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The analytical program "However," with Mikhail Leontyev 06 May 2014

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Nowhere and never have elections been a means of ending the civil war. Civil war is always the result of a colossal split in society. And only negotiations, agreements, compromises can prevent it. And not an election.

“The main goal for France is to ensure the holding of presidential elections in Ukraine on 25 in May,” said French President Francois Hollande. “If they do not happen, chaos and danger of civil war will arise.”

The brutality organized by the Kiev authorities in Odessa does not bring the civil war closer. A massive punitive operation in the Donbas does not bring a civil war. It does not matter what the president of the country says, whose 86% considers him, to say the least, an eccentric - it is important that this is the official position of the United States and the European Union. Given that the Kiev regime's civil war, which had arisen and existed solely by their will, had already begun a civil war.

The day before, in the area of ​​Slavyansk, blocked by a 15-strong military force, during a full-scale battle using heavy armored vehicles and aviationBoth sides suffered heavy casualties killed and wounded. There are numerous casualties among the civilian population. During the battle, two helicopters were shot down by self-defense forces. No objectives of the operation have been achieved. Punitive troops are concentrated for a new attack in the area of ​​the village of Semenovka near Kramatorsk.

S. Poltorak: "We are dealing with a well-armed and organized adversary, who are armed with grenade launchers, machine guns, mortars. People are well-trained, far from Slavic nationality, including."

Avakov: "Tell me directly: there are Chechens."

Finally! More direct - the Arabs! And Slavyansk is inhabited by Afghans. I saw it with my own eyes ... The fact is that these Nazi geeks are continuously lying, hiding the number of victims of their Odessa atrocities. They lie about their combat losses, diminishing them by an order of magnitude. They throw their wounded, shoot at their backs. The fact is that they are professional provocateurs. And no matter what, except for provocations, they are not suitable.

B. Obama: "Russian leaders should know that if they continue to destabilize Ukraine and interfere with the holding of presidential elections this month, we will quickly move on to further steps."

F. Hollande: "The most important goal is to ensure that in Ukraine a president is chosen who will be perceived by the entire population as legitimate."

Russian leaders really have nothing to worry about. May 25 elections will take place, even if they come to some militants Maidan, as it was during the February coup. And the president elected on them will be in the eyes of all kinds of Holland and Obama even more legitimate than the current Turchynov. And the civil war in Ukraine, to their great amazement, will continue incrementally. You can say, war is war, but elections are on schedule.
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  1. Tatarus
    Tatarus 9 May 2014 07: 11
    -79%
    The mathematical program is ridiculous. Correct a mistake.
    1. platitsyn70
      platitsyn70 9 May 2014 07: 51
      +31
      it doesn’t smell like peace, there will be war, and after May 11th everything will just begin, it seems to me that the militia will go on the offensive, eastern military units will join the South-East.
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      2. armageddon
        armageddon 9 May 2014 08: 21
        +29
        what a peace with the Nazis already made ENOUGH !!!
        1. 1812 1945
          1812 1945 9 May 2014 10: 57
          +13
          Quote: Armagedon
          what a peace with the Nazis already made ENOUGH !!!

          The world will be when, from the side of the pind .. Soviet junta, there will NOT be a single living signatory !!!
          1. S_mirnov
            S_mirnov 9 May 2014 12: 05
            -41%
            "
            Nowhere and never have any elections been a means of ending the civil war. Civil war is always the result of a colossal division of society. And only negotiations, agreements, compromise can prevent it. And by no means elections. "
            The level of domestic journalism is below the plinth! This is generally a complete loss of Bosko!
            I hadn’t considered Michael smart before, but now ...
            "Civil war is always the result of a colossal division of society." - where is the civil war in Ukraine? Is this 1% of those who came to mobilization points by order of the junta - "a colossal split in society"?
            This 1% is a junta that holds power only due to interference in NATO’s Ukrainian affairs.
            Eliminate the intervention of foreign states in the internal affairs of Ukraine (block financial flows) and the people will restore order! And just through the elections! Because the people in Ukraine are normal!
            And if the Russian Federation can do this, then it needs to be done. And if you can’t do it ...
            Well then, all that remains is to listen to the Leontiefs and to smear the snot, that the elections do not solve anything. fool
            Elections do not solve anything only in fascist states where the people are eliminated from ruling the country. Ukrainian fascists are not a state at all, but a staggering puppet.
            1. EvilLion
              EvilLion 9 May 2014 12: 40
              +13
              No, everything is right, a compromise, for example, when when the New Russia dumps, and in the remaining territory, any kind of election.
            2. Parvulus
              Parvulus 9 May 2014 13: 44
              +13
              This is exactly the case: "... when it doesn't matter how they vote, it matters how they count ...". Who are the accountants?
            3. tantalum
              tantalum 9 May 2014 14: 48
              +26
              Well, of course you know better from Tula what kind of people in Ukraine and in general it is exactly the same in the SE and in Western women and in Kiev itself. You see every day of them all on the street, you communicate. And in general, only a couple of thousand bastards muzzled the whole country and 40 million are all good as one. And explain at the same time what to call a state in which people are burned alive, and a huge number of two-legged coves are happy about this. If this is not a fascist state, then explain what fascism is in your understanding? But at the same time explain if the Ukrainian people are NOT eliminated from government, then it means that this people wants to kill everyone who does not adhere to their point of view or is eliminated and hold elections honestly there is no way during the civil war?
              1. S_mirnov
                S_mirnov 9 May 2014 18: 28
                -6
                Quote: Tantal
                .You see every day you see them all on the street, communicate

                Not every day, but I communicate. Normal people. Or was I just lucky?
                Quote: Tantal
                And explain at the same time what to call a state in which people are burned alive, and a huge number of two-legged coves are happy about this

                This is where you saw a huge amount? On the Maidan? So, scum and fools were brought from all over the country and brought from neighboring countries.
                Quote: Tantal
                But at the same time explain if the Ukrainian people are NOT eliminated from government, then it means that this people wants to kill everyone who does not adhere to their point of view or is eliminated and hold elections honestly there is no way during the civil war?

                Naturally, the people are removed from power, but the junta that seized power is not at all state power, these are gangs fueled from abroad. And before the election it is necessary to interrupt this feed. Further, these formations will starve to death and scatter like Popandopal in different directions.
                1. tantalum
                  tantalum 9 May 2014 18: 57
                  +9
                  Quote: S_mirnov
                  Elections do not solve anything only in fascist states where the people are eliminated from ruling the country.

                  Quote: S_mirnov
                  Naturally, the people are removed from power, but the junta that seized power is not at all state power, these are gangs fueled from abroad.

                  You contradict yourself. Decide already
                  I don’t know if you were lucky only with normal ones or not, but for example I have a lot of relatives there and I know from them and not from the media and normal acquaintances the whole spectrum of moods. By my family I know you understand!
                  1. Anper
                    Anper 9 May 2014 20: 44
                    +16
                    Quote: Tantal
                    I don’t know if you were lucky on normal ones or not

                    From Rivne. For all the time of the Maidan, the number of abnormal has increased significantly.
                    EXAMPLE No. 1. A classmate, by training, is a navigator of a long-distance sailing, a quite successful private entrepreneur, before that he was even an too adequate person:
                    November - December - Well, now we will join the EU, and we will be happy.
                    January - February - Get bloody Yanukovych.
                    April - well, it would be necessary to choose some kind of Youth Council (?) In the leadership. And Russia should be burned out to the Far East. There on the Internet is the prophecy of one Uniate - they (Russia) will not last three weeks.
                    May (today at the meeting) - we have 500 kilotons (what?), And this is what we’ll do around Russia (how?).
                    EXAMPLE No. 2. A friend (originally from these places) called from Norilsk today, congratulated on the holiday, said that she had a fight with her mother (a teacher who survived the war, who also lives here), because her mother blamed Russia (and, accordingly, her daughter) for that fascist Russia has betrayed the interests of all front-line soldiers, the entire generation. Why did your grandfather die near Leningrad?
                    FROM FEBRUARY MONTH I ONLY LISTEN - I DO NOT ENTER THE TALKS.
                    1. Michael_59
                      Michael_59 9 May 2014 23: 24
                      +6
                      Quote: Anper
                      For all the time of the Maidan, the number of abnormal increased at times


                      Maybe they are irradiated with what?
                2. family tree
                  family tree 10 May 2014 01: 45
                  +4
                  Quote: S_mirnov
                  Not every day, but I communicate. Normal people. Or was I just lucky?

