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CNN: Donetsk activists are not associated with Moscow

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CNN: Donetsk activists are not associated with Moscow



CNN US TV denies the official statement of the US State Department about Donetsk. Contrary to the statements of the US State Department, the American journalists in Donetsk did not find the "green men" who were seen in the Crimea, and also did not find any connection between the local self-defense units and the Kremlin.

At the same time, CNN correspondent Nick Payton Walsh notes that self-defense units in Donetsk are nevertheless well armed and demonstrate a high degree of coordination.

“Only one thing is clear: they are well coordinated with each other, all events take place in precisely designated, strategically important places that can be said to create a ring around Donetsk. All these places are located on the outskirts of Donetsk region. The geography of events is in itself rather curious. The timing is also curious, of course - he points out that in all these events there is an essential element of strategic planning that guides where and when to whom to go, "Russia T cited Nick Walsh oday

The American correspondent emphasizes that according to the descriptions of "little green men" who acted on the Crimean peninsula, one could quite clearly see that these were Russian troops, only without distinctive signs.

The situation is different in the east of Ukraine.

"Here, among the militia, there are people of different ages. They wear a uniform of approximately the same type, also without distinctive signs. They are fairly well armed and do demonstrate a significant level of organization. Obviously, they are not new to this business, but where could they have acted before - Unknown, "- emphasizes the American correspondent.

At the same time, Nick Payton Walsh has one doubt. This is the one who leads the scattered self-defense units.

“Watching the development of events, you are convinced that someone is in charge of all this. It’s hard to imagine that these people are just local activists from Donetsk who have magically managed to carry out such a large-scale operation throughout the region over the past few days,” a CNN correspondent exclaims. .

In Zhdanovka in the Donetsk region twenty supporters of federalization seized the building of the city council. It hoisted the flag of the Donetsk Republic. Europe demands from Russia to condemn the actions of residents of eastern Ukraine. European Commissioner for Neighborhood Issues Stefan Fule appealed to Russia to condemn the seizure of administrative and other buildings in the south-east of Ukraine.

The 25 th brigade of the Airborne Forces of Ukraine stationed under Slavyansk moved to the side of the people's militia.

Over the past day, mass events were held in Donetsk, Mariupol, Kirovsky, Enakievo, Amvrosiyivka, Artemovsk, Makeyevka, Khartsyzsk. In Donetsk, the protesters continue to hold the building of the regional state administration, in Mariupol seized the administrative building of the city executive committee. The premises of Kramatorsk and Slavic city police departments were captured. 14 April also captured the building of the police department in Gorlovka, the same attempts are observed at the building of the police department in Yenakiyevo.

The people's militia in Lugansk issued an ultimatum to the regional authorities, demanding that 16 of April decide on who they are and who the army is with.

In this case, Lugansk activists have not yet gone to seize the building of the regional state administration. The leader of the Lugansk people's militia, Aleksei Mozgovoy, stressed that the Lugansk people's militia does not intend to surrender weapon until the conflict is resolved. He expressed the hope that the authorities of Lugansk and the region will support the desire of residents to live not by order of Kiev.

The president of Ukraine, Oleksandr Turchynov, previously appointed by the Verkhovna Rada, announced the start of an anti-terrorist special operation in the east of the country. By decision of the National Security and Defense Council, the army will participate in the operation together with the SBU. Turchinov stressed that he hopes to avoid a repetition of the Crimean scenario, and intends to prevent human casualties. Turchinov issued an ultimatum to the Slavyansk self-defense forces demanding to lay down their arms until April 14 in the morning.

The US Central Intelligence Agency responded to the accusations of the exiled President of Ukraine Viktor Yanukovych. The politician told 13 on April that the decision on the military special operation in the south-east of the Republic of Kiev was made under the influence of the American intelligence chief John Brennan.

"Like other representatives of the US government, Brennan is convinced that only diplomatic methods are the only right way to resolve the conflict between Moscow and Kiev," said CIA spokesman Tod Ebitz.

However, Ebits declined to comment on Brennan’s trip to Ukraine itself, and left unanswered the question of whether it had a place or not.
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  1. Ossetian.
    Ossetian. April 14 2014 20: 34
    +57
    Well, if they have disagreements with CNN, then it's generally chocolate.
    1. jjj
      jjj April 14 2014 20: 37
      +18
      The troops of Kiev are concentrated in the city of Izium, Kharkov region. From here going to go east
      1. olegglin
        olegglin April 14 2014 20: 39
        +31
        Again on the Izyum tract they play pranks, however ...
        1. nika407
          nika407 April 14 2014 21: 01
          +14
          He even takes pride in self-defense fighters, they are united, coordinated, with good weapons skills)))) One can see America with a formatted brain completely unsuitable for anything unless specially trained.
          1. infinite silence ...
            infinite silence ... April 14 2014 21: 14
            +37
            Even if there is no weapon ... by fortitude!

