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Kharkiv can not understand the actions of Kiev

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Kharkiv can not understand the actions of Kiev



In Kharkov - general arrests: the Kiev authorities staged a real hunt for supporters of federalization. Approximately 100 people are already behind the bars - one of those who expressed no confidence in the regional council and proclaimed the creation of Kharkiv People's Republic. Stripping in the near future will begin in law enforcement. Maidan Interior Minister Avakov has already promised to dismiss almost half of the police because they did not want to fight with fellow citizens.

On Freedom Square all day they demanded the release of activists of the Kharkov self-defense. The day in Kharkov began with a massive sweep. First, activists were detained, who at night once again captured the regional council. About a hundred people were in the building - all of them, as the eyewitnesses say, were handcuffed and loaded onto a bus.

The Interior Ministry said all the detainees were placed in jail. Nobody really knows what. Relatives of the militia cannot communicate with them. There is evidence that supporters of federalization were taken to other cities.

The city is undergoing a police operation. There is a non-resident, and perhaps even foreign special forces. The citizens heard people in black unmarked and in masks talking to each other in English. Criminal proceedings are already being instituted against the detainees for organizing mass riots.

The footage shot in another district of Kharkov shows how activists with St. George ribbons were laid on the asphalt. Everything withdrawn from them weapon - wooden stick and air gun. At night, the Kharkiv residents of the regional administration took the building by storm. Police crossed the line, used clubs, tear gas and smoke grenades. After 5 minutes, the building flared up.

Activists say: at some point, the police began to push them out of the building. The guards used water cannons. Kharkiv surrounded and burned tires, dumped on the porch. The fire on the wall got to the top floor. Black smoke from burning tires through open doors and broken windows fills the building. The policemen simply smoked out of the council house — they left through the back door.

The townspeople again occupy the administration and hang out the Russian flag. The administration building at one o'clock is one and a half thousand people. People can no longer look calmly at what is happening in the city. The townspeople are sure that the guards who were ordered to use force were not from the local, they were brought from Poltava on several buses by order of Arsen Avakov, who arrived in the city to suppress the uprising. Citizens block one of these buses on the street. Another bus with special forces locals threw stones.

Around the same time, activists with ribbons of St. George burst into the office of the city television channel ATN. Kicked out the door on the ninth floor. In the central hardware - only technical staff. Citizens demand to stop broadcasting of the channel, replicas are heard that “the channel belongs to Mr. Avakov - the self-appointed minister”, and that “the channel spreads lies and provokes conflicts”.

The militiamen do not break anything, calmly inspect the office, study the photos in the corridor, and the literature in the office of the management about Maidan and its leaders. Kharkiv are ready to nominate their candidates - from among the deputies. On the eve of the alternative was formed Rada.
The current regional parliament does not want to hear the voice of the people. New deputies voted unanimously for the proclamation of a sovereign state - Kharkiv People's Republic.

“Today, we, the Kharkiv People’s Republic, are calling for a strike and arriving at the square,” says people's deputy of the Kharkiv Regional State Administration Dmitry Kovalev. “We know that this is technically possible.”

The deputies decided to consider the declaration of sovereignty valid after the general referendum. Meanwhile, it is already clear: the arrests in the city will not stop. And in a more quiet time, those who disagreed with the new government were brought to justice. One of the leaders of "Antimaydan" Ignat Kromskoy, nicknamed Topaz, who was placed under house arrest, went on the run. He either went underground, or left the country. Those who are now being taken into custody are unlikely to be allowed to go home.

Minister Avakov boasted on the Internet that the seizures of activists go smoothly and without firing a shot. It's true. Militiamen with batons are unlikely to oppose machine gunners. In addition, the head of the Ministry of Internal Affairs is not satisfied with how the local law enforcement officers have been working all this time: they, apparently, did not sufficiently severely disperse the protesters. In some cases, for example, during clashes with the radicals of the Right Sector, the policemen openly sided with the townspeople. A third of Kharkov law enforcement officers Avakov is going to dismiss for sabotage.
Kharkiv residents repulsed special forces on Chernyshevsky street

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  1. maks-101
    maks-101 April 8 2014 21: 44
    +14
    Kharkov is a little unorganized, it seems that they do not have a leader.
    1. svetlomor
      svetlomor April 8 2014 21: 49
      +22
      It seems that the majority still have money, when the hunger riots begin, they will not frighten them with anything.
      1. Siberian19
        Siberian19 April 8 2014 21: 54
        +41
        http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2014/483/xgej249.jpg
    2. polite people
      polite people April 8 2014 21: 51
      +18
      I wonder who it is.
      Guys, you obviously need our help.
      1. Siberian19
        Siberian19 April 8 2014 22: 16
        +7
        FOREIGN Mercenaries in KHARKIV
        Foreign mercenaries work in the uniform of Jaguar fighters in Kharkov. Ukrainian policemen reported that the special forces who arrived from Kiev to clean the building of the Regional State Administration of the Kharkiv region do not know Russian and Ukrainian.
        In Kharkov, more and more people come to the central square. Tents appeared near the building of the regional state administration. Nearby are people with weapons, some of them have not uttered a word since morning and turn away every time someone calls on them.
        One of the Kharkiv police officers working near the Regional State Administration building told LifeNews that foreigners are working in the uniform of the Jaguar special forces, which are usually used to suppress internal protests, in particular prison riots.
        “They don’t speak Russian and do not understand Ukrainian,” the LifeNews interlocutor says in uniform. - They are silent all the time and avoid contact even with us.
        On the morning of April 8, at the direction of the new Ukrainian authorities, a special operation was carried out to suppress the protest in Kharkov. Armed fighters broke into the building of the Regional State Administration and ousted Kharkov citizens. More than 70 people were taken to an unknown destination.
        Arsen Avakov, Minister of the Interior, personally appointed by the illegitimate parliament, issued the cleansing orders. He also later reported that the operation went "smoothly" and without casualties. However, his statements were immediately denied by anti-Maidan activists, who spoke about their losses. According to them, law enforcement officers acted very harshly and used firearms and grenades. Wounded protesters are afraid to go to hospitals because of possible repression ..lifenews.ru / news / 130833
        1. Gloria45
          Gloria45 April 8 2014 22: 51
          +5
          In Kharkov - general arrests: the Kiev authorities staged a real hunt for supporters of federalization. Approximately 100 people are already behind the bars - one of those who expressed no confidence in the regional council and proclaimed the creation of Kharkiv People's Republic. Stripping in the near future will begin in law enforcement. Maidan Interior Minister Avakov has already promised to dismiss almost half of the police because they did not want to fight with fellow citizens.