                  Lucky, or wanted to be lucky. Normal people, worked nearby, talked normally until the work was over, and not noted. Damn, I have never seen such a blizzard on the territory of the Arkhangelsk region, although I lived there for fifty-two years, and taking into account what kind of international is here ... these shots are completely frostbitten. And it was, before the Maidan.
            4. Cherdak
              Cherdak 9 May 2014 15: 09
              +5
              Quote: S_mirnov
              Is this 1% of those who came to mobilization points by order of the junta - "a colossal split in society"?


              It's just that it all starts.

              Gavrilo The principle that soaked Franz and Sofia did not expect such consequences either sad
            5. sv68
              sv68 9 May 2014 17: 30
              +8
              s mirn and what do you think is happening on ukroin if not a civil war is still not in the most active phase but alas, it is only a matter of time? The Kiev elections are just an attempt to imitate the existence of laws and legitimate authorities on ukroin
            6. Igool
              Igool 9 May 2014 21: 23
              +3
              Leontiev, it seems to me, did not mean the elections in general, but the presidential elections scheduled for May 25. This, in my opinion, is obvious. It is these elections that really do not decide anything in Ukrainian society, because There are many priority issues that have not been resolved so far. How do you imagine these elections if a natural war is going on in SE? And the civil war is precisely because issues that could be resolved peacefully, the junta began to be resolved precisely through the armed suppression of the population of SE.
            7. kreid2
              kreid2 10 May 2014 02: 51
              0
              Unfortunately, in conversations with Kiev relatives this is so.
              They consider:
              - Putin quietly took Crimea and made a fake referendum;
              - Russian troops entered the east.
              Encouraging. that they would have spoken well, and he would quietly chop us off. got these Kiev authorities
            8. vvvvv
              vvvvv 10 May 2014 05: 12
              0
              For what the minutes, I did not understand ?! I see criticism of Hollande and M. Leontyev. And after all, in the case.
              Or did the minuscars join the Kiev propaganda and want to morally support its significance (the Kiev junta), and the significance of anti-Russian sentiments ?! Or just misunderstood ?! I think it is necessary to say more broadly and everywhere on the contrary that Ukrainians in their mass for Russia and the Kiev junta are just a bunch of bandits imposing force and propaganda. I understood this point, even if it’s not quite so.
            9. Free Island
              Free Island 10 May 2014 06: 48
              +2
              Yesterday, on May 9, on a holy day, scumbags, law enforcement officers and Kiev cops shot a peaceful parade in Mariupol. Is this not a civil war? What is the difference that as you noticed there is only 1% dolbo..ov? well, everything is correct - 1% of the right-wing security men, 10% of the militia - AND ALL THE OTHER POPULATION EATING Lard with a BURNER AND DO NOT INTERVENE ANYWHERE! this is the civil war, when the majority of the population stupidly scored for everything, and one miserable percentage of law enforcement officers of the Turchynov and Yatsenyuhi write the country's history.
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        3. sssss018
          sssss018 9 May 2014 11: 59
          +10
          Yes, what Nazis, this herd without clan and tribe, the trap was not when it was not sovereign, under whom they just did not lie, now they have seized power!
        4. Mih
          Mih 10 May 2014 01: 25
          +1
          I consider it my duty to kill everyone who wears a trident. Psaki are ssaki.
        5. nikolaev
          nikolaev 10 May 2014 06: 33
          0
          http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/centerkor_ua/45665175/19915/19915_900.png
      3. Kars
        Kars 9 May 2014 14: 17
        +12
        Now there are street battles in Mariupol. The punitive battalion of the Dnieper of Kolomoisky is shooting at everything, the police of Mariupol are trying to beat off at the police department.
        1. Dezinto
          Dezinto 9 May 2014 14: 48
          +4
          The radio on YouTube - "Donbass is preparing for an assault" - was turned off ... for a reason ..
        2. avia1991
          avia1991 9 May 2014 19: 35
          +7
          Judging by the reports, there are no street battles as such .. I'm just trying to understand why in the big city of Mariupol a handful of militias and militiamen who have found the courage to openly oppose the regime are opposed to punishers, while the rest, at best, "stand up like a human shield"? TO WHOM AND WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO PROVE ?! The Natsiks were spitting on the "human shield" - and they would pass over you without thinking too much! "Molotov cocktails" not made of anything? Why do armored vehicles move freely where they want? Why doesn't it burn - everything that broke into the city ?!
          Yes, yes - it’s easy to reason, sitting on the couch .. It’s just somehow strange to see HOW exactly the databases are being conducted: Natsik came where they wanted, arrested the militias, and left just as calmly. And the people loudly protest! .. SO YOU DO NOT HEAR.
        3. Jogan-xnumx
          Jogan-xnumx 10 May 2014 00: 31
          +1
          Kars, Happy Victory Day !!!
          By the way, are you still not sick of the Galician-Petlyurovsky yellow-footed footcloth, which is next to your nickname?
      4. kuzia-roker
        kuzia-roker 9 May 2014 17: 03
        +3
        it seems to me that on May 11, during the referendum, a full-scale offensive of Westerners will begin with the support of sabotage detachments of maydanut ueb * s in the form of civilians or in the form of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation for provocation and terrorist attacks
    2. Name
      Name 9 May 2014 08: 04
      +13
      And what didn’t please this time ... The GDP expressed in the form of a request to Donetsk and Lipetsk, BUT TO KIEV ORIGINALLY, because everything is interconnected:
      - termination of punitive;
      - Punishment of REAL GUILTY 2 MAY ODESSA;
      -the beginning of negotiations;
      - payment of debts for consumed (recognized by the EU);
      - continuation of the construction of the South Stream. hi
      1. Sunjar
        Sunjar 9 May 2014 08: 19
        +29
        Quote: name
        And what didn’t please this time ...


        Yes, these are all sorts of defeatist traitors who pretend to be patriots. Give them no bread from the authorities and basically personally accuse Putin of surrendering positions on any issues. This is despite the fact that they do not see anything further than their own penis or boobs, and they do not understand anything in strategy at all. And so: "Oh, Putin asked not to hold a referendum - he betrayed Russia, he surrendered the entire South-East. The truncate is gone, tomorrow they are shooting Gibbs!"

        Well, he proposed to postpone the referendum, so they do not postpone it. They themselves are happy to play along, that, look, neither Russia nor Putin decides for us, we decide everything ourselves. From a diplomatic point of view, the move is correct. And the fact that Putin is a skillful and cunning diplomat and strategist has already convinced the whole world, but this is not to be understood by underpatriots.
        1. sergey261180
          sergey261180 9 May 2014 09: 16
          -50%
          Quote: Sunjar
          This is despite the fact that they do not see anything further than their own member or boobs, but they don’t understand anything at all in the strategy.

          What is there to understand? The GDP clearly said - Crimea was annexed; we won’t get to the rest of Ukraine. And the fact that there the naive Slavs and Kramatorsk rebelled there thinking that they too would be annexed are their problems. Everything has long been divided between the oligarchs.
          1. sir.jonn
            sir.jonn 9 May 2014 09: 54
            +18
            Quote: sergey261180
            What is there to understand? The GDP clearly said - Crimea was annexed; we won’t get to the rest of Ukraine. And the fact that there the naive Slavs and Kramatorsk rebelled there thinking that they too would be annexed are their problems. Everything has been divided between oligarchs for a long time

            GDP per oligarchs us p @ t, has been proven more than once. As for the Southeast, I personally heard about not striving for open armed intervention, which does not at all preclude its possibility and moreover does not call into question the continued support of federalization supporters.
            1. sergey261180
              sergey261180 9 May 2014 10: 08
              -15%
              Quote: sir.jonn
              GDP per oligarchs us p @ t, has been proven more than once. As for the Southeast, I personally heard about not striving for open armed intervention, which does not at all preclude its possibility and moreover does not call into question the continued support of federalization supporters.

              And then what is he waiting for? Is it not clear that the rink of extermination of Russians has been launched and the next in line Russia? The only chance is to counterattack. And this must be done quickly, until the Zapadentsy mobilized and deployed troops. The Wahhabis are already pulling up from Saudi Arabia. They will slaughter Russians as in Syria with whole villages and cities. The only chance to avoid this is to urgently send troops to left-bank Ukraine.
              1. sir.jonn
                sir.jonn 9 May 2014 12: 31
                +16
                Quote: sergey261180
                And then what is he waiting for? Is it not clear that the rink of extermination of Russians has been launched and the next in line Russia? The only chance is to counterattack. And this must be done quickly, until the Zapadentsy mobilized and deployed troops. The Wahhabis are already pulling up from Saudi Arabia. They will slaughter Russians as in Syria with whole villages and cities. The only chance to avoid this is to urgently send troops to left-bank Ukraine.

