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Tymoshenko predicted the emergence of "a dozen new Krymov" in Ukraine

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It will happen, she is sure, if Europe does not stand up and does not accept Ukraine into NATO as a matter of urgency.


The prison does not pass for anybody. So Yulia Tymoshenko came out of her not the one that was included. It is not known whether she can now “work on a hairdryer,” but there are other evidences of the metamorphosis that occurred with her.

Someone from the Ukrainian political scientists noted that Tymoshenko should be angry at the whole wide world. So it turned out. But most of all she is angry at Russia - for the Crimea and in general. And her voice sounds like a sharp dissonance in the efforts of Western countries to reach an agreement with Russia and settle matters in the “independent” world.

Tymoshenko demands from the West weapons. She calls on him to step up military cooperation with Kiev in order to prevent Russia's “further aggression”. With such a call, she turned to the Maidan sponsors through the British business newspaper The Financial Times, which she gave an interview. In fact, she outlined in her interview the main points of her election program. Similar interviews were given by her main opponents in the presidential race - Petro Poroshenko and Mikhail Dobkin. Against their background one can see: Tymoshenko has never been a “dove of peace”, but now has become a real “hawk”.

So far, the West has been supplying the Armed Forces of Ukraine with only sleeping bags and food rations, but Tymoshenko wants equipment and military-technical support. This is to prevent "further Russian aggression," she says.

Tymoshenko is confident that helping Ukraine is a global task. “The whole world should significantly strengthen the Ukrainian army, not for the sake of war, but as a way to ensure stability and deterrence potential,” she says.

As for Russia, then it is relentless. The world community should introduce “short-term, tough sanctions” against the Russian Federation, far surpassing those that had already been adopted earlier.

In a sensational telephone conversation with Deputy Shufrich, whose recording has recently appeared on the Web, Tymoshenko promises to raise the whole world against Russia. Apparently, this has already begun: hurricane "Julia" hit the road.

“Of course, if the West imposes tough sanctions against Russia, it will entail some costs for the US and the EU. But I urge the West to endure these losses, because if they are not there, we will get even worse problems that will require even more radical and serious measures, ”she fears Western countries.

And what are these problems, Yulia Vladimirovna? You will be put in prison again, but only now for the 450 millions of dollars that were once stolen from the Russian Ministry of Defense, which you tried to transfer to the Ukrainian budget with an elegant hand movement? Yes, in order to prevent this, the West should tense up and suffer.

Like members of the Ukrainian junta, Tymoshenko opposes federalization, coupled with the non-aligned status of Ukraine, which Russia demands. This is “a direct path to the destruction of independence and sovereignty of both Ukraine and other post-Soviet countries,” she said. According to Tymoshenko, federalization threatens with the emergence in Ukraine of "a dozen new Krymov" and will serve as a pretext for the annexation by Russia of the south and east of the country.

And unitary Ukraine, we argue, will lead to civil war. What's better?

Tymoshenko is not the first Ukrainian politician to ask for political and military help from the West. Earlier, on March 11, the same thing was done by the Verkhovna Rada, which appealed to the United States and Great Britain to use economic and military means to ensure the security and territorial integrity of Ukraine.

And help came. Washington sent Kiev 25 000 boxes with American dry rations (around 330 000 kits), although previously promised massive support. The Internet has already appeared the announcement of the sale of these rations in private, and journalists have calculated that the 130-thousand Ukrainian army will last for two and a half days, if you eat once a day.

In the Ukrainian leadership there is no agreement about joining NATO. Tymoshenko called for the integration of Ukraine into the European security and defense systems, although earlier “Prime Minister” Yatsenyuk said that for the sake of the country's unity, this bloc is not worth striving for. And and. about. Ukrainian Foreign Minister Andrei Deshchitsa once again declared that the new Ukrainian government does not intend to lead Ukraine into NATO, despite the fact that the country maintains an intensive dialogue with the Alliance and tries on various forms of cooperation.

