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Ukraine, losing its pieces, argues about who the true Ukrainian is

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Ukraine, losing its pieces, argues about who the true Ukrainian isSomeone (ts-ss-ss ...) quietly remembered Euromaidan. On the Facebook page of the main site of the “revolution of dignity”, where the obsolete prefix “Euro” falls off the name “Euromaidan”, they posted a timid announcement. «Із-за бездіяльності ваді, centurions із # EuroMaydan'u ask everyone to come back to the Church on 19-00. The stench of vvovayat, scho dostipit patiti bezdіyalnіst law enforcement bodies. "Sotniki to ask," "Sotniki in a respect." Suddenly, the cowardly-reinsurance vocabulary of the thousands of euro-infantiles that went to Euromaidan in order to substitute their shaky ridges under the shield and bring in it cheering Ukraine through the front gate. Directly to the European Union. Instead of triumph - economic disruption, shocked people with shifted notions of dignity, the first pathetic loan in 1 billion from the EU and front-line news from the southeast, flashing the air at the speed of a Morzian. Slavyansk taken. Gorlovka taken. And Kramatorsk taken. Makeevka also taken. Local police went over to the side of residents. Created by the people's army. Established People's Republic.


Networking ladies and hypocritical politicians left out of business in the “fight against“ terrorism ”click through: “Donbass, Heavenly hundreds died for you!”. The one allegedly a hundred, neatly wedged and tamped into a beautiful arithmetic template. She may have been ready for an exciting battling bats. But she definitely didn’t expect that in the name of the revolution, everyone in it would look around in a huff and immediately fall onto the pavement, like a toy in the dash. "My dad killed the regime of the golden toilet."

Taken at random, the targets of the generation, which had another revolution with the next coup. And now her langoliers quietly eat up all the questions hanging in the air and unexplored evidence.

But the "meat" still does not want a gun and grumbles. So you can regard the long post of Irina Gerashchenko, the former Yushchenko’s “our Ukrainian”, and now - the same convinced Klichkov’s “punch”, but still the owner of the enviably serene round face of a person who is not accustomed to something to doubt. The heroine rode through the military units and was horrified. It turns out that soldiers mobilized in troubled times did not appreciate the honor that they had been rendered. Instead of kirzachami trampling the fragments of mining helmets into the ground, they, you see, grumble. Long история wars and conquests proved long ago that soldiers grumble when a seditious thought creeps into their foreheads, crowned with all sorts of different coats of arms: who am I in this war, who am I fighting with and what for my family, why my commander-in-chief is such a scoundrel.

«Recently, I have been meeting a lot with the mobilized military. So, 90% of their questions are not about tactics and plans to defend Ukraine, not the strategy of upholding Ukraine, not buying new equipment and weapons, not fostering patriotism, but only money-money-money. You lowered your pension by 10%, you didn’t pay us 10 mobilization days in March, we have beggarly salaries ”- complains Irka- "punch". “Our 20 army has not fought with anyone for years and spent time mainly in military camps and offices, and not on the parade ground, our so-called political instructors, even now at a meeting with the people's deputy, do not raise the mobilized spirit, but nostalgic for the salary lieutenant in the USSR.

“Udarka” cannot understand why at a meeting with the brilliantly clamored “people's deputy” who has been warming himself for many years in the hall of parliament and receiving a salary several times higher than the teaching staff, the soldiers do not show off, look gloomily and talk about debits credits. To try to get into these greedy soldiers' souls is no use. Look tin. Comb it. But the stubborn girl who has assumed the role of stimulating the morale of the motherland, is not going to retreat - the battle is lost, but not the war. With her familiar, clean Facebook audience she explains what Ukraine is and what a true Ukrainian is.

"...After all, Ukraine is not only a hryvnia, but also a territory, our land, culture, language, our principles. Today we need to foster patriotism, explain that in a state of war we must tighten our belts, protect the land and be proud of it. Every day, you need to ask yourself the question: what have I done for Ukraine today? Not Turchinov, Yatsenyuk, Klitschko, Poroshenko, Tymoshenko, but it was me! The understanding of their mission, the sacrifice and social responsibility of everyone today is very necessary. ” In the postscript Gerashchenko casually adds that “Power must be more professional and decisive. And tomorrow I will go to Cherkasy region, to the military ”.

To whom the “people's deputy” asks the question “what have I done for Ukraine today?”. Probably, doctors who, for a humiliating salary, help new Ukrainians to be born, so that in seven years, semi-literate rural teachers for humiliating salaries teach these Ukrainians about patriotism, social responsibility and civic dignity.

The supreme supreme leader of potential deserters Turchinov is also concerned about social and civil responsibility. He signed a secret decree on the start of a large-scale anti-terrorist operation involving the Ukrainian armed forces. And at the same time gave birth to two fateful "message."

In the first did not rule out the possibility of holding a referendum on May 25, in which, in his opinion, the people "Will speak in favor of an indivisible, independent, democratic and unitary Ukraine". In a month and a half, one can prepare for a referendum - but a lip one, just like unplanned no-presidential elections, in haste and with a nonexistent comprehensive legislative base.

In the second, he expressed a desire to conduct an anti-terrorist operation in the Ukrainian east not only with his own internal forces, but jointly with the UN peacekeeping forces. “We do not object and welcome, if with your help a joint anti-terrorist operation in the East is carried out. Then the experts and observers themselves will be able to confirm the legitimacy and legitimacy of our actions. ”, - proposed Turchinov to UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon.

Paranoia. Turchinov does not trust temporary supporters, sponsors, himself, his angel on his right shoulder and his line on the left.

First Deputy Prime Minister Yarema also reinsured, saying that as a result of anti-terrorist operations during the release of buildings and hostages "terrorists " can kill "Someone from elderly people in order to cause outrage of the population." According to Yarema, women who are living with a human shield in front of the barricades need to be talked about with zombies on Russian TV, they need to be persuaded. And this is what the "special forces" are doing. “People are offended, they watched Russian channels and now they believe that only Russia will save them. In Ukraine, the junta, and the one who speaks Ukrainian-a fascist. People have only such rhetoric, and no longer perceive anything ", - unconsciously contradicts the Turchinov belief in the single people of Yarem.

Tymoshenko, who had just been rehabilitated by the Supreme Court in the “gas” case and inspired by the night session of the UN Security Council angels, also calls for an all-Ukrainian mobilization and a large-scale anti-terrorist operation. Aggressively calls, bloodthirsty, not caring about the collateral sacrifices of these poorly staged theater wars. "I also ask the world’s leaders for direct military assistance to the Ukrainian people, who are fighting for their freedom, who are dying for this freedom. ”. They called terrorists armed “Easterners” at the Security Council, get into the general body of responsibility, this woman wants to impress.

Ukraine is shared What does a “peresichny” person think, sitting in the kitchen of their Slavic or Makeevka apartment, reading the irresponsible statements of people among whom there are presidential candidates? What is the principle of choosing? Uses the last refuge in meaningless dilemmas: “out of two evils”?

