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Defeat under Volnovakha

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Representatives of the people's self-defense of Donetsk report on the ongoing special operation of the Ukrainian law enforcement agencies in the DPR. Today, in the reports, the settlement of Volnovakha sounds more often than others. The Speaker of the Rada Turchinov announced 13 killed by the Ukrainian security forces in the area of ​​this 25-thousandth town in the Donetsk region. Reports about it ITAR-TASS.


Defeat under Volnovakha




Representatives of the Donetsk People's Republic declare 20 killed and more than 40 injured.

On Thursday, the 22 of May, a column of the 51 of a separate motorized brigade of Ukraine, was attacked under Volnovakha and completely destroyed.

Message Ministry of Defense of Ukraine:

Near the town of Volnovakha, ambush terrorists opened massive fire from rifle weapons, hand-held anti-tank grenade launchers and mortars at the roadblock, where servicemen of one of the units of the Ukrainian Armed Forces served. During the shelling, one of the charges hit the combat vehicle, which was at the checkpoint, which caused an explosion of ammunition. There are dead and wounded.


Igor Strelkov's comment on the events in Volnovakha:

I know who worked. I do not consider it a great victory to unexpectedly shoot people who absolutely did not want to fight. But I do not consider them innocent victims either, because sooner or later they would be forced to fight anyway. Cowardice never saved anyone from death. Rather the opposite. These people were too cowardly and passively submissive to somehow evade mobilization. Then they were too cowardly to start a real war. To go to the side of the population, or at least surrender, in order not to fight against the population, they are also cowards (families, etc. "excuses"). As a result, they adopted an "ostrich pose" headlong in the sand, relying on some "separate contractual relations." But there came people who did not know (and did not want to know) about any such “arrangements” and this head seemed to be “cut off”. The wounded were not finished off - sorry.

From the purely military point of view, I do not think that the event will somehow change the balance of power. The defeat of the bloc will have at the same time a demoralizing and mobilizing effect on the enemy. In the next blocks they will prepare for the “meeting”, but the desire to fight for real is unlikely to increase. Maybe, nevertheless, someone will overcome the total stupidity and cowardice in himself and finally decide at least to desert.


A few hours before the event:

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  1. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 22 May 2014 19: 27
    +54
    They promised and did .. They warned the junta! There is no particular joy, but if you do not understand what to do?
    1. jjj
      jjj 22 May 2014 19: 31
      +71
      I heard a comment that the attackers arrived in cars with the symbols of the Kolomoisky Bank. Now the Ukrainian army will start firing at these vehicles without hesitation.
      In general, the Ukrainian ability to put combat vehicles right next to each other is striking. It's like the Brothers Grimm - with one blow of seven
      1. asar
        asar 22 May 2014 19: 34
        +27
        "Kotlomoisky" certainly went too far! And soon it will end!
        1. Sid.74
          Sid.74 22 May 2014 19: 40
          +63
          All this canoe in order to provoke the use of MLRS in Slavyansk! This was already known from last night! On any night in a sleeping city like Tskhinval !!!! Ahh kapets !!! How do I hate these American ubly ... x fascists!
          1. Sid.74
            Sid.74 23 May 2014 00: 17
            +6
            I would like to remind you! They and only they .... Fashington !!!
            To view with the right mouse button and open the image!
            1. elmi
              elmi 23 May 2014 00: 57
              +10
              The guys who died on both sides feel sorry for all civilians who died in Ukraine, because I consider them (if it were not for the collapse of the USSR) to be citizens of one country. The West was able to fulfill Hitler’s plans to embroil fraternal countries, drive a wedge, and dumb the brains of young people and residents of part of Ukraine. this massacre is not happening in Russia, I still think that there is a civil war affecting us, in fact, in Russia. To prevent this from happening in the future, we need to recreate an empire similar to tsarist Russia or the USSR. In each new victim that happened in the countries of the former USSR Gorbachev and Yeltsin are indirectly guilty of allowing the collapse of the USSR for I repeat the USSR did not fall apart. These Ukrainian lads would live, work, raise children and strengthen one homeland-the USSR!
        2. TEODOR
          TEODOR 22 May 2014 19: 43
          +45
          In vain, conscripts were shot, the guys were drafted into the army, no one asked them if they wanted to fight. According to the news, the block post took a neutral position, there was no point in their destruction, it was meaningless victims. Sincerely sorry for the guys. We need to wet the Natsik and their owners. But there is nothing to be proud of.
          1. PM74
            PM74 22 May 2014 19: 59
            +40
            Strange expression: army block post-neutral position
            1. vorchyn_ymka
              vorchyn_ymka 22 May 2014 20: 10
              +29
              people still do not understand what to hide and sit out will not work .. either for those or for these .. there will be no third .. they are like between a rock and a hard place .. that's just the question .. where it will be more painful .. well and in combat training .. anarchy is the mother of order .. all Ukrainians have it in the blood in the process .. well, I'm afraid .. well, I don’t want to fight .. but prepare the position .. the flight will arrive not childishly .. they still shoot ... what happened .. sorry for the people .. maybe on their example others will learn ..
              1. SSR
                SSR 22 May 2014 23: 27
                +9
                Quote: vorchyn_ymka
                people still do not understand what to hide and sit out does not work ...

                To my .... Absolutely right, you noticed. The individualism that has been introduced into people's consciousness proves once again its inconsistency, because a close-knit collective of any nickname will break it. But those who believe that their hut will be hidden often become meat, which they want to use as vegetables — they knit their hands, fingers over their nostrils. the head is lifted up and cut. Few people can get out.
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              2. brisk
                brisk 23 May 2014 00: 29
                +1
                Well, why isn't the third given? Have you seen the movie "Bumbarash"?
            2. Predator
              Predator 22 May 2014 20: 35
              +16
              It reminds Chechnya, a negotiated village, mother of yours, how many of them died! You don’t want to fight with the people-desert! And you’ll always get under the hand.
            3. Cubit
              Cubit 22 May 2014 21: 59
              +4
              There’s a lot of strange
            4. ArhipenkoAndrey
              ArhipenkoAndrey 23 May 2014 07: 57
              0
              Don’t judge, let’s not judge, the snotty boys have a mess in their heads, it’s a pity for the stupidly dead.
          2. Akvadra
            Akvadra 22 May 2014 20: 18
            +38
            Is this a checkpoint? In my opinion this is a picnic on the side of the road or a parking of sack smugglers. Did they have a commander? And where was he taught? Amazing carelessness !!! Intelligence came to visit them, and they crack biscuits. Whoever interrupted them is their own fault. With such weapons, you can hold on for a day, and they are strangled like kittens. Well, and warriors!
            1. Aleksey11
              Aleksey11 22 May 2014 20: 46
              +30
              To the commander by info. It was 27 years old (((, and no experience. And we must take into account that the military do not understand at all with whom and why they are fighting. This is just "cannon fodder."
              This is a tragedy and these Clowns from Kiev should answer for it.
              1. s1н7т
                s1н7т 22 May 2014 21: 47
                +6
                Quote: Aleksey11
                Infa Commander. 27 years old was (((

                So age has nothing to do with it. I will not remind Gaidar, who at the age of 16 commanded a regiment, they say. With me, in the SA, the commanders in 22-25 gave out such a thing, which is nice and expensive! Moreover - from Rivne and Kiev, in the sense. Either they’re taught wrong now, or the guys have no motivation. I hope the second.
                1. papik09
                  papik09 23 May 2014 02: 57
                  -3
                  Quote: c1n7
                  Gaidar, who at the age of 16 commanded a regiment, they say.

                  Let me clarify one point, yes, he commanded a regiment, BUT WHAT ?! PUNISHING !!!!!
                  1. papik09
                    papik09 27 May 2014 07: 17
                    0
                    I’m just wondering, and who was the one who made me the worst? Dunno. Arkady Petrovich Gaidar (Golikov) at the beginning of the 20s of the 20th century commanded the 58th separate regiment for the fight against banditry, that is - PUNISHMENT. Who minus, let him study history, or, in extreme cases, read Wikipedia. hi
                    1. Cynic
                      Cynic 27 May 2014 13: 35
                      0
                      Quote: papik09
                      who has me minus?

                      Including hi
                      If anything, then after your second post.
              2. vedross
                vedross 22 May 2014 21: 54
                +6
                The answer should be those who shot them. If these are fighters of the DPR, it’s worthless, this checkpoint did not pose any threat and not Bandera were on it.
                1. andj61
                  andj61 22 May 2014 22: 06
                  +22
                  Infa has already passed that they were the soldiers of Kolomoisky, on the armored cars of Privatbank. After they worked off with grenade launchers, as one of the survivors said, they pointedly put on George ribbons, said that they were protecting the Donbass and began to shoot where they hit - both at people and around, but they did not finish off everyone, gathered and left. Further, helicopter gunships of Ukraine hit the same point, which also affected these soldiers (yes, what partisan soldiers at the training camp!). In short - another provocation with the shooting of their own. One of the surviving officers did not allow his face to be removed, and said that these attackers were not local, came from Dnepropetrovsk
                  1. Anper
                    Anper 23 May 2014 00: 48
                    +5
                    Quote: andj61
                    another provocation with the shooting of his

                    All junta provocations - at the end of the week, usually on Fridays - dispersal of the onslaught, stuffing of the face of Chornovol, Dima Ukho, etc. For that. in order to have time to unwind, God forgive me, dolbostuk on the weekend. Today is Thursday, we need to untwist the horror about the DPR until sunday elections, so the provocation is a little earlier. And you can immediately see whose ears stick out from behind the curtains, like on holidays in Odessa and Mariupol. I hate !!!
                  2. Koresh
                    Koresh 23 May 2014 01: 28
                    +6
                    It’s a pity for the guys ... my countrymen, after all, from Volyn ... 9 guys from Vladimir-Volynsky. Well, why shoot them, they were sitting in the third ring of the cordon, all the more they refused to lay them on the people.
                    1. Hammer
                      Hammer 23 May 2014 03: 36
                      +5
                      Quote: Koresh
                      It’s a pity for the guys ... my countrymen, after all, from Volyn ... 9 guys from Vladimir-Volynsky. Well, why shoot them, they were sitting in the third ring of the cordon, all the more they refused to lay them on the people.


                      Klomoisky address these questions and all sorts of maydauns from Kiev - why the hell did they shoot their own army men ?!
                    2. Cormorants
                      Cormorants 23 May 2014 05: 11
                      +1
                      It’s still not clear what Strelkov said, he doesn’t know who did this, maybe a provocation from the side of the right-wingers!
                  3. Zlyden.Zlo
                    Zlyden.Zlo 23 May 2014 01: 51
                    0
                    WHERE is the information about helicopters.?
                    1. Mikado
                      Mikado 24 May 2014 10: 28
                      0
                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGcwrApxHos
              3. SSR
                SSR 22 May 2014 23: 33
                +5
                Quote: Aleksey11
                To the commander by info. It was 27 years old (((, and no experience. And we must take into account that the military do not understand at all with whom and why they are fighting. This is just "cannon fodder."
                This is a tragedy and these Clowns from Kiev should answer for it.

                + This is a tragedy. Those who impersonate power must answer. Imha. The army should not rebel for Russia, not for ubrointegration, but for the PEOPLE! That would decide without blood how he wants and how the country will live, **********
              4. philip
                philip 23 May 2014 00: 17
                +3
                This is a tragedy and these Clowns from Kiev should answer for it.
                The tragedy is Odessa, and this is war.
              5. ssskalinin
                ssskalinin 23 May 2014 00: 23
                0
                The question is, who really cleaned up the tourists?
              6. sokrat7
                sokrat7 24 May 2014 12: 39
                0
                No need to justify them. They didn’t want to fight - there was nothing to leave the points of permanent deployment. And we left - decide. We didn’t decide - we got it.
            2. Gorko
              Gorko 22 May 2014 21: 37
              .
              Is this a checkpoint? In my opinion this is a picnic on the side of the road or a parking of sack smugglers. Did they have a commander? And where was he taught? Amazing carelessness !!! Intelligence came to visit them, and they crack biscuits. Whoever interrupted them is their own fault. With such weapons, you can hold on for a day, and they are strangled like kittens. Well, and warriors!


              Who taught them, and you remember the war in Chechnya, no one taught them either. There is no army in Ukraine. It’s a pity for the guys, and the militias turned into terrorists.
              1. The point
                The point 25 May 2014 05: 36
                0
                Quote: GORKO
                It’s a pity for the guys, and the militias turned into terrorists.

