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What is the US government looking for in Ukraine?

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AUTHOR - Congressman RON POL

During the past week, troops in a number of cities in eastern Ukraine opened fire on their own citizens. Apparently, the result of this violence was the death of dozens of people. Despite the fact that the United States, as a rule, condemns the use of force by the governments of countries against their own people (especially when it comes to unarmed protesters), this time the administration of the American president places the blame on the victims of violence, writes antiwar.com.

So, on May 9 in Ukraine killed at least 30 unarmed demonstrators, and the State Department said: "we condemn the outbreak of violence provoked by pro-Russian separatists."

Why do residents of eastern Ukraine protest? But because they do not believe the government, which came to power in February as a result of the uprising supported by the United States: people do not believe in the legitimacy of this government. They do not recognize the authority of an unselected "president" and "prime minister."

The US calls these events a project organized by Russia to destabilize the situation, but is it difficult to realize that the people of Ukraine can simply be angry about the participation of the US and the EU in the process of changing the ruling regime in their country? Are we here in Washington willingly accepted by anyone an unelected government, enthroned with the support of the Chinese or Iranians?

At the beginning of this year, the US State Department provided tremendous support by participating in a project to overthrow the Ukrainian government. The United States at that time warned the Ukrainian government that it should not take any action against those who took to the streets, even if they provoke violence and seize state buildings.

But as soon as these former protesters came to power, the United States demonstrated a completely different approach to protest actions. Today, they wholeheartedly support the bloody suppression of resistance by activists in the east. Last week, the State Department said: “We continue to call for groups that endanger public order, who have taken weapon and exciting state institutions in violation of the laws of Ukraine, towards disarmament and freeing the captured buildings. " Do the State Department believe that the rest of the world does not see this hypocrisy?

Residents of eastern Ukraine have always been closer to Russia than to the US or the EU. In reality, this part of Ukraine was part of Russia. After the February change of the ruling regime, officials in the east of the country announced their intention to hold a referendum on independence from the American-backed Kiev government.
The United States demanded that President Putin stop the east of Ukraine and prevent a referendum. By the way, last week the Russian president did just that: he said that now there should be no referendum. Eastern Ukrainians ignored his words and said that in any case they would hold a plebiscite. So what about the statements of the United States that Russia controls the opposition in Ukraine?

And despite the fact that the President of the Russian Federation fulfilled the requirements of the United States and asked Eastern Ukrainians to postpone the referendum, the State Department said that the United States intends to impose additional sanctions against Russia in the event that a referendum takes place! Does this make any sense?

And the real question that needs attention is the following: for what reasons does the US government interfere in the affairs of Ukraine? We are ruined. We can not even afford to restore order in our own economy. However, we want to rule Ukraine. Does the personality of the one whom Ukrainians choose to represent their interests plays for us at least some role? Is it really so important for our national security to take the risk of unleashing a nuclear war with Russia over the Ukrainian referendum? What prevents us from regional autonomy and weakened central government? Is it not in this format that the United States originally thought?

Does the presumption of the administration of the United States, the notion that Americans should rule the world, really bring us to the brink of another war in Europe? Let's hope that they will give up such a dangerous game and come to their senses. I will say one thing - let's not allow any wars for Ukraine!
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  1. Yellow white
    Yellow white 13 May 2014 13: 10
    +10
    Well, at least one turned out to be sane, go vote in the election against all ...
    1. Hariva
      Hariva 13 May 2014 13: 17
      +17
      I have already heard the phrase "at least one sane" in relation to ten Western politicians. The other day, only Schroeder was singing praises.
      1. WKS
        WKS 13 May 2014 13: 34
        +7
        Quote: Hariva
        I have already heard the phrase "at least one sane" in relation to ten Western politicians. The other day, only Schroeder was singing praises.

