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State Department unmasks Putin

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On the State Department site a document appeared, entitled “The Sequel to Russian Fiction: 10 More False Statements about Ukraine”, which is a collection on the theme of a “false” Kremlin propaganda machine, allegedly punching lies after lie.


The first item of the Russian “false statements” related to “hate propaganda and incitement to violence” in the gosdepovskom list indicates that, according to the Kremlin, there are no Russian agents in Ukraine.

State Department instantly exposes this statement. Proof: the Ukrainian government arrested more than a dozen suspected Russian intelligence agents in recent weeks; many of them were armed during the arrest. On April 12, armed pro-Russian militants seized government buildings, acting quite professionally. The operation was carried out in six cities in eastern Ukraine. Many of its participants had body armor and were armed with such things: “AK-74s and Dragunovs”. Members of the armed forces (not all) wore black and orange St. George ribbons. They called for referenda on secession from Ukraine and for an alliance with Russia. These operations, the US Department of State concludes, are “strikingly similar” to those that were carried out against Ukrainian facilities during Russia's “illegal intervention” in the Crimean situation at the end of February and the subsequent “occupation” of the peninsula.

In the second paragraph, the State Department refutes the statements of Moscow that pro-Russian demonstrations in Ukraine are being organized "only by Ukrainian citizens acting on their own will." Not true! Russian websites openly recruit volunteers and incite violence, according to the State Department. There is evidence that the document says that “many of these so-called“ protesters ”are paid for their participation in violence and unrest.” Hence it is clear that these incidents are not spontaneous events, but rather part of a “well-organized Russian campaign” incited, separatism and sabotage of the Ukrainian state. However, the Ukrainian authorities are working tirelessly: they arrest "highly skilled and well-equipped Russian provocateurs working in the region."

Russia claims that leaders in eastern Ukraine enjoy broad popular support. The fact is, the State Department indicates, that “the overwhelming majority of Donetsk residents (65,7 percent) wants to live in a single Ukraine and reject integration with Russia.” This popular opinion of the State Department learned from a public opinion poll conducted at the end of March by the Donetsk Institute of Social Research and Political Analysis. The pro-Russian demonstrations in the east of Ukraine were rather modest, especially compared to the Maydan protests in the same cities in December, the State Department is confident.

In Russia, they believe that the situation in the east of Ukraine may escalate into a civil war. But after all, if it were not for Russian disinformation, not a provocation and not a “big Russian military force” on the border, there would not be any such situation in the east of Ukraine, the State Department remarks. Yes, a small number of separatists seized several government buildings in Donetsk, Lugansk and Slavyansk, but they do not have “substantial popular support”. OSCE observers reported that these incidents are only local in nature.

The Kremlin is confident that the Ukrainians have created an independent "Donetsk People's Republic". But the State Department has a different point of view. Civil society and non-governmental organizations in Donetsk categorically reject the statement about the "People's Republic". These organizations support the provisional government, the sovereignty and territorial integrity of Ukraine.

Statement number six is ​​considering a Russian statement on the relocation of armed units from the border with Ukraine. According to the State Department, there is no evidence. One battalion? This is not enough! It is estimated that the Russian military 35000-40000 remained along the border, and this is in addition to about the military 25000, which are now in the Crimea, the State Department writes.

In the seventh paragraph, American foreign affairs experts examined a statement from Moscow that ethnic Russians in Ukraine were under threat. The fact that there are no reliable messages, according to the State Department. A survey of the International Republican Institute, promulgated by 5 in April, made it possible to establish that 74% of the Russian-speaking population in the eastern and southern regions of Ukraine believe that they were not pressured and were not threatened "because of their language." But those gentlemen who are real ethnic minorities in Russia, first of all, Ukrainians and Crimean Tatars, and who disagree with Putin’s policies, constitute the real risk group. The OSCE has identified urgent security concerns for minorities, especially ethnic Ukrainians, Crimean Tatars and others. And the Russians, who oppose the “authoritarian regime of Putin,” are also “constantly subjected to persecution.”

Item number 8. The new government of Ukraine is headed by radical nationalists and fascists. However, the Rada has not changed since February, the State Department writes. It even has the party of former President Yanukovich ("Party of Regions")! The new government was elected by an overwhelming majority in parliament, including many members of the former party of Yanukovich, who voted for it. And it, this very government, considers it its duty to protect the rights of all Ukrainians, including in the Crimea.

Moscow claims that the “fascist” government in Kiev is persecuting ethnic minorities. However, the heads of the “Jewish, German, Czech and Hungarian Communities of Ukraine” publicly stated the opposite - they said they felt safe. Moreover, “many groups” of the mentioned minorities fear “to become victims of persecution”, to which Russia, which occupied Crimea, will subject them. OSCE observers confirm: this concern has a basis.

Finally, the final point is the Kremlin’s assertion that Russia does not use either energy resources or trade as weapons against Ukraine. The State Department sees the situation a little differently. After the “annexation and occupation of the Crimea,” Russia for two weeks raised the price of gas for Ukraine by 80%. Moreover, the Kremlin allegedly seeks to receive more than 11 billion of overdue payments. In addition, Moscow still restricts Ukrainian exports to Russia.