Even the most recent, non-militant, soft-bodied and indifferent man in the street begins to understand something. For him, impersonalized by the politicians of one hundredth of the ordinary Ukrainian, and not the “heavenly” hundreds, the worst thing is uncontrollable hypocrisy and cynicism, instantly crushing his private, economic, social security. People do not unite in states so that states drink blood from them, solemnly leading by the nose at every step. When hypocritical calls for “save the homeland” see only plump snouts, which pop up under any circumstances, I want to finally give them complete freedom of action.

After all, they so sought it all these years.

Curtain, gentlemen!
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  1. Very old
    Very old April 15 2014 20: 26
    +57
    SATISFIED!

    I am Valka Old very - true! Half Ukrainian, half Russian with a Belarusian surname -

    It is I - the real one.
    Father bequeathed - the Zapadents are NON-PEOPLE, we were going west, and they were in our backs. REMEMBER, son.
    1. mountaineer
      mountaineer April 15 2014 20: 41
      +30
      all right zapadentsy chose their way !!!!
      1. I do not care
        I do not care April 15 2014 20: 57
        +16
        Quote: climber
        It is I - the real one.


        my surname is Pilipenko, in the History of Ukraine and the Union with her there were heroes and traitors

        but I know for sure that among the 11 children of my grandmother now there are no fascist traitors for sure.
        1. mountaineer
          mountaineer April 15 2014 21: 04
          +4
          I do not care
          (2)
          for me there are no divisions into Ukrainian and Russian !!!! this is one people !!!
          1. Vitaly Anisimov
            Vitaly Anisimov April 15 2014 21: 13
            +14
            How many bitches in Ukraine ....
            Klitschko, Ruslana, Yatsenyuk,
            Bandera, Yarosh, Tyagnibok .....
            Ready to pull the trigger!
            They can shoot only in the back
            They will kill Ukraine!
            Then surrender to the Americans
            And other western "zats"
            15.04.2014 20:09
            ,
            1. shasherin_pavel
              shasherin_pavel April 15 2014 21: 55
              +8
              They can shoot only in the back
              and they are killing Ukraine
              Then they will hand it over to the "zaslanets"
              And other Western zas "antsam.

              No offense ... but it seems more direct and honest.
            2. ASASHOKA
              ASASHOKA April 15 2014 22: 31
              +5
              Yanukovych could do so much good for his presidency! But this "k-o-z-e-l" can only bleat into the microphone, having escaped to Russia. If only southeastern Ukraine headed, would consolidate them. No, no! Obos'ratushki are perekhatushki.
              1. GRune
                GRune April 16 2014 09: 13
                0
                In fact, Yanukovych, his relatives and a gang of hangers-on, piled a huge pile of firewood on the Maidan, to which the Americans and geyropeytsy brought the torch. On this fire, Ukraine is now dying!
            3. Predator
              Predator April 15 2014 22: 44
              +2
              And we always stood face
              Fascists in the ass, we e..li,
              We’ll put their trunk in the ass again,
              Then forget about Europe!
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          3. I do not care
            I do not care April 15 2014 21: 17
            +2
            YES. I was in the Union, I do not argue, 23 of the year passed and two generations (soon) will grow
            let's say directly, by other people. How will you share?
            1. polite people
              polite people April 16 2014 02: 31
              +4
              APPEAL TO THE GUYS WHO GRAVED THE ADMINISTRATION

              GUYS! What are you waiting for? Attacks? Why are you capturing them ?! We select the people's governor of the region. We send Yanukovych for confirmation. This is the only way he can help so far. Aksyonov in the Crimea, he approved. Only the president has the right to approve governors. Will sign! At the head of the governor, we appoint the main ones in the referendum - finance, organization, printing, rental of premises, caretakers. A legitimate governor takes money from the budget and holds a referendum. Only in case of an attack on the LEGITIMATE governor can Russia help. CONDUCT REFERENDUM. Do not demand a referendum from Kiev. You already decide whether you recognize them or not. If not, then what do you require of them?

              Sincerely, Lyudmila Merkulova
              coordinator
              Artyomovsk-ANTIMAYDAN
            2. polite people
              polite people April 16 2014 02: 31
              +4
              APPEAL TO THE GUYS WHO GRAVED THE ADMINISTRATION

              GUYS! What are you waiting for? Attacks? Why are you capturing them ?! We select the people's governor of the region. We send Yanukovych for confirmation. This is the only way he can help so far. Aksyonov in the Crimea, he approved. Only the president has the right to approve governors. Will sign! At the head of the governor, we appoint the main ones in the referendum - finance, organization, printing, rental of premises, caretakers. A legitimate governor takes money from the budget and holds a referendum. Only in case of an attack on the LEGITIMATE governor can Russia help. CONDUCT REFERENDUM. Do not demand a referendum from Kiev. You already decide whether you recognize them or not. If not, then what do you require of them?

              Sincerely, Lyudmila Merkulova
              coordinator
              Artyomovsk-ANTIMAYDAN
              1. Polarfox
                Polarfox April 16 2014 16: 04
                0
                Scattered on the networks, thanks.
          4. ASASHOKA
            ASASHOKA April 15 2014 22: 19
            +1
            So the "CTO" began. Especially I give in quotes, for understanding, tk. - this is a delusional and crazy idea of ​​the Kiev may-yes-no power. Finally, it is necessary to understand who you (I) are in this war, with whom you (I) are fighting (s) and for what, what will remain for your (my) family, why your (my) commander-in-chief is such a scoundrel!
            Poking a finger and talking - they are to blame, not enough to understand the situation. Flush with malice and solve the problem will not work!
          5. Predator
            Predator April 15 2014 22: 39
            0
            Well, yes, the Slavs!
        2. GRune
          GRune April 16 2014 09: 10
          0
          Do you and 11 children support those who decided to shoot in Donbass ?? If so, then traitors for the people living there, if not, then traitors for the Khuntyat, if neither one nor the other, then traitors for everyone! There are no "traitors" during the civil war, all "traitors" for the other side!
    2. Predator
      Predator April 15 2014 22: 37
      +4
      My great-great-grandfather from Sich, great-grandfather from Seven Rivers (all Cossacks), a bribe from St. Petersburg (Countess Chernova), my father is already from Uzbekistan, my mother from Kazakhstan is interesting, and who am I ?!
      1. KGDU10
        KGDU10 April 15 2014 23: 36
        +4
        Well, what is there to think - a purebred Rusak!
      2. Semen Semyonitch
        Semen Semyonitch April 16 2014 02: 41
        0
        Quote: Predator
        My great-great-grandfather from Sich, great-grandfather from Seven Rivers (all Cossacks), a bribe from St. Petersburg (Countess Chernova), my father is already from Uzbekistan, my mother from Kazakhstan is interesting, and who am I ?!

        ...Predator laughing
      3. Polarfox
        Polarfox April 16 2014 16: 06
        0
        Quote: Predator
        interesting, but who am I ?!