                Tell us about pity for the inhabitants of Odessa, Mariupol.
            3. Suhow
              Suhow 22 May 2014 21: 48
              +2
              I agree with some remarks. All the same, they are involved in the ATO. You want peace, get ready for war, they said earlier.
            4. Cubit
              Cubit 22 May 2014 22: 08
              +4
              Commander in my opinion. Maybe I'm mistaken, but by the faces it is clear that they didn’t come to fight, hence the carelessness. They killed them in vain. Would take away the trunks, kick in the ass and at home. But, commander - for sure.
          3. DMB87
            DMB87 22 May 2014 20: 19
            +17
            Boris Rozhin:
            The soldiers were ordered to crush the resistance. They refused to shoot people, and in the end they were punished, says a source at the headquarters of the self-defense command. According to the interlocutor, this was a punitive operation ordered by the oligarch Igor Kolomoisky, owner of Privatbank, known for funding protests on the Maidan and paying remuneration to the Right Sector fighters. The Ukrainian military tried to provide resistance to the attackers, but those were supported by armored vehicles and military helicopters. One of the shells fired by the BMP during the shootout ended up in the ammunition depot. The blast injured at least 35 people and killed 15 soldiers.
            http://www.iarex.ru/articles/48031.html
          4. Amet Khan Sultan
            Amet Khan Sultan 22 May 2014 20: 39
            +11
            They are what Switzerland, they saw the neutrality of those. Now it can’t be, either you are with or against Natsik. They didn’t want to shoot people, they would surrender to the militia of the DPR. And then eat the fish and x .. sit down and do not choke on the bones. So we got bones for the most do not indulge.
          5. TRex
            TRex 22 May 2014 21: 20
            +5
            How - "there is nothing to be proud of"? and what would happen tomorrow if the scales swung in the other direction? Where would these warriors go with their armored personnel carriers? EVERYTHING IS FINE. IN WAR - AS IN WAR.
            Please answer - somewhere other than Ukraine, have you heard - "to her - to knives" or "yak - to gilyak" ??? Get everyone wet.
            1. Ross
              Ross 22 May 2014 23: 36
              +1
              How - "there is nothing to be proud of"? and what would happen tomorrow if the scales swung in the other direction? Where would these warriors go with their armored personnel carriers? EVERYTHING IS FINE. IN WAR - LIKE IN WAR.
              Please answer - somewhere other than Ukraine, have you heard - "to her - to knives" or "yak - to gilyak" ??? Get everyone wet.

              Unexpected clarifications from Strelkova:
              An important comment by Igor Ivanovich Strelkov on the destruction of the National Guard post in the n. Volnovaha

              summer56
              May 22nd, 21: 26

              In a previous post, Igor Ivanovich gave a fairly detailed commentary on
              the destruction of the checkpoint in the village Volnovakha.

              http://summer56.livejournal.com/119139.html

              The people had several questions, I would even say doubts.
              Based on the information of Igor Ivanovich, it turns out that the DPR militias took advantage of military cunning and ingenuity! Using an armored car with the symbols of Privatbank, namely such armored cars are used by Kolomoisky’s militants, DNR militias were able to actually enter the National Guard post and use heavy fire from a minimum distance to destroy enemy forces.

              First question. And where did the people's militia forces get this Privatbank armored car?
              Answer by Igor Ivanovich:

              "From Gorlovka."

              Let me remind you that Igor Gorlovka has a strong garrison in Gorlovka, led by Lieutenant Colonel Sergei Anatolyevich Zdrilyuk.

              And then the second question arises. If the block post is destroyed by the DNR militia forces, then why
              after its destruction it was "ironed" by attack helicopters? Does the DPR have helicopters?
              DNR still has no attack helicopters. These were Ukrainian helicopters!

              Why did they "iron" the positions of their own checkpoint?

              Guys! It's elementary! A very significant percentage of losses in the war from the so-called. "friendly fire"!
              "Friendly fire" is when, due to a lack of coordination of actions of various units, lack of communication, etc., etc. one unit inflicts fire on another unit of its own forces!
              This is especially common in art. air strikes and strikes.

              The second point in this particular case. The leaders of the ATO are very afraid that the militia will get more armored vehicles. Everyone knows how Igor Ivanovich skillfully uses the entire 6 BMD captured by him in the city of Slavyansk. Therefore, perhaps the purpose of this airstrike was to disable the armored vehicles of the checkpoint so that it would not get to the militias. The MI-24 helicopter damaged by the militia (actually shot down) would also have been destroyed. Only in that case, the riflemen managed to remove all the necessary weapons and their controls. In more detail about that case:

              http://summer56.livejournal.com/97102.html

              That was my comment. And now read the commentary by Igor Ivanovchia:

              "What's surprising then? We arrived late and struck where (as they thought) the enemy was still located. And there were only their unfinished ones ... And the Privatbank armored car, knocked out during the battle and thrown by the attackers. Possibly losses as a result, ours have a lot added. But here I cannot say. "

              So I urge you to include brains in the analysis of information. And do not rush to publish your smart thoughts,
              not knowing the actual information from the field.
              http://summer56.livejournal.com/2014/05/22/
          6. Gorko
            Gorko 22 May 2014 21: 33
            .
            In vain, conscripts were shot, the guys were drafted into the army, no one asked them if they wanted to fight. According to the news, the block post took a neutral position, there was no point in their destruction, it was meaningless victims. Sincerely sorry for the guys. We need to wet the Natsik and their owners. But there is nothing to be proud of.


            I agree ... Militias are turning into terrorists.
            1. PM74
              PM74 22 May 2014 22: 07
              +22
              It’s not true. This is not terror. This is a transition to guerrilla actions. Terror is when the metro is blown up, houses, planes, schools, cinemas are captured. The rivals are killed (usually unarmed). they can fight back. Donbass has few trained soldiers. Now they will find and hit the weakest points of the Ukrainian army. This is the basis of guerrilla warfare. As experience develops, believe me, with the necessary support, attacks on more trained units will become more frequent.
              1. alone
                alone 22 May 2014 23: 12
                -3
                Quote: PM74
                A terror is when subways are blown up, houses, planes, schools, cinemas seize.

                Pavel, maybe Chechen fighters who ambush Russian military convoys and roadblocks are also partisans? Your comment goes like this: it’s because the anti-terrorist operation was also announced in Chechnya, and it worked the same way for your security forces.
                1. lukke
                  lukke 22 May 2014 23: 31
                  +10
                  Pavel, maybe Chechen fighters who ambush Russian military convoys and checkpoints are also partisans?
                  But what about the Chechen fighters already in Chechnya mass support of the people? Is Chechnya opposed to its presence as a subject within the Russian Federation? Held a referendum and ready to secede? why didn’t I understand the comparison
                  1. Gorko
                    Gorko 23 May 2014 12: 18
                    +1
                    But what about the Chechen fighters already in Chechnya mass support of the people? Is Chechnya opposed to its presence as a subject within the Russian Federation? Held a referendum and ready to secede? why didn’t I understand the comparison

                    remember the story of 20 years ago.
                  2. alone
                    alone 23 May 2014 19: 49
                    +3
                    Quote: lukke
                    But what about the Chechen fighters already in Chechnya mass support of the people?

                    Just the same, the first phase of the Chechen company was held in the same way. The local referendum (contrary to the Constitution of the Russian Federation, the organization of illegal armed groups, the seizure of military units, the total armament of the local population, war, ambush, terrorist attacks). And the people who led these actions had the absolute support of the local population .Without the support of the local population, such actions end with the second phase of the Chechen campaign.
                    P.S. Did everyone forget so quickly? After all, only 20 years have passed with a little. what
                    1. Gorko
                      Gorko 24 May 2014 14: 56
                      0
                      P.S. Did everyone forget so quickly? After all, only 20 years have passed with a little.

                      The local pseudo-patriots have such a short memory that they forget what happened yesterday, they in all seriousness consider Kadyrov both younger and older to be the hero, and they don’t remember that they killed the Russians; honestly, their memory is short, "goldfish syndrome."
                2. The comment was deleted.
                3. PM74
                  PM74 23 May 2014 00: 32
                  +4
                  Once again, I’ll answer, even if I pick up the minuses. Yes, it was a guerrilla war (with many exceptions, Beslan, Kizlyar, Volgograd, Moscow, etc., there were many, these are classical terrorist attacks) Yes, they (the militants) were supported by the local population (Without this, there can be no guerrilla war. There are many truths in the world — they had it, we had it. There was cruelty on both sides. But here’s what Russia, it managed to agree with some of them (I don’t want to explain why they they went for it). We tried to forget everything that was before that. In short, very combat-ready detachments came to our side. Basically, which, with our help, won the war. It was very scary, it was very cruel. And now there restlessly, but civilians, at least, are dying much less. Moreover, Chechnya is trying to restore production, attracting specialists (not only Russians).
                  1. PM74
                    PM74 23 May 2014 00: 43
                    0
                    I wanted to say, specialists are specialists in industrial production. Not military
                4. smile
                  smile 23 May 2014 01: 58
                  +6
                  alone
                  1. Worked not exactly the same.
                  2. Chechen "partisans" by the time our troops arrived there, destroyed at least about 60 thousand Russian-speaking ... Even according to the archival data of the Dudayev Ministry of Internal Affairs for the period from January 94 to December 94, 23 thousand murders were recorded ... and I suppose you know how murders can be recorded ... so that they do not look like murders ... but even so - in less than a year - 23 thousand men, children and women ... what did they do with the rest - don't even say I want to ... but you know about this ... does it mean anything to you? So, in Ukraine - the same thing - analogues of the Chechen religious fascists - Ukrainian neo-Nazis, came to power by force ... and they kill dissent in the same way. only not as intensely as Nokhchi ..... the degree of legitimacy of the leadership of free Ichkeria does not differ from the degree of legitimacy of the current Ukrainian junta ..... and they kill in the same way, it's just that self-styled people are less often - not used to it .... real anti-terrorists are those who resist them ....
                  Sorry, but you can’t be so hypocritical ... too much ...
                  1. PM74
                    PM74 23 May 2014 02: 18
                    0
                    Dear smile, about what you say is not terror, it is genocide, in its purest form. Nobody, unfortunately, recognizes this. And our authorities, led by Putin too. But, answer the question: Do you want them like that how to answer? Cut one half. to kick the other out? Forgive me, but they were also cut, God forbid. And it’s not yet a fact of anyone else who died. They didn’t count. But I agree with you, they, the Chechens, have not yet received, what follows.
                    1. smile
                      smile 23 May 2014 10: 54
                      +1
                      PM74
                      About the genocide of the Russian population in Chechnya it was necessary to speak in the first Chechen ... when our ... media called us federals. In the second question they chewed languidly and did not aggravate ... and our authorities, "led by Putin," did the right thing, in my opinion. Since I do not consider it possible to oskotin to such an extent as to sink to the level of the Czech comrades ... and put up with them. knowing that they were doing quite recently ... to put it mildly, difficult ... people would not understand ...
                      But this is all the lyrics, I was outraged by the comparison of bloodshot civilians on the ears of Chechens with anti-fascists in Ukraine ....
                  2. PM74
                    PM74 23 May 2014 02: 44
                    +2
                    He didn’t fully answer. It was all about Chechnya. I don’t argue about the legitimacy of the Ukrop authorities, they simply do not have words (no Hague, only the gallows)
                  3. alone
                    alone 23 May 2014 19: 44
                    +1
                    Quote: smile
                    By the time our troops arrived there, Chechen "partisans" had destroyed at least about 60 thousand Russian-speaking ... Even according to the archival data of the Dudayev Ministry of Internal Affairs for the period from January 94 to December 94, 23 thousand murders were recorded ...

                    From your words, it turns out that 60 thousand Russians were also killed in Ukraine. Vladimir, I considered you and I still consider you an adequate person. Why talk about black white? Until a shooter with his own people appeared in Donetsk, no one killed anyone! You think Gubarev and pisulin will be able to manage with such an area as Donetsk? MMM-schik and the failed Santa Claus are ready to take responsibility for 4 million people who until recently lived on mining unprofitable coal, minus the production was covered by the budget of Ukraine. , for example, in Konstantinovka, they took control of the plant, started exporting equipment to sell it all, they need money for the viability of the DNR. protection of the Russian population "!!!
                    P.S. I know, right now the minuses will fly like flies on something. On the drum. To tell the truth, it would be so bitter, it’s always nice and honors a person !! Unlike some who are so drugged with their ambitions that they are ready to put up cat - black leopard !!
                    1. Cynic
                      Cynic 23 May 2014 20: 06
                      +1
                      Quote: lonely
                      .Tell the truth, so it would not be bitter, it’s always nice and does honor to a person !!