            1. Manul
              Manul April 14 2014 21: 53
              +14
              One against the crowd of Bandera!
              MAN !!! With steel eggs! Well done!
            2. f.lourens
              f.lourens April 14 2014 23: 17
              +7
              There are more such men in Ukraine .. you look at Bandera and will disappear as a species hi
        2. platitsyn70
          platitsyn70 April 14 2014 21: 52
          +2
          The U.S. Department of Defense has attempted to examine how Israel’s likely military attack on Iran will end. To do this, the Pentagon simulated the Israeli military operation in the greatest possible detail. It turned out that if Israel, without warning anyone, strikes Iran’s nuclear facilities, the American side will inevitably have to take part in this conflict.

          US participation in the war between Israel and Iran, according to representatives of the US military command, will inevitably cause the death of hundreds of American citizens. Modeling the Israeli attack on Iran, the US military found a rather high probability of the death of at least one American warship.

          Among other things, the Americans found that an Israeli attack on Iran would not lead to curtailing the Iranian nuclear program: the maximum that the parties can achieve is a delay in the development of this program for several years. Recall, Israel is very worried that Iran is conducting nuclear development.

          Earlier, representatives of Israel announced their readiness to interrupt the Iranian nuclear program in any way possible, including military intervention. The US, meanwhile, also does not want Iran to have its own nuclear program, but they are opposed to a military operation in Iran. By the way, many experts believe that a new global war will begin precisely with the conflict between Israel and Iran.
        3. Corsair
          Corsair April 15 2014 02: 48
          0
          Quote: olegglin
          Again on the Izyum tract they play pranks, however ...

          Knock the hell out with a raisin hat ...
      2. SS68SS
        SS68SS April 14 2014 20: 46
        +18
        Maydauns are ready to sell for "thirty pieces of silver" to anyone. Just to bring in troops, even NATO, even the UN, even "from the very devil", just to "annoy" Moscow ...
        1. Baloo
          Baloo April 14 2014 23: 28
          +5
          Naive people, wherever there are little things, everything turns into sracha.
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      4. Ivan Tucha
        Ivan Tucha April 14 2014 21: 09
        +7
        I congratulate them, because ours also went to the "strengthening".
      5. Nick
        Nick April 14 2014 21: 21
        +5
        Quote: jjj
        The troops of Kiev are concentrated in the city of Izium, Kharkov region. From here going to go east

        Timely warning!
      6. Dmitry Ukraine
        Dmitry Ukraine April 14 2014 21: 48
        +9
        Absolutely right. In addition to purely military units, the National Guard, law enforcement officers, special forces of the SBU and BB. Now in Izum there are only women and pensioners. All the young men, mainly wherever they earned money, the reservists were mobilized into the army a month ago ... Well, on May 9, apparently, it would be necessary to beat off the Raisins so that the Victory Day would be celebrated as it should be.
      7. Predator
        Predator April 14 2014 22: 08
        +3
        To go to the side of anti-Maidan, like the 25th brigade!
      8. kirieeleyson
        kirieeleyson April 14 2014 22: 12
        +7
        This is also how the Special Forces moved to Raisins. Well, well, let's go.
      9. 120352
        120352 April 14 2014 23: 34
        +2
        jjj
        So it is necessary to deploy good propaganda in Izum so that the warriors learn the truth that there are no terrorists and go over to the side of the people.
        1. Dmitry Ukraine
          Dmitry Ukraine April 15 2014 00: 01
          +2
          If I manage to get there on Easter, I’ll spend it - it’s time to reinforce the units of the 25th brigade :))) Now, apparently, they have the task of blocking entry / exit in this direction from the Donetsk region, then - probably to Slavyansk - this is about 60 km on the highway from Raisins.
        2. Corsair
          Corsair April 15 2014 02: 57
          +1
          Quote: 120352
          So it is necessary to deploy good propaganda in Izum so that the warriors learn the truth that there are no terrorists and go over to the side of the people.

          Children from Donbass report that neither in Donetsk, nor in Lugansk, nor in other cities and towns where there are broadcasting broadcasting companies NOT ONE of them are not taken under the control of the DNI ...

          How so? You don’t want to be heard ???
      10. mamont5
        mamont5 April 15 2014 03: 53
        0
        Quote: jjj
        The troops of Kiev are concentrated in the city of Izium, Kharkov region. From here going to go east


        So maybe it's easier to wait until they all gather there and ... cover with one blow?
    2. svetlomor
      svetlomor April 14 2014 20: 40
      +5
      I’m afraid to suppose, but I think that Akhmetov’s people are coordinating in Donetsk, so actions in Lugansk and Kharkov are more like amateur performances.
      1. Vitaly Anisimov
        Vitaly Anisimov April 14 2014 20: 57
        +12
        Here among the militia there are people of different ages. They are in the form of approximately the same species, also without decals. They are quite well armed and do show a significant level of organization.
        It doesn’t matter who finances them or whether they finance them at all .. But the men are serious and determined. ..! Looks like this Kiev whore got tired .. There is clearly a real popular uprising ..!
      2. mirag2
        mirag2 April 14 2014 22: 58
        +1
        Or people of the Yanukovych clan.
        They are just "Donetsk".
    3. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith April 14 2014 20: 44
      +19
      By the way, I watched Euronews there, as well as on Russian channels, everything is normally shown without lies. They say there are no Russian special forces and the people who attended the rally are all local.

