Defeat under Volnovakha

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Representatives of the people's self-defense of Donetsk report on the ongoing special operation of the Ukrainian law enforcement agencies in the DPR. Today, in the reports, the settlement of Volnovakha sounds more often than others. The Speaker of the Rada Turchinov announced 13 killed by the Ukrainian security forces in the area of ​​this 25-thousandth town in the Donetsk region. Reports about it ITAR-TASS.

Defeat under Volnovakha




Representatives of the Donetsk People's Republic declare 20 killed and more than 40 injured.

On Thursday, the 22 of May, a column of the 51 of a separate motorized brigade of Ukraine, was attacked under Volnovakha and completely destroyed.

Message Ministry of Defense of Ukraine:

Near the town of Volnovakha, ambush terrorists opened massive fire from rifle weapons, hand-held anti-tank grenade launchers and mortars at the roadblock, where servicemen of one of the units of the Ukrainian Armed Forces served. During the shelling, one of the charges hit the combat vehicle, which was at the checkpoint, which caused an explosion of ammunition. There are dead and wounded.


Igor Strelkov's comment on the events in Volnovakha:

I know who worked. I do not consider it a great victory to unexpectedly shoot people who absolutely did not want to fight. But I do not consider them innocent victims either, because sooner or later they would be forced to fight anyway. Cowardice never saved anyone from death. Rather the opposite. These people were too cowardly and passively submissive to somehow evade mobilization. Then they were too cowardly to start a real war. To go to the side of the population, or at least surrender, in order not to fight against the population, they are also cowards (families, etc. "excuses"). As a result, they adopted an "ostrich pose" headlong in the sand, relying on some "separate contractual relations." But there came people who did not know (and did not want to know) about any such “arrangements” and this head seemed to be “cut off”. The wounded were not finished off - sorry.

From the purely military point of view, I do not think that the event will somehow change the balance of power. The defeat of the bloc will have at the same time a demoralizing and mobilizing effect on the enemy. In the next blocks they will prepare for the “meeting”, but the desire to fight for real is unlikely to increase. Maybe, nevertheless, someone will overcome the total stupidity and cowardice in himself and finally decide at least to desert.


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    1. +54
      22 May 2014 19: 27
      They promised and did .. They warned the junta! There is no particular joy, but if you do not understand what to do?
      1. jjj
        +71
        22 May 2014 19: 31
        I heard a comment that the attackers arrived in cars with the symbols of the Kolomoisky Bank. Now the Ukrainian army will start firing at these vehicles without hesitation.
        In general, the Ukrainian ability to put combat vehicles right next to each other is striking. It's like the Brothers Grimm - with one blow of seven
        1. +27
          22 May 2014 19: 34
          "Kotlomoisky" certainly went too far! And soon it will end!
          1. +63
            22 May 2014 19: 40
            All this canoe in order to provoke the use of MLRS in Slavyansk! This was already known from last night! On any night in a sleeping city like Tskhinval !!!! Ahh kapets !!! How do I hate these American ubly ... x fascists!
            1. +6
              23 May 2014 00: 17
              I would like to remind you! They and only they .... Fashington !!!
              To view with the right mouse button and open the image!
              1. +10
                23 May 2014 00: 57
                The guys who died on both sides feel sorry for all civilians who died in Ukraine, because I consider them (if it were not for the collapse of the USSR) to be citizens of one country. The West was able to fulfill Hitler’s plans to embroil fraternal countries, drive a wedge, and dumb the brains of young people and residents of part of Ukraine. this massacre is not happening in Russia, I still think that there is a civil war affecting us, in fact, in Russia. To prevent this from happening in the future, we need to recreate an empire similar to tsarist Russia or the USSR. In each new victim that happened in the countries of the former USSR Gorbachev and Yeltsin are indirectly guilty of allowing the collapse of the USSR for I repeat the USSR did not fall apart. These Ukrainian lads would live, work, raise children and strengthen one homeland-the USSR!
          2. +45
            22 May 2014 19: 43
            In vain, conscripts were shot, the guys were drafted into the army, no one asked them if they wanted to fight. According to the news, the block post took a neutral position, there was no point in their destruction, it was meaningless victims. Sincerely sorry for the guys. We need to wet the Natsik and their owners. But there is nothing to be proud of.
            1. PM74
              +40
              22 May 2014 19: 59
              Strange expression: army block post-neutral position
              1. +29
                22 May 2014 20: 10
                people still do not understand what to hide and sit out will not work .. either for those or for these .. there will be no third .. they are like between a rock and a hard place .. that's just the question .. where it will be more painful .. well and in combat training .. anarchy is the mother of order .. all Ukrainians have it in the blood in the process .. well, I'm afraid .. well, I don’t want to fight .. but prepare the position .. the flight will arrive not childishly .. they still shoot ... what happened .. sorry for the people .. maybe on their example others will learn ..
                1. SSR
                  +9
                  22 May 2014 23: 27
                  Quote: vorchyn_ymka
                  people still do not understand what to hide and sit out does not work ...

                  To my .... Absolutely right, you noticed. The individualism that has been introduced into people's consciousness proves once again its inconsistency, because a close-knit collective of any nickname will break it. But those who believe that their hut will be hidden often become meat, which they want to use as vegetables — they knit their hands, fingers over their nostrils. the head is lifted up and cut. Few people can get out.
                  1. The comment was deleted.
                2. +1
                  23 May 2014 00: 29
                  Well, why isn't the third given? Have you seen the movie "Bumbarash"?
              2. +16
                22 May 2014 20: 35
                It reminds Chechnya, a negotiated village, mother of yours, how many of them died! You don’t want to fight with the people-desert! And you’ll always get under the hand.
              3. Cubit
                +4
                22 May 2014 21: 59
                There’s a lot of strange
              4. 0
                23 May 2014 07: 57
                Don’t judge, let’s not judge, the snotty boys have a mess in their heads, it’s a pity for the stupidly dead.
            2. +38
              22 May 2014 20: 18
              Is this a checkpoint? In my opinion this is a picnic on the side of the road or a parking of sack smugglers. Did they have a commander? And where was he taught? Amazing carelessness !!! Intelligence came to visit them, and they crack biscuits. Whoever interrupted them is their own fault. With such weapons, you can hold on for a day, and they are strangled like kittens. Well, and warriors!
              1. +30
                22 May 2014 20: 46
                To the commander by info. It was 27 years old (((, and no experience. And we must take into account that the military do not understand at all with whom and why they are fighting. This is just "cannon fodder."
                This is a tragedy and these Clowns from Kiev should answer for it.
                1. s1н7т
                  +6
                  22 May 2014 21: 47
                  Quote: Aleksey11
                  Infa Commander. 27 years old was (((

                  So age has nothing to do with it. I will not remind Gaidar, who at the age of 16 commanded a regiment, they say. With me, in the SA, the commanders in 22-25 gave out such a thing, which is nice and expensive! Moreover - from Rivne and Kiev, in the sense. Either they’re taught wrong now, or the guys have no motivation. I hope the second.
                  1. -3
                    23 May 2014 02: 57
                    Quote: c1n7
                    Gaidar, who at the age of 16 commanded a regiment, they say.

                    Let me clarify one point, yes, he commanded a regiment, BUT WHAT ?! PUNISHING !!!!!
                    1. 0
                      27 May 2014 07: 17
                      I’m just wondering, and who was the one who made me the worst? Dunno. Arkady Petrovich Gaidar (Golikov) at the beginning of the 20s of the 20th century commanded the 58th separate regiment for the fight against banditry, that is - PUNISHMENT. Who minus, let him study history, or, in extreme cases, read Wikipedia. hi
                      1. 0
                        27 May 2014 13: 35
                        Quote: papik09
                        who has me minus?

                        Including hi
                        If anything, then after your second post.
                2. vedross
                  +6
                  22 May 2014 21: 54
                  The answer should be those who shot them. If these are fighters of the DPR, it’s worthless, this checkpoint did not pose any threat and not Bandera were on it.
                  1. +22
                    22 May 2014 22: 06
                    Infa has already passed that they were the soldiers of Kolomoisky, on the armored cars of Privatbank. After they worked off with grenade launchers, as one of the survivors said, they pointedly put on George ribbons, said that they were protecting the Donbass and began to shoot where they hit - both at people and around, but they did not finish off everyone, gathered and left. Further, helicopter gunships of Ukraine hit the same point, which also affected these soldiers (yes, what partisan soldiers at the training camp!). In short - another provocation with the shooting of their own. One of the surviving officers did not allow his face to be removed, and said that these attackers were not local, came from Dnepropetrovsk
                    1. +5
                      23 May 2014 00: 48
                      Quote: andj61
                      another provocation with the shooting of his

                      All junta provocations - at the end of the week, usually on Fridays - dispersal of the onslaught, stuffing of the face of Chornovol, Dima Ukho, etc. For that. in order to have time to unwind, God forgive me, dolbostuk on the weekend. Today is Thursday, we need to untwist the horror about the DPR until sunday elections, so the provocation is a little earlier. And you can immediately see whose ears stick out from behind the curtains, like on holidays in Odessa and Mariupol. I hate !!!
                    2. +6
                      23 May 2014 01: 28
                      It’s a pity for the guys ... my countrymen, after all, from Volyn ... 9 guys from Vladimir-Volynsky. Well, why shoot them, they were sitting in the third ring of the cordon, all the more they refused to lay them on the people.
                      1. +5
                        23 May 2014 03: 36
                        Quote: Koresh
                        It’s a pity for the guys ... my countrymen, after all, from Volyn ... 9 guys from Vladimir-Volynsky. Well, why shoot them, they were sitting in the third ring of the cordon, all the more they refused to lay them on the people.


                        Klomoisky address these questions and all sorts of maydauns from Kiev - why the hell did they shoot their own army men ?!
                      2. +1
                        23 May 2014 05: 11
                        It’s still not clear what Strelkov said, he doesn’t know who did this, maybe a provocation from the side of the right-wingers!
                    3. 0
                      23 May 2014 01: 51
                      WHERE is the information about helicopters.?
                      1. Mikado
                        0
                        24 May 2014 10: 28
                        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGcwrApxHos
                3. SSR
                  +5
                  22 May 2014 23: 33
                  Quote: Aleksey11
                  To the commander by info. It was 27 years old (((, and no experience. And we must take into account that the military do not understand at all with whom and why they are fighting. This is just "cannon fodder."
                  This is a tragedy and these Clowns from Kiev should answer for it.

                  + This is a tragedy. Those who impersonate power must answer. Imha. The army should not rebel for Russia, not for ubrointegration, but for the PEOPLE! That would decide without blood how he wants and how the country will live, **********
                4. philip
                  +3
                  23 May 2014 00: 17
                  This is a tragedy and these Clowns from Kiev should answer for it.
                  The tragedy is Odessa, and this is war.
                5. 0
                  23 May 2014 00: 23
                  The question is, who really cleaned up the tourists?
                6. 0
                  24 May 2014 12: 39
                  No need to justify them. They didn’t want to fight - there was nothing to leave the points of permanent deployment. And we left - decide. We didn’t decide - we got it.
              2. Gorko
                -33
                22 May 2014 21: 37
                Is this a checkpoint? In my opinion this is a picnic on the side of the road or a parking of sack smugglers. Did they have a commander? And where was he taught? Amazing carelessness !!! Intelligence came to visit them, and they crack biscuits. Whoever interrupted them is their own fault. With such weapons, you can hold on for a day, and they are strangled like kittens. Well, and warriors!


                Who taught them, and you remember the war in Chechnya, no one taught them either. There is no army in Ukraine. It’s a pity for the guys, and the militias turned into terrorists.
                1. 0
                  25 May 2014 05: 36
                  Quote: GORKO
                  It’s a pity for the guys, and the militias turned into terrorists.

                  Tell us about pity for the inhabitants of Odessa, Mariupol.
              3. +2
                22 May 2014 21: 48
                I agree with some remarks. All the same, they are involved in the ATO. You want peace, get ready for war, they said earlier.
              4. Cubit
                +4
                22 May 2014 22: 08
                Commander in my opinion. Maybe I'm mistaken, but by the faces it is clear that they didn’t come to fight, hence the carelessness. They killed them in vain. Would take away the trunks, kick in the ass and at home. But, commander - for sure.
            3. +17
              22 May 2014 20: 19
              Boris Rozhin:
              The soldiers were ordered to crush the resistance. They refused to shoot people, and in the end they were punished, says a source at the headquarters of the self-defense command. According to the interlocutor, this was a punitive operation ordered by the oligarch Igor Kolomoisky, owner of Privatbank, known for funding protests on the Maidan and paying remuneration to the Right Sector fighters. The Ukrainian military tried to provide resistance to the attackers, but those were supported by armored vehicles and military helicopters. One of the shells fired by the BMP during the shootout ended up in the ammunition depot. The blast injured at least 35 people and killed 15 soldiers.
              http://www.iarex.ru/articles/48031.html
            4. +11
              22 May 2014 20: 39
              They are what Switzerland, they saw the neutrality of those. Now it can’t be, either you are with or against Natsik. They didn’t want to shoot people, they would surrender to the militia of the DPR. And then eat the fish and x .. sit down and do not choke on the bones. So we got bones for the most do not indulge.
            5. +5
              22 May 2014 21: 20
              How - "there is nothing to be proud of"? and what would happen tomorrow if the scales swung in the other direction? Where would these warriors go with their armored personnel carriers? EVERYTHING IS FINE. IN WAR - AS IN WAR.
              Please answer - somewhere other than Ukraine, have you heard - "to her - to knives" or "yak - to gilyak" ??? Get everyone wet.
              1. +1
                22 May 2014 23: 36
                How - "there is nothing to be proud of"? and what would happen tomorrow if the scales swung in the other direction? Where would these warriors go with their armored personnel carriers? EVERYTHING IS FINE. IN WAR - LIKE IN WAR.
                Please answer - somewhere other than Ukraine, have you heard - "to her - to knives" or "yak - to gilyak" ??? Get everyone wet.

                Unexpected clarifications from Strelkova:
                An important comment by Igor Ivanovich Strelkov on the destruction of the National Guard post in the n. Volnovaha

                summer56
                May 22nd, 21: 26

                In a previous post, Igor Ivanovich gave a fairly detailed commentary on
                the destruction of the checkpoint in the village Volnovakha.

                http://summer56.livejournal.com/119139.html

                The people had several questions, I would even say doubts.
                Based on the information of Igor Ivanovich, it turns out that the DPR militias took advantage of military cunning and ingenuity! Using an armored car with the symbols of Privatbank, namely such armored cars are used by Kolomoisky’s militants, DNR militias were able to actually enter the National Guard post and use heavy fire from a minimum distance to destroy enemy forces.

                First question. And where did the people's militia forces get this Privatbank armored car?
                Answer by Igor Ivanovich:

                "From Gorlovka."

                Let me remind you that Igor Gorlovka has a strong garrison in Gorlovka, led by Lieutenant Colonel Sergei Anatolyevich Zdrilyuk.