          PACE recognizes the legitimacy of the new authorities of Ukraine, condemns the international media for reports of human rights violations there, as well as Russia for military intervention and the rigged results of the referendum in Crimea and Sevastopol. This is stated in the preliminary draft resolution of PACE “Recent developments in Ukraine: a threat to the functioning of democratic institutions” (Izvestia has it at its disposal), which will decide on April 10 the fate of the stay of the Russian delegation in Strasbourg. According to Russian parliamentarians, the anti-Russian tonality of the document, as well as its appeal to NATO countries, speaks of a threat to international security and a deep crisis in international relations.

          The preliminary version of the draft resolution “Recent developments in Ukraine: a threat to the functioning of democratic institutions” contains 18 points. In them, the assembly expresses its position on the most, in its opinion, significant issues relating to the situation in Ukraine and the referendum on self-determination of Crimea and Sevastopol, which did not recognize the revolutionaries from the Maidan and on March 16 officially became part of Russia.

          Thus, PACE regrets the dramatic events in Ukraine, condemns the "involvement of snipers by the Ukrainian authorities," calling for a thorough investigation of all deaths. MEPs acknowledge that the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine played a constructive role in resolving the political situation in the country. It showed solidarity and mutual understanding, and managed to cope with the “difficult moment of the change of power”.

          “In this way, PACE fully recognizes the legitimacy of the new authorities in Kiev and the legitimacy of their decisions,” the assembly’s document says, regretting attempts to cast doubt on the legitimacy of this government.

          According to European parliamentarians, it is precisely thanks to the coup that the inhabitants of Ukraine have the opportunity to create a democratic system of governing the country. In this regard, PACE calls on the Verkhovna Rada to use the achieved unique cohesion of society in order to immediately adopt amendments to the Constitution and bring it in line with Council of Europe standards. True, at the same time, PACE recognizes the fact that as a result of the coup, many groups of the Ukrainian population are not represented in power today. This, according to the resolution, should fix the election.

          PACE is also very worried by the growth of "unfounded news" by the international media "about violation of the rights of minorities in Ukraine", which allegedly "create a negative image for the new government." Such messages, the resolution says, undermine the unity and stability of the country.

          In conclusion, PACE regrets that "what is happening in Crimea overshadowed the democratic changes in Ukraine." The Assembly "condemns Russian military aggression and the ensuing annexation of Crimea." This, according to the European MPs, is contrary to international law. According to PACE, not one of the arguments that the Russian Federation uses to justify its actions is a priori true.

          It’s impossible to read to the end without valerian
        2. Name
          Name April 8 2014 23: 59
          0
          Quote: Siberian19
          foreign mercenaries work in Kharkiv uniforms of "Jaguar" fighters

          How would it be nice to grab at least one, but ask ... winked
          1. sergei- morjak
            sergei- morjak April 9 2014 00: 43
            +2
            I don’t understand, is it really so hard to guess just to rip off their masks from these freaks! After all, you will immediately see who is who.
          2. ARS56
            ARS56 April 9 2014 05: 52
            +6
            Not one. Take the group and interrogate. According to their - American rules - with an addiction, as they used to do with others ...
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        3. mamont5
          mamont5 April 9 2014 04: 24
          +1
          Quote: Siberian19
          Ukrainian police reported that commandos who arrived from Kiev to clean up the building of the Regional State Administration of the Kharkiv Region did not know Russian and Ukrainian.

          Well, you need to capture at least one specimen for a detailed acquaintance with this biological species. Who is he? Pure western-style Ukrainian or ordinary amer?
          1. ARS56
            ARS56 April 9 2014 05: 54
            +1
            Do not skip - it means Amer Vulgaris.
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      2. jjj
        jjj April 8 2014 22: 19
        +8
        There is not enough Russian camouflage. So a hundred people would dress up as polite people. Put up with weapons in several places. The information wave will go by itself.
        In the meantime, there is a mess in Kharkov. And people - Kharkiv - do not want to completely cut off Kiev like a chunk so far. Time, repression and spilled blood - will reason and make you actively advocate for your future. But without armed organized people - all these events will not have complete power
      3. vlum
        vlum April 8 2014 23: 07
        -2
        somewhere in the posts I saw messages that there are many visitors and almost no local ones.
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    6. zzz
      zzz April 8 2014 22: 38
      +9
      From Kharkov:
      1. Andryukha Siberian
        Andryukha Siberian April 9 2014 07: 01
        +1
        Why were the Majdaun freaks called democratic forces, and these people are separatists and terrorists. Because they do not have masks on their faces (unlike those), they do not have batons, Molotov cocktails in their hands, weapons (unlike those), they do not require put someone on a stake, they don’t destroy monuments, they don’t burn buildings, they don’t call for war. So why are separatist terrorists? Why don't these fucking PACE and OSCE see violations of civil rights and freedoms now?
    7. Monk
      Monk April 8 2014 22: 42
      +14
      Kharkov fell due to the fact that the two gentlemen Kernes and Dobkin muddied the situation there and misled people, it was clear that the Cossacks were bought.
      1. Gloria45
        Gloria45 April 8 2014 22: 53
        +9
        Statement of militias from the building of #SBU # Lugansk 08.04.14/XNUMX/XNUMX
      2. Ascetic
        Ascetic April 8 2014 22: 56
        +18
        Quote: Monk
        what bought Cossacks.


