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Lavrov is preparing for a trip to Cuba

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As reported on the official website of the Russian Foreign Ministry, in the framework of a working visit to a number of Latin American countries, the head of department Sergey Lavrov plans to visit Cuba on April 28-29.


During the visit, Lavrov had meetings with the Chairman of the State Council of Castro, also Foreign Minister of Cuba Rodriguez. It is planned to discuss a number of issues on international politics, as well as various aspects of bilateral cooperation.

Lavrov is preparing for a trip to Cuba


As reported on the official website of the Russian Foreign Ministry, during a working visit to a number of Latin American countries, the head of department, Sergey Lavrov, plans to visit Cuba on April 28-29.

During the visit, Lavrov had meetings with the Chairman of the State Council of Castro, also Foreign Minister of Cuba Rodriguez. It is planned to discuss a number of issues on international politics, as well as various aspects of bilateral cooperation.

Russia has long maintained friendly and trusting relations with Cuba. Back in 1996, the countries signed the Declaration of Principles of Relationships, and in 2009, in Moscow, the Memorandum on Principles of Strategic Cooperation
It is worth noting that the political dialogue with Cuba is maintained regularly at a high and high level. Moreover, a solid basis for cooperation between Russia and Cuba on the world stage is primarily a coincidence of positions and opinions on most issues relating to the situation in the world, adherence to strict observance of the principles and norms of international law, primarily the UN Charter. The republic traditionally supports Russia's priorities in the framework of the UN General Assembly. In turn, the Russian side regularly declares the need for an immediate lifting of the US trade and economic blockade of Cuba.

During the meeting of Sergey Lavrov with the Chairman of the State Council of Castro, along with the discussion of issues of political interaction, it is also planned to pay attention to the problem of further expansion of trade and economic ties.

In this case, the important task remains to increase and diversify the goods turnover. Projects of cooperation in the field of energy, transport, civil aviation, biotechnology and healthcare.

No less important in relations between countries is cooperation in the field of culture and public life. Russia traditionally takes part in various cultural events held in Havana, festivals. In turn, Cuba hosts Russian Film Weeks, cooperation in the field of theatrical art is successfully implemented.

The upcoming meetings of foreign ministers in Havana will make it possible to verify the course of the agreements that were reached in 2012 in Moscow between Russian President Vladimir Putin and the Chairman of the State Council of the Republic of Cuba Castro. It is planned that the meetings will contribute to building trust between countries and achieving agreement on many international issues.
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  1. Validator
    Validator April 28 2014 21: 22
    +60
    Pralna, something needs to be stir up in Latin America so that the amers once have intervened in our Ukraine
    1. platitsyn70
      platitsyn70 April 28 2014 21: 31
      +21
      Pralna, something needs to be stir up in Latin America so that the amers once have intervened in our Ukraine
      return the base and put the Iskanders on duty to protect the Cubans.
      1. matross
        matross April 28 2014 21: 48
        .
        Quote: platitsyn70
        Iskanders put on duty to protect the Cubans.

        Khrushchev had already tried to stage it. Everyone knows the result - the Cuban missile crisis. Instead of crazy suggestions, just shout "hurray and give Cuba !!" - you will get pluses ...
        1. mirag2
          mirag2 April 28 2014 21: 53
          +34
          The Caribbean crisis has nothing to do with it.
          They are closer to us, we are closer to them.
          The Americans are very sensitive to approaching their borders - they are used to the fact that no one can reach them from across the ocean. And here, right next to them, they immediately begin to weaken in their knees ...
          1. matross
            matross April 28 2014 22: 02
            .
            Quote: mirag2
            The Caribbean crisis has nothing to do with it.

            Yes? Can you justify it somehow?
            1. Saratoga833
              Saratoga833 April 28 2014 22: 30
              +11
              And why should we justify and to whom? I believe that Russia should not report to anyone! Do the States report a lot to us?
            2. JIaIIoTb
              JIaIIoTb April 28 2014 22: 35
              +20
              We just put our missile defense. Maloli suddenly missiles from the DPRK will fly there laughing
              1. jktu66
                jktu66 April 28 2014 23: 21
                +8
                We just put our missile defense. Maloli suddenly missiles from the DPRK will fly there
                Correctly! Our American ... partners have nothing to worry about, our base in Cuba does not threaten them with anything smile
                1. Vasek
                  Vasek April 29 2014 04: 21
                  -1
                  Quote: jktu66
                  Our American ... partners have nothing to worry about, our base in Cuba does not threaten them with anything

                  But: we won’t give legal guarantees! lol
            3. serega.fedotov
              serega.fedotov April 28 2014 22: 52
              +5
              Quote: matRoss
              Yes? Can you justify it somehow?

              USA During the Caribbean crisis, the country proscribed the USSR a few warriors, and also considered the social camp an inevitable victory in the economic race (at least the Pentagon considered this scenario as VERY probable) And the deployment of missiles on the cube was considered as a red line of defense !!!
              NOW the situation is completely different! And the United States will not start an atomic war over air defense systems in Cuba! And the other Sanktsy, so that the Yusovites could introduce, have already entered!
              In addition, RUSSIA and Nicaragua concluded an EXTREMELY curious treaty which, from a military-political point of view, is much more dangerous for the United States than air defense in Cuba! And the United States got lost in response !!!!
              1. ty60
                ty60 April 28 2014 23: 29
                0
                more detailed, please, about the contract. With text.
                1. Vasek
                  Vasek April 29 2014 04: 27
                  0
                  Quote: ty60
                  more detailed, please, about the contract. With text