                      Can't you praise yourself ?!
                      Quote: lonely
                      ready to make the cat black Leopard !!

                      I heard about the Pink Panther, that's about the black Leopard, alas!
                      Quote: lonely
                      Until the shooter appeared in Donetsk

                      If you walk along the chain, then Almighty himself is on the edge _ Well, why did he create Adam ...
                      1. alone
                        alone 23 May 2014 22: 09
                        -1
                        Quote: Cynic
                        Can't you praise yourself ?!


                        To tell the truth is not bragging! But distortion of facts for its own benefit is a disease. It is called insanity! unfortunately not subject to treatment!
                      2. Cynic
                        Cynic 24 May 2014 06: 42
                        +1
                        Quote: lonely
                        distortion of facts for its own benefit is a disease. called insanity!

                        Your aplomb and the depth of knowledge are amazing!
                        MARASMUS (from the Greek. marasmos — loss of strength, exhaustion), exhaustion, withering of the body.

                        request
              2. Iskander Khan
                Iskander Khan 23 May 2014 02: 11
                +3
                Urgent repost! It may have already appeared. Natsikov is extinguished by his own helicopters near Volnovakha (DPR). I think it doesn’t need a translation. The DNI has no turntables. If you know how, then repost on foreign sites.
                1. The point
                  The point 25 May 2014 05: 44
                  0
                  wanted to watch, but "the video is not available because the You Tube account associated with it has been deleted." That's it. recourse
          7. andj61
            andj61 22 May 2014 22: 09
            +1
            I saw on TV that they were not conscripts, but called up for training, one of the officers said. Although, whoever understands there ...
            1. Vesnik
              Vesnik 23 May 2014 00: 14
              +6
              Mobilized, it was possible to "jump", who did not want to, he did not go.
              Now I'm waiting for "orev" on all media channels of Ukraine
              "Snot" now "you will not get around", "will carry" a week ..
          8. Andrei Forge 67
            Andrei Forge 67 22 May 2014 22: 19
            +3
            They showed you that this is the right-winger of the Kolomoyts. What is not clear!
          9. Vorodis_vA
            Vorodis_vA 23 May 2014 00: 18
            +2
            what nafig terror, this is war. militias at home !! At home, and not at a party ... and do not attack but actively defend ...
          10. Konsmo
            Konsmo 23 May 2014 00: 32
            +4
            They came with a sword to a foreign land. Men with weapons in their hands.
            When they climb into your house, into the yard, with weapons, the argument that the kebab came to eat in your garden does not work. They will be forced and they will burn your house, explaining that they do not want, they have families and so on.
            Fascists in 41 were also from workers and peasants, they were also mobilized.
            Do not give up destroy you.
            It's just that men's games have been going on for several millennia.
            Snot here do not wipe.
          11. Iskander Khan
            Iskander Khan 23 May 2014 02: 11
            0
            Urgent repost! It may have already appeared. Natsikov is extinguished by his own helicopters near Volnovakha (DPR). I think it doesn’t need a translation. The DNI has no turntables. If you know how, then repost on foreign sites.
        3. shasherin_pavel
          shasherin_pavel 22 May 2014 21: 35
          +6
          Quote: TEODOR
          no one asked them if they wanted to fight

          When you do not want to fight, then surrender to "captivity". But when you have a machine gun in your hands, no one will play nice with you, at least because of the machine gun in your hands. First, they looked at the "Maidan" as a picture from an exhibition, then they took them "Sniff Eggs" from the Nazis. Among the Nazis in the Second World War, there were also old people who did not want to fight, but they are also to blame for the deaths of millions of people throughout Europe.
          1. Konsmo
            Konsmo 23 May 2014 00: 36
            +1
            I agree completely.
        4. Suhow
          Suhow 22 May 2014 21: 37
          0
          and they, call them cowards, if they call me, I’m from Kiev, will I shoot right-to-left, and here and there people, and deserting, surrendering, and so on, is there really a way out? And the question is not how it is taken at home and how to cope with your conscience, yourselves.! If you fight from those who were sent, then with volunteers and those who are fighting. And in this case, the attackers only set up the majority of those mobilized against themselves, I'm talking about neutral people. I’m very sorry about what happened, and the reason for the new government once again go out ...
          1. saramb
            saramb 22 May 2014 22: 00
            +4
            that’s how they were rasped, the people of the Kolomian, with the support of the turntables, and whose are they? They ordered their own egg-laying and turkish.
          2. andj61
            andj61 22 May 2014 22: 12
            +3
            The attackers were provocateurs of Kolomoisky. They needed to specially pit the army and people. Not in vain, Turchinov announced yesterday that the ATO is moving into the final phase. I needed a reason to boost the army. That's how they could, so this reason was organized!
        5. doc62
          doc62 22 May 2014 21: 38
          +5
          Nehru chew snot. took the gun be ready to die
          1. Vesnik
            Vesnik 23 May 2014 00: 19
            +1
            +1
            I agree completely!
        6. ultra
          ultra 22 May 2014 21: 53
          +2
          Quote: TEODOR
          In vain, conscripts were shot, guys were drafted into the army, no one asked them if they wanted to fight

          The guys certainly feel sorry, but war is war, or you or you, unfortunately the only way!
        7. Andrei Forge 67
          Andrei Forge 67 22 May 2014 22: 15
          +3
          Yes, Natsik killed them to incite hatred on the armored vehicles of the collector’s armored vehicles and they added bastards from helicopters !!!!
        8. xan
          xan 22 May 2014 23: 26
          +2
          Quote: TEODOR
          Sincerely sorry for the guys. We need to wet the Natsik and their owners. But there is nothing to be proud of.

          It is full of information that they were crumbled by hunter fighters for refusing to clean the town, including the local ones. And the militia has no helicopters.
        9. Vesnik
          Vesnik 23 May 2014 00: 00
          +2
          Well nafik.
          Going into the army of the SA, I perfectly understood, I can not return. Anything can happen.
          Moreover, military operations, especially a checkpoint. "Fools" were standing there, did not understand that they could shoot? And they are no longer "on their" territory?
          Everything about the case.
          1. ssskalinin
            ssskalinin 23 May 2014 00: 40
            +4
            In the course there was half a rotation of motorized rifles 4 BMP2 2 KAMAZ support. Probably the staff shishiga the field kitchen and the commander’s UAZ on TV heard about the anti-aircraft gun, the truth is not visible in the frame. The feeling is that the guys came for a picnic. The commander is just a complete sucker. Arrange combat vehicles like this? Do not set up security? To let a person with a camera into the block post? A campaign at their company military school somewhere in Zimbambwe oh graduated. 27 years is at least Captain. He flashed everything and laid down his guys. Because there is a feeling that professional people have enlisted this picnic, and it’s not for nothing that the guards were there.
            1. PM74
              PM74 23 May 2014 00: 57
              0
              Remember the beginning of Chechnya, they have an army there in the same condition. But I don’t understand how they didn’t crush the Donbass with such a quantitative and, nevertheless, qualitative (presence of heavy weapons) advantage.
        10. Hammer
          Hammer 23 May 2014 03: 31
          +5


          It’s not the militias who destroyed the post ... it’s Natsik and the mercenaries who planted a knife in the back. And then also ukrov helicopters finished off them ...
          why it’s all blown up is done for sure, but it can be assumed that it was most likely an act of intimidation for the Ukrainian army. Since in the opinion of Kiev scumbags, the soldiers are not fighting zealously enough with their own people.
          And the Strelka comment given in this article is supposedly a fake. The simple desire of the maydanut to blame the crime on the militias.
          1. Onotollah
            Onotollah 23 May 2014 06: 52
            +3
            Quote: Hammer
            why is it all blundered for sure is unclear

            Yes, everything here is clear, like God's day.
            The troops so far do not want to clean up civilians, and right-wingers do not yet know how.
            And in order to incite the army to the people, to arrange a full-fledged genocide and civil war, they carry out such operations.
            Strelkov and other self-proclaimed republics are by no means in the first place. The goal of true puppeteers is Russia, to kindle a fire on its borders, and then to throw firebrands on the territory. Ukraine will explode, Russia will detonate, since the peoples are brotherly, the language is the same.
            Therefore, they provoke as much as they can, create total chaos. For their last adyk, diligent students can rejoice, but they just finish completely
            .
          2. Drednout
            Drednout 23 May 2014 12: 12
            0
            I ukroSMI:

            http://ura.dn.ua/23.05.2014/156789.html
        11. UPStoyan
          UPStoyan 23 May 2014 08: 38
          +1
          A surname list of the wounded appeared on the Web, of 35 people, not one was born in 1994-1996, all over 20 and closer to 30, so there was no smell of conscripts there. Rather reservists.
        12. sokrat7
          sokrat7 24 May 2014 12: 36
          0
          There can be no neutral position in the area of ​​hostilities. Especially in people with weapons. Or on the side of the Natsiks, or together with the militia.
      2. raf
        raf 22 May 2014 20: 56
        +6
        Quote: asar
        "Kotlomoisky"

        Not "Kotlomoisky", but "okolopomoisky", it will be more accurate!
        1. shasherin_pavel
          shasherin_pavel 22 May 2014 21: 40
          +4
          Quote: raf
          Quote: asar
          "Kotlomoisky"

          Not "Kotlomoisky", but "okolopomoisky", it will be more accurate!

          Or "cattle, s, garbage"
      3. GRANATE-19
        GRANATE-19 22 May 2014 21: 26
        +7
        Quote: asar
        "Kotlomoisky" certainly went too far! And soon it will end!

        I support. KALAMoskin - must find his hemp!

        But why are the troops of the RUSSIAN ARMY withdrawn from the borders?
        I don’t understand, right now the Nazis are aggressively attacking more and more settlements, and the president is not responding!
        I can’t express my feelings, I know in my own skin what it is to wait for help - in the war every minute is expensive, but here the troops withdraw. I do not propose to send troops into the self-proclaimed republics, but they need help: instructors, weapons, equipment, ammunition, medicines and medical staff ...
        Dear VLADIMIR VLADIMIROVICH help the brothers!
        1. Palych9999
          Palych9999 22 May 2014 22: 00
          -3
          What are you fomenting?
          It’s not there, huh? If your hands itch like that
          Their "audience" also goes to work, and peels seeds, looking out of the windows, and does not rush to us in a crowd ...
          If we ourselves don’t need them, then what are they for us?
          By winter, they themselves will half through each other, and there - it will be seen
        2. Palych9999
          Palych9999 22 May 2014 22: 00
          -5
          What are you fomenting?
          It’s not there, huh? If your hands itch like that
          Their "audience" also goes to work, and peels seeds, looking out of the windows, and does not rush to us in a crowd ...
          If we ourselves don’t need them, then what are they for us?
          By winter, they themselves will half through each other, and there - it will be seen
        3. PM74
          PM74 23 May 2014 01: 36
          +1
          And it’s better not to send in troops. And to do in the western direction: Hit them from the air, and missiles. Well and, of course, declare a no-fly zone. Something they had helicopters flying there
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      5. Bear52
        Bear52 22 May 2014 21: 53
        +2
        Yes, to be exact - a small moosha am
    2. Capitalist
      Capitalist 22 May 2014 20: 16
      .
      Kolomoisk collector cars are also popular among militias. It’s easier to get them than armored vehicles, but there’s some sense. Recently, according to rumors, about two dozen were stolen.
      1. IvanT
        IvanT 22 May 2014 20: 40
        +5
        Primate, turn on the brain !!!
      2. serega.fedotov
        serega.fedotov 22 May 2014 20: 59
        +16
        Quote: Capitalist
        Kolomoisk collector cars are also popular among militias. It’s easier to get them than armored vehicles, but there’s some sense. Recently, according to rumors, about two dozen were stolen.