        Faithful vassals of the combinator Beni Kolomoyshi .. Dopa and Gepa


        Well, our "belolentochniki" are working out grants with might and main ...

        ANNA-News Agency appeals to the coordinators of resistance units of the Kiev junta. Scouts and provocateurs act on your positions. One of them, which identifies activists, their photos and video recordings, is someone working for the USA and the Kiev junta Ilya Azar @ A3AP Please distribute and bring this information to the Resistance!
        This is the special correspondent of the site "Yehu Matzah"
        link

      3. flc9800
        flc9800 April 8 2014 23: 09
        +10
        Kernes - a rare t-in-a-b-r! Moreover, it is written in BIG LETTERS on his face! am
      4. ARS56
        ARS56 April 9 2014 06: 00
        0
        This is an intermediate consequence. And the reason is that people hope to agree with the fascist junta on acceptable conditions of slavery. Or do they think that the Nazis will give them freedom?
        1. Vita_vko
          Vita_vko April 9 2014 09: 18
          0
          Sorry for the arrested guys. This could not be allowed. Avakov and other maydauns are criminals who have long crossed the line by shooting both their own and others on the Maidan. Therefore, they have nothing to lose and to take at least a hundred, even a million, as hostages, it is only a matter of time and energy. Such understand only power. People, of course, came out without weapons, but even unleashing a civil war will not stop either Kiev or the EU, and even more so the USA.
          Therefore, we need a reliable system of self-defense. Otherwise, the khan will be not only Russian, but also the majority of Ukrainians, and the whole southeast will be turned into one big penal servitude.
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  2. Kazanec
    Kazanec April 8 2014 21: 45
    +29
    Damn, the police, well, little you Golden Eagle, openly support the protesters !!!
    1. skrgar
      skrgar April 8 2014 21: 49
      +18
      Quote: Kazanets
      Damn, the police, well, little you Golden Eagle, openly support the protesters !!!

      Yes, perhaps if the local security forces take the side of the protesters, then everything will be decided, and so .. "swing"
      1. ARS56
        ARS56 April 9 2014 06: 05
        +1
        Local security officials are afraid that they will be fired now. And they will be dismissed and imprisoned later, like the Golden Eagle.
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  3. brelok
    brelok April 8 2014 21: 48
    +18
    "A third of Kharkiv law enforcement officers are going to fire Avakov for sabotage." Our regiment has arrived
    1. krpmlws
      krpmlws April 9 2014 06: 27
      +1
      The militiamen see the campaign like Yanukovych and ours and yours, and in the end dismisses their junta ... They need to firmly and irrevocably decide on the people or the fascists.
  4. polite people
    polite people April 8 2014 21: 48
    +22
    Guys take an example from Lugansk.
    And try not to be like these militants with bottles from the Maidan.
    Courage YOU. And God's help.
    1. vadson
      vadson April 8 2014 22: 10
      +15
      in Lugansk, the men said goodbye to their families at home and took communion in the church, they were waiting for guests from the Maidan with weapons, I heard this from Russia 1. what do we have in the end? there will be victims in Lugansk, if the people finish the Maydan people rise and Putin will be given the opportunity not to send troops, but if the guests win? our guarantor will have nowhere to go. although, in Lugansk, serious guys who were airborne, they can burn a convoy in the city.
      1. jjj
        jjj April 8 2014 22: 22
        +9
        It just seems that everyone sitting in one place and waiting for the assault is somehow not ours. They were dispersed in small groups and gave heat back to the approaches. After all, they know how, taught
        1. Little Muck
          Little Muck April 8 2014 22: 26
          +4
          By the way, in their first releases, the guys talked about grenade launchers. I hope they are ready to meet armored personnel carriers. Surely outside the SBU building the guys should have remained for support. To burn equipment even on the approaches.
        2. vadson
          vadson April 8 2014 22: 30
          +7
          on the approaches to what? city? Not sure it's going to happen. if there really are several tanks and armored personnel carriers, what will they do with them in the field with a machine gun, without artillery and RPG (I doubt they have them). but in the city, even from the rooftops, even standing on the balcony without a machine gun and smoking a cigarette, you can throw a cocktail from above. "thanks" to the Chechens, they taught the mind to reason ...
          1. smile
            smile April 8 2014 22: 48
            +3
            vadson
            If competently blocking bridges and traffic interchanges precisely at the approaches, even relatively peaceful actions will greatly complicate the life of the junta’s forces. And they can give time to mobilize self-defense forces and establish coordination of actions. They will also give a serious moral effect - self-defense will believe in itself. But nokhchi cocktails, in general, did not indulge - they had a full RPG.
            1. Little Muck
              Little Muck April 8 2014 22: 54
              +2
              Cocktails are good in urban settings. From the roofs of houses, from balconies and just in close combat. Although if there is no weapon, it is better not to engage in close combat. These scum are going to kill. We must act like our grandfathers in the Second World War.
            2. Corsair
              Corsair April 8 2014 23: 44
              +5
              Quote: smile
              If competently blocking bridges and traffic interchanges precisely at the approaches, even relatively peaceful actions will greatly complicate the life of the junta’s forces. And they can give time to mobilize self-defense forces and establish coordination of actions. They will also give a serious moral effect - self-defense will believe in itself.

              For this, the available forces (and we saw them on the video), it is necessary to correctly disperse and provide noise-immune communication between them in order to coordinate actions.

