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"God is on the side of the big battalions." Army must be a nationwide affair

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The headline words of Napoleon Karlovich Bonaparte have been repeatedly refuted. history: small, highly professional armies so often coped with large, but poorly trained, that the words of Alexander Vasilyevich Suvorov "are fighting not with numbers, but with skill," we perceive as an axiom. In fact, Suvorov conducted 62 battles, won all of them, and only one of them had troops that were numerically comparable to the enemy. True, his last campaign - to Switzerland - ended with a retreat, for the French troops, although clearly trained worse than the Russians, were so much more that the whole Suvorov art would not be enough to defeat them.


A small digression from the topic. We have considered to be the main reason for the failure of Suvorov's betrayal of the allies: the Austrians not only did not come on time, but did not ensure the supply of troops. But it seems to me a much more significant error of Suvorov himself, generated by the lack of experience in the mountains. He planned a maneuver that had succeeded on the plain more than once: two Russian (under the command of Chernyshev and Suvorov himself) and two Austrian detachments were to walk four passes into the valley where the French settled down, and simultaneously crush the enemy without allowing him to maneuver reserves. But in the mountains it is very difficult to comply with the planned speed of movement, and there were not yet any means of communication fast enough to synchronize the movement of troops. As a result, the French were able to concentrate forces consistently against each unit - and threw them all. Suvorov's detachment was the last to enter the valley - and it turned out to be forced not only to retreat, but to retreat from the oppressor who repeatedly attacked the enemy. The withdrawal itself over the almost impregnable mountains was a miracle of art and courage - but if the same Austrians helped Suvorov with advice, stemming from their own centuries-old experience of mountain war, he would undoubtedly have created the best strike plan.

Suvorov is the most famous, but far from the only multiple winner of a numerically superior opponent. Of course, most often such a victory is ensured by a substantial inequality of experience, training, organization, and technical equipment of the troops.

For example, the main reason for the victories of Suvorov himself was dizzying, unimaginable for other armies of that time, the speed of movement of his troops. The point here is not only in the skills of the legendary wonder-heroes. The main thing is a new way of feeding them. From time immemorial, soldiers on a halt prepared for themselves food. Detained for several hours - but almost did not rest. Suvorov began to send a horse-drawn carriage with equestrian military outposts to the intended place of halt. When the cooks arrived, they immediately went to work, and the ready-made hot food met the incoming infantry. The halts became much shorter, while the soldiers rested better and then moved much faster than with the old method. The next stage of the march’s acceleration was the camp kitchen - its inventor, Colonel Anton Fedorovich Turchanovich, created it in 1903, tested 1904 – 1905 in the Russo-Japanese War and received a patent in 1907. Since then, nothing better has been invented for this part.

There were other reasons. Ever since ancient times, during the clashes of European troops with Asian or African affairs, better organization was decisive: the correct system easily overcomes the shapeless crowd. And the difference in weaponry worked better for the Greek heavy infantry protected - again in the correct build - easy to bully the Persians; a relatively long-range firearm overcame any number of archers, simply not allowing them a distance where they could take advantage of the rate of fire; and the British poet Bellock proudly wrote in 1898: “Whatever happens, we have got the maxim gun, and they have not” - “For every question there is a clear answer: we have“ Maxim ”, they don't have it”.

In addition, the whole world remembers the era of feudalism, when several dozen warriors, clad in armor and skillfully operating with military tools (from dagger to spear), could keep a considerable province in obedience. Moreover, this situation suited the bulk of the obeying inhabitants of this province: to keep these warriors, of course, is very expensive, but still much cheaper than throwing a household from time to time and going into battle, from where you can still not return.

Not surprisingly, the idea of ​​a small, highly professional army is eminently seductive and is regularly discussed in earnest - primarily by the professional military themselves. For example, among the supporters of this concept was a young officer - then not a general, but a captain - Charles de Gaulle. He even became one of the creators of the idea purely tank troops, for they embodied at a new technical level the same knight squad in invulnerable armor with all-crushing spears.

But historical practice proves: a small highly professional army is good against a small, but low professional army. Faced with a large - even if not so skillful - army, she eventually grins off about her. And when a few professionals are coming to an end, it turns out that they are simply not replaced.