        Do the militias have MI24 too? Wash you somewhere in the wrong place!
        1. Vesnik
          Vesnik 23 May 2014 00: 29
          +1
          15 cars were reportedly taken away from Kolomoisky, the numbers were shown on a TV-type, where they saw let me know ... but for some reason 7 were shown.
          We really have all the ATMs and banks of Kolomoisky "unpacked".
          Today they blocked the salary card. The listed salary cannot be removed.
          I think it's true.
          1. melan
            melan 23 May 2014 01: 29
            +2
            Regarding the stolen cash collection vehicles

        2. ssskalinin
          ssskalinin 23 May 2014 00: 44
          0
          And who stole it? And maybe there was still loot?
        3. Capitalist
          Capitalist 23 May 2014 11: 30
          0
          Vasya, the battle was at night! At 4 in the morning! A helicopter attack shot at noon! And everything was already painted on this helicopter - he finished off the abandoned equipment so that no one would get it. He finished it off, so they barely managed to hide theirs .. and that's it .. And then some kind of snowstorm was fanned.
      3. nalim
        nalim 22 May 2014 21: 07
        +3
        it's time for Benya to "knives"!
        1. GRANATE-19
          GRANATE-19 23 May 2014 22: 24
          0
          Quote: nalim
          it's time for Benya to "knives"!

          It’s time for this shv @ l co with your own b @ yam ... la - grief collectors for the rule ...
          (they dishonor the profession!)
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      4. shasherin_pavel
        shasherin_pavel 22 May 2014 21: 43
        +4
        Well, yes, they are throwing them with open doors on the street, and they also turn off the engine and door lock. I pressed the button and the hijackers are exactly the same as in the armored safe. Only now is there a safe somewhere to unlock from the inside.
      5. andj61
        andj61 22 May 2014 22: 15
        +6
        Quote: Capitalist
        Kolomoisk collector cars are also popular among militias. It’s easier to get them than armored vehicles, but there’s some sense. Recently, according to rumors, about two dozen were stolen.
        That's right, but these rumors appeared today, after the attack. We must try to otmazatsya! But 11.05. there was already an attack, in my opinion on Krasnoarmeysk, when two people were shot dead right in front of the polling station. Then, too, arrived in the same cars from Dnepropetrovsk too.
        1. jktu66
          jktu66 22 May 2014 23: 39
          +2
          That's right, but these rumors appeared today, after the attack.
          Everything at the junta’s level of rumors, and hundreds of saboteurs are caught, and cities are being liberated from terrorists, and they are fighting with might and main, carefully hiding that Russia did not show up for war, and the condom will soon be popularly and almost unanimously chosen
        2. Vesnik
          Vesnik 23 May 2014 00: 32
          +1
          Yes. That's for sure. They were incognitive.
    3. shasherin_pavel
      shasherin_pavel 22 May 2014 21: 27
      +2
      Quote: jjj
      put combat vehicles back to back

      This is not an army, this is a gypsy camp. Apparently they decided that they were not holding BMP 2, but "Tigers" with 80 mm armor. To set up a camp next to the road, not to set up posts, even if you were not going to fight ... then you would immediately surrender to the "captivity" than to stand like that. It is clear that you feel sorry for people ... but if you were mobilized, then you need to decide how to protect your life ... even from the Pravosek people, even from the bank. But Privat Bank should be boycotted.
    4. Ross
      Ross 22 May 2014 21: 40
      +29
      Women of Slavyansk
      1. Vorodis_vA
        Vorodis_vA 23 May 2014 00: 19
        +4
        Lord save mercy
      2. ssskalinin
        ssskalinin 23 May 2014 00: 46
        0
        What I like about the children of the USSR is healthy cynicism. Although actually sad girls!
    5. timer
      timer 22 May 2014 23: 21
      +3
      I would be glad to hear the news that the soldiers of the Donbas militia ripped off Kolomoisky’s eggs. The guys hold on and attack the Kiev scum more actively!
    6. papik09
      papik09 23 May 2014 02: 54
      0
      Quote: jjj
      with the symbols of the bank of Kolomoisky

      And Mr. Kedmi said, however, that the Jews who made the WRONG decision about the events in Ukraine will answer with their ASS am
  2. Nikoha.2010
    Nikoha.2010 22 May 2014 19: 41
    +11
    Quote: MIKHAN
    They promised and did .. They warned the junta! There is no particular joy, but if you do not understand what to do?

    Vitaly agrees! No joy. Nobody called them, and the compulsion to fight against their will is not understandable at all. For what do they die? I'm talking about the Ukrop army, right-wing scumbags and mercenaries as a separate topic. What will happen after May 25? And will the newly-minted president throw out the "Bandera" troops with renewed vigor? When will this moralism end, or when at least in the southeast will the whole people realize and rise? How long will there be enough people like Shooters? True heroes and defenders of the people from the Nazis!
    1. tolian
      tolian 22 May 2014 20: 36
      +4
      Let's remember how the Chechens were pacified. They just bought them. They found the leader, shot some of the militants and showered dollars. But this is Russia. But will America be able to roll? This is the question. They only know how to receive. And to spend without a guarantee to get back the many times spent -oh, as they do not know how and do not want to. Wait and see. And they buy better than even Chechens. And, given the fact that the Russians there are peppered with Natsiks, and quite abundantly, blood cannot be avoided there. And the shooting of this checkpoint looks like an "event" frightening the clinkers of the Moishe and the pastor of Satan.
      1. Revolver
        Revolver 22 May 2014 21: 28
        +8
        Quote: tolian
        But can America sprinkle?

        I personally, as a taxpayer and a voter, are categorically against it. And, according to my observation, the majority of Russian-speaking Americans, except for Ukrainians (not Jews) - immigrants from Western regions, are also against it. But unfortunately, the majority of American voters receive the bulk of information from television channels, and they, with rare exceptions, are in the hands of liberals. So in the bottom line we have Obama (or rather, he has taxpayers).
        negative
      2. shasherin_pavel
        shasherin_pavel 22 May 2014 21: 50
        +1
        Quote: tolian
        how the Chechens calmed down

        Quote: tolian
        "event" frightening clinkers kAlo of moishe and pastor of Satan

        Of course, I respect the opinions of others or the malaise of consciousness, but for these two phrases worthy of the Nazi, I am unsuccessful.
      3. xan
        xan 22 May 2014 23: 30
        0
        Quote: tolian
        They just bought them

        Before buying, the Chechens were shown the immediate future prospects in a better world. And the smart ones agreed right away, because other smarts stood in line to agree.
      4. PM74
        PM74 23 May 2014 05: 33
        +1
        Everything is much more complicated. And not like you: bought, sold, dumped dollars. It’s not possible to buy a people. You can buy a part of the elite that will lead the most radical elements. The people will figure it out anyway, sooner or later
  3. a52333
    a52333 22 May 2014 19: 55
    +28
    Actually, it was a provocation. The army has not yet taken part in ATO. The Nazis are trying to force the army to fight in this way. Before commenting, it is advisable to read the article and video. Three minutes for an article + video is not enough.
    1. TEODOR
      TEODOR 22 May 2014 19: 59
      +7
      Quote: a52333
      Actually, it was a provocation. The army has not yet taken part in ATO. The Nazis are trying to force the army to fight in this way. Before commenting, it is advisable to read the article and video. Three minutes for an article + video is not enough.

      I thought so too until I read Streltsov's comment.
      1. andj61
        andj61 22 May 2014 22: 20
        +5
        Yes, Strelkov himself did not know a damn about it when he commented. He was told only about the fact. This is a clear provocation! Helicopters finished off the soldier!
        1. lukke
          lukke 23 May 2014 00: 04
          0
          Helicopters finished off the soldier!
          and where is the logic? Everyone could immediately solve them to the last collectors, but they didn’t, because they also needed the living, who would later tell everyone about the St. George ribbons on the trunks of machine guns shooting! Because this super-operation could take place under the organization and leadership of a narrow circle of people - crocodile pilots might not have known what was going on on the block, visually looked - the equipment was burned, corpses, well, we thought - from your own in such a picture you can hardly see who is alive is messing around !? (all the camouflages are the same — or rather, different as the entire range of NATO is in one place), which means that the militias probably collect trophies - but just in case, I dyke a dick and look at the reaction. Pa-pa-pa ... Oh! Like ours, flew to report ...
          1. ssskalinin
            ssskalinin 23 May 2014 00: 54
            +3
            About geogiev tapes on the trunks of machine guns this is certainly the height of criticism. It is a pity the guys accidentally forgot a couple of three Russian tricolors and did not drop the FSB and GRU certificates somewhere under the birch. Although the inscription Spartak - the champion on board the burnt BTR2 would definitely show where the legs grow from
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    2. serega.fedotov
      serega.fedotov 22 May 2014 21: 02
      +6
      Quote: a52333
      Actually, it was a provocation. The army has not yet taken part in ATO. The Nazis are trying to force the army to fight in this way. Before commenting, it is advisable to read the article and video. Three minutes for an article + video is not enough.

      If provocative, then the stupid word of mouth in the army was always on top! Find out the details right away.
    3. Black
      Black 22 May 2014 21: 23
      +4
      HERE IS ALL UNDERSTANDING. NEW NOTHING. ALL THE SAME.

      But, someone will explain, but officers in the army of Ukraine in general, or not ??? Do they remember what honor is? Bandits come and fly (!!!) and clean up the army !!!! What is it like? And do they continue to serve?
      1. Vesnik
        Vesnik 23 May 2014 00: 42
        +1
        Nobody wants to fight. There are no enthusiasts "with bundles of grenades" for tanks.
        There are some "bodies" who do not care and "for the loot", of course, and not small, fucking with impunity on the Maidan. Show an "example" for newcomers to "blame" everyone and everything.
    4. Suhow
      Suhow 22 May 2014 21: 54
      +4
      if it was a provocation, and the military will establish the truth, then the kapets will come to the provocateurs. There are also many smart people among the military.
    5. Iskander Khan
      Iskander Khan 23 May 2014 02: 13
      0
      Urgent repost! It may have already appeared. Natsikov is extinguished by his own helicopters near Volnovakha (DPR). I think it doesn’t need a translation. The DNI has no turntables. If you know how, then repost on foreign sites.
  4. Lord of the Sith
    Lord of the Sith 22 May 2014 20: 03
    +7
    Here's how turntables work to finish off the 51st Brigade checkpoint.


    1. Capitalist
      Capitalist 22 May 2014 20: 14
      +1
      what finishing? you figure it out first in the situation then write ..
      the detachment was destroyed early in the morning .. at about 4 in the morning. turntables in this video - they destroyed the attacked BMD that was knocked out already at night and abandoned. and that’s it. only one rocket is fired in this video. everything else is heat trap.
      1. Lord of the Sith
        Lord of the Sith 22 May 2014 21: 02
        +4
        Quote: Capitalist
        what finishing? you figure it out first in the situation then write ..
        the detachment was destroyed early in the morning .. at about 4 in the morning. turntables in this video - they destroyed the attacked BMD that was knocked out already at night and abandoned. and that’s it. only one rocket is fired in this video. everything else is heat trap.

        What BMD attackers? What are you talking about? look already there is a video after the battles, what was destroyed there, there is a video before the battle, the same equipment was standing near the road, and there is a burned-out one, and on the road there is a Privatbank car.

        I see that the thermal turntables, soon a video will appear showing horses coming to the military still alive. Filmed by the military by the way. Pieces of this video have already been shown on TV.
      2. andj61
        andj61 22 May 2014 22: 26
        +2
        It was not BMD that was thrown, but the Privat-Bank collector’s car, and helicopters crashed into people, too - several people were injured.
      3. Lord of the Sith
        Lord of the Sith 22 May 2014 22: 49
        +1
        https://vk.com/vegchel?z=video-67359347_169000828%2F20bc68fac13fce9cd6

        Here you can see in the video who works for whom with turntables!
    2. Our hero
      Our hero 22 May 2014 20: 59
      +6
      Pease ... ly !!! This is not finishing !!! This is support by the air group of ground units !!! Turntables fired protective missiles from MANPADS !!!
      1. andj61
        andj61 22 May 2014 22: 27
        +2
        At that moment, there were no opponents there, only Ukrainian soldiers. And all the same, they shot from helicopters both in the car and people got it.
        1. Capitalist
          Capitalist 23 May 2014 11: 32
          0
          the helicopter will release traps in any danger .. he let out - how does he know who sits in the neighboring bushes and with what, even if at first glance it is not visible?
      2. Lord of the Sith
        Lord of the Sith 22 May 2014 22: 49
        +1
        Quote: Our Knight
        Pease ... ly !!! This is not finishing !!! This is support by the air group of ground units !!! Turntables fired protective missiles from MANPADS !!!

        https://vk.com/vegchel?z=video-67359347_169000828%2F20bc68fac13fce9cd6

        Here you can see in the video who works for whom with turntables!
    3. BYV
      BYV 22 May 2014 21: 07
      +2
      I agree about the time of destruction. In addition, Strelkov made it clear that this was the work of the militia. The interview of the brigade commander also raises doubts, as well as the pictures in the video. Why insert a photo of "polite people"? In general, information flows in a stream, and it is becoming more and more difficult to distinguish misinformation from the truth.
      1. Lord of the Sith
        Lord of the Sith 22 May 2014 22: 49
        +2
        Quote: BYV
        I agree about the time of destruction. In addition, Strelkov made it clear that this was the work of the militia. The interview of the brigade commander also raises doubts, as well as the pictures in the video. Why insert a photo of "polite people"? In general, information flows in a stream, and it is becoming more and more difficult to distinguish misinformation from the truth.

        https://vk.com/vegchel?z=video-67359347_169000828%2F20bc68fac13fce9cd6

        Here you can see in the video who works for whom with turntables!
        1. BYV
          BYV 22 May 2014 23: 41
          0
          Quote: Sith Lord
          Here you can see in the video who works for whom with turntables!

