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The situation in the south-east of Ukraine. Chronicle of events 11 May

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The situation in the south-east of Ukraine. Chronicle of events 11 May

21:35 During the fighting in Krasnoarmeysk, Donetsk region, the soldiers of the National Guard killed a civilian.
21:30 Locals write in social networks that “national guardsmen” arrived in Krasnoarmeysk on ten civilian vehicles and shot from an automatic weapons random passers-by. There are dead and wounded. Krasnoarmeysk is located on the border of Donetsk and Dnepropetrovsk regions, in 70 kilometers north-west of Donetsk, reports "Reedus".


21:10 Referendum 11 May 2014 Mr. Oleg Tsarev. Report "Lugansk 24"

19:42 Information from Igor "Strelkova":
Red Lyman:
"Everything is fine. My Red Liman company is there, guarded. Turnout rolls over. "

Konstantinovka:
"Good news - in Konstantinovka 2 BRDM (reconnaissance armored vehicles on wheels with large-caliber machine guns - RV) my eagles captured. Eh, let's get through! ”

Krasnoarmeysk:
“Krasnoarmeysk, alas, is not under our control. By the way, at the beginning of 1943, my grandfather, Ivan Konstantinovich Runov (at that time, a junior lieutenant, commander of a company of machine gunners), spent a week there surrounded (after Manstein’s counterstrike). Dropped the remnants of the battalion. Out with a single cartridge in the TT. And, by the way, a whole mountain of rocket launchers from 1941 to 1945 a year was found in the Ukrainian warehouse. Even a couple of lend-lease caught. The flare guns are actively used here - in the Ukrotsky army there are no one-time lighting rockets in principle - they are forced to light the area with signal rockets, poor creatures ... ”

18.34 Krasnoarmeysk became the first city in the Donetsk region, in which voting in the referendum was completed and polling stations were closed. The reason for the closure was the threat to the lives of voters and election officials from the so-called National Guard. Turnout at the sites was 77,08%.
18.01 During the punitive operation, the Ukrainian security forces seized the premises of four schools in Krasnoarmeysk, where the polling stations for voting on the status of the Donetsk region were located. The building of the Krasnoarmeysk City Executive Committee was captured and blocked by radicals, allegedly members of the so-called National Guard.

17:11 Ukrainian media have announced the seizure of ballots by the National Guard under Krasnoarmeysk.

16:56 Armed people seized the city council building in Krasnoarmeysk, Donetsk region, where the territorial election commission for the referendum is located, RIA Novosti reports.
The invaders blocked the voting process, the Co-Chairman of the Donetsk Central People’s Election Commission Roman Lyagin said. He noted that since the beginning of the voting, a high turnout was observed in the city and a large percentage of people managed to vote.
In addition, according to him, information was received on the possibility of armed provocations in Kurakhovo near Donetsk. To ensure the safety of the place sent militia DNI.
16:31 Supporters of federalization announced the arrest of a candidate for the presidency of Ukraine, Oleg Lyashko. This was announced by the representative of the militia at a rally outside the building of the Mariupol City Council.

16.30 After the referendum in the Donetsk People's Republic, its organizers plan to hold a congress of deputies of all levels in the Donetsk region and begin a “civilized divorce” with the Kiev authorities. This was told by the coordinator of the CEC of the DPR and the co-chairman of the DPR presidium Boris Litvinov.

16.06 Dialogue with the Kiev authorities is theoretically possible, but only with the participation of intermediaries. This was told by the co-chairman of the government of the proclaimed Donetsk People's Republic (DPR) Denis Pushilin, noting that by their actions the Ukrainian authorities "themselves categorically narrow the corridor for building any dialogue."
16.04 The turnout at a referendum in Lugansk, according to the latest data, exceeded 75%.
At the referendum in the Donetsk region, turnout "has passed for 50%". According to the CEC of the proclaimed Donetsk People's Republic, in some areas this figure reaches 65%.
15.55 MSK Ukrainian security forces continue the operation in Krasny Liman, Slavyansk and Kramatorsk. As the acting head of the presidential administration, Sergey Pashinsky, stated, "eight task forces within the framework of the" operation "destroyed roadblocks" and a group of militiamen.
15.03 The referendums held in the Donetsk and Luhansk regions are illegal and have "neither legal nor actual consequences," said Pavlo Petrenko, appointed by the Verkhovna Rada, Minister of Justice of Ukraine. The Foreign Ministry also noted that the referendum in the eastern regions "will not have any legal consequences for the territorial integrity and structure of Ukraine."
14.48 MSK Ukrainian security officials blocked the delivery of ballots in some areas to vote in a referendum on the status of the Luhansk region. As a result, it is not possible to hold a referendum in the Belovodsky, Markovsky, Svatovsky, Melovsky and Troitsky districts, said before. Regional CEC Alexander Malykhin.
14.06 Communication with the city of Krasny Liman in the Donetsk region has been restored, and there is nothing threatening the holding of a referendum in the city, said a member of the election commission of the proclaimed Donetsk People's Republic, Sergey Tretyakov.

13:42 In the building of the city council of Mariupol, Donetsk region, a fire re-emerged, reports the local online edition 0629.ua. "There are no fire trucks near the city council. The fire is visible from the windows on the 4 floor of the building. There are onlookers next to the mayor's office," the newspaper said. According to him, the causes of the fire are unknown, there are no data on the victims.
13:30 In the Luhansk region in the city of Novoaydar (60 km north-east of Lugansk), the territorial election commission is being evacuated, where the soldiers of the National Guard arrived and staged a rout. This is reported by Interfax.
“The territorial election commission of Novoaydar is conducting an emergency evacuation,” the referendum election committee’s coordinating council told the agency.
The agency’s interlocutor noted that “at first, the soldiers of the National Guard under the BTR blocked the entrances to the polling stations, and then defeated the territorial election commission of Novoaydar”.
13.17 Voting at the referendum sites in Donetsk and Mariupol is calm. There were no provocations and clashes, member of the Public Chamber of the Russian Federation Georgy Fedorov reported, citing information from observers cooperating with the OP in these cities of the Donetsk region.
13:16 And about. the head of the presidential administration of Ukraine, Sergey Pashinsky, said that the military operation in the area of ​​the cities of Krasny Liman, Slavyansk and Kramatorsk in the Donetsk region by the Ukrainian security forces had moved to the final stage. “The antiterrorist operation in the Krasny Liman, Slavyansk, Kramatorsk regions is in the final stage,” he said at a briefing on Sunday in Kiev.
According to the representative of the Kiev authorities, "during the operation, many separatists were killed." At the same time, Pashinsky did not name any specific data on this account.
12.40 Turnout at the referendum in the Donetsk region "has already exceeded 30 percent", said the chairman of the Central Election Commission of the proclaimed Donetsk People's Republic Roman Lyagin. According to him, at noon the level in 35% can be reached.
11.47 There is no connection with the two territorial commissions in the city of Krasny Liman, where, according to preliminary information, the militia are clashing with the Ukrainian security forces involved in the punitive operation.
11:20 Turnout at a referendum in Lugansk on 11: 00 Moscow time "amounted to about 22%". About this correspondent. ITAR-TASS reported to 11 in May by a representative of the Lugansk press center on referendum issues Vasily Nikitin.

10:55 The provocateurs tried to take away ballots from voters at one of the polling stations in Lugansk, RIA Novosti reports.
The attempt of provocation was noted at the site in the Lugansk National Pedagogical University. The militia stopped an attempt to interfere with the voting and are investigating the incident.
9:52 In the Donetsk and Lugansk regions opened polling stations in the referendum on self-determination. Voting will take place in the context of the ongoing force special operation of the Kiev authorities in the east of Ukraine.
09:35 On the outskirts of Donetsk Slavyansk, shortly before the start of the referendum on self-determination, shooting rang out. Shots and explosive shells are heard in the area controlled by the supporters of the federalization of the Feed Mill. The city is still blocked by Ukrainian security forces, reports RIA Novosti.
04:51 A couple of kilometers from Slavyansk, the DPR troops occupied the mountain Karachun. The Donetsk Republic has a fleet based on a helicopter seized from the Ukrainians. The battle, about which our correspondent reported earlier - turned out to be an operation to seize the village of Andreyevka with pro-Russian forces.
3:11 A green rocket took off near the village of Chervony Molochar, on the outskirts of Kramatorsk to Slavyansk. He fired a heavy machine gun from the post at the ascent of the mountain. For half an hour, short shooters occur occasionally, there is no active action.

2:05 Militia enters into battle BMD.
2:35 Over the Andreevsky checkpoint two lighting flares took off.
2:27 Machine-gun bursts are heard.
2:21 No shooting. Both sides are regrouping.
It all started with the shelling of the roadblock, which is located at a railway crossing, where the militia installed several freight cars, blocking the road to the city. Breaks in mortar shells and shells rang out every 20-30 seconds.
To save the fighters at the checkpoint, the militia reconnaissance group attacked Mount Karachun, where the enemy artillery is based.
2:16 Yellow rockets took off on the Rybkhoz.
2:07 At times there is a lull, as now. Half the television channels stopped working. Looks like a damaged tower. On the other side of the front: “They are fighting there. They are fired from ATGM and machine guns. In addition, snipers are working who shoot explosive bullets,” the National Guard soldiers who guard the TV tower reported.
“The fight is hard, there are no more details yet,” he added.

1:56 Artillery guns are being fired at roadblocks. The militia is returning automatic fire. The battle began in the area of ​​Andreevka and moved closer to the city. Intense automatic shooting. Work large-caliber machine guns. Part of the mobile operators has stopped working.
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  1. Nicholas C.
    Nicholas C. 11 May 2014 07: 02
    +84
    Good luck with the referendum. Now this is the most important.
    1. vladsolo56
      vladsolo56 11 May 2014 07: 20
      +46
      The referendum no longer solves anything, there is a civil war, now only machines decide. The referendum season is over.
      1. vladimirZ
        vladimirZ 11 May 2014 08: 15
        +99
        vladsolo56 (3)
        The referendum no longer solves anything, there is a civil war, now only machines decide. The referendum season is over.


        This is you in vain!
        A referendum is an expression of the will of the people, at which an independent sovereign state will then be formed, for example, the "Donbass People's Republic" - a subject of international law that cannot be simply ignored.
        Russia will build new relations with the new state and will more actively be able to assist the Donbass state in repelling external aggression from Nazi Ukraine.
        1. mister2013
          mister2013 11 May 2014 08: 29
          +43
          I support your opinion! An example of Transnistria, Abkhazia, Ossetia.
          1. GRANATE-19
            GRANATE-19 11 May 2014 11: 08
            +7
            Quote: mister2013
            I support your opinion! An example of Transnistria, Abkhazia, Ossetia.

            I would also add the CHECHNYA (and remembered its referendum).
            PHOTO IN THE HEADLINE OF THE ARTICLE I REMINDED ME - WINTER 1999-2000 ...
            1. ed65b
              ed65b 11 May 2014 14: 23
              +26
              From the report of the militias on the website War in the Southeast: Slavyansk: that night, mercenaries and fighters of the National Guard are buried on the outskirts of the city. The amount of losses of the SBU, the National Guard (special battalions "Azov" and "Dnepr" and mercenaries from PMCs according to our data is about 300 people (data is constantly being received and processed).
              “Total losses of punitive in the Donbass for 2-9 on May 2014 of the year:

              About 240 killed and wounded, of which:
              - About 130 extremists of the "Right Sector", which mainly became part of the national guard;
              - about 20 troops of the 95 airmobile Zhytomyr brigade;
              - About 10 employees of the Ministry of Internal Affairs;
              - about 60 employees of the SBU of Ukraine (Sumy Alpha was completely destroyed, Kiev, Poltava, Ternopol, Ivano-Frankivsk Alpha suffered heavy losses, etc.);
              - 20 CIA officers (13 killed, 7 injured);
              - 10 mercenaries: Polish PMC “ASBS Othago” lost 3 people, American PMC “Greystone” - 7 people;
              - seven combat helicopters (Mi-24 and Mi-8);
              - 1 Hammer;
              - 1 armored personnel carrier;
              - 1 BMP.

              The People’s Army captured 9 units of armored vehicles. "
              1. bomg.77
                bomg.77 11 May 2014 14: 31
                +7
                Quote: ed65b
                About 240 killed and wounded, of which:
                Normally they fought .... These 240 have already been buried with an excavator in two holes ... this is what they write on the Internet.
                1. pts-m
                  pts-m 11 May 2014 17: 10
                  +9
                  Duck name Karachun speaks for itself, the end comes to the junta mercenaries!
              2. vladimirZ
                vladimirZ 11 May 2014 16: 44
                +15
                Only that information has passed on the website of the Southeast: one of the leaders of the terrorist operation against the people of Novorossia captured Mayashutsky Lyashko. Lyashko taken in Mariupol. Bandera bastard Lyashko will answer for the atrocities against the people of the Southeast.
                1. ed65b
                  ed65b 11 May 2014 16: 52
                  +16
                  Quote: vladimirZ
                  Only that information has passed on the website of the Southeast: one of the leaders of the terrorist operation against the people of Novorossia captured Mayashutsky Lyashko. Lyashko taken in Mariupol. Bandera bastard Lyashko will answer for the atrocities against the people of the Southeast.