Meanwhile, the press is discussing that Tymoshenko, who is going to the presidential election, has hidden information in the declaration that she was obliged to indicate. Like other candidates, the ex-premier announced her 2013 income statement for the year. The document is posted on the website of the CEC of Ukraine. It turned out that in 2013, she earned 180 000 hryvnias (22 500 dollars). But it would be a mistake to assume that this is the salary for sewing mittens, which, by the way, Mikhail Khodorkovsky did in prison. Because of health problems, Tymoshenko did not work. But then she led the party "IN" Batkivshchyna ", for which she received a monthly salary in the amount of 15 000 hryvnia.

But if Yulia Vladimirovna would still sew mittens, put an autograph on them, and the prison administration would sell them through an auction, the earnings could be much more. What kind of businessman would refuse to have in her collection mittens made by Tymoshenko?

Of the property, Tymoshenko has an apartment with a total area of ​​59,4 square meters. No other real estate, as well as vehicles, businesses and bank accounts, is listed on the declaration.

She did not tell Ms. Tymoshenko about what her husband and daughter Oleksandra own, although she had to indicate their income. Earlier, the media wrote that her husband has a business for growing quail eggs, and his daughter owns a restaurant in Kiev.

The Ukrainian press also reports that recently, Tymoshenko showed reporters a luxurious house in the Kiev suburb of Koncha-Zaspa, which she rents for 10 years (goes, rented, even when she was in prison?). The declaration of him is not mentioned.
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  1. skifd
    skifd April 2 2014 11: 48
    +72
    City of Stakhanov:

    1. zanoza
      zanoza April 2 2014 12: 07
      +58
      Interestingly, this is what the current rulers of Ukraine and applicants for the post of President of Ukraine on the internal capabilities of Ukraine, its people do not count.They demand from the West to solve their problems, give money, weapons and so on.Ignoring the fact that Ukraine as a state, few people are interested in the West. She, Ukraine, is just an excuse to put pressure on Russia.
      That is, and then the Ukrainian government wants to "sit on the throne" with folded hands and do nothing with their own hands: let the uncle come and decide and do everything. Apparently they live in the fairy tale "About the Fisherman and the Golden Fish" or "By the Pike's Command."
      Бthe most that they are going to do inside the country is again to take something from someone and redistribute it again. fool
      1. demon184
        demon184 April 2 2014 13: 02
        +16
        The same as the Balts used to do, they were waiting for preferences from all sides, they are so necessary, they are holding back an aggressive Russia that wants to wipe the West from the face of the earth and the West owes them for it. Russia owes them for the fact that they are our brothers and have fed us for 70 years and for the fact that they allow gas transit through the pipe that the Soviet Union built for denyuzhku. And if we don’t give them all kinds of gifts and preferences, they will leave for Europe forever and we will cry and regret that we have lost so much in their face.
        1. Androsh
          Androsh April 2 2014 15: 14
          +28
          It seems that the Americans decided to make the whole Outskirts barren ..

          From the anti-Maidan site:

          They write to us:

          ATTENTION OF PARENTS !!! To everyone who is at the computer now! Ukraine!
          After the victory of the Maidan!
          Attention. Today my daughter from school number 9 brought a piece of paper with the following text (or maybe without demand!):
          Dear Parents! Your child will be vaccinated with Gardasil (or Cervarix) (for supposedly papilloma and cervical cancer). Your consent, yes or no. My child is 9 years old. Under no circumstances should women and girls dare to get this vaccine. It leads to infertility and is not yet fully tested!
          America delivered 42 million doses to our country. Draw conclusions. Tell everyone about this threat. Urgently !!! Everyone !!!!
          1. dmitriygorshkov
            dmitriygorshkov April 2 2014 15: 37
            +16
            Quote: Androsh
            Urgently !!! Everyone !!!!

            Oh, how! A very multi-pass project "Ukraine", and also a testing ground for dubious drugs!
            Wake up Ukraine! Good rave Russian aggression!
            1. tianna
              tianna April 2 2014 20: 36
              +9
              Oh, it’s so cool to rave about aggression! And also it is convenient and comfortable to do this, lying on the couch in front of the telly! Why not shave, you become so sorry for yourself and you still don’t need to do anything, suddenly it will resolve itself ...
            2. GRANATE-19
              GRANATE-19 April 2 2014 23: 19
              +2
              Quote: dmitriygorshkov
              Quote: Androsh
              Urgently !!! Everyone !!!!