              In secretive placement of mobile groups on 3-5, I think people will help residents of Lugansk.
              It is necessary to demonstrate what the people are ready to achieve the goal ...
              1. smile
                smile April 9 2014 00: 32
                +1
                Corsair
                I agree.
          2. Wheel
            Wheel April 9 2014 02: 54
            0
            Quote: vadson
            what they will do with them in the field with an automatic machine, without artillery and RPGs (I doubt that they have them).

            In an interview with Life News, the RPGs captured by the SBU were shown.
          3. Dmitry Donskoy
            Dmitry Donskoy April 9 2014 04: 53
            0
            vadson (1) SU Yesterday, 22:30 PM ↑
            on the approaches to what? city? Not sure it's going to happen. if there really are several tanks and armored personnel carriers, what will they do with them in the field with a machine gun, without artillery and RPG (I doubt they have them). but in the city, even from the rooftops, even standing on the balcony without a machine gun and smoking a cigarette, you can throw a cocktail from above. "thanks" to the Chechens, they taught the mind to reason ...

            Yes, it was back in Budapest in 1956 during the Hungarian mutiny that our armored personnel carriers and tanks threw grenades and bottles with flammable liquids from the windows and balconies of high-rise buildings.
      2. zzz
        zzz April 8 2014 22: 44
        +10
        Lugansk April 7:
    2. Anisim1977
      Anisim1977 April 8 2014 22: 14
      +20
      Lugansk partisans MEN!
      If the zombie man is not lying, the men have occupied the SBU, said goodbye to their relatives, took communion and promise (with machine guns in their hands) that they will not give up and are ready for death.
      A low bow to you MEN from Lugansk, and GOD HELP !!!!
    3. zzz
      zzz April 8 2014 22: 41
      +15
      Oleg Ignatenko 22.23
      URGENT REPOST !!!!

      THE CHIEF OF THE LUGAN REGIONAL HOSPITAL RECEIVED THE ORDER FROM THE MINISTRY OF HEALTH TO PREPARE A QUESTION OF PLACE.

      PREPARING FOR THE STORM OR AT NIGHT OR IN THE MORNING. IN LUGANSK 93 US MERCEDARS, 300 MERCEDARS IN DONETSK - STAFF OF THE SOUTH-EAST ARMY

      LUGANSK - RISE !!! EVERYTHING ON THE SOVIET !!! CHANGE PEOPLE !!!!

      OUR GRANDFATES 4 YEARS WERE FORWARD AND KILLED THE FASCIST SCAR - WE WILL NOT SHAM THE MEMORY OF OUR GREAT ANCESTORS !!!!
      ONE FOR ALL AND ALL FOR ONE
      1. zzz
        zzz April 8 2014 22: 56
        +9
        CROSS.

        For Holy Russia
        08.04/XNUMX. Operational information for Donetsk :: Important !!
        (information reliability 50%)

        Call the guys who barricaded themselves in the Donetsk Regional State Administration. There may be a journalist from the 5th US column in Russia - "Echo of Moscow" - Ilya Azar. Introduces himself as a journalist from Moscow. He is looking for incriminating evidence among the militia - for the liberal and Western media. He can also cooperate with the SBU to transfer operational information to them and adjust the special forces snipers !! We post his photo.

        If there is such a person, you yourself know what needs to be done.
    4. Corsair
      Corsair April 8 2014 23: 38
      0
      Quote: polite people
      And try not to be like these militants with bottles from the Maidan.
      Courage YOU. And God's help.

      God is merciful and omnipotent, but with the word of God on his lips, BARE HANDS, armored vehicles cannot be stopped ...
  5. Rurikovich
    Rurikovich April 8 2014 21: 48
    +7
    If this trampling on the spot didn’t come out sideways ... what
  6. vezunchik
    vezunchik April 8 2014 21: 49
    +15
    did the cops wait? This is a fascist coup - they will not spare anyone !!! Until the people understand this, only will not be! NO ONE WILL SAY OUT !!! REMEMBER GERMANY 30X !!!!
  7. Little Muck
    Little Muck April 8 2014 21: 50
    +8
    Yes, it's time to carry out sabotage actions.
    Start burning scum. There is gasoline, fire engines too.
    Refuel and fill everything where it is located, and set it on fire.
    Surviving survivors.
    Brunswick will make it possible to act from a distance.
  8. konvalval
    konvalval April 8 2014 21: 50
    +8
    The rampage of the gangster junta continues. The bandit power does everything so that the patience of the people bursts and a civil war begins. this is probably the script that is written in the euro. Very sorry for those arrested. These bastards can do anything with them.
  9. Normman
    Normman April 8 2014 21: 50
    +16
    The West is hysterical, so guys are doing everything right!
  10. FC SKIF
    FC SKIF April 8 2014 21: 52
    +12
    There are more good people, but bad ones are better organized. 100%
  11. ASASHOKA
    ASASHOKA April 8 2014 22: 00
    +6
    On the question of the leader! Unfortunately, there is no LEADER in the entire territory of the south-east of Ukraine! There are weak activists who are supported by several thousand people. Based on the fact that 53-58% of the inhabitants of the south-east of Ukraine are women (statistics), then one can understand what kind of "forces" they are.
    To go with a common front - something can be resolved, but since now it is very weak. As they humiliated them, they will continue to do so. Various "Akhmetovs" and hedgehogs with them, aligarhs-peacemakers, stir up and knock down the ardor of the same activists, and sometimes they buy some "anti-Maidan supporters".
  12. parus2nik
    parus2nik April 8 2014 22: 00
    +4
    Why are we silent ... why not declare to the World: You see, the "democracy" of the Maydan in action ... the bill went to a hundred ... was it the "gangster" government that arrested the Maidan people? the pretext that we cannot supply, due to the presence of the Nazi regime in Ukraine ..
    1. lelikas
      lelikas April 8 2014 22: 07
      +5
      Quote: parus2nik
      Why are we silent ... why not tell the World