        Somebody. Hammer, comrade! Who cares who our ancestors were, we are still Russian.
    3. gav6757
      gav6757 April 16 2014 00: 40
      +3
      I am a real Ukrainian! And my children - if you want! My last name is Gavrilenko, purely Ukrainian. The clan went from Poltava, the grandfather was repressed and did not return to Ukraine. Then the war. He, like all normal ones, defended his homeland, and from Bandera and Vlasov too! And, what, are our family smaller Ukrainians than Tyagnizhopy or Yaycepuki?
      Well, not like that!
      This litter is ovsko - gay European, to Ukraine and its people are not related !!!
      IN THE FUNNY OF ALL SURVIVING EUROMAIN DESTINED, GOET!
      1. PATTIY
        PATTIY April 16 2014 09: 14
        0
        And I have never had Ukrainians in my family. We have a number of Udmurts, Bashkirs, Tatars, Mari. When you go by car, Moscow-Yekaterinburg on the radio speak the language of the republic which you are moving. Languages ​​are very different by ear it is very funny. We have always lived and live together - together.
        Ukrainians, do not start a war. The US pits you, only they benefit from war.
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  3. dmitrij.blyuz
    dmitrij.blyuz April 15 2014 20: 28
    -11%
    Not tired of Ukraine yet? Then the Yak-130 crashed, and we have been sucking Ukraine for a month. Let’s go back to our reality! What about the crew? Why did the plane crash? These are problems. Ukraine will collapse. It’s necessary to worry about yourself.
    1. SHILO
      SHILO April 15 2014 20: 42
      +22
      Quote: dmitrij.blyuz
      Then the Yak-130 crashed,


      Well, why not discuss this in an article about a crashed plane or any other article about aviation? Why should this phrase be beaten out under an article about urcaine? Tired of it? Do not read.

      And Ukraine. Ukraine is actually not about us. We are cannon fodder and small fry, a buffer zone created for you and about you. Remember that. hi
      1. Very old
        Very old April 15 2014 20: 53
        +5
        About what ?
        We are not MEAT
        We are not cannon - Explain yourself, Konstantin
        Place ... over I
        1. SHILO
          SHILO April 15 2014 21: 10
          +3
          Quote: Old very
          About what ?
          We are not MEAT
          We are not cannon - Explain yourself, Konstantin
          Place ... over I


          Valentine, how would it be easier for you to explain what
          Well, actually I'm in the geopolitical sense. Brzezinski there, that-sho.
          1. sv68
            sv68 April 15 2014 21: 21
            +5
            comrade sewed in Bzierzynski has long cried a hangman. and we and you PEOPLE
            1. Vadim12
              Vadim12 April 15 2014 21: 47
              +2
              Brzezinski will soon die. I’ll wash it!
              1. ASASHOKA
                ASASHOKA April 15 2014 22: 25
                0
                Brzezinski provides several private clinics. For a long time it will spoil the air.
                1. Semen Semyonitch
                  Semen Semyonitch April 16 2014 02: 46
                  +1
                  Quote: ASASHOKA
                  Brzezinski provides several private clinics. For a long time it will spoil the air.


                  More than measured, will not live ...
              2. Net
                Net April 15 2014 23: 11
                +3
                And when Hunchback dies, I don’t even know, they will begin to salute
                1. Semen Semyonitch
                  Semen Semyonitch April 16 2014 02: 47
                  +1
                  Quote: Netto
                  And when Hunchback dies, I don’t even know, they will begin to salute


                  Each fruit has its own time ...
                  1. PATTIY
                    PATTIY April 16 2014 09: 20
                    0
                    Quote: Semyon Semyonich
                    Each fruit has its own time ...

                    so it is so! But let him know now: HE SELLED THE MOTHERLAND.
                    And for that he received the Nobel Prize.
      2. dmitriygorshkov
        dmitriygorshkov April 15 2014 20: 58
        +2
        Quote: SHILO
        And Ukraine. Ukraine is actually not about us. We are cannon fodder and small fry, a buffer zone created for you and about you. Remember that.

        Yes, we remember that, but you seem to blame it on us?
        1. Maverick78
          Maverick78 April 15 2014 22: 33
          +4
          No, we do not blame. Just know, remember and hold on.
          1. PATTIY
            PATTIY April 16 2014 10: 00
            0
            Quote: Maverick78
            No, we do not blame. Just know, remember and hold on.

            This is glorious, Mr. Good! Is it Russia’s fault that in Z-Ukraine 20 years of extremist camps were grown. The fact that after the football championship Ukraine completely opened its borders to everyone. Thus, encouraging different "funds", so different "giving gifts from Danaans" got into the habit. Ukraine wanted to join the EU - OK! Gas at world prices and everything else. Crimea fled. Now Southeast - also wants to run away.
            Look - in the EU rallies with the dispersal of police and the burning of EU flags.
            So far from good there.
      3. thrower
        thrower April 15 2014 21: 21
        +1
        under an article about urkainu?

        From Pelevin? If so, then evil is very.
        1. SHILO
          SHILO April 15 2014 21: 36
          +1
          Quote: thrower
          From Pelevin? If yes, then evil is very


          From Konstantin Kupriyanov smile hi
      4. Wellych
        Wellych April 15 2014 21: 58
        +1
        We are cannon fodder and small fry

        Sorry brother, but it’s not.
      5. shasherin_pavel
        shasherin_pavel April 15 2014 21: 59
        +3
        When I write Ukraine, I mean the people from whom many glorious Russian and Soviet sons of our Motherland came out. Maybe we are in different apartments, but in the same house.
    2. gfs84
      gfs84 April 15 2014 20: 51
      +4
      What about the crew? Why did the plane crash?


      Here's what I read ...

      The training aircraft Yak-130 crashed near Astrakhan due to equipment failure. About this agency "Interfax" said a source familiar with the situation. “The crash occurred during the approach. At a distance of about 20 km from the runway, the Yak-130 lost control. Pilots at the command of the flight director ejected. One of them died. According to the report of the second pilot, the disaster occurred due to a failure of equipment", - said the interlocutor of the agency. According to him, both pilots are from the Borisoglebsk Air Force Center.


      http://www.kommersant.ru/doc/2453389
      1. dmitrij.blyuz
        dmitrij.blyuz April 15 2014 21: 30
        +1
        Oh, sorry. All the same guy died. And so praised the car ...
        1. shasherin_pavel
          shasherin_pavel April 15 2014 22: 06
          +3
          If the witch from the broomstick falls after the coven, then the broom is not to blame. There are many reasons, but the main one is the human factor. Is MiG - 15 easily entered the series, the same Su 24 claimed the lives of ten crews. Several crews died on the An-2 until they realized that it does not tolerate the shift of the center of gravity to the tail: incorrect placement of the cargo. Do not rush to blame the plane until it becomes history.
          1. sso-xnumx
            sso-xnumx April 16 2014 01: 25
            0
            sso-250659 RU April 4, 2014 19:55 | The father of transport aviation. Oleg Konstantinovich Antonov
            The beauty and pride of the BTA Air Force of the USSR and Russia - Antonov cars !!!
            Powerful, beautiful, reliable !!! Real aerial laborers, like MAZ among trucks.
            Yes, there were accidents. But not because of the design features. I have a friend, was the commander of the An-12, from his words there can be no more reliable machine. As a rule, the main cause of flight accidents is violation of safety rules, pilot error, weather conditions.
            And the pilots called them with respect and warmth-ANTONY! Cars of other designers on the accepted abbreviations.
            The above is a quote.
            The test pilot does everything possible impossible to return the car to the airport. The average pilot acts according to the instructions. No need to blame the guys, they probably did everything they could, but experience, skills and instinct come over the years. They weren’t enough. He rest in peace !!!!
          2. dmitrij.blyuz
            dmitrij.blyuz April 16 2014 19: 52
            0
            Regarding the An-2, only an illiterate person could place the cargo in the fuselage so as to disrupt the alignment. There were cases, I know. But the crew had to control this. They simply relied on the reliability of the car and the short flight.
      2. Very old
        Very old April 15 2014 21: 32
        0
        New car
    3. 1812 1945
      1812 1945 April 15 2014 21: 22
      +8
      It's not about Ukraine! Even that insignificant sovereignty, which she had, she completely lost in late February. And not about zapadentsev even. If we talk about the ideological followers of Bandera, and not about zombie idiots, then there are not so many of them. In the context of modern combat, using modern technical means, weapons in the hands of professionals, Bandera Natsik is not a topic that should be paid so much attention ... But the fact is that Ukraine (the former) is a territory occupied by a strategic adversary - the USA, NATO. The purpose of the occupation? More than clear! In fact, this is an attack on Russia.
      1. I do not care
        I do not care April 15 2014 21: 38
        0
        Quote: 1812 1945
        this is an attack on Russia.

