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A special operation began in Kramatorsk. Fights take place at the airfield

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A special operation began in Kramatorsk. Fights take place at the airfieldEyewitnesses claim four fighters over the city.


In Kramatorsk, Donetsk region, a special operation of the Ukrainian security forces began as part of the anti-terrorism measures announced by the Ukrainian authorities. About it on Tuesday, 15 of April, reports the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine.


“In Kramatorsk, a special operation has begun and continues, conducted by the Ukrainian security forces as part of the anti-terrorism measures announced by Turchinov. The Ukrainian armed forces support it. But the details are not disclosed,” the UNN news agency reports.

As activists of the Antimaydan group report on their page on the social network, at the airfield of Kramatorsk now there is shooting and a fighter is shot down.

In particular, the report noted that four fighters flew over Kramatorsk: "a jet plane, presumably, a Su-27 is circling over an airfield." It is also reported that "aviation opened fire on the Kramatorsk airfield. "

Eyewitnesses noted that there are victims of shooting at the airfield, an ambulance is sent to the scene.
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  1. serega.fedotov
    serega.fedotov April 15 2014 17: 29
    +59
    It is necessary to introduce a no-fly zone!
    1. St Petrov
      St Petrov April 15 2014 17: 32
      +97
      What kind of tin have bros. Putin must be supported. In his interview, he once said that Russia is a country in which only the president is responsible for everything. And I say - I’m ready to take responsibility.

      Hold on, man, tens of thousands of Russian lives depend on your words.

      Unreal responsibility and how well that a sane person took it upon himself in due time
      1. Partizan
        Partizan April 15 2014 18: 01
        -58%
        Yeah, right, let them shoot there, according to FIG, the main thing is to support Putin !!! Well, just an unrealistic responsibility ...
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      2. ankh-andrej
        ankh-andrej April 15 2014 18: 43
        +8
        Putin wanted to look at those people who will shoot at his people. Here, it can already look. The only question is how long will these bridegrooms last?
        1. Predator
          Predator April 15 2014 18: 53
          +4
          They’re already really shooting! The aircraft launched an assault strike, one plane was shot down, 4 defenders were among the defenders! What are we waiting for Putin ?!
          1. free
            free April 15 2014 19: 15
            +4
            pieces of shit bandero yankee, give the president a command, it's time to put everything in its place!
          2. kaluganew
            kaluganew April 15 2014 19: 53
            +2
            Where did the information about the downed plane come from?
            1. avt
              avt April 15 2014 19: 59
              +2
              Quote: kaluganew
              Where did the information about the downed plane come from?

              The turntable was overwhelmed, already the video was posted on the United South-Eastern Front.
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          3. Rider
            Rider April 15 2014 20: 03
            +1
            Quote: Predator
            Already really shoot! Aviation launched an assault strike, one plane was shot down, 4 defenders were among the defenders!

            that's for sure ?
            is there any confirmation?
        2. Deadmen
          Deadmen April 15 2014 19: 30
          +5
          exactly as much as in Ossetia. Unfortunately (but in no other way). When the mass deaths of people begin already in concrete, only then we will answer. I want to make a mistake, but I have a hunch.
      3. basmach
        basmach April 16 2014 20: 55
        0
        Having won the battle for the Crimea, we lost the battle for Ukraine. The question is whether we will win the war for Russia. I would like to remind you that first a certain Putin V.V. will not stop even before the introduction of troops, if necessary to protect the Russian-speaking population. SF gave the go-ahead and carte blanche. A week later, the same "responsible" announced that he would not send any troops anywhere and kept repeating this to this day, although there were already attempts to destroy the Russian population (so far only in the form of self-defense units) and this very population turned to him for With this very GDP, we will lose the war for Russia.
        1. Cynic
          Cynic April 17 2014 10: 08
          0
          Quote: basmach
          And a week later, the same "responsible" announced that he would not send any troops anywhere and kept repeating this to this day

          So it seems they didn’t enter Crimea.
          Quote: basmach
          this very population turns to him for help.

          But how would this population of Russia, in due time, send far, far. And it became independent. What are the claims?
          A state with the population of another state, by definition, cannot interact. Only with state authority or with representatives of popular organizations
          Are there such appeals? At least from the Donetsk Republic?
          Demagogy in the crowd is a terrible thing, but on the forums ...
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    3. Danafxnumx
      Danafxnumx April 15 2014 17: 38
      +18
      Quote: serega.fedotov
      It is necessary to introduce a no-fly zone!

      she herself will soon become flightless ...

      (voice of Lebanon)
      - in Ukraine there are 3 fighter,
      the countdown has begun ...
      1. serohim
        serohim April 15 2014 18: 12
        -39%
        Naive. I served in aviation. There are enough fighters. =))
        1. regsSSSR
          regsSSSR April 15 2014 18: 27
          +33
          Quote: serohim
          Naive. I served in aviation. There are enough fighters. =))


          and there are also enough flyers ready to shoot at their people belay ??
          or you’ll put the right-bearers into the exterminators wassat
          1. nika407
            nika407 April 15 2014 18: 44
            +9
            Quote: regressSSSR
            or you’ll put the right-bearers into the exterminators
            It would be nice if there were no fighters left and law-abductors)
          2. Lelek
            Lelek April 15 2014 18: 45
            +12
            Well, that's a good idea. Just put everyone on the same plane at once, fuel for 15 minutes, and instead of parachutes, backpacks with sand - and go ahead with a song: "... the land has not perished ...". bully
            1. Foxmara
              Foxmara April 15 2014 20: 10
              +1
              an alternative is to shove it into the elevator, close the door and into the megaphone - hto no more ..
          3. Trinity
            Trinity April 15 2014 23: 16
            +1
            RegreSSSR / SEROXIM said only about airplanes, and you, like a leech, immediately cling to it, "How many flyers? How many pravoseks? Okay, I didn't stick with homosexuals. And there is a word fighter, not fighter, learn grammar.
        2. Danafxnumx
          Danafxnumx April 15 2014 18: 33
          +5
          Quote: serohim
          I served in aviation. There are enough fighters. =))

          and how many of them fly?
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov April 15 2014 18: 41
            +12
            Quote: DanaF1
            and how many of them fly?

            Dana, yes this is a computer ace, flies on all kinds of airplanes. Tears the enemy into rags every day.
            Hi love
            1. Danafxnumx
              Danafxnumx April 15 2014 18: 45
              +15
              hi
              yes everything is clear with him smile
              maybe I have paranoia, of course, but ...
              "I served in the aviation" = "I am the officer's daughter" wink
              1. Scoun
                Scoun April 15 2014 18: 54
                +6
                Quote: DanaF1
                "I served in the aviation" = "I am the officer's daughter"

                He could serve there as a bread-slicer, and now he seems to be telling the truth that he served there, but by what he served there he will silently keep silent))))
              2. Foxmara
                Foxmara April 15 2014 20: 11
                +2
                yes yes, "just believe"))
          2. Predator
            Predator April 15 2014 18: 56
            +3
            There were 4 over Kramotorsk, now 3 one landed.
        3. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov April 15 2014 18: 39
          +10
          Quote: serohim
          Naive. I served in aviation.