              Oh, how! A very multi-pass project "Ukraine", and also a testing ground for dubious drugs!
              Wake up Ukraine! Good rave Russian aggression!

              While Ukraine is facing RUSSIA and says that we are oppressing it, not letting us live in peace, robbing, in general, intrigues! She herself does not notice that she stands with her "back" to the west and he uses and uses her darling, and will continue to tilt and use even more actively until it breaks! Respectfully, I express my humble opinion.
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            4. Androsh
              Androsh April 2 2014 23: 50
              +2
              About Gardasil:
          2. zzz
            zzz April 2 2014 15: 44
            +4
            Quote: Androsh
            America delivered 42 million doses to our country. Draw conclusions. Tell everyone about this threat. Urgently !!! Everyone !!!!

            It seems that now Ukrainian children can become experimental, they will be tested on drugs and drugs. Maybe they need Ukraine for these purposes? But someone from the government will receive huge money for this!
            1. olegkrava
              olegkrava April 2 2014 17: 00
              +16
              Why didn’t mother of Yulia get vaccinated at 9?
          3. tilovaykrisa
            tilovaykrisa April 2 2014 16: 52
            +7
            This is a reward for Maidan from Western sponsors, by the way, don’t be so opposed, let the western regions receive a similar vaccination, our descendants will live quieter.
          4. Wellych
            Wellych April 2 2014 19: 14
            +4
            Attention. Today my daughter from school number 9 brought a piece of paper with such text

            Few people know, but Russia is also a testing ground for the same vaccination (hello to Dimon): http://www.babyblog.ru/community/post/conception/1857699.
            The "horrors" of the Maidan should be filtered.
          5. ATATA
            ATATA April 2 2014 20: 53
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            Quote: Androsh
            America delivered 42 million doses to our country. Draw conclusions. Tell everyone about this threat. Urgently !!! Everyone !!!!

            Urgently! Proof to the studio!
          6. cdrt
            cdrt April 3 2014 00: 44
            -1
            Quote: Androsh
            It seems that the Americans decided to make the whole Outskirts barren ..

            From the anti-Maidan site:

            They write to us:

            ATTENTION OF PARENTS !!! To everyone who is at the computer now! Ukraine!
            After the victory of the Maidan!
            Attention. Today my daughter from school number 9 brought a piece of paper with the following text (or maybe without demand!):
            Dear Parents! Your child will be vaccinated with Gardasil (or Cervarix) (for supposedly papilloma and cervical cancer). Your consent, yes or no. My child is 9 years old. Under no circumstances should women and girls dare to get this vaccine. It leads to infertility and is not yet fully tested!
            America delivered 42 million doses to our country. Draw conclusions. Tell everyone about this threat. Urgently !!! Everyone !!!!


            Well, about Cervarix and infertility - journalistic ravings and traditional fears of vaccination.
            More precisely, not so, if you count the deaths from the flu vaccine (who died, respectively, after vaccination), you will get directly a weapon of mass destruction.
            In many ways, they forget that vaccination is a medical procedure that requires a preliminary examination and subsequent monitoring.
            But ... medicine is a queuing system, and therefore clog.