        need to find suckers, who, living on the border with Russia
        will fight with her on their own initiative
        Glory to the heroes!
        Loham - honor!
      2. PATTIY
        PATTIY April 16 2014 09: 35
        0
        The United States never fights on its territory. Too sapid state. Therefore, it is Ukraine.
        Quote: 1812 1945
        In fact, this is an attack on Russia.

        The EU is thinking in vain to sit in a cozy Europe. If such a booze goes, everything will get stuck. Silence will not work.
    4. Very old
      Very old April 15 2014 21: 43
      0
      New car

      Investigate
  4. kocclissi
    kocclissi April 15 2014 20: 28
    +4
    Awareness will come! It cannot but come .... and the USSR will return!
    1. shasherin_pavel
      shasherin_pavel April 15 2014 22: 11
      +2
      You cannot enter the same river twice. Maybe it will be the Union, but not the Soviet Republics. And never in the same lineup. I would rather believe that Turkey will join this Union, than Asia will return back, since in every Asian ruler there is a "bai".
      1. wasjasibirjac
        wasjasibirjac April 16 2014 07: 27
        0
        Quote: shasherin_pavel
        I would rather believe that Turkey will join this Union, than Asia will return back, since in every Asian ruler there is a "bai".

        to whom one must say "bye-bye", and put to sleep. Forever...
    2. maximus235
      maximus235 April 15 2014 22: 40
      +4
      The USSR is not needed, Great Russia is needed
      1. alexng
        alexng April 15 2014 23: 53
        +1
        And the trident seems to have come. It's time to collect stones.
  5. Chifka
    Chifka April 15 2014 20: 29
    +13
    The leader is needed in the southeast. Unified and indisputable. One real leader can now rally, organize and taunt banderlogs on .... (censorship) let's say politely, in the face.
    There is no leader. Ukraine did not give birth to such a thing. Therefore, they appeal to Putin, who will come and solve all their problems at once for them. At the cost of the life of Russian soldiers and the severance of relations with everything that moves.
    I am for the freedom of the southeast. I am for their self-determination. But we ourselves need, guys, we will only support .... but we will not decide for you.
    Think. So far you have succeeded. But they can crush one by one.
    IMHO.
    1. Ilotan
      Ilotan April 15 2014 20: 59
      +7
      Now Tsarev will again be knocked on the teapot and he will ripen. He was almost ripe.
      1. avt
        avt April 15 2014 21: 11
        +4
        Quote: Ilotan
        Now Tsarev will again be knocked on the teapot and he will ripen. He was almost ripe.

        Never, if I really wanted to - would long ago become a leader.
        1. gfs84
          gfs84 April 15 2014 21: 17
          +1
          But I'm wondering why this "miracle" was tapped, and most importantly who ?:

          Ex-Prime Minister of Ukraine and presidential candidate Yulia Tymoshenko said that she had postponed her campaign in order to address the issues of protecting the territorial integrity of the country, however, she would not withdraw her candidacy from the election.


          http://www.kommersant.ru/doc/2453423

          As the Hero of Our Time used to say: "It's not casual ...."
        2. maximus235
          maximus235 April 15 2014 22: 42
          0
          Even if he wanted, it is unlikely. In the Donbass, there is no faith in any of the politicians. We need a competent warrior (better with combat experience) with a rank not lower than the subfield. Here it can.
          1. Semen Semyonitch
            Semen Semyonitch April 16 2014 02: 58
            +1
            Quote: maximus235
            Even if he wanted, it is unlikely. In the Donbass, there is no faith in any of the politicians. We need a competent warrior (better with combat experience) with a rank not lower than the subfield. Here it can.


            Write nonsense ... Aksenov, Konstantinov, Chaly, were all generals? We need a charismatic, impulsive and ideological leader, even a taxi driver, even an obstetrician ...
      2. serega.fedotov
        serega.fedotov April 15 2014 21: 19
        +1
        Quote: Ilotan
        Now Tsarev will again be knocked on the teapot and he will ripen. He was almost ripe.

        Vryatli someone from those who in Ukraine sat in warm offices will be able to unite the people!
        I hope now such a person will appear on the barricades!
      3. sv68
        sv68 April 15 2014 21: 24
        +2
        I just spoke out of tsars and said that in spite of the beating I wouldn’t refuse my own, he’ll go to Donetsk to help the people
      4. shasherin_pavel
        shasherin_pavel April 15 2014 22: 19
        +1
        Once again they will taunt and be cured in a psychiatric hospital, it happens all the time if you knock on the head, it helps brains more when using rods, lower ... Resentment she pushed many to great things. Ulyanov, for example, took revenge on the brother of Alexander for the whole bourgeoisie, even when the king lost his revenge on the tsar ... It’s not for nothing that Rods and brains differ in just one letter.
      5. andj61
        andj61 April 15 2014 22: 39
        0
        He is good at second or third roles. But not a leader, there isn’t enough tyama, charisma.
      6. mamont5
        mamont5 April 16 2014 05: 42
        0
        Quote: Ilotan
        Now Tsarev will again be knocked on the teapot and he will ripen. He was almost ripe.