                  There are too few letters "Y" and "O" in that "agreement" for "VERY" worthy answer to your question! laughing
            4. mirag2
              mirag2 April 28 2014 22: 53
              +4
              What to substantiate?
              Specifically, justified.
              What does the Caribbean crisis have to do with it?
              Is it justified?
              Where is your Caribbean crisis now?
              What justify something?
              Or do you want to say that the Caribbean crisis led to the current situation, to Lavrov’s trip to Cuba?
              1. matross
                matross April 28 2014 23: 00
                .
                Quote: mirag2
                More specific

                In general, specifically: an attempt to deploy offensive weapons in the USSR in Cuba led to the Caribbean crisis (can you not describe the details?). What is the difference with a possible attempt to deploy offensive weapons now in the same place and why do you think the analogies are inappropriate?
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                  1. matross
                    matross April 28 2014 23: 16
                    -9
                    Well, thank God! Remain among us and sane. hi
                    I replied to our hasty friend, who suggested putting the Iskanders that this ... um ... was ill-conceived, but received a bucket of Mr.
                    Thank you, you comforted me wink
                2. mirag2
                  mirag2 April 28 2014 23: 13
                  +4
                  Yes, just a presence will already deprive the US of peace.
                3. 120352
                  120352 April 28 2014 23: 52
                  +5
                  matross
                  You do not own the history of the issue.
                  1. Vasek
                    Vasek April 29 2014 04: 38
                    0
                    Quote: 120352
                    matross
                    You do not own the history of the issue.


                    "What is such a sailor question?
                    Do not you see - we are eating! " am
                    (from the cartoon about Munchausen). laughing
                4. Thompson
                  Thompson April 29 2014 00: 30
                  +6
                  Quote: matRoss
                  Quote: mirag2
                  More specific

                  In general, specifically: an attempt to deploy offensive weapons in the USSR in Cuba led to the Caribbean crisis (can you not describe the details?). What is the difference with a possible attempt to deploy offensive weapons now in the same place and why do you think the analogies are inappropriate?

                  And here, without any concrete details, everything is turned upside down! Responding in your own style, the attempt to deploy offensive weapons in Cuba was a response to the aggressive policy of the United States — the environment of the USSR with its bases. Therefore, the United States itself caused the Caribbean crisis and it is unfortunate that the USSR did not have the strength to bring this matter to the end then; now they would not have been so impudent.
                5. Aleksandr89
                  Aleksandr89 April 29 2014 01: 10
                  +12
                  If YOU, dear, have forgotten the story, I will slightly refresh your memory. The Caribbean crisis did not begin with the deployment of Soviet missiles in Cuba - this is its last phase. And with the deployment of American missiles in Europe, and in Turkey. The flight time was reduced just as it is now, plus the United States had an advantage in the means of delivery of nuclear parts. So this was an adequate response from the Soviet side. And then the USSR is blamed for everything, by the way after the negotiations of the USSR - it withdrew its missiles from Cuba, and the USA - abandoned plans for further deployment of missiles in Turkey.
                6. Vasek
                  Vasek April 29 2014 04: 34
                  0
                  Quote: matRoss
                  In general, specifically: an attempt to deploy offensive weapons in the USSR in Cuba led to the Caribbean crisis (can you not describe the details?). What is the difference with a possible attempt to deploy offensive weapons now in the same place and why do you think the analogies are inappropriate?


                  SW matrosik!
                  After reading the history and results of the "Caribbean crisis" more attentively, it is easy to see that in the end nuclear missiles from Turkey were removed.
                  Not to mention the fact that the partners generally got rid of, and, since then, our leaders have been addressing "YOU"!
            5. Vasek
              Vasek April 29 2014 04: 17
              -1
              Quote: matRoss
              The Caribbean crisis has nothing to do with it.
              Yes? Can you justify it somehow?


              Don’t be nervous, matRoskin!
              There were other times - now only one submarine under the belly of the destroyer (which, without violating international laws, with a friendly visit ...) will leak somewhere in Varadero, for example. soldier
              And let the "partners" now cool their pants with liquid. From there it is even closer to Florida than to them because of Lvov.
              And, in the end, Mr. Lavrov does not go on trips abroad without confidence in his innocence! bully
            6. fif21
              fif21 April 29 2014 04: 39
              -1
              Quote: matRoss
              Yes? Can you justify it somehow?
              Khrushchev provoked the Caribbean crisis with not very smart actions. Only Nikita could think of the fact that missiles can be placed in Cuba SECRET. Here mattresses hooked him on this.
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            9. siberalt
              siberalt April 29 2014 05: 10
              +1
              In principle, I agree with your point of view. Let us compare at least the potential of missiles with a "nucleus" during the Caribbean crisis and the equipment of one of our modern submarines. And why is it spent on island bases when no one is driving us out of Cuban ports? And whether our radar station is needed there - let the military specialists decide. Something like this.
          2. 1812 1945
            1812 1945 April 28 2014 23: 21
            +11
            Quote: mirag2
            The Caribbean crisis has nothing to do with it.
            They are closer to us, we are closer to them.
            The Americans are very sensitive to approaching their borders - they are used to the fact that no one can reach them from across the ocean. And here, right next to them, they immediately begin to weaken in their knees ...

            Lavrov's trip to Cuba right now is worth several days of uninterrupted communication with Kerry, Fabius, Sikorsky, Haig and other NATO fagots. (Alas, they did not deserve another "collective image") ) was a betrayal of state interests - high treason. It's time to collect stones.
          3. Vladimir 23rus
            Vladimir 23rus April 29 2014 18: 26
            -1
            Not in the knees, but in a famous place :) Already all over the world it smells later laughing
        2. Berkut-UA
          Berkut-UA April 28 2014 22: 14
          +13
          Quote: matRoss
          Quote: platitsyn70
          Iskanders put on duty to protect the Cubans.

          Khrushchev had already tried to stage it. Everyone knows the result - the Cuban missile crisis. Instead of crazy suggestions, just shout "hurray and give Cuba !!" - you will get pluses ...