          Soap floors in the control room laughing
          1. Predator
            Predator April 15 2014 19: 01
            +4
            You hi-hi, and there’s a war in real life! Our people are dying there!
        4. Alexei
          Alexei April 15 2014 19: 28
          +3
          Quote: serohim
          Naive. I served in aviation. There are enough fighters. =))

          What's that with a smiley at the end? This type of tanks and enough, and planes with helicopters, and all kinds of ammunition? So here no one doubts that all this "good" is more than enough to kill civilians who are with Kalash for ten. And even grandmothers who carry shopping bags with food for self-defense will also have enough. But what is there to hide, enough for old people with children.
        5. lexxs101
          lexxs101 April 15 2014 19: 33
          +3
          Quote: serohim
          Naive. I served in aviation. There are enough fighters. =))

          daughter of an officer 50 years old?
        6. Cynic
          Cynic April 17 2014 10: 18
          0
          Quote: serohim
          Naive. I served in aviation. There are enough fighters. =))

          And that the person was bombarded?
          For the truth ?
          Who argues that in Ukraine there are enough fighters? They remained there after the USSR ...
          The man told the truth, but he was bombarded, the forum users are not good!
          Here the thing is _
          In Belbek all Ukrainian planes were in perfect condition until polite people arrived and the planes deteriorated sharply.
          But in Ukraine, while there are no polite people, that’s why all aviation is ideal.
    4. nikcris
      nikcris April 15 2014 17: 39
      +6
      This flyer framed a thousand times! He was not shot down just because they did not want to.
      1. Com T-64a
        Com T-64a April 15 2014 17: 44
        +9
        Nothing !! HELP NEED THEM !!!
        1. free
          free April 15 2014 19: 19
          0
          Quote: Com. T-64
          Nothing !! HELP NEED THEM !!!


          need of course, but how do we help them? Any ideas?
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      3. poplar
        poplar April 15 2014 19: 02
        +1
        Quote: nikcris
        This flyer framed a thousand times! He was not shot down just because they did not want to.


        The guys have almost no weapons!
    5. Kapitan Oleg
      Kapitan Oleg April 15 2014 17: 54
      +10
      "Needles" are urgently needed
      1. polite people
        polite people April 15 2014 18: 02
        +6
        We’ll bring schA. Wait. Will besoldier
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      3. GSH-18
        GSH-18 April 15 2014 18: 48
        +2
        Quote: Kapitan Oleg
        "Needles" are urgently needed

        Needles on modern fighters are not very effective. The fighters have a lot of lotions from them. You need a couple of three normal air defense systems. Carapace or TOR at least .. S-300 would have been normal in general. But the guys in the southwest do not have all of this. Aviation of their concentration rolls into the lungs. We need to help them somehow. If not with weapons, then stop these durogons from Kiev diplomatically, economically, whatever ..
        1. Predator
          Predator April 15 2014 19: 04
          +1
          Isn't it better than the Migov regiment ?!
        2. Turik
          Turik April 15 2014 19: 14
          +4
          If not with weapons, then stop these durogons from Kiev diplomatically, economically, as you like


          Diplomacy is over this morning ...
        3. Alexei
          Alexei April 15 2014 19: 34
          +3
          Quote: GSH-18
          We need to help them somehow. If not with weapons, then stop these durogons from Kiev diplomatically, economically, whatever ..

          It will not be possible to stop them economically, the EU and the USA will throw something (for a holy cause for them) for any.
      4. Predator
        Predator April 15 2014 19: 03
        +6
        Arrows and flies, cornets, PCs, mortars and tanks! Russia's army is needed there!
      5. Foxmara
        Foxmara April 15 2014 20: 13
        +1
        in Slavyansk there are needles. On the eve of a truck with needles and RPGs fell into the hands
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    7. Turik
      Turik April 15 2014 17: 59
      +7
      Maybe not out of place, but it looks like the Kremlin has stirred:

      Press Secretary of the Russian President Dmitry Peskov said that many Russians contacting the call center of the "direct line" of the head of state, which will take place on Thursday, are in favor of more active Russian intervention in the situation in Ukraine, Interfax reports.
      "There are questions about Ukraine from Russian citizens. Many of them believe that more active intervention is needed. But this, I repeat, is the opinion of citizens," Peskov said. So he answered the question of one of the representatives of the media about whether questions related to the Russian troops on the territory of Ukraine were received on the direct line. "Maybe someone asked to send troops or vice versa?" She asked. "People are asking for help, people are asking for intervention, people are asking for protection. There are many such appeals," Peskov said.
      According to him, among the questions of citizens to the President, the most popular topics are those related to what is happening in Ukraine, as well as in Crimea. "This year, judging by the issues, of course, Ukraine and Crimea are concentrating the attention of citizens," said the press secretary of the head of state.
      He said that among the guests of the studio, where President Vladimir Putin will answer questions, there will also be residents of Crimea. As for the duration of the planned event, which traditionally takes several hours, Peskov said: "This is a question that cannot be answered." “It will depend on the president, on the intensity. But we know that this is the format - not for one hour,” he said.



      With officer Site News 24
      http://www.vesti.ru/doc.html?id=1482205&tid=105474
      1. Posya10rus
        Posya10rus April 15 2014 18: 50
        +5
        If he doesn’t take action urgently, how will he look into the eyes of the people? And questions will only be in Ukraine and Crimea. Although, as usual, they will look for a couple of grandmothers with questions about retirement.
    8. Viktor163
      Viktor163 April 15 2014 18: 24
      +1
      And over all of Ukraine
      1. serega.fedotov
        serega.fedotov April 15 2014 18: 40
        +5
        URGENTLY ONE FLYING OFF !!!!!
    9. typhoon7
      typhoon7 April 15 2014 18: 48
      +11
      Guys, we have losses, six were killed at the airport near Kramatorsk, there are wounded. The battle continues, the helicopter landed forever, they will have to help anyway, it seems they are ready to use any weapon.
      1. Scoun
        Scoun April 15 2014 19: 00
        +6
        Quote: typhoon7
        Guys, we have losses, six were killed at the airport near Kramatorsk, there are wounded. The fight goes on

        Quote: grishin040675
        Yes, I’m fighting from Kramatorsk

        Honestly, I sympathize with you and the most lousy thing is that if you didn’t stand up for yourself .. these ushlepki secs will still not give you life and wouldn’t give you (((now, if they say American ushlepki coordinate actions, then they’ll most likely start rolling up in the Stone Age, to destroy power plants, water towers and other infrastructure.
      2. Predator
        Predator April 15 2014 19: 31
        +4
        Hold on! We must help you! I would take the machine myself and become operational with you, there is a lot of experience! But I’m far crying!
    10. COLUN
      COLUN April 15 2014 19: 53
      +5

      there is a helicopter video
      1. ATATA
        ATATA April 15 2014 20: 02
        0
        Quote: COLUN

        there is a helicopter video

        Pleases.
      2. jjj
        jjj April 15 2014 20: 14
        +2
        Chronicle: airplanes are circling in the sky, tanks are walking along village streets. Like in the forty-first. And again, fascism comes
      3. vvp2412
        vvp2412 April 15 2014 20: 21
        0
        He was shot down from MANPADS? Or hit your plane? Or the third version - he caught fire!
        Well, not from a machine gun, but they got him at such a height!
        1. Predator
          Predator April 15 2014 20: 29
          0
          PC armor-piercing incendiary can easily take if the shooter can! From 600-800 meters.
        2. Predator
          Predator April 15 2014 20: 31
          +1
          And the news is almost silent! Waiting for a reaction from the government?! Wait for the explosion of indignation in Russia!
          1. Turik
            Turik April 15 2014 20: 44
            +3
            I would venture to suggest that everyone in the Kremlin is "on the ears" now. In short, the commander-in-chief holds the council.