        Against Tsarev, the case has already been opened, the charge of separatism.
      7. AVIATOR36662
        AVIATOR36662 April 16 2014 08: 11
        0
        Super comparison! The most remarkable thing is that in less than two months a lot of real leaders have appeared! Real leaders, not "rabbits" bought by the West.
    2. thrower
      thrower April 15 2014 21: 22
      0
      One word only - Gubarev. Or beavers. Or elderberry.
    3. shasherin_pavel
      shasherin_pavel April 15 2014 22: 15
      +1
      "There are few real violent, so there are no leaders." But what is interesting is that Donbass, where 63% of Ukrainians rebelled, and Chernigov, where almost 70% of Russians are silent. True, in Chernigov I did not feel such pressure on the Russian language.
      1. Maverick78
        Maverick78 April 16 2014 00: 22
        +4
        At least in central Ukraine there is no pressure on the Russian language. For example, I’ll declare a vacation in Russian and wrote nothing, let go ... and even gave the money)
        The problem is not in the number of violent, but in a difficult situation and complete disorientation of the overwhelming part of society. Most people are convinced that the Maidan stood for a better future (people there mostly stood for precisely this) and not for the Bandera and other Shukhevych, and even less for the governor oligarchs. And most of the blame for the Maidan lies precisely on the vegetable that you get out of the RND there (real, no less than those who replaced it) PR really created all the conditions for this situation.
        And now what we have. A polar fox creeps up to the country, and it's not easy to see. Since December, a coup has taken place (anti-Ukrainian, but at first glance very patriotic), but the alternative was the support of Yanyk (also anti-Ukrainian). Now it’s an illegal government, but the alternative is the collapse of the country. The fact that our media are exaggerating is not a secret (the stories about dozens of Russian saboteurs with passports look especially funny), but yours also show the situation one-sidedly, only one side of the coin that is beneficial to your tops (you can believe me, I'm not zombied and I don’t go to Europe I want) But there are no pro-Ukrainian leaders.
  6. mad
    mad April 15 2014 20: 29
    +23
    And I liked the dude from VKontakte, writes - in a fit of maydanutism he dragged summer tires in order to burn in the name of revolution ... now there is no work, no tires. Spikes on asphalt clatter.
    1. thrower
      thrower April 15 2014 21: 23
      +11
      Well, at least I didn’t shoot myself so that I could get into Heavenly Hundred.
    2. Corsair
      Corsair April 16 2014 00: 35
      +1
      Quote: mad
      And I liked the dude from VKontakte, writes - in a fit of maydanutism he dragged summer tires in order to burn in the name of revolution ... now there is no work, no tires. Spikes on asphalt clatter.

      Soon there will be no "clatter", the hryvnia collapses every day and rapidly, gasoline becomes more expensive ...
    3. sso-xnumx
      sso-xnumx April 16 2014 01: 28
      0
      Ah, well done !!! Don’t be happy now ....
    4. mamont5
      mamont5 April 16 2014 05: 46
      +1
      Quote: mad
      And I liked the dude from VKontakte, writes - in a fit of maydanutism he dragged summer tires in order to burn in the name of revolution ... now there is no work, no tires. Spikes on asphalt clatter.


      He probably thought that after the victory everything will be heaps - cars, money, apartments, and only rubber will be given to everyone in the load. But it turned out - they gave out, but not that one. You won’t put a condom on wheels.
  7. andrei332809
    andrei332809 April 15 2014 20: 36
    +4
    So, 90% of their questions are not about tactics and plans for protecting Ukraine, not about a strategy to uphold Ukraine, not about buying new equipment and weapons, not about raising patriotism, but only money-money-money.

    Well, as she does not understand, this is the most important value of the clerks — money, money, money ... she should be proud that this bright thought has reached the common people (cattle in Faryon's style), and she complains. dypa, you for this and maidanila
  8. ia-ai00
    ia-ai00 April 15 2014 20: 37
    +11
    My Father is a Ukrainian, a veteran of the Great Patriotic War, said the same thing about Westerners that they will never be brothers in the USSR, they will always be enemies, and that if there is a chance, they will act in their country, worse than the Nazis, and unfortunately , he was right. Only a fascist is in sight, and this one will walk alongside for years, and you won’t even think that this person hates you fiercely.
    1. ya.seliwerstov2013
      ya.seliwerstov2013 April 15 2014 20: 44
      +2
      Answer westEntsam!
      With the overthrow of the schism occurs the country
      And what have you accomplished, bitch sons?

      Sevastopol and Crimea do not want to live with you.
      South, east indignation with deeds burn.

      People's referendum: "With Russia, friends!"
      I don't know about you, but I will just - "For!"
      1. andrei332809
        andrei332809 April 15 2014 20: 51
        +7
        Quote: ya.seliwerstov2013
        Answer westEntsam!

  9. Arh
    Arh April 15 2014 20: 38
    +5
    Ukrainians are not even a nation, it is the Outskirts of Russia, it is Western Russians who always spoke Russian! Austrians imposed Polish words on them (Ukrainians), and those who refused to speak a mixed language were punished. This is how the Ukrainian language appeared !!!
    1. andj61
      andj61 April 15 2014 22: 56
      +2
      If you had heard what language the grandparents of 70-80 years old spoke in Russia in the 60-70s (Bryansk, Smolensk, Oryol, Kursk regions) - and even in neighboring villages the language was different - such an option for the formation of the Ukrainian language would not have come to you to the head. Near Austria-Hungary there was only a small part of Ukraine, and even the Rusyns live in Transcarpathia, they were recorded in the Ukrainians both in Soviet and modern times, but they are different Slavic people. But there were a lot of Ukraine - Pereyaslavl, Chernihiv (this is actually Ukraine), Ryazan, Nizhny Novgorod, Zalesskaya. Only the first two are related to the current one. But there were 2 Russian states - the Grand Duchy of Lithuania and the Grand Duchy of Moscow. Moreover, as far back as the 19th century, Lithuanians and Litvins were called Belarusians, and the current Lithuanians are called zhmeyts, zhmudyu, yatvyag.
      So there were more Russians in the Principality of Lithuania, two times in the 15th century.
      And then - what happened, it happened. Both Russian, Ukrainian, and Belarusian languages ​​are the descendants of that amorphous and varied ancient Russian, drawn up in literary form and in certain rules.
      1. mamont5
        mamont5 April 16 2014 05: 50
        0
        Quote: andj61
        Moreover, the Lithuanians and Litvinians in the 19 century were called Belarusians, and the current Lithuanians - zhemayty, zhmudyu, yatvyagami.


        That's right, zhemayts (in Russian - Zhmud) were not even considered Lithuanians. And the current Lithuanians consider Prince Vitovt to be their hero, who mortgaged this Zhmud and sold it and just did not lose it on the cards.
  10. dmitrij.blyuz
    dmitrij.blyuz April 15 2014 20: 41
    +5
    It’s a pity that not all banderlogs Marshal Zhukov failed. I did what I could ...
  11. pensioner
    pensioner April 15 2014 20: 41
    +4
    Even the most recent, non-militant, soft-skinned and indifferent layman begins to understand something.
    It seems to me that this same man in the street does not at all begin to understand something there, but simply stupidly pushes his notorious "hut" further to the side.
    1. bubalik
      bubalik April 15 2014 20: 47
      +3
      Senior Citizen (5) SU  Today, 20: 41 New
      It seems to me that this same man in the street does not at all begin to understand something there, but simply stupidly pushes his notorious "hut" further to the side.


      ,,, clearly complement ,,, hi
      1. shasherin_pavel
        shasherin_pavel April 15 2014 22: 26
        +3
        It should have been like this: "My bacon is on the edge", like "don't touch your heart, but take the bacon"
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  12. konvalval
    konvalval April 15 2014 20: 43
    +4
    Quote: Very old
    Father bequeathed - the Zapadents are NON-PEOPLE, we were going west, and they were in our backs. REMEMBER, son.