      So the whole "world" and so knows everything, but it is not the people who are dear to him, so let them continue ... Now, if the right sector with the police beat pid0rasov ....
  13. serega.fedotov
    serega.fedotov April 8 2014 22: 00
    +8
    Dismissing the majority of police officers is a good idea! Organized militias will immediately appear on the boricades!
  14. kirillovleva
    kirillovleva April 8 2014 22: 01
    -7
    kill Avakov and his whole retinue, SBU and, most importantly, members of their families
    1. smile
      smile April 8 2014 22: 56
      +6
      kirillovleva
      Lyova, and the women of these villains, along with the children, what prevented you? Do you even think you wrote? Interestingly, why did you emphasize that the death of family members of SBU officials is the main thing? There are doubts about your adequacy ... very mildly.
      I'm not talking about the fact that the elimination of guys like Avakov will not do anything ... nothing at all - there is still a crowd of such Avakov in line and drooling in his place ....
      1. Al_lexx
        Al_lexx April 8 2014 23: 37
        +4
        Quote: smile
        kirillovleva
        Lyova, and the women of these villains, along with the children, what prevented you? Do you even think you wrote? Interestingly, why did you emphasize that the death of family members of SBU officials is the main thing? There are doubts about your adequacy ... very mildly.
        I'm not talking about the fact that the elimination of guys like Avakov will not do anything ... nothing at all - there is still a crowd of such Avakov in line and drooling in his place ....

        +1

        There is nothing to add, except to suspect a provocateur and simply banal inadequacy in this lion.
      2. DNR
        DNR April 8 2014 23: 51
        +3
        Never mind. This is just a provocation.
    2. sergkar
      sergkar April 9 2014 01: 05
      +1
      I very much doubt that Avakov (judging by his orientation) has a family. Well, unless if only for the facade. So female tears for him are unlikely to be. Only gay.
  15. Officer
    Officer April 8 2014 22: 01
    +5
    Judging by the latest news, it’s time for our nuclear submarines to advance to the Atlantic.
    1. dvina71
      dvina71 April 8 2014 22: 05
      +4
      They are already there .. for several years already ... on duty.
    2. Dmitry Donskoy
      Dmitry Donskoy April 9 2014 05: 08
      +1
      Why to the Atlantic? Send a couple of submarines to accompany the Amer destroyers who are now in the Black Sea. Let them be under surveillance and fear that the Russians can fuck at any moment.
  16. semuil
    semuil April 8 2014 22: 01
    +4
    Strange, the title of the article "Kharkovites cannot understand Kiev's actions", are they slow-witted? You need to act, not reason.
  17. kirillovleva
    kirillovleva April 8 2014 22: 02
    +5
    you need to take weapons and polls cut all sent cops and PMCs
  18. vezunchik
    vezunchik April 8 2014 22: 02
    +16

    Waiting for the assault
    1. Azat Babai
      Azat Babai April 8 2014 22: 31
      0
      That's how it is am
  19. Azat Babai
    Azat Babai April 8 2014 22: 03
    +6
    The footage shot in another district of Kharkov shows how activists with St. George ribbons were laid on asphalt. All the weapons seized from them are a wooden baton and an air gun. It was clear that it would be so, but where are the cocktails? After all, they showed how this is done, on the Maidan.
  20. ya.seliwerstov2013
    ya.seliwerstov2013 April 8 2014 22: 03
    +11
    The police of Kharkov, the shoulder straps for many cannot be saved, but it is necessary to preserve the Honor! Speak with the people !!!!
    1. vezunchik
      vezunchik April 8 2014 22: 11
      +5
      if they have it
  21. Viktori1
    Viktori1 April 8 2014 22: 04
    +2
    washed handles itch while looking at the last photo
  22. Ilotan
    Ilotan April 8 2014 22: 05
    +6
    They just reported: according to the security officials, in Luhansk, pro-Russian persons in the SBU building "are forcibly holding about 60 hostages." This is, for sure, an excuse to justify the use of weapons in the assault on a building.
    1. vezunchik
      vezunchik April 8 2014 22: 11
      +6
      The fortifications located around the USBU have grown several times since yesterday, UNIAN reports. Barricades consist of garbage, improvised means, tires, fences. Protesters also load sand into bags and strengthen defenses.

      From the side of the Donbass transport stop, women with icons stand in a living chain, blocking the passage of security forces. Near the barricades, bottles are seen that look similar to Molotov cocktails. Deployed field kitchen. There are about a thousand active rallies, and in the park opposite the SBU, about a thousand are just spectators. There are children and women.
    2. Dmitry Donskoy
      Dmitry Donskoy April 9 2014 05: 10
      0
      Yes this nonsense! There are no hostages in the SBU building. Indeed, they simply escalate the situation.
  23. vst6
    vst6 April 8 2014 22: 07
    +4
    It is necessary to act decisively even without weapons; one must turn to the army and police after the proclamation of a republic so that the people would be supported then by the Maydan people not to poke their head.
    1. PSih2097
      PSih2097 April 8 2014 22: 46
      +4
      Quote: vst6
      It is necessary to act decisively even without weapons; one must turn to the army and police after the proclamation of a republic so that the people would be supported then by the Maydan people not to poke their head.

      You are right, it is necessary to raise military units and begin to withdraw equipment, and the storekeepers begin to recall their military high schools
  24. ambiorix
    ambiorix April 8 2014 22: 09
    +21
    Lugank has risen !!!
    Thousands of men rush to the SBU building to help the defenders. What does not have some kind of goposhpana like on the Maidan.
    Healthy, mature men, Afghan veterans, former policemen, Berkutovtsy, vvshniki!