                Like you Sergey, I also expect decisive action on the part of GDP. But we are not experts in the theory of behind-the-scenes warfare and should not announce verdicts in events whose finale is not yet known to us. Let's hope for the grand master skills of the GDP and his team in which he already allowed us to be convinced.
                1. sleepy
                  sleepy 9 May 2014 19: 02
                  +2
                  Quote: sir.jonn
                  "Let's hope for the grandmaster abilities of VVP and his team, which he has already allowed us to be convinced of."


                  In chess there is a term "intermediate move" which is used
                  so that the enemy himself drove himself into the zungzwang.

                  Intermediate move - chess move, non-obvious move, intermediate
                  and quiet moves, counterattacks, non-standard tactical defense techniques not foreseen in the basic idea of ​​a forced variant or combination.
                  Intermediate move can: violate preliminary calculations,
                  change the planned course of events on the chessboard.

                  Zugzwang (German: Zugzwang “forced to move”) -
                  chess position in which any player’s move leads
                  to the deterioration of his position.

                  Quote: anfil
                  "The militia captured two Ukrainian Grad anti-aircraft missile systems, Life News reports."


                  I wonder if the Grad ammunition and related equipment were captured for re-equipment. Then it would make sense to capture.
                  And so it would be easier to blow up on the spot.
                  1. sir.jonn
                    sir.jonn 9 May 2014 20: 01
                    0
                    Quote: sleepy
                    In chess there is a term "intermediate move" which is used
                    so that the enemy himself drove himself into the zungzwang.

                    Thank you Sergei for an interesting explanation of the strategy of the "game of death", probably in the comments regarding politics, it is chess terms that are more successful.
                  2. Igool
                    Igool 9 May 2014 21: 30
                    0
                    These are not installations, but ammunition for them. Here's the link

                    http://lifenews.ru/news/132930
              2. mira.36
                mira.36 9 May 2014 13: 47
                +9
                Don’t hysteria. Like women shouted. Can you wind something up in your head? Would you like to wave your wings? You’ve got the flag. Without you, the GDP knows, everything has been calculated for a long time.
              3. anfil
                anfil 9 May 2014 17: 53
                +4
                Sorry, I forgot to tell you what is waiting.

                And on the spot the guys themselves are not a miss, they give the fascists the heat:
                Militias captured two Grad installations
                In the Luhansk region, militia captured two Ukrainian Grad anti-aircraft missile systems, reports Life News.
                Ukrainian Major Roman Kotiy was also captured. The fate of the rest of the people who accompanied the installation is not specified.
                According to the captured major, the Grad was sent to the village of Markovka. He was not dedicated to future plans, but, according to the militias, they intercepted the radio communications of the Ukrainian militaryaccording to which Grad was planned to be used soon.
                Ukraine continues to lose heavy equipment. So in Mariupol the militia captured the tank today. But during the battle for this city, dozens of people were injured, there are dead. According to official figures, 3 people died in one day in Mariupol, another 25 were injured.
                1. sir.jonn
                  sir.jonn 9 May 2014 18: 43
                  +4
                  Quote: anfil
                  Grad anti-aircraft missile launchers

                  Anti-aircraft missile launchers "Grad" belay Oh, these media!
                  Good luck militias and with our Victory Day!
                  1. Cynic
                    Cynic 9 May 2014 19: 05
                    +2
                    Quote: sir.jonn
                    Anti-aircraft missile launchers "Grad"

                    Well, if any plane is in the range of the Grad shells ...
                    It’s not enough for him!
                    (well, they didn’t catch that З it's volley, think wink )
                    There already RPGs as MANPADS use and quite successfully.
                    wink
                    1. sir.jonn
                      sir.jonn 9 May 2014 19: 40
                      +1
                      Quote: Cynic
                      Well, they didn’t catch up, that Z is volley, think

                      After listening to the news reports, at the beginning of the Bendery operation in Sloviansk, he believed that the militia got it in different ways: an armored personnel carrier; BMP; BMD; tanks and, moreover, in an incomprehensible number of units. Correspondents whose bread reports from the "Hot Fields" would like to wish more detailed knowledge about "The land they plow." Please do not judge my comment harshly, dear war correspondents, in many ways I am not worthy to judge your dangerous trade.
              4. Mih
                Mih 10 May 2014 01: 27
                0
                I consider it my duty to kill everyone who wears a trident. Psaki are ssaki.
            2. cosmos111
              cosmos111 9 May 2014 10: 10
              +12
              The main people of the Southeast, continues to fight !!!
              and VICTORY DAY, OVER the junta MUST COME !!!!
            3. avia1991
              avia1991 9 May 2014 19: 48
              0
              Quote: sir.jonn
              GDP per oligarchs us p @ t, has been proven more than once.

              There are not many examples of this .. By the way, your statement is from the category of blue dreams. And it's not the President, it's History, which has convincingly proved, more than once and not twice, that the world is ruled by supercapital, and not superpowers. And Russia is no exception, because cannot exist autonomously for now, and it is unlikely that they will allow us.
              1. sir.jonn
                sir.jonn 9 May 2014 20: 31
                0
                Quote: avia1991
                Quote: sir.jonn
                GDP per oligarchs us p @ t, has been proven more than once.

                There are not many examples of this ..

                Yes, more than in any of our beloved democratic powers. Anyway, with whom to compare? Just for God's sake don't make me look for examples and facts
                Quote: avia1991
                that the world is ruled by supercapital, not superpowers

                The USSR and the entire former social bloc are a clear example contrary to your statement. But the Western oligarchy played a significant role in the success of the Soviet Union, and I cannot oppose anything to this.
          2. _my opinion
            _my opinion 9 May 2014 15: 14
            +4
            "One shouldn't give a damn about the norms of international law, because this is the only thing that is holding humanity from large-scale military conflicts today. The remnants of international law, our" geopolitical friends "are just going to dismantle. More recently, if you remember, they bombed states without any whatever the UN resolutions. Today they manage to keep them from this, at least in Syria. But let's remember our hockey match with the Americans at the Sochi Olympics. The goalkeeper pushed back the gate a little - a goal was scored, but the referee did not count it. That is, the main one in the game - a judge, and the West takes this role for itself all the time. They will evaluate the actions. Therefore, in a complex geopolitical game, we must not forget that the West is both a rival and a judge. The refereeing will always not be in our favor. Therefore, we must be extremely careful. But experience tells us: if we do something in our interests, the West will always be against it. " N. Starikov
            and I agree with him.
          3. aleks700
            aleks700 9 May 2014 16: 59
            +1
            Bitter, but true.
          4. ver_
            ver_ 9 May 2014 17: 21
            0
            The boa constrictes the alligator ... slowly, although it has good teeth and is almost commensurate in size ... and ... it successfully digests it ... by the way, and the tiger too ... The moral of this fable is this - hurry - you make people laugh ...
          5. sv68
            sv68 9 May 2014 17: 36
            +1
            sergei261180-PEOPLE JUST DO NOT WANT TO LIVE BY THE FASCISS'S INSTRUCTION AND TAKE THE ANTI-PEOPLE'S ASSEMBLY WITH EASY SENDERS OF PADS TO KILL PEACEFUL PEOPLE, NOT HOW YOU DECIDED TO JOIN ORIGIN
            1. sergey261180
              sergey261180 9 May 2014 18: 01
              +2
              Quote: sv68
              PEOPLE JUST DO NOT WANT TO LIVE UNDER THE FASCISS 'INSTRUCTION AND TAKE ANTI-PEOPLE'S ASSEMBLY WITH EASY SENDING PADDLES TO KILL PEOPLE PEOPLE, AND NOT HOW YOU DECIDED TO JOIN RUSSIA

              That's the tragedy that people’s opinion is garbage. And the desire to join Russia is the only chance to be saved. Only the authorities apparently do not need this.
              1. Cynic
                Cynic 9 May 2014 19: 09
                +2
                Quote: sergey261180
                Only the authorities apparently do not need this.