          But do you think the increase in the naval and aviation composition of the NGA and NATO in the immediate vicinity of the borders with Russia is not the Ukrainian crisis? Planned and implemented by the United States with the ultimate goal of striking Russia.

          I believe that Putin has every reason to dictate an ultimatum to Obama, as Kennedy once did.
          And announce that in addition to missiles in Cuba
          Russian planes and helicopters will CONSTANTLY hang over all US Navy ships located in the Black and Baltic Seas.
          And any provocation by the United States or NATO - will be regarded as an act of war and an answer - will fly right away.

          This and only this can cool the agility of Obama's Mess.
          1. sub307
            sub307 April 28 2014 22: 22
            +5
            Generally speaking, it is a sensible idea to place anything in Cuba, if this "movement" is meant as a reaction to the deployment of all kinds of "crap" by the United States in the countries of Eastern Europe, under our "nose". And while the "Caribbean Crisis-2", according to the previous scenario, may well not break out. Anyway, it seems to me that Lavrov is not only going to talk about "sausage, rum and ballet" there.
            1. Rostislav
              Rostislav April 28 2014 23: 08
              +4
              Of course, not only about ballet. I believe that Lavrov’s reaction to Obamovich’s reaction will be similar to that he reacted as a maid of arms to Shoygu’s decision to conduct exercises near Slavyansk (so far on our side).
              1. Vasek
                Vasek April 29 2014 04: 41
                0
                Quote: Rostislav
                reacted like a maidan egg test to Shoigu’s decision to conduct exercises near Slavyansk

                Well, isn’t he handsome Kuzhugetich ?! good soldier
            2. Mih
              Mih April 28 2014 23: 51
              0
              Rum is good, Hemingway’s favorite cocktail.
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          3. matross
            matross April 28 2014 22: 26
            -9
            Quote: Berkut-UA
            I believe that Putin has every reason to dictate an ultimatum to Obama

            Why ultimatums? Immediately herachit missiles adversaries! How do you put it
            Quote: Berkut-UA
            otvetka - will fly right away.

            Write to Putin, tell me - what is he mumbling with his diplomacy there?
            1. ty60
              ty60 April 28 2014 23: 34
              0
              meet me as a lighthouse - like an officer of guidance. A virtual order of courage from my submission is provided.
            2. yulka2980
              yulka2980 April 29 2014 03: 28
              0
              Column 5 when will you calm down already?
          4. Rostislav
            Rostislav April 28 2014 23: 03
            +2
            The thought is correct, I support. But there is no need to hang planes over ships in the Black and Baltic Seas - anti-ship missiles in the Crimea and the Kaliningrad region are enough.
          5. DPN
            DPN April 28 2014 23: 46
            +3
            Quote: Berkut-UA
            The result is known to all - the Caribbean crisis.


            The United States then removed the missiles from TURKEY, the result of the Caribbean crisis, and thanks to it, the UNION lived in peace with the United States. With humpbacked and EBN, Russia played tricks with the United States. Now times have changed and they are threatening to give us the teeth.
        3. 4952915
          4952915 April 28 2014 22: 57
          -3
          Yeah, I want the minuses - damn the USSR and Russia, it's a simple matter. Network masochism?
          1. alexng
            alexng April 29 2014 00: 17
            +3
            Quote: 4952915
            damn the USSR and Russia, a simple matter - network masochism


            In this form it will be more correct. Cursing the USSR and Russia only their stupidity shows complete ignorance, i.e. lamb education.
        4. Lord of the Sith
          Lord of the Sith April 28 2014 23: 18
          +4
          Quote: matRoss
          Khrushchev had already tried to stage it. Everyone knows the result - the Cuban missile crisis. Instead of crazy suggestions, just shout "hurray and give Cuba !!" - you will get pluses ...


          Khrushchev secured the removal of American missiles from duty on duty in Turkey.
          1. matross
            matross April 28 2014 23: 33
            0
            Quote: Sith Lord
            Khrushchev secured the removal of American missiles from duty on duty in Turkey.

            It's true. But what does this prove? What is now an attempt to deploy offensive weapons in Cuba will lead to the rejection of amers from the deployment of missile defense in Europe? Give up their plans for Ukraine?
            I’m talking about offensive means. The benefits of creating a fleet base, air base, and electronic intelligence equipment are undeniable.
            1. Vasek
              Vasek April 29 2014 04: 53
              +1
              Quote: matRoss
              I’m talking about offensive means. The benefits of creating a fleet base, air base, and electronic intelligence equipment are undeniable.


              But no one knows what is really in the plans.
              Yes, the offensive component (at the current rate of development of armaments) can only overcome the defensive amount.
              But the question is not about strategies, but about restoration of parity and Great Oblom USA as a world gendarme!
              And for this purpose, and radio engineering of the 21st century in Cuba will do, if the "old" SU-24 destroyer with Aegis from our vicinity has caught up. laughing
        5. gav6757
          gav6757 April 28 2014 23: 40
          +1
          Carrying out exercises (joint) with Cubans, in Cuba, would be beneficial for us and for them! We would invite America to think about the availability of its borders! Cubans would show that behind them are "polite people" and support the Castro regime!
          All is well, a pleasure!
          am - not sweet, but it’s their problem, let them feel the foreign troops at their borders !!!
        6. 120352
          120352 April 28 2014 23: 49
          +4
          matross
          Do you, sir, know anything about it besides the phrase "Cuban missile crisis"? Why did it start and how did it end? I remind you.
          It all started with the fact that the Americans put their missiles in Turkey. They put up against us. (Today, these missiles surround the entire south-west of Russia and may soon appear on the Dnieper, which is much closer than Turkey). In response to this, ours put their missiles in Cuba. Yes, there was a noise called the Caribbean Crisis. But it ended with the Americans removing their missiles, and we ours. If it had not been for the "Caribbean crisis", and American missiles would have continued to surround the USSR, perhaps you and I would not have existed today.
          Each crisis takes the system to a new level of development. No crises - no development. What is happening today is the Ukrainian crisis, with the main goal of weakening Russia and subordinating it to the interests of the States. You can follow your advice. those. do not escalate anything, but surrender, or you can present compelling arguments to our opponents. Yes, the crisis will go to the limit, but otherwise crises are not resolved, as abscesses do not break through.
          So "Give Cuba" is, as you know, your bad joke. But "We will not give up, we will save Russia" - this is serious.
          1. matross
            matross April 28 2014 23: 59
            0
            Quote: 120352
            You can follow your advice. those. nothing to escalate, but surrender

            Quote does not make it difficult, where do I give up advise?
            Quote: 120352
            I remind you.