                And then the second question arises. If the block post is destroyed by the DNR militia forces, then why
                after its destruction it was "ironed" by attack helicopters? Does the DPR have helicopters?
                DNR still has no attack helicopters. These were Ukrainian helicopters!

                Why did they "iron" the positions of their own checkpoint?

                Guys! It's elementary! A very significant percentage of losses in the war from the so-called. "friendly fire"!
                "Friendly fire" is when, due to a lack of coordination of actions of various units, lack of communication, etc., etc. one unit inflicts fire on another unit of its own forces!
                This is especially common in art. air strikes and strikes.

                The second point in this particular case. The leaders of the ATO are very afraid that the militia will get more armored vehicles. Everyone knows how Igor Ivanovich skillfully uses the entire 6 BMD captured by him in the city of Slavyansk. Therefore, perhaps the purpose of this airstrike was to disable the armored vehicles of the checkpoint so that it would not get to the militias. The MI-24 helicopter damaged by the militia (actually shot down) would also have been destroyed. Only in that case, the riflemen managed to remove all the necessary weapons and their controls. In more detail about that case:

                http://summer56.livejournal.com/97102.html

                That was my comment. And now read the commentary by Igor Ivanovchia:

                "What's surprising then? We arrived late and struck where (as they thought) the enemy was still located. And there were only their unfinished ones ... And the Privatbank armored car, knocked out during the battle and thrown by the attackers. Possibly losses as a result, ours have a lot added. But here I cannot say. "

                So I urge you to include brains in the analysis of information. And do not rush to publish your smart thoughts,
                not knowing the actual information from the field.
                http://summer56.livejournal.com/2014/05/22/
            6. Gorko
              -34
              22 May 2014 21: 33
              In vain, conscripts were shot, the guys were drafted into the army, no one asked them if they wanted to fight. According to the news, the block post took a neutral position, there was no point in their destruction, it was meaningless victims. Sincerely sorry for the guys. We need to wet the Natsik and their owners. But there is nothing to be proud of.


              I agree ... Militias are turning into terrorists.
              1. PM74
                +22
                22 May 2014 22: 07
                It’s not true. This is not terror. This is a transition to guerrilla actions. Terror is when the metro is blown up, houses, planes, schools, cinemas are captured. The rivals are killed (usually unarmed). they can fight back. Donbass has few trained soldiers. Now they will find and hit the weakest points of the Ukrainian army. This is the basis of guerrilla warfare. As experience develops, believe me, with the necessary support, attacks on more trained units will become more frequent.
                1. -3
                  22 May 2014 23: 12
                  Quote: PM74
                  A terror is when subways are blown up, houses, planes, schools, cinemas seize.

                  Pavel, maybe Chechen fighters who ambush Russian military convoys and roadblocks are also partisans? Your comment goes like this: it’s because the anti-terrorist operation was also announced in Chechnya, and it worked the same way for your security forces.
                  1. +10
                    22 May 2014 23: 31
                    Pavel, maybe Chechen fighters who ambush Russian military convoys and checkpoints are also partisans?
                    But what about the Chechen fighters already in Chechnya mass support of the people? Is Chechnya opposed to its presence as a subject within the Russian Federation? Held a referendum and ready to secede? why didn’t I understand the comparison
                    1. Gorko
                      +1
                      23 May 2014 12: 18
                      But what about the Chechen fighters already in Chechnya mass support of the people? Is Chechnya opposed to its presence as a subject within the Russian Federation? Held a referendum and ready to secede? why didn’t I understand the comparison

                      remember the story of 20 years ago.
                    2. +3
                      23 May 2014 19: 49
                      Quote: lukke
                      But what about the Chechen fighters already in Chechnya mass support of the people?

                      Just the same, the first phase of the Chechen company was held in the same way. The local referendum (contrary to the Constitution of the Russian Federation, the organization of illegal armed groups, the seizure of military units, the total armament of the local population, war, ambush, terrorist attacks). And the people who led these actions had the absolute support of the local population .Without the support of the local population, such actions end with the second phase of the Chechen campaign.
                      P.S. Did everyone forget so quickly? After all, only 20 years have passed with a little. what
                      1. Gorko
                        0
                        24 May 2014 14: 56
                        P.S. Did everyone forget so quickly? After all, only 20 years have passed with a little.

                        The local pseudo-patriots have such a short memory that they forget what happened yesterday, they in all seriousness consider Kadyrov both younger and older to be the hero, and they don’t remember that they killed the Russians; honestly, their memory is short, "goldfish syndrome."
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                  3. PM74
                    +4
                    23 May 2014 00: 32
                    Once again, I’ll answer, even if I pick up the minuses. Yes, it was a guerrilla war (with many exceptions, Beslan, Kizlyar, Volgograd, Moscow, etc., there were many, these are classical terrorist attacks) Yes, they (the militants) were supported by the local population (Without this, there can be no guerrilla war. There are many truths in the world — they had it, we had it. There was cruelty on both sides. But here’s what Russia, it managed to agree with some of them (I don’t want to explain why they they went for it). We tried to forget everything that was before that. In short, very combat-ready detachments came to our side. Basically, which, with our help, won the war. It was very scary, it was very cruel. And now there restlessly, but civilians, at least, are dying much less. Moreover, Chechnya is trying to restore production, attracting specialists (not only Russians).
                    1. PM74
                      0
                      23 May 2014 00: 43
                      I wanted to say, specialists are specialists in industrial production. Not military
                  4. +6
                    23 May 2014 01: 58
                    alone
                    1. Worked not exactly the same.
                    2. Chechen "partisans" by the time our troops arrived there, destroyed at least about 60 thousand Russian-speaking ... Even according to the archival data of the Dudayev Ministry of Internal Affairs for the period from January 94 to December 94, 23 thousand murders were recorded ... and I suppose you know how murders can be recorded ... so that they do not look like murders ... but even so - in less than a year - 23 thousand men, children and women ... what did they do with the rest - don't even say I want to ... but you know about this ... does it mean anything to you? So, in Ukraine - the same thing - analogues of the Chechen religious fascists - Ukrainian neo-Nazis, came to power by force ... and they kill dissent in the same way. only not as intensely as Nokhchi ..... the degree of legitimacy of the leadership of free Ichkeria does not differ from the degree of legitimacy of the current Ukrainian junta ..... and they kill in the same way, it's just that self-styled people are less often - not used to it .... real anti-terrorists are those who resist them ....
                    Sorry, but you can’t be so hypocritical ... too much ...
                    1. PM74
                      0
                      23 May 2014 02: 18
                      Dear smile, about what you say is not terror, it is genocide, in its purest form. Nobody, unfortunately, recognizes this. And our authorities, led by Putin too. But, answer the question: Do you want them like that how to answer? Cut one half. to kick the other out? Forgive me, but they were also cut, God forbid. And it’s not yet a fact of anyone else who died. They didn’t count. But I agree with you, they, the Chechens, have not yet received, what follows.
                      1. +1
                        23 May 2014 10: 54
                        PM74
                        About the genocide of the Russian population in Chechnya it was necessary to speak in the first Chechen ... when our ... media called us federals. In the second question they chewed languidly and did not aggravate ... and our authorities, "led by Putin," did the right thing, in my opinion. Since I do not consider it possible to oskotin to such an extent as to sink to the level of the Czech comrades ... and put up with them. knowing that they were doing quite recently ... to put it mildly, difficult ... people would not understand ...
                        But this is all the lyrics, I was outraged by the comparison of bloodshot civilians on the ears of Chechens with anti-fascists in Ukraine ....
                    2. PM74
                      +2
                      23 May 2014 02: 44
                      He didn’t fully answer. It was all about Chechnya. I don’t argue about the legitimacy of the Ukrop authorities, they simply do not have words (no Hague, only the gallows)
                    3. +1
                      23 May 2014 19: 44
                      Quote: smile
                      By the time our troops arrived there, Chechen "partisans" had destroyed at least about 60 thousand Russian-speaking ... Even according to the archival data of the Dudayev Ministry of Internal Affairs for the period from January 94 to December 94, 23 thousand murders were recorded ...

                      From your words, it turns out that 60 thousand Russians were also killed in Ukraine. Vladimir, I considered you and I still consider you an adequate person. Why talk about black white? Until a shooter with his own people appeared in Donetsk, no one killed anyone! You think Gubarev and pisulin will be able to manage with such an area as Donetsk? MMM-schik and the failed Santa Claus are ready to take responsibility for 4 million people who until recently lived on mining unprofitable coal, minus the production was covered by the budget of Ukraine. , for example, in Konstantinovka, they took control of the plant, started exporting equipment to sell it all, they need money for the viability of the DNR. protection of the Russian population "!!!
                      P.S. I know, right now the minuses will fly like flies on something. On the drum. To tell the truth, it would be so bitter, it’s always nice and honors a person !! Unlike some who are so drugged with their ambitions that they are ready to put up cat - black leopard !!
                      1. +1
                        23 May 2014 20: 06
                        Quote: lonely
                        .Tell the truth, so it would not be bitter, it’s always nice and does honor to a person !!

                        Can't you praise yourself ?!
                        Quote: lonely
                        ready to make the cat black Leopard !!

                        I heard about the Pink Panther, that's about the black Leopard, alas!
                        Quote: lonely
                        Until the shooter appeared in Donetsk

                        If you walk along the chain, then Almighty himself is on the edge _ Well, why did he create Adam ...
                        1. -1
                          23 May 2014 22: 09
                          Quote: Cynic
                          Can't you praise yourself ?!


                          To tell the truth is not bragging! But distortion of facts for its own benefit is a disease. It is called insanity! unfortunately not subject to treatment!
                        2. +1
                          24 May 2014 06: 42
                          Quote: lonely
                          distortion of facts for its own benefit is a disease. called insanity!

                          Your aplomb and the depth of knowledge are amazing!
                          MARASMUS (from the Greek. marasmos — loss of strength, exhaustion), exhaustion, withering of the body.

                          request
                  5. +3
                    23 May 2014 02: 11
                    Urgent repost! It may have already appeared. Natsikov is extinguished by his own helicopters near Volnovakha (DPR). I think it doesn’t need a translation. The DNI has no turntables. If you know how, then repost on foreign sites.
                    1. 0
                      25 May 2014 05: 44
                      wanted to watch, but "the video is not available because the You Tube account associated with it has been deleted." That's it. recourse
              2. +1
                22 May 2014 22: 09
                I saw on TV that they were not conscripts, but called up for training, one of the officers said. Although, whoever understands there ...
                1. +6
                  23 May 2014 00: 14
                  Mobilized, it was possible to "jump", who did not want to, he did not go.
                  Now I'm waiting for "orev" on all media channels of Ukraine
                  "Snot" now "you will not get around", "will carry" a week ..
              3. Andrei Forge 67
                +3
                22 May 2014 22: 19
                They showed you that this is the right-winger of the Kolomoyts. What is not clear!
              4. +2
                23 May 2014 00: 18
                what nafig terror, this is war. militias at home !! At home, and not at a party ... and do not attack but actively defend ...
              5. Consmo
                +4
                23 May 2014 00: 32
                They came with a sword to a foreign land. Men with weapons in their hands.
                When they climb into your house, into the yard, with weapons, the argument that the kebab came to eat in your garden does not work. They will be forced and they will burn your house, explaining that they do not want, they have families and so on.
                Fascists in 41 were also from workers and peasants, they were also mobilized.
                Do not give up destroy you.
                It's just that men's games have been going on for several millennia.
                Snot here do not wipe.
              6. 0
                23 May 2014 02: 11
                Urgent repost! It may have already appeared. Natsikov is extinguished by his own helicopters near Volnovakha (DPR). I think it doesn’t need a translation. The DNI has no turntables. If you know how, then repost on foreign sites.
            7. +6
              22 May 2014 21: 35
              Quote: TEODOR
              no one asked them if they wanted to fight

              When you do not want to fight, then surrender to "captivity". But when you have a machine gun in your hands, no one will play nice with you, at least because of the machine gun in your hands. First, they looked at the "Maidan" as a picture from an exhibition, then they took them "Sniff Eggs" from the Nazis. Among the Nazis in the Second World War, there were also old people who did not want to fight, but they are also to blame for the deaths of millions of people throughout Europe.
              1. Consmo
                +1
                23 May 2014 00: 36
                I agree completely.
            8. 0
              22 May 2014 21: 37
              and they, call them cowards, if they call me, I’m from Kiev, will I shoot right-to-left, and here and there people, and deserting, surrendering, and so on, is there really a way out? And the question is not how it is taken at home and how to cope with your conscience, yourselves.! If you fight from those who were sent, then with volunteers and those who are fighting. And in this case, the attackers only set up the majority of those mobilized against themselves, I'm talking about neutral people. I’m very sorry about what happened, and the reason for the new government once again go out ...
              1. saramb
                +4
                22 May 2014 22: 00
                that’s how they were rasped, the people of the Kolomian, with the support of the turntables, and whose are they? They ordered their own egg-laying and turkish.
              2. +3
                22 May 2014 22: 12
                The attackers were provocateurs of Kolomoisky. They needed to specially pit the army and people. Not in vain, Turchinov announced yesterday that the ATO is moving into the final phase. I needed a reason to boost the army. That's how they could, so this reason was organized!
            9. +5
              22 May 2014 21: 38
              Nehru chew snot. took the gun be ready to die
              1. +1
                23 May 2014 00: 19
                +1
                I agree completely!
            10. +2
              22 May 2014 21: 53
              Quote: TEODOR
              In vain, conscripts were shot, guys were drafted into the army, no one asked them if they wanted to fight

              The guys certainly feel sorry, but war is war, or you or you, unfortunately the only way!
            11. Andrei Forge 67
              +3
              22 May 2014 22: 15
              Yes, Natsik killed them to incite hatred on the armored vehicles of the collector’s armored vehicles and they added bastards from helicopters !!!!
            12. xan
              +2
              22 May 2014 23: 26
              Quote: TEODOR
              Sincerely sorry for the guys. We need to wet the Natsik and their owners. But there is nothing to be proud of.