                This is exactly what the authorities need!
                Ossetia survived the West, as a type of sovereign state, and will survive the DNI.
        2. avia1991
          avia1991 9 May 2014 19: 41
          0
          God grant that everything is so. "Under-patriots" are apparently those who think DIFFERENT than you .. only "repatriotism", sir, is no less harmful. Anyone can be wrong, and the locksmith - and the President. Only the consequences of these errors differ by several orders of magnitude! And therefore - let us wish the President not to be mistaken, and we will not imagine ourselves to be great all-knowing strategists.
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      3. mamont5
        mamont5 9 May 2014 10: 11
        +5
        Quote: name
        - payment of debts for consumed (recognized by the EU);


        That's just Ukraine does not recognize. More precisely, there is no money and is not expected. Even the first tranche of the IMF is not enough.
        1. Name
          Name 9 May 2014 10: 24
          +4
          Quote: mamont5
          That's just Ukraine does not recognize. Or rather there is no money

          So already for .... that same:Since June 2014, Russia has been introducing a prepayment regime for gas supplies for Ukraine, the head of the Ministry of Energy, Alexander Novak, told reporters.- but remember that the EU recognized Ukraine’s debts ... and now, however, manure has been collected ... Russia to be hauled up again ... Pardon the US ... recourse
        2. The point
          The point 9 May 2014 14: 26
          +1
          Quote: mamont5
          Even the first tranche of the IMF is not enough.

          just gave a little
      4. 1812 1945
        1812 1945 9 May 2014 15: 40
        +4
        Quote: name
        And what didn’t please this time ... The GDP expressed in the form of a request to Donetsk and Lipetsk, BUT TO KIEV ORIGINALLY, because everything is interconnected:
        - termination of punitive;
        - Punishment of REAL GUILTY 2 MAY ODESSA;
        -the beginning of negotiations;
        - payment of debts for consumed (recognized by the EU);
        - continuation of the construction of the South Stream. hi

        The main thing is not what Putin says for gay-speaking hollow-bones singing under a pind .. Soviet pipe, but what does ... Let's believe ...
        1. 1812 1945
          1812 1945 9 May 2014 17: 43
          +2
          "The NATO Secretary General considers Putin's visit to Crimea 'inappropriate." - All people on planet Earth, not in NATO countries (and many in NATO countries) consider the very fact of the birth of the NATO Secretary General and the existence of NATO as a misunderstanding! .................. .................................................. ...

          .
          ............ "The Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine has expressed a strong protest in connection with the visit of the President of the Russian Federation Vladimir Putin to Crimea on May 9, which was not coordinated with Ukraine." - An insult to the Diplomatic Corps - to call the Ministry of Foreign Affairs a bunch of bastards - half-educated people with a bad pronunciation (whatever language they speak) appointed by the junta to perform such duties. Diplomats have not been there all 23 years of "independence"! It's all about who Putin and Lavrov have to deal with ..................................... .............................. PS As for the diplomats, I am not judging from anyone's words, but I have watched this audience for more than one year .............
      5. isidorenko4145
        isidorenko4145 9 May 2014 23: 02
        0
        so in step 2, everything will have to end for the junta. Everything is logical that they did not support.
      6. DNR
        DNR 9 May 2014 23: 38
        +2
        GDP did everything right by asking to postpone the referendum.
        I think there was no doubt in the GDP that the referendum would not be canceled. But the fact that the leadership of the DPR did not cancel the referendum at the request of Russia showed the world that the DPR makes decisions on its own, without any indication. Thus, knocking out a few more trump cards from the junta on the eve of the referendum itself.
        Now, if it is successful, nothing will prevent it from being recognized, because "they asked to postpone it, but they themselves decided to hold a referendum. And we respect the people's choice" ...
    3. lex12a
      lex12a 9 May 2014 14: 03
      -1
      a mistake in your brain, it seems. and it’s very difficult to fix it ...
    4. kuzia-roker
      kuzia-roker 9 May 2014 17: 14
      +3
      French razier * ashili- Germans razhe * ashil mattresses raz * ashim if we continue to live * will learn to teach !!! (* B)
    5. Tatarus
      Tatarus 10 May 2014 06: 04
      +1
      When the article was just posted there was a typo. In vain I pointed out a mistake. Here is an example of how harmful it is to consider yourself smarter than the rest.
      1. bomg.77
        bomg.77 10 May 2014 06: 18
        +1
        My father always said, "It's hard to live when you know a lot." In my youth, I did not understand this, but now I do not fully understand it, but I also feel discomfort from close people!
        1. Tatarus
          Tatarus 10 May 2014 08: 30
          +1
          We need to hold on to the mind.
          One who is more reasonable to win.
  2. Alexey N
    Alexey N 9 May 2014 07: 14
    +27
    Judging only by the organized, friendly work of the Western media, the situation in Ukraine is a new crusade of the West against Russia. Vile Western "civilization"! And they have been preparing for more than one year ... And they chose the year of the Olympiad.
    1. Baikal
      Baikal 9 May 2014 07: 47
      +16
      In general, only for the battered Olympics would they snitch at the snout.
      We are waiting for the Olipiad in the United States and the referendum in Mesica.
      1. Al_lexx
        Al_lexx 9 May 2014 09: 19
        +13
        Better in Panama. Let them swim around Cape Horn.

        And at the expense of their borders, because Texas is a native Mexican territory. It is there that they hold a referendum on joining Mexico. wink
        1. Penzyac
          Penzyac 9 May 2014 10: 14
          +6
          Quote: Al_lexx
          Better in Panama. Let them swim around Cape Horn.

          And at the expense of their borders, because Texas is a native Mexican territory. It is there that they hold a referendum on joining Mexico. wink

          Not only Texas, but also Southern California and a number of southern territories. It is not necessary to immediately join Mexico, for a start, the withdrawal of Hispanic states from the United States.
          The Yankees will not immediately become world hegemony.
          1. koshh
            koshh 9 May 2014 11: 14
            +7
            Quote: PENZYAC
            but also Southern California and a number of southern territories


            Sorry, but these territories were developed by RUSSIAN settlers who lived in peace and friendship with the local population, as well as in Alaska.
            1. Al_lexx
              Al_lexx 9 May 2014 11: 54
              +3
              Quote: koshh
              Quote: PENZYAC
              but also Southern California and a number of southern territories


              Sorry, but these territories were developed by RUSSIAN settlers who lived in peace and friendship with the local population, as well as in Alaska.

              This is exactly what I meant by omitting them from the list. Well, that is, whatever they dig to us.
              Relatively speaking, they are running into Texas, then it will be possible to talk about everything else.
              1. Al_lexx
                Al_lexx 10 May 2014 00: 42
                0
                Although, of course nonsense.
                On the loop.
          2. Sid.74
            Sid.74 9 May 2014 11: 25
            +10
            Quote: PENZYAC
            Not only Texas, but also Southern California and a number of southern territories.


            California is the territory of Alaska's supply! Do not forget this comrade !!! And the flag of California must be seen, it is not so simple !!! laughing
            1. Vitaly Anisimov
              Vitaly Anisimov 9 May 2014 14: 59
              +5
              Quote: Sid.74
              Quote: PENZYAC
              Not only Texas, but also Southern California and a number of southern territories.


              California is the territory of Alaska's supply! Do not forget this comrade !!! And the flag of California must be seen, it is not so simple !!! laughing

              A bear walking after hibernation to his homeland ... (and very evil ..) bully Everything can be ...)))
              1. andj61
                andj61 9 May 2014 18: 02
                +3
                Beautiful, of course, but historically the south of the USA fought with the north. South called KSA - Confederate States of America.
                Confederation ideas in the South are still popular.

                1. Cynic
                  Cynic 9 May 2014 19: 16
                  +3
                  Quote: andj61
                  but historically the south of the USA fought with the north.

                  Historically, the North fought with the South, since the South already got these consumers for free of their raw materials and he decided to live separately.
                  The result is known.
  3. dmitrij.blyuz
    dmitrij.blyuz 9 May 2014 07: 27
    +10
    Mikhailo burns, as usual. Does Oland fit in with what topic? Does she want to earn money by gruel? What kind of nonsense do they get into our territory of influence. Or do they feel their immediate outcome?
    1. pensioner
      pensioner 9 May 2014 10: 13
      +6
      Quote: dmitrij.blyuz
      Oland here what topic fits in?