            Likebes? Thanks, of course ... I'm a bit in the know
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          3. ksv1973
            ksv1973 April 29 2014 00: 59
            +1
            Quote: 120352
            matross
            Do you, sir, know anything about it besides the phrase "Cuban missile crisis"? Why did it start and how did it end? I remind you.
            It all started with the fact that the Americans put their missiles in Turkey. They put up against us. (Today, these missiles surround the entire south-west of Russia and may soon appear on the Dnieper, which is much closer than Turkey). In response to this, ours put their missiles in Cuba. Yes, there was a noise called the Caribbean Crisis. But it ended with the Americans removing their missiles, and we ours. If it had not been for the "Caribbean crisis", and American missiles would have continued to surround the USSR, perhaps you and I would not have existed today.

            You don’t know a damn thing about the reasons and details of the events you are trying to talk about with such aplomb! I don’t know how much you are aware of other historical moments, but don’t get into the topic you have indicated. Your reasoning, to put it mildly, is ridiculous.
        7. Thompson
          Thompson April 29 2014 00: 21
          0
          have any crazy ideas? to the studio!
        8. ksv1973
          ksv1973 April 29 2014 00: 42
          +1
          Quote: matRoss
          Quote: platitsyn70
          Iskanders put on duty to protect the Cubans.

          Khrushchev had already tried to stage it. Everyone knows the result - the Cuban missile crisis. Instead of crazy suggestions, just shout "hurray and give Cuba !!"

          Khrushchev, let it be, matRoss, you know, tried to stick nuclear warheads into Cuba on carriers inefficient in terms of range.
          At that time, ineffective ... What Americans knew, already having more interesting, in terms of delivery, products.
          Do you really think the Caribbean crisis is over? Russia now has seriously more American banduras.
          And with regards to the pros - so you already raped your cons! tongue
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      2. platitsyn70
        platitsyn70 April 28 2014 21: 48
        +16
        Poroshenko and Tymoshenko
        1. persei
          persei April 28 2014 22: 15
          +2
          is that PARAShenko?
      3. persei
        persei April 28 2014 22: 13
        +5
        Quote: platitsyn70
        return the base and put the Iskanders on duty to protect the Cubans.

        And then offer America ... you leave Ukraine ... and we do not place missiles in Cuba ... In general, the policy of the traitor Gorbach pokh ... Yeltsin ... lick F ,,,, to the Americans ... brought so many defeats and misses ... that we still cannot disentangle ...
      4. WKS
        WKS April 28 2014 22: 19
        +3
        Quote: platitsyn70
        Pralna, something needs to be stir up in Latin America so that the amers once have intervened in our Ukraine
        Yes, it’s easy to place two planes and 150 marines there (or how many Americans there are in Latvia?) To deter the United States. It will not be expensive, but media. And trumpet it all over the world.
        1. Trinity
          Trinity April 28 2014 22: 45
          +4
          WKS / We don’t need to blow, they themselves will blow the whole world. Such a screech will be raised, it will be heard on the moon.
      5. pozivnoy-REX49
        pozivnoy-REX49 April 29 2014 03: 22
        +1
        Iskanders, rather weak. We need to plant more "Topol")
      6. Predator
        Predator April 29 2014 06: 07
        0
        And always an airfield for front-line aviation! There will be our unsinkable aircraft carrier! lol
    2. Army1
      Army1 April 28 2014 23: 20
      +3
      Someone will have diarrhea soon.
    3. Asadali
      Asadali April 29 2014 01: 11
      +1
      Russian Defense Ministry - A small glitch in the course of the Russian missile RS-24 YRS. Pentagon - This is a provocation, US air defense could not take the target

      On April 26.04.2014, 24, the next launch of the RS-XNUMX YARS intercontinental missile from the Kapustin Yar test site was carried out as part of the Strategic Missile Forces military exercises.
      The missile was supposed to cover the distance in 9 000 km in less than 2 hours. The missile did its job perfectly, but the missile’s flight course officially failed, the missile moved toward the continent of North America, the target is the United States.
      As stated at the Pentagon: Russia was trying to provoke the states into military action that would lead to irreparable.
      US air defense could not take the RS-24 on target even when the missile was less than 2000 km from the country. When the rocket approached a distance of about 500 km, it changed course and flew towards Argentina.
      The Russian Defense Ministry commented on this situation as "A slight misalignment of the missile's flight path, moreover, it was absolutely safe and did not contain an explosive base."
      The Pentagon called Russia's actions provocative and recalled that Russian missiles never gave such failures, not taking into account the Bulava missile, and that they do not believe in the accident of all this.
      Recall that this is not the first time that the United States is unable to ensure its security, in particular the recent case in the Black Sea, when the Russian Su-24 bomber with the support of the radio-electronic warfare system opposed the American missile destroyer Donald Cook.
      The Su-24 using the EW system created irresistible obstacles to the radars and the guidance system of the destroyer, after which for more than an hour it simulated a combat attack, approaching the destroyer at 100 meters.
      The world arms race will always remain with us, said Chuck Heigl, but today we see something else. The United States began to show its weakness and helplessness.