    1. repytw
      repytw April 8 2014 22: 18
      +7
      Give them all weapons and expand the list of captured objects, and it’s better to get banderlogged in the event of an assault to strike in the back.
    2. Bosk
      Bosk April 8 2014 22: 24
      +4
      Guys are going well!
    3. Turkestan
      Turkestan April 8 2014 22: 59
      +4
      If these guys are armed, then a full-blooded motorized rifle regiment in wartime states. You can fight with these guys
      1. ammunition
        ammunition April 9 2014 07: 09
        0
        I hope that the "Army of the South-East" understands that it is vital
        establish discipline and a clear management system.
        Appoint commanders and their deputies. Develop the best tactics. To establish military service .. Well, where is it suitable when the commander says that he did not sleep for three days! ((( How will he fight ?
        ------------
        It.d.it.d.
        --------------
        AK74 is good. But you need a PC and you need to create a platoon of snipers from the best shooters, with SVD rifles. A pair of reconnaissance platoons are needed.
        -------
        A lot of what is needed. Supply, medical service, technical service, etc.
        -------------
        I think - they understand all this ..
        And most importantly - Tactics and discipline. Accordingly to the tasks.
        ----------
        Why are they sitting in the SBU building? Tactical move? ..
        -------------
        God help them!
        That's just ... Without Russian intervention, they can’t hold out for too long. And interference .. it can happen.
  25. hhhhhhh
    hhhhhhh April 8 2014 22: 11
    +1
    Everyone is not transplanted. Feeding will end-let out.
    1. Corsair
      Corsair April 8 2014 23: 23
      +2
      Quote: hhhhhhh
      Everyone is not transplanted. Feeding will end-let out.

      Remember the story of Nazi concentration camps ...
  26. KAPITANUS
    KAPITANUS April 8 2014 22: 11
    +10
    Slavic spirit he wakes up! They wake up the bear slowly, scratch it, bite it, well, it will soon WAKE UP, and then RUN!
  27. erased
    erased April 8 2014 22: 13
    +8
    Not having accurate information from Kharkov and other cities of the East, I can’t say for sure, but all these protest movements are not very numerous. Either there is no full support among the people, or there many do not care. Yes, the East of Little Russia is not the Crimea, it was easier to block. You cannot close the roads here. But it was possible to prevent the entry of the Nazis and their servants by putting up pickets.
    The local asset is not organized, communication, interaction are not debugged, there is no single center and battle groups. The issue of armament is not resolved. And so in almost all of the East.
    They still do not understand that no one will talk to them, they will simply be killed. The first hundred counts disappeared, and this was the most asset.
    In a word, soon we will see the stripping and suppression of the dissenters in the best style of the Nazis with adaptation to the States.
    1. komod77
      komod77 April 8 2014 23: 53
      +2
      You're right. There are few active protesters. Several hundred people, although "a few" is said strongly - 3-4 hundreds. Even less resisting! Crushed, don't go to grandma. If it were not for the weapons in Lugansk, they would have “cleaned up” long ago as in Kharkov. Help will come from the Russian Federation if the attackers open fire, but they know it too, so they will take it by starvation or special means.
    2. DNR
      DNR April 9 2014 00: 09
      +3
      I think you are right in saying that resistance is small.
      This was seen months ago.
      Relatives in families with different opinions. (I experienced it myself). Old people would like to go to Russia. They think it will be easier for them.
      And young people mainly support the junta. Therefore, there is no one to resist.
      They themselves must understand what they signed up for. Only understanding, it seems, will not come soon and not to everyone ...
      Even if federalization does take place, and perhaps the Crimean scenario, there will still be many people in the Southeast who will consider Russia an occupier.
      Therefore, Russia needs to make very balanced decisions. And as much as possible to discredit the junta in the eyes of the population (the language did not turn to call it "the people").
      Courage to those who expect to win in this situation.
  28. Cossacks
    Cossacks April 8 2014 22: 14
    +1
    I always thought better of Kharkiv.
  29. svp67
    svp67 April 8 2014 22: 16
    +5
    Oh, they can run into. In Kharkov, there are two tank factories ... more "defense" of any ...
  30. Azat Babai
    Azat Babai April 8 2014 22: 17
    0
    The footage shot in another district of Kharkov shows how activists with St. George ribbons were laid on asphalt. All the weapons seized from them are a wooden baton and an air gun. It was clear that it would be so, but where are the cocktails? After all, they showed how this is done, on the Maidan. There is no turning back. request
  31. polite people
    polite people April 8 2014 22: 18
    +3
    On civilians with machine guns.
    1. DMB-78
      DMB-78 April 8 2014 22: 32
      0
      Quote: polite people
      On civilians with machine guns.

      and Janek was afraid of the golden eagle to give out weapons. oh, these machines are not good. if only they are with off-flies
  32. komel
    komel April 8 2014 22: 18
    +4
    Ukrainian banks in the Crimea stopped their work. In the South East, banks can also suspend their work. It is better to keep money in a three liter jar.
  33. kelevra
    kelevra April 8 2014 22: 19
    +6
    The police did not need to play the game: we are for you, but no, now we are for those, though, we are again for you! We have chosen the side of the people and stand to the end, and now you will find yourself under pressure!
  34. serzh 58
    serzh 58 April 8 2014 22: 22
    +3
    Between Kharkov and Donetsk fly 3 MI - 8. Darkly cloudy, no identification marks are visible.
  35. DMB-78
    DMB-78 April 8 2014 22: 26
    +9
    why is Odessa silent? and how many conversations ... it is necessary to spray the forces of the junta. if the people rise in all and small cities, they simply don’t have enough power for all
    1. Azat Babai
      Azat Babai April 8 2014 22: 49
      +3
      Coordination where? And do not hope for this Yanuk. In which case, again ... talk. And then the blah blah blah blah box. negative
    2. PSih2097
      PSih2097 April 8 2014 23: 10
      +1
      Quote: DMB-78
      why is Odessa silent?