            At night, the right-wingers should wait for very malicious, but polite guests.
            In the meantime, a video from Transnistria:

      4. ATATA
        ATATA April 15 2014 20: 49
        +2
        Quote: COLUN
        there is a helicopter video

        Only in vain rejoiced. This is where this video comes from.
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BA5-9E7Cj8
      5. voliador
        voliador April 15 2014 23: 00
        0
        This is a shnya. Video from Syria.
  2. 51064
    51064 April 15 2014 17: 30
    +18
    They went crazy in Kiev - they suppress infantry with fighter jets.
    1. mamont5
      mamont5 April 15 2014 17: 31
      +11
      Quote: 51064
      They went crazy in Kiev - they suppress infantry with fighter jets.


      There are no MANPADS on them. Maybe eat? "... at the Kramatorsk airfield there is shooting now and a fighter is shot down."
      1. svetlomor
        svetlomor April 15 2014 17: 35
        +8
        Quote: mamont5
        at the Kramatorsk airfield, shooting is now underway and a fighter is shot down. "

        Why did they need an airfield? Whom are they going to transfer there, "right sector" ?!
        1. svp67
          svp67 April 15 2014 17: 44
          +10
          Quote: svetlomor
          Why did they need an airfield? Whom are they going to transfer there, "right sector" ?!

          We need to see a map of the city. It is possible that the airfield is a key point, from which everything depends on holding ...
          I looked - the airfield is located in the eastern part of the city, on a hill - in short, an excellent springboard, for further operations to clean up the city ...
        2. DEfindER
          DEfindER April 15 2014 17: 48
          +5
          Quote: svetlomor
          Why did they need an airfield?

          Well, how is everything logical, amer’s tactics on the face, bomb the enemy in the Stone Age. Have you read the latest news?

          To coordinate the activities of the Ukrainian government agencies need foreign specialists. This is the conclusion reached in Washington. The FBI, the State Department, and the US Department of Justice sent their specialists from the United States to Ukraine.

          The goal of the American specialists sent to Kiev is to ensure coordination of the activities of the Ukrainian state structures on security issues, law enforcement, internal affairs and international relations, since the Ukrainian leadership was not able to organize this work independently, ITAR-TASS reports.
        3. grishin040675
          grishin040675 April 15 2014 18: 01
          +15
          Yes, I’m fighting from Kramatorsk
        4. grishin040675
          grishin040675 April 15 2014 18: 02
          +1
          Quote: grishin040675
          Yes, I’m fighting from Kramatorsk
          1. KazakPatrol
            KazakPatrol April 15 2014 19: 09
            +1
            So what are you sitting at home? There yours are fighting for you, and you are chatting on the Internet! Are you still waiting for the Russian guys to come and help you? Throw the mouse go fight
            1. ATATA
              ATATA April 15 2014 19: 18
              +8
              Quote: KazakPatrol
              Throw the mouse go fight

              To judge the other, you yourself have to be better.
              1. KazakPatrol
                KazakPatrol April 15 2014 19: 30
                +2
                I am not ashamed of myself, but our boys are not the time to send there!
                1. ATATA
                  ATATA April 15 2014 19: 32
                  +1
                  Quote: KazakPatrol
                  I am not ashamed of myself, but our boys are not the time to send there!

                  Yes!
                  The time will come when civilians will begin to be killed.
                  Let's wait for your mother ...
                2. Predator
                  Predator April 15 2014 19: 46
                  0
                  What the hell ?! Immediately! Let them help you with aviation! Immediately, the brains will fall into place!
    2. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov April 15 2014 17: 32
      +27
      Quote: 51064
      They went crazy in Kiev - they suppress infantry with fighter jets.

      And you doubted that you were crazy in Kiev. There is a psychiatric hospital in full force.
      1. Ased
        Ased April 15 2014 17: 54
        +5
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        And you doubted that you were crazy in Kiev. There is a psychiatric hospital in full force.


        Do you think so? Everything they can is stolen under the guise of
        make political names ...
        I hope that these figures will soon appear in court.
      2. Legionnaire14
        Legionnaire14 April 15 2014 17: 59
        0
        Alexander, you, as always, not in the eyebrow!
      3. Ruslan67
        Ruslan67 April 16 2014 02: 37
        +1
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        .There is a nuthouse in full force.

        There are no doctors or orderlies request Understaffing however laughing
    3. svp67
      svp67 April 15 2014 17: 33
      +10
      Quote: 51064
      They went crazy in Kiev - they suppress infantry with fighter jets.
      just as safer ... And what kind of infantry, there are also many ordinary people WITHOUT WEAPONS. Well, the next stage is a blow with "Grads" or "Tornadoes", so for sure ... Bastards. If the West does not stop them, then Russia will have to do it ...
    4. zzz
      zzz April 15 2014 17: 34
      +6
      Quote: 51064
      They went crazy in Kiev - they suppress infantry with fighter jets.

      So they are fascists !!!!! They forgot how they bombed Kiev - they lost their money and their thirst for power !!!!!!!
      1. Ased
        Ased April 15 2014 17: 38
        +3
        Yes, for whom is there to shoot fighter - attack aircraft? In urban conditions? Probably then they will say that Russian was.
      2. acute
        acute April 15 2014 17: 57
        +11
        Have you forgotten how they fired at 93 tanks in the center of Moscow ?. Yeltsin would never have decided to start this mess without the approval of the United States. They work according to a proven scheme.
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    6. Tamparu
      Tamparu April 15 2014 17: 52
      +11
      Quote: 51064


      They went crazy in Kiev - they suppress infantry with fighter jets.


      The situation was the same in Transnistria, in 1992, when Moldovans bombed the bridge over the Dniester with the help of MiG-29. They didn't have bombers. And on the bridge at that time the civilians left across the Dniester, so as not to get under the "Nazis".
      Probably, Kiev received consultations from Chisinau, at the district ....
  3. ATATA
    ATATA April 15 2014 17: 30
    +9
    This news is already on the censor.
    Apparently it is. We will soon find out the result.
  4. paul72
    paul72 April 15 2014 17: 31
    +6
    Eyewitnesses claim four fighters over the city.