          At the expense of the turntables - yes, now I understand. But they arrived after the battle. And according to this video, it is not possible to understand who exactly destroyed the post (column). At first they shout that "Tse are ours", then "Tse ne are ours."
          PS By the way, thanks for the link. Materials seen only on YouTube.
          "+" To you.
          1. Lord of the Sith
            Lord of the Sith 22 May 2014 23: 56
            0
            Quote: BYV
            At the expense of the turntables - yes, now I understand. But they arrived after the battle. And according to this video, it is not possible to understand who exactly destroyed the post (column). At first they shout that "Tse are ours", then "Tse ne are ours."
            PS By the way, thanks for the link. Materials seen only on YouTube.
            "+" To you.


            And I didn’t write that the turntables were destroyed, I said finish off.

            set you too +
            1. BYV
              BYV 23 May 2014 00: 10
              0
              By the way, do you know what's wrong with "Russian Spring"? As I understand it, another DOS attack?
              PS Oops .... you made me a major .... repeat
              1. Lord of the Sith
                Lord of the Sith 23 May 2014 00: 44
                +3
                Quote: BYV
                By the way, do you know what's wrong with "Russian Spring"? As I understand it, another DOS attack?
                PS Oops .... you made me a major .... repeat

                Yes, there they will be finished in a day. In February, 50 cyber attack specialists were brought back.

                I went to your profile and + put, so you added +100

                Here is part of the video here that I threw from the contact.
                1. BYV
                  BYV 23 May 2014 01: 01
                  +1
                  Thank you.
    4. polite people
      polite people 22 May 2014 23: 04
      +2
      In the video, a soldier prays to God. And he himself came to kill.
      He himself wants to look into his eyes. Who are you that came to fight with your people. God punishes one intention to kill ..........
  5. Lord of the Sith
    Lord of the Sith 22 May 2014 20: 09
    +1
    But the advertising of the 51st brigade, that in principle of any part

  6. Sterlya
    Sterlya 22 May 2014 20: 12
    +2
    The collector’s car is burnt, I don’t think it’s a matter of militias.
    Like this. took up arms, especially in a civil war, anything can be
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  8. Civil
    Civil 22 May 2014 20: 52
    +2
    Horror ... did we do this? Or are they themselves? The USA has achieved its goal!
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  10. Stalker
    Stalker 22 May 2014 21: 19
    +1
    They promised and did .. They warned the junta! There is no particular joy, but if you do not understand what to do?

    Everything returns to normal .... But the boys feel sorry.
  • lexx2038
    lexx2038 22 May 2014 19: 30
    +14
    What did they want? Picked up a weapon - be ready to die.
    1. Bogranz
      Bogranz 22 May 2014 19: 55
      +12
      In any case, it was just stupidly senseless to shoot just like that. Conscripts, boys .... They could be easily disarmed. I don’t think they would shoot. It seems someone just needed to shoot this block post. I do not think that this was in the interests of the militias.
      1. shuhartred
        shuhartred 22 May 2014 22: 17
        +1
        Quote: Bograntz
        Conscripts, boys ....

        What the fuck conscripts! You look at the news. Survivors showed there, these are people mobilized in the National Guard. Guys for thirty. Whoever shoots them is a war, but they don’t click their beaks in a war. They slept damn warriors.
  • Same lech
    Same lech 22 May 2014 19: 31
    +11
    The circumstances of the death of servicemen are very foggy and not specific .... someone drove up, shot, an explosion, a bunch of corpses.
    1. ksv500
      ksv500 22 May 2014 19: 58
      +8
      One thing is certain - the checkpoint has been gouged into dust, 3 BPM, truck, 2 sanitary pills. Shooters rights to ukrov this will have both a demoralizing and a mobilizing effect.
  • Muadipus
    Muadipus 22 May 2014 19: 32
    +6
    War is Scary! In the war they kill :(
  • queen
    queen 22 May 2014 19: 32
    +7
    Everything is not easy there, or they will force their own, you won’t go shoot, You’ll go with the weapons to the people, you will die. Here it is a sad civil war (
  • tomket
    tomket 22 May 2014 19: 33
    +17
    It would be a joy if the corpses of the "blacks" were lying on the field, and instead of the BMP, Kolomoev's incasators would burn out. And so, the same people ...
    1. theadenter
      theadenter 22 May 2014 19: 37
      +4
      Or we, or they ...
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    3. queen
      queen 22 May 2014 19: 41
      +8
      Quote: tomket
      corpses of "blacks" were lying

      These will not climb, piss, they can only shoot at peaceful.
    4. Homo
      Homo 22 May 2014 19: 51
      +9
      Quote: tomket
      And so, it's the same people ....

      The person standing opposite and sending the weapon in your direction is no longer a person but an enemy. How do you know what is on his mind, will he shoot or not!
      1. Koresh
        Koresh 23 May 2014 01: 35
        +1
        These guys refused to take part in the operation despite giving money only for agreeing to go into battle ... but they refused. If there were militiamen it was necessary to make contact with them and not shoot the guys ... and if it was Kolomoisky ... you need to kill the nits ...
  • Signaller
    Signaller 22 May 2014 19: 35
    +17
    Well, that sorted it out. Cowardice is one of the qualities of today's people. A car, a summer house, an apartment, a sofa and a beer with a ram, and waste it all. And here you have to fight. For "nezalezhnaya" -there even grandmother promised. So they bought it, but as Balda said when he clicked his ass on his forehead ???? Correctly, "The pop wouldn't be chasing cheapness." We must fight for the truth, for life and freedom. It costs nothing in monetary terms, but it is very expensive.
    1. vezunchik
      vezunchik 22 May 2014 19: 48
      +13
      Cowardice in 93 in Russia led to the Chechen war and hundreds of thousands of killed Russians! Kudrin Chubais Germans and other evil spirits flourishes ...
    2. unsinkable
      unsinkable 22 May 2014 21: 50
      +1
      buddy, do not generalize, calling everyone cowards. There are among us the heroes of our time.
  • soyuz-nik
    soyuz-nik 22 May 2014 19: 35
    +5
    They will never (already) be brothers -
    Neither in the Homeland, nor in the mother ....
  • Giant thought
    Giant thought 22 May 2014 19: 36
    .
    Glory to the Russian soldiers who tumbled down so many ukrov. Lord, do not let the next atrocities of these nonhumans from the junta take place, please send victory to the real Christ army, protecting all the people of eastern Ukraine from these ghouls. We, the simple people of Russia, morally with all our souls, are the defenders of the Russian people.
    1. Dezinto
      Dezinto 22 May 2014 19: 44
      +40
      "Glory to the Russian soldiers who have rolled so many ukrov."

      This is what you dear about. No need for such anger !!

      Ukrainians are fraternal people as before. But Bandera and pravossaki is no one!
      As in that question to the veteran - grandfather, how many people did you kill in the war ?, not at all my son, - And where did so many medals come from ?, -Fascists killed.

      you can’t say more precisely.
    2. regsSSSR
      regsSSSR 22 May 2014 20: 06
      +6
      ignore provocation but try to figure it out first! the army of the southeast have no attribution to this attack. This is the next punitive operation of the Kolomoisky cleansing the rebellious military!
      http://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/1596886.html
      here is detailed enough
    3. Suhow
      Suhow 22 May 2014 22: 18
      +2
      litter some kind of nonsense put one (-) and crawled out doh ... There were mobilized (partisans) and judging by Strelkov’s words didn’t touch anyone. Was it to kill them? authorities?
    4. alone
      alone 22 May 2014 23: 22
      +2
      I can’t even find words to express my anger to your comment. GOD is a Judge to you. Each death means deepening the pit between the two nations. And you rejoice at it. Regardless of nationality, people die, each killed is dozens of the future generation killed. negative
    5. Turkir
      Turkir 23 May 2014 01: 13
      +2
      There is nothing to be happy about. This is a provocation to incite the hatred of Ukrainian soldiers towards the Russians, towards the militia. The guys do not want to fight with them, so the special battalion "Donbas" did it. This is Yarosh's handwriting.
      The parents of these guys and Ukrainian soldiers will be told that the Russian militias did it.
      Read how World War II began on September 2, 1. Operation Gleiwitz.
      The same handwriting. This is the handwriting of scoundrels. Nazi handwriting.
    6. Iskander Khan
      Iskander Khan 23 May 2014 02: 34
      0
      Urgent repost! It may have already appeared. Natsikov is extinguished by his own helicopters near Volnovakha (DPR). I think it doesn’t need a translation. The DNI has no turntables. If you know how, then repost on foreign sites.
  • regsSSSR
    regsSSSR 22 May 2014 19: 37
    +18
    Today at ~ 4:30 in the morning the checkpoint was destroyed, beyond Volnovakha.
    Armored cars (collector cars) private 2 jeeps drove up and shot the military 15 killed and more than 30 wounded, Ukrainian armored vehicles burned. One of the armored cars could not leave. After 3 hours, 2 Mi-24 combat helicopters and one Mi-8 flew in and shot armored cars in bounce from cannons, making 2 approaches, and launched an attack despite the fact that their military were nearby. One soldier was wounded in the leg, and also got into an ambulance. The armored cars arrived from Veliko-Anadol and the Dnipropetrovsk region.
    Having shot an armored car from cannons, they cleared out all the possible evidence of who actually was in the collector's car. This is a failure of Kolomoisky, but a pity for the military who fell victim to this provocation.

    The victims were the Ukrainian military, conscripts, eighteen-year-old boys. They were all shot, and the attackers of their dead / wounded were taken. Only the privatized armored car remained, which was shot by military helicopters.
    Recall that 2 days ago in Volnovakha there was a round table on which the military, who said that they would not go anywhere and would not conduct any operations against the residents, would remain to protect people from the Right Sector and others who would threaten people's lives. They were going to go to the side of the DNI, apparently in this way the boys became a victim of provocation, because they would not follow orders for cleansing from Kiev.
    And the armored car, which did not have time to leave, turned out to be a failure and a combat helicopter was used to hide evidence.

    http://arbaletfire.livejournal.com/202939.html
  • uteko
    uteko 22 May 2014 19: 37
    +6
    In a terrible time we live ...
  • Horn
    Horn 22 May 2014 19: 37
    +20
    We did everything right. You can't be "a little pregnant". Either you sit at home under the bed, or you go to fight with weapons. Excuses like "shoot in the air" - do not roll.
  • scientist
    scientist 22 May 2014 19: 38
    0
    In Russia, it was always considered a great honor to stand up for the weak and destitute. So is it true that when our correspondents are taken hostage, when dozens of civilians are poisoned and burned alive, people are shot from their helicopters and heavy weapons in their native land, the Russian army will cowardly sit out frightened by sanctions!?!?
    All this resembles Stalinist politics at the beginning of 41g. when they reported to him about the impending attack by Nazi Germany, and he demanded not to succumb to provocations - everyone probably remembers the result.
    1. traffik-05
      traffik-05 22 May 2014 20: 00
      +11
      come volunteer and fight ...
      1. ussrex
        ussrex 22 May 2014 20: 11
        +3
        ... and he demanded not to succumb to provocations - everyone probably remembers the result.