                  B. I am the best news this week. Show the bitch on TV. And then to the wall.
                  1. zol1
                    zol1 11 May 2014 17: 02
                    +7
                    Not in any way "to the wall", only to the birch! Hang such bastards, though they will stink and scream, but then it will be easier to breathe later!
                    1. Buran
                      Buran 11 May 2014 17: 19
                      +14
                      Last news !!!
                      The combat p.i.d.oras lyashko captured in Mariupol.
                    2. Children BuryKonya
                      Children BuryKonya 11 May 2014 17: 22
                      +10
                      Hang, next to Androshchuk. Just hanged on an aspen.
                      1. Erg
                        Erg 12 May 2014 00: 18
                        +1
                        So as not to revolt. She is dear and needed
                2. Suhow
                  Suhow 11 May 2014 18: 49
                  +5
                  Lyashka should be given according to the hara how he did this with opponents with the help of his associates and as well as he put the result on the Internet.
              3. Revolver
                Revolver 11 May 2014 19: 36
                +4
                Quote: ed65b
                Total punitive losses in the Donbass for May 2–9, 2014:

                Add to the list the chief of police of Mariupol. According to this source:
                http://mignews.com/news/disasters/world/110514_150711_43778.html

                he was tried by a people's court for a slaughter in the city, sentenced to a tower, and hung on an aspen.
                The head of the Mariupol city police department Valery Androshchuk, who had previously been abducted by separatists, was found hanged on May 10 in the area of ​​the Mariupol airport.
              4. 225chay
                225chay 11 May 2014 22: 34
                +4
                Quote: ed65b
                From the report of the militias on the website War in the Southeast: Slavyansk: that night, mercenaries and fighters of the National Guard are buried on the outskirts of the city. The amount of losses of the SBU, the National Guard (special battalions "Azov" and "Dnepr" and mercenaries from PMCs according to our data is about 300 people (data is constantly being received and processed).
                “Total losses of punitive in the Donbass for 2-9 on May 2014 of the year:

                About 240 killed and wounded, of which:
                - About 130 extremists of the "Right Sector", which mainly became part of the national guard;
                - about 20 troops of the 95 airmobile Zhytomyr brigade;
                - About 10 employees of the Ministry of Internal Affairs;
                - about 60 employees of the SBU of Ukraine (Sumy Alpha was completely destroyed, Kiev, Poltava, Ternopol, Ivano-Frankivsk Alpha suffered heavy losses, etc.);
                - 20 CIA officers (13 killed, 7 injured);
                - 10 mercenaries: Polish PMC “ASBS Othago” lost 3 people, American PMC “Greystone” - 7 people;
                - seven combat helicopters (Mi-24 and Mi-8);
                - 1 Hammer;
                - 1 armored personnel carrier;
                - 1 BMP.

                The People’s Army captured 9 units of armored vehicles. "



                Amazingly good news for our ears.
                more blind men and prisoners from foreign mercenaries would have pleased
              5. tds-8_78
                tds-8_78 11 May 2014 22: 47
                +3
                This is just the beginning.
              6. aleks 62
                aleks 62 12 May 2014 11: 35
                +1
                .... If it's not a fake, then it's not bad ... It would be necessary to lay out the media on the way out, mummies and daddies banderlog in "joy", and then go to the site to them - a joyful squeal of a puppy is worth ....
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          3. Skipper
            Skipper 11 May 2014 11: 44
            +7
            I agree.
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          4. Nikoha.2010
            Nikoha.2010 11 May 2014 12: 17
            +8
            Quote: mister2013
            I support your opinion! An example of Transnistria, Abkhazia, Ossetia.

            Speaking of Transnistria. It turns out that Rogozin was transporting by plane to Moscow the signatures of residents of Transnistria on accession or entry into the Russian Federation. Details at www.Vesti.Ru
        2. vladsolo56
          vladsolo56 11 May 2014 08: 49
          -87%
          Listen to what Putin says, and he says that he recognizes a united Ukraine, and will only negotiate with the authorities after the presidential election, i.e. with the junta. I did not hear a word of support from the DPR from him. Not a word of condolences to the dead: what is in Odessa, what is in Slavyansk, what is in Mariupol. If you heard then correct me.
          1. Oprychnik
            Oprychnik 11 May 2014 08: 56
            +35
            Yesterday, before the match in which he participated, there was a minute of silence for those who died in Mariupol. He really did not say anything, but this is a sign.
            1. oldy
              oldy 11 May 2014 09: 36
              +87
              A subtle allusion to "fat circumstances"
              1. Kapralwdw
                Kapralwdw 11 May 2014 12: 46
                +6
                offset !!! subtly spotted !! drinks
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              3. siberalt
                siberalt 11 May 2014 12: 47
                +20
                6 goals scored by Putin - six new republics in Ukraine! good
              4. Nik SU
                Nik SU 11 May 2014 12: 56
                +3
                What is the score in the game?
                1. Lord of the Sith
                  Lord of the Sith 11 May 2014 13: 03
                  +3
                  Quote: Nik SU
                  What is the score in the game?

                  24: 6 like
                2. sergio6769
                  sergio6769 11 May 2014 15: 10
                  0
                  20:5 wink .. maybe by May 20?
              5. 29261
                29261 11 May 2014 13: 16
                +1
                This is symbolic !!!
              6. I do not care
                I do not care 11 May 2014 14: 54
                +19
                Quote: oldy
                oldy Today, 09: 36 ↑ New
                A subtle allusion to "fat circumstances"

                so what are the hints
                1. Suhow
                  Suhow 11 May 2014 18: 56
                  +3
                  THIN FINE. Briefly and completely.
              7. Wels75
                Wels75 11 May 2014 20: 51
                +3
                Quote: oldy
                A subtle allusion to "fat circumstances"

                Slightly different option
            2. Nik SU
              Nik SU 11 May 2014 12: 55
              +8
              He did not speak, but to do. If silent means that it is too early to do.
              1. Canep
                Canep 11 May 2014 13: 45
                +12
                Quote: Nik SU
                If silent means that it is too early to do.

                If he is silent, it means he is doing something, usually Putin starts talking when he can’t do anything. He spoke a lot on the Syrian issue at one time, until he caught Cameron's word and offered to destroy the Syrian XO. After that, he did not speak much, silently (almost) pressed Crimea. If you came across the Chekists with experience, you should have noticed their laconicism. If Putin begins to pour statements, then the matter is bad - that means he cannot do anything, and if he is silent - let the FMS prepare to issue new passports.
            3. Andrey Gladkikh
              Andrey Gladkikh 11 May 2014 22: 44
              +3
              Vladimir Putin has deep sorrow and compassion for those who died as a result of punitive actions and who were injured. We have no opportunity for official Kiev to express condolences, as is customary in international practice. Since there is no official Kiev as such, Dmitry Peskov told reporters on May 3.
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          3. FREGATENKAPITAN
            FREGATENKAPITAN 11 May 2014 09: 06
            +21
            Well, it’s kind of not a newbie ... Yes, the latest example ..... Before the hockey match of the NHL Stars = a minute of silence in memory of the dead .... This is yesterday .... And before that, how much he said ...... .And that he did not hear for a single and indivisible! I heard about the call for negotiations!
          4. maxcor1974
            maxcor1974 11 May 2014 09: 16
            +18
            More importantly, what Putin did not say ...
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          6. ed65b
            ed65b 11 May 2014 09: 26
            +15
            Minus to you Vladimir. rummage in the press a lot of what Putin said about the junta and around it.
          7. Egoza
            Egoza 11 May 2014 10: 15
            +15
            Quote: vladsolo56
            will only negotiate with the authorities after the presidential election, i.e. with the junta.

            And if there are no elections ... or Russia does not recognize them, because even half of the population will not take part in these "elections" .... then the legitimately elected president is in his pocket! wassat
            1. revnagan
              revnagan 11 May 2014 10: 40
              +28
              Quote: Egoza
              And if there are no elections ... or Russia does not recognize them, because even half of the population will not take part in these "elections" ...

              And you don’t confuse anything? In my opinion, the prudent rabbit Senya pulled out an amendment, and now the elections are recognized as valid regardless of the number of voters?
              Okay, here in our city the arrival of PS agitators was announced, I’ll grab the mount and go chat.
              1. Suhow
                Suhow 11 May 2014 19: 01
                +2
                which city is it ??? In Kiev this will not work, very many believe in aggression. and so on ...
                1. revnagan
                  revnagan 11 May 2014 20: 51
                  +6
                  Quote: Suhow
                  which city is it ??? In Kiev this will not work, very many believe in aggression. and so on ...

                  The city of Shostka, Sumy region. I went, there were 7 torn sphincters, and there were 11 cops around them only in uniform. The "sincere" conversation did not work, although the boys stood around in groups and waited for a convenient moment. Of the seven utyrks, only one healthy bearded man The rest are unshaven jerks. According to their words, they personally were not in Odessa, and Crimea will be asked back in a year. Putin is a fascist, arranged the Anschluss of Crimea, like Hitler Anschluss of Austria, but is Shukhevych a fascist ... firstly, they do not know this, and secondly, this is already history. And in general, they are not against Russians (white and fluffy), and love Jews. Yes, exactly according to the wishes of the governor Isael! PSs evacuated a Jewish family from Ivano-Frankivsk! (I wonder why, if they like Jews there?) In general, these are people from another planet. But they had their own electorate, the same jerks about 17-25 years old. , few "Berkuts" burned on the Maidan pravoseki, if they were guarded with such zeal ... cops.
          8. repytw
            repytw 11 May 2014 10: 34
            +17
            I agree, the self-defense forces also declare that they will not limit themselves to the Donbas, but will go to Kiev and beyond. Ukraine really will be united, but without the fascists, if the junta can introduce a dictatorship, why pro-Russian forces can not.
            1. Hariva
              Hariva 11 May 2014 11: 27
              +11
              Quote: repytw
              I agree, the self-defense forces also declare that they will not limit themselves to the Donbas, but will go to Kiev and beyond.

              Well, tell me. If the elections take place and the DPR will be proclaimed. Why the hell would self-defense forces have to cross the border from the ultimate independent state? Maybe Putin asked about this? Do not hurry! And what will we have? The junta’s tearful requests for the introduction of NATO troops in order to protect the revolutionary conquests from the Donetsk parabols.
              1. Skipper
                Skipper 11 May 2014 11: 49
                +7
                Well, for now, they will not cross, but with Lugansk they will unite for sure, further, more, and then Kiev is a stone's throw.
              2. Anisim1977
                Anisim1977 11 May 2014 12: 18
                +8
                You can enter in orderly regiments - or in quietly small groups, and then become the militia of Zaporozhye and Kherson, for example.
          9. Aleksandr65
            Aleksandr65 11 May 2014 10: 44
            +19
            Putin expressed deep condolences to the families and families of those killed in Odessa
          10. Nick
            Nick 11 May 2014 10: 44
            +20
            Quote: vladsolo56
            Not a word of condolences to the dead: that in Odessa, that in Slavyansk, that in Mariupol. If you heard then correct me.

            He expressed condolences, but not to the current government, but to the families and friends of the victims. This has been specifically emphasized in the statement.
            1. Nik SU
              Nik SU 11 May 2014 13: 00
              +6
              Yes, Peskov voiced the next day. What GDP expresses deep condolences to the citizens of Odessa.
          11. Spnsr
            Spnsr 11 May 2014 10: 48
            +8
            Quote: vladsolo56
            Listen to what Putin says, and he says that he recognizes a united Ukraine, and will only negotiate with the authorities after the presidential election, i.e. with the junta. I did not hear a word of support from the DPR from him. Not a word of condolences to the dead: what is in Odessa, what is in Slavyansk, what is in Mariupol. If you heard then correct me.

            and he also said that elections should be held after constitutional reform, otherwise a citizen will not know what powers he entrusts to someone who can become president, and what rights and freedoms a citizen will have! he also said that he would support and accept the will of the people ...
            or not? I probably heard ???
          12. tehnoluks
            tehnoluks 11 May 2014 11: 06
            +10
            vladsolo56, better listen to what Putin is silent about. Very clear and silent ...
          13. sniper
            sniper 11 May 2014 11: 08
            +10
            Quote: vladsolo56
            , and he says that he recognizes a united Ukraine, and will only negotiate with the authorities after the presidential election, those. with the junta

            That's about the junta is not necessary ... And about a single, so it’s understandable, Russia needs a single friendly neighbor. In Ukraine, a civil war began and, as history shows, it will end only with the victory of one of the parties, and it doesn’t matter which way they come to victory with bayonets or reforms ... The junta will never be recognized, this is one hundred percent. I once wrote on this topic:
            I like the scenario when the army of the Southeast passes a cleansing wave in Ukraine ... It seems that two battalions of the Crimean militia have already come to the rescue. Although Crimea is already ours, Ukrainian passports seem to have never been canceled and Crimeans can act as citizens of Ukraine, if I am mistaken, then correct ... Weapons, I think it will be, all the more so since Russia and Ukraine have an inheritance USSR ... Yes, and specialists should be enough ...