      Right-click and open image to enlarge.
      1. Anisim1977
        Anisim1977 April 14 2014 21: 20
        +10
        In my opinion, you just have to understand:
        1) To love your Earth is good.
        2) When, for the love of the motherland, there is also a real chance to seriously raise your pension - this is doubly good.
        3) Airborne Forces - all the same + apartments upon transition to the Russian Army.
        I do not understand - where Nikolaev and Kherson !!!!!!! hi
    4. major071
      major071 April 14 2014 20: 50
      +23
      The American television company CNN denies the official statement of the US Department of State about Donetsk.

      Come on!? belay Not really adequate people found? At CNN? I am in complete prostration. what
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      2. Vedmed_23
        Vedmed_23 April 14 2014 21: 11
        +11
        In the morning before work, I try to watch Euronews, in the last week I noticed two more and more adequats began to appear, which made me happy. Someone in the geyropa took up his mind.
        1. Egoza
          Egoza April 14 2014 21: 21
          +6
          Quote: Vedmed_23
          Someone in the geyropa took up the mind.

          In Europe - Yes! But with us - no !!!

          The special-purpose battalion "Dnepr" began to form in the Dnepropetrovsk region, said the head of the National Defense Headquarters of the Dnipropetrovsk region, Yuri Bereza.

          At a press conference, he said that this special unit of the Ministry of Internal Affairs will be formed on the basis of the national defense regiment of the Dnipropetrovsk region, the main criteria for selection to the special battalion "Dnepr" are age, physical fitness and "pro-Ukrainian ideology"... "The battalion will accept volunteers from 18 to 45 years old," Bereza said.

          He noted that it takes 14 days to form a full-fledged unit, but the headquarters of the national defense of the region "will work around the clock to speed up this process." According to him, "the task of the special-purpose battalion will be to protect the region from separatists." Volunteers will be trained.

          Birch also said that now more than 1 thousand volunteer reservists have signed up for the National Defense Regiment of the Dnipropetrovsk Region. Partial mobilization of men with registered firearms has now been extended in the region. He hopes that from 7 to 15 thousand people can be mobilized in the region.
          Source: http://polemika.com.ua/news-143392.html
          1. Victor-M
            Victor-M April 14 2014 22: 36
            +4
            Quote: Egoza
            The special-purpose battalion "Dnepr" began to form in the Dnepropetrovsk region, said the head of the National Defense Headquarters of the Dnepropetrovsk region Yuri Bereza.

            At a press conference, he said that this special division of the Ministry of Internal Affairs will be formed on the basis of the national defense regiment of the Dnipropetrovsk region, the main criteria for selection to the special battalion "Dnepr" are age, physical fitness and "pro-Ukrainian ideology." "The battalion will accept volunteers from 18 to 45 years old," Bereza said.

            Punishers are prepared, scum.
          2. f.lourens
            f.lourens April 14 2014 23: 24
            +2
            I already wrote in another topic that out of 1000 reservists, 60-70 people will actually fight, the rest will simply scatter or surrender. These are dry statistics. hi
          3. Corsair
            Corsair April 15 2014 03: 22
            +2
            Quote: Egoza
            The special purpose battalion "Dnepr" began to form in the Dnepropetrovsk region

            And it was indicated that it will not be financed at the expense of state funds. The "salary" of the wares for the masters is announced in the range from 15000 hryvnia for a private and up to 50000 for the command staff ...

            To transfer the amount in RUR, multiply the numbers by four ...

            They do not want to pay their debts, but there are funds for a war against their own people am
            1. AVIATOR36662
              AVIATOR36662 April 15 2014 04: 03
              0
              And their funds are real only those that were received from Russia and from deductions from this very Southeast! So far, only so.
        2. velikoros-xnumx
          velikoros-xnumx April 14 2014 21: 24
          +2
          Quote: Vedmed_23
          in the last week two more and more adequats began to appear, which pleases. Someone in the geyropa took up his mind.

          It comes to understanding that with the hands of the EU and the U.S. neo-Bandera, they can solve two problems with one blow, or rather significantly weaken two geopolitical competitors - the EU and Russia, pulling them into an unnecessary conflict with each other, plus a constant hotbed of instability with nuclear stockpiles on the borders of ours and the EU.
          The EU has already realized that they were banal and instead of adjusting for shaken economic health at the expense of Ukraine (actually, something similar was observed during the collapse of the USSR, which acted as a kind of donor to the US economy), they are currently receiving the exact opposite effect. They, unlike the Ukrainians, do not want to chop their own bough with their own hands.
          1. Vasyan1971
            Vasyan1971 April 14 2014 22: 36
            +1
            They want it, they don’t want it! The owners do not care. They cut it like cute.
        3. badandrew
          badandrew April 14 2014 22: 08
          0
          The question is, in what language the comments on the picture, if in Russian, can slightly soften the tone.
      3. Nick
        Nick April 14 2014 21: 27
        +6
        Quote: major071
        Come on!? Not really adequate people found? At CNN? I am in complete prostration.