For example, the Germans in World War II relied on a relatively small, but very highly effective in terms of technical indicators. Aviation with a few pilots - but well trained. But it turned out: this organizational principle, to put it mildly, does not work very well. In the battle for Britain, where on the other side of the invisible air line there were almost as few, but also well-trained pilots, Germany was able to cause serious damage to the enemy, but could not win. And throughout most of World War II, Germany did have a significant advantage over Soviet aviation both in the quality of aircraft and in the quality of pilot training. An ace that has flown several hundred hours at a flight school is more likely to beat an adversary flying a hundred hours in an aero club in purely training vehicles, and on a combat aircraft, spent only 5-10 hours in the air in order to get comfortable with basic control techniques. But when this same ace collides with four novice pilots - well, he will bring down one or two, but will fall under the fire of the remaining ones and will also be shot down. And when Germany ran out of stock of pilots with pre-war training, it turned out that its pilot training system was simply not designed to make up for these losses: at the end of the war, the bulk of German pilots were the same green recruits with a few hours of flying on a combat aircraft, as we have in the beginning of the war — only we had such newcomers, but they have few. It didn’t even help that the German fighters flew a little faster: our cars were more maneuverable than the German ones, and our pilots learned to use this maneuverability - and the German newcomers could neither maneuver, nor stay in the group, nor even look around in search of the enemy.

I think that even nowadays, the fascination with a small, highly professional, well-equipped army is possible only as long as you have to fight with a deliberately weakest opponent who is not able to oppose this army either to an army that is technically well-equipped, or numerically superior. If even one of these options appear, small highly professional army will sooner or later, it is easy, or with heavy losses, but broken.

Fashionable now deserted military equipment - such as drones - also works only against known weak opponents. If you are trying to act against really serious power, then this force will be able to intercept your radio signals, with the help of which you aim your drones (it happened, as far as I know, a couple of years ago in Iran), and create your own drones capable of fighting your and destroy them.

Ultimately, in the collision of any comparable troops, everything will again be rested on the same factors that have been working from completely immemorial times throughout military history: the strength of the spirit of the warriors, giving them the opportunity to resist a well-trained opponent, and learn well themselves, and the strength of the spirit people willing to create and maintain such soldiers in sufficient quantities and to supply them with sufficient quality.

Well, those who (like the United States of America for most of their military history) are counting on unpunished shooting of an unarmed enemy from a safe distance, sooner or later stumble upon an enemy armed and able to approach them at a dangerous distance, and get for their arrogance proper punishment.
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  1. Wels75
    Wels75 28 May 2014 14: 11
    +17
    "But historical practice proves: a small, highly professional army is good against a small, but low-professional army. When faced with a large - even if not so skillful - army, it eventually grinds against it. professionals are coming to an end it turns out that there is simply no one to replace them. "
    There is always a beginning and an end! and you can’t get away from it !!! see highlighted
    1. alauda1038
      alauda1038 28 May 2014 14: 39
      +3
      the Germans realized this in 1943 when the whole skeleton was knocked out
      1. rkkasa xnumx
        rkkasa xnumx 28 May 2014 14: 49
        +13
        Quote: alauda1038
        the Germans realized this in 1943 when the whole skeleton was knocked out


        Actually, the German army in WWII cannot be called small.
        1. krechet-1978
          krechet-1978 28 May 2014 15: 37
          +3
          Before Hitler came to power, the Wehrmacht was a compact and highly professional organization in 100.000 of the best military personnel - they formed the backbone of the invading armies. Well, by the beginning of WWII, the Germans had mobilized a very large army, I agree with you.
          1. andj61
            andj61 28 May 2014 16: 26
            +1
            Quote: krechet-1978
            Before Hitler came to power, the Wehrmacht was a compact and highly professional organization of 100.000 of the best military personnel.

            In fact, it was not the Wehrmacht, but the raver.
          2. Setrac
            Setrac 28 May 2014 22: 03
            +1
            Quote: krechet-1978
            Before Hitler came to power, the Wehrmacht was a compact and highly professional organization of the 100.000 best military personnel - they formed the backbone of the invading armies.

            Invasions where? 5.5 million Wehrmacht soldiers with satellites invaded the USSR, against 3.2 million Red Army soldiers.
        2. andj61
          andj61 28 May 2014 16: 27
          0
          Quote: rkkasa 81
          Quote: alauda1038
          the Germans realized this in 1943 when the whole skeleton was knocked out


          Actually, the German army in WWII cannot be called small.


          It was about the German pilot aces of fighter aircraft.
          1. rkkasa xnumx
            rkkasa xnumx 28 May 2014 17: 03
            0
            Quote: andj61

            It was about the German pilot aces of fighter aircraft.