    Ukrovoyaki would have used the bombers.
    Well, the roof went completely Natsik.
    1. Vitaly11
      Vitaly11 April 15 2014 17: 36
      +9
      Eyewitnesses claim four fighters over the city.

      Ukrovoyaki would have used the bombers.
      1. Wedmak
        Wedmak April 15 2014 17: 39
        +6
        Su-25, with PTB and NURS-ami. Also in Karamatorsk?
        1. Vitaly11
          Vitaly11 April 15 2014 17: 48
          +11
          what is available at the airport is not known, but I didn’t go to the steppe today to clarify ... before that no one knew that there were special control systems there, but they flew for a while at EURO 2012 and here you are out of nowhere .. in at the beginning of March, they were transported by cabbage men to the airfield of the SAM-BUK, they say that they are not there at the moment, but personally I did not see that they would be transported somewhere ...

          the photo was taken today .. now it’s quiet in the sky, but I don’t know what’s going on at the airport, again, according to rumors, but not the fact, armored personnel carriers and tanks are going to the airport ...
          1. Vitaly11
            Vitaly11 April 15 2014 18: 00
            +3
            planes hoot again over the airfield ...
            1. Com T-64a
              Com T-64a April 15 2014 18: 18
              +5
              Write, what’s there! MANDATORY WRITE!
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          3. grishin040675
            grishin040675 April 15 2014 18: 04
            +9
            flying su-27 su-25 I'm from Kramatorsk and shooting is heard
      2. GSH-18
        GSH-18 April 15 2014 19: 01
        +1
        Quote: Vitaliy11
        Ukrovoyaki would have used the bombers.

        Su-25, attack aircraft.
        Serious things are already starting ..
      3. Gorinich
        Gorinich April 15 2014 20: 05
        +1
        Be sure to find out the identity of the pilots, by name. Where they serve, where they live, any information that everyone would know.
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    3. acute
      acute April 15 2014 18: 00
      +2
      Read what he writes to the censor. no To kill them in droves, the miners will stand up and kill the oppositionionaries. The bigger, the better
      1. grishin040675
        grishin040675 April 15 2014 18: 22
        +4
        at the moment, the mi-24 is circling over the airfield there are no more dryers
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov April 15 2014 18: 31
          +1
          Quote: grishin040675
          at the moment, the mi-24 is circling over the airfield there are no more dryers

          This is written on the censor ..15.04.14/17/24 20:500 XNUMX armored personnel carriers and XNUMX servicemen of the Ministry of Internal Affairs entered Slavyansk - eyewitnesses
          Can you confirm?
          1. I read the news
            I read the news April 15 2014 19: 22
            +2
            from the operational channel, the equipment did not enter the city at the current time.
        2. Vitaly11
          Vitaly11 April 15 2014 18: 41
          +5
          DRYES fly ... most likely refuel in Raisins ...
  5. W1950
    W1950 April 15 2014 17: 31
    +20
    S.U.K. and all the same have begun. It will be your end.
    1. Sandov
      Sandov April 15 2014 17: 33
      +14
      Quote: W1950
      S.U.K. and all the same have begun. It will be your end.
  6. VengefulRat
    VengefulRat April 15 2014 17: 31
    +30
    Decided tv @ ri all the same ...
    1. Danafxnumx
      Danafxnumx April 15 2014 17: 40
      +5
      Quote: VengefulRat
      Decided tv @ ri all the same ...

      and the director of the CIA, in your opinion, why did he come?

      Avakov pulled, pulled, and he was removed ...
      1. VengefulRat
        VengefulRat April 15 2014 17: 46
        +6
        Quote: DanaF1
        and the director of the CIA, in your opinion, why did he come? Avakov pulled, pulled, pulled him off ...

        Yes, it seems that he drove up the junta dough and bold powder for a war with his own people.
    2. Ulairy
      Ulairy April 15 2014 18: 00
      +4
      They are clearly spurred on. They themselves would not have dared to do anything. Either crush the reptiles right now, burn them all fighters to hell, cordon off airfields, etc., or - the Americans will grab these "special operations" with their teeth in order to ignite the war.
      1. R-118bm3
        R-118bm3 April 15 2014 19: 08
        +4
        Mattresses need an armed conflict between the Slavs. Otherwise, the grandmother to the wind.
      2. free
        free April 15 2014 19: 24
        0
        Quote: Ulairy
        They are clearly spurred on. They themselves would not have dared to do anything. Either crush the reptiles right now, burn them all fighters to hell, cordon off airfields, etc., or - the Americans will grab these "special operations" with their teeth in order to ignite the war.


        we have nuclear missiles for americans, so we need to declare them, the delay in death is like that!
    3. GSH-18
      GSH-18 April 15 2014 19: 05
      +3
      Quote: VengefulRat
      Decided tv @ ri all the same ...

      They have all been decided for a long time. The order came from Washington.
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  8. zzz
    zzz April 15 2014 17: 32
    +7
    Factories in Kramatorsk (for our Strategic Rocket Forces)
    1. GSH-18
      GSH-18 April 15 2014 19: 08
      +1
      Quote: zzz
      Factories in Kramatorsk (for our Strategic Rocket Forces)

      Is it important now ??!
      They are going to kill the civilian population with the help of the army!
      1. Foxmara
        Foxmara April 15 2014 20: 25
        +1
        it’s actually important. perhaps because they are going to there factories? to bomb under the guise of?
  9. Saratovets
    Saratovets April 15 2014 17: 32
    +1
    Now there are helicopters flying, they say 2 pieces of combat
  10. leks
    leks April 15 2014 17: 33
    +6
    Why not ours to make a no-fly zone over the Donbas, our air defense seems to be able to cover the Donbas, the range of the C 300 allows you to do this, or am I wrong !?
    Can anyone tell me if this can be done with our air defense systems?
    Or maybe it is our Air Force that is already making the combat zone no-fly am
    1. Danafxnumx
      Danafxnumx April 15 2014 17: 42
      +5
      Quote: leks
      Or maybe it is our Air Force that is already making the combat zone no-fly

      I also thought about ours at first ... but on the other hand, it’s not so easy to bring down ours ...
      and in Ukraine, a raid on 3-4 hours a year ... relevant experience ...
      1. Posya10rus
        Posya10rus April 15 2014 18: 57
        +2
        Remember August 2008. They beat you down as pretty, even with their air defenses. There were also Bandera operators.
        1. Danafxnumx
          Danafxnumx April 15 2014 19: 22
          0
          Quote: Posya10rus
          Remember August 2008. They beat you down as pretty, even with their air defenses. There were also Bandera operators.

          what? Directly shot down from the machines?

          there were like BUKs, but then they grumbled from the machine gun and landed ...
    2. Sandov
      Sandov April 15 2014 17: 47
      +2
      Quote: leks
      Why not ours to make a no-fly zone over the Donbas, our air defense seems to be able to cover the Donbas, the range of the C 300 allows you to do this, or am I wrong !?
      Can anyone tell me if this can be done with our air defense systems?
      Or maybe it is our Air Force that is already making the combat zone no-fly am

      Elementary.
    3. KazaK Bo
      KazaK Bo April 15 2014 18: 02
      +4
      The S-300 will not help to create a no-fly zone (A VERY VERY NEEDED!) .... C200 could do it (remember how they used to flood a passenger plane over the Black Sea at a distance of over 250 km!) ... These SAMs were in the Sevastopol Zrbrigade at one time .... as now ... I don’t know ...
      That's it, the "scribe" for negotiations in the format of 4 ... which means our "polite people" will join the business!
    4. Horly
      Horly April 15 2014 18: 35
      0
      Only aviation - ZRV will not get
    5. GSH-18
      GSH-18 April 15 2014 19: 10
      +2
      Quote: leks
      our air defense seems to be able to cover the Donbas, the radius of action of the C 300 allows you to do this, or am I wrong !?