      Odessa and Nikolaev were supposed to start on April 10, now I think if it does, then by May 9 ... Especially if the Junta fights at veterans or people with a St. George ribbon, customs with border guards (which on the other side, that’s on this side) are brutalized Russian will not stop.
  36. Rusin Dima
    Rusin Dima April 8 2014 22: 32
    0
    What do vampires do they really had little blood on the Maidan?
  37. Alexey71
    Alexey71 April 8 2014 22: 34
    0
    Quote: ambiorix
    Lugansk has risen !!!


    What will happen if the shooting starts, Russia will send troops?
    1. PSih2097
      PSih2097 April 8 2014 23: 03
      0
      Quote: Alexey71
      Quote: ambiorix
      Lugansk has risen !!!


      What will happen if the shooting starts, Russia will send troops?

      Volunteers think will go ...
      But then you need to change the petition, not Putin help, but Russia help.
      But here several factors appear, weapons, ammunition, equipment and provisions, and if there are no problems with the first, then with the rest ...
  38. Sagittarius
    Sagittarius April 8 2014 22: 34
    +8
    I have vague doubts. It seems that these unprepared speeches, without a well-defined program, without adequate and competent leaders, with dubious appeals to Russia and President Putin for military support, are nothing more than a well-planned provocation. The purpose of the provocation, in my opinion, is: "let off steam" of the protest movement until critical pressure is reached, beheading and demoralizing the most active part of the population of the rebellious regions, provoking Russia into rash and unprepared actions in order to further exploit the image of the "evil empire" before the international community. Note that the level of negative reaction in the world towards Russia in connection with the "Crimean" history is dwindling. The announced sanctions are stalled. Would Tymoshenko, together with the ministers-juntists, dare to visit the eastern and southeastern regions on a pacifying mission, if there were real mass protests there.
    1. smile
      smile April 8 2014 23: 18
      +1
      Sagittarius
      Unfortunately, doubts are well founded. I really hope that you are wrong. I suppose you yourself hope so. :)))
    2. Dmitry Donskoy
      Dmitry Donskoy April 9 2014 05: 27
      0
      And who is this international community to be afraid of? This is mainly the United States and a subservient and ingratiating Western geyropa. Well, a hundred and a half other countries cowardly looking around for amers and those who lick their ass with servility. And to hell with us such an international community? Americans themselves despised this community and wanted to chew on it. Well, what are we, redheads? And we peppy this community with amers.
    3. Demon0n
      Demon0n April 9 2014 07: 50
      0
      Quote: Sagittarius
      I have vague doubts. It seems that these unprepared speeches, without a well-defined program, without adequate and competent leaders, with dubious appeals to Russia and President Putin for military support, are nothing more than a well-planned provocation. The purpose of the provocation, in my opinion, is: "let off steam" of the protest movement until critical pressure is reached, beheading and demoralizing the most active part of the population of the rebellious regions, provoking Russia into rash and unprepared actions in order to further exploit the image of the "evil empire" before the international community. Note that the level of negative reaction in the world towards Russia in connection with the "Crimean" history is dwindling. The announced sanctions are stalled. Would Tymoshenko, together with the ministers-juntists, dare to visit the eastern and southeastern regions on a pacifying mission, if there were real mass protests there.


      That's exactly what it looks like. It also looks like a deliberate sewer of discontent and an attempt to discredit Putin and Russia if he / we do not intervene (msya) ... Depending on Putin's reaction.
      Who could have prepared such a scenario is also clear. The author is not particularly hiding, leaving everywhere his signatures / signs - "the artist m ... him" ("find 10 differences in the senseless actions of the organizers").
      This does not mean that we will not be able to use the situation, as in the Crimea (there we were also provoked). However, this is not an optimal scenario and may complicate geopolitical strategies or put an end to goals. However - we will look at the result.
      In short, this is not our move (apparently, unless all this is a screen), but let's look at the answer.
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  39. Monk
    Monk April 8 2014 22: 35
    +1
    A little off topic, but very interesting.
    Conversation in the Senate of John Kerry with one of the US senators

    Senator: what are you going to do so that Putin changes his policy and does not seize new lands in Ukraine;
    Kerry: we have opportunities.
    Senator: but they laughed at our sanctions.
    Kerry: they didn’t laugh at the latter.


    Real conversation, showed in the news-24
    1. Anaris
      Anaris April 8 2014 23: 20
      0
      Which last?
    2. The comment was deleted.
    3. siberalt
      siberalt April 9 2014 00: 53
      0
      Kerry said that to shoot - you need a good aim. They did not come up with new sanctions. There isn’t enough tyam. laughing
  40. Belarus
    Belarus April 8 2014 22: 37
    +2
    Let Avakov better go out to the protesters and tell everything himself. So no, he’s afraid that Muzychko will be a neighbor.But a noble couple would have formed.
    But as everyone is told, their own time. Sometimes I agree with this and sometimes categorically against it, as in this case with the whole shobla.
  41. Alexey71
    Alexey71 April 8 2014 22: 40
    0
    Quote: Monk
    Kerry: they didn’t laugh at the latter.