      Classical: the performer of the fifth wheel in a cart, a symbol of the alienness and worthlessness of the EU as a peacemaker in Ukraine, the apotheosis of "tolerance", which in Ukraine results in indulging in the revival of fascism. A kind of soft and light-faced ghoul. I think so.
      Happy holiday to you and all your relatives Dima!
      1. dmitrij.blyuz
        dmitrij.blyuz 10 May 2014 06: 33
        0
        Happy holiday to you and all your relativesYura! And you With Victory!
    2. Penzyac
      Penzyac 9 May 2014 10: 18
      +5
      Quote: dmitrij.blyuz
      Michael burns ... What the hell do they climb into our territory of influence. Or feel their immediate outcome?

      Ukraine is not the territory of our influence, but the original Russian land. Ukraine is our Kosovo field.
    3. asar
      asar 9 May 2014 11: 24
      +3
      Oland, the patron saint of sexual minorities, obviously climbed not his gates! Sverbet, you bastard!
  4. Tatarus
    Tatarus 9 May 2014 07: 30
    +7
    Quote: Alexey N
    new crusade of the west to Russia


    And it will end traditionally. Stars for the Crusaders.
    1. pts-m
      pts-m 9 May 2014 09: 29
      +6
      And it will be a grave for the “crusaders of shit-democrats" -Black Sea! It is correctly said "who comes to us with a sword, will die by the sword!"
  5. Very old
    Very old 9 May 2014 07: 30
    +36
    All members of the forum - with the Victory Day!

    Our all fought, not all returned,
    We remember the Fathers and Grandfathers, we will pass on our memory to generations
    Memory, memory ... They did not die - live in each of us

    People’s Commissar for everyone!
  6. Baikal
    Baikal 9 May 2014 07: 32
    +10
    B. Obama: "Russian leaders should know that if they continue to destabilize Ukraine and interfere with the holding of presidential elections this month, we will quickly move on to further steps."


    I am sure that a lot of people in Ukraine got these politicians. They will later say that the Russians are destabilizing ... Well, yes, the Russians are destabilizing) They are also Russians in Ukraine))
    In general, it is clear that they want to take "further steps" in any case. The reason is not important.
    However, I think that in the end they will sit on the hedgehog.
  7. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 9 May 2014 07: 35
    +45
    It seems to start coming true ... Well, God forbid!
    1. Baikal
      Baikal 9 May 2014 07: 44
      -5
      Guys, I understand that everything is burning in the firebox ... But there are educated people, why all these fortunetellers and other charlatans with crooks. There is no such thing yes
      1. Vitaly Anisimov
        Vitaly Anisimov 9 May 2014 07: 52
        +9
        Quote: Baikal
        Guys, I understand that everything is burning in the firebox ... But there are educated people, why all these fortunetellers and other charlatans with crooks. There is no such thing yes

        I also don’t particularly believe, and yet ..About the strength of spirit and spirituality is very accurately predicted ..
        1. Baikal
          Baikal 9 May 2014 08: 00
          +9
          Questions of fortitude and spirituality are very important for us, but they relate to the sphere of culture and self-awareness.
          If everyone begins to sacredly believe all sorts of psychics on TV - this will be the finish.
          Gentlemen minus - remember the story. The heyday of crooks (mediums, fortune tellers, psychics, alternative specialists, etc. rushers) ALWAYS fall on troubled times and is the result of the decomposition and illiteracy of that part of societywho eats this heresy with pleasure yes

          If you believe in sorcerers and magicians, why are you surprised that in Ukraine the population believes the junta and ukrosmi. You have to start with yourself, dear ones.
          1. 11111mail.ru
            11111mail.ru 9 May 2014 10: 13
            +5
            Quote: Baikal
            Gentlemen minus - remember the story. The heyday of crooks (mediums, fortune tellers, psychics, alternative specialists, etc. rushers)

            I didn’t minus you (yet), but I’ll be teasing; not political officer by the case? We tried a controversial thought on our unsullied consciousness: it doesn't fit, well, thank God! Hating perestroika, inspired by the ideology that it was induced, I personally welcome the opportunity to receive the entire spectrum of information in unfiltered form.
            1. Baikal
              Baikal 9 May 2014 11: 32
              +5
              Plyusanul you (for now) for malice and doubt. I welcome the whole range of information. Information as facts, not grandma's hoots))
              Not a politician even once. And my consciousness is neither better nor worse than yours. I just try to work on it and be guided by sanity, not by elves.
          2. Penzyac
            Penzyac 9 May 2014 11: 12
            +4
            Quote: Baikal
            Questions of fortitude and spirituality are very important for us, but they relate to the sphere of culture and self-awareness.
            If everyone begins to sacredly believe all sorts of psychics on TV - this will be the finish.
            Gentlemen minus - remember the story. The heyday of crooks (mediums, fortune tellers, psychics, alternative specialists, etc. rushers) ALWAYS fall on troubled times and is the result of the decomposition and illiteracy of that part of societywho eats this heresy with pleasure yes

            If you believe in sorcerers and magicians, why are you surprised that in Ukraine the population believes the junta and ukrosmi. You have to start with yourself, dear ones.

            Blind faith is a sign of stupidity, and doubt is the engine of knowledge. Although, only corpses do not believe in anything.
            I want to believe that everything will be fine ...
            1. asar
              asar 9 May 2014 11: 27
              +3
              We all live in hope in Goodness, Justice! This, I hope, is not quackery?
              1. Baikal
                Baikal 9 May 2014 11: 44
                +2
                If you and I will help each other in difficult times, together we won’t give offense to the weak - I think this is Good and all good.
                If I come to you in the bazaar with the goal of fortune-telling on the hand, this is Quackery.
                And if you give me a snout for this - also Justice laughing
            2. Cynic
              Cynic 9 May 2014 19: 30
              0
              Quote: PENZYAC
              I want to believe that everything will be fine ...

              I want to KNOW that everything will be fine.
          3. Cynic
            Cynic 9 May 2014 19: 29
            0
            Quote: Baikal
            If you believe in sorcerers and magicians, why

            May people not believe them! They believe what they said _ That everything will be GOOD!
      2. major071
        major071 9 May 2014 08: 47
        +13
         Baikal
        Guys, I understand that everything is burning in the firebox ... But there are educated people, why all these fortunetellers and other charlatans with crooks. There is no such thing

        You may or may not believe, but the predictions are made by people. And it is within our power to bring the victory of Russia closer — by our actions, in our own words, by our position. Nobody will bring us peace on a silver platter. Only we ourselves can make predictions come true. IMHO.
        1. Baikal
          Baikal 9 May 2014 09: 39
          +5
          Your comment (and not only) is a wonderful example for writing a detailed article on this topic.
          Thank you.
      3. Strezhevchanin
        Strezhevchanin 9 May 2014 09: 39
        +2
        Quote: Baikal
        There is no such

        We were born to make a fairy tale come true, already doing !!!
        1. Baikal
          Baikal 9 May 2014 09: 42
          +3
          Well, you must admit, it's one thing to bring the legendary "March of the Aviators" to life, and another thing is the delirium of another Paraska woman or card sharper Globa laughing
          1. 11111mail.ru
            11111mail.ru 9 May 2014 10: 17
            +3
            Quote: Baikal
            to bring to life the legendary "March of the Aviators"

            I like the lines in this march:
            "Trust us: for every ultimatum
            The air fleet will be able to answer! "
            In military unit # 32937 it was our "drill".
          2. Sid.74
            Sid.74 9 May 2014 11: 42
            +2
            Quote: Baikal
            or card sharper Globa laughing
            Oh, a stone in my garden, well, I kind of said that I posted info about Globa so to laugh! laughing
            I think there is still a lot of inexplicable in our world, maybe science simply did not find an explanation for these “miracles”? After all, I remember the Parisian Academy of Sciences argued that a steam locomotive could not go smooth wheels on smooth rails and arrogantly ridiculed this invention! hi
            And remember Jules Verne! His amazing prediction of the submarine, the landing of a man on the moon! And the fact that about six months before the tragedy, the story described the fate of Titinik with an almost complete coincidence of the number of victims and the unfortunate iceberg! A lot of wonderful things in our world!
            1. Baikal
              Baikal 9 May 2014 12: 00
              +3
              Thank you very interesting comment. wink
              And sorry for the encroachment on the integrity of your garden good
              However - all the predictions you described are mainly related to technological progress and, being in the subject, the main trends are not difficult to predict.
              However, in the future I will definitely try to touch upon this.
              1. Sid.74
                Sid.74 9 May 2014 12: 29
                0
                Quote: Baikal
                And sorry for the encroachment on the integrity of your garden good

                laughing
                Well, as for me, science, faith, metaphysics, philosophy are all closely intertwined!
                I don’t dare say that there is no foresight as a fact! It’s just that any bright facts of foresight foresaw an overwhelming number of myths that it’s impossible to determine where the fiction is and where the fact is! Can everyone see the future, imagine how the technology will develop, I think not! as if he was in the future!hi
            2. ver_
              ver_ 9 May 2014 17: 29
              -1
              Nobody has ever landed on the moon ... besides moon rovers ...
          3. family tree
            family tree 9 May 2014 11: 45
            +3
            Quote: Baikal
            Well, you must admit, it's one thing to bring to life the legendary "March of the Aviators", and another thing is the delirium of another woman Paraska or card sharper Globa laughing