            Comment alauda1038 shown as an answer to:

            Quote: Veles75
            veles75 (1) Today, 14:11 ↓
            "But historical practice proves that a small, highly professional army is good against a small, but low-professional army. When faced with a large - even if not so skillful - army, it eventually grinds against it.
      2. krechet-1978
        krechet-1978 28 May 2014 15: 34
        +3
        Even before the beginning of the 1942 year, while the Germans were making their way to Moscow, the Wehrmacht suffered such losses in professional military personnel that it could never recover. In 1941, the professionalism of the Germans broke about the courage and sacrifice of the defenders, and then the professionalism of the Germans declined and the Red Army increased.
        1. Weniamin
          Weniamin 29 May 2014 06: 29
          0
          And yet, in 1943, during the Battle of Kursk, the last reserve of Germany in technology and people was ground. Germany was no longer able to make up for these losses.
    2. figter
      figter 28 May 2014 14: 43
      +2
      Indeed, professionals are coming to an end.
      The beginning of this "end" was laid quite recently, when the last time under Serdyukov the army was slaughtered. It hurt like a pig. As a result, instead of professionals in some part of its own, another category remained, without a profession. And what can this certain part, once amorphous among professionals, teach young people now? That's why it hurts. But when the glow flares up and the real results of the work done are revealed, will those with whom they have already done thanklessly once forget the insult? Probably they will forget and come. They are from a different test.
      1. max702
        max702 28 May 2014 15: 51
        +5
        And this is not only about the army, look at any area of ​​our life, industry, science, medicine, education, agriculture .. Everything is ruined by such "Serdyukovs" .. And the funny thing is, we will perfectly fill the names of these craftsmen.
    3. Nikolav
      Nikolav 28 May 2014 15: 02
      +6
      Another conclusion that Anatoly did not note is that you must have a prepared reserve in stock. That is, to abolish military service in such a huge country as ours is simply criminal.

      "And when Germany ran out of pilots with pre-war training, it turned out that its pilot training system was simply not designed to make up for these losses."

      A similar situation arose during the 2nd MV and in Japan, when skilled pilots were knocked out, and there was no one to fill them. Hence, it is from hopelessness and a large number of kamikazes.
    4. 222222
      222222 28 May 2014 15: 58
      +2
      Historical examples are incomparable .. But with such a small volume of the article it’s difficult to reveal the topic even to a genius ..
      A state is a type of state — its economic potential — its military-economic potential — military potential — a military doctrine — a program for the construction and technical equipment of troops ..........
    5. Alekseev
      Alekseev 28 May 2014 19: 28
      +4
      Quote: Veles75
      But historical practice proves that a small, highly professional army is good against a small, but low-professional army.

      Well, this is also a horse (military special smile ) understandably.
      Here on the forum more than once this question was raised.
      Indeed, Buonopartiy is right, his phrase is also translated like this: "big battalions are always right"
      This is for those who do not understand why urgent service is needed.
      1. biznaw
        biznaw 28 May 2014 22: 23
        +2
        1-year fixed-term service is meaningless
  2. Giant thought
    Giant thought 28 May 2014 14: 14
    +3
    Again, ultimately it rests on a person, a warrior, his fighting, moral qualities, his fighting spirit. With these, we are all right, but the mattresses have problems with this. Therefore, they will not defeat us.
    1. max422
      max422 28 May 2014 14: 25
      +3
      and at the moment our fighting spirit is going through the roof,
      and the pendas is rapidly falling.
      There is an idea that the United States has slipped into all the bad things that happened in the USSR and is confidently following its path to a quick collapse (censorship, stagnation, a kind of iron curtain)
      The Russian Federation, however, follows the best moments of the creation of the EU, only slightly different (in our case, taking into account the local mentality and the spiritual and physical development of society)
    2. max702
      max702 28 May 2014 15: 55
      +6
      Spirit is wonderful! But we must not forget about technological superiority, and this is precisely what the United States is seeking all over the world to drive countries into the Middle Ages, destroying education, science and industry. You can fight with the Papuans without a high spirit.
      1. smart Fox
        smart Fox 28 May 2014 17: 07
        +2
        but you don’t have to fight at all, give the Papuans glass beads and Uk..a, that is, your Papuan
  3. Good cat
    Good cat 28 May 2014 14: 19
    +7
    The thesis has already been voiced earlier: a professional army is basically a police function, a war is a people's army.
    1. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 28 May 2014 14: 28
      +8
      Quote: Good cat
      Thesis has already been voiced