Anna Mikhaylenko, whose note was published IA "REGNUM"writes:

“On the statements from this document, most likely, in the near future, all decisions made in Kiev will be built. During the speeches of the de facto President Alexander Turchinov, theses on the artificial nature of popular unrest in the southeast and the like are likely to be repeated many times to substantiate the possibility of using the army to disperse rallies. On our television channels, obviously, they will say with double force that the Russian-speaking population has no problems. Although, for example, I have been repeatedly threatened with physical violence, because I criticize the Kiev authorities in my materials.

The paradox of the whole situation around Ukraine is that since November last year news about us do not go with the editorials of all the world media, although we do not have people dying tens of thousands, as in Syria. We, the citizens of Ukraine, simply once again became the focus of attention, not because of the fact that the powerful of the world really care about the situation with human rights and democracy. And simply because the Ukrainian people have once again become a convenient training ground for working out the newest methods of information warfare. And today, in my deep conviction, is its apotheosis. ”


What to do next, comrades? The answer is clear: to win in the information war.

Once we lost in one big infobit that went on for decades. And they lost the USSR. Today’s battles, although there are incomparably fewer victims in them than in Syria, do not leave the network arena because the State Department has once again clashed with the Kremlin. Ukraine is the most real battlefield for influence in the world of Russia. And propagandists from the State Department will deliver one blow after another. They have a lot of experience in this business.

Observed and translated by Oleg Chuvakin
- especially for topwar.ru
Photos used:
http://www.mk.ru/
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  1. Igor39
    Igor39 April 23 2014 07: 55
    +42
    When will the 20 captured "geese" be shown?
    1. radio operator
      radio operator April 23 2014 08: 08
      +84
      Quote: Igor39
      When will the 20 captured "geese" be shown?

      Why show them?
      Probably already nothing to show. People disassembled them into molecules.
      1. mister2013
        mister2013 April 23 2014 08: 16
        +21
        Five points!!! wink Drawing
      2. mamont5
        mamont5 April 23 2014 08: 56
        +5
        Quote: radio operator
        Why show them?
        Probably already nothing to show. People disassembled them into molecules.


        Oh well, it's not aesthetically pleasing. And come in handy in the game with amer.
        1. DEfindER
          DEfindER April 23 2014 14: 24
          +6
          Quote: mamont5
          Oh well, it's not aesthetically pleasing. And come in handy in the game with amer.

          That's for sure, our professional interrogators for a glass of tea can talk more abruptly than the tormentors in Guantanomo .. With kindness and politeness you can achieve much more than brute force, history has already proved this very recently!
          1. EvgenSuslov
            EvgenSuslov April 24 2014 09: 45
            +4
            Well, here, as in the old saying: "A kind word and a gun can do much more than just a kind word"
    2. Sunjar
      Sunjar April 23 2014 08: 09
      +22
      Quote: Igor39
      When will the 20 captured "geese" be shown?


      If they are alive. And then somewhere in the mine of Donbass they threw it and sprinkled with lime. But a couple would definitely not fit to show. If the mercenaries were captured, they will be shown at the most convenient time for Russia. It’s too early to see, and then on condition that they were captured, and not stomped.
      1. ZU-23
        ZU-23 April 23 2014 08: 41
        +48
        We need to make the "State Department" or "American trolling" show on our television; it will be a serious competitor to the Comedy Club, the number of the audience will beat all ratings smile .
        1. I am proud of Russia
          I am proud of Russia April 24 2014 07: 34
          +2
          ZU-23 (1) RU Yesterday, 08:41 ↑
          We need to make the "State Department" or "American trolling" show on our television, it will be a serious competitor to the "Comedy Club", the audience will beat all ratings smile.

          There are doubts about this ... Garik Bulldog Kharlamov was noted in the list of the 5th column ... request
          1. EvgenSuslov
            EvgenSuslov April 24 2014 09: 47
            +1
            The show is not on ours but on their television. We currently have problems understanding who is bad here.
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      3. matross
        matross April 23 2014 08: 42
        +11
        Quote: Sunjar
        provided that they were captured, not thrown.

        If they had stomped, Brennan would not have looked for them. And about the clash, where 20 geese were eared, infa would have already leaked in any way. So alive, handsome, but will not be presented until the beginning of an active operation in the SE.
        1. vinc
          vinc April 23 2014 12: 41
          +3
          I think, depending on who got it, or even a wet place is left.
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      4. Egoza
        Egoza April 23 2014 09: 35
        +22
        Quote: Sunjar
        And then somewhere in the mine of Donbass they threw it and sprinkled with lime.

        We are not fascists! And you can’t dirty our mines with such rubbish!
        I’m all thinking, isn’t the OSCE mission looking for this 20? And now they still want to maximize the number of observers - up to 500 people! And why will they all be watching? wink
        1. pavel_SPB
          pavel_SPB April 23 2014 11: 36
          +6
          but they will observe how they themselves are caught .... and in the same mine where the other 20 are sitting: ____)))))))
          1. zarya
            zarya April 24 2014 18: 21
            +1
            Quote: pavel_SPB
            but they will observe how they themselves are caught .... and in the same mine where the other 20 are sitting: ____)))))))


            Moreover, "unknown villains" will catch them. wassat
        2. I am proud of Russia
          I am proud of Russia April 24 2014 07: 40
          +3
          I’m all thinking, isn’t the OSCE mission looking for this 20? And now they still want to maximize the number of observers - up to 500 people! And why will they all be watching?