            Well, something like that, in my opinion ....
          14. dkflbvbh
            dkflbvbh 11 May 2014 11: 27
            +1
            That's right ...
          15. Skipper
            Skipper 11 May 2014 11: 46
            +6
            Yesterday at the NHL match, a minute of silence over the dead in Mariupol.
          16. Associate Professor
            Associate Professor 11 May 2014 11: 49
            +5
            Quote: vladsolo56
            Listen to what Putin says, and he says that he recognizes a united Ukraine, and will only negotiate with the authorities after the presidential election, i.e. with the junta

            Bullshit and nonsense. Putin never said that. Give a link if you can
          17. Anisim1977
            Anisim1977 11 May 2014 12: 16
            +2
            Vladimir Vladimirovich asked to postpone the referendum, translating it from political to great and mighty - he acknowledges.
          18. TS3sta3
            TS3sta3 11 May 2014 13: 34
            +6
            IMHO
            Putin does not need Little Russia, donbas, Lugansk and other micro-republics are not needed. He calls to stop the referendum to preserve the integrity of the state of Ukraine. why? because he needs all of Ukraine, not parts of it. all Ukraine is our land, we are one people. the people are fooled by Svidomo propaganda, which they have been selling to him for 23 years. and Svidomo brain - its logical regularity. but this is not a reason to abandon their land and their people. wedge wedge. give 23 more years of life in a single state and today's maydaunov and svidomitov will despise and hate. if now to hold a referendum, Ukraine will split, but fascism will not disappear. A referendum is not a solution to the problem, but its postponement. What will the fascists do in Kiev after the section? will run away? give up? evaporate? especially since they do not decide where to go and what to do. Ukraine’s true master is overseas. what are his goals for everyone and so they know-the war to the weakening of Russia. Ukraine is its weapon. every fascist in Ukraine is working to weaken Russia. including by terror and war (Russian-Ukrainian), which will surely be if we allow them to do so. therefore, it is necessary not to run away from the problem of fascism, but to solve it. The solution is a complete cleansing of Ukraine from fascism. for this it must be attached. completely.
            1. lance
              lance 11 May 2014 16: 19
              +2
              I can say for sure that today your proposal is fiction, there will be no lions in the regions sympathizing with Putin. section of Ukraine predicted-0 is a fact that everyone is afraid to recognize in Ukraine, but it is not inevitable. time will put everything in its place and everyone will leave the banderologists, but the Ukrainians decided to feel it all in their own skin - disappointment will be bitter.
            2. Shaki's memory
              Shaki's memory 13 May 2014 10: 43
              +1
              Here I read and think .. and where is Putin? There are the interests of Russia, and not the interests of a specific citizen of Putin ... You understand that if you are the leader of the country, then there are no "personal" interests for you. And if the interests of the country require you to become a "bad" person, then you have no choice ... "Kind" and "conscientious" leaders usually ruin their countries. As well as "complete" democracy .. (Examples - Rzeczpospolita, Weimar Republic
            3. Shaki's memory
              Shaki's memory 13 May 2014 10: 43
              0
              Here I read and think .. and where is Putin? There are the interests of Russia, and not the interests of a specific citizen of Putin ... You understand that if you are the leader of the country, then there are no "personal" interests for you. And if the interests of the country require you to become a "bad" person, then you have no choice ... "Kind" and "conscientious" leaders usually ruin their countries. As well as "complete" democracy .. (Examples - Rzeczpospolita, Weimar Republic
            4. Shaki's memory
              Shaki's memory 13 May 2014 10: 43
              0
              Here I read and think .. and where is Putin? There are the interests of Russia, and not the interests of a specific citizen of Putin ... You understand that if you are the leader of the country, then there are no "personal" interests for you. And if the interests of the country require you to become a "bad" person, then you have no choice ... "Kind" and "conscientious" leaders usually ruin their countries. As well as "complete" democracy .. (Examples - Rzeczpospolita, Weimar Republic
            5. Shaki's memory
              Shaki's memory 13 May 2014 10: 44
              0
              Here I read and think .. and where is Putin? There are the interests of Russia, and not the interests of a specific citizen of Putin ... You understand that if you are the leader of the country, then there are no "personal" interests for you. And if the interests of the country require you to become a "bad" person, then you have no choice ... "Kind" and "conscientious" leaders usually ruin their countries. As well as "complete" democracy .. (Examples - Rzeczpospolita, Weimar Republic
            6. Shaki's memory
              Shaki's memory 13 May 2014 10: 44
              0
              Here I read and think .. and where is Putin? There are the interests of Russia, and not the interests of a specific citizen of Putin ... You understand that if you are the leader of the country, then there are no "personal" interests for you. And if the interests of the country require you to become a "bad" person, then you have no choice ... "Kind" and "conscientious" leaders usually ruin their countries. As well as "complete" democracy .. (Examples - Rzeczpospolita, Weimar Republic
            7. Shaki's memory
              Shaki's memory 13 May 2014 10: 46
              0
              Here I read and think .. and where is Putin? There are the interests of Russia, and not the interests of a specific citizen of Putin ... You understand that if you are the leader of the country, then there are no "personal" interests for you. And if the interests of the country require you to become a "bad" person, then you have no choice ... "Kind" and "conscientious" leaders usually ruin their countries. As well as "complete" democracy .. (Examples - Rzeczpospolita, Weimar Republic
            8. Shaki's memory
              Shaki's memory 13 May 2014 10: 46
              0
              Here I read and think .. and where is Putin? There are the interests of Russia, and not the interests of a specific citizen of Putin ... You understand that if you are the leader of the country, then there are no "personal" interests for you. And if the interests of the country require you to become a "bad" person, then you have no choice ... "Kind" and "conscientious" leaders usually ruin their countries. As well as "complete" democracy .. (Examples - Rzeczpospolita, Weimar Republic
          19. Mik-51
            Mik-51 11 May 2014 13: 42
            +4
            You know, there is no need to give, to put it mildly, thoughtless advice to the Head of our state.
            He - well, in any way, smarter than all of us here put together. And, moreover, much more informed.
          20. avia1991
            avia1991 11 May 2014 15: 38
            +1
            Sorry - it was late .. Immediately after the events in Odessa, Peskov commented that "the President expresses condolences to the relatives of the victims .."
          21. Cynic
            Cynic 11 May 2014 16: 55
            +3
            Quote: vladsolo56
            Not a word of condolences to the dead: that in Odessa, that in Slavyansk, that in Mariupol. If you heard then correct me.

            Heard, many heard, even the president of Switzerland, the chairman of the OSCE Didier Burkhalter heard, but not you.
            Well, sooner or later, the true complexity of a person always manifests itself and you are no exception.
          22. Thompson
            Thompson 11 May 2014 16: 59
            +3
            He is not obamka. In vain the tongue does not scratch!
            His silence is more weighty than the barking packs of all Eurosapresniks!
          23. Suhow
            Suhow 11 May 2014 18: 53
            0
            showed on uk tv his request to postpone the referendum in the EASTERN REGIONS.
          24. I am a Russian
            I am a Russian 11 May 2014 21: 40
            +3
            Quote: vladsolo56
            Listen to what Putin says, and he says that he recognizes a united Ukraine, and will only negotiate with the authorities after the presidential election, i.e. with the junta.


            well you and ...

            And I wish the remaining men of this site to live to a very old age and remain in their right mind and solid memory.
          25. Andrey Gladkikh
            Andrey Gladkikh 11 May 2014 22: 41
            +1
            Condolences were blamed on the Kiev authorities. So there is no need for misinformation under the guise of ignorance.
          26. aleks 62
            aleks 62 12 May 2014 11: 37
            0
            ... Che you smoke ????? ....
        3. dkflbvbh
          dkflbvbh 11 May 2014 11: 26
          +2
          Have you ever read the referendum question? What are we talking about? It only assumes that there will be some kind of independence - once. There is no talk of any independence or of any republic. What do you panic and misinformation do you earn pluses?
          And accordingly, Russia will not provide any help, because there will be no one to officially render.
          Citizens before plusing (I understand that everyone wants to) type in Yandex and see what the newsletter looks like or what you can find on another issue.
          1. Anisim1977
            Anisim1977 11 May 2014 12: 21
            +2
            The rabbit and the paster are generally junta, and the geyrope with ami ......
            And we are worse in this regard?
        4. mamont5
          mamont5 11 May 2014 13: 33
          +4
          Quote: vladimirZ
          This is you in vain!
          A referendum is an expression of the will of the people, at which an independent sovereign state will then be formed, for example, the "Donbass People's Republic" - a subject of international law that cannot be simply ignored.
          Russia will build new relations with the new state and will more actively be able to assist the Donbass state in repelling external aggression from Nazi Ukraine.


          Exactly. There is already someone who recognizes the Donetsk Republic, who is not, but Russia’s hands will be untied.
        5. SHILO
          SHILO 11 May 2014 16: 26
          +21
          Quote: vladimirZ
          This is you in vain! A referendum is the expression of the will of the people,

          I support. He himself voted in the morning, and by dinner at the station his wife pulled herself up. In short, two stakes were driven into a stinking corpse of Ukraine. The minimum is nice. What further the truth is, no one knows, but there are no forces to live with these ghouls.
        6. Russian German
          Russian German 11 May 2014 20: 00
          +9
          I agree, still to get rid of the real aggressor!
        7. vladsolo56
          vladsolo56 12 May 2014 07: 06
          -1
          I was wrong, but only partly, the referendum was needed, but the main goal achieved by holding it was the unification of all the people of the East, I watched the reports and understood this was a victory, a victory of the whole people, and so far not even over the enemy, but over himself . They came together and realized that this is power. But the fact that the referendum was not recognized by Kiev, Europe, America, so it does not matter anymore. In fact, this is a victory !!! I just heartily congratulate all the inhabitants of the east on this victory !!
      2. armageddon
        armageddon 11 May 2014 08: 21
        +8
        Plays the role: WILL !!!
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      4. avt
        avt 11 May 2014 09: 28
        +8
        Quote: vladsolo56
        The referendum doesn’t solve anything,

        The referendum is quite a necessary aid to the armed struggle. In principle, the referendum did not decide anything in Crimea either, and so everything was clear. But! Legal nuances should not be neglected, this is important in the context of "democratic freedoms" and "the desire of" common people in the direction of "protecting human rights".
        1. sssss018
          sssss018 11 May 2014 10: 16
          +5
          Words such as freedom, legal nuances, have long been trampled by America!
      5. Artyom
        Artyom 11 May 2014 09: 42
        +40
        REFEREDUM, if there is no fraud, will make it clear the real balance of power and mood, the only thing I agree with, then if you hold it later, then there will be more people who want to separate!
        Here are verses from Ukrainians who, in my opinion, have a veil that is breaking the evil eye:
        "Did you stand on the Maidan for?
        For shchu human roof poured?
        For those shchin they wrote
        The first time the Ukrainians cried.
        For those shrimp Krim, znov becoming Moscow
        I schob Donbass becoming Donbas.
        For those who share Ukraine
        Rishav in Europe pidaras. "
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        2. siberalt
          siberalt 11 May 2014 12: 52
          0
          I didn’t understand the poems, except for the last word. Is it weak to translate into Russian? laughing
          1. Tatarus
            Tatarus 11 May 2014 13: 21
            +7
            It is understandable without knowledge of the language.
          2. Buran
            Buran 11 May 2014 17: 42
            +5
            And what is incomprehensible here:

            What were you on the Maidan?
            Why did they pour human blood?
            For raising prices
            And again cry hoh
            For Crimea to become Moscow again,
            And so that Donbas becomes Donbas.
            For the share of Ukraine
            Solved in Europe p.i.d.oras.
        3. Suhow
          Suhow 11 May 2014 19: 32
          +1
          I communicate with those who were on the Maidan and with those who did not support, about Yanyk, the bitch is almost unanimous, but there are no other issues. We hope (Maidan) that the new government has not yet shown itself, 2 months is not a term, and not for them there stood. I think about this WHAT IN THE FOREVER WHAT IS AN ENCOURSE, ordinary people are hurt, and what they will do to stay in power is big ?????
        4. Roshchin
          Roshchin 12 May 2014 14: 35
          +1
          Clearly, but not specifically. This is about whom? After all, Husseinich does not live Geyrop, but somewhere overseas.
      6. kare
        kare 11 May 2014 10: 11
        +8
        The referendum no longer solves anything, there is a civil war, now only machines decide. The referendum season is over.

        Yanyk essentially does not solve anything either. But this is our joker in the legal game and we don’t rush to merge it for no need
        The referendum is the essence of the expression of the will of the people, which does not hurt us, no matter what decision
        recourse I think so
      7. sssss018
        sssss018 11 May 2014 10: 14
        +6
        Quite right, they sowed such self-hatred that people could not be stopped !!!
      8. Silencernt
        Silencernt 11 May 2014 13: 53
        +3
        Not, just like a referendum is a very important thing. Look: according to the results of the referendum, a DNI is being formed, Russia will recognize it and conclude a defense agreement. Accordingly, any attack on the DPR is automatically a declaration of war on Russia. Those. gives us one more legal right to destroy law-breakers in the territory of the DPR.
    2. maks-101
      maks-101 11 May 2014 07: 56
      +15
      the referendum will be held, and Russia can help with arms and volunteers are being pulled, so the South Ossetians came up already in Donetsk, and there are Crimeans.
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    3. APASUS
      APASUS 11 May 2014 08: 30
      +9
      Quote: Nikolai S.
      Good luck with the referendum. Now this is the most important.

      A referendum in this situation is meaningless, there are no really pressing issues there. After the start of the assault on Slavyansk, the question can be posed differently:
      DNR will be part of Russia or will be an independent state.
      And the question of giving the republic more rights in a civil war situation does not make sense!
      1. Fevrrr
        Fevrrr 11 May 2014 08: 58
        +14
        Quote: APASUS

        A referendum in this situation is pointless ...
        DNR will be part of Russia ...