        Aha, remember. 1945, Berlin, the surrender of Nazi Germany.
        1. Saratovets
          Saratovets 22 May 2014 20: 33
          +1
          This is yes, as well as 80 million in the occupation and 28 million dead, tens of millions of wounded mutilated by soul and body. A third of wealth, etc., etc. was spent on the war.
          The consequences of that mistake we still feel ....
          P.S. Everyone killed in the war could bring more offspring and the Russians now would not be 200 but 400 million! and this would not be alcoholism and much more
          1. shasherin_pavel
            shasherin_pavel 22 May 2014 22: 53
            +2
            Quote: Saratovets
            28 million killed tens of millions of wounded

            In fact, economists agree with the ancients that a state that has ten warriors for ten people is doomed to economic failure. Among these ten are: infants and children, women, people with disabilities, the elderly unable to hold arms and workers arming the army, peasants feeding the army and members of the government who are not fighting. In the same number, it must be borne in mind that not the whole army is at war, some protect the borders with other states, protect the rear and monitor the order on roads and railways. But now imagine that out of 2 million (the first census of the population, which was canceled by the government and revised to 160 million according to the order), only 200 million are assigned to those killed, and this is one in seven and not ten. Even if not 28, as it is now customary to say, but 28 million, then this is an economic collapse, since for every dead person there are three wounded, and every fourth wounded person is disabled. Who flew into space? Who raised the country? Infants and the elderly. Figures should not only be read, but also thought over ... and not for the sake of politics, but common sense. Personally, I’m even afraid of 20 million dead, but here 5. 28 million laid shoulder to shoulder is 20 times around the Earth at the equator. if stacked on top of each other, then this is a wall of human bodies 212 meters high. What is now not scary? 53 million is 28 million injured and 000 million disabled. Children stood at the machine tools because 000 million people were drafted into the army. Who should raise the country after the war? Even 84 million dead, this is 20 million wounded and 32 million disabled.
      2. scientist
        scientist 22 May 2014 22: 04
        +3
        Quote: traffik-05
        come volunteer and fight ...

        By your logic, is the entire male population of Russia who does not give up everything and does not go to war with the fascists and the Kiev junta either cowards, or support the killing of residents of the Southeast? How many do you take on a petty provocateur! Wanted to fake, Fuck you! Our grandfathers beat the fascists, and we will finish it!
    2. maxxdesign
      maxxdesign 22 May 2014 20: 37
      +4
      read the story more closely, and you will understand why Stalin was waiting for the Germans to attack first ... the USSR then it was impossible even to pull the troops to the border, because you would have immediately been accused of attack, and the fact that Germany was standing at our borders was supposedly a training maneuver ... double standards of the usa and geyropa and then led!
      1. Saratovets
        Saratovets 22 May 2014 20: 46
        +6
        I am a historian ... In the Navy, Admiral Kuznetsov introduced a combat readiness system.
        as a result, the Fleet, unlike the army, met the Germans as expected ... both in the tail and in the mane, nothing prevented Stalin from introducing the same system into the army. And mobilization plans (in terms of industry - evacuation, etc.) were adopted in 1936 and before the war were not adjusted! and much more
        1. Vita_vko
          Vita_vko 22 May 2014 22: 36
          -3
          Quote: Saratovets
          read the story more closely, and you will understand why Stalin was waiting for the Germans to attack first

          For almost a day after the attack, Stalin could not believe what was happening, he hid - this is a fact.
          It is also a fact that the Nazis flew over and photographed Soviet territory for more than a month (just as Ukrainians and NATO are doing now), while the entire Western Soviet group of forces was located in the rear, instead of concentrating along the border.
          As a result, in the first month of fighting 90% of the combat potential was lost. The fact that the fascist did not enter Moscow could only be called a miracle.
          As a result of the "Stalinist military policy" in the initial period of the war, the people paid a terrible price for one upholstered Fritz, up to 20 Soviet soldiers died!
          And now, many in the Crimean euphoria are trying to succumb to provocations, just like in 41 after the Finnish company. History repeats itself and repeats itself in the most criminal way. In the Southeast, the people are already beginning to hate Putin for his "support", which stands for nothing but useless statements and condemnations. It is clear that Putin is waiting for the elections. Because the recognition of the elections as legitimate means a betrayal of the peoples of the South-East, and non-recognition even before the start of the elections is stupidity without any reasoning. And the introduction of troops or even a provocation at the border will be the basis for the Kiev junta to cancel the elections and introduce martial law, refuse to pay debts, etc. etc.
          In general, the people need to survive for at least a few more days on their own, and then if the newly elected president continues the same policy, the other is simply not allowed to be carried out by the CIA officers who actually control Ukraine, the entry of Russian peacekeeping forces will be inevitable.
          1. Baloo_bst
            Baloo_bst 22 May 2014 23: 53
            +3
            Strange how you did it, the grouping was in the rear, and after a month 90% of the potential was lost.
            It does not fit. During the month of the war, the Germans, in addition to Minsk, did not take other large industrial cities, and a boiler was not even planned near Kiev. The battle for Smolensk was in full swing. Moscow has not even been bombed yet.
          2. alicante11
            alicante11 23 May 2014 01: 33
            +3
            For almost a day after the attack, Stalin could not believe what was happening, he hid - this is a fact.


            You should at least read the journal of visits to Stalin's Kremlin office, so as not to publish such "facts".
          3. PM74
            PM74 23 May 2014 04: 43
            +4
            According to Stalin, stupidity!
            About a month, stupidity!
            90% utter stupidity!
            About Moscow and a miracle. I don’t want to talk even.
            You do not know the history of the Second World War, dear
        2. PM74
          PM74 23 May 2014 01: 57
          +2
          I’m sorry, I am an amateur. But answer the question: from what until the 44th Baltic Fleet could not do anything? From what did the Black Sea Fleet support only the landing of naval assault forces? Why did the Northern Fleet (then it was very weak) provide convoys to Western countries?
          1. Saratovets
            Saratovets 23 May 2014 08: 07
            0
            Because the fleet cannot operate without bases, and we lost the fleet’s bases from land, and the German fleet was objectively stronger ... I mean readiness to repulse the attack, it was quite high in the fleet, there were flaws, for example, weren’t prepared to repel the attacks of faster aircraft than anticipated ...
    3. shasherin_pavel
      shasherin_pavel 22 May 2014 22: 16
      +9
      Quote: scientist
      Stalinist politics at the beginning of 41g.

      Stalin was informed about the impending attack since the occupation of Poland. In total, there were more than 20 such messages in only 41 years. So Hitler also postponed the outbreak of hostilities five times. So why then it was necessary to believe 21 messages, if 20 were not confirmed? In fact, if you read the memoirs and not of politicized historians, then the planes of the fascists went astray even before June 22. Near Murmansk, on the 20th, the Messer fired at the children on the bridge and killed two, and on the 21st, anti-aircraft artillery opened fire on a German plane. And nobody was arrested or shot. From 40, the military industry switched to a 10-hour shift, with the beginning of the war, to a 12-hour shift. History should be studied not according to Solzhenitsyn and not according to Volkogonov, one from the CIA, the other from Khrushchev's policy, and he put former OUN members in party positions in Kiev.
  • lexx2038
    lexx2038 22 May 2014 19: 38
    +6
    Quote: The same Lech
    The circumstances of the death of servicemen are very foggy and not specific .... someone drove up, shot, an explosion, a bunch of corpses.


    Such is the essence of the civil war, like a brother or a son, for example, and the enemy is unclear to the normal brain. Moreover, a minority is fighting for the idea, the rest of the bandits are simple to rob, settle scores, rape, hoping to escape retribution in the muddy water.
  • Albert1988
    Albert1988 22 May 2014 19: 38
    +7
    The "Vostok" battalion did its best ?!)
    In general, I agree with Strelkov a little more than 100% - very many in modern Ukraine live in some other fantasy world with a capacious name "moyahataskraiu" ... is already on ...
    PS I would like to really hope that after such an "action" among the Khuntai "military" ala the Nazi guards and the right-wing sectarian will reduce their "prowess" to shoot even at civilians ...
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      1. Albert1988
        Albert1988 22 May 2014 20: 05
        +4
        You are, of course, right, but as far as this incident is concerned, it looks like they really are the Kalomois ... they staged an "action" to intimidate the soldiers who refused to obey the orders to clean up ...
        Well, one can only hope that after this the Ukrainian military will see soon ...
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  • gandalf
    gandalf 22 May 2014 19: 42
    +4
    In a civil war, you cannot stay third. Sooner or later, you have to choose the side.
  • soyuz-nik
    soyuz-nik 22 May 2014 19: 42
    +4
    Quote: uteko
    In a terrible time we live ...


    Good health, I wish! hi

    And there were worse times ... IMHO, the problem is that, as they say, history teaches us that it us teaches nothing.....
  • melan
    melan 22 May 2014 19: 43
    +1
    Damn, here is a link to an article in itar-tass. http://itar-tass.com/mezhdunarodnaya-panorama/1206612
    I quote
    "At the moment there is no confirmation that representatives of the DPR are taking part in the clash," the press service of the proclaimed Donetsk People's Republic noted.


    Who posted the article?
    1. melan
      melan 22 May 2014 21: 22
      +4
      By the way, the reliability of Strelkov’s commentary is also very doubtful. The site on which his statements appeared http://rusvesna.su is constantly being downloaded, and he is lying all day. His fake clone is working, from which they took a comment. Draw conclusions what is called ...
      1. melan
        melan 22 May 2014 21: 53
        +6
        A new video has just appeared! A soldier of the Ukrainian army runs away from helicopters and screams - not ours!

        1. Oprychnik
          Oprychnik 22 May 2014 22: 42
          +1
          The Ukrosssykuns did not take on their own business. I forsake! Amen!
        2. Slavs
          Slavs 22 May 2014 23: 56
          0
          With the coordination of units and aviation - the trouble ...
  • kotvov
    kotvov 22 May 2014 19: 43
    +2
    eh, peasants. muzhiki. well, why did you go to fight? You’ll be the first and they will substitute you. Now, joys in families.
  • coolvoldik
    coolvoldik 22 May 2014 19: 43
    +7
    For these meaningless deaths, hang first of all this pi-dora, a fat turchinov hog - on an aspen and score him in the ass to score. And after him all the other eggs, avaco-parubiev ...
    1. Penzyac
      Penzyac 22 May 2014 21: 16
      +4
      Quote: coolvoldik
      For these meaningless deaths, hang first of all this pi-dora, a fat turchinov hog - on an aspen and score him in the ass to score. And after him all the other eggs, avaco-parubiev ...

      First of all, it would be necessary to hang one swarthy Nobel laureate, a bloody champion of "freedom" and "democracy", but unfortunately he is not yet within reach, I hope someday it will not be so and he will still answer for everything. am
      1. Horn
        Horn 23 May 2014 07: 53
        0
        Quote: PENZYAC
        Quote: coolvoldik
        For these meaningless deaths, hang first of all this pi-dora, a fat turchinov hog - on an aspen and score him in the ass to score. And after him all the other eggs, avaco-parubiev ...

        First of all, it would be necessary to hang one swarthy Nobel laureate, a bloody champion of "freedom" and "democracy", but unfortunately he is not yet within reach, I hope someday it will not be so and he will still answer for everything. am

        - Obama's real home:
  • typhoon7
    typhoon7 22 May 2014 19: 43
    +4
    The war is gaining momentum, and the closer the election, the more fierce the battles, the larger calibers are applied, which will be possible only after the election. Kolomoisky with a gang must be crushed, he has professional mercenaries.
  • Russ69
    Russ69 22 May 2014 19: 43
    +6
    Another video ...
  • Sasspy
    Sasspy 22 May 2014 19: 44
    +7
    There is a logical chain - Odessa - Volnovakh - Next Kiev ... and blame Moscow !!! It will be quite noticeable
  • Arh
    Arh 22 May 2014 19: 44
    +1
    Who shot these warriors arrived in the cars of the Kolomoisk bank !!!
    1. Russ69
      Russ69 22 May 2014 19: 49
      +1
      Quote: Arh
      Who shot these warriors arrived in the cars of the Kolomoisk bank !!!

      These machines are at the bank and the militia squeezed ...