          This is of course a question ??? Because the article says: "... Yes, a small number of separatists seized several government buildings in Donetsk, Lugansk and Slavyansk, but they do not have" significant popular support. " OSCE observers reported that these incidents are only local in nature. "... Now, under the guise of observers, there will certainly be "sent Cossacks" to turn everything inside out and present Russia again as a bloodthirsty monster and aggressor. God! How are they all tired of these amerovskie mongrels. Looks Chernushka really live bored in your country. He would better pay attention to his people, who, in my opinion, do not speak flatteringly about him both as a politician and as a business executive. am
      5. Spnsr
        Spnsr April 23 2014 18: 17
        +1
        Quote: Sunjar
        Quote: Igor39
        When will the 20 captured "geese" be shown?


        If they are alive. And then somewhere in the mine of Donbass they threw it and sprinkled with lime. But a couple would definitely not fit to show. If the mercenaries were captured, they will be shown at the most convenient time for Russia. It’s too early to see, and then on condition that they were captured, and not stomped.

        I generally thought that they were ... in Donbas! they disappeared somehow during
      6. samoletil18
        samoletil18 April 23 2014 21: 25
        +1
        In the information battle with Russia, these 20 contraceptives, if they are alive, are the only trump card. In stock language: recommendation - hold.
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    4. Xergey
      Xergey April 23 2014 11: 18
      +6
      Yesterday they said that as the time comes, see Mamontov’s special report
    5. Nikita_Pilot
      Nikita_Pilot April 23 2014 17: 27
      +2
      Not soon, perhaps we will see them only in court.
    6. Spnsr
      Spnsr April 23 2014 18: 29
      +3
      it seemed to me that Russia is behaving gently with pin.dos.tan.om, due to the fact that not to drive them into a corner, it makes it possible without losing face to smoothly leave Ukraine, or to somehow establish other relations ....
      but somehow pin.dos.y behave defiantly, can’t wait to see what Russia will answer!?!
    7. polite people
      polite people April 23 2014 20: 59
      +1
      They will not say anything. soldier
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    9. WKS
      WKS April 24 2014 12: 09
      +2
      Quote: Igor39
      When will the 20 captured "geese" be shown?

      They have all long since asked for political asylum in Russia, received a view of their living. And they look at Russia 24 in the hostel to them. B. Obama.
    10. AleBors
      AleBors April 25 2014 22: 31
      +1
      Already galvanized and taken to their historical homeland. Infa from witnesses. 100% accurate.
      1. bubalik
        bubalik April 25 2014 22: 50
        0
        Stopudovo? what
  2. serega.fedotov
    serega.fedotov April 23 2014 07: 55
    +17
    It is necessary to replace in the report of the United States: Russia with the United States, and turn back under the title "Report of RUSSIA on the situation in Ukraine and foreign intervention"
    1. radio operator
      radio operator April 23 2014 08: 11
      +61
      Quote: serega.fedotov
      It is necessary to replace in the report of the United States: Russia with the United States, and turn back under the title "Report of RUSSIA on the situation in Ukraine and foreign intervention"

      How did they get our president!
      They contradict themselves, bickering with each other ...
      1. AnaBat
        AnaBat April 23 2014 10: 33
        +12
        I think ours are preparing another surprise to the State Department ... wait and see ... make the Americans think 100 times before meddling on our borders ... we need to teach them a lesson ... yes
        1. pavel_SPB
          pavel_SPB April 23 2014 11: 37
          +9
          the good we have right now the government with brains :))))))
          1. zarya
            zarya April 24 2014 18: 25
            +2
            Quote: pavel_SPB
            the good we have right now the government with brains :))))))


            With brains and eggs! Both are necessary! angry
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        3. siberalt
          siberalt April 23 2014 22: 21
          +2
          The State Department is preparing a "surprise" for itself, without knowing it. And he will get it in full. Well, stupid!
          They thought that Ukraine is not Russian laughing
          Everything spent on recruits will hit those who are recruiting them. It is generally not realistic for usurpers to hold out at least until August-September. And this is at their best. Kiev will run east. There is simply no other.
        4. I am proud of Russia
          I am proud of Russia April 24 2014 07: 53
          +2
          AnaBat SU Yesterday, 10:33 ↑
          I think ours are preparing another surprise to the State Department ... wait and see ... make the Americans think 100 times before meddling on our borders ... we need to teach them a lesson ..

          Yeah. And then they screech like rats, who have stepped on something, so that Russia withdraws its troops from the borders, people in the Southeast disarm, everyone voted unanimously for the junta and disagrees with the unitarity of Ukraine, oh yes they call it freedom and democracy belay you can wait for the 37th year (Turkish prisoners are already building jails) ... And here, NATO will bring its units to the borders, schools will probably be closed by competent people ... until the complete degradation of new ukrov, there’s a bit left wassat and all the complete freedom of ukrov and complete democracy under the NATO cap .... God forbid this in poor real Ukraine where there are still sane people.
          1. zarya
            zarya April 24 2014 18: 27
            +1
            Quote: I am proud of Russia
            God forbid this in poor real Ukraine where there are still sane people.