            Although ... the instructions for the vaccine are clearly not recommended for children under 10 years of age because the effect on the children's body under 10 years of age has not been investigated.
            And so ... the vaccine is useful, it helps to significantly reduce the likelihood of cervical cancer.
            1. understudy
              understudy April 3 2014 01: 17
              +4
              Quote: cdrt
              And so ... the vaccine is useful

              And therefore banned in France?
            2. Androsh
              Androsh April 3 2014 02: 59
              +1

              Test these vaccines on yourself and your children, fascists !!!
          7. Revolver
            Revolver April 3 2014 07: 05
            -1
            Quote: Androsh
            Dear Parents! Your child will be vaccinated with Gardasil (or Cervarix) ... Tell everyone about this threat. Urgently !!! Everyone !!!!
            Well, you poked a finger in ... one place. In America, this vaccine has long been approved for use by girls. It gives immunity from the herpes virus, which, in particular, causes papillomas, and under certain conditions provokes cervical cancer, as well as many other problems. Now there is a debate whether to give these injections to boys, since herpes and men have an unpleasant thing, although not fatal, uterine cancer does not threaten. And the question is not the side effects, but whether the positive effect justifies the cost of vaccination. Insurance companies, as you understand, do not want to pay for the vaccine, which is possible in the future, and that will not significantly reduce the costs of another company (rarely, anyone has kept the same insurance for many years for reasons that take too long to list).
            The only thing is strange - why at 9? My daughter was made at 13. She was made by a doctor whom I believe, by the way, also a native of the Union. She believes that the later the better, so she pulled before the start of regular menstruation.
            However, do not want to - do not. In Pakistan, there was a similar rumor about polio vaccinations that they cause infertility in girls and impotence in boys, the people are simple there, they stoned a couple of doctors with stones, they stopped doing vaccines. Well, the result is an outbreak of poliomyelitis, although a couple of years ago the conversation was about the complete eradication of polio, how smallpox was eradicated.
            1. Androsh
              Androsh April 3 2014 15: 42
              -1
              Well, the result is an outbreak of poliomyelitis, although a couple of years ago the conversation was about the complete eradication of polio, how smallpox was eradicated.

              So the outbreak was probably for those who were vaccinated .. take for example such a well-known epidemic of Spanish flu at the beginning of the 20th century, when it was precisely those who were vaccinated who were infected and hurt!
              Before getting vaccinated, you need to read more than one article on vaccination topics, because you are ruining the health of your children, and now you are reassuring yourself that everything is in order.
              Don't you know that the super rich of America are developing vaccinations to reduce the world's population ?! Don't you know that they constantly hold meetings on this subject and there are societies for population reduction ?! Be smarter and don't let yourself be fooled by Dan’s knee!
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        3. siberalt
          siberalt April 2 2014 15: 16
          0
          Sutsky sensed who is the boss in the house! So howled. laughing




          http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2014/703/xzmx443.jpg
      2. TEODOR
        TEODOR April 2 2014 13: 10
        +13
        There’s nothing wrong with that. I don’t need to solder my pockets. I can make a normal profit here))
        1. Roman 57 rus
          Roman 57 rus April 2 2014 13: 33
          +2
          In-in, I completely agree with you!
      3. thrower
        thrower April 2 2014 14: 20
        0
        The behavior of Petryura or Denikin in the 1918 year, one to one.
      4. Name
        Name April 2 2014 14: 37
        +5
        Quote: zanoza
        current rulers of Ukraine and applicants for the post of President of Ukraine on the internal capabilities of Ukraine, its people do not count.

        And why, for all they said, they just EXECUTE:
        1. Cherdak
          Cherdak April 2 2014 14: 53
          +14
          Quote: name
          they are only EXECUTING

          Julia has a serious competitor
          1. _Lexa_
            _Lexa_ April 2 2014 15: 36
            +1
            As an option ))
          2. alexng
            alexng April 2 2014 21: 17
            +1
            And the "pale one with a scythe" returned to take Ukraine with her. One has already taken - Sashko Muzychko. And further down the list, until complete collapse.
      5. VAF
        VAF April 2 2014 14: 57
        +7
        Quote: zanoza
        What is interesting is that the current rulers of Ukraine and applicants for the post of President of Ukraine on the internal capabilities of Ukraine, its people do not count.


        I absolutely agree! +! drinks

        And by the way, yesterday they "read" at work .. highly recommend, well .. VERY INTERESTING good

        Yulia Tymoshenko is ready to turn Ukraine into a nuclear repository



        Contrary to the version imposed on everyone, the reason for eliminating Muzychko by Avakov's people is big politics and money. A lot of money!