      Yes. This is quite possible.
  11. nablydatel
    nablydatel April 15 2014 17: 33
    +5
    If this is a Ukrainian plane, then it does not fly for a long time. Since they threw off all the fuel to the flames. Drained from kyrosin lamps. Drain anyone as much as possible crying
    1. I read the news
      I read the news April 15 2014 18: 14
      +1
      It was NZ in case of war
  12. AleksPol
    AleksPol April 15 2014 17: 33
    +14
    If this is not misinformation, then how will these flyers look people in the eye. For them it is necessary to enter a reward "I shot at my people" People should know their "heroes" by name
    1. Dmitry Ukraine
      Dmitry Ukraine April 15 2014 19: 55
      +1
      To my great sorrow, this is not a misinformation ... I myself saw today these "calls" and attacks of aircraft. There is no exact information on the wounded and the dead yet, but apparently there really was a battle there, and the planes provided fire support.
  13. dimdimich71
    dimdimich71 April 15 2014 17: 33
    +8
    Well, s.s.c.i. asked for your people hand raised filth
  14. Evil Pole
    Evil Pole April 15 2014 17: 33
    +5
    It is strange why Kramatorsk, from Raisins to go on the highway the first Slavyansk. Want to take a ring? I hate these creatures!
    1. Danafxnumx
      Danafxnumx April 15 2014 17: 43
      +4
      Quote: Evil Chorus
      It’s strange why Kramatorsk,

      airport
      1. grishin040675
        grishin040675 April 15 2014 18: 49
        +6
        because in Kramatorsk the military airfield was under the ussr
    2. Dmitry Ukraine
      Dmitry Ukraine April 15 2014 20: 02
      +3
      From Kramatorsk to Slavyansk 12 km (from the airfield, of course, more, but not much). From Izium to Slavyansk - 60 km. The Izyum group, apparently, on the one hand, is blocking the junction of roads leading to the Donbass - there is Mount Kremyanets in Izyum, from this height for tens of kilometers around you can control both the roads and the terrain. On the other hand, it is a "heavy reserve" if Slavyansk cannot be immediately taken from the side of Barvenkovo ​​(from there armored vehicles) and from the side of Kramatorsk (where well-known events take place for control of the airfield, which can also receive large planes).
  15. doc62
    doc62 April 15 2014 17: 35
    +16
    all the end with the whole banderlog. until the last banderlog dies or drowns in the dermis
  16. Horst78
    Horst78 April 15 2014 17: 36
    +5
    TOP, BEECH and С300 to help them
  17. KazakPatrol
    KazakPatrol April 15 2014 17: 36
    +13
    That’s all, the Junta played its role in unleashing the carnage between the Slavs, s.u.ch.i. children
  18. bender8282
    bender8282 April 15 2014 17: 36
    +6
    tolerate brothers, RUSSIA will definitely intervene!
  19. another RUSICH
    another RUSICH April 15 2014 17: 37
    +4
    I wonder how I managed to knock out the plane? It is quite possible that he was "knocked out" by the time and quality of service ...
    1. GSH-18
      GSH-18 April 15 2014 19: 17
      +2
      Along the way, the plane was shot down from a slingshot or a bottle with a cocktail! The brought pravoseki fanned out and accidentally hit their means at hand. lol

      But in general it’s interesting, really, how and with what? Indeed, formally, the southeast has no air defense system and MANPADS.
  20. chastener
    chastener April 15 2014 17: 37
    +2
    At the Kramatorsk airfield, shooting is now underway and a fighter is shot down.(c) One knocked out, three left hi
    1. alone
      alone April 15 2014 18: 13
      +11
      Judging by how the fighter flies, in my opinion conversations about the plane’s landing are unconvincing. I ask the pilots if the pilot knows that he could be knocked out, would he fly so freely? what Although in this world you don’t already know what to believe in. The last 6 months, it’s such a feeling that the world has flatly refused logic.
      request
      1. Predator
        Predator April 15 2014 20: 36
        0
        The news said he was shot on the ground, the rest fell!
  21. kudwar68
    kudwar68 April 15 2014 17: 37
    +4
    There is a circus in Ukraine, but it’s not funny with this news. If it’s not yet another disinformation, it’s stupid of the Kiev junta, but the stupidest decision of the military who performs this, they will become extreme as always!
  22. mig31
    mig31 April 15 2014 17: 37
    +5
    I want to go into battle against ANTANTA ....
  23. semuil
    semuil April 15 2014 17: 38
    0
    Well, at least they stopped sending military equipment to Ukraine. Http://www.interfax-russia.ru/South/special.asp? Id = 491062 & sec = 1724
  24. federal
    federal April 15 2014 17: 38
    +1
    I wonder who and how could bring down a fighter? If the brothers have such systems, then it could not do without our help. Well, well, it is a pity that ukrovoyaki raised their hands on their own people.
  25. 51064
    51064 April 15 2014 17: 39
    +7
    Quote: mamont5
    Quote: 51064
    They went crazy in Kiev - they suppress infantry with fighter jets.


    There are no MANPADS on them. Maybe eat? "... at the Kramatorsk airfield there is shooting now and a fighter is shot down."

    Mlyn, I wrote on Sunday that the forces would regroup and hit a minor object, only they had minuses. They now need at least a small victory to calm down the banderlogs. (((
    Near the Rada, the crowd of maydanites raged.
  26. vladstro
    vladstro April 15 2014 17: 40
    +12
    Now the West is obscuring that everything within the law, creatures in the Holy Week, burn you in hell, and I hope our tickets will be issued.
  27. Giant thought
    Giant thought April 15 2014 17: 40
    +3
    St. bastards! Started the same! They themselves signed a death sentence. The people are sorry. Urgently enter a no-fly zone.
  28. RUSS
    RUSS April 15 2014 17: 42
    +4
    [i] [i] [i]at the airport of Kramatorsk now there is a shooting and loot destroyedonly [/ i]. [i [/ i]] [/ i] [/ i]

    If this is true, then I think the "Kiev scumbags" went for broke, now they have no way back, well, by doing this they only brought their political demise closer and put an end to those who still thought that Ukraine would be united.
  29. 51064
    51064 April 15 2014 17: 42
    +2
    Quote: Spiteful choir
    It is strange why Kramatorsk, from Raisins to go on the highway the first Slavyansk. Want to take a ring? I hate these creatures!