              It is full of information that they were crumbled by hunter fighters for refusing to clean the town, including the local ones. And the militia has no helicopters.
            13. +2
              23 May 2014 00: 00
              Well nafik.
              Going into the army of the SA, I perfectly understood, I can not return. Anything can happen.
              Moreover, military operations, especially a checkpoint. "Fools" were standing there, did not understand that they could shoot? And they are no longer "on their" territory?
              Everything about the case.
              1. +4
                23 May 2014 00: 40
                In the course there was half a rotation of motorized rifles 4 BMP2 2 KAMAZ support. Probably the staff shishiga the field kitchen and the commander’s UAZ on TV heard about the anti-aircraft gun, the truth is not visible in the frame. The feeling is that the guys came for a picnic. The commander is just a complete sucker. Arrange combat vehicles like this? Do not set up security? To let a person with a camera into the block post? A campaign at their company military school somewhere in Zimbambwe oh graduated. 27 years is at least Captain. He flashed everything and laid down his guys. Because there is a feeling that professional people have enlisted this picnic, and it’s not for nothing that the guards were there.
                1. PM74
                  0
                  23 May 2014 00: 57
                  Remember the beginning of Chechnya, they have an army there in the same condition. But I don’t understand how they didn’t crush the Donbass with such a quantitative and, nevertheless, qualitative (presence of heavy weapons) advantage.
            14. +5
              23 May 2014 03: 31


              It’s not the militias who destroyed the post ... it’s Natsik and the mercenaries who planted a knife in the back. And then also ukrov helicopters finished off them ...
              why it’s all blown up is done for sure, but it can be assumed that it was most likely an act of intimidation for the Ukrainian army. Since in the opinion of Kiev scumbags, the soldiers are not fighting zealously enough with their own people.
              And the Strelka comment given in this article is supposedly a fake. The simple desire of the maydanut to blame the crime on the militias.
              1. +3
                23 May 2014 06: 52
                Quote: Hammer
                why is it all blundered for sure is unclear

                Yes, everything here is clear, like God's day.
                The troops so far do not want to clean up civilians, and right-wingers do not yet know how.
                And in order to incite the army to the people, to arrange a full-fledged genocide and civil war, they carry out such operations.
                Strelkov and other self-proclaimed republics are by no means in the first place. The goal of true puppeteers is Russia, to kindle a fire on its borders, and then to throw firebrands on the territory. Ukraine will explode, Russia will detonate, since the peoples are brotherly, the language is the same.
                Therefore, they provoke as much as they can, create total chaos. For their last adyk, diligent students can rejoice, but they just finish completely
                .
              2. 0
                23 May 2014 12: 12
                I ukroSMI:

                http://ura.dn.ua/23.05.2014/156789.html
            15. UPStoyan
              +1
              23 May 2014 08: 38
              A surname list of the wounded appeared on the Web, of 35 people, not one was born in 1994-1996, all over 20 and closer to 30, so there was no smell of conscripts there. Rather reservists.
            16. 0
              24 May 2014 12: 36
              There can be no neutral position in the area of ​​hostilities. Especially in people with weapons. Or on the side of the Natsiks, or together with the militia.
          3. raf
            +6
            22 May 2014 20: 56
            Quote: asar
            "Kotlomoisky"

            Not "Kotlomoisky", but "okolopomoisky", it will be more accurate!
            1. +4
              22 May 2014 21: 40
              Quote: raf
              Quote: asar
              "Kotlomoisky"

              Not "Kotlomoisky", but "okolopomoisky", it will be more accurate!

              Or "cattle, s, garbage"
          4. GRANATE-19
            +7
            22 May 2014 21: 26
            Quote: asar
            "Kotlomoisky" certainly went too far! And soon it will end!

            I support. KALAMoskin - must find his hemp!

            But why are the troops of the RUSSIAN ARMY withdrawn from the borders?
            I don’t understand, right now the Nazis are aggressively attacking more and more settlements, and the president is not responding!
            I can’t express my feelings, I know in my own skin what it is to wait for help - in the war every minute is expensive, but here the troops withdraw. I do not propose to send troops into the self-proclaimed republics, but they need help: instructors, weapons, equipment, ammunition, medicines and medical staff ...
            Dear VLADIMIR VLADIMIROVICH help the brothers!
            1. Palych9999
              -3
              22 May 2014 22: 00
              What are you fomenting?
              It’s not there, huh? If your hands itch like that
              Their "audience" also goes to work, and peels seeds, looking out of the windows, and does not rush to us in a crowd ...
              If we ourselves don’t need them, then what are they for us?
              By winter, they themselves will half through each other, and there - it will be seen
            2. Palych9999
              -5
              22 May 2014 22: 00
              What are you fomenting?
              It’s not there, huh? If your hands itch like that
              Their "audience" also goes to work, and peels seeds, looking out of the windows, and does not rush to us in a crowd ...
              If we ourselves don’t need them, then what are they for us?
              By winter, they themselves will half through each other, and there - it will be seen
            3. PM74
              +1
              23 May 2014 01: 36
              And it’s better not to send in troops. And to do in the western direction: Hit them from the air, and missiles. Well and, of course, declare a no-fly zone. Something they had helicopters flying there
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          6. +2
            22 May 2014 21: 53
            Yes, to be exact - a small moosha am
        2. capitalist
          -18
          22 May 2014 20: 16
          Kolomoisk collector cars are also popular among militias. It’s easier to get them than armored vehicles, but there’s some sense. Recently, according to rumors, about two dozen were stolen.
          1. IvanT
            +5
            22 May 2014 20: 40
            Primate, turn on the brain !!!
          2. +16
            22 May 2014 20: 59
            Quote: Capitalist
            Kolomoisk collector cars are also popular among militias. It’s easier to get them than armored vehicles, but there’s some sense. Recently, according to rumors, about two dozen were stolen.

            Do the militias have MI24 too? Wash you somewhere in the wrong place!
            1. +1
              23 May 2014 00: 29
              15 cars were reportedly taken away from Kolomoisky, the numbers were shown on a TV-type, where they saw let me know ... but for some reason 7 were shown.
              We really have all the ATMs and banks of Kolomoisky "unpacked".
              Today they blocked the salary card. The listed salary cannot be removed.
              I think it's true.
              1. +2
                23 May 2014 01: 29
                Regarding the stolen cash collection vehicles

            2. 0
              23 May 2014 00: 44
              And who stole it? And maybe there was still loot?
            3. capitalist
              0
              23 May 2014 11: 30
              Vasya, the battle was at night! At 4 in the morning! A helicopter attack shot at noon! And everything was already painted on this helicopter - he finished off the abandoned equipment so that no one would get it. He finished it off, so they barely managed to hide theirs .. and that's it .. And then some kind of snowstorm was fanned.
          3. nalim
            +3
            22 May 2014 21: 07
            it's time for Benya to "knives"!
            1. GRANATE-19
              0
              23 May 2014 22: 24
              Quote: nalim
              it's time for Benya to "knives"!

              It’s time for this shv @ l co with your own b @ yam ... la - grief collectors for the rule ...
              (they dishonor the profession!)
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          4. +4
            22 May 2014 21: 43
            Well, yes, they are throwing them with open doors on the street, and they also turn off the engine and door lock. I pressed the button and the hijackers are exactly the same as in the armored safe. Only now is there a safe somewhere to unlock from the inside.
          5. +6
            22 May 2014 22: 15
            Quote: Capitalist
            Kolomoisk collector cars are also popular among militias. It’s easier to get them than armored vehicles, but there’s some sense. Recently, according to rumors, about two dozen were stolen.
            That's right, but these rumors appeared today, after the attack. We must try to otmazatsya! But 11.05. there was already an attack, in my opinion on Krasnoarmeysk, when two people were shot dead right in front of the polling station. Then, too, arrived in the same cars from Dnepropetrovsk too.
            1. +2
              22 May 2014 23: 39
              That's right, but these rumors appeared today, after the attack.
              Everything at the junta’s level of rumors, and hundreds of saboteurs are caught, and cities are being liberated from terrorists, and they are fighting with might and main, carefully hiding that Russia did not show up for war, and the condom will soon be popularly and almost unanimously chosen
            2. +1
              23 May 2014 00: 32
              Yes. That's for sure. They were incognitive.
        3. +2
          22 May 2014 21: 27
          Quote: jjj
          put combat vehicles back to back

          This is not an army, this is a gypsy camp. Apparently they decided that they were not holding BMP 2, but "Tigers" with 80 mm armor. To set up a camp next to the road, not to set up posts, even if you were not going to fight ... then you would immediately surrender to the "captivity" than to stand like that. It is clear that you feel sorry for people ... but if you were mobilized, then you need to decide how to protect your life ... even from the Pravosek people, even from the bank. But Privat Bank should be boycotted.
        4. +29
          22 May 2014 21: 40
          Women of Slavyansk
          1. +4
            23 May 2014 00: 19
            Lord save mercy
          2. 0
            23 May 2014 00: 46
            What I like about the children of the USSR is healthy cynicism. Although actually sad girls!
        5. timer
          +3
          22 May 2014 23: 21
          I would be glad to hear the news that the soldiers of the Donbas militia ripped off Kolomoisky’s eggs. The guys hold on and attack the Kiev scum more actively!
        6. 0
          23 May 2014 02: 54
          Quote: jjj
          with the symbols of the bank of Kolomoisky

          And Mr. Kedmi said, however, that the Jews who made the WRONG decision about the events in Ukraine will answer with their ASS am
      2. +11
        22 May 2014 19: 41
        Quote: MIKHAN
        They promised and did .. They warned the junta! There is no particular joy, but if you do not understand what to do?

        Vitaly agrees! No joy. Nobody called them, and the compulsion to fight against their will is not understandable at all. For what do they die? I'm talking about the Ukrop army, right-wing scumbags and mercenaries as a separate topic. What will happen after May 25? And will the newly-minted president throw out the "Bandera" troops with renewed vigor? When will this moralism end, or when at least in the southeast will the whole people realize and rise? How long will there be enough people like Shooters? True heroes and defenders of the people from the Nazis!
        1. +4
          22 May 2014 20: 36
          Let's remember how the Chechens were pacified. They just bought them. They found the leader, shot some of the militants and showered dollars. But this is Russia. But will America be able to roll? This is the question. They only know how to receive. And to spend without a guarantee to get back the many times spent -oh, as they do not know how and do not want to. Wait and see. And they buy better than even Chechens. And, given the fact that the Russians there are peppered with Natsiks, and quite abundantly, blood cannot be avoided there. And the shooting of this checkpoint looks like an "event" frightening the clinkers of the Moishe and the pastor of Satan.
          1. +8
            22 May 2014 21: 28
            Quote: tolian
            But can America sprinkle?

            I personally, as a taxpayer and a voter, are categorically against it. And, according to my observation, the majority of Russian-speaking Americans, except for Ukrainians (not Jews) - immigrants from Western regions, are also against it. But unfortunately, the majority of American voters receive the bulk of information from television channels, and they, with rare exceptions, are in the hands of liberals. So in the bottom line we have Obama (or rather, he has taxpayers).
            negative
          2. +1
            22 May 2014 21: 50
            Quote: tolian
            how the Chechens calmed down

            Quote: tolian
            "event" frightening clinkers kAlo of moishe and pastor of Satan

            Of course, I respect the opinions of others or the malaise of consciousness, but for these two phrases worthy of the Nazi, I am unsuccessful.
          3. xan
            0
            22 May 2014 23: 30
            Quote: tolian
            They just bought them

            Before buying, the Chechens were shown the immediate future prospects in a better world. And the smart ones agreed right away, because other smarts stood in line to agree.
          4. PM74
            +1
            23 May 2014 05: 33
            Everything is much more complicated. And not like you: bought, sold, dumped dollars. It’s not possible to buy a people. You can buy a part of the elite that will lead the most radical elements. The people will figure it out anyway, sooner or later
      3. +28
        22 May 2014 19: 55
        Actually, it was a provocation. The army has not yet taken part in ATO. The Nazis are trying to force the army to fight in this way. Before commenting, it is advisable to read the article and video. Three minutes for an article + video is not enough.
        1. +7
          22 May 2014 19: 59
          Quote: a52333
          Actually, it was a provocation. The army has not yet taken part in ATO. The Nazis are trying to force the army to fight in this way. Before commenting, it is advisable to read the article and video. Three minutes for an article + video is not enough.

          I thought so too until I read Streltsov's comment.
          1. +5
            22 May 2014 22: 20
            Yes, Strelkov himself did not know a damn about it when he commented. He was told only about the fact. This is a clear provocation! Helicopters finished off the soldier!
            1. 0
              23 May 2014 00: 04
              Helicopters finished off the soldier!
              and where is the logic? Everyone could immediately solve them to the last collectors, but they didn’t, because they also needed the living, who would later tell everyone about the St. George ribbons on the trunks of machine guns shooting! Because this super-operation could take place under the organization and leadership of a narrow circle of people - crocodile pilots might not have known what was going on on the block, visually looked - the equipment was burned, corpses, well, we thought - from your own in such a picture you can hardly see who is alive is messing around !? (all the camouflages are the same — or rather, different as the entire range of NATO is in one place), which means that the militias probably collect trophies - but just in case, I dyke a dick and look at the reaction. Pa-pa-pa ... Oh! Like ours, flew to report ...
              1. +3
                23 May 2014 00: 54
                About geogiev tapes on the trunks of machine guns this is certainly the height of criticism. It is a pity the guys accidentally forgot a couple of three Russian tricolors and did not drop the FSB and GRU certificates somewhere under the birch. Although the inscription Spartak - the champion on board the burnt BTR2 would definitely show where the legs grow from
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        2. +6
          22 May 2014 21: 02
          Quote: a52333
          Actually, it was a provocation. The army has not yet taken part in ATO. The Nazis are trying to force the army to fight in this way. Before commenting, it is advisable to read the article and video. Three minutes for an article + video is not enough.

          If provocative, then the stupid word of mouth in the army was always on top! Find out the details right away.
        3. +4
          22 May 2014 21: 23
          HERE IS ALL UNDERSTANDING. NEW NOTHING. ALL THE SAME.

          But, someone will explain, but officers in the army of Ukraine in general, or not ??? Do they remember what honor is? Bandits come and fly (!!!) and clean up the army !!!! What is it like? And do they continue to serve?
          1. +1
            23 May 2014 00: 42
            Nobody wants to fight. There are no enthusiasts "with bundles of grenades" for tanks.
            There are some "bodies" who do not care and "for the loot", of course, and not small, fucking with impunity on the Maidan. Show an "example" for newcomers to "blame" everyone and everything.
        4. +4
          22 May 2014 21: 54
          if it was a provocation, and the military will establish the truth, then the kapets will come to the provocateurs. There are also many smart people among the military.
        5. 0
          23 May 2014 02: 13
          Urgent repost! It may have already appeared. Natsikov is extinguished by his own helicopters near Volnovakha (DPR). I think it doesn’t need a translation. The DNI has no turntables. If you know how, then repost on foreign sites.
      4. +7
        22 May 2014 20: 03
        Here's how turntables work to finish off the 51st Brigade checkpoint.


        1. capitalist
          +1
          22 May 2014 20: 14
          what finishing? you figure it out first in the situation then write ..
          the detachment was destroyed early in the morning .. at about 4 in the morning. turntables in this video - they destroyed the attacked BMD that was knocked out already at night and abandoned. and that’s it. only one rocket is fired in this video. everything else is heat trap.
          1. +4
            22 May 2014 21: 02
            Quote: Capitalist
            what finishing? you figure it out first in the situation then write ..
            the detachment was destroyed early in the morning .. at about 4 in the morning. turntables in this video - they destroyed the attacked BMD that was knocked out already at night and abandoned. and that’s it. only one rocket is fired in this video. everything else is heat trap.

            What BMD attackers? What are you talking about? look already there is a video after the battles, what was destroyed there, there is a video before the battle, the same equipment was standing near the road, and there is a burned-out one, and on the road there is a Privatbank car.