            Moscow will not allow it, because NATO missiles are not to be hunted by anyone. It is clear that if Ukraine breaks, then this is the end; the question of life and death is shorter, and in all seriousness. Therefore, they will not allow it.
    2. mister2013
      mister2013 April 23 2014 08: 15
      +13
      Totally agree with you! Probably too lazy to think, they took their plan of destabilization and rewrote to Russia. But the OSCE cannot be trusted either - more than once they have rigged the facts. Ours also need to do this.
      1. PPL
        PPL April 23 2014 08: 49
        +13
        Quote: mister2013
        Totally agree with you! Probably too lazy to think, they took their plan of destabilization and rewrote to Russia. But the OSCE cannot be trusted either - more than once they have rigged the facts. Ours also need to do this.

        In no case should one stoop to lies! We are already full of facts and arguments to which America and the EU have nothing to answer. So they "spin" as they can.
        Remember the movie "Brother", there are wonderful words:
        Tell me, American, what is the strength? Is it in the money? So the brother says that in money. You have a lot of money, and why? I think that power is in truth. Whoever is true is stronger. So you deceived someone, you made money. And why, have you become stronger? No, I didn’t. Because the truth is not for you, and the one whom he deceived is the truth behind him. So he is stronger.
      2. Reserve officer
        Reserve officer April 23 2014 13: 24
        +19
        Lying is just not necessary. All this then crawls out and pretty ruins the reputation. But to spit on all their threats is a sacred cause. And from time to time to take lightning-fast steps to defend their interests. And whoever says what - the territory of the "former" (the hand does not rise to write this word) USSR - the sphere of interests of Russia.
        And the States - it's like a yard shit - are being impudent until they feel power.
        1. zarya
          zarya April 24 2014 18: 29
          +1
          Quote: Reserve officer
          It’s just not necessary to lie. All this then creeps out and prettyly spoils the reputation.


          Exactly! Then your honesty can be very effectively used in the information war. Those who are honest and strong cause a storm of sympathy against the background of liars, even if strong (for now).
  3. Semen Semyonitch
    Semen Semyonitch April 23 2014 07: 56
    +30
    So I want to see such a storm on the borders of the United States, and better in Texas or Arizona ...
    1. nokki
      nokki April 23 2014 08: 24
      +16
      Quote: Semyon Semyonich
      Semen Semenych Today, 07: 56
      So I want to see such a storm on the borders of the United States, and better in Texas or Arizona ...


      That's right! Until the Americans get in the snout like a child, all this lies, 3,14 hesitation and provocations will grow like a snowball. We must all understand: there is nowhere to retreat! And they have to grasp this very firmly too! As Dolores Ibarruri once said: "It is better to die while standing than to live on your knees!" In the meantime, they throw mud at us and try to intimidate us. They seem to have forgotten how they got it in their pants during the Cuban missile crisis.
      1. ermolai
        ermolai April 23 2014 13: 38
        +5
        [quote = nokki] [quote = Semyon Semyonitch] Semyon Semyonitch Today, 07:56
        In the meantime, they pour mud on us and try to intimidate us. They apparently forgot how to put on their pants during the Caribbean crisis. [/ Quote]

        so they carefully collected it and now they pour it on us
      2. old man 72
        old man 72 April 24 2014 01: 49
        +2
        And I’ll add from myself and got a snot from a small but spiritually strong Vietnamese people!
    2. kotyara
      kotyara April 23 2014 11: 47
      +4
      There will be a butch in the USA, it is not for nothing that they are preparing!
  4. Validator
    Validator April 23 2014 07: 57
    +49
    Our answer to the State Department is
    1. TUNISIA
      TUNISIA April 23 2014 08: 12
      +5
      Urgently post on the website of the Russian Foreign Ministry! good
      There is one remark: for a better perception, you need to start in the reverse order, from sections 12, 11, 10, etc.
  5. awg75
    awg75 April 23 2014 07: 57
    +3
    why pay attention to the cynical crazy pind @ owls? looked and went on, let them die of anger
  6. Sergg
    Sergg April 23 2014 07: 59
    +31
    USA - forgive me for being rude, like a wretch of world politics. The tone is now set by Russia.
  7. papont64
    papont64 April 23 2014 08: 01
    +5
    What about 20 employees of the American private security company who disappeared in Donetsk in early April ???)))
    1. Bayonet
      Bayonet April 23 2014 09: 02
      +11
      Quote: papont64
      What about 20 employees of an American private security company who disappeared in early April

      According to reliable information from independent sources, disappointed in the policies of the White House, they in full force sided with the Donetsk army. In the near future we intend to use all of our rich combat experience to defeat the Kiev junta!
  8. Grenz
    Grenz April 23 2014 08: 05
    +15
    We agree to run in the information war.
    But any war implies that the forces and means of its conduct are used effectively.
    That is the question. Are all the media owned by the state and defend its interests?
    Or we forgot how Gusinsky and Berezovsky washed our brains through their own TV channels.
    Second question. And the leaders who head our mass media, are they really actively defending the interests of Russia?
    Third question. But do we have a special center (Department of the Central Committee of the CPSU for ideology, Departments for conducting special propaganda in the SA and the KGB of the USSR) responsible and coordinating our information policy? In the USA, for example, the number of TV, magazines and newspapers working for the army exceeds its quantitative composition.
    Separate information operations will never bring victory.
    Not realizing this, we will lose again.
    1. Sunjar
      Sunjar April 23 2014 08: 14
      +9
      Quote: grenz
      That is the question. Are all the media owned by the state and defend its interests?