        Yatsenyuk has repeatedly stated that Ukraine will have to accept any requirements of creditors to receive financial assistance from abroad. Negotiations "Fatherland" on financial assistance were conducted at the end of the 2013 year. This is, by the way, under the current President Yanukovych. Apparently even then the hypocritical West was betting on Tymoshenko.

        Part of the demands made on the leaders of the "Fatherland" was shrouded in secrecy, but now some details of those agreements have become known. The West, in December 2013, pushed a decision by which, in the event Tymoshenko came to power, Ukraine assumed obligations for the disposal of nuclear waste from EU countries and the USA. Moreover, according to the documents, the exclusion zone of the Chernobyl nuclear power plant was determined by Kiev as the main landfill.
        And this choice was not accidental.

        Firstly, Yushchenko suggested that this place be used for the disposal of spent nuclear fuel. True, no money was found for this, and in fact the term "disposal" is now equivalent to the "disposal" of waste.

        Secondly, and this is the most important thing, there already is already full of radiation. Therefore, it is practically impossible to figure out how much will eventually be buried in the exclusion zone of nuclear waste without proper monitoring by environmental organizations.
        “Fatherland” decided to take advantage of this, and at the same time to earn extra money “for the cause of the revolution”. Why officially pay all the so-called “disposal”? Part of the money can be spent on "gray" schemes. Moreover, no one will verify the actual number of nuclear burials.

        The European-American "partners" were also pleased that at least part of the money for "democratization" of Ukraine for the sake of Western environmentalists was secured by nuclear obligations.

        To be continued wink
        1. VAF
          VAF April 2 2014 14: 59
          +5
          Quote: vaf
          To be continued


          The first money under the “gray” scheme was spent in early December through the notorious United States Agency for International Development USAID, based at the US embassy in Kiev. Cash began to flow to “interested consumers.”
          The circle of those admitted to such a delicate matter, of course, was strictly limited: Yatsenyuk and Turchinov, under the patronage of their leader Tymoshenko. Over time, Avakov was added.

          And the fact of financing the Maidan from the American embassy in the opposition did not raise any questions.
          True, not everything went as smoothly as intended.
          The SBU almost ruined everything with its search in the office of the "Fatherland" on December 9, 2013. But the seizure by the operatives of almost $ 17 million did not affect anything. It was a trifle.

          Nevertheless, for the "Fatherland" everything went well. Successful Maidan. Yanukovych expelled. Tymoshenko is free. The financial contribution of colleagues from the opposition is appreciated. Yatsenyuk - acting premiere. Turchinov - acting the president. Avakov - acting Minister of the Interior.
          The time has come for a report to the West on preparedness for the disposal of ill-fated nuclear waste. Tymoshenko, on the eve of the May elections, it was decided not to sign official documents with Yatsenyuk-Turchinov’s hands, but to carry out a “gray” burial. So to speak, as a sign of respect and hope for further cooperation.
          Attraction of official Ukrainian structures was excluded.

          Here Tymoshenko made a strategic mistake. She contacted Yarosh. To support the unhindered passage of the train with the “secret” cargo from Poland to Chernobyl, of course, for a considerable amount of money and under the guarantee of confidentiality, the Right Sector was involved.
          Yarosh entrusted the case to Muzychko and his people, who oversaw the west of the country. And that was already his mistake.
          Muzychko was not as stupid as he seemed. He understood what was at stake, what people and money were involved in this and became fearless. To the surprise of even his environment from the "Right Sector". The norm became adventures with a gun. Showy bravado on camera. Promises to hang Avakov as a dog. Sasha Bilogo suffered. Having compromising on Kiev politicians caused him the illusion of permissiveness.
          He tried to stop Yarosh.
          1. VAF
            VAF April 2 2014 15: 01
            +7
            Quote: vaf
            He tried to stop Yarosh.