    It’s more convenient to smash in parts, the rebels have less strength. At the military aerodrome of non-combatants, civil
    almost none, it is difficult to indict the junta.
  30. Don
    Don April 15 2014 17: 43
    +2
    Yesterday, Mi-24 and Mi-8 flew over Donetsk with a load. Flew north. Probably they will be used in Slavyansk and Kramatorsk. The junta is completely crazy.
  31. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov April 15 2014 17: 43
    +4
    The junta went for broke .. The beginning of the end! (execute the order of the Washington regional committee ..) Well, the Slavs are coming to a period to dot the "I" ..
  32. surovts.valery
    surovts.valery April 15 2014 17: 44
    +3
    Do not get excited, well, flies and flies. Only here is what he has on the pendants, specialists enlighten, it seems blocks with PCs, I hope they are empty. And in order to get somewhere with them, you really have to try hard, and besides, you also need an airman on the ground. This is in my opinion, far from aviation.
    1. Legionnaire14
      Legionnaire14 April 15 2014 18: 43
      +1
      It is not clear whether the suspension is charged. Only there PCs have not been hanged for a long time) Is it only in Ukraine)
  33. PanzerMAX78
    PanzerMAX78 April 15 2014 17: 44
    +3
    The most nasty thing about all this is what the Yankees sought and it turns out .. The Ukrainians did not want a war, it seems they forced it. These are attacks on Russia and God grant justice and punish the adversaries!
  34. I read the news
    I read the news April 15 2014 17: 45
    +4
    storm like
    1. Com T-64a
      Com T-64a April 15 2014 17: 50
      +7
      Filth !! And WHAT JUNE 22 did not start ???
    2. nikcris
      nikcris April 15 2014 18: 45
      +2
      It doesn't use magnesium - it's not in the download. And with such an attack, he will stumble upon primitive ZSU. And it will be in holes that are not compatible with flight. And having ejected, he will meet with local partisans. The partisans will tell the flyer how their grandfathers "rescued" the pilots from the Junkers shot down over Stalingrad.
      1. Scoun
        Scoun April 15 2014 19: 07
        +4
        Quote: nikcris
        . And catapulted, will meet with local partisans.

        and it may well turn out so that there are US pilots.
        The technique they have and mastered.
        1. Saburo
          Saburo April 15 2014 21: 17
          +1
          Yushchenko sold Flankers in the United States for study and testing. So it’s a very real version.
    3. Kasym
      Kasym April 15 2014 23: 22
      +1
      At 41 seconds, the characteristic sound of a working aircraft gun was heard. Such a crack, listen. I served at an air training ground, so I heard this sound many times. At least very similar.
      Even the author of the video about the fighter says "radioactive", at the very beginning. laughing hi
  35. avt
    avt April 15 2014 17: 45
    +2
    At the expense of the ambulance - infa slipped that the National Guard seized cars in the infectious diseases hospital. Hence the shooting - they could easily jump right up to the block. And the fact that Su 27 was attacked ... Well, it seems they don’t have cars that can work on the ground. or stupidly without looking at the NURSs, if they hung them? Most likely they are just circling for intimidation. So, most likely, the frozen banderlogs from the Nazi guard decided to frolic - portray special forces. Oh no! A new video was posted, there the Su-25 dives.
  36. Arh
    Arh April 15 2014 17: 45
    +2
    The army of Ukraine goes to the side of the Southeast !!!
    1. ATATA
      ATATA April 15 2014 18: 03
      +4
      Quote: Arh
      The army of Ukraine goes to the side of the Southeast !!!

      Is this news or your wishes?
      1. stalkerwalker
        stalkerwalker April 15 2014 19: 47
        +6
        Quote: ATATA
        Quote: Arh
        The army of Ukraine goes to the side of the Southeast !!!
        Is this news or your wishes?

        It is rather a necessity ...
        The army was sent to the border, in the trenches. And behind the backs of army mercenaries destroy those whom the army should protect. If the army does not come to their senses, they will stand on a par with the mercenaries.
        1. ATATA
          ATATA April 15 2014 19: 54
          +1
          Quote: stalkerwalker
          If the army does not come to their senses, they will stand on a par with the mercenaries.

          Ohohohoh ....
          How hard has it become on the site ?! crying
          Why do not you understand that if the Russian Federation does not intervene by force, it will no matter which side the army team of Ukraine, they (banderlog) will win!
          ps And the Russian Federation will "lose".
          In quotation marks because it loses, it is very softly said.
          1. stalkerwalker
            stalkerwalker April 15 2014 20: 00
            +3
            Quote: ATATA
            Ohohohoh ....
            How hard has it become on the site ?!

            And who is easy now? Those guys, or you?
            1. ATATA
              ATATA April 15 2014 20: 07
              0
              Quote: stalkerwalker
              And who is easy now? Those guys, or you?

              No, not those guys, and not me.
              Well, I’m telling you that with slogans (how are you) the easiest way.
              1. stalkerwalker
                stalkerwalker April 15 2014 20: 24
                +2
                Quote: ATATA
                Well, I’m telling you that with slogans (how are you) the easiest way.

                Thanks I got it...
                I don’t suffer from slogans, I don’t call for barricades ...
  37. Tanechka-clever
    Tanechka-clever April 15 2014 17: 46
    +19
    Fighters over a small city is a war against their people. Now the referendum is no longer needed. Now this is a rebellious people who are waging war against the American and Bandera invaders. Since the Americans can help Bandera, Russia is doubly obliged to do it - here - on this EARTH - Native to us - the enemy kills our BROTHERS - and WE - silently - will look at it. Russia do not allow bloodshed - Turchinov and his gangster pack must leave the Donetsk Republic
    1. free
      free April 15 2014 19: 30
      +4
      Quote: Tanya-umunechka
      Fighters over a small city is a war against their people. Now the referendum is no longer needed. Now this is a rebellious people who are waging war against the American and Bandera invaders. Since the Americans can help Bandera, Russia is doubly obliged to do it - here - on this EARTH - Native to us - the enemy kills our BROTHERS - and WE - silently - will look at it. Russia do not allow bloodshed - Turchinov and his gangster pack must leave the Donetsk Republic


      they must die, even if you organize a voluntary corps, your heart bleeds, what a pancake
  38. ya.seliwerstov2013
    ya.seliwerstov2013 April 15 2014 17: 47
    +6
    The Ukrainian army is storming an airfield near the city of Kramatorsk in eastern Ukraine, there are the first wounded among militias, representatives of federalization supporters say.

    “Representatives of the Ukrainian army on an armored personnel carrier drove up to a military airfield between Kramatorsk and Slavyansk. They entered into negotiations with the militias who controlled the airfield. Suddenly, shooting started. Among the militias there are wounded, possibly killed. The rest of the militia blocked the entrances to Kramatorsk and are ready to repel the attack, ”a representative of the Kramatorsk militia told RIA Novosti by telephone.