      Not everyone. Moreover, many media outlets through informal contacts and personal contacts are closed to the USA, Europe, England. So there will be no independent point of view from them.

      Quote: grenz
      Third question. But do we have a special center (Department of the Central Committee of the CPSU for ideology, Special propaganda departments in the SA and the KGB of the USSR) responsible and coordinating our information policy?


      According to the constitution of the Russian Federation, we cannot have ideology at the state level. Everyone decides for himself what he has for his worldview.
      1. sso-xnumx
        sso-xnumx April 23 2014 08: 48
        +2
        Quote: Sunjar
        According to the constitution of the Russian Federation, we cannot have ideology at the state level. Everyone decides for himself what he has for his worldview.


        But in vain! Any state wishing to be independent, self-sufficient and self-sufficient must have an ideology that holds and unites the peoples living in this state! And the internal policy of the state, regardless of who is in power, should be carried out in this direction. There is no need to make distinctions between the nationality of the citizens of the country, but it is necessary that each citizen, if necessary, stand up for the defense of his country, knowing that the country will always stand up for his defense. The USSR was already caught on this and collapsed. Thanks to the chief idiotologist M. Suslov. Nature abhors a vacuum - if the state does not take the main place in the minds of its citizens, this place will be killed by the enemies of this state. The Chinese leadership is well aware of this and does not release its citizens from the CCP's influence. Yes, and in Japan, too, they are not lagging behind, the "bushido code" and the constant groans about the "northern territories" demands for revenge, all this keeps the people in good shape and solidarity. But what happened, for example, in Iraq and Libya, and now is happening in the region, is a visual aid about the cane method of rallying the population living in a certain territory.
      2. demon184
        demon184 April 23 2014 08: 51
        +4
        It is necessary to change the situation, there should be a propaganda department, the United States has all of Hollywood imprisoned for propaganda, in some TV shows even at the end the screensaver was "propaganda" and the face of an American against the background of flying bombers. look in the tv series beverly hills 90210
      3. Grenz
        Grenz April 23 2014 19: 41
        +1
        I would like to note that our Constitution with you, it was in this part that was edited by specialists from the USA. The authors (Burbulis, Shahrai) do not hide this.
        It is not accepted to quote V.I. Lenin, but in this case he is right: "... there is no ideological emptiness. Either ours or the bourgeois ...".
        And then, it’s not a question of ideology itself, but of informational and psychological counteraction to the negative impact of a potential adversary.
        So, without coordination of efforts, a powerful information and propaganda roll-over to our country cannot be overcome.
      4. zarya
        zarya April 24 2014 18: 34
        0
        Quote: Sunjar
        According to the constitution of the Russian Federation, we cannot have ideology at the state level. Everyone decides for himself what he has for his worldview.


        In the U.S. kagbe also. It seems that this does not prevent them from acting as they want.
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    3. dmb
      dmb April 23 2014 11: 44
      +5
      I'll tell you worse. In our country, the Zvezda channel, funded by the Ministry of Defense, makes such a "hunchback" documentary that the State Department doesn't even have to strain. The "star" does everything for him. What is the series about the blockade, what is now about the Battle of Stalingrad, which, along with serious historians, comments on the human rights shabolda. And listen to the offscreen text. The conclusion about our Victory due solely to Hitler's stupidity and "filling up with corpses" suggests itself. All this is explained very simply, if to be objective, then it should be admitted that after the terrible defeat of the 41-42 years, only Soviet society with a completely different type of relationship between people could mobilize and win. Other victories in the conditions of total war are simply not known. And to admit this means to doubt the speeches of the current leaders.
    4. Rostislav
      Rostislav April 23 2014 12: 29
      +3
      A very correct formulation of the question - one must win the information war. No solutions have been proposed yet, but at least the first steps have been taken and some bottlenecks have been identified. It's time to think what to do, so as not to lose again.
  9. mabuta
    mabuta April 23 2014 08: 09
    +10
    All their messages, as well as a test tube from Iraq, will always turn out to be zilch. Information warfare is conducted mainly on their territory. We only have RT, and that is subject to constant provocations. Our weapons are true. Hence the laconicism of our leaders. Every word must be checked before voicing it. But war is war, and we are learning. And so we will win.
  10. PValery53
    PValery53 April 23 2014 08: 10
    +6
    The State Department is boggling. He has already deserved not just a click on the nose, but a powerful kick in the scent! It's time to start fussing in the underbelly of the amers so that they begin to writhe from "inconvenience." And where they are caught on nonsense, make fun of these "scarecrows" all over the world!
  11. Lyton
    Lyton April 23 2014 08: 13
    +2
    The State Department always sees the situation a little differently, their black is white and vice versa.
    1. MBA78
      MBA78 April 23 2014 11: 44
      +4
      it seems as if they were in another dimension ... and soon they will be something like this ...
  12. Bobxnumx
    Bobxnumx April 23 2014 08: 13
    +2
    From impotence to sprinkle at least saliva.
  13. ururu
    ururu April 23 2014 08: 15
    +17
    Vaserman to the heap
  14. mabuta
    mabuta April 23 2014 08: 19
    +7
    The way to wage war on networks (already found here)
    Instructions for the conduct of information wars:
    If you are crushed by the truth, formulate your version of the truth
    If you are pressed by analytics, formulate your version of analytics
    If you are crushed by statistics, formulate your statistics
    If you are crushed by sources of information, contrast your sources of information.
    If you are crushed by history, events and facts, formulate your space of events and facts.
    If you are crushed by the present, crush the past and future
    If you are crushed by experts and expertise, find your experts and contrast your expertise
    If you are crushed by science, crush by the philosophy of science, culture and religion
    If you are crushed by mathematics and physics, crush by metamathematics, the philosophy of mathematics and non-classical logic
    If you are crushed by logic, move on to another type of logic or metalogic
    If you are crushed by economics, crushed by mathematics and Theology, operate on a different type of economic models
    If you are crushed by politics, crush by geopolitics and anthropology
    If you are crushed by democracy, operate on the law of denial of denial
    If you are crushed by systems theory, crush mathematics, logic and philosophy
    If you are crushed by linguistics, crush the philosophy of language and psychology
    If you are crushed by culture, crush by anthropology and religion
    If you are crushed by psychology, crush by anthropology, linguistics and systems theory
    If you are crushed by anthropology, operate on a different type of anthropology or religion.
    If you are crushed by religion, crush theology
    If you are crushed by Divinity, keep quiet with humility
    If you are crushed by silence, pray
    1. anomalocaris
      anomalocaris April 23 2014 16: 19
      +1
      I don’t know how to pray ...
      1. polite people
        polite people April 23 2014 21: 02
        0
        That's not difficult. Just get started.
        1. anomalocaris
          anomalocaris April 24 2014 15: 24
          0
          Although you will be polite twice, praying still will not learn. May my enemies pray.
  15. upasika1918
    upasika1918 April 23 2014 08: 33
    +49
    Are the cookies over? We can toss wafers.
    1. The point
      The point April 23 2014 15: 09
      +8
      Quote: upasika1918
      We can toss wafers.

