sphere; we also need military advisers.

    Clowns, why bother about it, everyone has long been aware of your lizosovetsnikov and leaseholders
  14. yulka2980
    yulka2980 30 May 2014 09: 22
    +5
    And they thought that the militia would fire at them from the slingshot in response ?! How mattresses were already fed up with their stupidity.
    1. papik09
      papik09 30 May 2014 09: 27
      0
      Quote: yulka2980
      mattresses are already tired of their dullness.

      Well, stupid they ....
  15. Anisim1977
    Anisim1977 30 May 2014 09: 23
    +5
    The answer to the Americans is the law of the market - there would be a demand, there would be a proposal. Hohlyatsky ensigns since ancient times are the most cunning, I won’t be surprised if you can buy a tank. am
  16. ArhipenkoAndrey
    ArhipenkoAndrey 30 May 2014 09: 23
    +2
    The newly "popularly elected" Fuhrer of All Ukraine has the same thoughts, abroad will help us, feed us and put us to sleep, just open your mouth, one word of a temporary worker who is only interested in pocket interests, because not a word about the need to restore the economy, sow fields, in general to work for the good of Ukraine, so no, it is necessary to fight, to strengthen the plundered and ruined army, to crush the South-East, and so on. a direct road to the ruin of the country.
    1. comprochikos
      comprochikos 30 May 2014 09: 54
      +1
      Yes, all of Ukraine has already been sold to Americans, grandmas are paid and striped it will begin to use as they want. But these morons fascist naively think of independence. When they realize that they were simply pulled, it will be too late.
      1. Serg 122
        Serg 122 30 May 2014 10: 12
        0
        When they realize that they just pulled
        Do you think that they do not know? In my opinion, they all know and the half-singers themselves are parted ... In their (Geyrope) - it’s very fashionable now No.
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  17. tolyasik0577
    tolyasik0577 30 May 2014 09: 24
    +3
    I know this advanced weapon, this is the Motherland, God and someone's mother. the current is not so modern, my grandfather also went to Fritz with him.
  18. cerbuk6155
    cerbuk6155 30 May 2014 09: 24
    +1
    Weapons and assistance urgently provide NEW RUSSIA in an unlimited amount. drinks
  19. Tyrant
    Tyrant 30 May 2014 09: 26
    +6
    ahem ...
    Do you carry food on helicopters? 14 people each? and General Sergey Kulchitsky (head of the National Guard Guard’s Combat and Special Training Directorate) personally had to hand these dry packs?
    Is a downed helicopter evidence of the presence of precision weapons?
    Lord minke whales are delirious and not even shy. they just do not know how. they used to lie always, everywhere and in everything.
    1. gor530
      gor530 30 May 2014 10: 04
      +2
      food meant "meat". one "meat runs on the ground, the other tries to fly."
  20. maxbrov74
    maxbrov74 30 May 2014 09: 26
    +7
    I don’t understand - what kind of man is this? Where are the Paski? Paski to the studio!
    1. pensioner
      pensioner 30 May 2014 09: 50
      +2
      Quote: maxbrov74
      I don’t understand - what kind of man is this? Where are the Paski? Paski to the studio!

      Yeah ... Not that caliber clown ...
  21. bugaev2005
    bugaev2005 30 May 2014 09: 27
    +2
    I would like to ask Poroshenko personally, but what have you been doing all the years of independence? What money did you personally create your chocolate empire with? As far as you know, you were not the last person in the Ukrainian hierarchy ... This is so by the way ... but in general it’s too late for you to drink Borjomi ...)))
  22. siberalt
    siberalt 30 May 2014 09: 27
    +4
    The State Department said there was still access to weapons. Yes, no from just started! laughing
  23. valentina-makanalina
    valentina-makanalina 30 May 2014 09: 27
    +2
    Does Carney think the militia will be with bats and gas cans? There are people who served in the army of the USSR, Russia and Ukraine. They know what and how to fight. Unfortunately, modern weapons are not enough, but this is a matter of time.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 30 May 2014 09: 31
      +2
      Quote: valentina-makanalina
      Does Carney think the militia will be with bats and gas cans?