            Achoa ?! If delirium coincides with desire and possibilities, what why not translate? laughing
            1. Baikal
              Baikal 9 May 2014 11: 53
              +3
              The danger of delirium is in erroneous motivation.
              In my humble opinion - you must always know what banner you are carrying yes
      4. Anper
        Anper 9 May 2014 10: 28
        +6
        Quote: Baikal
        There is no such

        I have a very negative attitude to all kinds of psychics. Only about Vanga there is one thought all the time - I remember very well how, some time ago, we laughed at the media, whose roof was blown off: according to Vanga's prediction, a misfortune should have happened - Kursk would go under water. they even looked at the map and figured out which side it could be flooded from. Even looked at the seismic and meteo data. Tied to the NPP. TV plot I even remember how they run around Kursk and ask the residents how they feel about this prediction. Then they successfully forgot for a long time. And then the Kursk went under water.
        1. Baikal
          Baikal 9 May 2014 11: 34
          +3
          +
          Thanks for the comment. In the planned article I will try to touch on this topic.
          1. 11111mail.ru
            11111mail.ru 9 May 2014 12: 29
            +3
            Quote: Baikal
            In the planned article I will try

            Do not forget the case from the XNUMXth century. A.S. Pushkin was predicted by the famous fortuneteller of German origin Alexandra Kirchhoff at that time: “Maybe you will live a long time, but on the 37th year watch out for the white man, the white horse, or the white head. ”
      5. Penzyac
        Penzyac 9 May 2014 10: 45
        +2
        Quote: Baikal
        Guys, I understand that everything is burning in the firebox ... But there are educated people, why all these fortunetellers and other charlatans with crooks. There is no such thing yes

        How old is humanity, and how much is still ahead !!!
        Human science is too young and too little to claim that it already knows everything about human capabilities, as well as much more. So everything can be ...
        1. andrewvlg
          andrewvlg 9 May 2014 12: 43
          +2
          Quote: PENZYAC
          Human science is too young and too little to claim that it already knows everything about human capabilities, as well as much more. So everything can be ...

          No doubt, science does not stand still ...
          But all the charlatans who claimed to be something proved their inconsistency with numerous attempts to "predict", "read the past", etc.
          Charlatan Wanga has already been "pierced" more than once, because of her fame and popularity, idle people had the opportunity to compare her "clairvoyance" with real events in the past.
          Specifically, I personally feel sorry for Wang, because her childhood and youth were extremely difficult. However, even more sorry are the gullible simpletons who were trying to recover from a woman whose husband died of relatively young cirrhosis (alcoholism).
          If a "clairvoyant", and not a clever charlatan, really suddenly appears, he must prove his abilities in the course of the simplest honest experiment. So far modern history does not know such.
          1. Baikal
            Baikal 9 May 2014 12: 53
            0
            So far, recent history does not know such.

            Truly so! Bravo yes
      6. bigELDAK
        bigELDAK 9 May 2014 17: 11
        +1
        + set, let’s stick Pavel Glob here here and will NICE READ COMMENTS OF MILITARY REVIEW. am am
      7. Cynic
        Cynic 9 May 2014 19: 25
        +1
        Quote: Baikal
        There is no such

        In addition to such words, you need to knock on the tree and be sure to spit three times over your left shoulder!
        wink
      8. dmitrij.blyuz
        dmitrij.blyuz 10 May 2014 06: 37
        0
        Guys, I understand that everything is burning in the firebox ...-Something is right, countryman. But you must admit, we do not just believe in it, we know that it should be so, and will be. hi
  8. mig31
    mig31 9 May 2014 07: 38
    +5
    Do not call the Natsik gang, the gang-gang and stay. I believe that NATO is also a gang, so there is no need to rely on justice, it must be won, and what will be done in the Southeast by its people.
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    2. Corsair
      Corsair 9 May 2014 08: 21
      +4
      Quote: mig31
      Do not call the Natsik gang, the gang-gang and stay.


      1. sergey261180
        sergey261180 9 May 2014 09: 26
        +1
        The only problem he has is that his salary is low. They would pay normally, like in the Black Water PMC - they would have reached Moscow without a bazaar.
        1. mamont5
          mamont5 9 May 2014 10: 09
          +7
          Quote: sergey261180
          They would pay normally, like in the Black Water PMC - they would have reached Moscow without a bazaar.


          Let me doubt it. Tortured to reach. Dies on the way.
        2. koshh
          koshh 9 May 2014 11: 21
          +2
          Quote: sergey261180
          They would pay normally, like in the Black Water PMC - they would have reached Moscow without a bazaar.


          M ... yes, maybe not in this life. And most likely not at all.
        3. brelok
          brelok 9 May 2014 12: 57
          +3
          Quote: sergey261180
          The only problem he has is that his salary is low. They would pay normally, like in the Black Water PMC - they would have reached Moscow without a bazaar.

          nobody has won a war for money yet. strange people serve dill in the army - follow the orders of bandits and outright traitors
      2. With Petrovsky
        With Petrovsky 9 May 2014 09: 55
        +5
        This freak only holds back a low salary.
        1. asar
          asar 9 May 2014 11: 29
          +3
          It seems, and not quite sober, "warrior"!
  9. kartalovkolya
    kartalovkolya 9 May 2014 07: 42
    +7
    No need to look for errors and typos, but you need to understand the essence of what is happening! Yes, we have a massive offensive directed primarily against the entire Russian, Slavic world by the darkest forces whose main task has not changed from year to year, from century to century. Since the time of Alexander Nevsky, the West has constantly tested the strength of Russia with the blessing of the Catholic Church. And then and now among the enemies of the people of Ukraine are mercenaries from Europe and from the Anglo-Saxon world! But they won’t wait for our brothers to bow their heads in front of this rabble, as evidenced by the last CSTO meeting. Glory to the people of the South-East of Ukraine! A referendum, which residents of the South-East of Ukraine will never refuse, will soon put everything in its place!
  10. Manul49
    Manul49 9 May 2014 07: 44
    +18
    "Memorial events in Normandy will be dedicated to an extremely important historical event," Carney said. "It reflects the tremendous sacrifice of many countries, including the United States and the Soviet Union, which was an ally in the fight against Nazism during World War II."

    Yeah, Europe fell under the Nazis almost without resistance. The mattresses sat out overseas, and when the USSR was already killing Hitler, they landed,
    b ....!

    They would have landed back in 1946. And now they are screaming about their "sacrifice".
    1. AleksPol
      AleksPol 9 May 2014 09: 01
      +9
      They sacrificed, like rams leading to slaughter. Whereas the Russians fought to the last, sparing no life. HOLIDAY DEAR VETERANS.
      1. asar
        asar 9 May 2014 11: 34
        +4
        And our troops, not sparing themselves, went on the offensive in order to draw off most of the fascists, when the Yankes and others were "stuck" in the "meat grinder" in the Ardennes! For some reason they don’t remember this, u.r.o.d. are forgetful!
        1. Lelek
          Lelek 10 May 2014 00: 31
          +1
          The only wrong decision of our command at the end of the war was to stop on the Elbe and wait for a meeting with the "allies" for almost two days. It seems so to me. stop
      2. Penzyac
        Penzyac 9 May 2014 11: 45
        +2
        Quote: AleksPol
        They sacrificed, like rams leading to slaughter. Whereas the Russians fought to the last, sparing no life. HOLIDAY DEAR VETERANS.

        No need so indiscriminately, they also had all sorts. In concentration camps, not only Soviet people and Jews were killed, but also other Europeans of all nationalities, including Germans. Fascist degenerates destroyed the best representatives of all peoples there.
        WITH A HOLIDAY, DEAR VETERANS ANTIFASCHIS OF ALL COUNTRIES!
    2. 11111mail.ru
      11111mail.ru 9 May 2014 10: 20
      +1
      Quote: Manul49
      And now they are screaming about their "sacrifice".