      When the German chancellor (in my opinion, Kohl) was asked why such a rich country like Germany would not replace conscripts with contract soldiers, he replied - "as long as the sons of the German people serve in the German army, this is a guarantee that the army will not go against the people." We see confirmation of this in Ukraine. hi +
  4. mig31
    mig31 28 May 2014 14: 21
    +3
    God is on the side of the right-winged people, and the power is in truth, for which the people shed their blood ...
    1. sanyavolhv
      sanyavolhv 28 May 2014 21: 47
      0
      Quote: mig31
      God is on the side of the righteous people


      or maybe all the same replace the word Orthodox with the word of HONEST people? Unfortunately, Orthodoxy has remained the only culture no less honest with God. (My stupidity) there are several more honest cultures with God. it’s good that they don’t try to fight on a world scale. but it looks like they will start soon too, I hope not with us
    2. sanyavolhv
      sanyavolhv 28 May 2014 21: 47
      0
      Quote: mig31
      God is on the side of the righteous people


      or maybe all the same replace the word Orthodox with the word of HONEST people? Unfortunately, Orthodoxy was the only culture no less honest with God. (my stupidity) there are several more honest with the god of cultures. it’s good that they don’t try to fight on a world scale. but it looks like they will start soon too, I hope not with us
    3. wasjasibirjac
      wasjasibirjac 29 May 2014 04: 16
      +2
      Quote: mig31
      God is on the side of the righteous people

      trust in God and don’t condone yourself. if there are no trained professionals, the end will be. without prepared reserves, any professional army in a serious conflict will simply end after some time.
  5. Arh
    Arh 28 May 2014 14: 23
    0
    Yes, we have a good army professional and advanced technology !!! soldier
    1. alauda1038
      alauda1038 28 May 2014 14: 42
      +2
      there must be a balance between conscription and contract soldiers where it is redundant to keep contractors and somewhere close to conscripts
  6. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 28 May 2014 14: 25
    +1
    "at the end of the war, the bulk of the German pilots were the same green novices
    with several hours of flying on a combat aircraft, "///

    Wrong. Cadets who did not fly off a few TENS hours, even in April 1945
    they didn’t let war planes fly at the helm!
    The Luftwaffe pilots at the end of the war were no worse than at the beginning - only they were few, and
    there was no fuel, no aircraft.
    1. rkkasa xnumx
      rkkasa xnumx 28 May 2014 14: 54
      +3
      Quote: voyaka uh
      The Luftwaffe pilots at the end of the war were no worse than at the beginning - only they were few, and
      there was no fuel, no aircraft.


      Our veterans and the Germans say that the average Luftwaffe pilot became worse during the war.
    2. 11111mail.ru
      11111mail.ru 28 May 2014 16: 33
      +1
      Quote: voyaka uh
      The Luftwaffe pilots by the end of the war were no worse than at the beginning - only there were few of them, and there was no fuel or aircraft.