        You are mistaken. After conducting and counting, the DPR gains independence. Similarly in Lugansk. I hope both republics will unite in one republic. They will offer Russia to conclude a military-political agreement / alliance, etc., etc. I hope Russia will accept and sign. Will introduce MK. That would be enough. Joining Russia is not profitable for the first time in Russia itself. This will give the junta and their owners the opportunity to prove that it was Russia that destabilized the SE to tear it away from the Ruins and annex it. They say that already, but there is no evidence. IMHO.
        1. Don
          Don 11 May 2014 13: 17
          +6
          Quote: Fevrrr
          You are mistaken. After conducting and counting, the DPR gains independence. Similarly in Lugansk. I hope both republics will unite in one republic. They will offer Russia to conclude a military-political agreement / alliance, etc., etc. I hope Russia will accept and sign. Will introduce MK. That would be enough. Joining Russia is not profitable for the first time in Russia itself. This will give the junta and their owners the opportunity to prove that it was Russia that destabilized the SE to tear it away from the Ruins and annex it. They say that already, but there is no evidence. IMHO.

          You are absolutely right. And we in Donetsk understand this. How much I would not want to join the Russian Federation, but the howl in Europe will rise strong. But the EU is still the main trading partner of the Russian Federation. Of course, the Russian Federation needs help, but the DNI and LC should first of all become independent. Then peacekeepers can be pulled up. There, even from Israel, the battalion is ready to come.
        2. Thompson
          Thompson 11 May 2014 17: 06
          -1
          I think not an alliance, but to introduce peacekeepers. (Sounds more peaceful wink )
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      2. avt
        avt 11 May 2014 10: 42
        +7
        Quote: APASUS
        And the question of giving the republic more rights in a civil war situation does not make sense!

        Again . Yes . There is a civil war going on there. But in order for these to be meaningful actions, and not "walk the field", you need to clearly show the people the goals for which people go to death and consistently carry out construction that will lead them to these goals. Donbass has already declared independence, now people who have done this reinforce the weight Then, the question of creating, like Transnistria, an independent, albeit not recognized, republic is raised. It is desirable together with Luhansk and in case of a successful development of events, when the declarations on the transition to the conditions of economic management according to the rules of the Customs Union are actually fulfilled. we can already talk about joining the Russian Federation as Crimea. So far, in the current situation, this path is optimal, but this is not the final version, events can unfold differently and, of course, you can make changes. But even if Tsarev sang about Novorossiya, then it looks like a scenario development of events is chosen just like this - longer and more intricate than the Crimean one, taking into account the fact that " it is dressed on the go, and even with the construction of a unified structure of the protest movement.
        Quote: sssss018
        Words such as freedom, legal nuances, have long been trampled by America!

        However, no one canceled the legal formalities! If you look closely at history, you will see that Stalin ALWAYS adhered to legal formalities when annexing territories to the USSR. It is not for nothing that his pact of the 39th year, without a specific decoding of legal nuances, our law-defending bawlers Mlechino Svanidza sew "as a" conspiracy "with Hitler, diligently forgetting that even in the" Helsing "agreement under Lena Brezhnev, they were practically documented in terms of" inviolability borders "ALL conditions of the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact"
        1. stalkerwalker
          stalkerwalker 11 May 2014 13: 17
          +9
          Quote: avt
          If you look closely at history, you will see that Stalin ALWAYS adhered to legal formalities when annexing territories to the USSR. It is not for nothing that his pact of the 39th year, without a specific decoding of legal nuances, our law-defending bawlers Mlechino Svanidza sew "as a" conspiracy "with Hitler, diligently forgetting that even in the" Helsing "agreement under Lena Brezhnev, they were practically documented in terms of" inviolability borders "ALL conditions of the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact"

          It is only half-witted half-educated people who interpret the period of I.V.S. country as lawlessness. Just in those years, ALL legal norms were respected without any "... and so it goes ...".
          The Vistula operation to resettle 1 million Poles from Western Ukraine and 600 thousand Ukrainians in the opposite direction, as well as sending 150 thousand Jews from Poland to Palestine through the ports of Romania in 1945, would have been impossible without strict organization and observance all procedural rules.
      3. Spnsr
        Spnsr 11 May 2014 11: 23
        +6
        Quote: APASUS
        Quote: Nikolai S.
        Good luck with the referendum. Now this is the most important.

        A referendum in this situation is meaningless, there are no really pressing issues there. After the start of the assault on Slavyansk, the question can be posed differently:
        DNR will be part of Russia or will be an independent state.
        And the question of giving the republic more rights in a civil war situation does not make sense!

        in general, in the future, this referendum will make it possible to sign any agreements, including on military cooperation with states that recognize it!
    4. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith 11 May 2014 09: 15
      +39
      Quote: Nikolay S.
      Good luck with the referendum. Now this is the most important.

      Thank! The referendum began 12 minutes ago. I’m going with my family to a referendum at my precinct, I’ll come and talk about the organization.
      1. oldy
        oldy 11 May 2014 10: 10
        +15
        God bless you! Good luck and take care of yourself ... Siberians are with you!
        1. Lord of the Sith
          Lord of the Sith 11 May 2014 11: 54
          +25
          Quote: oldy
          God bless you! Good luck and take care of yourself ... Siberians are with you!

          Thank! They went to the polls, traveled around the polling station for interest, since they are all on the same street. Everywhere we see a lot of people, so that it’s clear how they go to church on Christmas or Easter, like that. There are no booths, there are tables there you put a tick for or against and throw in transparent bins. Near the ballot boxes there are observers, so that there are no throws.
          So according to my estimates, by 12:00 about 35% -40% will vote. Some are afraid to go because they scare terrorist attacks.




          1. Corsair
            Corsair 11 May 2014 21: 01
            +4
            Quote: Sith Lord
            There are no booths, there are tables there you put a tick for or against and throw in transparent bins.

            I confirm the turnout, I will add only that in many relatively calm cities they were able to prepare more thoroughly for the plebescite. There were also voting booths, as in the "pre-war time" and although not a large external security from the DPR Ministry of Internal Affairs ...
        2. Penzyac
          Penzyac 11 May 2014 13: 08
          +8
          Quote: oldy
          God bless you! Good luck and take care of yourself ... Siberians are with you!

          And the Volga too!
          1. Thompson
            Thompson 11 May 2014 17: 09
            +7
            Why are you so modest - ALL RUSSIA !!!!!!!!!!!
    5. Wels75
      Wels75 11 May 2014 09: 20
      +24
      Good luck DNI and LC today need!
      And the Slavic militias of the young man !!! They recaptured the TV tower, plus the dominant altitude, took control (if true) and the helicopter good handsome men
      Right now in the news (Russia24) they said about Mariupol, they burned the military unit, and at the same time took possession of several units of armored vehicles!
      Well with god guys vote!
      Death to fascism! Victory will be ours!
      We are together!
    6. nikolaev
      nikolaev 11 May 2014 13: 03
      0
      77777
      5/02: The Untold Truth of Kulikovo Field [Part 1] HD
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ja4c8sHHhSE#t=67
    7. Ross
      Ross 11 May 2014 14: 11
      +11
      Good luck with the referendum. Now this is the most important.

      I want to answer with classics
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      2. ZU-23
        ZU-23 11 May 2014 15: 28
        +2
        16:48

        Ukrainian security officials blocked the delivery of ballots to some areas for voting in a referendum on the status of the Luhansk region. As a result, there is no possibility to hold a referendum in Belovodsk, Markov, Svatov, Melov and Troitsky districts, said Alexander Malykhin of the regional CEC.




        16:29

        The new government in Kiev admits that "many in Donetsk and Luhansk regions do not trust the government." This was said by the acting Head of the Presidential Administration of Ukraine Serhiy Pashinsky, noting that the situation in these areas is "very difficult" and "a political compromise must be found."




        16:18

        The number of victims of bloody riots in Odessa rose to 47: 34-year-old Evgeny Losinsky died in a hospital and received a gunshot wound in the stomach




        16:06

        . Relations with the city of Krasny Liman in the Donetsk region have been restored, nothing threatens the referendum in the city, said Sergei Tretyakov, member of the election commission of the proclaimed Donetsk People’s Republic.




        15:17

        Voting at the referendum sites in Donetsk and Mariupol is calm. There were no provocations and clashes, member of the Public Chamber of the Russian Federation Georgy Fedorov reported, citing information from observers cooperating with the OP in these cities of the Donetsk region.




        14:40

        The turnout at the referendum in the Donetsk region "has already exceeded 30 percent," said Roman Lyagin, chairman of the Central Election Commission of the proclaimed Donetsk People's Republic. According to him, 35% can be reached at noon
  2. svp67
    svp67 11 May 2014 07: 05
    +29
    A couple of kilometers from Slavyansk, DNR troops occupied Mount Karachun
    - let's go GOOD MEN. Yes Shooter, still that "splinter" ...
    1. mirag2
      mirag2 11 May 2014 07: 06
      +19
      Repelled the dominant height?
      Neshtyak!
    2. mirag2
      mirag2 11 May 2014 07: 19
      +10
      I am very glad that Strelkov is alive!
      Although there are still doubts, and right away I was not used to believing in the first word, but I really want Strelkov to be alive!
      1. ed65b
        ed65b 11 May 2014 09: 28
        +11
        Yes, he was alive he was shown on TV. tired very worn out but alive. but "lynx" did not see a voice like him behind the scenes.
  3. Alexey N
    Alexey N 11 May 2014 07: 08
    +38
    Good luck to Donbass. See you in Russia! At 6 p.m. after the war ...
    1. APASUS
      APASUS 11 May 2014 09: 18
      +18
      If this is true, then I am afraid of the National Guard not to bribe.
      1. edeligor
        edeligor 11 May 2014 10: 03
        +14
        Civil war IN ALL "BEAUTY"! Did this major think when he took the oath that he would have to explain himself in this way with his fellow citizens ...
        As an officer, I feel sorry for him. But ... choose which side to serve!
      2. Sergey777
        Sergey777 11 May 2014 10: 08
        +9
        We look at the trees, we understand that this is the end of March or the beginning of April, those misses, alas. "ps" We already have leaves on trees in Siberia, something like that.
        1. APASUS
          APASUS 11 May 2014 13: 27
          +1
          Quote: Sergey777
          We look at the trees, we understand that this is the end of March or the beginning of April, those are desa,

          It seems that the shooting was carried out even earlier, but only now
          Published May 09, 2014
          1. Ural guys
            Ural guys 12 May 2014 10: 13
            0
            This means that they were captured before!
          2. Ural guys
            Ural guys 12 May 2014 10: 13
            0
            This means that they were captured before!
      3. Chikua
        Chikua 11 May 2014 10: 14
        +8
        Here on this video they say that they pressed ...
        1. Sergey777
          Sergey777 11 May 2014 10: 43
          +5
          I will say so the 8th grade in 1982, I ended up in Ukraine, so on May 1 we went with boys to dive for crayfish. The river was called the Dnieper, and the place where we were Kakhovka reservoir wink
        2. Nikoha.2010
          Nikoha.2010 11 May 2014 11: 34
          +10
          To go nuts, to say the least! One fires, the second equips ammunition stores and ... Civilians and a dozen men with mobile phones behind their backs are shooting! What's this? No fear and sense of reality shootout? They shot at, had fun and leaned out in full growth with mobile phones ... request and on account
          "squeezed out" or not, too, only "bazaars" in my opinion no specifics. IMHO! hi And above the video with the major ukrarmiya is also not about anything!
          1. alone
            alone 11 May 2014 15: 30
            +2
            Sergey, I read your comment. We noticed it right. This can only be explained as follows: The production is staged, there is no battle there, it’s just shelling an empty area.
            As for the Grads, they also correctly noticed. Everything on the spot, captured by the major, those who took it, conversations, everything is there. Only now the settings are not visible.
            So full support for your words!
      4. Suhow
        Suhow 11 May 2014 19: 48
        +2
        I don’t know, if I’ll say it’s very insulting for the military, they are between a rock and a hard place, and the extreme ones do them.
      5. Anatolich
        Anatolich 11 May 2014 23: 14
        +2
        So as far as I understand, not the installations, but the charges for the "Grad" installation
      6. Roshchin
        Roshchin 12 May 2014 14: 59
        +1
        No joy is visible on the face of Pan Major. However, he pretends to be a simpleton: "I was put in jail in the evening and ordered to leave at 5 am." The poor man sat in the car all night, and left in the morning. It should be understood that the defenders of the Independence, under the leadership of the senior operational duty officer Mr. Kotiya, on the orders of the colonel, left early on two equipped Grad installations to admire their native Luhansk region, take pictures in nature and return in good health to the unit.
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  4. Bort radist
    Bort radist 11 May 2014 07: 10
    +8
    Quote: mirag2
    Repelled the dominant height?
    Neshtyak!

    As Suvorov said, the main maneuver!
  5. ziqzaq
    ziqzaq 11 May 2014 07: 10
    +16
    God help, in a righteous battle !!!!
    1. ya.seliwerstov2013
      ya.seliwerstov2013 11 May 2014 07: 30
      +23
      They fought to the end
      Sparing neither strength nor life,
      While still beating hearts
      The enemy will not be able to break through here.
      1. rasputin17
        rasputin17 11 May 2014 08: 00
        +18
        The picture is valid !!! good Oddly enough, they represent us and are afraid of us in the geyrope! And their fear is our strength, and we are strong with our truth because we poke their faces in the face now like lashed kittens in our own city of war ...
  6. fvandaku
    fvandaku 11 May 2014 07: 13
    +9
    When you fight for the MOTHERLAND, soldiers are ready for Great Feats.
    1. rasputin17
      rasputin17 11 May 2014 14: 21
      +6
      This is what we differ from them! We are fighting for a bright future for all, but they are in our own pocket !!
  7. Revolver
    Revolver 11 May 2014 07: 15
    +7
    Donetsk Republic has an air fleet based on a helicopter seized from Ukrainians.