    Which ones?
    1. Monk
      Monk April 8 2014 22: 54
      0
      Ask Kerry, these are his words, not mine.
  42. Saburo
    Saburo April 8 2014 22: 43
    +3
    I've got in touch with my friends from Kharkov. What they told me stunned me a little. In short: "Of course, we are not for the Maidan, but we will not go anywhere to hold a meeting. There are two or three hundred activists, and against them the police, the National Guard and hordes of right-wing people. They will simply kill us there."
    Moreover, the guys are quite serious, airsoft players, search engines, many who served urgent in the Ukrainian army.
    1. arnulla
      arnulla April 8 2014 22: 56
      +5
      Well, let them sit at home. Only then they would not regret that they were sitting out ... However, this is their choice.
      1. Dmitry Donskoy
        Dmitry Donskoy April 9 2014 05: 33
        0
        They are waiting. They think that they will not be touched. No matter how it happened with one girl (they wrote in the comments here) in the Lviv restaurant. Neo-Nazis were beaten to death only because they spoke Russian.
    2. Landwarrior
      Landwarrior April 8 2014 23: 33
      +1
      Well, what else should this happen for them to start moving? am
      However, if they like the current situation, well, God be their judge.
      The fair price for social passivity, unwillingness to think and the consumer position of “my hut from the edge”.
      hi
    3. DNR
      DNR April 9 2014 00: 17
      0
      And my student friend (Russian, by the way) says that all the speeches are Putin's provocation, and everyone is happy about the new government. You can’t understand anything. Mother says that you can’t come yet, but everything is calm. I do not get it.
    4. max702
      max702 April 9 2014 00: 57
      +1
      When they come home and before his eyes they finish the children and parents, his wife is being torn to death, and he will be slaughtered like a ram .. at the last second it will reach him but it will be too late ..
  43. pvv113
    pvv113 April 8 2014 22: 53
    +6
    The city is undergoing a police operation.
    Punitive operation of the Banderlog junta against civilians
  44. Shadowcat
    Shadowcat April 8 2014 23: 05
    0
    Sorry, but what is not clear here? Democratic dispersal of the crowd (see France / America, etc.)
  45. Cossacks
    Cossacks April 8 2014 23: 09
    +1
    The one with the administrative resource always wins. Roughly speaking, those who obey the cops.
  46. ded10041948
    ded10041948 April 8 2014 23: 16
    0
    Avakov plays very well in favor of banderlog! Hopes that he will be credited? Even as it counts!
  47. Giant thought
    Giant thought April 8 2014 23: 27
    0
    Ukrainian production of "Three Fat Men".
  48. Nasrat
    Nasrat April 8 2014 23: 29
    +3
    And yet I was right - a good cop is the m-th cop. Police with the people - this is in Kiev, where people with AK walk the streets. Well, they won’t walk in the streets of Donbass all their lives, and Avsrakov will dump in Kiev. And not all streets with lanterns. Trees shoot too. DEATH TO THE Fascists !!! PA_D_Y DONE!
    1. Dmitry Donskoy
      Dmitry Donskoy April 9 2014 05: 36
      +1
      A good Nazi is a dead Nazi, a good Amer is a dead Amer.
  49. komod77
    komod77 April 8 2014 23: 33
    +10
    Repost Vladimir Verkhov

    "I envy the Russians, I envy them", I am a Nazi muzzle, am "and" yam "
    I envy their Olympics and their army, I have many friends, there are
    relatives in Russia. And I see how they change and grow. They believe
    to your President. They believe in their army. They are proud of their great
    history, their achievements and victories.
    And this was our common story ... and victories and achievements. Just yesterday. They are
    reconciled with themselves. They didn’t give a damn about the West we worship. And they
    go further and develop so that they don’t tell us on our televisions and
    on our forums. And I understand that this is what we are losing, not them. we
    become weaker, and they are stronger.
    And no matter how loudly we shout "Glory to Ukraine!" it cannot be stopped.
    More recently, we mocked when they had Chechnya.
    And now the Chechens are no less Russian than the Russians themselves. They are ready
    fight for your reborn and Great Country. Part of which they
    are. And already Chechen battalions scare us. How did this happen ???
    They killed each other yesterday. And the reason is simple, the Chechens were able
    remember that they are Russian, and that they are part of the Great Country and the Great
    The people.
    We gloat when they have terrorist attacks and disasters.
    And they overcome them time after time and become stronger! Although the whole world is against them!
    They fall and rise again. They stand and smile. They only spit blood through their teeth.
    And we scream that they are slaves. That soon they will fall apart, oil will fall,
    NATO will attack, and next punishment will fall on them. But they are us!
    We spit in our reflection. Themselves in.
    We need to remember that we are one. And when we start
    to understand and realize this. That feeling will come, when something former in ours
    ancestors. Feeling of inner strength, hope, faith and pride in the fact that we
    also Russian.
    And it doesn’t matter who our ancestors are, Ukrainians, Tatars, Jews, Buryats or Uzbeks.
    It doesn’t matter who we are by faith, Catholics, Orthodox, Muslims or Jews.
    It is not important. The main thing is that we are Russians! And we are part of the great people
    and a great country. "

    "Aggressors" in Crimea were greeted with flowers by 90% of the population..NOT ONE VICTIM ... but how many of ours in the back on the Maidan put ..

    WELL, why are they lying to us - "drunken rashka" - and they are the 1st place at the Olympics ...
    drunkards .. An endangered crustacean - and they have full yards of children and fertility
    grows every year .. "Funny Army" - in 4 days Saakashvilevskaya
    Gouged NATO ... And we ..?
  50. mihasik
    mihasik April 8 2014 23: 44
    -1
    An interview with V. Zavgorodny (Kharkiv Civil Defense, if I am not mistaken) has just been broadcast on Rossiya 24. So he bluntly stated that not those who organized the seizure of the administration were arrested (like others had to be taken), but those who did not have time to dump in the morning due to the fact that the transport does not go early in the morning! Those. NOBODY WAS GOING TO STAND FOR THEIR RIGHTS FURTHER! What is there to talk about further !? They drain their own! What the hell are protest movements in Kharkov! ??