      I disagree about the planes. On the Internet, the figure of 1000 "Focke-Wulfs" and "Messerschmitts" at the time of the surrender of the "Third Reich" is walking. "Invincible" Eric Hartman (they say) received a prison sentence for having burned his plane (damage to socialist property!). The "invincible Germanic spirit" was broken, that's all.
      1. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 28 May 2014 18: 10
        +2
        More likely a shortage of fuel than airplanes - you are right.
        But the record of a broken spirit is no confirmation. Most
        the remaining (and pretty defeated) parts of the Wehrmacht surrendered
        organized at the end of April 45 by order of their officers.
  7. Akvadra
    Akvadra 28 May 2014 14: 29
    +5
    Anatoly, as always, is detailed and "looks at the root"! The old slogan - People and Army are one, is not at all trivial. One cannot exist without the other. And in our case, even more so.
  8. Mareman Vasilich
    Mareman Vasilich 28 May 2014 14: 31
    +5
    Anatoly, although not a military man, is close friends with logic and analysis, well explained.
    1. krechet-1978
      krechet-1978 28 May 2014 15: 45
      -1
      Yes, in general I agree, but in order for amateurs to overwhelm a professional, the superiority in quantity must be of high quality. Those. One ace - can burn chicks while there is ammunition and fuel in the tanks. It's like playing chess with a grandmaster - in turn, he can beat as many beginners and even rank-and-file players. But when playing simultaneously, you need 10-20 opponents who can tire the master and he will make a mistake somewhere. Those. a professional hand-to-hand fighter, a sniper, a tank crew, an air ace require not a multiple superiority of forces over themselves, but a superiority of forces by an order of magnitude (s) greater in order to cope with them. But this is a piece product - it is very difficult and long to replenish.
  9. Alexandr 2
    Alexandr 2 28 May 2014 14: 33
    +6
    And Suvorov said: "There are not so many Turks to obscure the sun for us!"
    1. Akvadra
      Akvadra 28 May 2014 14: 46
      +5
      And here is the great Suvorov: "One Russian soldier will not take the janissary. Two will stand against three. And three Russians and a dozen Turks are not afraid!"
  10. volot-voin
    volot-voin 28 May 2014 14: 37
    +3
    No one doubts that a hundred professionals are worth 1000 or more amateurs, something like trained. Of course, professional parts are needed and even necessary. But do not forget about the people's militia. At a certain stage, it is necessary as air. And in order for the militia to be worth anything, a call is needed, at least honestly to serve in the Armed Forces.
    For example, now in Novorossia there is a sharp shortage of reservists, as post-Soviet Ukraine did not pay due attention to service in the armed forces.
    And during the service, the soldier should not build a summer house for the general, but undergo real military training. Only then will there be any sense.
    1. mab3162
      mab3162 28 May 2014 19: 51
      +2
      It’s not enough years, it’s necessary two at least, otherwise it will remain of limited usefulness and will remain, and in case of mobilization it will go about kitchen outfits.
  11. max422
    max422 28 May 2014 14: 41
    0
    UAV shot down in the sky over Donetsk

    According to the authorities of the self-proclaimed Donetsk People’s Republic, the UAV was shot down by the militia of the DPR.
    1. Roman 1977
      Roman 1977 28 May 2014 15: 45
      0
      Well, for example, the militias can overwhelm him: whatever, they have anti-aircraft weapons ...

      Here is the address of the authorized headquarters of the Army of the South-East, Vladimir Gromov, dated May 8. In this video message, for the first time, the Igla portable anti-aircraft missile systems at the disposal of the Donbass militias (one launcher was demonstrated).

  12. maxim1
    maxim1 28 May 2014 14: 42
    +3
    Glory to our Suvorov - Igor Ivanovich Strelkov!
  13. Same lech
    Same lech 28 May 2014 14: 43
    +1
    The Russians suffered unimaginably high losses, but the same can be said of German fighter aircraft. A total of three fighter squadrons - JG51, JG52 and JG54 - which spent most of their lives on the Eastern Front, lost about a thousand pilots who died and went missing. To this we must add the same number of dead and missing from other units that operated on the Eastern Front at various intervals, such as JG3, JG5, JG27, JG53 and JG77.
    And in conclusion, another important detail: like their comrades in the West, German fighter pilots in the East did everything in their power to the very end.
    Werner Girbig

    from the book of the German pilot HELMUT LIPFELT.
  14. Palladium900
    Palladium900 28 May 2014 14: 46
    +6
    A small army say ?. laughing
    1. Mama_Cholli
      Mama_Cholli 28 May 2014 17: 38
      0
      Nishtyak ... log
  15. Leader
    Leader 28 May 2014 14: 47
    +10
    Every Russian man must serve military service.
    The effectiveness of the mercenary army is greatly exaggerated; on a contract army, you can only "cut" the state budget.
    1. Orik
      Orik 28 May 2014 14: 51
      +7
      Quote: Leader
      Every Russian man must serve military service.
      The effectiveness of the mercenary army is greatly exaggerated; on a contract army, you can only "cut" the state budget.

      I would like to add to this, it is necessary that the family and the state bring up a real MAN from a boy by the age of 18!
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    3. creak
      creak 28 May 2014 15: 17
      +6
      Quote: Leader

      Every Russian man must serve military service.


      Does this also apply to the sons of our leaders? So far, they serve in senior positions in banks and in large companies (young, but extremely capable) and for some reason no one even thought to send them to the recruiting station for some reason - and they are like Russians and men ... Or maybe they care must be taken as heirs of glorious surnames and successors of the clan ...
      1. Mama_Cholli
        Mama_Cholli 28 May 2014 17: 41
        +1
        In which case, they’ll be damn to the front with standard bearers
  16. max422
    max422 28 May 2014 14: 50
    +3
    Military Busy near Slavyansk
  17. zavesa01
    zavesa01 28 May 2014 14: 55
    +2
    Quote: Alexandr 2
    “There are not so many Turks to block the sun for us!”