            I see that the thermal turntables, soon a video will appear showing horses coming to the military still alive. Filmed by the military by the way. Pieces of this video have already been shown on TV.
          2. +2
            22 May 2014 22: 26
            It was not BMD that was thrown, but the Privat-Bank collector’s car, and helicopters crashed into people, too - several people were injured.
          3. +1
            22 May 2014 22: 49
            https://vk.com/vegchel?z=video-67359347_169000828%2F20bc68fac13fce9cd6

            Here you can see in the video who works for whom with turntables!
        2. Our hero
          +6
          22 May 2014 20: 59
          Pease ... ly !!! This is not finishing !!! This is support by the air group of ground units !!! Turntables fired protective missiles from MANPADS !!!
          1. +2
            22 May 2014 22: 27
            At that moment, there were no opponents there, only Ukrainian soldiers. And all the same, they shot from helicopters both in the car and people got it.
            1. capitalist
              0
              23 May 2014 11: 32
              the helicopter will release traps in any danger .. he let out - how does he know who sits in the neighboring bushes and with what, even if at first glance it is not visible?
          2. +1
            22 May 2014 22: 49
            Quote: Our Knight
            Pease ... ly !!! This is not finishing !!! This is support by the air group of ground units !!! Turntables fired protective missiles from MANPADS !!!

            https://vk.com/vegchel?z=video-67359347_169000828%2F20bc68fac13fce9cd6

            Here you can see in the video who works for whom with turntables!
        3. BYV
          +2
          22 May 2014 21: 07
          I agree about the time of destruction. In addition, Strelkov made it clear that this was the work of the militia. The interview of the brigade commander also raises doubts, as well as the pictures in the video. Why insert a photo of "polite people"? In general, information flows in a stream, and it is becoming more and more difficult to distinguish misinformation from the truth.
          1. +2
            22 May 2014 22: 49
            Quote: BYV
            I agree about the time of destruction. In addition, Strelkov made it clear that this was the work of the militia. The interview of the brigade commander also raises doubts, as well as the pictures in the video. Why insert a photo of "polite people"? In general, information flows in a stream, and it is becoming more and more difficult to distinguish misinformation from the truth.

            https://vk.com/vegchel?z=video-67359347_169000828%2F20bc68fac13fce9cd6

            Here you can see in the video who works for whom with turntables!
            1. BYV
              0
              22 May 2014 23: 41
              Quote: Sith Lord
              Here you can see in the video who works for whom with turntables!

              At the expense of the turntables - yes, now I understand. But they arrived after the battle. And according to this video, it is not possible to understand who exactly destroyed the post (column). At first they shout that "Tse are ours", then "Tse ne are ours."
              PS By the way, thanks for the link. Materials seen only on YouTube.
              "+" To you.
              1. 0
                22 May 2014 23: 56
                Quote: BYV
                At the expense of the turntables - yes, now I understand. But they arrived after the battle. And according to this video, it is not possible to understand who exactly destroyed the post (column). At first they shout that "Tse are ours", then "Tse ne are ours."
                PS By the way, thanks for the link. Materials seen only on YouTube.
                "+" To you.


                And I didn’t write that the turntables were destroyed, I said finish off.

                set you too +
                1. BYV
                  0
                  23 May 2014 00: 10
                  By the way, do you know what's wrong with "Russian Spring"? As I understand it, another DOS attack?
                  PS Oops .... you made me a major .... feel
                  1. +3
                    23 May 2014 00: 44
                    Quote: BYV
                    By the way, do you know what's wrong with "Russian Spring"? As I understand it, another DOS attack?
                    PS Oops .... you made me a major .... feel

                    Yes, there they will be finished in a day. In February, 50 cyber attack specialists were brought back.

                    I went to your profile and + put, so you added +100

                    Here is part of the video here that I threw from the contact.
                    1. BYV
                      +1
                      23 May 2014 01: 01
                      Thank you.
        4. +2
          22 May 2014 23: 04
          In the video, a soldier prays to God. And he himself came to kill.
          He himself wants to look into his eyes. Who are you that came to fight with your people. God punishes one intention to kill ..........
      5. +1
        22 May 2014 20: 09
        But the advertising of the 51st brigade, that in principle of any part

      6. +2
        22 May 2014 20: 12
        The collector’s car is burnt, I don’t think it’s a matter of militias.
        Like this. took up arms, especially in a civil war, anything can be
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      8. +2
        22 May 2014 20: 52
        Horror ... did we do this? Or are they themselves? The USA has achieved its goal!
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      10. Stalker
        +1
        22 May 2014 21: 19
        They promised and did .. They warned the junta! There is no particular joy, but if you do not understand what to do?

        Everything returns to normal .... But the boys feel sorry.
    2. +14
      22 May 2014 19: 30
      What did they want? Picked up a weapon - be ready to die.
      1. +12
        22 May 2014 19: 55
        In any case, it was just stupidly senseless to shoot just like that. Conscripts, boys .... They could be easily disarmed. I don’t think they would shoot. It seems someone just needed to shoot this block post. I do not think that this was in the interests of the militias.
        1. +1
          22 May 2014 22: 17
          Quote: Bograntz
          Conscripts, boys ....

          What the fuck conscripts! You look at the news. Survivors showed there, these are people mobilized in the National Guard. Guys for thirty. Whoever shoots them is a war, but they don’t click their beaks in a war. They slept damn warriors.
    3. +11
      22 May 2014 19: 31
      The circumstances of the death of servicemen are very foggy and not specific .... someone drove up, shot, an explosion, a bunch of corpses.
      1. +8
        22 May 2014 19: 58
        One thing is certain - the checkpoint has been gouged into dust, 3 BPM, truck, 2 sanitary pills. Shooters rights to ukrov this will have both a demoralizing and a mobilizing effect.
    4. +6
      22 May 2014 19: 32
      War is Scary! In the war they kill :(
    5. +7
      22 May 2014 19: 32
      Everything is not easy there, or they will force their own, you won’t go shoot, You’ll go with the weapons to the people, you will die. Here it is a sad civil war (
    6. +17
      22 May 2014 19: 33
      It would be a joy if the corpses of the "blacks" were lying on the field, and instead of the BMP, Kolomoev's incasators would burn out. And so, the same people ...
      1. +4
        22 May 2014 19: 37
        Or we, or they ...
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      3. +8
        22 May 2014 19: 41
        Quote: tomket
        corpses of "blacks" were lying

        These will not climb, piss, they can only shoot at peaceful.
      4. +9
        22 May 2014 19: 51
        Quote: tomket
        And so, it's the same people ....

        The person standing opposite and sending the weapon in your direction is no longer a person but an enemy. How do you know what is on his mind, will he shoot or not!
        1. +1
          23 May 2014 01: 35
          These guys refused to take part in the operation despite giving money only for agreeing to go into battle ... but they refused. If there were militiamen it was necessary to make contact with them and not shoot the guys ... and if it was Kolomoisky ... you need to kill the nits ...
    7. +17
      22 May 2014 19: 35
      Well, that sorted it out. Cowardice is one of the qualities of today's people. A car, a summer house, an apartment, a sofa and a beer with a ram, and waste it all. And here you have to fight. For "nezalezhnaya" -there even grandmother promised. So they bought it, but as Balda said when he clicked his ass on his forehead ???? Correctly, "The pop wouldn't be chasing cheapness." We must fight for the truth, for life and freedom. It costs nothing in monetary terms, but it is very expensive.
      1. +13
        22 May 2014 19: 48
        Cowardice in 93 in Russia led to the Chechen war and hundreds of thousands of killed Russians! Kudrin Chubais Germans and other evil spirits flourishes ...
      2. +1
        22 May 2014 21: 50
        buddy, do not generalize, calling everyone cowards. There are among us the heroes of our time.
    8. soyuz-nik
      +5
      22 May 2014 19: 35
      They will never (already) be brothers -
      Neither in the Homeland, nor in the mother ....
    9. -61
      22 May 2014 19: 36
      Glory to the Russian soldiers who tumbled down so many ukrov. Lord, do not let the next atrocities of these nonhumans from the junta take place, please send victory to the real Christ army, protecting all the people of eastern Ukraine from these ghouls. We, the simple people of Russia, morally with all our souls, are the defenders of the Russian people.
      1. +40
        22 May 2014 19: 44
        "Glory to the Russian soldiers who have rolled so many ukrov."

        This is what you dear about. No need for such anger !!

        Ukrainians are fraternal people as before. But Bandera and pravossaki is no one!
        As in that question to the veteran - grandfather, how many people did you kill in the war ?, not at all my son, - And where did so many medals come from ?, -Fascists killed.

        you can’t say more precisely.
      2. +6
        22 May 2014 20: 06
        ignore provocation but try to figure it out first! the army of the southeast have no attribution to this attack. This is the next punitive operation of the Kolomoisky cleansing the rebellious military!
        http://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/1596886.html
        here is detailed enough
      3. +2
        22 May 2014 22: 18
        litter some kind of nonsense put one (-) and crawled out doh ... There were mobilized (partisans) and judging by Strelkov’s words didn’t touch anyone. Was it to kill them? authorities?
      4. +2
        22 May 2014 23: 22
        I can’t even find words to express my anger to your comment. GOD is a Judge to you. Each death means deepening the pit between the two nations. And you rejoice at it. Regardless of nationality, people die, each killed is dozens of the future generation killed. negative
      5. +2
        23 May 2014 01: 13
        There is nothing to be happy about. This is a provocation to incite the hatred of Ukrainian soldiers towards the Russians, towards the militia. The guys do not want to fight with them, so the special battalion "Donbas" did it. This is Yarosh's handwriting.
        The parents of these guys and Ukrainian soldiers will be told that the Russian militias did it.
        Read how World War II began on September 2, 1. Operation Gleiwitz.
        The same handwriting. This is the handwriting of scoundrels. Nazi handwriting.
      6. 0
        23 May 2014 02: 34
        Urgent repost! It may have already appeared. Natsikov is extinguished by his own helicopters near Volnovakha (DPR). I think it doesn’t need a translation. The DNI has no turntables. If you know how, then repost on foreign sites.
    10. +18
      22 May 2014 19: 37
      Today at ~ 4:30 in the morning the checkpoint was destroyed, beyond Volnovakha.
      Armored cars (collector cars) private 2 jeeps drove up and shot the military 15 killed and more than 30 wounded, Ukrainian armored vehicles burned. One of the armored cars could not leave. After 3 hours, 2 Mi-24 combat helicopters and one Mi-8 flew in and shot armored cars in bounce from cannons, making 2 approaches, and launched an attack despite the fact that their military were nearby. One soldier was wounded in the leg, and also got into an ambulance. The armored cars arrived from Veliko-Anadol and the Dnipropetrovsk region.
      Having shot an armored car from cannons, they cleared out all the possible evidence of who actually was in the collector's car. This is a failure of Kolomoisky, but a pity for the military who fell victim to this provocation.

      The victims were the Ukrainian military, conscripts, eighteen-year-old boys. They were all shot, and the attackers of their dead / wounded were taken. Only the privatized armored car remained, which was shot by military helicopters.
      Recall that 2 days ago in Volnovakha there was a round table on which the military, who said that they would not go anywhere and would not conduct any operations against the residents, would remain to protect people from the Right Sector and others who would threaten people's lives. They were going to go to the side of the DNI, apparently in this way the boys became a victim of provocation, because they would not follow orders for cleansing from Kiev.
      And the armored car, which did not have time to leave, turned out to be a failure and a combat helicopter was used to hide evidence.

      http://arbaletfire.livejournal.com/202939.html
    11. +6
      22 May 2014 19: 37
      In a terrible time we live ...
    12. +20
      22 May 2014 19: 37
      We did everything right. You can't be "a little pregnant". Either you sit at home under the bed, or you go to fight with weapons. Excuses like "shoot in the air" - do not roll.
    13. 0
      22 May 2014 19: 38
      In Russia, it was always considered a great honor to stand up for the weak and destitute. So is it true that when our correspondents are taken hostage, when dozens of civilians are poisoned and burned alive, people are shot from their helicopters and heavy weapons in their native land, the Russian army will cowardly sit out frightened by sanctions!?!?
      All this resembles Stalinist politics at the beginning of 41g. when they reported to him about the impending attack by Nazi Germany, and he demanded not to succumb to provocations - everyone probably remembers the result.
      1. traffic-05
        +11
        22 May 2014 20: 00
        come volunteer and fight ...
        1. +3
          22 May 2014 20: 11
          ... and he demanded not to succumb to provocations - everyone probably remembers the result.

          Aha, remember. 1945, Berlin, the surrender of Nazi Germany.
          1. +1
            22 May 2014 20: 33
            This is yes, as well as 80 million in the occupation and 28 million dead, tens of millions of wounded mutilated by soul and body. A third of wealth, etc., etc. was spent on the war.
            The consequences of that mistake we still feel ....
            P.S. Everyone killed in the war could bring more offspring and the Russians now would not be 200 but 400 million! and this would not be alcoholism and much more
            1. +2
              22 May 2014 22: 53
              Quote: Saratovets
              28 million killed tens of millions of wounded

              In fact, economists agree with the ancients that a state that has ten warriors for ten people is doomed to economic failure. Among these ten are: infants and children, women, people with disabilities, the elderly unable to hold arms and workers arming the army, peasants feeding the army and members of the government who are not fighting. In the same number, it must be borne in mind that not the whole army is at war, some protect the borders with other states, protect the rear and monitor the order on roads and railways. But now imagine that out of 2 million (the first census of the population, which was canceled by the government and revised to 160 million according to the order), only 200 million are assigned to those killed, and this is one in seven and not ten. Even if not 28, as it is now customary to say, but 28 million, then this is an economic collapse, since for every dead person there are three wounded, and every fourth wounded person is disabled. Who flew into space? Who raised the country? Infants and the elderly. Figures should not only be read, but also thought over ... and not for the sake of politics, but common sense. Personally, I’m even afraid of 20 million dead, but here 5. 28 million laid shoulder to shoulder is 20 times around the Earth at the equator. if stacked on top of each other, then this is a wall of human bodies 212 meters high. What is now not scary? 53 million is 28 million injured and 000 million disabled. Children stood at the machine tools because 000 million people were drafted into the army. Who should raise the country after the war? Even 84 million dead, this is 20 million wounded and 32 million disabled.
        2. +3
          22 May 2014 22: 04
          Quote: traffik-05
          come volunteer and fight ...