      ... and treat cheese
    2. Mareman Vasilich
      Mareman Vasilich April 23 2014 15: 20
      0
      Helps to solve both economic and medical issues.
    3. Victor Demchenko
      Victor Demchenko April 23 2014 17: 53
      0
      in the sense of SS-20? then yes!!! good
    4. ittr
      ittr April 24 2014 12: 28
      0
      Who wants to get to America, join the Strategic Missile Forces!
  16. sm00vik
    sm00vik April 23 2014 08: 36
    +5
    Quote: Sunjar
    Quote: Igor39
    When will the 20 captured "geese" be shown?


    If they are alive. And then somewhere in the mine of Donbass they threw it and sprinkled with lime. But a couple would definitely not fit to show. If the mercenaries were captured, they will be shown at the most convenient time for Russia. It’s too early to see, and then on condition that they were captured, and not stomped.



    Yesterday Zheleznyak said that he was "detained" for the time being :)
    1. Sergey7311
      Sergey7311 April 23 2014 08: 41
      +5
      Turn over and send to Texas for the purpose of information propaganda of the population. To organize and implement a referendum on the restoration of historical justice and accession to Mexico.
  17. Roman1970
    Roman1970 April 23 2014 08: 41
    +6
    Evidence: The Ukrainian government has arrested more than a dozen suspected Russian intelligence agents in recent weeks; many of them were armed at the time of their arrest.

    What can I say ... Most likely they are driving bullshit about the arrests. But now I think that, of course, our people are there ... Well, how without it? Only here you must first catch, and then crow the whole world ...
    1. washi
      washi April 23 2014 12: 19
      +5
      Quote: Roman1970
      Evidence: The Ukrainian government has arrested more than a dozen suspected Russian intelligence agents in recent weeks; many of them were armed at the time of their arrest.

      What can I say ... Most likely they are driving bullshit about the arrests. But now I think that, of course, our people are there ... Well, how without it? Only here you must first catch, and then crow the whole world ...

      If ukroSMI is to be believed, then we have no one left in the GRU and the FSB. Everyone was arrested.
  18. Svetovod
    Svetovod April 23 2014 08: 43
    +8
    Ukraine is teeming with Russian agents - we don’t catch anyone, they speak pure Russian. Oh, these Russian spies.
  19. imugn
    imugn April 23 2014 08: 47
    -10%
    The State Department substantiated its findings. It is also necessary to refute them justifiably.
    1. Russ69
      Russ69 April 23 2014 09: 24
      +6
      Quote: imugn
      The State Department substantiated its findings.

      And where is the rationale? Any justification should be based on facts, but they are not in the report of amers ...
    2. yur
      yur April 23 2014 20: 36
      +2
      Quote: imugn
      The State Department substantiated its findings. It is also necessary to refute them justifiably.
      Well, if the scribble on the website of the State Department is justification, then the statements of the President of the Russian Federation are practically the voice of God. Putin said that there are no our specialists in Ukraine, then NO! And for some reason I believe him more. Well, I’m not normal. laughing
  20. Roman1970
    Roman1970 April 23 2014 08: 50
    +5
    The Kremlin is confident that the Ukrainians have created an independent "Donetsk People's Republic". But the State Department has a different point of view. Civil society and non-governmental organizations in Donetsk categorically reject the statement about the "People's Republic". These organizations support the provisional government, the sovereignty and territorial integrity of Ukraine.