    Suvorov, in addition to tactics and strategies about the war with the Turks, skillfully applied the knowledge of the CULTURE of the enemy country.
    Before the battle, his soldiers smeared bayonets and sabers with lard. Accordingly, the road to paradise was killed by such weapons. This once again proves that the enemy needs to be studied from all sides and to use his weaknesses for his own benefit. What Suvorov brilliantly and implemented.
  18. sergei 1407
    sergei 1407 28 May 2014 15: 12
    +2
    As for Suvorov A.V. the author is fundamentally wrong about the last campaign.
    1. mamont5
      mamont5 28 May 2014 15: 52
      +2
      Quote: sergei 1407
      As for Suvorov A.V. the author is fundamentally wrong about the last campaign.


      What is wrong? He did not go into details, but in general, he said everything correctly.
      That's about the catering of Suvorov on the campaign, he heard for the first time.
      By the way, even before World War I, French soldiers each cooked his own food on a fire, in a separate pot. Our military attaché, Count Ignatiev (author of "1 years in the ranks") saw this and sent the French a sample of our field kitchen for them to copy.
      1. Lvovich
        Lvovich 28 May 2014 19: 59
        0
        + I confirm. And Remarque wrote that the German soldiers were cooking for themselves.
    2. Mama_Cholli
      Mama_Cholli 28 May 2014 17: 46
      +2
      It is believed that A. Suvorov did not lose a single battle and did not win a single war, and M. Kutuzov but he won the war, but grateful Russia loves them equally, like their children. wink .
      Ushakov, too, in all the battles of all spit on the mainsail / mast ... wassat
  19. mackonya
    mackonya 28 May 2014 15: 15
    +1
    Here, one must also take into account the duration of the confrontation, for example, the Israeli Armed Forces quite successfully use their doctrine, where the high professionalism of a small number, combined with the speed of operations, brings results.
  20. edeligor
    edeligor 28 May 2014 15: 21
    +3
    The oldest and most fierce argument of strategists of pickers. Which is better, small but highly professional, or large, but lost in quality. My opinion is that the army should be equipped with a mixed type, approximately the same as ours today. First, the rapid response forces are 100% staffed by professionals. Second, military units are equipped with a mixed type for manning a mobilization reserve in case of a big disaster.
    1. rkkasa xnumx
      rkkasa xnumx 28 May 2014 16: 20
      0
      Quote: edeligor
      My opinion is that the army should be equipped with a mixed type, approximately the same as ours today. First thing quick response forces 100% staffed by professionals. Second, military units are equipped with a mixed type for manning a mobilization reserve in case of a big disaster.


      I have just a regular conscription service behind me, and I am far from an expert in this topic, so I can be mistaken, but it seems to me that the quick reaction forces can be equipped with a mixed type, because :
      - relatively simple equipment is used there (small arms, BMD, self-propelled guns);
      - what a sin to conceal, the infantry (whatever you call it - the Airborne Forces or the SBR) is a consumable, there are large losses. Accordingly, the stocks of this "consumable material" should be considerable, one cannot do with the pros.

      But the Air Force, Navy, Strategic Rocket Forces - they need to be almost 100% equipped with professional contractors.
    2. andj61
      andj61 28 May 2014 16: 40
      +3
      This is what the gray-haired lieutenant colonel said at a training camp in the 80s to us, young lieutenants-partisans: "The peacetime army is for people like you to mobilize. For this we will die. And you will have to win."
  21. dmb
    dmb 28 May 2014 15: 21
    +4
    In general, Tolyasik speaks common truths that people who really support the army and the country have not tired of repeating for 25 years. But everything is done ridiculously the other way around. Instead of a powerful army with a trained reserve, periodically called up for training, we have "military scientific companies", pink tanks and a Papuan (office) uniform. With all of this, we're going to defend 1/6 of the land.
  22. Sanglier
    Sanglier 28 May 2014 15: 23
    +1
    And again the rumor about the militia of the DPR hurts. When will they understand that it is time to create an ARMY?
  23. Platov
    Platov 28 May 2014 15: 24
    +1
    The army should be mixed and the best conscripts who want to connect their lives with the army should go to the contract soldiers.
    1. mab3162
      mab3162 28 May 2014 20: 01
      0
      This is true, but not all - a military soldier needs a slightly different training than a conscript, therefore, after the end of the fixed-term service, a new contractor should be sent for additional studies.
  24. mamont5
    mamont5 28 May 2014 15: 47
    0
    "If you are trying to act against a really serious force, then this force will be able to intercept your radio signals with the help of which you aim your drones (this happened, as far as I know, a couple of years ago in Iran), and create your own drones capable of fighting yours and destroy them. "