    That's cool!!! There would still be someone to pilot, and the polar fox will fly to the right-wingers from the sky.
  8. bomg.77
    bomg.77 11 May 2014 07: 16
    +9
    Here is a video of this battle from the roof of the building .. the truth is hard to understand, .... night!
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  9. ssskalinin
    ssskalinin 11 May 2014 07: 29
    +8
    Not a single Western bastard will recognize the referendum. They will start yelling - "self-proclaimed republic, etc." And the self-proclaimed junta will calmly hold its presidential elections as a fascist mattress and will be recognized by all. The worst thing is that Russia will have to eat it.
    1. ar-ren
      ar-ren 11 May 2014 07: 50
      +13
      Quote: ssskalinin
      Not a single Western bastard recognizes the referendum. They start yelling - "self-proclaimed republic, etc."


      Somehow do not care, recognize or not. We are talking about the banal survival of Russian people.
    2. serega.fedotov
      serega.fedotov 11 May 2014 08: 43
      +8
      Quote: ssskalinin
      Not a single Western bastard will recognize the referendum. They will start yelling - "self-proclaimed republic, etc." And the self-proclaimed junta will calmly hold its presidential elections as a fascist mattress and will be recognized by all. The worst thing is that Russia will have to eat it.

      From a legal point of view, recognition is ONE country, a member of the Security Council!
    3. Fevrrr
      Fevrrr 11 May 2014 09: 24
      +7
      They do not recognize it - their decision. The main thing is that Russia would recognize. Ossetia and Abkhazia are also not recognized. Crimea is also not recognized, but they had to swallow its reunification with Russia. If Russia recognizes the status of LPR and DPR, plus introduces MK, for the junta and their masters there will be a blow, no less than "Crimean". The junta will not only lose two budget-forming areas, but also the IMF will revise its program for the allocation of funds. And the elections - the elections on the Ruin are under a huge question, and after the referendums it is so in general. IMHO.
    4. fyvaprold
      fyvaprold 11 May 2014 10: 12
      +7
      Russia, even having eaten this, will be able to make life difficult for this "mattress president", and without receiving the promised "European-liberal happiness", the Maydauns may again be raised, especially since the right-wing people do not intend to disarm, and there is no unity in the junta observed, one thing when they are "friends" against Russia and the South-East, and quite another, when they begin to divide "goodies" among themselves. However, I may be wrong.
    5. Thompson
      Thompson 11 May 2014 17: 26
      +1
      The most "terrible" thing is THIS REFERENDUM, THEY WILL HAVE TO EAT ALSO! (GEYZHOPEISTAM)
  10. shelva
    shelva 11 May 2014 07: 32
    +8
    The Banderlog very much do not want to allow a referendum to be held, at which they will be shown a place "by the side" - the very place.
  11. sazhka4
    sazhka4 11 May 2014 07: 34
    +4
    >> The battle, which our correspondent reported earlier, turned out to be an operation to seize the village of Andreevka by pro-Russian forces. <
    Well, again they dragged Russia .. Well, the zhurnalyugi are so stupid ..
    1. fyvaprold
      fyvaprold 11 May 2014 10: 14
      +6
      Then the "Great Russian forces", it sounds more solid. angry
    2. Egoza
      Egoza 11 May 2014 10: 21
      +9
      Quote: sazhka4
      Well, again they dragged Russia .. Well, the zhurnalyugi are so stupid ..

      They are not stupid! They are paid! laughing
  12. siberalt
    siberalt 11 May 2014 07: 41
    +15
    A difficult day is expected today. According to the results of the referendum, the Kiev junta is recognized as an aggressor on the territory of an independent state, and the troops will become occupational. The construction of new power structures will begin, the adoption of a constitution, the nationalization of enterprises is possible, "the Ukrainian border service will be demolished," they will establish their borders with checkpoints, railway lines. stations and airfields will come under the control of the republic. Should be completed by May 25.
    1. rasputin17
      rasputin17 11 May 2014 08: 03
      +9
      There is a lot of work to be done! But this work will lay the foundation for the new state and will fundamentally change the fate of the people and give new precedents in world politics! May God grant them strength and patience in this holy work !!
    2. Egoza
      Egoza 11 May 2014 10: 27
      +10
      Quote: siberalt
      As a result of the referendum, the Kiev junta will be recognized as the aggressor in the territory of an independent state, and the troops will become occupational.

      Correctly! especially in light of the fact that the junta prosecutor’s office claims!

      Nikolay Gerasimyuk. “Not to think and sentiment. If the law "On Police" provides for the right to use weapons and special equipment, the police should use them without hesitation. This is the position and acting Attorney General, and mine. Moreover, it is a requirement of the law. If in the future it will be necessary to assess the actions of the security forces, it is from these positions that the prosecutor’s office will proceed. I guarantee, ”said the prosecutor of Kiev.
      XXXX
      Once they gave carte blanche to the junta fighters! The executions by “valiant grandchildren and great-grandchildren” of UPA fighters of the civilian population of Mariupol with automatic weapons, among which were mothers with small children!
      GOD MYSELF WANTED ANSWERED ANSWERED !!! TOGETHER WITH HEROES FELLING IN WWII !!!
    3. Andron_by
      Andron_by 11 May 2014 14: 35
      +3
      Actually, Ukrainians are like this: "If Lugansk and Donetsk cannot be held, we need to take out the factories, we load all the valuable equipment, everything that cannot be taken away is burned. The enemy should have enough ruins."
      Not only the junta, but also all the bourgeois who pay for this banquet, having long since divided the skin of an unkilled teddy bear, will not be able to compare with the losses of enterprises and everything that is of value on the territory of the DPR. This is just the beginning. It will still be necessary to defend its independence.
      1. I read the news
        I read the news 11 May 2014 15: 08
        +4
        Quote: Andron_BY
        Not only the junta, but also all the bourgeois who pay for this banquet will not be able to compare with the losses of enterprises and everything that is of value on the territory of the DPR

        Bourgeois who pay for the ban are vitally interested in the destruction of enterprises. they’ve been doing this for 23 years. Their task is to de-industrialize the country.
        1. alone
          alone 11 May 2014 15: 33
          -9
          Do not worry. The region has long been subsidized, so that in any situation there will be ruins there. Mines and factories are unprofitable, lived on subsidies. They will cover subsidies - all. Mass unemployment and poverty are guaranteed.
          1. nizrum
            nizrum 11 May 2014 16: 28
            +5
            I wonder how an industrial region specializing in mining can be unprofitable?
            1. Babon
              Babon 11 May 2014 16: 48
              +2
              He meant that they are allocating c-va to support the miners. Also there are most retirees. But at the same time they give more revenue to the budget. Well, this is a long-standing dispute between Ukrainians of the West and East. They have long argued who feeds whom.
              1. Cynic
                Cynic 11 May 2014 20: 06
                +7
                Quote: Babon
                . They have long argued who feeds whom.

                Very characteristic of Ukraine.
                Previously, it fed the entire USSR, now it is only the Southeast and still does not flourish.
                What will happen when Ukraine gets rid of all parasites, it is scary to assume!
                1. stalkerwalker
                  stalkerwalker 11 May 2014 20: 54
                  +6
                  Quote: Cynic
                  scary to assume!

                  The next groaning will be "Russia is to blame for everything, therefore it is obliged to feed what remains of the Ruins for the rest of its life." laughing
          2. 26rus
            26rus 11 May 2014 19: 17
            +3
            Quote: lonely
            The region has long been subsidized,

            If Donbass is a subsidized region, then which regions of Ukraine are donors? Who feeds Ukraine at all?
            1. Babon
              Babon 11 May 2014 23: 14
              +1
              Officially, the donors are Poltava, Chernihiv, Kiev region. But if you start to disassemble, then the West of Ukraine is not particularly dotsanionen, as they bring little, they take so little. Well, the East, brings more, more and takes away from the budget.
  13. ALEX74
    ALEX74 11 May 2014 07: 44
    +8
    A helicopter is a useful thing if competent pilots can do quite a few things! I hope that there are such pilots and the banderlogs will start a haemorrhage.
    1. tolancop
      tolancop 11 May 2014 09: 43
      +7
      In addition to pilots, service staff is needed. Fuel. Ammunition. IMHO, a pair of BMPs would be much more useful.
  14. ar-ren
    ar-ren 11 May 2014 07: 49
    -34%
    turned out to be an operation to seize the village of Andreevka pro-Russian forces.


    The author is not pro-Russian! "Pro-Russian" - referring to Russia. In the DPR, Russians are fighting against Ukrainians, so it is correct to call the troops "pro-Russian".
    1. duchy
      duchy 11 May 2014 08: 23
      +22
      You are mistaken! The peoples of the South East are fighting the undefeated fascists. Like this.
      1. ar-ren
        ar-ren 11 May 2014 09: 15
        -4
        Quote: duche
        You are mistaken! The peoples of the South East are fighting the undefeated fascists. Like this.

        And Ukrainian Ukrainians are called fascists. And they consider themselves anti-fascists. Here is such a squiggle.
        1. fyvaprold
          fyvaprold 11 May 2014 10: 27
          +12
          From under the banners of "Nachtigal" and "Galicia", they call Russian fascists? They can scream, all that though, this will not change the true state of affairs. And there is no "squiggle" here, everything is straightforward like a rail.
          1. Babon
            Babon 11 May 2014 17: 00
            +2
            It is true that I saw much more accusations of fascism against Russia from Ukrainians.
        2. revnagan
          revnagan 11 May 2014 10: 49
          +12
          Quote: ar-ren
          And Ukrainian Ukrainians are called fascists.

          Not Ukrainians. Galicians. Galicians who have arrogated to themselves the name of an alien Ukrainian nation.
        3. Havoc
          Havoc 11 May 2014 11: 52
          +26
          And Ukrainian Ukrainians are called fascists. And they consider themselves anti-fascists. Here is such a squiggle. [/ Quote]

          PROBABLY THIS IS ANTI-FASHION MARCH
        4. Anper
          Anper 11 May 2014 12: 24
          +28
          Quote: ar-ren
          And Ukrainian Ukrainians are called fascists. And they consider themselves anti-fascists. Here is such a squiggle.

          From Rivne. If for them now within a couple of weeks the media will explain that the Russians are Martians, then they will call them Martians. Or there are newcomers from Tau Ceti.
          Seriously, the subconscious is so open that everything can be poured into it, provided a certain code, a set of words: corruption, lustration, Ukraine, Putin, non-bedding, etc. All just bloodied OUR Ukrainians, outside of any text on the screen, are perceived as being subjected to severe torture or beatings.
          For the entire period of maidaning (and this is almost half a year !!!) NONE OF THEM have not read the conditions for joining the EU. And then it turned out, in personal numerous conversations, that NONE OF THEM can give a definition and signs of a REVOLUTION, REVOLUTION, the same CORRUPTION, LESTRATION, TERRORISM, SEPARATISM, AUTONOMY, OCCUPATION, FEDERALIZATION, FASCISM, NAZISM, NATIONALISM. NATIONAL everyone at the level of students of grade 5. But ambition - wow!
          As a person who constantly lives in this environment, I say with all responsibility that the level of artificial splitting of consciousness (schizophrenia) is very high. AND THIS, IMHO, IS NOT THE LIMIT.
          1. I read the news
            I read the news 11 May 2014 12: 55
            +9
            Very subtle, sensible and competent observation. I agree with everything, I fully support it.
          2. archi.sailor
            archi.sailor 12 May 2014 00: 20
            +4
            I subscribe to each of your words. The spouse's brother is approximately the same as described above, one hysteria, no arguments and facts
    2. Hariva
      Hariva 11 May 2014 08: 34
      +3
      Somehow you are complicated about the simple. There is a very correct word - ANTIFASTER.
    3. Penzyac
      Penzyac 11 May 2014 13: 42
      +2
      Quote: ar-ren
      turned out to be an operation to seize the village of Andreevka pro-Russian forces.


      The author is not pro-Russian! "Pro-Russian" - referring to Russia. In the DPR, Russians are fighting against Ukrainians, so it is correct to call the troops "pro-Russian".

      Correctly call - anti-fascist!
  15. Tartarian
    Tartarian 11 May 2014 07: 59
    +19
    Neither Russians fight against Ukrainians !! Look at how many freaks of the Russian type on the other side are sables, wolves, filatov ... - and how many Ukrainians are on this side .. -brothers from Odessa for example, normal people (Ukrainians, Russians and many others) fight against critters and brainwashed. Somehow somewhere like that ..
    1. mister2013
      mister2013 11 May 2014 08: 35
      +19
      not my (although I completely agree) text by Oleg Nemensky
      … In the minds of Svidomo there is always a war, and not for life, but for death. The war is with the Russians, with Russianness. ... But the Russians refuse to call those opposing them "Ukrainians". This is unacceptable for them. It so happened in our culture that Russians do not fight against peoples at all, they fight against evil. And evil for a Russian person cannot be associated with an entire nation. Therefore, the Russians are ready to fight not with the Ukrainians, but with the fascists. And this is even a moral duty for a Russian person.
  16. coolvoldik
    coolvoldik 11 May 2014 08: 02
    +10
    Quote: ssskalinin
    Not a single Western bastard will recognize the referendum. They will start yelling - "self-proclaimed republic, etc." And the self-proclaimed junta will calmly hold its presidential elections as a fascist mattress and will be recognized by all. The worst thing is that Russia will have to eat it.