      http://ruskline.ru/politnews/2014/04/28/minoborony_rf_nebolshoj_sboj_kursa_rossi

      jskoj_rakety_rs24_yars_pentagon_eto_provokaciya_pvo_ssha_ne_smogli_vzyat_cel /

      About the distance of about 500 km, they may have bent ..., but it becomes pleasantly in my soul after such news
    4. Ivan 63
      Ivan 63 April 29 2014 05: 45
      +1
      It is necessary, perhaps, not like Khrushchev's "kick a hedgehog in the ass," but let them feel and think that Latin America is not against it.
    5. Ivan 63
      Ivan 63 April 29 2014 05: 45
      0
      It is necessary, perhaps, not like Khrushchev's "kick a hedgehog in the ass," but let them feel and think that Latin America is not against it.
  2. svp67
    svp67 April 28 2014 21: 24
    +27
    Sergey Lavrov plans to visit Cuba on April 28-29.
    BASE .... For missile defense systems and the Navy, you can build an airfield, for the rest of our "strategists" ... And you can write off their debt ...
    1. matross
      matross April 28 2014 21: 31
      +16
      Quote: svp67
      BASE ...

      Yes, without question, for that I went. The base will be a normal spit in the face Amer. But it will cost a lot, Cubans understand the price of the issue ...
      1. Al_lexx
        Al_lexx April 28 2014 21: 48
        +8
        Quote: matRoss
        Quote: svp67
        BASE ...

        Yes, without question, for that I went. The base will be a normal spit in the face Amer. But it will cost a lot, Cubans understand the price of the issue ...

        And who does not understand her? It seems to me that now we especially clearly understand this price.
        Well, this base of money will cost us, but in return, if I may say so, we get what you can’t buy for any money if you don’t have today's regime in Cuba.
        Here the Americans will arrange in Cuba what thread the green or purple revolution and then how much you do not pay, you can’t buy anything.

        ZY
        Thank you for the good news.
        1. jjj
          jjj April 28 2014 22: 28
          +2
          In Cuba, many pleasant lures. Liberty Island can place a lot of things to control in the region
    2. gav6757
      gav6757 April 28 2014 23: 43
      0
      Yes, you can write off, but you need, and still give!
      May you drown with your anger and shit !!!
  3. philip
    philip April 28 2014 21: 26
    +11
    Infa significant.
  4. Comintern
    Comintern April 28 2014 21: 26
    +16
    On a cube, you need to stir up the base so that the mattresses generally stop sleeping
  5. Yugra
    Yugra April 28 2014 21: 27
    +24
    Good luck in negotiating with Lavrov! The revival of military cooperation with Cuba is the best answer to the unbridled Obama
    1. ty60
      ty60 April 28 2014 23: 39
      +1
      Venezuela also needs to be promoted. There are options for trading with Cuba.
  6. Deadmen
    Deadmen April 28 2014 21: 28
    +6
    Bases !!! Bases !!!! military !!!
    1. msd
      msd April 29 2014 00: 21
      +1
      Bases !!! Bases !!!! military !!!

      yes
      Yes, for this, the Americans themselves will put Obama on a stake ...
  7. SHOCK.
    SHOCK. April 28 2014 21: 28
    +2
    The Cubans will not be against the base. They never became friends with the amers.
  8. konvalval
    konvalval April 28 2014 21: 30
    +9
    I would bring with me a couple of S-400 divisions as a gift to Cuba.
    1. Al_lexx
      Al_lexx April 28 2014 21: 54
      +9
      Quote: konvalval
      I would bring with me a couple of S-400 divisions as a gift to Cuba.

      +1

      And first of all, put there an early detection radar and base the aircraft AWACS.

      A dozen missile boats, the latest generation, for adequate protection of territorial waters, will also not be superfluous. Also, it would not be bad to raise their air defense in a broader sense, through a regiment or two armed with our most modern fighters. But let them serve themselves.
      By the way, the fighters from the Cubans are not the worst.
      1. persei
        persei April 28 2014 22: 18
        +2
        exactly ... they are good fighters .... what is Africa worth ...
        1. Al_lexx
          Al_lexx April 28 2014 22: 57
          0
          Quote: persei
          exactly ... they are good fighters .... what is Africa worth ...

          Yes, they and not amers chased amers badly ..))
      2. voliador
        voliador April 28 2014 23: 16
        0
        But specifically pilots - so-so.
      3. kimyth1
        kimyth1 April 29 2014 00: 47
        +4
        more interest clubs !!!!!!!!!!!!! yes
        1. Zelen
          Zelen April 29 2014 04: 51
          -1
          And preferably in Cuba
  9. Igor I.
    Igor I. April 28 2014 21: 32
    +9
    But Pasaran!
    You give Cuba as a counterweight to eastward advancement!
    Twice a week - a flight of holidaymakers to Havana ... well, or "polite people" ... - as appropriate ...
    1. matross
      matross April 28 2014 21: 35
      +3
      Quote: Igor I.
      Twice a week - holidaymakers flight to Havana ...