      Now Gubarev, he came to the Donetsk Regional State Administration from Slavyansk ...
    2. Dezinto
      Dezinto 22 May 2014 19: 53
      +5
      So I am surprised! More talk here. The battalion is east, in general, our sun is attributed. You what ay. First of all, what kind of character? like a right-winged man, they suddenly shot out of the bastard, shot ten more unarmed and into the fog. Secondly, they already wrote somewhere that Kolomoisky’s roof was going on, well, or he was dead at the end, because two armored collection vehicles with LOGOS arrived !!! Privat Bank!
    3. Ruskiye
      Ruskiye 22 May 2014 20: 05
      -9
      Like who. DNR militias. Cars were squeezed from the bank for a long time. In the first video, without sound, they arrived, offered to surrender weapons. Refused For the second call - they shot. Strange block post - some kind of Zarnitsa.
      1. Dezinto
        Dezinto 22 May 2014 20: 11
        +18
        I don’t believe that the DNR fighters, who a few days before agreed with these guys about non-aggression, seeing that there are no idiots in masks with chants about fame, then they would come and shoot them. Moreover, 10 unarmed on his knees. WTF. Such fascination is done only by fascists and mercenaries!
      2. soyuz-nik
        soyuz-nik 22 May 2014 20: 55
        +8
        Good health, I wish! hi

        Then why did the turntables work at this "checkpoint"? Have the militias already squeezed the turntables? request
        1. Ruskiye
          Ruskiye 22 May 2014 21: 41
          -2
          Turntables were working on an encapsulator machine that broke down near the post — maybe they shot it. Look at the video block of the post after the shooting - the territory fired by the turntables would look like a friend.
          1. xan
            xan 22 May 2014 23: 49
            +4
            Quote: Ruskiye
            Turntables were working on an encapsulator machine that broke down near the post — maybe they shot it. Look at the video block of the post after the shooting - the territory fired by the turntables would look like a friend.

            Stop inventing! Full of comments and videos, including from local eyewitnesses, from the wounded. The junta fighters shot the military for refusing to fight the people.
            1. Capitalist
              Capitalist 23 May 2014 11: 34
              +1
              yes you invent some nonsense
  • G8K
    G8K 22 May 2014 19: 50
    +7
    Mativatsya shooting the same as in Moriupol, an indicative punishment. Anyone who doubts should make their choice. If you stay in the middle, you will get pi ... on both sides.
  • Gloria45
    Gloria45 22 May 2014 19: 50
    +5
    Oh, p and dr and l o-martyr.
    1. Anper
      Anper 22 May 2014 20: 41
      +10
      Only now it dawned on whom he reminds!
    2. hommer
      hommer 23 May 2014 10: 01
      +1
      Quote: gloria45
      Oh, p and dr and l o-martyr.


      Paruby does not think of himself, does not think ...
      And Zhirik warned him.
      Or did the thinker completely refuse?
  • Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 22 May 2014 19: 51
    +1
    Someday this will all end in Ukraine .. I hope that they will remember all this with pain and shame constantly .. (and the Carpathian region will be the plain where they will hold an international tank biathlon)
  • Kilo-11
    Kilo-11 22 May 2014 19: 52
    +5
    True, I didn’t understand where there was a checkpoint or something like that, even primitive defensive positions were not even visible, elementary military guards were not visible. It looks more like a marching column of reinforced mssv, who took a rest, but again without a military security. Some civilians approached, approached and still hold heart-warming conversations, the result is in person. I agree with Comrade I. Strelkov, you can even say tougher herd. And nothing to lament is war!
  • Gorko
    Gorko 22 May 2014 19: 55
    +5
    Well, that sorted it out. Cowardice is one of the qualities of today's people. A car, a summer house, an apartment, a sofa and a beer with a ram, and waste it all. And here you have to fight. For "nezalezhnaya" -there even grandmother promised. So they bought it, but as Balda said when he clicked his ass on his forehead ???? Correctly, "The pop wouldn't be chasing cheapness." We must fight for the truth, for life and freedom. It costs nothing in monetary terms, but it is very expensive.

    And for what grandmothers conscripts are fighting, I would like to know? Sorry for the boys, they are fighting because they ordered.
    1. APASUS
      APASUS 22 May 2014 20: 58
      +5
      Quote: GORKO
      And for what grandmothers conscripts are fighting, I would like to know? Sorry for the boys, they are fighting because they ordered

      What kind of money?
      It was announced that they wouldn’t let go of the demobilization from the army for at least another 6 months, until further notice. There’s no word about money at all. Cannon meat fights for uncle for free
  • vezunchik
    vezunchik 22 May 2014 19: 56
    +3
    Ukrainian mass media report heavy losses of the Azov battalion near Mariupol.

    In particular, according to the VGolos edition, as a result of the battles between the DPR militias and the Azov punitive battalion, the latter lost 19 people killed and 25 wounded. Militia losses were not reported.

    Near Ugledar the "Right Sector" checkpoint was liquidated - 5 people were killed. This information is obtained from the Operational Attendant.

    Under Olginka, the enemy has up to 30 killed and seriously wounded during the night and morning.

    In the forest belt near Kramatorsk, 20 camouflaged corpses of law enforcement officers were discovered, according to their own sources.
    1. CARLSON
      CARLSON 22 May 2014 20: 20
      +11
      How to understand the 20 disguised corpses of pravosekov? Now is not winter, the smell will reveal any disguise, especially from 20 pigs.
      Or did they sho, lay in an ambush, disguised themselves in a forest belt, and then all together forgot how to breathe?
  • tol100v
    tol100v 22 May 2014 19: 58
    +13
    Most likely, the destruction of a small, in principle, unnecessary block-post is the preparation of public opinion to justify BIG BLOOD. WHICH IS GOING TO BE PERFORMED BY THE Kiev JUNE led by TRUPCHINOV and his minions and guide dogs. Something like this.
    1. Dezinto
      Dezinto 22 May 2014 20: 03
      +9
      How not fig! It may even be very possible, right now, how they will spread this news ukrosmi in all the details about the treachery of Russian saboteurs. It is "saboteurs" who are already writing on the censor.

      And at the same time, they frightened the remaining doubters from the National Guard. Do not kill the peaceful, we will kill you.
      1. tol100v
        tol100v 22 May 2014 20: 11
        0
        I agree that Ukrainians will try to squeeze the maximum out of it. Let them scare the National Guard and anyone else, but the result can be very big blood.
    2. Suhow
      Suhow 22 May 2014 22: 36
      0
      it is quite possible, and the opinion is turned in its direction ...
  • Oprychnik
    Oprychnik 22 May 2014 19: 59
    -1
    Destroyed a whole subdivision of UkroSS ... Sorry, UkroVS was wrong. The guys died because of the incompetent military leaders. It is curious that on bydlom, the unit is "pidrozdil".
    1. aleks_29296
      aleks_29296 22 May 2014 21: 19
      +1
      No need to be malicious. Ordinary people, reservists, who refused to shoot civilians, were killed, which already does them honor. But I, in connection with the incident, have one question: Is there really not a single worthy officer left in Ukraine who can defend the honor of his army, his subordinates, his homeland?
      1. Nikoha.2010
        Nikoha.2010 22 May 2014 22: 55
        +2
        Quote: aleks_29296
        No need to be malicious. Ordinary people, reservists, who refused to shoot civilians, were killed, which already does them honor. But I, in connection with the incident, have one question: Is there really not a single worthy officer left in Ukraine who can defend the honor of his army, his subordinates, his homeland?

        Alexei! Please explain to me, maybe I don’t understand what?
        1. Who is firing mortars and artillery systems on their compatriots, destroying homes and killing civilians?
        2. For what purpose pulled the Ukrainian Armed Forces heavy equipment, aircraft, Natsik, reservists and mercenaries in the Donetsk region?
        3. What are the reservists doing there?
        4. What honor can an army have in killing, but not protecting, its people?
        5. And what is the MOTHERLAND in your understanding?
        No malice, answer me, please at least to these questions! hi
        1. aleks_29296
          aleks_29296 22 May 2014 23: 24
          0
          First, they killed the guys who refused to shoot at unarmed people.
          Secondly, by the word worthy officer, I mean a person who is responsible for his subordinates (whom you notice killed), for his country, where the devil is going on, knows what. A person who can take control of the situation. Unfortunately, there are no strong personalities in Ukraine.
          And the concept of homeland was instilled in me in the Union. Then it was done much better than now.
        2. aleks_29296
          aleks_29296 22 May 2014 23: 24
          0
          First, they killed the guys who refused to shoot at unarmed people.
          Secondly, by the word worthy officer, I mean a person who is responsible for his subordinates (whom you notice killed), for his country, where the devil is going on, knows what. A person who can take control of the situation. Unfortunately, there are no strong personalities in Ukraine.
          And the concept of homeland was instilled in me in the Union. Then it was done much better than now.
    2. aleks_29296
      aleks_29296 22 May 2014 21: 19
      -2
      No need to be malicious. Ordinary people, reservists, who refused to shoot civilians, were killed, which already does them honor. But I, in connection with the incident, have one question: Is there really not a single worthy officer left in Ukraine who can defend the honor of his army, his subordinates, his homeland?
      1. plebs
        plebs 23 May 2014 02: 55
        +1
        But I, in connection with the incident, have one question: Is there really not a single worthy officer left in Ukraine who can defend the honor of his army, his subordinates, his homeland?
        Apparently not left. During the events on the Maidan, the command of the Ukrainian Armed Forces clearly stated that it would not use the army against the people. Behind the back of Yanukovych, who did not want bloodshed, such statements were easy to make. And when the current gentlemen came to power, ready to shoot the head off for such statements, the principled commanders disappeared somewhere. therefore
        in Ukraine there was not a single worthy officer able to defend the honor of his army, his subordinates, his homeland
  • vezunchik
    vezunchik 22 May 2014 19: 59
    +5
    The ROVD of the Volnovakha district reported losses among Ukrainian soldiers who refused to shoot at civilians.

    According to a source in the Volnovakha district police, at least 15 dead bodies are still at the site of a night battle in the village of Blagodatnoye, on the Russian-Ukrainian border. An armed conflict took place there at night. Militants from Kiev attacked the camp of the Ukrainian military. They acted with the support of armored vehicles and combat helicopters. Some of them arrived at the scene in Privatbank cars.

    - It is impossible to get close to the bodies of the dead, since the bodies are in tents, and ammunition is constantly exploding near the tents, the bodies are badly burned. In addition, the Bethaera burn in the place. Now firefighters are trying to extinguish them, ”a police source in the Volnovakha district said.

    The interlocutor emphasized that the recruits of the 51st volunteer brigade, which had been formed two months ago, were on duty at the checkpoint of the Ukrainian army. Now it is not possible to interrogate the victims, as many refuse to testify to the police.

    But the testimonies given by the wounded confirm the words of local residents that the checkpoint was attacked by unknown persons in jeeps and Privatbank cars.

    “The guys said the fight started around five in the morning.” People drove up to them in a car and started shooting, ”a source in the district’s police emphasized.

    According to local residents who witnessed the attack, unknown persons who arrived in Privatbank cash-in-transit vehicles and two jeeps opened fire on the Ukrainian military, who had previously refused to shoot at civilians.

    - Residents of the Holy One defended their homes. The National Guard was ordered to crush the resistance. They refused to shoot people, and in the end they were punished, ”says a source at the headquarters of the self-defense command.

    According to the interlocutor, this was a punitive operation ordered by the oligarch Igor Kolomoisky, the owner of Privatbank, known for funding the Maidan protests and paying remuneration to the Right Sector fighters.
  • Magic archer
    Magic archer 22 May 2014 19: 59
    +8
    It's time to bring down the very top .... While these bloodthirsty in power, ordinary people will die! Something is not heard of that Kazakh, who collected money for Kalomoisky ....
    1. Our hero
      Our hero 22 May 2014 21: 19
      -1
      collected grandmas and dumped to the west. laughing
  • Orc-xnumx
    Orc-xnumx 22 May 2014 19: 59
    +4
    Benya thought that after Odessa EVERYTHING is possible!
    1. Dezinto
      Dezinto 22 May 2014 20: 07
      +5
      I'm fucking up too. Okay, so I split it up !? Nate to you my brother collectors, but do not care what the logos are, I can do anything ... go go kill the draftees ....

      crap!
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      2. matross
        matross 22 May 2014 20: 40
        +7
        Quote: DEZINTO
        go to kill the draftees ....