    They reported that a drone was shot down over Donetsk.
    “The militias shot down a drone in the sky over Donetsk, the authorities of the self-proclaimed Donetsk People's Republic said on their Twitter microblog on Wednesday.

    "The media reported about the shooting in the area of ​​the SBU, in the center of Donetsk. The shooting was carried out by the militia at the drone. The drone was shot down," the message says.
    http://warfiles.ru/show-58482-bespilotnik-sbit-v-nebe-nad-doneckom.html
  25. Vladimir1960
    Vladimir1960 28 May 2014 15: 48
    +2
    Half of the storerooms today have not served in the army, but everyone comes with military IDs. I know what I'm talking about. And which one is mob. reserve?
    1. Mama_Cholli
      Mama_Cholli 28 May 2014 17: 49
      0
      obviously meaty ...
  26. kartalovkolya
    kartalovkolya 28 May 2014 15: 55
    +2
    You shouldn't be talking about the DPR militias, because for the most part there are people with combat experience, which is very clearly seen in the "successes" of the Kiev punishers. And the ratio of forces there is not 1 to 1 + aviation and artillery, but it is one thing to destroy unarmed people from afar, it is another thing to fight with real professionals! Never mind, as soon as Novorossiya has a normal weapon (and I have no doubt about it) they will "land" all the punitive aircraft!
  27. 11111mail.ru
    11111mail.ru 28 May 2014 16: 43
    +4
    At a school (Soviet still), a history teacher said that Suvorov’s miraculous heroes on a campaign relied on a daily ration of meat in TWO pounds! Therefore, they could have completed 90 km at the Battle of Trebbia (Italian Campaign). march in the heat, on the move to join the battle and roll the French into a thin pancake.
  28. Indifferent
    Indifferent 28 May 2014 17: 54
    +2
    All right! There is no point in arguing with Anatoly. I completely agree!
    There are even small examples. Special forces operate efficiently until discovered. As soon as a huge number of soldiers are leaning on him, albeit poorly trained, they will shoot everyone! How not to teach you, in open battle it will not help. Here the quantity is always higher than quality. Yes, there may be more ordinary soldiers and more (although this is not a fact), but the special forces will simply be riddled with.
  29. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 28 May 2014 18: 33
    +1
    "Fashionable nowadays deserted military equipment - like unmanned aerial vehicles -
    also works only against the obviously weakest enemy. If you try to act
    against a really serious force, then this force will be able to intercept your radio signals "///