      They fly there more often now, all of Varadero is clogged with Russians. You are not in the subject.
  10. ia-ai00
    ia-ai00 April 28 2014 21: 32
    +2
    along with discussion of issues political engagement

    I would like to - politico-military Interactions, with the prospect of a military base in Russia, under the nose of a / M / E / R / s.
  11. starhina01
    starhina01 April 28 2014 21: 34
    +3
    I hope for a successful and mutually beneficial outcome in the negotiations, it is high time to restore friendly relations, so that the mattresses would not roll out their lips yes
  12. flc9800
    flc9800 April 28 2014 21: 34
    +2
    Cuba is far, Cuba is far
    Cuba nearby, Cuba nearby
    We say it, we say it! wink
    1. persei
      persei April 28 2014 22: 19
      +1
      laughing "Cuba, my love ... The island of the crimson dawn .."
      1. DPN
        DPN April 28 2014 23: 59
        +1
        Thank you for the song, Let the ENEMY not hope for success (usa)
  13. strong man
    strong man April 28 2014 21: 36
    0
    And to place missiles with NUCLEAR weapons in Cuba! Still, despite all the shortcomings of Nikita Khrushchev, his phrase expressed to the Americans "WE WILL FUNER YOU" becomes very relevant at this time !! Well, the states do not want to live in peace and tranquility!
    1. Al_lexx
      Al_lexx April 28 2014 22: 10
      +8
      No strategists are needed there. We need early detection tools and elements of missile defense and air defense.
      And we can deliver missiles with much less noise to the shores of their continent on our submarines. In general, it is not so important now what time of approach at the mine-based missile. Moreover, now it’s not fashionable to shake a nuclear club. Now it’s fashionable to have a bunch of cruise missiles with conventional warheads that are not subject to restrictive agreements. Therefore, the main trend is not mines (although they are needed), but multipurpose nuclear submarines and frigates with high-precision weapons.
      1. Orc-xnumx
        Orc-xnumx April 28 2014 22: 22
        +2
        Yes, A-50 and IL-38 of the latest modifications.
      2. Al_lexx
        Al_lexx April 28 2014 22: 59
        +1
        By the way, one of the latest news from Russian Strategic Rocket Forces:
        Russian Defense Ministry - A small glitch in the course of the Russian missile RS-24 YRS. Pentagon - This is a provocation, US air defense could not take the target

        28.04.2014

        On April 26.04.2014, 24, the next launch of the RS-XNUMX YARS intercontinental missile from the Kapustin Yar test site was carried out as part of the Strategic Missile Forces military exercises.

        The missile was supposed to cover the distance in 9 000 km in less than 2 hours. The missile did its job perfectly, but the missile’s flight course officially failed, the missile moved toward the continent of North America, the target is the United States.

        As stated at the Pentagon: Russia was trying to provoke the states into military action that would lead to irreparable.

        US air defense could not take the RS-24 on target even when the missile was less than 2000 km from the country. When the rocket approached a distance of about 500 km, it changed course and flew towards Argentina.

        The Russian Defense Ministry commented on this situation as "A slight misalignment of the missile's flight path, moreover, it was absolutely safe and did not contain an explosive base."

        The Pentagon called Russia's actions provocative and recalled that Russian missiles never gave such failures, not taking into account the Bulava missile, and that they do not believe in the accident of all this.

        Recall that this is not the first time that the United States is unable to ensure its security, in particular the recent case in the Black Sea, when the Russian Su-24 bomber with the support of the radio-electronic warfare system opposed the American missile destroyer Donald Cook.

        The Su-24 using the EW system created irresistible obstacles to the radars and the guidance system of the destroyer, after which for more than an hour it simulated a combat attack, approaching the destroyer at 100 meters.

        The world arms race will always remain with us, said Chuck Heigl, but today we see something else. The United States began to show its weakness and helplessness.

        A source:
        http://ruskline.ru/politnews/2014/04/28/minoborony_rf_nebolshoj_sboj_kursa_rossi
        jskoj_rakety_rs24_yars_pentagon_eto_provokaciya_pvo_ssha_ne_smogli_vzyat_cel /
  14. Kidey
    Kidey April 28 2014 21: 37
    0
    it would be necessary to call in Mexico bully
    1. Horse
      Horse April 28 2014 21: 45
      +3
      Then to Venezuela, well, to ride in South America - there are many friends there
    2. Al_lexx
      Al_lexx April 28 2014 22: 12
      +2
      Quote: Kidey
      it would be necessary to call in Mexico bully

      In Mexico, we have nothing to do. Every second Mexican dreams of obtaining American citizenship.
      Venezuela is a different matter.
  15. XLexx
    XLexx April 28 2014 21: 42
    0
    I hope about the bases and nuclear missiles will go to negotiate.
    1. mad
      mad April 28 2014 21: 46
      +2
      When the last time Nikita agreed a little nuclear war did not happen, but the mattresses took their rockets out of Turkey. History spirals, perhaps ...
    2. Reserve officer
      Reserve officer April 28 2014 21: 49
      +14
      Missiles with nuclear warheads, of course, will not be there. But the base for the presence of our fleet - oh, how nice it would be.
      Although the fact of such a visit is already a serious psychological weapon.
  16. VeteranS
    VeteranS April 28 2014 21: 46
    +4
    The Americans are still occupying Cuban territory without closing their military base in Guantanamo, although every new American president promised to do this ... The time has nevertheless come to push the Americans out of Liberty Island and build their own to call nuclear submarines with nuclear warheads. .. Then Obama and his assistants are guaranteed restless nights and troubled days. It's time.
  17. 2409000005
    2409000005 April 28 2014 21: 48
    +6
    A strategic partnership in this region will provide the United States with an understanding that there may be a danger in their underbelly, which they apparently have time to forget. We gave way too much, Putin is right. It's time to come back ....
  18. fly fishing
    fly fishing April 28 2014 21: 50
    +4
    Quote: Kidey
    it would be necessary to call in Mexico bully