    Almost the same father told me. When the Germans were driven across western Ukraine, they picked out deserters from attics, basements and other crevices. Immediately drove them into battle. Having no experience, they practically died here. And then their relatives buried them.
  13. Ased
    Ased April 15 2014 20: 45
    +16
    The Ukrainian is the one who clenches his fists at the word "fascist" and does not raise his hand!
  14. dmitrij.blyuz
    dmitrij.blyuz April 15 2014 20: 46
    +1
    Yuri! Oh youth! For now, everything is excusable to them! May God live to see our years. Brains will stand up in the right way! hi
    1. pensioner
      pensioner April 15 2014 21: 21
      +3
      Hello Dima! hi
      Then, someday, they will understand that life goes by quickly. And in their declining years they will remember: HOW they lived and will cry into their neighbor's waistcoat. And constantly asking myself the sacramental question: "Well, why didn't I dare, didn't protest? Why did I hunch back in my garden all my life, finding food for myself, and still lived from hand to mouth? Why did my children leave me in search of a better life?" If they live, of course, until these years ...
      1. dmitrij.blyuz
        dmitrij.blyuz April 15 2014 21: 27
        +1
        Good evening, Yur! Now they are throwing themselves. Children are in their footsteps. Then they will blame everyone and everyone for their inability. And life flies like a leaf from an aspen. Do they smell out? It might be too late!
  15. skyil
    skyil April 15 2014 20: 46
    +7
    Recently I read a comment by Boris Akunin .... b ?! With him Ukraine will live beautifully without Crimea, not without the help of the West, and Russia with its "god's dew" Putin will go to hell. I have a question; Where do such uki scribblers come from? What are they missing? angry
    1. Walk
      Walk April 15 2014 21: 03
      +9
      These scribblers brought up by a liberal party. They consider themselves the true elite, and the people are cattle who do not understand the high mission of such enlighteners. This is the whole party of echo, rain, faces, elephant, etc. In a word - the fifth column.
      1. Ased
        Ased April 16 2014 00: 47
        0
        The Ukrainian science fiction writer Yan Valetov has already divided Ukraine into eastern and western. And in Russia, the king! Strong and smart, chosen by the people. But Kiev is no more. Series Draw Earth. :)))
        PS - not advertising!
    2. W1950
      W1950 April 15 2014 21: 17
      +5
      From Georgia, Grigory Shalvovich Chkhartishvili, another pseudonym Anna Borisova.
    3. thrower
      thrower April 15 2014 21: 26
      +2
      A magic pendal usually. In general, a writer must be hungry, otherwise fleas in his head start up, and hammering hooves interfere with "Create". There are only a few exceptions.
    4. shasherin_pavel
      shasherin_pavel April 15 2014 22: 29
      0
      They have a special passion, they only know how to rave!
    5. Russian jacket
      Russian jacket April 16 2014 02: 28
      0
      Salvage does not smell. It's a pity....
    6. 11111mail.ru
      11111mail.ru April 16 2014 04: 34
      0
      Quote: skyil
      koment Boris Akunin.... b ?! With him Ukraine will live beautifully without Crimea, not without the help of the West, and Russia with its "dew of God" Putin will go to hell. I have a question; Where do such scribblers come from?

      Surname of this gentleman Chkhartrishvili, name and patronymic, respectively, Grigory Shalvovich. Word Masha and not oursa.
  16. Partisan Kramaha
    Partisan Kramaha April 15 2014 20: 51
    +3
    I’m wondering what kind of Russian channels we are talking about? One zombie vision on the air!
  17. dmitrij.blyuz
    dmitrij.blyuz April 15 2014 20: 52
    0
    Quote: SHILO
    Tired of it? Do not read.

    Yes. I'm tired. We forgot about ourselves with Ukraine. Although I have relatives and good friends there. Kars disappeared from our site. I’m worried about it too. But the main thing for me is what’s going on in my country. And Ukraine isn’t write off from the accounts. And you, well, remain cannon fodder and small fry. And who prevents you from being human? Or do you want it yourself?
  18. 120352
    120352 April 15 2014 20: 54
    +7
    A true Ukrainian is something like Baba Yaga or Leshy. In general, a fairy-tale character who is not really there. This is a kind of homunculus, which was constructed in Austria-Hungary at the beginning of the XNUMXth century. Previously, there were no Ukrainians, but there were Russian Little Russians. It was the Little Russians, not the Ukrainians, who called themselves Shevchenko, Lesya Ukrainka, Ivan Franko and others, including Panteleimon Kulish, who invented a kulishovka to designate Mova. But he also disowned her. And he didn’t just renounce it, because he realized that she could divide a single people, which, as a result, turned out and repented all her life about this.
    Ukrainians were made in the first death camp of Tallerhof in the history of mankind. Thousands of Little Russians were brought there, and a dozen Ukrainians were released. those. those who were ready to change the name of their people to the name of a non-existent ethnic group only in order to be opposed to Russian, to themselves, i.e. traitors. After all, Little Russians always considered themselves Russian. And those who refused to change their belonging to the Russian people were killed.
    Do not believe? Read Gogol Taras Bulba. What is the main character fighting for? For the unification of the Russian people! But Khmelnitsky for what fought? Yes for the same. And what is written in the documents of the Pereyaslav Rada? That's it!
    1. shasherin_pavel
      shasherin_pavel April 15 2014 22: 49
      +3
      Gogol has Taras Bulba, like D, Artagnan from Dumas. If you read the story, then it was the Musketeers who were the Cardinal's policemen. Yes, D, Artagnan performed so many feats that Dumas could not even imagine, and he even received from the cardinal the right to arrest royalty. Who are the Cossacks really? They served Poland, but when the blood of Ukrainians turned out to be the best to lubricate the pans' boots, they rushed to serve the Turks, but when Turkey from 8 year old children was taken into the Ottoman army under the "Ottoman tax" in order to educate them "janissaries-castrates" rushed to Russia under protection, but during the war between Russia and Turkey they join the Pugachev uprising, not in full force, but at the "beginning" were the majority among the rebels. During the battle, Koshevoy left control of the battle, coveted the cradle "as long as I live, I haven't seen such a cradle so beautiful" and Koshevoy's head rolled onto the grass. Get covered in a trophy battle! this is the essence of most of the Cossacks. To steal and to drink ... it was true to steal from our own people, but from our neighbors, even Russia suffered from their raids. Reading about them as about "Captain Blood", you see that they are heroes, but you understand that they are pirates.
      1. sso-xnumx
        sso-xnumx April 16 2014 01: 36
        0
        Addition from previous comments:
        The myth of the "Ancient Ukraine" and "ancient ukrah." Part of 2
        I actually began to suspect that sometime in the "first Ukrainian" chronicle a slip of the tongue was added and they were not originally called ukrami, but URKI! Painfully, the whole lifestyle of this people looks like kleptomania, they drag on themselves everything that is needed and not necessary. They steal from themselves, rot everything in the barns, but they will not use it for the purpose for the benefit of themselves and others!
  19. Giant thought
    Giant thought April 15 2014 20: 57
    +2
    Those pseudo-rulers who value their own pocket the most do not give a damn about what will happen to Ukraine, the task is to fill a pocket and dump it over a hill, and even there the grass does not grow. By the way, we are also full of such full. But the people of Ukraine (west and center) with brainwashed by him Ukraine will not save. There will be no state of Ukraine in the future.
  20. mountaineer
    mountaineer April 15 2014 21: 01
    +2
    Quote: me by
    Quote: climber
    It is I - the real one.