    Serious strength means having high technology (for example, to intercept
    radio signals), and that means - professionals who own sophisticated equipment.
    Those. the whole thing again comes down to professionalism, not fighting spirit.
    Feed even as a fighter with a high spirit, but an EW officer and engineers will bring down the drone,
    creating electronic warfare and missiles, and not this fighter to automatic. If there are no professionals,
    the drone will fly unhindered and mow the warriors like helpless chickens. And no
    a mighty spirit will not help them.
    1. basmach
      basmach 28 May 2014 20: 29
      +2
      I would like to remind you that Israel is not yet going to switch to a contract army, but serve there as if by conscription, and even not only men, but also women, and it seems that they are not going to give up the infantry. Israel for a contract army and only memories of the "promised land" will remain in the world. And no drones will help.
      1. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 29 May 2014 00: 32
        +3
        They are not going to switch to contract, but the structure of the army is changing greatly
        recent times. They are gaining more and more of those. Electrical specialists
        computer scientists. They begin to serve in military service, but in a year
        they are not actually being transferred to a contract and officers are being trained from them. And without them
        already nowhere. An accurate weapon requires a lot of specialists to maintain, but gives
        phenomenal savings and effect in the long run. Instead of many days
        combined-arms operations - a pair of precision air raids that immediately undermine
        all enemy offensive energy.
  30. valentina-makanalina
    valentina-makanalina 28 May 2014 19: 15
    +3
    Wasserman is in many ways right. For this, he is a plus.
    But with mobrezervy we (how to put it mildly) will be thin. In Soviet times, the so-called "partisans" were trained. Good or bad, but they were. But not now. Why?
  31. mab3162
    mab3162 28 May 2014 19: 58
    0
    Probably, Serdyukov had another "super task" if the GDP still tolerates him (and the Hero of Russia, and amnesty, and not a single charge on the collapse of the Armed Forces, Shoigu silently cancels Serdyukov's decisions and that's it). I suppose that we could talk about the elimination of mutual responsibility and corruption chains among the officers, which developed during the Chechen wars. Or VVP values ​​the relationship with Medvedev so much ...
  32. Nikurov
    Nikurov 28 May 2014 20: 02
    +2
    Addition to a good article by A. Wasserman. In the Caucasus they say (a free presentation of the essence): in a battle with equal strength and chance, the winner is the one who is less afraid of death than the enemy. Absolute military truth.
  33. basmach
    basmach 28 May 2014 20: 20
    0
    I will give only one quote, Machiavely "Sovereign" - "Mercenary and allied troops are useless and dangerous; the power that relies on the mercenary army will never be either strong or durable, for mercenaries are ambitious, licentious, prone to strife, bully with friends and cowardly with the enemy, treacherous and ungodly; their defeat is delayed only as long as the decisive attack is delayed; in peacetime, they will ruin you no worse than in a war enemy. them in battle, but only a meager salary, which, of course, is not enough to make them want to sacrifice their lives for you. They really like to serve you in peacetime, but once a war starts, they show the rear and run. For mercenaries are famous the fact that they are slowly and sluggishly advancing, but retreating with remarkable speed. "
    In the current concept of "professional" - this is the same mercenary of the 15th century.
    However, such an army makes it easier to control the situation in the country and suppress the discontent of the population with its government (as opposed to the conscription army), we now see an example in Ukraine.
    Now think, as the Romans said, who benefits from this?
  34. tokens2
    tokens2 28 May 2014 23: 20
    -1
    Interesting article.
    God is on the side of the large battalions. " The army should be a nationwide affair

    For every large battalion there is a large rocket ... Rather, there is a process of decentralization. Of course, it is easier for drones to shoot battalions ...
    Our main large battalion is territory.
    And a well-fed armed peasant with the latest weapons, knowing his area.
    As Wasserman said about Suvorov ... they say that he made a brilliant invention, he brought it on time laughing And the peasant always has his cabbage soup on the table.
    And if the enemy knows that a "warm" is waiting for him throughout Russia
    welcome ... no logistics are enough for his big battalions.

    But this question is more likely to ideology and domestic politics. Arakcheevschina will not work. The village should be advanced in technical terms.
    Is there a Maxim machine gun in Russia? laughing
    Well, then you understand ... with the new Russian "villages" you can install a no-fly zone all over the world at least laughing
  35. VD chauvinist
    VD chauvinist 28 May 2014 23: 32
    0
    I basically agree. But let me remind you of the deeply respected A. Wasserman about such a thing that did Suvorov Suvorov, Caesar Caesar, Napoleon Napoleon. I am about talent, and about genius. There are many literate, trained commanders, and only a few are remembered.
    An unexpected move, and the use of standard means in a non-standard way, multiplied by stamina and courage, sometimes gave stunning results. Maneuver of 6 Caesar's cohorts at Farsal, Brusilov breakthrough, "artillery - forward!" Bonaparte, the ambush regiment of Bobrok, Levktra - "poker" Epaminondas - this is the true brilliance of the military leader's genius.
    And, of course, this is only feasible if there are professionals in the battle formations.
    I see it like this: prof. army - the core of the armed forces, conscripts - only combat training, mobile reserve of the 1st stage - those who have served, periodically visiting arm. fees; mob. the reserve of the 2nd stage - all other persons liable for military service. With such a structure, the army is able to "build muscle" quickly enough. IMHO.
  36. siberalt
    siberalt 29 May 2014 01: 03
    0
    Reasoning on selected coordinates. Not bad at all. SW Anatoly Wasserman! What you did not express or did not want to express is your business. But the promise is accepted. Is there a historical analogy of the Suvorov victories with what is happening in Ukraine? Did Suvorov cruelly suppress, pouring rivers of blood into the rebellious South of Russia (ordinary peasants against enslavement), as the Kiev junta does with the rebellious Donbass? We look forward to continuing and good luck!