        Sinn positions himself as a serious political news channel. Drive a complete chernukha, like Fox News, they can not. The principle of Sinn is this - often tell the truth, then the lie will crawl ...
  2. bubalik
    bubalik April 14 2014 20: 36
    +21
    The American television company CNN denies the official statement of the US Department of State about Donetsk

    ,,, CNN ,, denies ?? belay official statement by the US state department about Donetsk ?? ,,, belay

    ,,, as if the world turned upside down ,,, what
    1. from punk
      from punk April 14 2014 20: 42
      +11
      Quote: bubalik
      ,,, CNN ,, denies ?? official statement by the US state department about Donetsk ??,

      they just compared what was happening here and what was in the Crimea and realized something was wrong. The weapon seems to be. they also speak Russian but something is wrong. gloomy are not polite. Yes, yes, and all have Ukrainian passports
    2. TEODOR
      TEODOR April 14 2014 20: 43
      +5
      Quote: bubalik
      The American television company CNN denies the official statement of the US Department of State about Donetsk

      ,,, CNN ,, denies ?? belay official statement by the US state department about Donetsk ?? ,,, belay

      ,,, as if the world turned upside down ,,, what

      They just rent the backside, prepare the escape route. good
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    4. valersvet
      valersvet April 14 2014 21: 03
      +1
      the press is very fond of pouring oil on fire, especially if it is wet
    5. f.lourens
      f.lourens April 14 2014 23: 29
      +1
      In the case of the hadron collider in the geyrop, it didn’t go off the coils ??? what
  3. Sergei75
    Sergei75 April 14 2014 20: 36
    +9
    And we told them, but they did not believe!
  4. Smiles to you
    Smiles to you April 14 2014 20: 36
    +6
    They are???!!!! But they are hard to find ... hi
    1. Bayonet
      Bayonet April 14 2014 20: 48
      +6
      Winged phrase from c.f. "DMB" - "Do you see a gopher? - No - And I don't see. But he is ..."
  5. Turkir
    Turkir April 14 2014 20: 37
    +4
    A piece of truth in a sea of ​​lies.
  6. Shaber
    Shaber April 14 2014 20: 38
    +4
    There were and will be rats! Fucking Americans. Again the fire will burn into the bushes ((Hold on to our neighbors !!! (unfortunately, so far only mentally) But not yet evening!
  7. prophet
    prophet April 14 2014 20: 40
    +3
    I think that ordinary people will see a truncated version. State Department censorship is still that
  8. pvv113
    pvv113 April 14 2014 20: 41
    +13
    Stefan Fule, member of the European Neighborhood Commission, called on Russia to condemn the seizure of administrative and other buildings in southeastern Ukraine.
    Interestingly, where was this member when Bandera seized power throughout the country? Or is it a trifle compared to what happens in individual cities in the Southeast?
  9. GradusHuK
    GradusHuK April 14 2014 20: 41
    +1
    What can I say, the snout is down.
  10. pogis
    pogis April 14 2014 20: 42
    +3
    Everything will be decided in April, before Victory Day!
    1. AVIATOR36662
      AVIATOR36662 April 15 2014 04: 05
      0
      And so I wanted before Easter!
  11. bubalik
    bubalik April 14 2014 20: 42
    +11
    "Here, among the militia, there are people of different ages. They wear uniforms of approximately the same type, also without distinctive insignia. They are quite well armed and do demonstrate a significant level of organization. Obviously, they are not new to this business, but where could they act before this is unknown",


    ,,, ehehe amerikosy repeat , any citizen of Ukraine and Russia is approximately older than 40let (offhand) AS MINIMUM for two years, no matter where, yes acted !!!soldier
    1. Valter1364
      Valter1364 April 14 2014 20: 55
      +7
      So for amerikosov the Russian word "act" is not particularly clear. Watch their TV, then they save the horse that fell into the pit of 12 episodes, then they catch the maniac 35 episodes. laughing
  12. svp67
    svp67 April 14 2014 20: 43
    +1
    Would it be useless ...
    1. from punk
      from punk April 14 2014 20: 48
      +7
      Quote: svp67
      That would be good.