        You are right, there are no sane enemies. There are cunning, cowardly, cautious, etc., but still they are all enemies. You can listen to their opinion, but at the same time we must remember that they will never wish us well. Only our power, firstly - military and then economic, is able to induce them to the statements given in the article. Out of courtesy, we will diplomatically call them "partners".
      2. wasjasibirjac
        wasjasibirjac 13 May 2014 16: 28
        0
        Quote: Hariva
        I have already heard the phrase "at least one sane" in relation to ten Western politicians. The other day, only Schroeder was singing praises.

        well, counted individually, i.e. it can be said that ONE SUSTAINABLE Western politician appeared.
    2. Hans51
      Hans51 13 May 2014 13: 19
      +26
      Obama with his monkey monkey didn’t understand anything! Sooner or later we will unite, and our answer to the mattresses will be overwhelming for them!
      1. v245721
        v245721 13 May 2014 14: 00
        +8
        these are the true words of a man who cares for the Russian nation. KNOWLEDGE not by hearsay, but survived the pain of schism. and the rest is words, words, words. there are few such people in Russia, but they did a lot, GREAT PRINCE VLADIMIR, IVAN GROZNY, PETER FIRST. I THINK AND VLADIMIR PUTIN, WILL RISE ONE WITH THESE HEROES AND DEFENDERS OF RUSSIA.
      2. 1812 1945
        1812 1945 13 May 2014 14: 09
        +3
        Quote: Hans51
        Obama with his monkey monkey didn’t understand anything! Sooner or later we will unite, and our answer to the mattresses will be overwhelming for them!

        It should be. The Pan-Slavic Union must become a stabilizing factor in the world. Their own prophet, Edgar Cayce, predicted something similar ... So no! The descendants of bydityina from all over Europe escaped from the law to the New World and created a state in their own image and likeness! I hope that they will find their grave in Ukraine!
      3. Gloria45
        Gloria45 13 May 2014 14: 09
        +8
        I have familiar Serbs, Croats, Macedonians, wonderful people, it is a pleasure to communicate with them.
        Yes, and the Czechs are normal, although it is believed that the Czechs are nationalists, Poles more difficult to communicate. In general, among Slavs, the reasoning is arranged somehow in a special way.
        No offense to other nations, but the Slavs are more intelligent,
        probably because the historically difficult fate of our peoples.
      4. Sandov
        Sandov 13 May 2014 14: 59
        +4
        Quote: Hans51
        Obama with his monkey monkey didn’t understand anything! Sooner or later we will unite, and our answer to the mattresses will be overwhelming for them!

        Americans by the hands of the Slavs destroy the Slavs, poison the people and cherish the bandits. How to stop these killers?
    3. sonik-007
      sonik-007 13 May 2014 13: 20
      +4
      No, he is the same as everyone else. He is simply opposing himself to other "hawkish" candidates in the wake of anti-war sentiment. He earns political capital for himself and attracts an appropriate electorate. If he becomes president, under pressure from the military lobby, he will also go anywhere.
      Nothing but money ... hi
    4. Wels75
      Wels75 13 May 2014 13: 30
      +11
      This Ron Paul ran for three times as president of the United States. so an authoritative uncle.

      Again, a masterpiece of logical conclusions of the United States, the author noticed
      "The US demanded that President Putin stop the east of Ukraine and prevent a referendum. By the way, last week the Russian president did just that: he said that a referendum should not be held now. Eastern Ukrainians ignored his words and said that in any case they would hold a plebiscite. So what about the US statements that Russia controls the opposition in Ukraine?...
      ... and despite the fact that Russian president fulfills US requirements and asked the eastern Ukrainians to postpone the referendum, The State Department said that the United States intends to impose additional sanctions against Russia if a referendum takes place!

      circus and only. Shiz mows the ranks of the valiant democrats pen.dos.tana !!
      1. zanoza
        zanoza 13 May 2014 15: 22
        +2
        ... "The greatest threat to US national security, Gates replied, is the two square miles on which the Capitol and the White House stand."
        (Former CIA Secretary and Ex-Director Robert Gates Vesti.RU)
        Here is another American politician "kindle".
        PRORUDORUB he however!
    5. tux
      tux 13 May 2014 13: 44
      +1
      Quote: Black and White
      Well, at least one turned out to be sane, go vote in the election against all ...