    1. Moreover, the results of the referendum will not affect the balance of power in the southeast. Most likely, punitive operations continue. The results of the referendum must be protected. To do this, you need your own army. The Slavic militia is the first step in creating an army of an independent republic. It takes time to create and equip a full-fledged army.
    2. It is unlikely that Russia will be able to use the results of the referendum as a weighty fact in recognizing the republic's independence. The introduction of Russian troops into the region under the flag of peacekeepers is the only mechanism for protecting the results of the referendum. One more thesis out loud - NATO is waiting for the appeal of the "legally elected" president on May 25th.
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  17. Gray 43
    Gray 43 11 May 2014 08: 29
    +8
    The DPR decided to protect itself on the eve of the referendum and pushed the fighter further away, if that goes so, then the militias will put the block post on Khreshchatyk!
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 11 May 2014 10: 31
      +6
      Quote: Gray 43
      then the militia will put the block post on Khreshchatyk!

      So that’s why around Kiev, 9 checkpoints have already been built! the guys will be off the road, so immediately they will prepare a place of rest! laughing
      1. I read the news
        I read the news 11 May 2014 12: 57
        +5
        Quote: Egoza
        So that’s why around Kiev, 9 checkpoints have already been built!

        around all (at least regional) cities, roadblocks.
  18. akmatov
    akmatov 11 May 2014 08: 49
    +8
    everything that happens in your homeland is very sad. There must be a mind. And at Th House, the war that among the brothers foment Western politicians. We will stand against the West, my grandfather who fought the Great Patriotic War proved that when we together we will not conquer!
    1. Oprychnik
      Oprychnik 11 May 2014 09: 03
      +2
      Found what to look for from Turchaninov and Yaytsenyuk! Or do not you mean them? In this case, first understand the situation!
  19. Zomanus
    Zomanus 11 May 2014 08: 51
    +5
    It is necessary to pull up fighters and weapons. And arrange not positional battles, but attacks with raids and waste. Let their Chechens teach this. First of all, to deprive mobility, fuel supplies and software. But we will see this later, when the war begins for real.
    1. ar-ren
      ar-ren 11 May 2014 09: 16
      -13%
      Quote: Zomanus
      And arrange not positional battles, but attacks with raids and waste. Let their Chechens teach this.


      a) that is how the Russians fought today at night with the Ukrainians in Slavyansk;
      b) militarily Chechens lost the war.
      1. fyvaprold
        fyvaprold 11 May 2014 10: 51
        +2
        Chechens in Slavyansk? What planet are you from?
    2. fyvaprold
      fyvaprold 11 May 2014 11: 56
      +8
      Chechens there nah ... th are not needed and they should not be there under any circumstances !!! For Russians, Ukrainians, Belarusians, there are brothers everywhere and they will shoot only when they see no other way out, for the Vainakhs there are no relatives, so, "Rusnya" of different sorts, and they will obviously not have pity for anyone, who has doubts google Chernokozovo, Naur 91-93. In addition, hardly anyone in Ukraine will understand if the Slavs will use foreigners against the Slavs, this will be a gift for the junta propaganda (Remember Georgia, and the cries that the Orthodox are against the Orthodox, Muslims are used)! If anyone thinks that there is no one cooler than the Chechens in Russia (and therefore on Earth), let them remember who, whom "backed" in the same Chechnya, Kadyrov Sr. obviously did not go over to the side of the federals out of Russophile motives. Therefore, kindly request, before you write something on the "blue eye", evaluate how the written will be read, look and interpret, and in the worst version of propaganda.
      1. sniper
        sniper 11 May 2014 12: 08
        +9
        Quote: fyvaprold
        and they should not be there under any circumstances !!!
        But this is you in vain, dear ... Chechens are the same citizens of Russia as you are ... Maybe in your and Israeli Aliya there is no place ??? Anyone needs help. And from people like you, only angry posts, can you eat yourself ??? hi
        1. fyvaprold
          fyvaprold 11 May 2014 13: 42
          +6
          It is possible that I will go. Novodvorskaya, Borovoy and other Nemtsovs are also citizens, or you want to invite them too. In Ukraine, the whole buzz is due to a misunderstanding (in one form or another) between the two Slavic peoples and this misunderstanding should be resolved only between them and citizenship has absolutely nothing to do with it. What "right to his native Russian language" will Kadyrov defend there? By the way, Kadyrov and his comrades belong to the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Russian Federation, and the Ministry of Internal Affairs, no one authorized to solve problems "over the hill", so all his statements (Kadyrov) are just a flood or Yarosh's fat trolling with the company. Now about ANY help: can you still ask the Devil to call on the Afghan Talibs, the Janjaids from Sudan, the last two categories will gladly explain to the Ukrainians how to do namaz. Help is needed when you lack your strength, and even that is far from ANYONE. IMHO. And about going, so I repeat that I do not exclude this. There was no anger in my post, just a slight shock from appeals to help the South-East, anyone who does not mind killing with impunity. With respect.
          1. sniper
            sniper 11 May 2014 14: 21
            +2
            Quote: fyvaprold
            By the way, Kadyrov and his associates belong to the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Russian Federation,
            So that's it .... Only in the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Russian Federation no one has yet canceled a vacation, and the vacationer has every right to leave abroad for a vacation ...
            Quote: fyvaprold
            Novodvorskaya, Borovoy and other Nemtsovs, also citizens,
            To my greatest regret ... Only "Novodvorskaya, Borovoy and other Nemtsovs" is not a nationality, but rather a diagnosis ...
            Quote: fyvaprold
            In Ukraine, the whole booze due to a misunderstanding (in one form or another) between two Slavic peoples

            But what about the rest living in Ukraine ???
            Representatives of more than 130 nationalities and nationalities live in Ukraine ... source http://topwar.ru/46862-situaciya-na-yugo-vostoke-ukrainy-hronika-sobytiy-11-maya
            -obnovlyaetsya.html # comment-id-2505570
            1. fyvaprold
              fyvaprold 11 May 2014 15: 02
              +1
              The trouble is that for some, war is a vacation, such as a safari, and that is why I am categorically against such "vacationers", perhaps I exaggerate, but where there is a safari, there is sextourism. As for 130 nationalities, so I have nothing against these 130 nationalities, as well as against the Chechen nation, but only the "pravoseki" and other fascist riffraffs focus not on the 130 peoples of Ukraine and not on the 200 peoples of Russia, but specifically on "Mosk .. .lyah ", therefore I think that giving them (PS) extra trump cards is not worth it, and the participation of the" Kadyrovtsy having a rest "will turn out to be the trump card, especially taking into account the" glorious combat past "of Mr. Kadyrov and his participation in both Chechen companies, and with both sides. Call him "Putin's punisher" in Ukraine, so no one will doubt, call him "saboteur and incitement" I think, too, why expose the patriots of the South-East with such rather dubious help (not in military terms) before the same "Western Public". If Russia can still afford to score a "bolt" on this "public", then the DPR can hardly afford this, at least at first. And the participation of foreign "specialists", who in the West will not be called any other than mercenaries, will not add political weight to the results of the referendum. If a Russian or a Ukrainian living in Russia, to the question: - What are you doing here !?; can always answer: - I have come to my relatives !, and basta, what kind of relatives can hot Chechen guys come to? I have said everything more or less obvious to the Duma, so Putin and Kadyrov have not yet given carte blanche. IMHO
              PS As for the "diagnosis", I completely agree with you, but the "diagnosis" of citizenship does not cancel (unfortunately).
              PPS: It occurred to me to make a more accurate comparison of the situation (for Chechens in Ukraine) - if you have a quarrel with your brother and it came to a fight, then it’s extremely wrong to call to beat your brother’s face, neighbor. Neither relatives will understand, nor neighbors will approve!
              1. sniper
                sniper 11 May 2014 15: 10
                +1
                Quote: fyvaprold
                that for some, war is a vacation
                Dear (I can not pronounce your nickname) What are you talking about ??? Something your posts smack of Nazism ... I can not agree with you, and the opinion of the PS and the rest of the junta is somehow on the drum for me ... But the combat unit worked out is worth a lot, this is not a militia, the combat effectiveness is much higher ...
                Are you sure that in the ranks of the Army of the Southeast there are only purebred Russians? Maybe still offer ethnic cleansing ??? Hence the question, are you a friend?
                1. fyvaprold
                  fyvaprold 11 May 2014 15: 20
                  +1
                  Nazism? There are no words!
                  1. sniper
                    sniper 11 May 2014 15: 32
                    +3
                    Quote: fyvaprold
                    if you have a quarrel with your brother
                    Most likely, you do not quite understand what is happening ... This is not an ethnic conflict, but a struggle between two ideologies, lifestyles, if you want ... just one ideologically closer to Russia, and the other ... Yes, and most of the PS it’s not the Ukrainians, nor the Slavs, much less our brothers ... There are Russians on the other side and Ukrainians on this ... So the national approach is completely inappropriate ...
                    1. fyvaprold
                      fyvaprold 11 May 2014 15: 39
                      +2
                      Perhaps you are right, and I have not expressed my thoughts clearly enough. I am not trying to bring the situation to ethnic conflict, I am trying to imagine how it will look in the West.
                      1. sniper
                        sniper 11 May 2014 15: 51
                        +2
                        Quote: fyvaprold
                        I'm trying to imagine how it will look in the West.
                        Absolutely, no matter what happens there ... "This is Putin, the great and terrible, is to blame ..." The West does not bother and sends PMCs and advisers, invests money and binds, how can Russia ... So from that they will be there Chechen fighters or not, nothing in the position of the West will change ... And about the vacations in the Ministry of Internal Affairs, I wrote not because I consider Chechens to be fans of extreme tourism, but only because if Russia does not officially introduce troops, then some people may be called there hearts ... And it doesn't matter who they are by profession, janitors or special forces officers ... Well, something like that ...
                  2. sniper
                    sniper 11 May 2014 15: 40
                    0
                    Friends do not minus fyvaproldotherwise I will have to compensate ... :)
                    1. fyvaprold
                      fyvaprold 11 May 2014 16: 19
                      +4
                      Why does everyone have the right to their opinion, this is a civilized form of communication. But at the risk of catching a minus, I will try to convey my thoughts again.
                      The result of any war (and in Ukraine, in my opinion, it is now) can be recognized as legitimate only if the war itself is "legitimate". There is a war going on in Ukraine, if not for self-determination, then at least for the recognition of equal rights within ONE country, In fact, this is a civil war, but participation in a civil war, on one of the sides of foreigners (any) is called mercenary, which according to the Rules and Customs of Waging War (the names of the code of laws are not given in full) is not legal, and as for mercenaries ... and for employers, but it's half the trouble. The participation of a "well-coordinated subdivision" from among the foreign special services (Defense Ministry, Ministry of Internal Affairs, FSB, etc.) is usually called INTERVENTION, participants - interventionists. So, the result, a victorious one, of course, of such a war, with such participants, cannot be recognized as LEGAL, hence the referendum and the new authorities are also illegal. From the above, follow - sanctions, isolation and many other unpleasant consequences. If Russia can afford to give a damn about the sanctions, then the Donetsk People's Republic cannot. You cannot sell goods anywhere, even through Russia, remember Iraq (oil for food). In order for the result of a civil war to be recognized as legal, only citizens of one country should participate in it (the war), but with different views (which are not particularly important), so when the citizens of Ukraine are helped to fight with other citizens of Ukraine, foreigners are illegal. No options. Therefore, if you do help (and you need to help), it is BESPALEVA !!! The Chechen will be "copied" at a time, even more so that the personnel of the Kadyrovsk Special Forces are probably known by name to the Western special services, balaclavas will not help, Chechens may also die. People of Slavic appearance do not stand out from the general mass, and you can explain their presence, as I said, by a trip to visit relatives. Why question (albeit with a low probability) the results of the referendum, when so much blood has already been shed. This is what I meant. And about the brothers, as your words, as among the Pravoseks, there are enough Russians, so can give them a chance (who deserves) to think again, and not to blame everyone in a herd? With respect.
                      1. dkflbvbh
                        dkflbvbh 11 May 2014 16: 47
                        +5
                        I would say the broadest - there Russians are now fighting against Russians (if some have been calling themselves Ukrainians since 17, then they have not ceased to be Russians).
                      2. I read the news
                        I read the news 11 May 2014 16: 48
                        +3
                        that is, in your opinion, for example, if my relatives or friends are killed in a neighboring country, then I should not stick my head out "otherwise the war will be declared illegal"?
                      3. fyvaprold
                        fyvaprold 11 May 2014 19: 51
                        0
                        No. I didn’t say this if your loved ones are offended (not necessarily killed), you have the right, to say the least, to help them, but under their banners, and not under the banners of a foreign power (in fact a foreign power, not heart), so that no one then he didn’t accuse your loved ones of bringing foreigners to their native land.
                    2. sniper
                      sniper 11 May 2014 18: 00
                      +1
                      Quote: fyvaprold
                      ... The participation of a "well-coordinated subdivision" from among foreign special services (Ministry of Defense, Ministry of Internal Affairs, FSB, etc.) is called INTERVENTION,
                      In the event that this unit was introduced by another country without UN sanction ... In case the fighters of this unit arrived in private, then these are volunteers, volunteers ... and a lot of other terms, in addition, the presence of amers is a recognized fact. .. In some ways, of course, you are right, the best option is if the Southeast manages itself, holds a referendum and defeats the bad people all over the world .... Only this is from the realm of fiction, at least they need this war to survive, regular units were thrown against them ...
                    3. Cynic
                      Cynic 11 May 2014 20: 09
                      +1
                      Quote: sniper
                      regular units were thrown against them ...