      what's the point, how do you explain it to your authorities? you won’t listen at least to crack. if a tied St. George’s ribbon is used as a proof of the person’s involvement in Russia and her troops in the UN for mattresses, and the Briton cites foam in his mouth as an example calls it illegal and voicing a very accurate figure of 25000 people. They have already decided everything. And to them it’s Ukraine. So it was in Kosovo, in Georgia. We are still to blame. We are alive and not afraid, therefore, to blame
  13. Wellych
    Wellych April 14 2014 20: 44
    +9
    Well, it’s better than the statement of the French diplomat to the United Nations that the Furious regular army is behind everything - after all, with his own eyes he saw on YouTube in Donetsk, people of Slavic appearance with Kalashnikovs, how can one trust Russia after that? :) Truly - Youtube and facebook are an inexhaustible source of RAM for some. Sorry for the wretched.
    1. f.lourens
      f.lourens April 14 2014 23: 36
      +2
      He said everything correctly ... where did people of Slavic appearance come from in Donetsk, and even with a Kalashnikov assault rifle, there must be a priori Somali pirates and the Syrian army wassat
  14. Bayonet
    Bayonet April 14 2014 20: 44
    +5
    "The American television company CNN refutes the official statement of the US State Department about Donetsk." Hello, new year - it's finally reached!
    "The American correspondent emphasizes that according to the descriptions of the" little green men "who operated on the Crimean peninsula, it was quite clear that these were Russian troops, only without distinctive signs." - but it seems to me that these are "Green Berets"
    1. Vedmed_23
      Vedmed_23 April 14 2014 21: 19
      +5
      It's a shame, "little green men", the bitches there were not small, but very much even nothing soldier
      1. max702
        max702 April 14 2014 22: 03
        +11
        Little talk ...
    2. Vasek
      Vasek April 14 2014 21: 36
      +4
      Quote: Bayonet
      "The American television company CNN refutes the official statement of the US State Department about Donetsk." Hello, new year - it's finally reached!


      Unfortunately, CNN has always been and remains the mouthpiece of the State Department, despite the absurdity and absurdity of most reports.
      And if someone decides to refer to the material under discussion, they have an answer ready:
      "This is the private opinion of journalist Nick Payton Walsh and does not necessarily coincide with the official CNN point."
      request
      1. f.lourens
        f.lourens April 14 2014 23: 40
        +1
        And what can be the point of view of the news channel ??? their only task is to inform people of the news and not express their point of view .. otherwise it is not a news channel but a propaganda channel hi
        1. Vasek
          Vasek April 14 2014 23: 49
          0
          Quote: f.lourens
          their only task is to tell people the news and not express their point of view .. otherwise it’s not a news channel but a propaganda channel

          But why is the news not propaganda?
          CNN especially!
  15. Turkir
    Turkir April 14 2014 20: 45
    +4
    "Ukraine does not object to conducting a joint anti-terrorist operation with the UN peacekeeping forces in the East of our country," the press service of the Verkhovna Rada quoted A. Turchinov as saying on Monday.

    Terrorists and fascists invite the UN!
    1. kocclissi
      kocclissi April 14 2014 20: 51
      +2
      Quote: Turkir
      Terrorists and fascists invite the UN!

      How do they say in Europe: is it now in the "trend" ... or is it all new, well forgotten old?
    2. Vedmed_23
      Vedmed_23 April 14 2014 21: 35
      +1
      But now it is very noticeable who is shouting. All sorts of candidates have already been noted and Yulka woke up (shouting "give an anti-terrorist operation"), but Mr. PARASHANKO was neatly hidden (you never know where the goat will deliver), so he doesn't shine. Americans keep their deer clean, in the hope that it will remain clean.
  16. Vyacheslav 64
    Vyacheslav 64 April 14 2014 20: 47
    +20
    Soviet landing, it is in Ukraine, Soviet landing !!!
    1. Sigizbarn
      Sigizbarn April 15 2014 00: 23
      +2



      The Marine Corps also fails
  17. family tree
    family tree April 14 2014 20: 48
    +3
    Obviously, they are not newcomers in this business, but where they could have acted before is unknown, "the American correspondent emphasizes.
    belay Well, spruce trees! Where could they ?! Well, you can’t be so near to a correspondent! what Although, on the other hand, the American ...
  18. Pastor
    Pastor April 14 2014 20: 50
    +2
    of course, there are adults who distinguish white from black .. and not derelicts from the Maidan
  19. andrei332809
    andrei332809 April 14 2014 20: 52
    +5
    soooo ... it seems, zadopodusy include the back, trying not to lose the face of the face. probably do not want SO frankly in the blood to smear
  20. Boricello
    Boricello April 14 2014 20: 52
    +5
    Generally a terrible picture. We must pay tribute to the Russians do not have hatred of the Ukrainians (I do not mean the authorities). For how they hate us there. You go to the forums and eyes climb on the forehead. There is no Ukraine and this is a fact. The east is afraid of the west and center. And those fiercely hate the east. What does their hatred border on violent insanity. Here it is cheated geyropa and striped. They have already completed their task. Russia has received on its border an enemy who, not having the strength to destroy you, will poison your life. Putin would turn this situation around. That would be a gift for geyrope. A year later, the European Union would not have been with such a gift.
    1. alexng
      alexng April 15 2014 02: 01
      0
      Not yet evening. He is still calm, so there is a workpiece. Recently, everything that the West does not do, everything works against the West itself. The trend, however.
  21. Monk
    Monk April 14 2014 20: 54
    +5
    - Do you see the green men?
    - Not
    - And I do not see, but they are there.
    1. Ruswolf
      Ruswolf April 14 2014 21: 18
      +5
      Monk
      And I don’t see, but they are there.