          By your logic, is the entire male population of Russia who does not give up everything and does not go to war with the fascists and the Kiev junta either cowards, or support the killing of residents of the Southeast? How many do you take on a petty provocateur! Wanted to fake, Fuck you! Our grandfathers beat the fascists, and we will finish it!
      2. +4
        22 May 2014 20: 37
        read the story more closely, and you will understand why Stalin was waiting for the Germans to attack first ... the USSR then it was impossible even to pull the troops to the border, because you would have immediately been accused of attack, and the fact that Germany was standing at our borders was supposedly a training maneuver ... double standards of the usa and geyropa and then led!
        1. +6
          22 May 2014 20: 46
          I am a historian ... In the Navy, Admiral Kuznetsov introduced a combat readiness system.
          as a result, the Fleet, unlike the army, met the Germans as expected ... both in the tail and in the mane, nothing prevented Stalin from introducing the same system into the army. And mobilization plans (in terms of industry - evacuation, etc.) were adopted in 1936 and before the war were not adjusted! and much more
          1. Vita_vko
            -3
            22 May 2014 22: 36
            Quote: Saratovets
            read the story more closely, and you will understand why Stalin was waiting for the Germans to attack first

            For almost a day after the attack, Stalin could not believe what was happening, he hid - this is a fact.
            It is also a fact that the Nazis flew over and photographed Soviet territory for more than a month (just as Ukrainians and NATO are doing now), while the entire Western Soviet group of forces was located in the rear, instead of concentrating along the border.
            As a result, in the first month of fighting 90% of the combat potential was lost. The fact that the fascist did not enter Moscow could only be called a miracle.
            As a result of the "Stalinist military policy" in the initial period of the war, the people paid a terrible price for one upholstered Fritz, up to 20 Soviet soldiers died!
            And now, many in the Crimean euphoria are trying to succumb to provocations, just like in 41 after the Finnish company. History repeats itself and repeats itself in the most criminal way. In the Southeast, the people are already beginning to hate Putin for his "support", which stands for nothing but useless statements and condemnations. It is clear that Putin is waiting for the elections. Because the recognition of the elections as legitimate means a betrayal of the peoples of the South-East, and non-recognition even before the start of the elections is stupidity without any reasoning. And the introduction of troops or even a provocation at the border will be the basis for the Kiev junta to cancel the elections and introduce martial law, refuse to pay debts, etc. etc.
            In general, the people need to survive for at least a few more days on their own, and then if the newly elected president continues the same policy, the other is simply not allowed to be carried out by the CIA officers who actually control Ukraine, the entry of Russian peacekeeping forces will be inevitable.
            1. +3
              22 May 2014 23: 53
              Strange how you did it, the grouping was in the rear, and after a month 90% of the potential was lost.
              It does not fit. During the month of the war, the Germans, in addition to Minsk, did not take other large industrial cities, and a boiler was not even planned near Kiev. The battle for Smolensk was in full swing. Moscow has not even been bombed yet.
            2. +3
              23 May 2014 01: 33
              For almost a day after the attack, Stalin could not believe what was happening, he hid - this is a fact.


              You should at least read the journal of visits to Stalin's Kremlin office, so as not to publish such "facts".
            3. PM74
              +4
              23 May 2014 04: 43
              According to Stalin, stupidity!
              About a month, stupidity!
              90% utter stupidity!
              About Moscow and a miracle. I don’t want to talk even.
              You do not know the history of the Second World War, dear
          2. PM74
            +2
            23 May 2014 01: 57
            I’m sorry, I am an amateur. But answer the question: from what until the 44th Baltic Fleet could not do anything? From what did the Black Sea Fleet support only the landing of naval assault forces? Why did the Northern Fleet (then it was very weak) provide convoys to Western countries?
            1. 0
              23 May 2014 08: 07
              Because the fleet cannot operate without bases, and we lost the fleet’s bases from land, and the German fleet was objectively stronger ... I mean readiness to repulse the attack, it was quite high in the fleet, there were flaws, for example, weren’t prepared to repel the attacks of faster aircraft than anticipated ...
      3. +9
        22 May 2014 22: 16
        Quote: scientist
        Stalinist politics at the beginning of 41g.

        Stalin was informed about the impending attack since the occupation of Poland. In total, there were more than 20 such messages in only 41 years. So Hitler also postponed the outbreak of hostilities five times. So why then it was necessary to believe 21 messages, if 20 were not confirmed? In fact, if you read the memoirs and not of politicized historians, then the planes of the fascists went astray even before June 22. Near Murmansk, on the 20th, the Messer fired at the children on the bridge and killed two, and on the 21st, anti-aircraft artillery opened fire on a German plane. And nobody was arrested or shot. From 40, the military industry switched to a 10-hour shift, with the beginning of the war, to a 12-hour shift. History should be studied not according to Solzhenitsyn and not according to Volkogonov, one from the CIA, the other from Khrushchev's policy, and he put former OUN members in party positions in Kiev.
    14. +6
      22 May 2014 19: 38
      Quote: The same Lech
      The circumstances of the death of servicemen are very foggy and not specific .... someone drove up, shot, an explosion, a bunch of corpses.


      Such is the essence of the civil war, like a brother or a son, for example, and the enemy is unclear to the normal brain. Moreover, a minority is fighting for the idea, the rest of the bandits are simple to rob, settle scores, rape, hoping to escape retribution in the muddy water.
    15. +7
      22 May 2014 19: 38
      The "Vostok" battalion did its best ?!)
      In general, I agree with Strelkov a little more than 100% - very many in modern Ukraine live in some other fantasy world with a capacious name "moyahataskraiu" ... is already on ...
      PS I would like to really hope that after such an "action" among the Khuntai "military" ala the Nazi guards and the right-wing sectarian will reduce their "prowess" to shoot even at civilians ...
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        1. +4
          22 May 2014 20: 05
          You are, of course, right, but as far as this incident is concerned, it looks like they really are the Kalomois ... they staged an "action" to intimidate the soldiers who refused to obey the orders to clean up ...
          Well, one can only hope that after this the Ukrainian military will see soon ...
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    16. +4
      22 May 2014 19: 42
      In a civil war, you cannot stay third. Sooner or later, you have to choose the side.
    17. soyuz-nik
      +4
      22 May 2014 19: 42
      Quote: uteko
      In a terrible time we live ...


      Good health, I wish! hi

      And there were worse times ... IMHO, the problem is that, as they say, history teaches us that it us teaches nothing.....
    18. +1
      22 May 2014 19: 43
      Damn, here is a link to an article in itar-tass. http://itar-tass.com/mezhdunarodnaya-panorama/1206612
      I quote
      "At the moment there is no confirmation that representatives of the DPR are taking part in the clash," the press service of the proclaimed Donetsk People's Republic noted.


      Who posted the article?
      1. +4
        22 May 2014 21: 22
        By the way, the reliability of Strelkov’s commentary is also very doubtful. The site on which his statements appeared http://rusvesna.su is constantly being downloaded, and he is lying all day. His fake clone is working, from which they took a comment. Draw conclusions what is called ...
        1. +6
          22 May 2014 21: 53
          A new video has just appeared! A soldier of the Ukrainian army runs away from helicopters and screams - not ours!

          1. +1
            22 May 2014 22: 42
            The Ukrosssykuns did not take on their own business. I forsake! Amen!
          2. 0
            22 May 2014 23: 56
            With the coordination of units and aviation - the trouble ...
    19. +2
      22 May 2014 19: 43
      eh, peasants. muzhiki. well, why did you go to fight? You’ll be the first and they will substitute you. Now, joys in families.
    20. +7
      22 May 2014 19: 43
      For these meaningless deaths, hang first of all this pi-dora, a fat turchinov hog - on an aspen and score him in the ass to score. And after him all the other eggs, avaco-parubiev ...
      1. +4
        22 May 2014 21: 16
        Quote: coolvoldik
        For these meaningless deaths, hang first of all this pi-dora, a fat turchinov hog - on an aspen and score him in the ass to score. And after him all the other eggs, avaco-parubiev ...

        First of all, it would be necessary to hang one swarthy Nobel laureate, a bloody champion of "freedom" and "democracy", but unfortunately he is not yet within reach, I hope someday it will not be so and he will still answer for everything. am
        1. 0
          23 May 2014 07: 53
          Quote: PENZYAC
          Quote: coolvoldik
          For these meaningless deaths, hang first of all this pi-dora, a fat turchinov hog - on an aspen and score him in the ass to score. And after him all the other eggs, avaco-parubiev ...

          First of all, it would be necessary to hang one swarthy Nobel laureate, a bloody champion of "freedom" and "democracy", but unfortunately he is not yet within reach, I hope someday it will not be so and he will still answer for everything. am

          - Obama's real home:
    21. typhoon7
      +4
      22 May 2014 19: 43
      The war is gaining momentum, and the closer the election, the more fierce the battles, the larger calibers are applied, which will be possible only after the election. Kolomoisky with a gang must be crushed, he has professional mercenaries.
    22. +6
      22 May 2014 19: 43
      Another video ...
    23. Sasspy
      +7
      22 May 2014 19: 44
      There is a logical chain - Odessa - Volnovakh - Next Kiev ... and blame Moscow !!! It will be quite noticeable
    24. Arh
      +1
      22 May 2014 19: 44
      Who shot these warriors arrived in the cars of the Kolomoisk bank !!!
      1. +1
        22 May 2014 19: 49
        Quote: Arh
        Who shot these warriors arrived in the cars of the Kolomoisk bank !!!

        These machines are at the bank and the militia squeezed ...

        Now Gubarev, he came to the Donetsk Regional State Administration from Slavyansk ...
      2. +5
        22 May 2014 19: 53
        So I am surprised! More talk here. The battalion is east, in general, our sun is attributed. You what ay. First of all, what kind of character? like a right-winged man, they suddenly shot out of the bastard, shot ten more unarmed and into the fog. Secondly, they already wrote somewhere that Kolomoisky’s roof was going on, well, or he was dead at the end, because two armored collection vehicles with LOGOS arrived !!! Privat Bank!
      3. Ruskiye
        -9
        22 May 2014 20: 05
        Like who. DNR militias. Cars were squeezed from the bank for a long time. In the first video, without sound, they arrived, offered to surrender weapons. Refused For the second call - they shot. Strange block post - some kind of Zarnitsa.
        1. +18
          22 May 2014 20: 11
          I don’t believe that the DNR fighters, who a few days before agreed with these guys about non-aggression, seeing that there are no idiots in masks with chants about fame, then they would come and shoot them. Moreover, 10 unarmed on his knees. WTF. Such fascination is done only by fascists and mercenaries!
        2. soyuz-nik
          +8
          22 May 2014 20: 55
          Good health, I wish! hi

          Then why did the turntables work at this "checkpoint"? Have the militias already squeezed the turntables? request
          1. Ruskiye
            -2
            22 May 2014 21: 41
            Turntables were working on an encapsulator machine that broke down near the post — maybe they shot it. Look at the video block of the post after the shooting - the territory fired by the turntables would look like a friend.
            1. xan
              +4
              22 May 2014 23: 49
              Quote: Ruskiye
              Turntables were working on an encapsulator machine that broke down near the post — maybe they shot it. Look at the video block of the post after the shooting - the territory fired by the turntables would look like a friend.

              Stop inventing! Full of comments and videos, including from local eyewitnesses, from the wounded. The junta fighters shot the military for refusing to fight the people.
              1. capitalist
                +1
                23 May 2014 11: 34
                yes you invent some nonsense
    25. G8K
      G8K
      +7
      22 May 2014 19: 50
      Mativatsya shooting the same as in Moriupol, an indicative punishment. Anyone who doubts should make their choice. If you stay in the middle, you will get pi ... on both sides.
    26. Gloria45
      +5
      22 May 2014 19: 50
      Oh, p and dr and l o-martyr.
      1. +10
        22 May 2014 20: 41
        Only now it dawned on whom he reminds!
      2. +1
        23 May 2014 10: 01
        Quote: gloria45
        Oh, p and dr and l o-martyr.


        Paruby does not think of himself, does not think ...
        And Zhirik warned him.
        Or did the thinker completely refuse?
    27. +1
      22 May 2014 19: 51
      Someday this will all end in Ukraine .. I hope that they will remember all this with pain and shame constantly .. (and the Carpathian region will be the plain where they will hold an international tank biathlon)
    28. +5
      22 May 2014 19: 52
      True, I didn’t understand where there was a checkpoint or something like that, even primitive defensive positions were not even visible, elementary military guards were not visible. It looks more like a marching column of reinforced mssv, who took a rest, but again without a military security. Some civilians approached, approached and still hold heart-warming conversations, the result is in person. I agree with Comrade I. Strelkov, you can even say tougher herd. And nothing to lament is war!
    29. Gorko
      +5
      22 May 2014 19: 55
      Well, that sorted it out. Cowardice is one of the qualities of today's people. A car, a summer house, an apartment, a sofa and a beer with a ram, and waste it all. And here you have to fight. For "nezalezhnaya" -there even grandmother promised. So they bought it, but as Balda said when he clicked his ass on his forehead ???? Correctly, "The pop wouldn't be chasing cheapness." We must fight for the truth, for life and freedom. It costs nothing in monetary terms, but it is very expensive.

      And for what grandmothers conscripts are fighting, I would like to know? Sorry for the boys, they are fighting because they ordered.
      1. +5
        22 May 2014 20: 58
        Quote: GORKO
        And for what grandmothers conscripts are fighting, I would like to know? Sorry for the boys, they are fighting because they ordered

        What kind of money?
        It was announced that they wouldn’t let go of the demobilization from the army for at least another 6 months, until further notice. There’s no word about money at all. Cannon meat fights for uncle for free
    30. +3
      22 May 2014 19: 56
      Ukrainian mass media report heavy losses of the Azov battalion near Mariupol.

      In particular, according to the VGolos edition, as a result of the battles between the DPR militias and the Azov punitive battalion, the latter lost 19 people killed and 25 wounded. Militia losses were not reported.

      Near Ugledar the "Right Sector" checkpoint was liquidated - 5 people were killed. This information is obtained from the Operational Attendant.

      Under Olginka, the enemy has up to 30 killed and seriously wounded during the night and morning.

      In the forest belt near Kramatorsk, 20 camouflaged corpses of law enforcement officers were discovered, according to their own sources.
      1. +11
        22 May 2014 20: 20
        How to understand the 20 disguised corpses of pravosekov? Now is not winter, the smell will reveal any disguise, especially from 20 pigs.
        Or did they sho, lay in an ambush, disguised themselves in a forest belt, and then all together forgot how to breathe?
    31. +13
      22 May 2014 19: 58
      Most likely, the destruction of a small, in principle, unnecessary block-post is the preparation of public opinion to justify BIG BLOOD. WHICH IS GOING TO BE PERFORMED BY THE Kiev JUNE led by TRUPCHINOV and his minions and guide dogs. Something like this.
      1. +9
        22 May 2014 20: 03
        How not fig! It may even be very possible, right now, how they will spread this news ukrosmi in all the details about the treachery of Russian saboteurs. It is "saboteurs" who are already writing on the censor.