                      The fact that they threw it for sure.
  20. oldy
    oldy 11 May 2014 14: 48
    +2
    Polish, Italian mercenaries (Catholics) are definitely in Slavyansk! And brazenly - Saxon mattresses (atheists)!
    So the Chechen fighters of Ramzan Kadyrov will slaughter the heads not only to ukronazists (uniates) ... something like that
    1. fyvaprold
      fyvaprold 11 May 2014 15: 28
      +1
      So the presence of these mercenaries is a minus for the junta and a plus for the South-West, why equalize trumps. Well, those who wish
      can see Zikr and Grozny visit.
  21. Stanislas
    Stanislas 11 May 2014 22: 51
    +5
    Quote: fyvaprold
    Brothers are everywhere for Russians, Ukrainians, Belarusians
    I am a Slav. But the Chechen who is fighting in Chechnya today against the "shaitans" is much closer and dearer to me than the Slavs who previously fought against Russia there, but today they are burning people in Odessa, killing policemen in Mariupol who did not betray their people. Something like this.
    1. fyvaprold
      fyvaprold 12 May 2014 19: 46
      +1
      Quote: Stanislav
      I am a Slav. But the Chechen who is fighting in Chechnya today against the "shaitans" is much closer and dearer to me than the Slavs who previously fought against Russia there, but today they are burning people in Odessa, killing policemen in Mariupol who did not betray their people. Something like this.

      Those who are now fighting against the "shaitans" in Chechnya, in the first campaign, cut the heads of captured Russian soldiers and civilians. Kadyrov was in the gang of "Shaitan Basayev" and the fact that he "changed color" is not an indulgence, at least for those who have lost relatives or colleagues there, and in general, such actions are not very "hygienic." Seeing a bunch of severed heads, folded in a neat heap under a poster with the inscription: "LOVE RUSSIANS, AND THAT USEBU", I think that even mothers will curse those who called for such "help". Yes, yes, these are words for you - "to cut your heads", this is a "catchword", but for Chechens it is gray everyday life.
      I generally cannot understand whether my encoding is not the right one, or whether my dialect of the Russian language is so difficult to understand, but they categorically do not want to understand me. In the South-East there is a war going on for the right to be "Russian", and not for the right to be "Russian" (it was not I who planted this national idea there, but the right-wing people) and therefore the help should be provided by "Russian-speaking volunteers" (don't get it wrong), and not just "citizens of the RF". There is no Nazism, nationalism, defeatism, chauvinism, etc. in my posts on this topic, I just logically justify the INappropriate participation of some "categories of volunteers" in these events. Respectfully.
  • delfinN
    delfinN 11 May 2014 08: 55
    +8
    Quote: rasputin17
    There is a lot of work to be done!
  • urii
    urii 11 May 2014 09: 02
    +5
    Quote: vladsolo56
    Listen to what Putin says, and he says that he recognizes a united Ukraine, and will only negotiate with the authorities after the presidential election, i.e. with the junta. I did not hear a word of support from the DPR from him. Not a word of condolences to the dead: what is in Odessa, what is in Slavyansk, what is in Mariupol. If you heard then correct me.

    he didn’t talk about the junta. he doesn’t recognize and will not recognize. there is no one Ukraine anymore. he’s already referendum. in the southeast. He’ll talk with the southeast. Yes, and the junta will soon come the scribe already
  • Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 11 May 2014 09: 06
    +24
    Well, the Slavs are today a watershed day! For a long time already the ridges are not like that ..
  • coolvoldik
    coolvoldik 11 May 2014 09: 14
    +8
    In 2008, the Americans cut off part of Serbia's territory - Kosovo. They didn't need any referendum! The entire "world community" wiped out and recognized the new state. They just gave the whole "community" a simple canine command - PLACE!
    Until there is a clear signal - WHO IS IN THE HOUSE OF OWNERS! (Eurasian continent). You will always hear the command- PLACE!
  • Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 11 May 2014 09: 22
    +48
    Europe is heading into the abyss .. The winner of Eurovision (I don’t even know what to call it) is a peasant woman damn ugh .. It’s necessary the Slavs again to clean up the geyropu otherwise this infection will destroy the whole world ..!
    1. rasputin17
      rasputin17 11 May 2014 09: 48
      +38
      Are you serious!!!! Is it that this piece of trance turns out to be the winner of Eurovision ??? negative I am losing weight with these tirpil !!!! Tell me what, in this case, should we strive for what are their values ​​??? We have our own ideals and values ​​for which we should be committed and striving !!
      1. kare
        kare 11 May 2014 10: 23
        +12
        Europe is heading into the abyss .. The winner of Eurovision (I don’t even know what to call it) is a peasant woman damn ugh .. It’s necessary the Slavs again to clean up the geyropu otherwise this infection will destroy the whole world ..!

        Two months ago, it was already decided on the winner. Our cast in the net
        against the fate of this freak. But this vote mysteriously disappeared
        And this homodril was already predicted to be the winners. Imagine how many children watched this scum. Those parents who allowed children to the screens still bitterly repent
      2. 29261
        29261 11 May 2014 13: 24
        +4
        Russia will save the world! Slavic world is the keeper and distributor of universal values!
    2. Bayonet
      Bayonet 11 May 2014 13: 33
      +4
      Now this creature in the news saw - ugh !! Lord, don’t bring such a dream! Chur me! Well, Geyropa chose ....
      1. cumastra1
        cumastra1 11 May 2014 13: 50
        +3
        It is necessary to send Dzhigurda to the next "vision" ...
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    3. from punk
      from punk 11 May 2014 16: 14
      +1
      Quote: MIKHAN
      Europe is rolling into the abyss.
      Quote: MIKHAN
      Europe is heading into the abyss .. The winner of Eurovision (I don’t even know what to call it) is a peasant woman damn ugh .. It’s necessary the Slavs again to clean up the geyropu otherwise this infection will destroy the whole world ..!

      poor Austrian men smile although their women are not more beautiful wassat there you have the Aryan nation
  • ed65b
    ed65b 11 May 2014 09: 33
    +20
    Hi Vitaly, I almost vomited when I found out and saw this P.I. It would be better if they gave dill, it would be clearer. Now Eurovision will turn into a homo-transvestite bunch. It’s time to forget the road in the euro garden.
    1. urii
      urii 11 May 2014 09: 38
      +6
      I did not understand. in the news. is it a baba or a pido
      1. hz123
        hz123 11 May 2014 10: 01
        +7
        Austrian Thomas Neuwirth, better known as Conchita Wurst
      2. L77
        L77 11 May 2014 11: 45
        +7
        Quote: urii
        I did not understand. in the news. is it a baba or a pido

        This is it.
        An abomination, just an abomination, where does the world go?
    2. Vitaly Anisimov
      Vitaly Anisimov 11 May 2014 09: 41
      +8
      Quote: ed65b
      Hi Vitaly, I almost vomited when I found out and saw this P.I. It would be better if they gave dill, it would be clearer. Now Eurovision will turn into a homo-transvestite bunch. It’s time to forget the road in the euro garden.

      Greetings to Edward ..! I myself was shocked hoping that Ukraine would be given the first (for political reasons) .. This is complete degradation ..
      1. Egoza
        Egoza 11 May 2014 10: 33
        +5
        Quote: MIKHAN
        I myself was shocked hoping that Ukraine would be given the first (for political reasons) .. This is complete degradation ..

        The fact that degradation is complete - I agree! But the fact that Ukraine was not given first place for political reasons - elegantly demonstrates the attitude of Europe towards Ukraine!
        1. Vitaly Anisimov
          Vitaly Anisimov 11 May 2014 10: 47
          +5
          Quote: Egoza
          The fact that degradation is complete - I agree! But the fact that Ukraine was not given first place for political reasons - elegantly demonstrates the attitude of Europe towards Ukraine!

          Greetings Egoza! You, as always, to the point .. The main fratricidal war was fanned ... The goal is achieved, you can forget to let Russia understand Here are the bastards ...
    3. fyvaprold
      fyvaprold 11 May 2014 10: 58
      +4
      But I vomited heartily. Everything was right there, there should be no other way in the EU, 100 years will pass, they (the Geyropaeans) will die out, for natural reasons, mind you, and Russia's problems with its "Western (sexual) partners" will sink into oblivion. I welcome the choice of the EU (both in Eurovision and in life) with both hands.
  • Sib. Uralets
    Sib. Uralets 11 May 2014 09: 37
    +10
    The main thing is to hold a referendum, calculate the results and announce the results. If according to the results the Donetsk Republic is announced, then you can turn to the Russian Federation for help. And Russia, respecting the self-determination of the inhabitants of the Southeast, will simply be obliged to help. I would also like to add about the state of our defense industry. As far as I remember, the Russian Federation on arms imports is now in the lead. And this suggests that the military-industrial complex now has enormous opportunities. And if necessary, all this will be redirected to the needs of our country. Even without mobilizing additional resources, you can get tremendous help. But many were outraged that the weapons were being sold abroad. But in fact, there was a restoration of our defense industry. Which once again proves that we are led by a wise man
  • Pastor
    Pastor 11 May 2014 09: 45
    +4
    Quote: maxcor1974
    More importantly, what Putin did not say ...
    I’d like to say that they understand correctly, without emotions and tantrums ..
  • Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 11 May 2014 09: 48
    +6
    Quote: urii
    I did not understand. in the news. is it a baba or a pido

    It's time to figure it out .. laughing Everywhere they can come from the rear at any time ..)) laughing laughing laughing The main thing is to keep the flanks ...
    1. rasputin17
      rasputin17 11 May 2014 11: 31
      +3
      Quote: MIKHAN
      Quote: urii
      I did not understand. in the news. is it a baba or a pido

      It's time to figure it out .. laughing Everywhere they can come from the rear at any time ..)) laughing laughing laughing The main thing is to keep the flanks ...

      You suggest wearing a cast-iron frying pan in your pants so that you don’t sneak up! ?? belay
      1. Cynic
        Cynic 11 May 2014 20: 18
        +1
        Quote: rasputin17
        Suggest wearing a cast iron skillet in your pants

        Somehow I got _ armored podzhopnik wink
    2. Penzyac
      Penzyac 11 May 2014 14: 18
      0
      Quote: MIKHAN
      Quote: urii
      I did not understand. in the news. is it a baba or a pido

      It's time to figure it out .. laughing Everywhere they can come from the rear at any time ..)) laughing laughing laughing The main thing is to keep the flanks ...

      The main thing is not to bend down! Europe has bent down - the result is on the face (or on the face). am
  • orthopedist
    orthopedist 11 May 2014 09: 52
    +2
    Here are the songs you need to listen to in Ukraine http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmuOZ1ExXWk&feature=youtu.be
  • gunter_laux
    gunter_laux 11 May 2014 09: 56
    +6
    What Geyropa, such are the winners! And the guys in Slavyansk would have tossed more grenade launchers, they would dare these creatures at once.
  • Signaller
    Signaller 11 May 2014 10: 02
    +14

    And the height is known and the village, but you have to stand. For you.
    Personally, it just doesn’t fit in my head that this NOW can happen. Good luck. For victory.
  • Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 11 May 2014 10: 02
    +21
    That kudy pull Ukraine .. Again, soon to clean up the European infection will have to ..
    1. Tartarian
      Tartarian 11 May 2014 10: 45
      +6
      This is our symbol, the name of Conchitta (I will never forget you ... from Juno and Avos) was rude, here is a hoopoe !!!
    2. 1Andrei
      1Andrei 11 May 2014 14: 17
      +2
      It's cool, earlier in the program "Masks of the Show" they painted like that ha ha ha
  • Vadim2013
    Vadim2013 11 May 2014 10: 04
    +8
    Yes, the militias lack modern weapons.
    1. typhoon7
      typhoon7 11 May 2014 13: 27
      0
      After the referendum will appear, on very legitimate grounds.
  • coolvoldik
    coolvoldik 11 May 2014 10: 08
    0
    Quote: Sib. Uralets
    The main thing is to hold a referendum, calculate the results and announce the results. If according to the results the Donetsk Republic is announced, then you can turn to the Russian Federation for help ...

    And if the results are 50/50, what will we do next? Holding a referendum in such an information field is a huge risk. On the next branch -Ukraine: a lost war for brains, this is reality. Now of course it's too late to wave a saber, it remains to smoke nervously.
  • Stalnov I.P.
    Stalnov I.P. 11 May 2014 10: 12
    +9
    So the X-day has come which will show who and what it is worth, I hope that the citizens of the Donetsk Republic understand everything. The Maidan people will surely screech along with their Western accomplices, life goes on and if everything is restored normally, I think Russia will help, and then other areas will think flag in their hands, we will wait for the RESULTS!
  • individual
    individual 11 May 2014 10: 19
    +3
    We look forward to the results of the REFERENDUM!
  • Russ69
    Russ69 11 May 2014 10: 26
    +13
    True or not?