    as part of a working trip to a number of Latin American states

    Lavrov not only gathered in Cuba, the meaning of the article is correct! Will call!
  19. sledge
    sledge April 28 2014 21: 52
    +3
    Return to Cuba. Install missile defense there
    1. Starover_Z
      Starover_Z April 29 2014 00: 44
      +2
      That's right. Agree on closer trade and technical cooperation, conclude mutually beneficial agreements.
      To agree on the base of material and technical support of the fleet, on the airfield for our strategists.
      Well, at the end, an agreement on the restoration of our radio intelligence station and the installation of the Voronezh station.
      But do not write off debts - there is no need to rush, right?
      And there is nothing to talk with amers at all - we are doing this because we are afraid of missiles of terrorist regimes and bast!
  20. DPN
    DPN April 28 2014 21: 54
    +3
    CUBA is the only place from where RUSSIA can threaten the states, which means talking on EQUAL or even sometimes sending them to the RUSSIAN MEMBER !!. Remember N.S. Khrushchev immediately put the states in his pants, but we were on the verge of war, but the same thing is happening now only there is no way to give the states their teeth, CUBA gives this opportunity!
    RUSSIA was now socialist capitalist, and there were no normal relations with the West, and there will not be and will not be while RUSSIA lives. We do not need the Russians west.
    1. Berkut-UA
      Berkut-UA April 28 2014 22: 21
      0
      Quote: DPN
      CUBA is the only place from where RUSSIA can threaten the states


      I do not agree.
      Have you forgotten about SSBN?
  21. Tektor
    Tektor April 28 2014 22: 05
    0
    I understand that the missile defense base? lol
  22. storm wind
    storm wind April 28 2014 22: 05
    +1
    In addition to the military base - this is a great place for relaxing polite people with their families .. Ocean! Heat! Prices only make adequate for the flight .. And if the BTA? Just kidding ... although who knows ...
  23. silberwolf88
    silberwolf88 April 28 2014 22: 07
    +1
    With Cuba, I always had a lot to understand ... apparently a lack of awareness ... still do not understand why we withdrew the brigade from Cuba and closed the intelligence center ??? ... why they practically turned off cooperation ??? ... in various fields, including military technology ...
    Is it really just money ...

    The good news is that Zarubezhneft (and its partners) are starting exploration in the Cuban zone of the Gulf of Mexico ... which means ... there will be money and energy independence ... that is, all that they lacked.
    1. Al_lexx
      Al_lexx April 28 2014 22: 15
      +6
      Quote: silberwolf88
      With Cuba, I always had a lot to understand ... apparently a lack of awareness ... still do not understand why we withdrew the brigade from Cuba and closed the intelligence center ??? ... why they practically turned off cooperation ??? ... in various fields, including military technology ...
      <...>

      Because Yeltsin and Kozyrev ... Because all 90, at the Kremlin helm were entirely Atlantists.
      1. Igool
        Igool April 29 2014 02: 47
        0
        And the CIA lived in the Kremlin even more freely than in Washington. There they had more restrictions from Congress, here all restrictions were lifted, the assumption was the maximum damage to the economy and the country as a whole.
  24. Reserve officer
    Reserve officer April 28 2014 22: 10
    +5
    We now have four fleets and one flotilla. Need a fifth - Atlantic.
    1. matross
      matross April 28 2014 22: 15
      +9
      And the sixth is galactic! wassat
      But it’s better to start with the restoration of the Mediterranean squadron.
      1. Al_lexx
        Al_lexx April 28 2014 23: 04
        +1
        IMHO, the Northern Fleet is more important.
        And yes, everything needs to be restored.
  25. Turkir
    Turkir April 28 2014 22: 13
    +4
    Base, base.
    But we had a wiretap there for all telephone conversations all over the east coast of the USA.
    They paid five kopecks = 300 million dollars a year.
    I don’t remember who refused it?
  26. Alex Nick
    Alex Nick April 28 2014 22: 15
    +3
    Someone soon jumps up with their sanctions. I don’t think that in our government cabbage soup is being snapped up.
  27. shaman-25rus
    shaman-25rus April 28 2014 22: 20
    +6
    Cuba ... and again Cuban voices will sound within the walls of Russian universities, and in Cuba, little-headed kids run in. And most importantly: the United States will begin insomnia, alternating with diarrhea ...
  28. Skuto
    Skuto April 28 2014 22: 26
    +2
    Missiles are not needed, but the missile defense system (or rather the radar), why not. Where is the guarantee that Pakistan doesn’t fire a missile at us ?!)))
  29. dr.Bo
    dr.Bo April 28 2014 22: 26
    0
    Alex Nick +1, the base on the site of Guantanamo, and GU-mo in the United States knocked out! in then dance n, indos yyyy lol
    1. Watson J.
      Watson J. April 28 2014 22: 47
      0
      Firstly, Americans pay for Guantanamo, and the Cubans also earn extra money there.
      Secondly, purely so hypothetically, if something happens - immediately there is someone to pile on or take hostages.
      Good idea with Guantanamo, no need to remove it.
  30. Borisych
    Borisych April 28 2014 22: 38
    0
    Mother RUSSIA is reborn, stands up. Wait soon Americans and your sanctions for us to ...
  31. Foxbed
    Foxbed April 28 2014 22: 38
    +5
    Cuba, Argentina, Venezuela ... etc. The deployment of military bases and radar stations. In response to US sanctions by the EU and NATO expansion to the east. This would be the best answer when you are not heard and are not considered ...
  32. homosum20
    homosum20 April 28 2014 22: 46
    +5
    How are the US missiles in Poland different from the Russian missiles in Cuba. And as for the crisis, when we set it up - it’s too late to drink Borzh, when the kidneys fell off. This will be the real answer to the sanctions of America. They worry for their asses differently than they do for Ukraine and the geyropu.
  33. Observer
    Observer April 28 2014 23: 01
    0
    Quote: matRoss
    Khrushchev had already tried to stage it. Everyone knows the result - the Cuban missile crisis. Instead of crazy suggestions, just shout "hurray and give Cuba !!" - you will get pluses ...