      Yes, he is not the only one, but they prefer not to notice or listen
  2. bulvas
    bulvas 13 May 2014 13: 11
    +5
    Sooner or later, they (the United States) will leave Ukraine, as they once left Afghanistan, Iraq and other places where they introduced their democracy

    Get bogged down, the OSBOU will leave as usual

    Because their goal is to get money from the budget for war, and then for restoration

    When everyone sucks from the budget, what’s possible - they’ll leave


    1. Hariva
      Hariva 13 May 2014 13: 21
      +3
      Ndaaa. America is impoverished. From Ukraine, there’s nothing special to suck.
      With the world on a string - Obama shirt.
      1. bulvas
        bulvas 13 May 2014 13: 26
        +2
        Quote: Hariva
        From Ukraine, there’s nothing special to suck.



        They pump just from their budget, the United States.

        Companies involved in rebuilding a ruined country are owned by contractors from the U.S. Department of Defense, and they have the double benefit of first supplying a military operation, then rebuilding a ruined country.

        And of course, they build everything for themselves, sharpen the economy for their future supplies
    2. Gloria45
      Gloria45 13 May 2014 13: 36
      +4
      Quote: bulvas
      Sooner or later, they (the United States) will leave Ukraine, as they once left Afghanistan, Iraq and other places where they introduced their democracy

      Get bogged down, the OSBOU will leave as usual

      Because their goal is to get money from the budget for war, and then for restoration

      When everyone sucks from the budget, what’s possible - they’ll leave

      In Afghanistan, they brought their order for at least 10 years.
      What does Ukraine expect the same? And, as you say, they will get offended and leave. At the cost of the lives of innocent people? And so far, that they have beaten in Ukraine everything they could.
      1. bulvas
        bulvas 13 May 2014 14: 15
        +1
        Quote: gloria45
        In Afghanistan, they brought their order for at least 10 years.
        What does Ukraine expect the same? And, as you say, they will get offended and leave. At the cost of the lives of innocent people? And so far, that they have beaten in Ukraine everything they could.



        Do not panic, Ukraine is not Afghanistan, besides Russia was not there.

        Therefore, everything will be different and their failure will be deafening, if not fatal for them.

        We see and know too little, in order to judge, we can only worry about people.

        In fact, the whole operation is much larger than we see, I think the purpose of the operation on our part is not the individual regions of Ukraine, but the whole Ukraine
        1. Gloria45
          Gloria45 13 May 2014 14: 51
          0
          Yes, indeed, the scale of enslavement, even rather destruction, of the peoples of the world is enormous. Now all our attention is focused on Ukraine, but the things that are happening
          in the East, Africa is no less tragic. I saw photographs of Arabs crucified on crosses, stained or photos, I don’t remember which country, market, meat counter and sale a fried human leg, with the inscription Fried leg of a Muslim, of course, I can not believe the reality of this, although, on the other hand everything may be, the world is completely crazy.
          And by the way, I met information that already in Brazil, these creatures are up to the same thing. This may well be, because Brazil is Russia's ally in the BRICS.
  3. Good cat
    Good cat 13 May 2014 13: 11
    +4
    Gentlemen of mattresses cannot believe in any way that they are not the "beacons of democracy" in the world, and that "democracy" is their thing with a fair smell. Dizzy from the successes of the 90s.
  4. e_krendel
    e_krendel 13 May 2014 13: 12
    +11
    Although relatively sane, he still did not understand anything and misinterpreted everything. The war is not for Ukraine, but against Russia!
    1. from punk
      from punk 13 May 2014 13: 15
      +5
      Quote: e_krendel
      Although relatively sane, he still did not understand anything and misinterpreted everything. The war is not for Ukraine, but against Russia!