      Well, well, they sincerely believe that they "gave" Eastern Europe "to Uncle Joe."
      1. Lelek
        Lelek 10 May 2014 00: 38
        +3
        On May 9, in England, at a meeting of our veterans with the veterans of the northern convoys, the British said: "The Russians won the victory, and we only helped them." This statement is worth a lot. comes from the mouths of war veterans who saw dirt, blood and death. soldier
    3. Turkir
      Turkir 9 May 2014 11: 14
      +2
      Are these "winners" American? Or French?
      How many of them?
      Adhered to our Victory.
    4. Penzyac
      Penzyac 9 May 2014 11: 35
      +2
      Quote: Manul49
      ...
      Yeah, Europe fell under the Nazis almost without resistance.
      ...

      So the Nazis do not yet kill them, they do not wreak havoc and destruction, not as in 1936 - 1945.
      The USA and Europe have snickered, and on this basis they now have a dream of reason.
  11. Same lech
    Same lech 9 May 2014 07: 45
    +9
    It is clear that the next henchman of the Kiev junta will be elected on May 25 ... who will be as legitimate as the current junta.
    The rate KYIV is MADE ON WAR and not on peace talks.
    Recently, I see that KIEV has adopted the most dirty methods of warfare (they try to kill using law enforcement officers dressed as militias, they commit crimes and blame everything on popular resistance ... a technique known since 1939 on the Polish border. ... UKRAINIAN GOBELS-TURCHINOV is no better than Hitler's scum-DEATH THEM for killing civilians)
  12. sazhka4
    sazhka4 9 May 2014 07: 49
    +4
    War is war, and lunch is on schedule. I wonder who "feeds". Whom, how, and why? Russians understand .. Do the rest of the brains? Maybe We live in Another World?



















    ... Djqyf djqyjq
  13. Turk
    Turk 9 May 2014 07: 52
    +9
    Quote: Alexey N
    Judging only by the organized, friendly work of the Western media, the situation in Ukraine is a new crusade of the West against Russia. Vile Western "civilization"! And they have been preparing for more than one year ... And they chose the year of the Olympiad.

    +10000. Their media are the smallest in the world.
  14. both s69
    both s69 9 May 2014 07: 53
    +4
    Happy Great, but such a Hard Victory, dear WWII veterans, and participants in this forum! I wish you all health, happiness and all the best in life. We will (at least from time to time) remember in our hearts the names of those people who died in the fields of that War, in the name of the fact that we now live in peace and prosperity. Eternal memory to them! The Kingdom of Heaven and Eternal Peace! .. crying
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    andrei332809 9 May 2014 08: 08
    +1
    [quote "The main goal for France is to ensure the holding of presidential elections in Ukraine on May 25," announced French President Francois Hollande.]

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  1. asar
    asar 9 May 2014 11: 37
    +2
    Let Oland have mercy with his "pink-blue" ones! wassat Nefig climb with his charter in a strange monster! am
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    Penzyac
    Penzyac 9 May 2014 11: 51
    0
    Quote: andrei332809
    [quote "The main goal for France is to ensure the holding of presidential elections in Ukraine on May 25," announced French President Francois Hollande.]

    France lacks DE-Gaulle, all entirely political prostitutes and narcissistic dwarfs.
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    kuzia-roker 9 May 2014 17: 32
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    Quote: andrei332809
    [quote "The main goal for France is to ensure the holding of presidential elections in Ukraine on May 25," announced French President Francois Hollande.]

    while Gerard Depardieu dumped in advance to Russia
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  • elenanikolaevna
    elenanikolaevna 10 May 2014 05: 05
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    It reminds an old joke. -At a silver wedding they ask a wife -That you have lived together for so many years and have never quarreled, how did you get this? Spouse-We immediately decided after the wedding, I decide small issues, large-husband. And what are the large and small issues? Small-buy husband parts or a fur coat for me, I decide, and large-holding presidential elections in Ukraine, the husband decides.
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  • Bobxnumx
    Bobxnumx 9 May 2014 08: 45
    +2
    The United States does not need peace in Ukraine, and Europe follows in their wake. What are the presidential elections, when everything goes to a civil war.
  • Vityok
    Vityok 9 May 2014 08: 47
    0
    The West needs the air to pass the elections. Put your governor in the presidency and shout to the whole world that (legitimate authority) is fighting separatism). WITH HOLIDAY EVERYONE! HAPPY VICTORY !!!
  • VNP1958PVN
    VNP1958PVN 9 May 2014 08: 50
    +1
    However, Leontyev somehow "softly" spoke about "partners"? What is it for? request All a Happy Holiday! drinks
  • AleksPol
    AleksPol 9 May 2014 08: 56
    +1
    In the West, paranoia, GDP everywhere seems
  • pas682010
    pas682010 9 May 2014 09: 01
    +2
    In response to the yapping of NATO, ours conducted large-scale exercises. Like, while you are shaking the air, we’ll repeat here how to get Victory.
  • Venier
    Venier 9 May 2014 09: 37
    +3
    Amerov and banderlog on the chopping block! am
  • A1L9E4K9S
    A1L9E4K9S 9 May 2014 09: 45
    +2
    Quote: Bob0859
    What are the presidential elections, when everything goes to a civil war.


    Not everything goes to, but already blazes at the full, hundreds of people are dying, and for the West in Ukraine everything is calm, everything is fine, preparations are underway for elections, though the anti-terrorist operation in the South East spoils the big picture. The truth is that only half the country has been declared terrorists maybe the people are terrorists, and the righteous are white and fluffy ruling elite.
  • mamont5
    mamont5 9 May 2014 09: 58
    +2
    "The main goal for France is to ensure the holding of presidential elections in Ukraine on May 25," announced French President Francois Hollande. "If they do not take place, there will be chaos and the danger of civil war."

    Another dolbyatel, like Obama. All already inside out turned before the amers socialist unfinished.
    "You can say war is war, and elections are on schedule."

    Elections will not solve anything, because ours will not recognize them, and there will also be Julia, an unrecognized racketeer. Well, the war in the Donbass will not end there.
  • Giant thought
    Giant thought 9 May 2014 09: 58
    +1
    Debt by payment is red, we will still present our debt to the mattresses. No elections will stop the war in Ukraine. Stop the war in Ukraine can only deposition of the junta and the trial of its participants, from a to z.
  • Standard Oil
    Standard Oil 9 May 2014 10: 00
    +2
    I wish the Americans, when they had elections to hold the Civil War. Okay, the North will hold, but with the Southerners, what? The Confederates would send these "elections" to hell and generally they said "We are now a different state" What elections could there be? four years of war, so that these "elections" can be held. And the junta seems to think that they are some kind of special, falling outside the scope of historical practice, and they will succeed. Aha shchaz.
  • b.t.a.
    b.t.a. 9 May 2014 10: 04
    +1
    In general, it seems that Kiev does not care about their people. What elections if a third of Ukraine is in war? Yes, they do not care about the opinion of the Southeast. How would the EU react to the elections in France if the war were in the south-east of France.
  • b.t.a.
    b.t.a. 9 May 2014 10: 06
    +1
    HAPPY VICTORY COUNTRY COUNTRY!
  • Bakunin
    Bakunin 9 May 2014 10: 08
    +1
    "Elections, elections. Candidates - ..." (c) S. Shnurov.
  • targitai
    targitai 9 May 2014 10: 17
    +2
    And is there any kind of info about the losses of the junta near Slavyansk? Well, except for the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine.
  • Darth Vader
    Darth Vader 9 May 2014 10: 38
    +1
    Maybe it certainly has nothing to do with it, but May 25th is the Day of the Liberation of Africa from Nazi invaders ... And immediately some parallels appeared in my head ...
  • specialist
    specialist 9 May 2014 11: 24
    +2
    All veterans, our grandfathers and fathers, all forum users - Happy Great Day! Happy Victory Day!
  • Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 9 May 2014 11: 50
    +1
    Trolls are choking on saliva today. In Lviv, children at school are told that the holiday of May 9, this is a holiday of fascists, probably Sadovoy ordered.
    27 minutes ago | Comment

    Brainwashing continues .. There is someone to crush and it’s time for a long time! Here they held the Olympics ... they celebrated on May 9 .. It’s time to clean up! (divorced Nazi evil)
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  • Foxbed
    Foxbed 9 May 2014 12: 37
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    Quote: Manul49
    They would have landed back in 1946. And now they are screaming about their "sacrifice".