    my surname is Pilipenko, in the History of Ukraine and the Union with her there were heroes and traitors

    but I know for sure that among the 11 children of my grandmother now there are no fascist traitors for sure.

    for me there are no divisions into Ukrainian and Russian !!! this is one people !!!!
  21. Leshka
    Leshka April 15 2014 21: 08
    +2
    prosrall everything and everything
  22. Walk
    Walk April 15 2014 21: 12
    +2
    People in the South-East did not have to drive away the tanks, but take them away so that there was something to fight back from the Maidan.
  23. parus2nik
    parus2nik April 15 2014 21: 16
    +2
    I’m glad if tomorrow there is news, the column of Ukrainian troops that entered Slavyansk didn’t come out of it .. But they are tormented by vague doubts ..
  24. Akulina
    Akulina April 15 2014 21: 19
    0
    It’s just now that a colleague said - his neighbor’s cousin lives in Kiev — when the Maidan began, she went to take a look — then someone offered her a job - to cook food. Products, equipment - all of excellent quality. Cook in line with other aunts. During the work I received 35 thousand dollars (!!!). Immediately left Kiev to Zaporozhye, buys an apartment there. I understand - there is a lot of information from the series of OBS now (one woman said), but I have no reason not to believe the person whom I have known for 20 years.
  25. Counter
    Counter April 15 2014 21: 21
    +1
    Quote: Ilotan
    Now Tsarev will again be knocked on the teapot and he will ripen. He was almost ripe.

    Simple Tsarev for the leader. A person with convictions, but with a not very clear understanding of the whole situation, this is obvious. What is being achieved is not yet clear!
  26. Walk
    Walk April 15 2014 21: 33
    +1
    It’s too late to look for a leader. Normally, they will no longer be allowed to unite. Now more important are local resistance leaders in the cities of the southeast.
  27. hommer
    hommer April 15 2014 21: 36
    +7
    ATTENTION ATTENTION...!!! TO ALL MEN OF THE SOUTH-EAST ... !!!!
    URGENT MOBILIZATION ...
    CALL ON ... PHONES ..
    +38 0995382886- BRAIN ALEXEI.
    +38 0997486305- HQ.
    +38 0669425352- REM..BRAIN.
    DISTRIBUTE TO ALL .. URGENT


    It came to classmates, scattered where he could. Guys, hold on!
  28. Revmirovich
    Revmirovich April 15 2014 21: 40
    +4
    Ukrainians and Russians are one people
    but banderlogs and dill in one person are already completely different people, although in appearance they are both similar in appearance.
  29. sem-yak
    sem-yak April 15 2014 22: 07
    +1
    Here we are discussing, but what do the Ukrainians themselves want at least someone knows? And if the South-East is now against Kiev, then why now and not when Crimea realized everything and made its choice? What did Donetsk expect?
  30. rocketman
    rocketman April 15 2014 23: 25
    -12%
    And Donetsk is watching. and what does he see? Gangs of looters in Slavyansk, shooting and lawlessness on the roads.
    I will answer the author simply: the separatists rocked the airfield in Kramatorsk - were repulsed with losses, on the shoulders of fleeing Ukrainian special forces entered the city. also completely liberated Slavyansk. And this is just the beginning. As if the author did not want to, but the people, for the most part, do not support the separatists.
    1. Lesogon
      Lesogon April 16 2014 00: 29
      +4
      Pan rocket launcher, do you see this from Vinnitsa? I can see from Gorlovka differently, why not? Maybe because I see these people every day and not on TV?
    2. gav6757
      gav6757 April 16 2014 00: 51
      +4
      Get fucked !!! In give, not otherwise Ukrainian news on channel 5 watched? There they will not show it ... Do you really think that the people support the Euromaidan?
      I just don’t understand what’s going on in central and western Ukraine, either they’ll talk about everything, or they’ll zombie everyone through TV ... No, well, seriously, it's a nightmare !!!
    3. sso-xnumx
      sso-xnumx April 16 2014 01: 39
      +1
      From whom is exempted? From the indigenous population ???
    4. regsSSSR
      regsSSSR April 16 2014 02: 23
      +1
      rocketman
      Ukrainian special forces entered the city. also completely liberated Slavyansk. And this is just the beginning.


      SHO belay belay wassat

      comrade you cho fell off the moon chtoli !!

      IN SLAVYANSK, SOMEONE WASN'T ENTERING !!!!

      propaganda you have the Nazis p .... c
      read on http://rusvesna.su/news/1397589664 about the great victories of the mountain-ukraarmia in the east on the 15th
    5. stalkerwalker
      stalkerwalker April 16 2014 02: 35
      +3
      Quote: rocketman
      As if the author did not want to, but the people, for the most part, do not support separatists.

      Do not identify yourself with the people ... The people will be insulted ....
  31. gav6757
    gav6757 April 16 2014 00: 56
    +1
    “... After all, Ukraine is not only the hryvnia, but also the territory, our land, culture, language, our principles. Today we need to cultivate patriotism, explain that in a state of war we must tighten our belts, protect the earth and be proud of it. Every day you need to ask yourself the question: what have I done for Ukraine today? Not Turchinov, Yatsenyuk, Kshlichko, Poroshenko, Tymoshenko, namely me! Understanding of our mission, sacrifice and social responsibility of everyone are very necessary today. ” In the postscript, Gerashchenko, as it were, casually adds that “power should be more professional and decisive. And tomorrow I will go to Cherkasy, to the military. ”

    THERE IS AN INTERESTING QUESTION ON THE MATTER OF WHAT I DID ... WELL INTERBREAD WITH PATRIOTISM! PATRIOTISM FOLDES OUT OF HISTORY AND PRIDE FOR ITS PEOPLE !!! And, GOPOTA, standing for 23 years, forgot the history and tried to come up with and impose on the people their own.
  32. rocketman
    rocketman April 16 2014 01: 12
    -5
    Quote: Lesogon
    Pan rocket launcher, do you see this from Vinnitsa? I can see from Gorlovka differently, why not? Maybe because I see these people every day and not on TV?

    You can be in Vinnitsa and know much more, and the real situation. And you can be in Gorlovka and continue to see nothing from the view from the window. And I don’t watch TV at all - once to me.
    1. Lesogon
      Lesogon April 16 2014 01: 53
      +1
      This is how, enlighten me dear Svidomo pan?
      I looked out the window of the house from the car, and walked with my legs, but I haven’t seen looters or firing on the roads anywhere ... I have a lot of friends and acquaintances in Slavyansk and Kramatorsk, I visit Donetsk almost every day, in Lugansk the friend’s son is studying .... nowhere do shops rob and do not shoot around the corner. So how do you get knowledge of the real situation? Can you also from these with red-blind armbands ah?
    2. stalkerwalker
      stalkerwalker April 16 2014 02: 36
      +2
      Quote: rocketman
      And I don’t watch TV at all - once to me.

      In the fool, they indulge in other procedures ... laughing
    3. Wheel
      Wheel April 16 2014 03: 33
      0
      Quote: rocketman
      You can be in Vinnitsa and know much more, and the real situation. And you can be in Gorlovka and continue to see nothing from the view from the window. And I don’t watch TV at all - once to me.