      Appear after the fifth glass. But not everyone manages to live up to this miracle.
      1. f.lourens
        f.lourens April 14 2014 23: 43
        +1
        Come along with a cute fluffy rodent wassat
      2. yur
        yur April 15 2014 00: 16
        +2
        Quote: Ruswolf
        Appear after the fifth glass. But not everyone manages to live up to this miracle.
        Whose is that?
        The fifth glass is not even the middle of "rest". drinks yes
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  22. SHOCK.
    SHOCK. April 14 2014 20: 55
    +4
    Let them puzzle over “who organizes, who directs, who leads?” Solid questions. But who leads the junta, there are no questions. Although the staff of the CIA in Kiev is simply surprising.
    (a) A former professional Komsomol member, closely associated with the KGB, was in the cage of General M-k, who worked for the CIA, and now represents the interests of this office in Ukraine (in particular, the main scriptwriter of the "Gongadze case" and the organizer of the "Melnichenko tapes").

    (b) A believer of the Messianic style, who rode his brains on mysticism. A consistent and unyielding hater of the rule of law. Now the patron of one of the rare Protestant sects, but before he was defined, he was the "elder" of the Satanists, he visited the "White Brotherhood", promoted the ideas of Pastor Sanday Adelaj. Adept of the "End of the World as Purification" theory.

    (c) Finished cocainist; according to rumors, it was he who planted Lady Yu on coke

    (d) A person is extremely cunning, sneaky, resourceful, defining (quote) "his morality with the advice of the Almighty and the consciousness of his special mission", and therefore an absolute fatalist.
  23. Kar Karych
    Kar Karych April 14 2014 20: 55
    +5
    Ukraine does not object to conducting a joint anti-terrorist operation with the UN peacekeeping forces in the East of our country, "the press service of the Verkhovna Rada quoted A. Turchinov as saying on Monday.

    Bullshit, UN forces do not participate in anti-terrorist operations.
    1. Anisim1977
      Anisim1977 April 14 2014 21: 22
      0
      Perhaps he meant Russia and Belarus ????? am
    2. Drshan
      Drshan April 15 2014 02: 01
      0
      So they all rave there.
  24. 1goose3
    1goose3 April 14 2014 20: 56
    +3
    CNN: Donetsk activists are not associated with Moscow

    We all agree with that. But CNN has never suffered from truth. This is some kind of game. Most likely by the principle: A little truth, and then a bucket of lies. We will wait, this will be confirmed very soon.
  25. Yuri Y.
    Yuri Y. April 14 2014 20: 57
    +4
    Obviously, they are not new to this business, but where they could have acted before is unknown. "

    The golden eagle was dispersed, and another 30% of the Ministry of Internal Affairs were going to fire (they are digging a hole for themselves), and the employees themselves move (not local or something). Yes, and the army used to be a conscript, more officers were retired to the reserve during overtruding over the years. I have no doubt that there are many real specialists. Even a high probability that "would be glad to serve, curry favor".
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  28. SV
    SV April 14 2014 20: 59
    +4
    I could be wrong, but the situation resembles the threshold of the First World War. The goal is the involvement of Russia in the war and as a result / minimum / its weakening, / maximum / destruction. There, a bet was made on Yugoslavia in the link that the Russian Empire would not leave the fraternal people; Now Ukraine and a similar binding ,,,,
    1. lukke
      lukke April 14 2014 22: 57
      0
      I could be wrong, but the situation resembles the threshold of the First World War. The goal is to draw Russia into the war
      Yes, it seems that the rival’s not the same scale ... Europe is more likely to be estranged from us, our normal economic relations, and, well, they put a pig side by side in view of the current situation in Ukraine. In general, no one is profitable, except for Uncle Sam
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  29. morpogr
    morpogr April 14 2014 21: 01
    +10
    Could it be that they saw the light or was so influenced by the Russian spring that they realized that power is in truth.
  30. parus2nik
    parus2nik April 14 2014 21: 03
    +5
    Nick Payton Walsh has one doubt. This is the one who leads the disparate self-defense units
    When on the Maidan, so by itself ... no one leads, a single popular impulse .. wink As against the Maidan, so someone leads .., disparate units .. smile
    1. stalkerwalker
      stalkerwalker April 14 2014 22: 31
      +3
      Quote: parus2nik
      Nick Payton Walsh has one doubt. This is the one who leads the disparate self-defense units
      When on the Maidan, so itself ... no one leads, a single popular impulse .. As against the Maidan, so someone leads .., scattered groups.