    ALL VETERANS, All Born in the USSR, their children and grandchildren, WITH THE GREAT VICTORY!
    You see, Manul, in 1942-43 the British and Americans were not 100% sure that we would win. But when everything was predetermined ... In a good fight, the main thing to get involved in time is to try on the winner’s laurels. It’s happening now. Attempts to distort history are TOTAL! Ask Japanese schoolchildren: who dropped bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki? Surprise, the USSR will answer! American history expert George Sores tried. And not only in Japan, Ukraine, he ... If so they will move on (and everything goes to this) 30 years later, we will be surprised to learn that Stalin unleashed a war and attacked peaceful Germany! Stalin enslaved almost all of Europe ... And if not Allied troops landed in Normandy and stopped the Soviets — the world would have vegetated under the heel of communism!
    It’s funny to you, but I don’t really. It’s all going to that. Their lies and hypocrisy amazes with scale, cynicism and professional approach. Therefore, while WE are alive, while our veterans are alive (God grant them good health and many years) it is necessary to bear TRUTH to people. AND OUR TRUTH must be with such fists... looking at which, no one doubted: "Yes, in 1945 they did it!" THEY !!! Others, against Hitler, had a thin bowel! "
    Ps.Here is something like this ... wink Once again: EVERYONE WITH GREAT HOLIDAY !!!!!
  • stas11830
    stas11830 9 May 2014 12: 46
    0
    Ha! Where would Avakov be if Chechen battalions really appeared in Ukraine !!!
  • frejaodina
    frejaodina 9 May 2014 12: 47
    +1
    The people found the best use for the Kiev representatives of the political "elite"
  • RUS33
    RUS33 9 May 2014 12: 48
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    Quote: mig31
    Do not call the Natsik gang, the gang-gang and stay. I believe that NATO is also a gang, so there is no need to rely on justice, it must be won, and what will be done in the Southeast by its people.

    That NATO is an organized crime group, and now in Kiev they want to create something similar to an organized crime group. With godfathers, sixes.
  • suharev-52
    suharev-52 9 May 2014 14: 20
    0
    In my opinion, it’s not yet evening. Do not run ahead of the engine. We wait! The main thing is yet to come. Sincerely.
    1. ver_
      ver_ 9 May 2014 17: 44
      0
      Do you know where is the Strait of St. George? ... true - between England and Scotland - they still remember Yuri the long-armed ...
      Europe was waiting for his invasion with his brother again - and called it Armageddon ...
  • Watchman
    Watchman 9 May 2014 14: 35
    0
    The people themselves must decide what they want and fight for it, and not hope that the GDP comes and does everything for us. Ukraine is not worth the lives of Russian soldiers.
  • Paranoid50
    Paranoid50 9 May 2014 15: 12
    +2
    Quote: Sunjar
    Well, he proposed to postpone the referendum, so they do not postpone it. They themselves are happy to play along, that, look, neither Russia nor Putin decides for us, we decide everything ourselves. From a diplomatic point of view, the move is correct. And the fact that Putin is a skillful and cunning diplomat and strategist has already convinced the whole world, but this is not to be understood by underpatriots.

    Yes, I agree, the first reaction to the "recommendation" of the GDP was: "Oh, fig, it can't be!" True, I immediately realized the simple fact that the recommendations are such, because they are not obligatory at all. And so it happened, which means everything is going according to plan, given the two-stage referendum in the South-East.
  • Russian jacket
    Russian jacket 9 May 2014 15: 26
    0
    S. Poltorak: "We are dealing with a well-armed and organized adversary, who are armed with grenade launchers, machine guns, mortars. People are well-trained, far from Slavic nationality, including."

    Avakov: "Tell me directly: there are Chechens."

    Forgot to add "I swear by my mother." Like Svidomo from conceit blows the roof. I saw on TV how Khokhloarmii armored personnel carriers are walking along good bushes. The Chechens in such conditions would have burned half of the convoy until the svidomye understood something hi am
  • BYV
    BYV 9 May 2014 15: 45
    0
    Comrades! Now I came across:
    In the meantime, Ukrainian fascia staged a massacre in Mariupol.

    http://www.ustream.tv/channel/newsfront4

    The people are chanting to the Ukrainian army: "F-shis-you!"
    They shot at unarmed peaceful people.

    9 May 2014 years ...
    ( Read more... )
    UPD 1: 12: 15 (MSC) In Mariupol shooting, there was a provocation at the police department, units of national guards and armored vehicles entered the city. No details yet.
    UPD 2: 13:00 (Moscow time) Fights are going on in Mariupol, the police took up defensive positions in the building of the police department, refusing to obey the junta. At the moment in the center, next to the building, six units of the Junta armored vehicles (APCs) are concentrated, intensive fire is being conducted. In addition to the national guards from the Dnipro battalion, foreigners from PMCs are taking part in the assault. Ten more armored vehicles are moving from the direction of Urzuf. The situation is heating up sharply, a peaceful rally of Mariupol residents is heading towards the building.
    UPD 3: 13: 15 (MSC) In the center of Mariupol, armored vehicles opened fire from the KPVT.
    UPD 4: 13: 20 (MSC) In Mariupol, there are already wounded and killed among the civilian population, all the shops have closed in the city center.
    UPD 5: 13: 30 (MSC) Two armored personnel carriers blocked the street. Artem, in the city of tanks, fire is being fired at the inhabitants of Mariupol.

    https://vk.com/soutukraine?w=wall-66621324_469907

    UPD 6: Lyashko's voice is periodically heard from the loudspeaker: "Russian Vanyushka, surrender! Whoever surrenders, that is an easy death. Those who do not surrender are hard." Pidar plays war game. He's having fun.

    "We have no fascists, we have no Nazis" (c) Ukrainian and Russian "intellectuals".

    UPD 7: 14: 34 Nat. The guard does not pass fire engines in the Department of Internal Affairs! Mariupol it burns, there are our guys! Those who fought back. People! Take the weapon! EVERYTHING!!! They will burn like in Odessa!
    http://peremogi.livejournal.com/2014/05/09/
  • individual
    individual 9 May 2014 16: 48
    0
    Every spring, we arm ourselves with a saw and pruner to remove unnecessary branches.
    Each gardener decides: what is needed, what I do not.
    From the moment of gaining crazy independence, in Ukraine there was no zealous owner and dead branches, shoots, pagans filled their garden.
    The garden previously flourished, but the envy of advanced neighbors grew a windbreak and thistle in their garden, in their garden.
    The "owner" ate too much white and, to the amusement of his western neighbors, unleashed the persecution of his people in his garden.
    What will this misunderstanding lead to?
    The answer is clear:
    - the man will not bother with "Molotov cocktails", the people will raise the pitchfork, which rust in the back room waiting for their historical mission.
    Is it time to stop?
    Few will not seem to anyone!
  • Petrovich T
    Petrovich T 9 May 2014 17: 23
    0
    Shame on the junta !!!!!
  • Cynic
    Cynic 9 May 2014 17: 23
    0
    Now there are reports on the central district about a gangster raid on Mariupol.
    Mmmm mother you are my woman, when is 11 and the formation of the DNI! Then, at the request of the DPR government, these fascist creatures can be fertilized ...!
  • kuzia-roker
    kuzia-roker 9 May 2014 17: 23
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    Quote: Baikal
    Guys, I understand that everything is burning in the firebox ... But there are educated people, why all these fortunetellers and other charlatans with crooks. There is no such thing

    so far all that this person said has come true and continues to come true so be measured for we live 1 time
    1. elenanikolaevna
      elenanikolaevna 10 May 2014 05: 36
      0
      And the 3rd World War ended, thank God, after Sochi. The Vanga-3rd World War will begin in 2010, 2014 will end, after the Olympics, but I didn’t notice something or overslept, tell me about it. (And this first was remembered, have a desire, look for yourself)
  • Borisych
    Borisych 9 May 2014 17: 47
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    Quote: platitsyn70
    it doesn’t smell like peace, there will be war, and after May 11th everything will just begin, it seems to me that the militia will go on the offensive, eastern military units will join the South-East.

    It also seems to me that after the referendum on May 11, everything will begin. It’s time to give teeth to these creatures.
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  • silberwolf88
    silberwolf88 9 May 2014 17: 57
    +1
    What Leontiev always pleases me with - clear formulations and conclusions.
    It’s stupid to navigate the West ... statements by European leaders are like a show ... dumb and dumber ... without going into context or understanding - they are bending their own (absolutely idiotic) political line ... regardless of the losses of the local population.