      OBS?
  33. sso-xnumx
    sso-xnumx April 16 2014 01: 44
    +1
    Comment on the article:
    - "AY-yay-yay-yayayay! And who did it"
    Ludwig Aristarkhovich. TV show "Our RUSSIA"
  34. Lesogon
    Lesogon April 16 2014 01: 56
    +1
    Yes .. what is this kind of special forces on whose shoulders which city burst into? Do you have such dreams or read Avakov's Facebook?
  35. rocketman
    rocketman April 16 2014 02: 08
    -4
    Quote: Lesogon
    This is how, enlighten me dear Svidomo pan?
    I looked out the window of the house from the car, and walked with my legs, but I haven’t seen looters or firing on the roads anywhere ... I have a lot of friends and acquaintances in Slavyansk and Kramatorsk, I visit Donetsk almost every day, in Lugansk the friend’s son is studying .... nowhere do shops rob and do not shoot around the corner. So how do you get knowledge of the real situation? Can you also from these with red-blind armbands ah?

    To your displeasure, I'm not a Svidomo pan. And to the red-black ones, no matter how you would like, I have nothing to do. I am a Russian-speaking Ukrainian from eastern Ukraine. And, imagine, I have a bunch of relatives and friends in Enakievo and Donetsk. And none of us supports separatism and does not seek to embrace Russia. I think we will get our way out of without outside interference - the Russian language as the second state language, and an increase in the rights of the regions. And you don’t need to seize buildings and rattle your arms for this - it’s almost terrorism, and nobody will get better from this.
    1. Lesogon
      Lesogon April 16 2014 02: 23
      0
      But what when you captured the whole western you also thought so?
    2. stalkerwalker
      stalkerwalker April 16 2014 02: 39
      +3
      Quote: rocketman
      I think we will get our way out of without interference from outside - the Russian language as the second state language, and an increase in the rights of regions

      Or maybe you are an Estonian? While you, svidomye, guessing a thought, the Americans sent you, thoughtfully, a new administration. And all because you can’t add up your prices ...
      1. Lesogon
        Lesogon April 16 2014 02: 55
        0
        No, this is not an Estonian type of people, this is our type, it is called "I am not me and the house is not mine", or "my house is on the edge, I don't know anything", in short, the type is an ostrich
    3. regsSSSR
      regsSSSR April 16 2014 03: 32
      0
      rocketman
      And you don’t need to seize buildings and rattle your arms for this - it’s almost terrorism, and nobody will get better from this.


      memory definitely changes for you!
      you accidentally did not forget how it all began at the end of last year and who exactly are the true terrorists who seized power !! and where are they shas graying !!
      and if you really have no attitude to radical Ukrainian nationalists, which I honestly doubt very much, I advise you not to forget to call it bluntly tell the completely unjustly terrorists the all-important part of the population of Ukraine quite rightly and justifiably unwilling to see the fascist Kiev junta illegally seizing power in arms in the country!
      and if you believe that you can talk with the junta and the armed law-breakers without arms in your hands, then you are a naive blind man!
    4. 11111mail.ru
      11111mail.ru April 16 2014 04: 39
      0
      Quote: rocketman
      And you don’t need to seize buildings and rattle your arms for this - it’s almost terrorism, and nobody will get better from this.

      Here is the maydaunam and explain, preferably in Kiev and from the rostrum.
  36. Russian jacket
    Russian jacket April 16 2014 02: 24
    0
    After such information, if it is true, then Russia shouldn’t get involved in this mud. It seems that we are simply invited to enter. But in this situation, the entrance will be half and there will be no exit at all. They attached Crimea and, according to Gorchakov, we need to focus further hi . They themselves will come, but if not, the woman with the cart and the wolves are full.
  37. Semenov
    Semenov April 16 2014 03: 45
    +2
    The enemy’s voice - the Euronews channel no longer shows, it’s not good. I am guided by the hryvnia exchange rate — as there will be more than 15 — of the khan to Ukraine, and we will see an increase in the form of new autonomous republics in the Southeast.
  38. mamont5
    mamont5 April 16 2014 05: 37
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    "... with the women zombified by Russian TV, standing as human shields in front of the barricades, you need to talk, they need to be persuaded."

    But with the zombie ukrovsky TV, I think no convictions will help. They 20 years of brains endured. Only brain trepanation can give a result.
  39. Corsair
    Corsair April 16 2014 05: 40
    +1
    KIEV, April 14 - RIA Novosti.
    Oleksandr Turchynov, appointed by the Verkhovna Rada as Acting President of Ukraine, relieved Vitaliy Tsygank of the duties of the head of the anti-terrorism center at the Security Service of Ukraine, appointing Vasily Krutov to replace him.

    The relevant decrees were published on Monday on the website of the acting the president. Turchinov also appointed Gypsy as the deputy head of the SBU, and Krutov as the first deputy head of the SBU.


    AND ABOUT. The head of the ATC under the SBU, General Vasily Krutov, was "taken into circulation" by the inhabitants of Slavyansk near the airfield, where troops are concentrated to strike at the rebels.

    Photo dated 16.04.2014.
  40. philip
    philip April 16 2014 05: 57
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    Who is the true UKRAINIAN Here, I live in the Far East, about 40 percent of Ukrainians, in Magadan they say 60. Well and cho. I met here in the vast neta, they say the group of Slavic tribes who lived between ELBA and SPREE IV century, the name Ukrainians. And this, a group of tribes, namely BODRICHI LYUTICH POMORYAN, would have been surprised if they had been told that they are Ukrainians.
  41. rocketman
    rocketman April 16 2014 07: 08
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    Quote: regressSSSR
    and if you believe that you can talk with the junta and the armed law-breakers without arms in your hands, then you are a naive blind man!

    Dear, watch less TV, especially at night, and, if not difficult, learn the grammar of the Russian language, so as not to disgrace.
    And about where it all started - I'm in the subject, read my comments three months ago. I personally never supported the Maidan and what was going on there. But this does not mean that I must immediately run to the east with shouts of "Russia, help!" We'll figure it out ourselves.
    And to the screams about my "Svidomizma" there is no desire to respond - nonsense.
    1. AVIATOR36662
      AVIATOR36662 April 16 2014 08: 41
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      How you figure it out, time has shown! Russia helps to figure it out right! And only to those who want it! Crimea wanted! Russia helped! Already almost the whole Southeast wanted, Russia too will not leave Ukraine in trouble! We can figure it out in Kiev if the right-wingers allow it. As we see, they do not allow it yet! That is, even in Kiev you can’t to figure it out for yourself! Where can one promise for the whole country! The inhabitants of the East will sort it out for themselves! And Russia is the guarantor of the correct disassembly.
  42. vkrav
    vkrav April 16 2014 08: 23
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    Heroic Guards for Heroic Ukronization laughing
  43. Polarfox
    Polarfox April 16 2014 16: 11
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    Quote: Very old
    We are cannon fodder and small fry, a buffer zone created for you and about you. Remember that.

    Have you ever read that a person cannot be a means, is he always a goal? Do not listen to the rotten propaganda, Russia's buffer zones unnecessarily, it will cope. But the fact that Ukrainians are brothers is true. True, not all. Those who tear the throat in an attempt to flood Russia with mud, I personally, not brothers, it’s better to be an orphan than to have such relatives.