      Yes, exactly like that. Against Russia. The state of Ukraine is no more.
  5. Sterlya
    Sterlya 13 May 2014 13: 12
    +5
    America intervenes in the internal affairs of Ukraine, they staged a military coup. as in many countries.
    When will it end? Or when will we finish them? So they are already tired of everyone
  6. mig31
    mig31 13 May 2014 13: 12
    +2
    It is hard to believe that his words will reach the ears of the State Department ...
  7. APS
    APS 13 May 2014 13: 13
    +3
    If you unleash a war in Ukraine, you will have to take a walk to Washington and poke your nose into your own! Do we need a war in Ukraine ... - the question is not so necessary - but do we need a war in the USA?
  8. PRN
    PRN 13 May 2014 13: 15
    +5
    What is the US government looking for in Ukraine? - OUR KILL !!!
    1. Buran
      Buran 13 May 2014 14: 40
      +1
      What they seek, what they seek ...


      ...found already!
  9. VNP1958PVN
    VNP1958PVN 13 May 2014 13: 15
    +5
    A voice crying in the desert. The American press will not print this! yes
  10. sergej30003
    sergej30003 13 May 2014 13: 19
    +1
    but in general it is necessary to call a spade a spade, the pro-American troops of the military pounds of Kiev, sponsored by the West, unleashed a civil war in Ukraine .....
  11. Altona
    Altona 13 May 2014 13: 20
    +1
    The American paper tiger and the right-wing Banderlogists decided that they could rule the world ... Almost the scenario of "Mowgli" by R. Kipling in a modern version ...
  12. Commissar
    Commissar 13 May 2014 13: 21
    +2
    He is not the only one responsible, but his voice is just a minuscule compared to what the Amer mass media scream. Since the vast majority of amers besides their stomach and wallet do not care about anything else, then they need to be pressed only for their redneck. Say sanctions against Russia will hit your wallets. Then they can and listen to the voice of reason. And so - these conversations in favor of the poor.
  13. sufix
    sufix 13 May 2014 13: 21
    +1
    Unfortunately, the American is ruled by the lobby. Corporations need contracts for the development of natural resources and Russia for them as a large piece of cake. Power pulls the whole country into war, and ordinary people will suffer. So this senator speaks correctly, because this also affects him.
  14. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 13 May 2014 13: 22
    +1
    What are they looking for? .. They want to write off their huge debts (at someone else’s expense) by arranging another slaughter in Europe (in the Middle East, it has been blazing for a long time ..)
  15. Roman1970
    Roman1970 13 May 2014 13: 23
    +3
    It is clear what they are looking for ... Control over the country and NATO’s eastward expansion ... What is unclear here? And the State Department will not hear anyone’s words, and will not listen, he spat on them. The United States will understand ONLY the language of power (military or financial), while loyalty and tolerance will be perceived as weakness.
  16. GRAY
    GRAY 13 May 2014 13: 23
    +3
    Deputy Efremov sets Moscow Turchinov. Honestly, I strongly doubt the success of this operation.
    1. from punk
      from punk 13 May 2014 16: 44
      0
      Quote: GRAY
      Deputy Efremov sets Moscow Turchinov. Honestly, I strongly doubt the success of this operation.