        And at the same time, they frightened the remaining doubters from the National Guard. Do not kill the peaceful, we will kill you.
        1. 0
          22 May 2014 20: 11
          I agree that Ukrainians will try to squeeze the maximum out of it. Let them scare the National Guard and anyone else, but the result can be very big blood.
      2. 0
        22 May 2014 22: 36
        it is quite possible, and the opinion is turned in its direction ...
    32. -1
      22 May 2014 19: 59
      Destroyed a whole subdivision of UkroSS ... Sorry, UkroVS was wrong. The guys died because of the incompetent military leaders. It is curious that on bydlom, the unit is "pidrozdil".
      1. +1
        22 May 2014 21: 19
        No need to be malicious. Ordinary people, reservists, who refused to shoot civilians, were killed, which already does them honor. But I, in connection with the incident, have one question: Is there really not a single worthy officer left in Ukraine who can defend the honor of his army, his subordinates, his homeland?
        1. +2
          22 May 2014 22: 55
          Quote: aleks_29296
          No need to be malicious. Ordinary people, reservists, who refused to shoot civilians, were killed, which already does them honor. But I, in connection with the incident, have one question: Is there really not a single worthy officer left in Ukraine who can defend the honor of his army, his subordinates, his homeland?

          Alexei! Please explain to me, maybe I don’t understand what?
          1. Who is firing mortars and artillery systems on their compatriots, destroying homes and killing civilians?
          2. For what purpose pulled the Ukrainian Armed Forces heavy equipment, aircraft, Natsik, reservists and mercenaries in the Donetsk region?
          3. What are the reservists doing there?
          4. What honor can an army have in killing, but not protecting, its people?
          5. And what is the MOTHERLAND in your understanding?
          No malice, answer me, please at least to these questions! hi
          1. 0
            22 May 2014 23: 24
            First, they killed the guys who refused to shoot at unarmed people.
            Secondly, by the word worthy officer, I mean a person who is responsible for his subordinates (whom you notice killed), for his country, where the devil is going on, knows what. A person who can take control of the situation. Unfortunately, there are no strong personalities in Ukraine.
            And the concept of homeland was instilled in me in the Union. Then it was done much better than now.
          2. 0
            22 May 2014 23: 24
            First, they killed the guys who refused to shoot at unarmed people.
            Secondly, by the word worthy officer, I mean a person who is responsible for his subordinates (whom you notice killed), for his country, where the devil is going on, knows what. A person who can take control of the situation. Unfortunately, there are no strong personalities in Ukraine.
            And the concept of homeland was instilled in me in the Union. Then it was done much better than now.
      2. -2
        22 May 2014 21: 19
        No need to be malicious. Ordinary people, reservists, who refused to shoot civilians, were killed, which already does them honor. But I, in connection with the incident, have one question: Is there really not a single worthy officer left in Ukraine who can defend the honor of his army, his subordinates, his homeland?
        1. +1
          23 May 2014 02: 55
          But I, in connection with the incident, have one question: Is there really not a single worthy officer left in Ukraine who can defend the honor of his army, his subordinates, his homeland?
          Apparently not left. During the events on the Maidan, the command of the Ukrainian Armed Forces clearly stated that it would not use the army against the people. Behind the back of Yanukovych, who did not want bloodshed, such statements were easy to make. And when the current gentlemen came to power, ready to shoot the head off for such statements, the principled commanders disappeared somewhere. therefore
          in Ukraine there was not a single worthy officer able to defend the honor of his army, his subordinates, his homeland
    33. +5
      22 May 2014 19: 59
      The ROVD of the Volnovakha district reported losses among Ukrainian soldiers who refused to shoot at civilians.

      According to a source in the Volnovakha district police, at least 15 dead bodies are still at the site of a night battle in the village of Blagodatnoye, on the Russian-Ukrainian border. An armed conflict took place there at night. Militants from Kiev attacked the camp of the Ukrainian military. They acted with the support of armored vehicles and combat helicopters. Some of them arrived at the scene in Privatbank cars.

      - It is impossible to get close to the bodies of the dead, since the bodies are in tents, and ammunition is constantly exploding near the tents, the bodies are badly burned. In addition, the Bethaera burn in the place. Now firefighters are trying to extinguish them, ”a police source in the Volnovakha district said.

      The interlocutor emphasized that the recruits of the 51st volunteer brigade, which had been formed two months ago, were on duty at the checkpoint of the Ukrainian army. Now it is not possible to interrogate the victims, as many refuse to testify to the police.

      But the testimonies given by the wounded confirm the words of local residents that the checkpoint was attacked by unknown persons in jeeps and Privatbank cars.

      “The guys said the fight started around five in the morning.” People drove up to them in a car and started shooting, ”a source in the district’s police emphasized.

      According to local residents who witnessed the attack, unknown persons who arrived in Privatbank cash-in-transit vehicles and two jeeps opened fire on the Ukrainian military, who had previously refused to shoot at civilians.

      - Residents of the Holy One defended their homes. The National Guard was ordered to crush the resistance. They refused to shoot people, and in the end they were punished, ”says a source at the headquarters of the self-defense command.

      According to the interlocutor, this was a punitive operation ordered by the oligarch Igor Kolomoisky, the owner of Privatbank, known for funding the Maidan protests and paying remuneration to the Right Sector fighters.
    34. +8
      22 May 2014 19: 59
      It's time to bring down the very top .... While these bloodthirsty in power, ordinary people will die! Something is not heard of that Kazakh, who collected money for Kalomoisky ....
      1. Our hero
        -1
        22 May 2014 21: 19
        collected grandmas and dumped to the west. laughing
    35. Orc-xnumx
      +4
      22 May 2014 19: 59
      Benya thought that after Odessa EVERYTHING is possible!
      1. +5
        22 May 2014 20: 07
        I'm fucking up too. Okay, so I split it up !? Nate to you my brother collectors, but do not care what the logos are, I can do anything ... go go kill the draftees ....

        crap!
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        2. +7
          22 May 2014 20: 40
          Quote: DEZINTO
          go to kill the draftees ....

          Yes, it’s good to whine already! These were the fighters of the 51-th Volunteer National Guard Brigade! They signed up, but it’s scary to fight, so they entered into agreements with the locals, they were punished for this. I do not see any reason to cry.
        3. +2
          22 May 2014 20: 50
          And what did you want ... a man went to vabank, or all or a corpse
    36. +6
      22 May 2014 20: 00
      The flywheel of the Civil War spins. Sorry .
    37. +2
      22 May 2014 20: 03
      How many innocent guys are dying!
    38. kirqiz ssr
      +1
      22 May 2014 20: 05
      guys make it clear who shot whom one writes one on the news another shows who created it.
      1. +3
        22 May 2014 20: 10
        Quote: kirqiz SSR
        guys make it clear who shot whom one writes one on the news another shows who created it.


        PS shot fighters of the National Guard for refusing to fight - a journalist. VIDEO


        Near Volnovakha in the Donetsk region, militants of the "Right Sector" shot soldiers of the National Guard. Reported by journalist Alexander Rogers.

        “Today, May 22, near Volnovakha (between Velikoanadol and Blagodatnoye) from 05.00 to 09.00, fighters of the National Guard were shot by militants of the Right Sector. The cause of the conflict was the refusal of the National Guard servicemen to fight against the DPR. "National Guard" of all the types of weapons they have, including combat helicopters were used. 50 injured servicemen were admitted to the Volnovakha hospital (12 died and 38 wounded), 8 people were taken to the railway hospital and 42 - to the central one. No death toll has been reported yet, but eyewitnesses say "the field is littered with corpses," Rogers said.

        Recall, the Ministry of Defense reported that near Volnovakha on the night of May 21-22, the rebels blew up the fighting machine of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, there are dead and wounded.

        Earlier it was reported that the President of the LPR introduced martial law on the territory of the republic and announced full mobilization.


        Source: http://polemika.com.ua/news-146144.html
      2. capitalist
        -16
        22 May 2014 20: 26
        according to information from ADEQUATE sources, the picture is as follows:

        1) it was a column, not a post block. they were given some kind of task, but the locals did not let them pass (and whatever they write here, only the stubborn will shoot at unarmed, and he will think - martial law has not been declared in the country .. this is actually one of the problems that Khokhlyatsk warriors complain - those who still have reason and conscience are not completely lost are forced to act with a bunch of restrictions). the commander decided to stop the convoy for the night on the road (-in the field it was necessary to go, in the field! and there for 2 hours to rummage then the guards and then sleep)

        2) the battle was at night. day video with turntables - this is finished off by the attackers who have been abandoned for a long time.

        3) a BMD drove up in the middle of the night, a couple of collection vehicles (which, as I wrote above, are also used by rebels to hijack and only drive them), some other vehicles (there were about 30 attackers in total) and crushed roadside equipment and people. about the casualties of the attackers is unknown, according to the technique of 1 bmd and one collection vehicle. column losses - 3 BMPs, 3 cars and about 15-20 people killed and about 30 wounded

        4) reports that this is some kind of "punitive detachment of Kolomoisky" is clear and 100% nonsense. they were rebels .. the fact that Strelkov does not know who it was doesn’t mean anything .. he doesn’t control anything there at all - there are quite a large number of independently acting independent groups.
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          1. 0
            22 May 2014 21: 31
            Yes, this is generally a strange person. What made the veteran of the two Chechen wars become a liberalist? Wanted easy fame?
            And according to the article ... The meaning of what happened is the same as the shooting on the Maidan. And the customer is the same.
            The saddest thing is that Arkady also knows this. (((
        2. +2
          22 May 2014 21: 42
          Oh German, he knows better than the locals. Mercenary?
          1. capitalist
            0
            23 May 2014 11: 36
            Vasya, it’s just that the Internet works at my proxy at work .. do you know what it is or explain it on your fingers?
        3. Ruskiye
          -8
          22 May 2014 22: 29
          Information from ADEQUATE sources is not included in the program of creating in the Russian media the image of insane Ukrainians and peaceful rebels "DNR".

          Unfortunately, most readers of this resource will not accept logic.
          1. -1
            22 May 2014 22: 41
            The familiar style is to set the bad luck. Somewhere I already saw it.)))
            Before writing in onalitiks, and even adequate, on this topic, show the incarnation winemaker. And the history of the car. It will be the same garbage as with bullets on the Maidan.
          2. xan
            0
            22 May 2014 23: 57
            Quote: Ruskiye
            Unfortunately, most readers of this resource will not accept logic.

            And where is your logic, forum fighter?
            There is logic in the execution of the military by law-breakers, but no other logic is presented. About the shooting by BMD turntables and the collector’s militia car is not funny, but stupidly purely in Ukrainian
            1. capitalist
              0
              23 May 2014 11: 39
              What is the logic of the shooting of military law enforcement officers?
              in that the army, which is already not particularly keen to fight at all, could not be forced to do so?
          3. capitalist
            0
            23 May 2014 11: 38
            here, as elsewhere - the percentage of imbeciles and other anacephals approaches 90.
            people are not able to build even elementary logical chains.
    39. Our hero
      -17
      22 May 2014 20: 10
      Oh my god you're mine. The more I look at Dala in Ukraine, the more I remember Chechnya. There, too, they shouted for independence and also fought a fratricidal war. I really hope that Putin is smart enough not to go into the civil war in Ukraine. For I can name nothing more than what is happening there. And especially I can’t watch how our (Russian and citizens of neighboring countries) are shooting (killing) Ukrainian boys who took the oath and are faithful to it to the end. I can’t and don’t want anything good about these killers! In Russia, there is a law prohibiting Russian citizens from participating in wars and military conflicts of 3 countries. I hope that these killers will be punished to the fullest extent of Russian law. You can minus as much as you want, but this is my position.
      1. +8
        22 May 2014 20: 18
        Yes, not our damn it! NOT OUR! Here you are already a symbol of the provocation that worked! At the expense of Chechnya and similarities and no need to send troops absolutely agree. And about our citizens, well, baaalin, is it still clear if you look closely, what are you ?? They threw the beast of the Nazis and mercenaries into a small detachment of boys on a halt. So right now, such a dregs crawled .......
      2. +2
        22 May 2014 21: 02
        Our Knight was suddenly not ours? There is a war going on. Armed Forces of Ukraine decided that they are on the side of the junta. Let them now disentangle.
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        1. +3
          22 May 2014 21: 44
          A hero without a head is not our hero.
      4. +1
        23 May 2014 00: 39
        sho for w .. I = + = set it for sure. Is it really censorship like that? You can’t kill those who didn’t harm you, maybe later some of these soldiers would have fought, but there was a chance that they would at least not follow silly orders and I missed this chance. And speaking of volunteers, I will certainly exaggerate, but remember Chechnya and your attitude to unaunso whose representatives fought there. Among many Ukrainians, the same attitude towards Russian volunteers.
    40. zol1
      0
      22 May 2014 20: 13
      Until the stake, this fascist-Bandera scum will rule his devilish ball!
    41. shitovmg
      +3
      22 May 2014 20: 15
      Where are the fighters of the old generations ??? Night sortie, detonation of ammunition with a moderator in the midst of lunch (if they have something to eat), imitation of careless handling of fire, and only one useless pipe remains from the MLRS, or one "frightening" volley ...
    42. +4
      22 May 2014 20: 18
      but when it comes to the military, the regular military. that they are not on the way with the Nazis. or after the collapse of the USSR, all real officers became extinct. or brains are overshadowed by fat.
      1. +2
        22 May 2014 20: 33
        Quote: v245721
        but when it comes to the military, the regular military. that they are not on the way with the Nazis. or after the collapse of the USSR, all real officers became extinct. or brains are overshadowed by fat.