    1. Vitaly Anisimov
      Vitaly Anisimov 11 May 2014 10: 42
      +6
      Polite turntables .... (everything goes to this) .. Let's focus Southeast ... then we'll go to Kiev together!
    2. Zauralec
      Zauralec 11 May 2014 11: 11
      +8
      I think the Ukrainian warriors themselves surrendered it, or maybe switched to the side of the militias. In general, the news is just great. Cross your fingers for the Donetsk and Lugansk republics.
  • Free Island
    Free Island 11 May 2014 10: 35
    +11
    here a dispute ensued - the referendum decides something or not. I will say right away - SOLVES. For one simple reason - according to the rules of international law, in order to recognize the sovereignty of a state, it should be recognized by ALL TWO SOVEREVERNESS COUNTRIES. That is, recognition of the DPR by Russia and Belarus will suffice. So it was with South Ossetia and Abkhazia, though Batko then failed, Belarus did not recognize the independence of these two republics, but Venezuela recognized them (if I am not mistaken) and some kind of Zimbabwe in Africa (UN member by the way) and that was enough)) )))) so that after the DPR referendum, Russia and some Guadeloupe or Papua New Guinea are recognized, and this will be enough for Russia to officially be able to help both financially and financially with weapons ..
    1. dkflbvbh
      dkflbvbh 11 May 2014 14: 25
      -5
      I repeat once again - there is no question of disconnecting. That you pasta to a respected public hang on ears.
      1. oldy
        oldy 11 May 2014 15: 11
        +3
        Dear, don't you hang up spaghetti for us? Above is a resident of Slavyansk and an activist. DPR Lord Sith posted a fresh photo of a voting ballot from the referendum precinct and on it is written in black and white: "Do you support
        The Act on State Independence of the Donetsk People's Republic "... Doesn't this prove the" disconnection "? So dear, you are giving away what you wish for reality!
        1. nizrum
          nizrum 11 May 2014 16: 36
          +2
          The DPR can be part of Federal Ukraine as a state. (Such as the autonomous republic of Crimea).
          1. oldy
            oldy 11 May 2014 17: 45
            +4
            ..... after Odessa on May 2 after Mariupol on May 9 after bloody battles in Slavyansk, Kramatorsk, after the murder of civilians in Andreevka? I personally would not be able to live with banderlog in one even federal state, I will not hide my young colleague at work in one organization in the Far North from Donetsk, took a vacation at his own expense, took Kalash into his own hands and is now fighting in one of the battalions of ADNR - they corresponded a little on Facebook so he is very categorical: "or sovereignty, or even better, joining the Russian Federation under the flag of NOVOROSSIA (FRN) ...
            Of course, he is a hot guy, a young head of the production site, politically active, "lively" as his name is at work- :) .. But! Alas, the fourth day has not been contacted -: ((((in an extreme correspondence he said that he was going to "raise the Zaporozhye Cossacks for the uprising" ..... Good luck Andrey!
      2. Free Island
        Free Island 12 May 2014 05: 14
        +2
        I do not hang pasta)))) I speak from the point of view of a lawyer. First, the DPR will not necessarily secede. It is enough to become autonomous within Ukraine and then leave as easily as Crimea did. Autonomy is the ability of the subject of the state for an INDEPENDENT foreign policy and economic activity. That is, the DPR, even if it remains a part of Ukraine, can conduct economic activity bypassing Kiev, and accordingly the Kiev budget)) is this not independence ??? That is the meaning of autonomy. Including the right to leave the state. For example, in Russia, such subject-states in the state are "Jewish woman" (Jewish AUTONOMOUS region), Khanty-Mansi Autonomous Okrug and, accordingly, the REPUBLIC. So from my clumsy explanation, I think you now see and understand that the supporters of federalization and autonomy do not just want this federalization and autonomy? That is why they want to get away from Kiev with the ends if in Kiev the stoned inadequate ki will remain in power.
  • Egoza
    Egoza 11 May 2014 10: 38
    +12
    A-a-a-! on TV hysteria - you laugh! "Elections at gunpoint! They will change into civilian clothes to look democratic, but everyone will be armed there!" They show Ukrainians who say "we want peace on our land, we want to live on our own" - and that's what kind of bastards no one says "we want to go to Russia"! So let our TV down! Well, it will not be possible to drag Russia in! laughing
    1. nizrum
      nizrum 11 May 2014 16: 37
      +3
      Yes, there will be no accession to Russia, so no one says. There will be either autonomy within the federation, or a completely independent country.
      1. Free Island
        Free Island 12 May 2014 05: 28
        +2
        well, let’s say, the DPR as an independent country will not last long. Let's face it. Therefore, like all the small states of the former USSR, they will be forced to choose from ONLY TWO options - live next to Russia or lie under NATO, the EU and the USA. It is clear that the DPR under NATO, the USA and the EU will not lie, therefore, very close cooperation (primarily military and economic) with Russia will be established, well, and then why not join Russia as the same autonomous region or republic ?: ))) here the main point is SEPARATION from Kiev, the recognition of this fact by several states and the beginning of cooperation with Russia, Kazakhstan, Belarus and .. which is very important with China)))))) this will be a very serious roof for the DNI)))
    2. Free Island
      Free Island 12 May 2014 05: 22
      +2
      Quote: Egoza
      on TV hysteria - you laugh! "Elections at gunpoint!

      Western political strategists and their forgiveness TUTki in Kiev apparently fizzled out .. the inferiority of Western education is affected. Well, they can't come up with anything new, because exactly the same hysterics have already been about the referendum in Crimea)))) are still squealing that the elections in Crimea were also held at gunpoint, guns from the ships of the Black Sea Fleet of Russia and almost not at gunpoint "Topol"))))) In short, they would already say that Putin himself ran around polling stations with a chainsaw and in a kimono for judo and forced Crimeans to vote for joining the Russian Federation)))))))))) ))
  • Lunic
    Lunic 11 May 2014 10: 38
    +5
    And when did they manage to put a concrete fence there? ... Oh, when the beautiful roses on the beds of this dispensary for girls were cut off at night ... and then they molted from the watchmen! :) ... like Novikov’s song.
    and about Gradov-Strelkov after all said that there was no such thing. it is necessary to stop on this.
  • Partisan Kramaha
    Partisan Kramaha 11 May 2014 10: 39
    +3
    Quote: APASUS
    If this is true, then I am afraid of the National Guard not to bribe.

    Well, as much as you can! Look at the trees! They are bare, and now the foliage is rolling, lilacs and chestnuts are in full bloom!
    1. 51064
      51064 11 May 2014 11: 08
      +3
      Moreover, if you listen carefully, there are no direct indications that the Grads or their ammunition have been seized.
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  • Russ69
    Russ69 11 May 2014 10: 43
    +3
    Quote: Partizan Kramaha
    Well, as much as you can! Look at the trees! They are bare, and now the foliage is rolling, lilacs and chestnuts are in full bloom!

    Strelkov has already denied information about the capture of Gradov ...
  • UVB
    UVB 11 May 2014 10: 50
    +30
    Just went to the referendum. To be honest, I didn’t even expect such an influx of people, in any election at this time such a cluster did not exist. At my polling station, it's the turn. I did not notice suspicious personalities. Lugansk.
    1. boozer
      boozer 11 May 2014 11: 11
      +6
      Well done! Your future is in your hands!
    2. rasputin17
      rasputin17 11 May 2014 12: 43
      +9
      Quote: UVB
      Just went to the referendum. To be honest, I didn’t even expect such an influx of people, in any election at this time such a cluster did not exist. At my polling station, it's the turn. I did not notice suspicious personalities. Lugansk.

      We are the whole team in distant Kazakhstan cheering for you !!! In the evening we want to celebrate your victory and how to drink for you !! drinks We are guys !!!
    3. oldy
      oldy 11 May 2014 15: 27
      +4
      Respect and respect for the voted Luhansk residents! Now, after the vote count and our undoubted victory, it is advisable to introduce a limited contingent of Russian peacekeepers into the territory of the Lugansk and Donetsk people's republics and peacefully separate the APU and the security forces on the one hand, and let them load heavy military equipment onto the railway rolling stock themselves!
      (Nazi guards captured, put on a chain and forced to work in the face) and the DNI militia on the other hand (they should not be disarmed yet) .... IMHO
  • Russ69
    Russ69 11 May 2014 10: 54
    +10
    Quote: UVB
    Just went to the referendum. To be honest, I didn’t even expect such an influx of people, in any election at this time such a cluster did not exist. At my polling station, it's the turn. I did not notice suspicious personalities. Lugansk.

    Well done ... I looked at the streams, really despite the morning, there are enough people ...

    The latest report from Slavyansk ...
    SLAVYANSK, May 11 - RIA Novosti. The people's volunteer corps of Sloviansk escaped losses during the night and morning shelling by armed units controlled by Kiev, the "people's mayor" of Sloviansk Vyacheslav Ponomarev told reporters on Sunday.

    In the morning on the outskirts of the city of Slavyansk in the Donetsk region, blocked by Ukrainian security forces, intense firing was heard, which was accompanied by explosions of artillery ammunition. Last night, intensive shooting was also carried out in the vicinity of the village of Andreevka. The shelling is now verse.

    "At night there were clashes in the area of ​​Andreevka, the railway station, Cherenkovka. There was a mortar attack," Ponomarev confirmed. According to him, "there were no losses."

    "The only victims are three people who got bumps when the car rolled over," he added.

    On Sunday in the Donetsk region held a referendum on the status of the region. Voting stations opened in Slavyansk on time, despite the shelling of roadblocks.

    РИА Новости http://ria.ru/world/20140511/1007327296.html#ixzz31O5MiAe0
  • Codename49
    Codename49 11 May 2014 11: 02
    +6
    NEW VIDEO ABOUT HOMO INTEGRATORS

    The full version of the battle at the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Mariupol on May 9. (video)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WExEvZYR6yU&feature=youtu.be
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    2. Codename49
      Codename49 11 May 2014 20: 02
      0
      Well, when will the heroes appear and the day of the triumph of justice ??? !!!
  • Egoza
    Egoza 11 May 2014 11: 03
    +11
    GOOD FELLOWS !!!
    And it’s good that they do not lose their vigilance! a little earlier on May 11 ...
    According to self-defense activists, they have been following two Red Cross vehicles since April 14th. According to the information collected, these cars were parked at a distance from the center. They drove into the city at night, the drivers changed in them. During a search of cars, self-defense supporters found waybills in the airport, walkie-talkies and spare Ukrainian numbers, although they had European Union numbers on them, RIA Novosti reported.
    Activists said that people driving in cars who introduced themselves as doctors had no other certificates except badges without seals and could not answer basic questions related to medicine.
    In addition, activists found that armored windows were installed in the cars. At the moment, the cars are confiscated and sent to help supporters of federalization in Mariupol, and the detainees were released on Friday. “They were released last night, no one beat them, a conversation was held, they themselves can confirm this,” one of the militias said at a press conference.
    According to the Secretary of the International Committee of the Red Cross for Europe and Central Asia, David-Pierre Marche, a total of 9 employees of this humanitarian organization were detained. “They were detained for control in Donetsk and quickly released. It was not about taking hostages, ”ITAR-TASS quoted him as saying.
    “Representatives of the Donetsk People’s Republic detained them, but when they found out that the task of the Red Cross was purely humanitarian, to conduct an assessment of humanitarian needs, they were released. Today they continue to work, ”said a representative of the Organization.
    xxxxx
    So much for the Red Cross! As the guys assumed, they transported weapons and PS. And this is very similar to the truth, whatever the "international organizations" say !!!
    1. 51064
      51064 11 May 2014 11: 25
      +5
      It's like in the movie "The Eggs of Destiny". "An ambulance is sacred, a person is bad there" bully
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  • voveim
    voveim 11 May 2014 11: 08
    +6
    The junta will not only lose two budget-forming areas, the IMF will also revise its program to allocate funds.

    And then they don’t even see NATO membership at all like their ears — countries that have territorial disputes with neighbors will not accept it.
  • mnbv199
    mnbv199 11 May 2014 11: 09
    +1
    http://forum.dnestra.com/uploads/images/00/10/68/2014/05/10/8ca6a9.jpg
  • boozer
    boozer 11 May 2014 11: 09
    +3
    A referendum is the political will of the people of the Southeast and proof that there is a different point of view on the future of Ukraine, different from the Kiev junta. But this point of view must be defended with weapons in hand, how unfortunate! The multimillion-dollar opinion of Ukrainian citizens cannot be hidden from the world community! Actually, this is European democracy!
  • sergio6769
    sergio6769 11 May 2014 11: 13
    +16
    The Romanian Ministry of Foreign Affairs demanded clarifications from the Russian Foreign Ministry regarding the statements of the Special Representative of the President of the Russian Federation for Transnistria, Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin to Bucharest.

    A statement published on Saturday on the website of the Romanian Foreign Ministry said Bucharest was serious about Rogozin’s remarks that next time he would fly on a TU-160 bomber, Interfax reported.
    1. Arkan
      Arkan 11 May 2014 12: 58
      +5
      Romanians and this is enough, sent, for clarification.
      1. Oprychnik
        Oprychnik 11 May 2014 14: 51
        +2
        LIKE THEM VISUALIZATION, BUT MORE BETTER - MATERIALIZATION IS REQUIRED. MAY BE SATISFACED WITH A TERM PLEASE? SO SOME PERFORMANCE WILL BE.
        1. tehnoluks
          tehnoluks 11 May 2014 21: 04
          +4
          Donald Cook from SU-24 got a shit ... But what, are the Romanians cooler or something - do you need explanations for the Tu-160? My grandfather told me how their tailed tail, in the process, their sadness has been eating since. Complex, so to speak. Well, we can only be proud of our complexes - S-300, S-400, Poplar, Point, Iskander ... Enough for everyone ... to explain.
          1. fyvaprold
            fyvaprold 11 May 2014 21: 54
            +1
            What they should be afraid of, they have nothing to bomb for a long time, thanks to the EU.
    2. oldy
      oldy 11 May 2014 15: 37
      +2
      This once again proves the awn of the Romanians (and Moldova I apologize) do not understand the jokes- :))))
      However, according to the classic "Every joke has some truth"!
    3. nizrum
      nizrum 11 May 2014 16: 41
      +1
      Why explain? This is to make non-stop flights fellow
      And then all sorts of airspace overlap ... and you fly on it with any jacks lol