      Turchynov already screaming in the rad that they all lie and the communists and regionals and the operation will continue.
    2. zeleznijdorojnik
      zeleznijdorojnik 14 May 2014 21: 01
      0
      And the deputy - well done - was not afraid like this to say everything openly, knowing that in the evening right-wingers could come to him and cut off his head in front of his wife and children. Do we have such interesting ones?
  17. kodxnumx
    kodxnumx 13 May 2014 13: 23
    +1
    What can the United States look for in Ukraine, I think, apart from their own shame and humiliation as a superpower in Ukraine from RUSSIA, they will get it, it’s not so long to wait, what to do, history doesn’t teach people yet how s.r.a.s. .x cats with their noses in their own e.r.m.o. again Russia mother doesn’t poke the United States as I understand it doesn’t calm down.
  18. Havoc
    Havoc 13 May 2014 13: 23
    +2
    The wrong country was called Honduras.
    1. Altona
      Altona 13 May 2014 18: 36
      0
      The country is called de Onduras, Tegucigalpa is a beautiful city ... The richest and most beautiful country ... The mild climate and luxurious nature, a lot of minerals - gold and rare earth metals ...
  19. xbhxbr-777
    xbhxbr-777 13 May 2014 13: 23
    +1
    I think that the states will have to weave their own noses into their own! They don’t understand otherwise, because the war is practically going on in Ukraine. And it's time to drive these bastards from the Donbass land!
  20. chastener
    chastener 13 May 2014 13: 24
    +7
    More and more people from the West are beginning to understand the truth. This can not but rejoice!
  21. Naum
    Naum 13 May 2014 13: 25
    +3
    The United States is imperceptibly turning into a state hated by the whole world. Wherever the mattress covers go, blood is shedding everywhere and people are dying. And in this bloody mess they make their vile gesheft. Their well-being rests on the calamities and poverty of hundreds of millions of people, and this cannot continue indefinitely! The final is ahead.
  22. Puler
    Puler 13 May 2014 13: 28
    0
    Amrikos in Ukraine seek their death ...
  23. x.andvlad
    x.andvlad 13 May 2014 13: 30
    0
    but is it difficult to realize that the people of Ukraine may simply be angry over the participation of the US and the EU in the process of changing the regime in their country?
    If the Americans cannot answer this question, then they become like stupid and obsessive "well-wishers." It would be funny if it weren't so sad and disgusting.
  24. Barakuda
    Barakuda 13 May 2014 13: 31
    0
    They already searched for the "Kolchuga", they dug up Iraq. and Ukraine. - were not found. Kuchma and Kravchuk sagged like never before. And now - what house in the Alps? so hatynka. Nobody remembers anymore.
  25. old man
    old man 13 May 2014 13: 31
    0
    Normal article. After all, they (p-dos) think - Ukraine is far away - it won’t reach them. .. Nothing of the kind. They get into Ukraine and lose America (I think so)
  26. pensioner
    pensioner 13 May 2014 13: 31
    0
    What is the US government looking for in Ukraine?

    I don’t know what they are looking for, but I know what they will find: adventures on their ass. And already found ...
  27. Alexey M
    Alexey M 13 May 2014 13: 33
    0
    What is the US government looking for in Ukraine?
    Yes, it doesn’t look for anything there. A new old enemy of NATO is needed for the people to shoe and loot from it for defense. That's what makes the ghost of the USSR from Russia scare the inhabitants.
  28. waisson
    waisson 13 May 2014 13: 37
    +1
    they are looking and will definitely find their own head
  29. cat 1970
    cat 1970 13 May 2014 13: 38
    +2
    "Over the past week, troops in a number of cities in eastern Ukraine opened fire on their own citizens. Apparently, the result of this violence was the death of dozens of people. Despite the fact that the United States, as a rule, condemns the use of force by governments against their own people (especially , if we are talking about unarmed protesters), this time the administration of the American president puts all the blame on the victims of violence, writes antiwar.com. "
    This hypocrisy, arrogance, and unprincipled behavior of the United States needs an answer. One of the options is the creation of the International Moscow Tribunal (so far, for example, as part of Belarus, Kazakhstan, Ukraine and Russia), with all the accompanying structures. First of all, foreign citizens who take part in the destruction of the Ukrainian people come under trial. The Pendoss "goose" caught on the territory of Ukraine for the crimes committed is subjected to legal proceedings as in The Hague (out of 21 citizens of the former Yugoslavia who got into the Hague Tribunal, only three survived ...). Judge - so judge. The Endos and Europoids will flee from Ukraine at once (it's hard to imagine more cowardly goats). The US State Department and Europe will have something to stick under their noses, let them scratch their heads.
  30. ak226ru
    ak226ru 13 May 2014 13: 42
    +2
    Amerikosy have been investing billions of dollars in Ukraine for several years to make it a NATO member, and then bam and Russia have seized Crimea and other regions of Ukraine are trying to join Russia, which is why sanctions are applied to us even though we could turn off GAZ Europe for at least a month then they would stop Ass licking West.
  31. Strashila
    Strashila 13 May 2014 13: 48
    +1
    ... what they are looking for ... benefits, as they have ... it's a business and nothing more.
  32. semuil
    semuil 13 May 2014 14: 04
    0
    Is the swagger of the US presidential administration, the idea that Americans should rule the world, bring us to the brink of another war in Europe?
    Why is it necessary in Europe? SyShySyAd itself will not seem enough.
  33. tokin1959
    tokin1959 13 May 2014 14: 14
    +1
    Americans themselves do not understand what they are saying.
    they demanded that Putin cancel the referendum.
    But how can Putin cancel the referendum?
    only by force - to send troops to Ukraine.
    and the residents of Lugansk and Donbass say at the same time: - understanding all your hopes and aspirations, we decided to join you without a referendum))))
  34. andj61
    andj61 13 May 2014 14: 17
    0
    political expert Valentin Zharonkin:
    “The government in Kiev fundamentally does not want to understand that sooner or later it will still have to sit down at the negotiating table with those whom they call separatists. In March it was necessary to agree on the status of the Russian language, in April - on federalization and recognition of the people's governors of Donbass. On May 11, we can only talk about a ceasefire. Donbass is no longer Ukraine. The sooner Kiev understands this, the better. There will be fewer victims. "
    Подробности: http://www.regnum.ru/news/polit/1800664.html#ixzz31ab5Y4M9