      It is very difficult to look for a black cat in a dark room, especially when she is not there ... laughing
  31. renics
    renics April 14 2014 21: 06
    +3
    . Europe requires Russia to condemn the actions of residents of eastern Ukraine. This, what else is for imperative notes, even if they are in their European Union commanding someone to condemn and who not. They condemned a lot of Bandera, or the illegal seizure of power in Ukraine, apparently waiting for all to start sending them with a three-letter word.
  32. Sergey S.
    Sergey S. April 14 2014 21: 08
    +1
    Quote: parus2nik
    Nick Payton Walsh has one doubt. This is the one who leads the scattered self-defense unitsWhen on the Maidan, it’s so ... no one is leading, a single popular impulse .. As against the Maidan, so someone is leading .., the scattered troops ..

    And we have no doubt!
  33. combat66
    combat66 April 14 2014 21: 10
    +2
    "They are quite well armed and indeed show a significant level of organization. Obviously, they are not new to this business, but where they could have acted before is unknown," the American correspondent emphasizes.
    Amused, dear. And the poor fellow does not know that soldiers and officers are not measured there, no longer boys who received their "education" far from refined West Point. And the planning and organization of competent officers will be organized like two fingers ..... And taking into account the high motivation ..... In short, Miss Turchinov and ala gop. company .... write letters to relatives (farewell).
  34. onegin61
    onegin61 April 14 2014 21: 15
    +4
    The west and south-east of Ukraine will never agree, as a result, a civil war will take place, which will result in the formation of paramilitary groups, formations, detachments, power structures subordinate to one or the other side. The existing confrontation will continue until finally the parties, seeing hopelessness the provisions do not agree on the division of Ukraine into the western part - Ukraine (Lviv, Ternopil and Rivne regional central part with Kiev) and Little Russia-south, southeastern part, with the definition of borders and all other attributes ov (following the example of the separation of Czechoslovakia). Here's how. Any force intervention in this process by the United States and the West will be sharply countered by the immediate deployment of the Russian military contingent to assist the Russian and Russian-speaking citizens of Ukraine in their treatment.
    1. dzau
      dzau April 14 2014 21: 46
      0
      Quote: Onegin61
      West and south-east of Ukraine will never agree, as a result, a civil war will take place

      Will agree. Persuade))
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  35. 1812 1945
    1812 1945 April 14 2014 21: 20
    +1
    Is it worth it to breed polites with them? Connected with Moscow ... Not connected ... What is their relationship with .... (female dogs) business? Anglo-Saxons themselves must repent to the end of the world before all of humanity. (As, however, all Germans ...)
  36. Ruswolf
    Ruswolf April 14 2014 21: 24
    +1
    Now it remains to be done, as in an old, good joke!
    And as soon as the guardsmen Turchinov and Yaytsek go. That the militias need to put on portraits of Obama Turchinov Yatsenyukh Yarosh. And hide behind them.
  37. konvalval
    konvalval April 14 2014 21: 32
    0
    Well, finally some eyes opened. But they didn’t see their friends there from PMCs?
    1. Andrey82
      Andrey82 April 14 2014 21: 36
      +1
      [quote = konvalval] Well, finally, some have opened their eyes. Was it interesting they didn’t see their PMCs there? Let them make excuses.
  38. Demo
    Demo April 14 2014 21: 36
    +6
    Quote: infinite silence ...
    Even if there is no weapon ... by fortitude!




    ONE IN THE FIELD THE WARRIOR KOLI IN RUSSIAN IS TRAINED !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  39. iliitchitch
    iliitchitch April 14 2014 21: 36
    +2
    Judging by the situation, the people started up seriously. Along the way and without the introduction of troops, the gopniks will be shaken. He would now have an intelligent (Real) Colonel in the role of a temporary (before the referendum, and then before the election) dictator ... Not a single scum will pickle.
  40. Militia
    Militia April 14 2014 21: 42
    0
    Can it be that CNN's eyes have seen the light? Themselves were surprised. And Turchinov didn’t bother, then he began to deflate if he called on the UN officials to solve the problem of "separatists" in the southeast. This is already pleasing.
  41. Vasek
    Vasek April 14 2014 21: 46
    +1
    I remember a couple of months ago the US Secretary of Defense called Yanukovych and warned about using the army against protesters ...
    Isn't it time Kuzhugetich to give a "warning call" to Yatsyk and Turchyk?
  42. Giant thought
    Giant thought April 14 2014 22: 11
    0
    Even Thomas the unbeliever was convinced of the correctness of our words, and what is the strength of our words? In truth !!!
  43. Stinger
    Stinger April 14 2014 22: 12
    +1
    These dumbheads, obsessed with money, will not understand in any way that the miners will not joke. And the organization is not the same as that of office plankton, and acts for its own, hard-earned, and not for cookies.
  44. 51064
    51064 April 14 2014 22: 36
    0
    Quote: Egoza
    Birch also said that now more than 1 thousand volunteer reservists have signed up for the National Defense Regiment of the Dnipropetrovsk Region. Partial mobilization of men with registered firearms has now been extended in the region. He hopes that from 7 to 15 thousand people can be mobilized in the region.