    What did not succeed once should not scare off the next attempts. Currently, there is complete hegemony of the United States. You can resign yourself and quietly wait for the United States to gain even greater strength and we will be swept away as Yugoslavia. Another option is to try to resist. From this point of view, getting closer to the US borders means moving from defense to counterattack. I am an introvert by nature - withdrawn and not conflicted, but I feel that I am “cornered”. You must behave with impudent people accordingly, otherwise they will feel their impunity. Life is a struggle! And yet: "Give Cuba"!
    1. matross
      matross April 28 2014 23: 09
      0
      Quote: Observer
      "Give Cuba"!

      Comrade! About "Give Cuba" I'm only "for". And in context, the phrase was addressed to a specific rotten character of the forum. But the discussion is public, hence this storm in a glass of water hi
  34. Giant thought
    Giant thought April 28 2014 23: 05
    0
    Cooperation with Cuba must be developed, especially in the military sphere.
  35. jPilot
    jPilot April 28 2014 23: 14
    +2
    Cuba is our reliable partner against the United States, it is imperative to restore and strengthen relations with them in all areas. Amer will definitely start heartburn from this. But first of all, to put something broadcasting on America there, then they will bequeath, it seems like not weapons, but by value it can even be more effective.
  36. princess
    princess April 28 2014 23: 19
    +1
    It smacks of fried !!! And now they will triple this if our base appears on their outstretched arm. Oh, I will feel fun. Already want to see the reaction)
    1. fif21
      fif21 April 29 2014 04: 53
      0
      Quote: Prinse
      Already want to see the reaction)

      you can see it, but the smell of diarrhea lol
  37. voliador
    voliador April 28 2014 23: 20
    +1
    It is enough to put a modern radio interception station.
    1. ty60
      ty60 April 28 2014 23: 50
      0
      Snowden will tell.
  38. Strong point
    Strong point April 28 2014 23: 25
    +1
    Quote: sub307
    Anyway, it seems to me that Lavrov is not only going to talk about "sausage, rum and ballet" there.

    I agree! - any movement on our part in central America at different levels, and the higher and more often, the better it will help to cool the ardor of presumptuous Yankees. They completely relaxed them ... The whole planet was already drifting.
  39. shelva
    shelva April 28 2014 23: 38
    +1
    Pro-Russian Latin America - a nightmare for Americans, is becoming a reality. Soon they will not be up to Syria and not even to Ukraine.
  40. Mih
    Mih April 28 2014 23: 43
    +1
    Cuba - my love, the island of the dawn of the crimson ...
    Here to place rocket-to-earth rockets there and Biden with Pussics will sit very evenly, at the fifth point. Barbudos are serious guys, and Americans remember the Gulf of Pigs.
  41. Polarfox
    Polarfox April 28 2014 23: 46
    +3
    And I like the behavior of Sergei Lavrov. The Yankees are puffing with all their might to annoy Russia, and Russia is working as if nothing had happened. Lavrov in general is a lump-human creature, no matter how much Kerry danced in front of him, he knows how to stand his ground.

    As for Cuba, it has always been a special place for Russians. My relative worked in the seventies there, told me - they love us there, and in general - the Cubans are very friendly people. And what an unpleasant affront this is for the Yankees, to them Cuba is like a splinter in a soft place. And pricks, and pull in no way.
  42. Mih
    Mih April 28 2014 23: 47
    +1
    Yes, if you put an early detection station on the island, it will be better than any flying AWACS. This is a strong hook.
  43. Arh
    Arh April 28 2014 23: 55
    0
    Right now we will raise all of our !!!)))
  44. Artois
    Artois April 28 2014 23: 57
    +3
    Cuba, then Argentina, Venezuela, the BRICS countries, etc., this must be done
  45. Mih
    Mih April 29 2014 00: 01
    +1
    In Cuba, there is Guantamo, if anyone does not remember. And this is the base of the Amer Navy. There, it seems, the majakhets are being tortured? How to be with her? Throw bottles of rum, the Americans will get ripe ...
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  47. Ajent cho
    Ajent cho April 29 2014 00: 17
    0
    Quote: 1812 1945
    Quote: mirag2
    The Caribbean crisis has nothing to do with it.
    They are closer to us, we are closer to them.
    The Americans are very sensitive to approaching their borders - they are used to the fact that no one can reach them from across the ocean. And here, right next to them, they immediately begin to weaken in their knees ...

    Lavrov's trip to Cuba right now is worth several days of uninterrupted communication with Kerry, Fabius, Sikorsky, Haig and other NATO fagots. (Alas, they did not deserve another "collective image") ) was a betrayal of state interests - high treason. It's time to collect stones.

    Already:
    http://www.nhat-nam.ru/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=1215
    http://www.nhat-nam.ru/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=1294
    http://www.nhat-nam.ru/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=1342
    And so on.
  48. Russian jacket
    Russian jacket April 29 2014 00: 42
    +1
    I wonder what kind of carrots the Cubans are lucky with and what they will bring in return. Waiting for news hi
  49. Glavmec
    Glavmec April 29 2014 01: 17
    +1
    Quote: Saratoga833
    And why should we justify and to whom? I believe that Russia should not report to anyone! Do the States report a lot to us?

    And, by the way, it's time to impose sanctions on amers!
  50. Aleksandr89
    Aleksandr89 April 29 2014 01: 19
    +2
    In winter, Cuba had to hit the road and declare that we agreed on the deployment of missiles. You see the United States would be quieter. We got used to the fact that no one renders any resistance to them, and so they become impudent. But Obama has a Peace Prize, so let him at least work it out by agreeing with Russia to withdraw missiles from Cuba, in exchange for non-interference in Ukraine’s affairs. In my opinion, we began to forget the lessons of history. Only in the face of Nuclear War did the USSR AND the USA begin temporary disarmament and the situation was difficult, but stable until recently. Now you must admit that it is not clear how Obama will behave if Putin does not retreat, and he has nowhere to retreat. Suddenly, the President of the United States had a deuce in history. Aw, people negotiate only with equal strength, and this strength needs to be demonstrated from time to time.