    Of course rejected! Organizations mishandled! laughing
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  22. Nitarius
    Nitarius April 23 2014 08: 59
    +9
    let yourself decide!
    WHO WILL DEBT WILL GIVE IT ??
  23. esmiralda
    esmiralda April 23 2014 09: 02
    +13
    USA steers, EU smokes, UN licks
  24. Alex Nick
    Alex Nick April 23 2014 09: 09
    +2
    Whose cow would mumble. With a reputation as liars, they would be silent in a rag.
  25. Not angry
    Not angry April 23 2014 09: 15
    +4
    Quote: Igor39
    When will the 20 captured "geese" be shown?


    Yesterday, the representative of the DPR said that they are now busy with Mamontov’s transfer, they are planting potatoes, they will finish sowing then they will show them. Wait. laughing
  26. Lone wolf
    Lone wolf April 23 2014 09: 18
    +1
    Damn they are not stolen there! We got to the bottom of Putin)))
  27. valentina-makanalina
    valentina-makanalina April 23 2014 09: 20
    +1
    I just want to open the "hunting season" in the State Department!
  28. Espado
    Espado April 23 2014 09: 23
    +3
    The point is that the United States considers itself infallible, so everything that the State Department issues from its paranoid bowels is, in their opinion, an undeniable truth.
    First they say - "we think what is happening Purum-pum-pum", then they read out - "from reliable sources it became known that" Purum-pum-pum "became the cause of tension", then - "we cannot allow" Purum-pum- pum "in the modern world, it threatens everyone", soon - "we have exhausted all peaceful means, but" Purum-pum-pum "continues", necessarily - "Russia supports" Purum-pum-pum "we know it", and finally “Purum-pum-pum must be destroyed.” Curtain.
    1. I am proud of Russia
      I am proud of Russia April 24 2014 11: 52
      0
      This is exactly so !!! What does the Purum-pum-pum all the same and where anyway ... laughing
  29. andj61
    andj61 April 23 2014 09: 24
    +4
    This circus with statements and warnings from the US State Department is simply annoying. Gentlemen, Americans who track opinions on Russian sites, please draw your attention to the quality of the humorous programs from your foreign affairs agency. The jokes are old, hackneyed, humor with a beard. It’s time instead of clowns to release someone else, dogs, for example, or cats, preferably polite and black.
  30. lozh76
    lozh76 April 23 2014 09: 35
    +3
    ATAS Russian Brothers are coming !!!
  31. ed65b
    ed65b April 23 2014 09: 38
    +8
    so what is it about if Nuland agreed to the fact that the participants of the Maidan in Kiev had permission to conduct the Maidan and a lease for the seizure of buildings !!!! That's where insanity rushing without even hiding.
    1. I am proud of Russia
      I am proud of Russia April 24 2014 12: 00
      0
      Listening to this goat, the impression was that she thought up everything on the go, to say that the Nazis and Natsik concluded a contract for the rental of buildings and the legalization of their presence on the Maidan - this is not a dream laughing horror ... gosdepovskie su.schki absolutely scent and fear lost. let them knock in their pin. Dosia and there they swing the rights. am
  32. morpogr
    morpogr April 23 2014 09: 46
    +1
    So brazenly lying to the whole world. Only no one believes the Americans. It is already clear to everyone that instead of Russia, the text should read the United States. The last 20 years, they have clearly demonstrated this Yugoslavia, Iraq, Libya, etc.
  33. federal
    federal April 23 2014 09: 55
    +1
    "What to do next, comrades? The answer is clear: to win the information war." I repeat once again: Whoever owns information owns the world !! It's time to create a military media, and beat the brains!
  34. anfil
    anfil April 23 2014 09: 58
    +4
    Quote: Igor39
    A document appeared on the State Department’s website entitled “The Sequel of Russian Fiction: Another 10 of False Statements about Ukraine” and is a compilation on the subject of a “lying” Kremlin propaganda machine supposedly stamping a lie for a lie.


    Be humorous.
    1. Horst78
      Horst78 April 23 2014 10: 16
      +4
      What rzhachno laughing
      1. Turkir
        Turkir April 23 2014 13: 40
        +3
        Yes, it’s very funny when one Jew paid by other Jews jokes about Putin, what would we forget about the Jewish junta in Ukraine, existing on Jewish money. This is really funny. Even, as you said ...? Rzhachno.
    2. Neo1982
      Neo1982 April 24 2014 08: 08
      0
      "they drive in the parking lot at the grocery store" smile
  35. sledge
    sledge April 23 2014 09: 59
    +6
    It’s time for Vladimir Vladimirovich to think about the dissolution of the State Department. wink
  36. Nikolay74
    Nikolay74 April 23 2014 10: 11
    +1
    Mdma insanity grows stronger and stronger. This is what regular communication with psychotherapists and the regular use of antidepressants bring to. bully
  37. Horst78
    Horst78 April 23 2014 10: 18
    +1
    State Department unmasks Putin
    In my opinion, the State Department has recently learned ofigenski to expose the United States.
  38. solaco
    solaco April 23 2014 10: 36
    +2
    And the Russians, who oppose the "authoritarian Putin regime", are also "constantly subjected to persecution."