    Sick people do everything to start a civil war. Isn’t it easier to negotiate and save Ukraine? No, they rested on a horn - either ours or nothing, well then nothing. Who did not hide - no one is to blame.
  45. Mainbeam
    Mainbeam April 14 2014 23: 00
    +1
    Here among the militia there are people of different ages. They are in the form of approximately the same species, also without decals. They are quite well armed and really demonstrate a significant level of organization. Obviously, they are not new to this business, but where they could act before that is unknown

    The same is understandable if we assume that retired military men are engaged in all this. And polite people.
    http://kri.com.ua/11463-otrjady-grazhdanskojj-samooborony-v-krivom-roge.html
    The main burden and responsibility for the organization of civil self-defense units in the city was assumed by 2 organizations - the Kryvyi Rih city organization of the Ukrainian Union of Afghanistan Veterans (internationalist warriors) and the Afghanistan Veterans Party.
  46. Simple
    Simple April 14 2014 23: 19
    +2
    Didier Burkhalter, the head of the Swiss Confederation, who arrived in Kiev on an official visit, was met with the flag of another country. Instead of the Swiss flag, the protocol service used the flag of Denmark. Swiss President Didier Burkhalter pointed out a mistake to the Prime Minister of Ukraine Arseniy Yatsenyuk immediately before the protocol handshake. However, according to Swiss media reports, Burkhalter perceived the incident with humor. Flags of Denmark and Switzerland have some similarities - a white cross on a red background. However, the Swiss cross has a different shape, and the flag itself is square.
    Source: http://polemika.com.ua/news-143410.html
    1. voliador
      voliador April 15 2014 01: 01
      +1
      You look at this spectacled face - pidrila-pidriloy.
      1. Drshan
        Drshan April 15 2014 01: 35
        0
        So he is a pastor, Presbyterian.
        1. Poppy
          Poppy April 15 2014 09: 34
          +1
          so it is - pedril
  47. nikcris
    nikcris April 14 2014 23: 19
    0
    Ata in the ass - not Euclidean?
  48. sop.ov
    sop.ov April 14 2014 23: 26
    +3
    ... He defended two days at checkpoints - Saturday and Sunday. On Monday I had to go to work, the workers were given salary while there was cash in the banks. In the middle of the day on Monday I return home through the checkpoints where I stood - I am in A.hu. The trunks were given to pussies who saw weapons only in pictures in ABC books. Hanged from head to toe AK-74, PM-mi and RPG (rather "Flies"). A comrade (the owner of a chain of grocery stores) complained that they bombed his point at night - stupidly, drunkenly, they took the youngsters with weapons to devour and puff. How to disperse this cunt now to their homes - no one will put it down. Adults still have their problems above the roof ... request
    1. Yuri Y.
      Yuri Y. April 15 2014 01: 02
      0
      Yeah .. Well, if you do not disarm, then try to put under supervision (as with the usual with the young). To break up large groups, motivating by some circumstances (different shifts, etc.), to dilute people with experience of life. Moral pressure. Of course, I’m sorry, you can’t advise from afar. But a man with a gun, as you yourself understand, must be within certain disciplinary frameworks. And that they must understand. Otherwise, to sin, and already was.
  49. sop.ov
    sop.ov April 14 2014 23: 26
    0
    ... He defended two days at checkpoints - Saturday and Sunday. On Monday I had to go to work, the workers were given salary while there was cash in the banks. In the middle of the day on Monday I return home through the checkpoints where I stood - I am in A.hu. The trunks were given to pussies who saw weapons only in pictures in ABC books. Hanged from head to toe AK-74, PM-mi and RPG (rather "Flies"). A comrade (the owner of a chain of grocery stores) complained that they bombed his point at night - stupidly, drunkenly, they took the youngsters with weapons to devour and puff. How to disperse this cunt now to their homes - no one will put it down. Adults still have their problems above the roof ... request
  50. Simple
    Simple April 14 2014 23: 35
    +3
    23: 14 / 14.04.2014

    Supporters of the "Right Sector" blocked the building of the Verkhovna Rada, located on Hrushevsky Street in Kiev.

    Several hundred activists lined up in columns came to the parliament building and demanded the resignation of the Acting President of the country, Alexander Turchinov, and the Minister of the Interior, Arsen Avakov, appointed by the Rada.

    In addition, they demanded that the authorities allow Ukraine to carry weapons and freely purchase weapons, as well as provide Ukrainians with a weekly report on government activities.

    Protesters brought tires to the parliament building and set fire to several of them.

    They put forward an ultimatum to the leadership of the country - to appear on Grushevsky Street within an hour. Otherwise, activists threaten to storm the building.

    http://lifenews.ru/news/131253

    PS The Provisional Government of Ukraine sits deeper and deeper on the count.