      Well, of course, it's not fair when the militias can also use weapons.
  24. soyuz-nik
    soyuz-nik 30 May 2014 09: 28
    +4
    Well, yes, yes .... There, Strelkov has a squad of cyborg bees, a regiment of nano-cockroaches and a battalion of trained rats with electrodes in their heads ....

    No matter what the turntables shoot down, this is not a CIA dog thing! They will beat and beat! Already would SU-shki would beat (God willing!) .....

    Potrokhshenko and the CIA-shniki will soon add that there are weapons of mass destruction in Novorossia and they will shake some cones ..... And this turn will reach the bastard ....
  25. Flinky
    Flinky 30 May 2014 09: 28
    +4
    Something similar to Conchita.
  26. Wedmak
    Wedmak 30 May 2014 09: 28
    +2
    Were these the last helicopters or are there still? Hopefully, the Needles and other militias will appear. In order not to be familiar. And a couple of "Tulips" to Donetsk.
  27. kombat58
    kombat58 30 May 2014 09: 32
    +3
    Well, after all, Ukraine is a civilized European state that produces missiles, planes, tanks. By the way, not in Lviv! Why shouldn't modern technologies be here. Tea is not Africa! And everyone understands this, but all the same we squeal about the "hand of Moscow".
    Well, yes, well, Moscow has got hands. You could not amputate them, you could not!
    And most importantly, Moscow has a SOUL. And this is such a state-of-the-art technology that nobody has managed to copy or buy!
    With which I congratulate all of us!
  28. zorcher
    zorcher 30 May 2014 09: 36
    +2
    Well nifiga yourself, the whole general was carrying food !! Stunned, this is a concern for personnel
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    2. alexng
      alexng 30 May 2014 10: 24
      +1
      DUK, like they were shot down on the way back. Did this general take away grubs from soldiers? Nefig climb into a strange monastery with its charter.
  29. Yun Klob
    Yun Klob 30 May 2014 09: 37
    +1
    Well, I expressed my opinion. But in my opinion there was no advanced weaponry, they shot down a catapult.

    Yes, and since the helicopter was carrying "food", these 14 dead were intended to be devoured? What a sensation, damn it!
    1. ldimon
      ldimon 30 May 2014 11: 09
      0
      Judging by the number of passengers, and even with a full ammunition load, it must be assumed that there were heels of boxes with carcasses in the maximum landing weight crawled with a stretch. They themselves "pulled" themselves all over the world, they shot down a purely combat mission, they correctly shot down. minus), learn to think with your head.
  30. cup
    cup 30 May 2014 09: 38
    +2
    Well, at least they didn’t say about chemical weapons. otherwise the United States would definitely give the sanction to the campaign to the Southeast.
  31. raven75
    raven75 30 May 2014 09: 38
    +3
    These mattress covers are strange. What they are not the only ones who can do very well (MANPADS, for example) is "advanced weapons." So the USSR knows when it started making them ... As well as a bunch of other military equipment that is not inferior, and most often superior to the American one. In general, as theirs mongrels got in the teeth, they begin to drive the blizzard.
  32. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 30 May 2014 09: 40
    +9
    Our eyes are kind and calm .. Because the truth is with us!
  33. Mails
    Mails 30 May 2014 09: 40
    +5
    Who read the text? a military helicopter was shot down, which delivered food to the fourth checkpoint. 14 Ukrainian soldiers were killed, including General Sergey Kulchitsky

    I want to look at the Ukrainian helicopter (we don't attach the Chinook here) with vegetables, where loading and unloading requires 14 soldiers + instead of the foreman, a full GENERAL supervises these works. (The sergeant or captain is clearly not enough here)

    And they still haven’t been able to deliver the toilet bowls to the block post ?????
  34. GROM
    GROM 30 May 2014 09: 40
    +6
    The General and 13 people drove him to a checkpoint, and the bastards terrorists KILL THEM. They would have written that they were carrying humanitarian aid to victims of terrorist oppression. As in amerovsky;)
  35. papont64
    papont64 30 May 2014 09: 41
    +2
    And thank God that is, not all of the anti-tank rifles helicopters to blame !!!)))
  36. jovanni
    jovanni 30 May 2014 09: 42
    +1
    According to Carney, the events near Slavyansk indicate that the militias still have access to modern weapons and other outside help.