    9 minutes back
    1. Orik
      Orik April 15 2014 18: 07
      +2
      Quote: ya.seliwerstov2013
      Suddenly, shooting started. Among the militias there are wounded, possibly killed.

      How to give drink, shooting is the handiwork of Natsik. They need blood.
  39. Isk1984
    Isk1984 April 15 2014 17: 48
    +18
    The Pentagon acknowledged that the imitation of a Su-24 attack on a US Navy destroyer had a demoralizing effect on the ship's crew The Pentagon admitted that the imitation of a Su-24 attack on a US Navy destroyer had a demoralizing effect on the ship's crew. 27 members of the destroyer crew submitted their resignation. Commenting on their actions, they said that they did not intend to endanger their lives. The Pentagon on Monday issued a statement claiming that the Russian Su-24 bomber on Saturday flew several times near the USS Donald Cook in the Black Sea and simulated a combat attack on several occasions. Colonel Stephen Warren, a Pentagon spokesman, told Reuter that the Russian bomber flew twelve times at low altitude near the American destroyer. He called these maneuvers frightening and unacceptable, as it demoralizes the ship's personnel and negatively affects the general psychological climate among the military. Warren noted that the destroyer was patrolling the waters in the western Black Sea when the incident occurred. According to him, the ship is now safe in the Romanian port, where it was urgently evacuated. The ship's crew members undergo the necessary procedures with a psychologist to recover from the stress they endured. "Donald Cook" - the third, in a row, the US Navy ship, which has been sent to the Black Sea in recent years. Earlier, the United States had already sent a missile frigate Taylor to the sea, but the ship ran aground off the Black Sea coast of Turkey, which made it unable to continue its mission. According to international naval treaties, American ships cannot stay in the Black Sea for more than 14 days, and exceeding this period gives Russia the legal right to launch a missile attack and destroy these ships, without declaring war on the United States. Knowing about this possibility, the crew members and commanders of American ships naturally worry about their lives. And although the Pentagon has promised to increase the insurance amounts of military personnel from 1 million dollars. up to 3 million dollars, it's all the same, few reassures anyone, since there is little chance of surviving on the high seas and then getting an insurance payment, and a dead person does not need money. As a result, the crew of the "Donald Cook" was forced to sail with a shortage of personnel, and the dismissal of another 27 crew members, which may be followed by others, jeopardizes the further successful implementation of the task.
    1. Afinogen
      Afinogen April 15 2014 17: 57
      +5
      He called these maneuvers intimidating and unacceptable, since this demoralizes the personnel of the ship and negatively affects the general psychological climate among the military personnel. Warren noted that the destroyer patrolled the waters in the west of the Black Sea when the incident occurred. According to him, now the ship is safe in the Romanian port, where it was urgently evacuated. The crew members undergo the necessary procedures with a psychologist to recover from the stress.

      I haven’t laughed like that for a long time, and it’s just that our pilot hooliganized a little. How are they going to fight? laughing laughing
      1. stayer
        stayer April 15 2014 18: 41
        +1
        Crap something 27 people? And nobody really shot this yet?
      2. BYV
        BYV April 15 2014 18: 48
        +10
        Of course, I have a low opinion of p.i.nd.so.sa.kh., but it is more like a duck. It is hard to believe that the vessel has such a low level of moral and psychological preparation. Do not underestimate the enemy, otherwise many members of the forum have a capricious mood. The enemy is strong and dangerous, the more honor to prevail over him.
        1. Sandov
          Sandov April 16 2014 09: 06
          0
          Quote: BYV
          Of course, I have a low opinion of p.i.nd.so.sa.kh., but it is more like a duck. It is hard to believe that the vessel has such a low level of moral and psychological preparation. Do not underestimate the enemy, otherwise many members of the forum have a capricious mood. The enemy is strong and dangerous, the more honor to prevail over him.

          Just the hysteria of these hoopoes - how do Russians allow this to themselves?
    2. Horst78
      Horst78 April 15 2014 18: 51
      -4
      Have fallen am Seriously, did they think that they would scare us with their targets bully
      1. ATATA
        ATATA April 15 2014 19: 21
        +2
        Quote: Horst78
        Have fallen am Seriously, did they think that they would scare us with their targets bully

        Minus only for stupid hatred.
        1. Horst78
          Horst78 April 15 2014 20: 36
          0
          Quote: ATATA
          Minus only for stupid hatred.
          Thank you hi
    3. Pilat2009
      Pilat2009 April 15 2014 19: 02
      0
      Quote: Isk1984
      and exceeding this period gives Russia the legal right to launch a missile attack and destroy these ships, without declaring war on the United States.

      Do not write nonsense. Where did the news come from?
    4. Baloo_bst
      Baloo_bst April 15 2014 19: 06
      +2
      For $ 3 million on the snout, they were supposed to ram our plane with the destroyer.
    5. Foxmara
      Foxmara April 15 2014 20: 39
      0
      "27 members of the destroyer's crew submitted their resignation. Commenting on their actions, they said that they did not intend to endanger their lives."
      I thought that a joke, but no, really about
  40. I am Russian
    I am Russian April 15 2014 17: 49
    +3


    Fighter on Kramatorsk opened fire
    1. Com T-64a
      Com T-64a April 15 2014 17: 54
      +1
      As I started to smoke, I thought that I had caught the "arrow", but no ...
      1. I read the news
        I read the news April 15 2014 18: 07
        0
        Pouring something from the suspensions
      2. tomket
        tomket April 15 2014 20: 01
        +2
        29s smoke in a terrible way, so they are famous and easily recognized
  41. parusnik
    parusnik April 15 2014 17: 52
    +3
    So, pan-ataman, he received moral support from the Washington Regional Committee ... once this happened ..
    1. Irtysh
      Irtysh April 15 2014 19: 23
      0
      Yes, what for support? The CIA received infa that from the airfield in Kramatorsk they will evacuate the captured twenty Amer swamps (GrayStone).

      So began an urgent nudge for the strip. All that scraped together - pulled into one place. Type block the strip, so that the transports would not sit down and take mercenaries to Siberia :)

      And they all sit down, gnaw on seeds and drink beer - they bet on how many sorties there will be enough fuel for Bandera.
      1. ATATA
        ATATA April 15 2014 19: 34
        +4
        Quote: Irtysh
        Yes, what for support? The CIA received infa that from the airfield in Kramatorsk they will evacuate the captured twenty Amer swamps (GrayStone).

        So began an urgent nudge for the strip. All that scraped together - pulled into one place. Type block the strip, so that the transports would not sit down and take mercenaries to Siberia :)

        And they all sit down, gnaw on seeds and drink beer - they bet on how many sorties there will be enough fuel for Bandera.

        To evacuate 20 people, you need 2 helicopters, and they do not need concrete strips.
        When will you start to think with your head before you write nonsense, and not the lower hemispheres?
        Do you have your own source in the CIA to get info from there?
        1. Irtysh
          Irtysh April 15 2014 19: 45
          0
          :) Tell me, please, the reason for such a stir around the airfield with a strip for transporters?