    That's all! Now we are waiting for the State Department in Moscow. And who will save the fifth convoy, which is being persecuted !? laughing
    Or vice versa, the fifth column will dig to London for instructions? wassat
  39. cerbuk6155
    cerbuk6155 April 23 2014 10: 46
    +1
    Enemies of the RUSSIAN people still raise their voices. And they don’t want to go through horns. And then quickly break off the horns, for starters, one to walk one-horned. laughing laughing laughing
  40. mackonya
    mackonya April 23 2014 10: 53
    +6
    Well, if the State. dep. considers every person with St. George's ribbons a pro-Russian separatist, then closer to May 9 expect the appearance of such "separatists" in all CIS countries and the former Warsaw Pact countries, and even in the EU and the USA, where many emigrants from the "USSR" attach St. George ribbons.
    1. The point
      The point April 23 2014 15: 12
      +22
      they are everywhere:
      1. Igool
        Igool April 25 2014 02: 12
        -3
        We continue the same topic.
  41. Singularist
    Singularist April 23 2014 10: 57
    +2
    Open source, pind0s presented "strong, irrefutable evidence" of Russian participation. Somehow, conversations in Russian, St. George ribbons, M.F. Kalashnikov and camouflage clothing. Psychiatrists should be sent to them as humanitarian aid.
    1. washi
      washi April 23 2014 12: 21
      +1
      Quote: Specialist
      Open source, pind0s presented "strong, irrefutable evidence" of Russian participation. Somehow, conversations in Russian, St. George ribbons, M.F. Kalashnikov and camouflage clothing. Psychiatrists should be sent to them as humanitarian aid.

      But in the USA, are our agents or frontmen selling AK?
    2. Rostislav
      Rostislav April 23 2014 12: 40
      +1
      Will not help. Complete clinic. Here even Freud could not have done it.
    3. Igool
      Igool April 25 2014 02: 15
      0
      Not true, the main evidence is a beard. They even circled people with beards in the photo, as evidence of the presence of our aircraft. Schizophrenia just resting, urgently need a specialist in lobotomy for the State Department go from ... ov
  42. Polarfox
    Polarfox April 23 2014 11: 00
    0
    Quote: radio operator
    Probably already nothing to show

    I know what can be shown. Only not to us, but to the State Department. repeat Well, you probably guess for yourself what it is.
  43. Polarfox
    Polarfox April 23 2014 11: 07
    +4
    And, by the way, the approval of the State Department is just a statement. And here is the document. For those who do not know English, I’ll explain: this is a screenshot of the Pentagon public procurement website. And on it is an announcement about the purchase of repair and reconstruction services of the Sevastopol Secondary School No. 5 for placement in it of the US Navy engineering base. The tender has been canceled for obvious reasons.
  44. Prapor Afonya
    Prapor Afonya April 23 2014 11: 17
    0
    Quote: Sunjar
    Quote: Igor39
    When will the 20 captured "geese" be shown?


    If they are alive. And then somewhere in the mine of Donbass they threw it and sprinkled with lime. But a couple would definitely not fit to show. If the mercenaries were captured, they will be shown at the most convenient time for Russia. It’s too early to see, and then on condition that they were captured, and not stomped.

    Or in the dungeons of the Lubyanka a little steam, and then show!
  45. mig31
    mig31 April 23 2014 11: 36
    0
    Such insinuations are suitable only for the underdeveloped African tribes, probably from there the USA intelligence !!!
  46. Nikich
    Nikich April 23 2014 11: 40
    0
    Quote: mig31
    Such insinuations are suitable only for the underdeveloped African tribes, probably from there the USA intelligence !!!

    It just once again confirms the double standards of the United States.
  47. goose
    goose April 23 2014 11: 42
    +2
    Quote: Svetovod
    Ukraine is teeming with Russian agents - we don’t catch anyone, they speak pure Russian. Oh, these Russian spies.

    Yeah, in Chelyabinsk the same is everywhere Russian spies.
  48. pensioner
    pensioner April 23 2014 11: 42
    +2
    Thanks Oleg! hi
    Moreover, the Kremlin allegedly seeks to receive more than $ 11 billion of late payments.

    I didn’t catch the essence of this claim. Those. if the payment is past due, then it can not be recovered, or what ?? belay
  49. vadgen
    vadgen April 23 2014 12: 04
    +2
    The fact is, the State Department points out, that "the overwhelming majority of Donetsk residents (65,7 percent) want to live in a united Ukraine and reject the union with Russia"

    It would seem that this is who with two hands should be for the referendum! 65% will vote for a united Ukraine, even in the Donbass, and no Putin is scary. However, for some reason, in the entire history of Ukraine, there have been no referendums on either joining the EU, joining NATO, or cooperation with the Customs Union, we are being called upon to take a word.
  50. Kibl
    Kibl April 23 2014 12: 22
    +1
    But what are these freaks to listen to? They are always white and fluffy, and the rest of the population of the ball in their eyes are potential terrorists and separatists. Only these freaks can wet people without trial anywhere in the world, well, what muck is this your America! am