        Yes, it’s good to whine already! These were the fighters of the 51-th Volunteer National Guard Brigade! They signed up, but it’s scary to fight, so they entered into agreements with the locals, they were punished for this. I do not see any reason to cry.
      3. Saratovets
        Saratovets 22 May 2014 20: 50
        +2
        And what did you want ... a man went to vabank, or all or a corpse
  • sania275
    sania275 22 May 2014 20: 00
    +6
    The flywheel of the Civil War spins. Sorry .
  • kvnvolga2008
    kvnvolga2008 22 May 2014 20: 03
    +2
    How many innocent guys are dying!
  • kirqiz ssr
    kirqiz ssr 22 May 2014 20: 05
    +1
    guys make it clear who shot whom one writes one on the news another shows who created it.
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 22 May 2014 20: 10
      +3
      Quote: kirqiz SSR
      guys make it clear who shot whom one writes one on the news another shows who created it.


      PS shot fighters of the National Guard for refusing to fight - a journalist. VIDEO


      Near Volnovakha in the Donetsk region, militants of the "Right Sector" shot soldiers of the National Guard. Reported by journalist Alexander Rogers.

      “Today, May 22, near Volnovakha (between Velikoanadol and Blagodatnoye) from 05.00 to 09.00, fighters of the National Guard were shot by militants of the Right Sector. The cause of the conflict was the refusal of the National Guard servicemen to fight against the DPR. "National Guard" of all the types of weapons they have, including combat helicopters were used. 50 injured servicemen were admitted to the Volnovakha hospital (12 died and 38 wounded), 8 people were taken to the railway hospital and 42 - to the central one. No death toll has been reported yet, but eyewitnesses say "the field is littered with corpses," Rogers said.

      Recall, the Ministry of Defense reported that near Volnovakha on the night of May 21-22, the rebels blew up the fighting machine of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, there are dead and wounded.

      Earlier it was reported that the President of the LPR introduced martial law on the territory of the republic and announced full mobilization.


      Source: http://polemika.com.ua/news-146144.html
    2. Capitalist
      Capitalist 22 May 2014 20: 26
      .
      according to information from ADEQUATE sources, the picture is as follows:

      1) it was a column, not a post block. they were given some kind of task, but the locals did not let them pass (and whatever they write here, only the stubborn will shoot at unarmed, and he will think - martial law has not been declared in the country .. this is actually one of the problems that Khokhlyatsk warriors complain - those who still have reason and conscience are not completely lost are forced to act with a bunch of restrictions). the commander decided to stop the convoy for the night on the road (-in the field it was necessary to go, in the field! and there for 2 hours to rummage then the guards and then sleep)

      2) the battle was at night. day video with turntables - this is finished off by the attackers who have been abandoned for a long time.

      3) a BMD drove up in the middle of the night, a couple of collection vehicles (which, as I wrote above, are also used by rebels to hijack and only drive them), some other vehicles (there were about 30 attackers in total) and crushed roadside equipment and people. about the casualties of the attackers is unknown, according to the technique of 1 bmd and one collection vehicle. column losses - 3 BMPs, 3 cars and about 15-20 people killed and about 30 wounded

      4) reports that this is some kind of "punitive detachment of Kolomoisky" is clear and 100% nonsense. they were rebels .. the fact that Strelkov does not know who it was doesn’t mean anything .. he doesn’t control anything there at all - there are quite a large number of independently acting independent groups.
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        1. Antropos
          Antropos 22 May 2014 21: 31
          0
          Yes, this is generally a strange person. What made the veteran of the two Chechen wars become a liberalist? Wanted easy fame?
          And according to the article ... The meaning of what happened is the same as the shooting on the Maidan. And the customer is the same.
          The saddest thing is that Arkady also knows this. (((
      2. Turkir
        Turkir 22 May 2014 21: 42
        +2
        Oh German, he knows better than the locals. Mercenary?
        1. Capitalist
          Capitalist 23 May 2014 11: 36
          0
          Vasya, it’s just that the Internet works at my proxy at work .. do you know what it is or explain it on your fingers?
      3. Ruskiye
        Ruskiye 22 May 2014 22: 29
        -8
        Information from ADEQUATE sources is not included in the program of creating in the Russian media the image of insane Ukrainians and peaceful rebels "DNR".

        Unfortunately, most readers of this resource will not accept logic.
        1. Antropos
          Antropos 22 May 2014 22: 41
          -1
          The familiar style is to set the bad luck. Somewhere I already saw it.)))
          Before writing in onalitiks, and even adequate, on this topic, show the incarnation winemaker. And the history of the car. It will be the same garbage as with bullets on the Maidan.
        2. xan
          xan 22 May 2014 23: 57
          0
          Quote: Ruskiye
          Unfortunately, most readers of this resource will not accept logic.

          And where is your logic, forum fighter?
          There is logic in the execution of the military by law-breakers, but no other logic is presented. About the shooting by BMD turntables and the collector’s militia car is not funny, but stupidly purely in Ukrainian
          1. Capitalist
            Capitalist 23 May 2014 11: 39
            0
            What is the logic of the shooting of military law enforcement officers?
            in that the army, which is already not particularly keen to fight at all, could not be forced to do so?
        3. Capitalist
          Capitalist 23 May 2014 11: 38
          0
          here, as elsewhere - the percentage of imbeciles and other anacephals approaches 90.
          people are not able to build even elementary logical chains.
  • Our hero
    Our hero 22 May 2014 20: 10
    .
    Oh my god you're mine. The more I look at Dala in Ukraine, the more I remember Chechnya. There, too, they shouted for independence and also fought a fratricidal war. I really hope that Putin is smart enough not to go into the civil war in Ukraine. For I can name nothing more than what is happening there. And especially I can’t watch how our (Russian and citizens of neighboring countries) are shooting (killing) Ukrainian boys who took the oath and are faithful to it to the end. I can’t and don’t want anything good about these killers! In Russia, there is a law prohibiting Russian citizens from participating in wars and military conflicts of 3 countries. I hope that these killers will be punished to the fullest extent of Russian law. You can minus as much as you want, but this is my position.
    1. Dezinto
      Dezinto 22 May 2014 20: 18
      +8
      Yes, not our damn it! NOT OUR! Here you are already a symbol of the provocation that worked! At the expense of Chechnya and similarities and no need to send troops absolutely agree. And about our citizens, well, baaalin, is it still clear if you look closely, what are you ?? They threw the beast of the Nazis and mercenaries into a small detachment of boys on a halt. So right now, such a dregs crawled .......
    2. Tatarus
      Tatarus 22 May 2014 21: 02
      +2
      Our Knight was suddenly not ours? There is a war going on. Armed Forces of Ukraine decided that they are on the side of the junta. Let them now disentangle.
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      1. Turkir
        Turkir 22 May 2014 21: 44
        +3
        A hero without a head is not our hero.
    4. Suhow
      Suhow 23 May 2014 00: 39
      +1
      sho for w .. I = + = set it for sure. Is it really censorship like that? You can’t kill those who didn’t harm you, maybe later some of these soldiers would have fought, but there was a chance that they would at least not follow silly orders and I missed this chance. And speaking of volunteers, I will certainly exaggerate, but remember Chechnya and your attitude to unaunso whose representatives fought there. Among many Ukrainians, the same attitude towards Russian volunteers.
  • zol1
    zol1 22 May 2014 20: 13
    0
    Until the stake, this fascist-Bandera scum will rule his devilish ball!
  • shitovmg
    shitovmg 22 May 2014 20: 15
    +3
    Where are the fighters of the old generations ??? Night sortie, detonation of ammunition with a moderator in the midst of lunch (if they have something to eat), imitation of careless handling of fire, and only one useless pipe remains from the MLRS, or one "frightening" volley ...
  • v245721
    v245721 22 May 2014 20: 18
    +4
    but when it comes to the military, the regular military. that they are not on the way with the Nazis. or after the collapse of the USSR, all real officers became extinct. or brains are overshadowed by fat.
    1. cesar65
      cesar65 22 May 2014 20: 33
      +2
      Quote: v245721
      but when it comes to the military, the regular military. that they are not on the way with the Nazis. or after the collapse of the USSR, all real officers became extinct. or brains are overshadowed by fat.

      Yes, they were told by their SMD (mass disinformation media) that their whole brain was satisfied that everything was arranged. And about this incident they already broadcast that it was the Russian militia who arrived in the Kolomoisky cars and shot the children.
  • todaygoodday
    todaygoodday 22 May 2014 20: 19
    +1
    Then piss off.
  • cesar65
    cesar65 22 May 2014 20: 19
    +5
    Well, the "detachments" appeared. They say they were put on their knees and shot.
    1. Capitalist
      Capitalist 22 May 2014 20: 29
      .
      oh god, where do you read such nonsense? )))
      everything is already painted out normally what was and how
  • MG42
    MG42 22 May 2014 20: 20
    +8
    Judging by the video in the subject, it does not look like a roadblock, rested in a landing, relaxed in the shade, today it is very hot in the East of Ukraine, more than 30 in the Sun.
    As a result, we got two hundredth and three hundredth, corpses on the field i.e. they were retreating from landing >>
    1. pulemetchik_39
      pulemetchik_39 22 May 2014 21: 39
      +2
      They were there for more than a day, see the previous video, where they communicate with local people. Everything is visible there, and the fact that they don’t want to fight, both discipline and lack of experience.
  • Friday
    Friday 22 May 2014 20: 24
    +7
    My video questions are:
    Why didn't the "separatists" take the infantry vehicles?
    Why all the young green guys and not pros?
    1. Capitalist
      Capitalist 22 May 2014 20: 29
      -1
      what is there to pick up? there all the equipment is knocked out

      all the whole equipment that you see in the photo is another troop group that arrived at the battlefield in the afternoon.
    2. Cormorants
      Cormorants 23 May 2014 05: 10
      0
      I agree, if this is not a provocation on the part of the right sector, maybe they want the warrior to have motivation!
  • cesar65
    cesar65 22 May 2014 20: 24
    +4
    Pravoseki continue the "case" of their grandfathers, punitive actions and fight against unarmed people.
  • Petlin
    Petlin 22 May 2014 20: 26
    +3
    Ukrofashisty arrogantly unbelted, making sure that Putin will not help Donbass and Lugansk. But it’s enough to just help - by night, to gouge all the columns and places of dislocation of military equipment. It turns out that NATO can bomb Yugoslavia, Libya, Iraq on far-fetched pretexts, and Russia should watch Russians kill and only pray. Yes, only God - then no, since he admits such barbarism
  • Beccer
    Beccer 22 May 2014 20: 28
    +9
    I read and do not believe my eyes that somewhere this is happening next to Russia. Before, Israel and Palestine didn’t leave the news line, now Ukraine ... is a nightmare, but the West is talking ?! Everything's Alright?! In the course of a long time, all this will continue. I feel sorry for people. sad
    1. homosum20
      homosum20 22 May 2014 20: 57
      +7
      If we do not extinguish this, we will have to regret our families.
      In passing - someone, looking at Israel and Palestine, did not imagine this in Ukraine. Do not be afraid to liberate imagination and freedom of thought.
      1. maks maksimenko
        maks maksimenko 22 May 2014 21: 25
        +1
        we must take weapons to the local population and beat the reptiles to Kiev itself and further .....
    2. VNP1958PVN
      VNP1958PVN 23 May 2014 02: 24
      0
      This will continue until they clear the shale deposits for the Americans.
  • Palych9999
    Palych9999 22 May 2014 20: 29
    0
    The more they crumble each other, they will grow wiser.
    Although this is unlikely, they have such a genesis.
    1. Saratovets
      Saratovets 22 May 2014 20: 59
      +10
      Today I remembered my grandfather, he moved from the White Church near Saratov ... so he always said that the ho holies would pay more ... everyone who wanted a "good" life went there to the USSR, the rent was three times lower, the salary was three times higher, there is meat, you can work less .. and so on. in the USSR, they shouted, including Donbass - we feed Russia .. how it got sick in 1993, they immediately remembered that they were Russians .. now there are those who have always been Russian- People, the rest are creatures who were looking for an easy life in the USSR or their descendants ... they must sip to the fullest in order to get off the couch and become People again!
      1. PM74
        PM74 22 May 2014 21: 51
        +12
        These are Russians. I want to say about the Westerners. At the end of the 80s, I boasted to Rivne region: Well, they say, we’ll run away from Russia, we’ll live. We’ll have everything, we will live better than in Europe. A quarter of a century has passed. The Russians are sitting on our neck, we’ll throw them off, we’ll immediately heal. It seems that they froze not even in the last century, in the last millennium