        Yes, they were told by their SMD (mass disinformation media) that their whole brain was satisfied that everything was arranged. And about this incident they already broadcast that it was the Russian militia who arrived in the Kolomoisky cars and shot the children.
    43. +1
      22 May 2014 20: 19
      Then piss off.
    44. +5
      22 May 2014 20: 19
      Well, the "detachments" appeared. They say they were put on their knees and shot.
      1. capitalist
        -10
        22 May 2014 20: 29
        oh god, where do you read such nonsense? )))
        everything is already painted out normally what was and how
    45. MG42
      +8
      22 May 2014 20: 20
      Judging by the video in the subject, it does not look like a roadblock, rested in a landing, relaxed in the shade, today it is very hot in the East of Ukraine, more than 30 in the Sun.
      As a result, we got two hundredth and three hundredth, corpses on the field i.e. they were retreating from landing >>
      1. machinetchik_39
        +2
        22 May 2014 21: 39
        They were there for more than a day, see the previous video, where they communicate with local people. Everything is visible there, and the fact that they don’t want to fight, both discipline and lack of experience.
    46. +7
      22 May 2014 20: 24
      My video questions are:
      Why didn't the "separatists" take the infantry vehicles?
      Why all the young green guys and not pros?
      1. capitalist
        -1
        22 May 2014 20: 29
        what is there to pick up? there all the equipment is knocked out

        all the whole equipment that you see in the photo is another troop group that arrived at the battlefield in the afternoon.
      2. 0
        23 May 2014 05: 10
        I agree, if this is not a provocation on the part of the right sector, maybe they want the warrior to have motivation!
    47. +4
      22 May 2014 20: 24
      Pravoseki continue the "case" of their grandfathers, punitive actions and fight against unarmed people.
    48. Petlin
      +3
      22 May 2014 20: 26
      Ukrofashisty arrogantly unbelted, making sure that Putin will not help Donbass and Lugansk. But it’s enough to just help - by night, to gouge all the columns and places of dislocation of military equipment. It turns out that NATO can bomb Yugoslavia, Libya, Iraq on far-fetched pretexts, and Russia should watch Russians kill and only pray. Yes, only God - then no, since he admits such barbarism
    49. +9
      22 May 2014 20: 28
      I read and do not believe my eyes that somewhere this is happening next to Russia. Before, Israel and Palestine didn’t leave the news line, now Ukraine ... is a nightmare, but the West is talking ?! Everything's Alright?! In the course of a long time, all this will continue. I feel sorry for people. sad
      1. +7
        22 May 2014 20: 57
        If we do not extinguish this, we will have to regret our families.
        In passing - someone, looking at Israel and Palestine, did not imagine this in Ukraine. Do not be afraid to liberate imagination and freedom of thought.
        1. maks maksimenko
          +1
          22 May 2014 21: 25
          we must take weapons to the local population and beat the reptiles to Kiev itself and further .....
      2. 0
        23 May 2014 02: 24
        This will continue until they clear the shale deposits for the Americans.
    50. Palych9999
      0
      22 May 2014 20: 29
      The more they crumble each other, they will grow wiser.
      Although this is unlikely, they have such a genesis.
      1. +10
        22 May 2014 20: 59
        Today I remembered my grandfather, he moved from the White Church near Saratov ... so he always said that the ho holies would pay more ... everyone who wanted a "good" life went there to the USSR, the rent was three times lower, the salary was three times higher, there is meat, you can work less .. and so on. in the USSR, they shouted, including Donbass - we feed Russia .. how it got sick in 1993, they immediately remembered that they were Russians .. now there are those who have always been Russian- People, the rest are creatures who were looking for an easy life in the USSR or their descendants ... they must sip to the fullest in order to get off the couch and become People again!
        1. PM74
          +12
          22 May 2014 21: 51
          These are Russians. I want to say about the Westerners. At the end of the 80s, I boasted to Rivne region: Well, they say, we’ll run away from Russia, we’ll live. We’ll have everything, we will live better than in Europe. A quarter of a century has passed. The Russians are sitting on our neck, we’ll throw them off, we’ll immediately heal. It seems that they froze not even in the last century, in the last millennium
    51. +8
      22 May 2014 20: 33
      Kolomoisky and Porubiy should not meet 2015. This is how it turns out.
    52. +2
      22 May 2014 20: 33
      I’m tormented by the question why the militia doesn’t use... so to speak, modern carts, not a single photo or video .. vehicles equipped with machine guns and other weapons...... perhaps the terrain doesn’t allow it because they have already proven their effectiveness
      1. +3
        22 May 2014 21: 02
        Because it’s not a desert... and it’s easier to get lost in the forest and with light weapons it’s easier to fight, besides, they also got military equipment, they don’t have enough people to master many units
        1. +2
          22 May 2014 21: 47
          Desert, not desert - ZU23-2 can disassemble a lot of things for spare parts from a safe distance.
    53. SVD
      +4
      22 May 2014 20: 38
      Quote: DEZINTO
      "Glory to the Russian soldiers who have rolled so many ukrov."

      This is what you dear about. No need for such anger !!

      Ukrainians are fraternal people as before. But Bandera and pravossaki is no one!
      As in that question to the veteran - grandfather, how many people did you kill in the war ?, not at all my son, - And where did so many medals come from ?, -Fascists killed.

      you can’t say more precisely.

      I completely agree, it would be better, of course, to disarm them and talk again. But it’s too late, there will be more bitterness.
      1. Our hero
        -2
        22 May 2014 20: 49
        Do not confuse fascists and ordinary soldiers, who, by the way, took an oath of allegiance to their homeland (Ukraine) and who are carrying out orders. And orders are not discussed. Orders are being carried out. These soldiers are subordinate to their direct command, and not to the Verkhovna Rada and the Prizerdent or whoever is in charge there... They had an order to arrive at the place and they carried it out, but those who shot them are KILLERS! Murderers who do not know what an oath to the motherland, honor and conscience are. No matter how they try to portray this massacre as a struggle for freedom, it is still a massacre.
        1. +5
          22 May 2014 21: 49
          This is not a kindergarten. The government in Ukraine is not legitimate.
          So teach this baby talk to others.
          You don't understand basic things.
        2. +5
          22 May 2014 21: 49
          You are not right. The oath does not give you the right to kill your people on the orders of the enemies of your people.
          1. +4
            23 May 2014 01: 31
            Who is the oath to? Let's get the facts straight together.
            Comes as a result of a REVOLUTION, i.e. overthrow of legitimate authority, not legitimate authority. CRIMINALS come to power thanks to FOREIGN financial and military assistance. The army at this moment, according to the LAW, should have immediately intervened and RESTORED LEGAL POWER. If the ARMY did not do this, then it itself is criminal and itself violated the oath. All members of this army are FREE OF OATH. And those who remained, of course, the salary is more than life, and it doesn’t matter who and what to kiss.
            Therefore, this is no longer an army, but a mercenary military formation headed by illegally appointed leaders. Continue further?
            And enough for some ignoramuses to repeat the mantra about the oath.
            The oath is given to the legitimate government chosen by the people, and not to a military junta, even one headed by the Minister of Defense.
            Everything else is baby talk.
            -----------
            That’s why the Ukrainian juntas want ELECTIONS so much!
            And before the elections, INTERIMATE the rest of the population, the other part is already DUMPED.
    54. +5
      22 May 2014 20: 42
      This is a civil war... and the saddest thing is that this is just the beginning... In the end, normal people will also be drawn in..
    55. +3
      22 May 2014 20: 54
      Strelkov is a man. Respect.
      Guerrilla tactics by lightly armed units against heavily armed units are always effective. (Who else, if not the Ukrainians, should know about this).
    56. +2
      22 May 2014 20: 58
      So much for the glory of the heroes! Their mother...!
    57. +2
      22 May 2014 21: 00
      in short... it's a murky matter!
    58. +6
      22 May 2014 21: 01
      Hitler is jumping up and down in the frying pan with joy - the Slavs are solving the Slavic question by killing each other.
      1. PM74
        +2
        22 May 2014 21: 28
        Come on YOU, it’s enough to read a history textbook to know: how the Slavs selflessly slaughter each other, long before Hitler, I’m afraid that this will happen after us. It’s a pity, of course. But, you must admit, some of the right-wing freaks and you would put a knife on delivered. And they treat us the same way.
    59. +3
      22 May 2014 21: 02
      Quote: Capitalist
      Kolomoisk collector cars are also popular among militias. It’s easier to get them than armored vehicles, but there’s some sense. Recently, according to rumors, about two dozen were stolen.


      Where are the Helicopters from? Eh, it’s a pity that two fraternal Slavic peoples collided head-on
    60. PM74
      +2
      22 May 2014 21: 02
      Oh, damn it. Well, don’t you understand that a checkpoint is not only control over a section of the road and adjacent territories. This is, first of all, information: Who? What? Where? Why? Believe me, those two Life News journalists were received after a signal from exactly the same block, in which there are exactly the same conscripts who also do not want to fight. And you want to say that they take some kind of neutral position?
    61. maks maksimenko
      0
      22 May 2014 21: 11
      and in Russia the BANKS OF KOLOMOISK PRIVAT-BANKS ARE THRIVING....
    62. maks maksimenko
      0
      22 May 2014 21: 13
      .....we need to fight back against all this!!!! the easiest thing to say! troops home! figure it out yourself!!!!!
    63. 0
      22 May 2014 21: 15
      Did you notice that at 1:41 there is blood on the BMD side?
    64. +2
      22 May 2014 21: 19
      I'm sure the PS are muddying the waters, they understand that the mament will come and they will be salted, they raise their price and seek goranty, peace is not profitable for them, although the further they go, the more terrible they will be when they see that the National Guard of the SS, that the punitive forces of the PS, horseradish radishes are not sweeter than that of Kalama, all of them are the same the gallows awaits!
    65. +1
      22 May 2014 21: 21
      There is nothing worse and more merciless than civil war! When the strongest ties even family ones collapse! And the junta wants to start this war by all means! They have nothing to lose, and even if grass doesn’t grow after them, these Judas mattress makers will happily embrace them!
    66. Rosom
      0
      22 May 2014 21: 21
      so it’s clear who attacked. The militias have no helicopters.
    67. -2
      22 May 2014 21: 22
      Yes, there was no PS that shot innocent mobilized children from the Ukrainian army.

      There is no need to idealize the DPR. There is now a dirty struggle for power.
      And in the militia, not everyone is level 99 light elves, but there are also local criminals, a lot of them. And Donbass is not a land of polite gentlemen, but rather harsh and criminal.
      And don’t think that if the Svidomo Goebbels media lies 24 hours a day, then the DPR leadership is telling the truth and only the truth. Nobody canceled propaganda in order to raise morale and mobilize volunteers.

      It’s just that the Ukrainian military and those mobilized took too long to decide on their position. They are like elves, they thought that here the war between the militia and the Right Sectors and the National Guard was in full swing, and they would stand on the sidelines, drink and eat the cabbage soup of the local breadwinners. Like they don’t shoot at anyone and they don’t get shot at. And the National Guard will use their cover and checkpoints, their artillery, the Air Force, and fire from behind them.
      The militia is tired of this. In war, shades of gray are quickly erased, there are our own and there are strangers. These soldiers had the opportunity to defect to the LPR/DPR side like their comrades in Slavyanak, or refuse to carry out any orders from the illegitimate Kyiv Junta, or at least desert. They chickened out.
      That's it. The militia arrived and shot them. Yes, I feel sorry for the little bad boys, but this is a dirty civil war. The first warning to the elf soldiers was in early May, when their column was shot.
      No one will mess with them, “he who is not with us is against us” as be.
      1. +3
        22 May 2014 21: 49
        ambiorix - are you kidding me like this or is it your nature - chronic nonsense. Don’t make non-humans out of the militias - don’t, they don’t deserve it. They are not fascists, but simply defenders of their land
        1. +1
          22 May 2014 22: 13
          I’m not kidding, I’m practically quoting Igor Ivanovich Strelkov. Here it was necessary to cite its entire text, and not a stub.

          http://summer56.livejournal.com/119139.html
          1. +4
            22 May 2014 22: 23
            No, you’re still kidding me. Yeah, the militia flew in in helicopters and killed almost everyone and that’s it belay
            Do you seriously believe that the militia has helicopters or is it possible to awaken from sleep those who are “sleeping” on the sidelines? belay
            1. -2
              22 May 2014 22: 46
              Igor Ivanovich has already commented on helicopters:
              "What's surprising then? We arrived late and struck where (as they thought) the enemy was still located. And there were only their unfinished ones ... And the Privatbank armored car, knocked out during the battle and thrown by the attackers. Possibly losses as a result, ours have a lot added. But here I cannot say. "

              http://summer56.livejournal.com/119754.html

              No need to juggle
      2. PM74
        +2
        22 May 2014 22: 34
        Who should we idealize? Those who burned the unarmed in Odessa? Or those who opposed them? I always wanted to argue with an adequate person. But on your part, after a couple of arguments, there was only abuse and threats. Answer a simple question: What the meaning of your Maidan?
        1. 0
          22 May 2014 22: 47
          What is my Maidan? In general, I am from Donetsk and against the Maidan and the Kyiv fascists.
          You messed up something
          1. PM74
            0
            23 May 2014 03: 10
            I apologize. Question number two: according to your statements above, you are trying to find the truth. I don’t argue, you know better. What will happen when those same ones from Odessa come to you?
    68. +1
      22 May 2014 21: 23
      Quote: Aleksey11
      And we must take into account that the military generally do not understand with whom they are fighting and why. It's just "cannon fodder".


      It’s just that the military understands that you can’t shoot at unarmed people, but when Banderlogs stand behind you, they shoot, but at the wrong people.
      Yes, they are cannon fodder and fools.
      None of them are normal, adequate, they are Rams, because they knew that anyway they were not alone, others would kill them.
      It’s a pity that the “militarized herd” died without honor, but they could have served the people.
    69. machinetchik_39
      +7
      22 May 2014 21: 24
      I feel sorry for those who were killed purely as a human being. The video from the previous day shows young animals, no experience, no motivation. They sit dejectedly, eat what the locals brought, cucumbers in three-liter bottles, bottles of water... No security, zero discipline. If there were fagots from Pravoseki or the internal battalion “Donbass” and the like, I would have given a standing ovation, but here I have mixed feelings. After all, the sons of Turchinov, Avakov and others did not fall under any mobilization, and will not remain lying in the cabbage beds. This is a terrible thing, a civil war.
      1. +5
        22 May 2014 21: 51
        Of course I feel sorry for the guys. Who's arguing?
        The Kolomoiskys, Valtsmans (Poroshenkos), Yaroshis are pitting the SLAVS against each other.
        They don’t go on their own - familiar handwriting?
        I have already written, I will write again:
        Kolomoisky fighters attacked servicemen for refusing to fight
        http://warfiles.ru/show-57490-boycy-kolomoyskogo-atakovali-
        voennosluzhaschih-za-otkaz-voevat.html
        ------------
        And then they will blame the militias.
        Oh, military, military, between the two chairs they want to sit. You can not play with bandits.
        Or go to the side of the people or leave the Ukrainian army. Yes, right to us.
        And Kalomoisky, play out. Bulletproof.
    70. +5
      22 May 2014 21: 26
      Just yesterday I read on Vershinin’s blog that the junta is preparing a provocation. He didn’t reveal the details there, but today he came home late from work, read it, and here’s Grandma and St. George’s Day - 15 corpses. The news was here
      http://putnik1.livejournal.com/3130879.html
    71. Kraknobrd
      +4
      22 May 2014 21: 27
      The only bad thing is that Ukrainians kill Ukrainians. And no matter how you look at it - some are “cowards” or others are “heroes”, the clique of freaks that is now sitting in Kyiv is to blame for this.
    72. Nicholas
      -3
      22 May 2014 21: 42
      k.u.Y. n. I . all this. this is just the beginning. “Not water” will flow in the summer and autumn of Tavria, Odessa, closer to the sea. The “dogs” will try to hold onto this tasty morsel with their teeth. but the journalists will not be released, the OSCE handed them over. But Russia WILL NOT BE ABLE TO DO ANYTHING. IMHO
    73. tokin1959
      +1
      22 May 2014 21: 44
      shooting this checkpoint is like the hellish hundred on the Maidan.
      to add fuel to the fire, to make people bleed.
      Well, like, this is what these militias are like, not militias at all, but terrorists.
      They supposedly shot innocent boys.
      Pravosek killed, their style.
    74. +3
      22 May 2014 21: 52
      Traaandian. I read this battle on the Ukrop website, in general, the same quote from Strelkov about ostriches, about the fact that they have not decided... and at the end they attributed to him the words uro provocateurs!!!! :-

      From the purely military point of view, I do not think that the event will somehow change the balance of power. The defeat of the bloc will have at the same time a demoralizing and mobilizing effect on the enemy. In the next blocks they will prepare for the “meeting”, but the desire to fight for real is unlikely to increase. Maybe, nevertheless, someone will overcome the total stupidity and cowardice in himself and finally decide at least to desert.
      It was not a column, but a temporary checkpoint. Completely (due to laziness, sloppiness and indifference of the commanders) unequipped. DPR forces attacked. One of the groups subordinate to me also took part in the attack."