    Justification for the invasion of NATO prepare p.adly !?
  37. Shadowcat
    Shadowcat 30 May 2014 09: 42
    +7
    "It's not fair," says an anonymous spokesman for the National Guard, "They have live ammunition!"
  38. mojohed2012
    mojohed2012 30 May 2014 09: 42
    +8
    Right Everything the United States accuses us of must be done, but implicitly.
    They say that Chechens are going - let them go.
    They say that MANPADS supplies - increase supplies.
    They say that specialists are at war - let them learn. Soon you will have to go to Fashington.
    They say that machine guns and machine guns are being transported in columns - carry railway trains.
    They say that planes and helicopters are falling due to breakdowns - hammer C-300 further.
    They say that carousels in the East and South - you will be a bloody carousel bastards.
  39. Tor hummer
    Tor hummer 30 May 2014 09: 43
    +2
    Apparently, those 40 KAMAZes that Ukrainian media wrote about really broke through the border.
    We need more reinforcements to send.
  40. Anchonsha
    Anchonsha 30 May 2014 09: 44
    +2
    Through the mouth of Psaki, the most vile country continues to lie about the lack of assistance to Ukraine in terms of arms supplies. Yes, Ukraine already has all kinds of weapons: from Polish to Czech, and at the same time of different directions. But Psaki claims that a helicopter shot down by Slavic heroes with the military, led by General Kulchitsky, was transporting food for one of the checkpoints.
    1. pensioner
      pensioner 30 May 2014 10: 45
      +3
      Quote: Anchonsha
      But Psaki claims that a helicopter shot down by Slavic heroes with the military, led by General Kulchitsky, was transporting food for one of the checkpoints.

      So since the time of the war it is known that:
      Cucumbers - shells 76 mm.
      Seeds - cartridges
      Watermelons - shells for howitzers ...
      In general: everything for vinaigrette ...
  41. Giant thought
    Giant thought 30 May 2014 09: 44
    +1
    It is necessary to provide even more assistance to the militia, so that the mattress covers shut up, and the Maidan people wash themselves with their own blood.
  42. Victor-M
    Victor-M 30 May 2014 09: 44
    +5
    According to INTERFAX.RU, on Thursday the White House spokesman Jay Carney said that, according to Washington, the militias in eastern Ukraine who shot down a military helicopter have access to advanced weapons.

    Yeah, super advanced weapon - "HIGH-PRECISION ROLLER"... It was he who shot down a "peaceful" helicopter carrying "food". laughing
  43. pensioner
    pensioner 30 May 2014 09: 45
    +1
    and we must create the armed forces of Ukraine
    what They create something that is not there yet. And then who is fighting in the Southeast? And then what is the defense minister doing in the government? Paradox...
  44. xbhxbr-777
    xbhxbr-777 30 May 2014 09: 46
    +1
    I don’t understand, Americans are not people, or something, if they would attack this house (Jay Carney), what would he do ?! belay
  45. dr.Bo
    dr.Bo 30 May 2014 09: 48
    0
    The United States lives in its own world. Their fantasies border on schizophrenia. wassat
  46. maxim1
    maxim1 30 May 2014 09: 52
    +3
    3,14ndos make an encouraging gesture and push Boar on the genocide of civilians in order to destabilize a united spiritual front against the Kiev authorities, while provoking hysteria in the rest of the Ukrainian community. Yes, such sophisticated villains as 3,14ndosy have not seen the light yet.
  47. volot-voin
    volot-voin 30 May 2014 09: 58
    +2
    And what did they expect that Donbas with a pitchfork on tanks will go? I think that dill hedgehogs did not seem enough.
  48. imugn
    imugn 30 May 2014 10: 00
    0
    We started preparing public opinion on the need for military assistance to Ukraine
  49. Sigismund
    Sigismund 30 May 2014 10: 04
    0
    Easy article, with a deep sense for further increase, confrontation.
  50. Anatolich
    Anatolich 30 May 2014 10: 06
    +4
    I remember in March it seems that many MANPADS complexes were stolen in some parts of western Ukraine, so they can go, if the Amer Suhpai managed to sell, then MANPADS, which cost a lot more than a sin, could not be sold. Yarosh also needs to live on something and keep an army, but helicopters are not his, so he can only do it if several ukrovoyak helicopters are shot down.