    The same idea does not reach our American opponents.
    And it’s time to!
  35. sv68
    sv68 13 May 2014 14: 30
    0
    I will reveal the secret laughing America is looking for ukroin vkrylku for his brain, but as they find they will give Russia, so that we set their brains wassat just don’t need to look for anything, but Russia needs to bequeathed, let’s let anyone’s fool
  36. Reserve officer
    Reserve officer 13 May 2014 14: 46
    +4
    States in Ukraine are looking for only one thing - ways to weaken Russia. Everything else is words.
    And the "new Kiev government" is just a means to an end.
    Only here is one flaw in the US analytical departments - Ukraine is not in Africa and not in Latin America. And the tricks learned in Egypt do not work against Russia.
    Recognizing one's own incompetence is political suicide. Because and rage.
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  38. Valkh
    Valkh 13 May 2014 14: 53
    0
    Quote: Hariva
    Ndaaa. America is impoverished. From Ukraine, there’s nothing special to suck.
    With the world on a string - Obama shirt.


    S. shirts for a shirt, in a word !!! - pen.dostantsy !!! hi
  39. Zomanus
    Zomanus 13 May 2014 15: 00
    0
    In fact, all do not care for this Ukraine. We didn’t care before, but now ... And Amers would have been quite happy with the epidemic that would have cut the whole population of the landless population. Will feed less. When will the Ukrainians realize that besides themselves, nobody needs their country?
  40. Peter Timofeev
    Peter Timofeev 13 May 2014 15: 08
    0
    After Russia has shown its determination and military power, many inhabitants of America and Europe begin to open their eyes, and fear for their lives and money savings begin to appear.
  41. Stanislas
    Stanislas 13 May 2014 15: 41
    0
    Be healthy!
  42. Rubmolot
    Rubmolot 13 May 2014 16: 54
    0
    Burisma є a private oil and gas company, which now has its own business in Ukraine.

    Who is Hunter Biden?

    Hunter Biden is a member of the Connecticut College of Lawyers.
    He is the son of US Vice President Joseph Biden.

    source:
    http://burisma.com/ua/board-of-directors/
  43. KBPC50
    KBPC50 13 May 2014 17: 49
    0
    For the United States, a civil war is simply necessary in the territory located next to Russia. This will entail very bad economic consequences for Russia. A humanitarian catastrophe in Ukraine is a blessing for the United States, the only way they can have a tough effect on Russia. So they put their super-Europeans (Fuhrer, rabbit and boxer) into power in Ukraine. The people will not allow to be considered cattle. Wrong place - not Africa!
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  45. Vladimir 23rus
    Vladimir 23rus 15 May 2014 10: 13
    0
    Don't you get it? "will bring us to the brink of another war in Europe." Their pancake will lead to war in Europe. Where are they and where is Europe. Even the most "sane", as you call them, have gone crazy.