          Stopudovo junta is sure that there Russian transports gathered to boast.
          1. ATATA
            ATATA April 15 2014 19: 57
            0
            Quote: Irtysh
            :) Tell me, please, the reason for such a stir around the airfield with a strip for transporters?

            Stopudovo junta is sure that there Russian transports gathered to boast.

            Sorry of course.
            But judging by your questions, you are from 10 to 15 years old.
            At such a distance from the Russian Federation, no transport is needed there.
            All you need can be transferred where you need turntables !!!!
            Quiet and no noise!
            Can you understand this ?!
            1. Cynic
              Cynic April 15 2014 20: 20
              +1
              Quote: ATATA
              All you need can be transferred where you need turntables !!!!

              You know the list the right ?
              This is so rhetorical, but essentially _ Why is the capture not for oneself, for purely pragmatic purposes?
              By the way, the runway is intended not only for aircraft delivering anything, but also for aircraft exporting something.
              These are the games of the mind.
              1. ATATA
                ATATA April 15 2014 20: 23
                +1
                Quote: Cynic
                By the way, the runway is intended not only for aircraft delivering anything, but also for aircraft exporting something.
                These are the games of the mind
              2. alone
                alone April 15 2014 20: 43
                0
                Quote: Cynic
                By the way, the runway is intended not only for aircraft delivering anything, but also for aircraft exporting something.

                Are the Runways divided for those delivering and exporting? I've never heard of this

        2. alone
          alone April 15 2014 20: 38
          +1
          Quote: ATATA
          To evacuate 20 people, you need 2 helicopters, and they do not need concrete strips.
          When will you start to think with your head before you write nonsense, and not the lower hemispheres?
          Do you have your own source in the CIA to get info from there?

          Why think with your head, Aleksey? It's easier to write nonsense on patriotic heat and earn pluses. Yesterday, one wise guy called the L-39 a shopkeeper’s plane, the other yells about a downed plane today, although the video shows that the pilot is very confident in controlling the plane. it won’t do this if it really feels a threat.
          Once I wrote this and will write it again. Every day, there are fewer and fewer professionals on the site. Their places are occupied by gorlopans, cheers-patriots and outright trolls.
          1. Cynic
            Cynic April 16 2014 13: 27
            0
            Quote: lonely
            . Every day, professionals in the site are becoming less and less. Their places are occupied by gorlopans, cheers-patriots and frank trolls.

            Hmm.
            And it is said after fasting _
            Quote: lonely
            Are the Runways divided for those delivering and exporting? I've never heard of this

            We see what we want to see, everyone sees what he wants. No more and no less.
            Above said _
            Quote: Cynic
            And why is the capture not for oneself, for purely pragmatic purposes?
  42. Signaller
    Signaller April 15 2014 17: 52
    +4
    And now you will understand - why it is impossible to accumulate combustible materials in front of a defense point. Type of tire in front of the building. They will set you on fire from afar and look at how you will be writhing in the smoke. from their own tires. But you won’t see the attack. Durkanuli you. . It is necessary to stand in front, not for. Only one.
    1. Cynic
      Cynic April 15 2014 20: 38
      0
      Quote: Signaller
      But you will not see the attack.

      Do you want to talk about the shelling sectors?
      Marking, sighting of landmarks, mining of tank-dangerous directions, etc.
      Not ?
      The tire barricade is a barrier to unarmed POLICE and a symbol of protest, just.
      Yes, even.
      There has already been discussed how famously on the Maidan burned bronik.
      Discussors did not think that this bronik from about 100 meters could the entire Maidan, in about 15 minutes, from the tower take to pieces?
      I wonder who gave the command to such an extension of the armor _ Killer or Pathological go?
  43. Kornilovets
    Kornilovets April 15 2014 17: 52
    +1
    The bombing of civilians, they are crazy!
    1. asar
      asar April 15 2014 18: 39
      +1
      They’ve gone crazy a long time ago, if he had any shit at all!
  44. Isk1984
    Isk1984 April 15 2014 17: 54
    0
    For some reason I did not understand the su-27 (and in the video it is) it is there for what purpose, that it performs the functions of attack aircraft, or that more logically protects the sky from the appearance of polite planes, or maybe it’s ours that fly, that's how bad the information vacuum
  45. Signaller
    Signaller April 15 2014 17: 54
    +1
    Climb onto the roofs in front of the obstacle. - and you will be lucky. Otherwise, smoky like smelt, then the demand from you will be ZERO,
  46. from punk
    from punk April 15 2014 17: 55
    +2
    my mother is a woman. All the same, they decided to wash themselves with the blood of a stranger. and one of them is still thinking about the elections
  47. tokin1959
    tokin1959 April 15 2014 17: 55
    +3
    inhuman, pilot, how much will you be paid for your "combat" call ???
  48. Russ69
    Russ69 April 15 2014 17: 57
    +5

    TWO FOLLOWERS OF THE FEDERALIZATION WOUNDED AT THE STORM BY UKRAINIAN MILITARY AERODROME IN KRAMATORSK, ATTACK CONTINUES - REPRESENTATIVE OF THE MALITION
    1. Lelek
      Lelek April 15 2014 18: 50
      +2
      Did you see it yourself? Or OBS (one woman said). stop
  49. saag
    saag April 15 2014 17: 57
    +3
    Quote: Isk1984
    The crew members undergo the necessary procedures with a psychologist to recover from the stress

    These are the warriors, even in peacetime they already need a psychologist ...
  50. Polarfox
    Polarfox April 15 2014 17: 59
    +6
    Quote: s-t Petrov
    Putin must be supported.

    True, until the liberals hit in the back.

    Oh, brothers, what's going on! Brother to brother. And they’re not afraid that they will have to answer! God bless the defenders of Kramatorsk!
    1. Russ69
      Russ69 April 15 2014 18: 07
      +7
      Quote: Polarfox
      Oh, brothers, what's going on! Brother to brother.

      Brothers, no more. Sadly, it’s worth admitting, they sold for cookies ....
      1. morprepud
        morprepud April 15 2014 18: 35
        +3
        You are right, the sons of Taras Bulba, grew up together, two brothers ... Ostap patriot and Andrey, who sold himself to the Swedes ...
        1. revnagan
          revnagan April 15 2014 19: 04
          +4
          Quote: morprepud
          Andrew, who sold himself to the Swedes ...

          Lyakham, i.e. to the Poles ...
          1. morprepud
            morprepud April 15 2014 19: 24
            0
            Sorry, old me! Yes, by the way, in the 90s he participated in the export of refugees through neutral waters (the Black Sea) from Georgia ... after an artillery bombardment from Abkhazia, the SU-24 jumped up at night! Twice missile launch and shelling ... the pilot's skill put two rockets on the left and right sides, the shelling is even "cleaner" than a single hit on the board ... The radio operator heard from the pilot's connection with the base how he reported on the full execution of the order ... The pilot is of course (most likely) Russian, God bless him!
      2. from 81
        from 81 April 15 2014 18: 39
        +3
        And by MAY 9 we will SET ALL!)) GDP does not like to endure for a long time and will not! soldier