      And with this they set the sssu forum on fire there... and they work!!! They breed hatred!
    75. GHG
      GHG
      +4
      22 May 2014 21: 53
      Video from the “other” side. They themselves didn’t understand shit there.

    76. +6
      22 May 2014 21: 58
      Gentlemen Ukrainian officers!!!! Would you go to Thailand for a day...maybe you could learn something useful...
    77. +3
      22 May 2014 22: 17
      There was no security posted, the cars were in a heap, they went to bed with the thought - my hut is on the edge. Untrained, with a mess in their head. The result is clear and logical. Maybe one of the forum members will tell you what would have happened to the gopota in the cash-in-transit armored cars if they had been met with fire by a trained crew BMP-2?
      1. +2
        22 May 2014 22: 24
        It would be a big mess!!!!!
      2. +2
        22 May 2014 22: 30
        This is what I think: the warriors stood there and let’s say they didn’t touch anyone. Yes, the militia came to them and had a conversation with who they were and how. The warriors apparently agreed with the militia that they would not shoot anyone, but would simply stand. As they say, that’s what they decided But how could the soldiers know that they would be shot by those from whom it was least expected.
        Found an article:
        “Kolomoisky’s militants forced the soldiers to their knees before execution”
        link to article and video:http://lifenews.ru/news/133652
        1. +2
          22 May 2014 22: 52
          I agree with you, but where is the security?! Where is the sentry? Where is the alert shift (on duty crew)? Who knows what’s going on in the Ukrainian army.
    78. +5
      22 May 2014 22: 42
      It’s high time for the Ukrainian army to understand that they are meat for the Right Sector. And if they try to sit out, they will quickly turn from living meat into carrion.
    79. +13
      22 May 2014 22: 42
      Quote: BYV
      Strelkov clearly made it clear that this was the work of the militia.


      Excuse me generously, I re-read it twice - where exactly did Strelkov say this?

      Quote: Saratovets
      I am a historian ... In the Navy, Admiral Kuznetsov introduced a combat readiness system.
      as a result, the Fleet, unlike the army, met the Germans as expected ... both in the tail and in the mane, nothing prevented Stalin from introducing the same system into the army. And mobilization plans (in terms of industry - evacuation, etc.) were adopted in 1936 and before the war were not adjusted! and much more


      You are a historian - you have the information that is accessible and generally known, and I am a military man - and in ..... we were taught the beginning of the war somewhat differently .... Experienced teachers, having studied the combat reports of the first days, have long come to the conclusion that all the successes of the Germans in the initial period were planned in advance... With the help of the top of the Red Army, which was then “repressed” by Stalin. These are outwardly ridiculous orders that drove 4 mechanized corps at night and in the end, due to failure (motor resource) and the end of fuel, 1000 T-34 and KV-1 tanks were abandoned in the Lvov forests, these are also the treacherous orders of the chief of staff of the Belarusian Klimovskys, who framed strike at Brest by three divisions, incomprehensible inaction of the commander of the 4th Korobkov in Kovel.... Do you even know that on June 21 an order was received to withdraw the armored vehicles of three divisions to the training ground and line them up for inspection on Monday June 23??? The training ground was located practically on the bank of the Bug and the Germans shot at the equipment with direct fire... They fought in the server and south, but the center immediately broke through and pulled the rest with it... A hole in the Brest area where three divisions literally evaporated, or rather, they were not withdrawn from the city and the fortress and they died there in heaps... All this was hushed up all the years... Zhukov was not allowed to write truthful memoirs, there is an interview online where he talks about this before his death...

      The slandered Budyonny, commanding the southern direction, for some reason met the enemy fully armed and not only repelled, but also transferred the fighting to his territory.... The Air Force met the Germans right above the Danube and the first German plane crashed 7 minutes later into the Danube....

      Read the out-of-print memoirs of L.M. Sandalov from 1961, “Experienced”, just for your horizons - by the way, you will understand why they were pushed back.

      http://istclub.ru/topic/925-%D0%B3%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%BB-%D0%BB%D0
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    80. +6
      22 May 2014 22: 58
      Quote: ambiorix
      I’m not kidding, I’m practically quoting Igor Ivanovich Strelkov. Here it was necessary to cite its entire text, and not a stub.

      http://summer56.livejournal.com/119139.html


      This is a fake, the site has been up for two days now, Strelkov didn’t write anything, this is Ukropov’s fake.... His true phrases and reports are taken and one or two lines are added that distort the full meaning.

      The video of the battle was filmed by a local resident and hung on YouTube for probably an hour..... It shows how the Mi-24 launches a couple of nurses and hits something in the field, which explodes with a huge puff of smoke. Although we are waiting - in the north of the region the army is attacking, not the Right Sector, using artillery and the same helicopters...

      Quote: GES
      Video from the “other” side. They themselves didn’t understand shit there.
      the ammunition in the BMD exploded.... No signals for interaction with helicopters, nothing... oh my God, every fighter knew how to “talk” to pilots with a machine gun in two hands, what signs and how to give
      1. BYV
        0
        23 May 2014 01: 35
        Quote: Santor
        This is a fake, the site has been down for two days, Strelkov didn’t write anything, this is a Ukropov fake...

        Let's start with the fact that summer56 is there, and it's not a fake. Ask Egoza. And the “Russian Spring” collapsed only in the evening. She worked great during the day. Most likely, you confused rusvesna.SU and rusvesna.INFO The latest fake.
    81. fedul
      +3
      22 May 2014 23: 01
      It seems that the Ukrainian army will not be able to sit out “quietly”. Either submit to the Pravosek forces, or go over to the side of Novorossiya.
    82. I_VOIN_I
      +4
      22 May 2014 23: 09
      "Pavel Gubarev: Near Volnovakha, Right Sector militants shot soldiers of the Ukrainian Armed Forces and want to blame the DPR for this."
      1. +2
        23 May 2014 00: 18
        I had no doubt about it. This is the handwriting of Yarosh and Kalomoisky.
        They do everything to incite hatred towards Russians.
        This is completely consistent with the policy of Yarosh, who has repeatedly stated that he will not leave the Russians in Ukraine.
        The Jew Yarosh hides behind fascist slogans. The goals are different. Yarosh is fooling everyone, including the stupid Banderaites.
        1. +5
          23 May 2014 00: 36
          Quote: Turkir
          This is the handwriting of Yarosh and Kalomoisky

          this is CIA handwriting
    83. +2
      22 May 2014 23: 12
      Quote: Elbow
      There’s a lot of strange


      That's it! no information!
    84. +4
      22 May 2014 23: 16
      Quote: andj61
      One of the surviving officers, he did not allow his face to be removed, and said that these attackers were not local, they came from Dnepropetrovsk

      As they say, look for who benefits! And this is beneficial, first of all, to the Kyiv junta, which is unable to force the army to fight! Therefore, her chain dog Benya Kolomoisky, in the “best traditions” of the fascists, staged another provocation (before that there was a massacre in the house of trade unions in Odessa) in order to blame new victims on the “separatists” and “wind up” the people so that they began to take revenge and, finally, The massacre has begun! And there it will be possible to turn to NATO for help!
    85. +3
      22 May 2014 23: 22
      Russian Spring is attacked by hackers again!
    86. The comment was deleted.
    87. +4
      22 May 2014 23: 41
      Quote: tomcat117
      Quote: Aleksey11
      And we must take into account that the military generally do not understand with whom they are fighting and why. It's just "cannon fodder".


      It’s just that the military understands that you can’t shoot at unarmed people, but when Banderlogs stand behind you, they shoot, but at the wrong people.
      Yes, they are cannon fodder and fools.
      None of them are normal, adequate, they are Rams, because they knew that anyway they were not alone, others would kill them.
      It’s a pity that the “militarized herd” died without honor, but they could have served the people.


      I wanted to respond to those dwarfs who put minuses.
      What would you like for “soldier types” to eat and sleep when people are starving and do not sleep out of fear and then begin to iron the city? No, it won’t work, in war as in war, a soldier is created to die if necessary, but he is a defender first of all, and not a killer. I would watch how they or you sang if your relatives were bombed like that?
      There is nothing to protect such people if there is no order in the brain.
    88. +1
      22 May 2014 23: 51
      "What goes around comes around" request
    89. +2
      23 May 2014 00: 00
      ...."Don’t forget that it is not “Vympel” who is fighting, capable of cold-bloodedly shooting only enemy fighters and taking trophies untouched. The same militias arrived on two buses - only a little better trained. They, understandably, were not very eager to get turns from 30-mm guns and PKT at point-blank range. And first of all, they hit them. Maybe rightly so - the attackers were in the minority and from my own experience I can say - in such a situation it is unknown how the “sparing” actions would have ended.
      As for the “army men”, a truce was observed in our regard near Slavyansk for a very long time. But it gradually became more and more meaningless for us - because, under the cover of paratrooper checkpoints, the National Guard and the SBU inspected cars, grabbed our people and impeded our movements. The blockade is being carried out by the army, so should we immediately surrender, or something, so as not to shoot at the “bilized”? Besides, do you seriously think that the army is full of potential defectors? There are units here (the 95th Airmobile Brigade, for example) staffed almost entirely by completely brainwashed Westerners... They fight no better, though they don’t show much courage, but “m.a.s.k.” to kill al." (if they are so stupid that they find themselves without weapons) are quite ready.
      As for the “negative effect,” the truth would still come out in a day or two. Why be like the thief and pile lies on lies? I don't see the point. Successful operation of the DPR militia. That's all. The effect is both negative (for the enemy) and positive (for our own)..... http://summer56.livejournal.com/119139.html
    90. +3
      23 May 2014 00: 03

      video of helicopters firing
    91. +1
      23 May 2014 00: 21
      Quote: vorchyn_ymka
      people still do not understand what to hide and sit out will not work .. either for those or for these .. there will be no third .. they are like between a rock and a hard place .. that's just the question .. where it will be more painful .. well and in combat training .. anarchy is the mother of order .. all Ukrainians have it in the blood in the process .. well, I'm afraid .. well, I don’t want to fight .. but prepare the position .. the flight will arrive not childishly .. they still shoot ... what happened .. sorry for the people .. maybe on their example others will learn ..

      Many are afraid for their families, from dill conscripts! Death threat!
      Just a stalemate! The generals and the army can be saved if entire units go over to the Donetsk side!!!
    92. 0
      23 May 2014 00: 22
      Explanations from Strelkov are fake. As they say, “And then Strelkov called for air support.” Don't you find it funny yourself?
    93. Vyacheslav0206
      0
      23 May 2014 00: 32
      The situation is deplorable and nightmarish!! Here many compare the Civil War with various kinds of National Guards and other riff-raff, saying that the boys took an oath. I’ll answer in a simple way FOR THE MONEY THEY SWEARED AND NOW LET THEM PAY WITH BLOOD. Alas, but so. The army is not actually fighting there, and all sorts of DONBASS-1 DONBASS-2 National Guardsmen and others pay them, they kill and whom they have the same commandment and slogan. SALA TO THE HEROES! Comparing with Chechnya is stupid. It’s just a different picture and a different plot. Here, obviously, the east, as well as the south, rebelled against the illegitimate government that is now sending guys to the slaughter. By the way, there were cases when soldiers wanted to go over to the side of the PEOPLE and they were shot. The information is reliable because I communicate with friends in Slavyansk. This is also when a police department was shot in Mariupol in broad daylight. In general, this battle proved that the victims will only increase. the gopota KOLOMOYTSA is not trained and this is good, which means it will be easier for the people to shoot them. And in the end, while all forces are thrown to the east, after May 25 in Kiev a new coup will begin and then the real wedding in the robin will begin.
    94. +2
      23 May 2014 00: 32
      Quote: ambiorix
      I’m not kidding, I’m practically quoting Igor Ivanovich Strelkov. Here it was necessary to cite its entire text, and not a stub.

      Why do you believe so much in everything they write? These are not his words.
      P.S. I watched the video and just wow..... On a cell phone to someone there - “Do you have access to aviation? They are hammering at us.” It's fabulous.
      1. 0
        23 May 2014 01: 16
        and what could they do? They wouldn’t find their own ends and finish ironing them.
      2. BYV
        0
        23 May 2014 01: 42
        Quote: Rodriques
        Why do you believe so much in everything they write? These are not his words.

        http://summer56.livejournal.com/2014/05/22/
        Believe me, this is not fake. Summer56 is there (ask Egoza). If you don’t believe me, read the archive for the previous days and see for yourself.
    95. 0
      23 May 2014 01: 46
      Was it worth destroying (in principle, loyal) military personnel? Not foreign mercenaries, not right-wingers, just worthless idiots.
      1. BYV
        0
        23 May 2014 01: 55
        If you remember, the junta was given an ultimatum. They ignored him and pulled together equipment and personnel. They opened fire and attempted an assault. What are your actions in this situation?
    96. Vlad Gore
      0
      23 May 2014 01: 53
      Quote: rumpeljschtizhen
      I’m tormented by the question why the militia doesn’t use... so to speak, modern carts, not a single photo or video .. vehicles equipped with machine guns and other weapons...... perhaps the terrain doesn’t allow it because they have already proven their effectiveness

      This combination is good where the enemy does not have aviation. And so they will throw NURS from a “safe distance”. And for ordinary snipers it’s a convenient target. Yes
    97. 0
      23 May 2014 02: 26
      This is how the Kalomoi people raised the morale of the army. Only the army will be notified that this is the work of the militias
    98. Ivan Vasilievich Grozny
      0
      23 May 2014 03: 36
      Well, Turchina - well done! He himself killed his own fighters from helicopters or from the ground, and blamed everything on “terrorists.” I wish I could learn to lie to my wife like that—not a single muscle flinched on my face. Moreover, he managed to announce mourning for the dead. Well, two-faced! And who brought these boys there, my dear! Yes, this whole junta with their families will be cursed by the people someday. They will scare children with their last names! Donetsk and Lugansk, guys, hold on! We are with you! I hope in the summer after the elections everything should settle down. Poroshenko may not be an angel from heaven, but at least not such a fanatic as Yaroshi-Tyagnibok. I hope that he has enough brains to end the war. Otherwise, hundreds and thousands of coffins will continue to float from east to west of Ukraine.
    99. 0
      23 May 2014 05: 07
      It’s a pity that everything is happening this way, the fraternal peoples still won’t understand who is in power, and on the other hand, who will need them after taking the oath twice. We need to somehow carefully change the power in Kyiv, specifically, although of course I know better sitting in the office, damn it!
    100. +1
      23 May 2014 05: 32
      Do you really want to go to Europe? - Undress, lubricate your butt, - This process is unworthy, - Op... And you are already in the EU!

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