            Muzychko realized that he had gone too far. Trying to insure himself, he even issued a video message in which he stated that they were going to either destroy him or capture and extradite him to Russia. Strengthened security. And he shined some close people into the cause of his concern (for which he thanks especially).
            But Tymoshenko already had no choice. Too much was at stake.
            Avakov immediately received a command and carried out a special operation to detain him, as a result of which Sashko Bily, handcuffed, “accidentally shot himself” with two shots in the heart.

            Yarosh realized that this is a war. For Tymoshenko, he became a real threat. And he began to act.
            Yulia Vladimirovna got into a hard time and announced her intention to run for president of Ukraine.
            A train with nuclear waste is already on the Polish-Ukrainian border. It’s worth at least until the election.
            And who will be his next victim?
            Source

            Here is a version of the murder of Sashko Bilogo - which reflects all the events that happened to him much better. Including his impunity and lack of jurisdiction.
            Now we see that Ukrainian "Maidan" politicians such as Tymoshenko, Klitschko, Yatsenyuk and Tyagnibok are ready to turn Ukraine into a nuclear desert for the sake of the authorities.

            And the Right Sector will reconcile and grab the murder of Bilogo. For whoever gopnik with bats and red-black flags finances, he indulges them from the bottom, which the USA has already popularly explained. wassat
            1. dmitriygorshkov
              dmitriygorshkov April 2 2014 15: 48
              +5
              Quote: vaf
              Therefore, to figure out how much will be eventually buried in the exclusion zone

              Hello STALKER-2! I certainly asked for a continuation of the game .....
              But not in real life ....... request
              1. Basarev
                Basarev April 2 2014 18: 46
                +2
                It seems that it's time to engage in large-scale export of politeness in the west of Ukraine ...
              2. VAF
                VAF April 2 2014 19: 38
                +2
                Quote: dmitriygorshkov
                Of course I asked for a continuation of the game .....


                Dmitry, welcome! drinks
                if on "garlic": wink, then there was a great desire to show another article ... there in general ... I think BOMBWA.
                Because everything with surnames, passwords and turnouts about snipers - where, when and who and how much they paid and where they cooked, plus more specific calculations on financial schemes - the white one with a scythe stupidly wanted to grab the attendants and "get away" with us .. Europe has a contract for fuel processing, and this is a big dough. and then Julia with Chernobyl .. put it in the trash heap and throw it along with the locomotive (after all, how will the locomotive go back then?).
                And Sasha just went wrong. I’m a stupid person, but not a finger made ... he was offered 50.000 greens for guarding and escorting a steam locomotive with .... well, he agreed, and when he found out what kind of locomotive it was ... you understand that at least a couple of 0 should have been added to the amount.
                But here the greed of the fraer ruined .... it was necessary to drive the engine into the territory of Ukraine. and then bargain already ... then it would be Hochma ... and the same .. nothing, because. if this happens, with all the blockade and censorship, especially in the Western media, then the Frog and Mackerel will exist in their posts for a few hours. along with their parties wassat
                Well, there was a lot of INTERESTING written, for example, our Kinder-surprise spoke and said that according to his data, fuel for nuclear power plants in Ukraine remained for 3 weeks, and in order to form an application and a supply plan, it is necessary at least 3 months. but in this regard .. horse .. not volyalyatsya.the more Ukraine for the past fuel should already be about "lard of green". wassat
                Well, and so on, but a white with a scythe only knows how to play the "flute" lol the same must be invented - from the scheme of strictly accounting for spent fuel and its supplies, "slam" the whole composition and what is the hope that ours will not notice: belay
                The article was written by one of the veterans of the Alpha special unit (for large posts), but ... today it is no longer on the network.
                I can assume. that just these facts are not in time, because this is such a CARTON BLANCH for us that ... wink
                Therefore, only from memory!
                And once again I am convinced - do not put off until tomorrow what can be done today recourse could calmly in his "nubuck" wassat save " recourse
                1. GRANATE-19
                  GRANATE-19 April 3 2014 00: 08
                  +1
                  Oh Ukraine, you're crazy! What do these people, who are striving for power, think, I do not understand! They bury their country completely and irrevocably, making the territory where future generations will live as a radioactive garbage can - this is the limit of madness! Namely, their children will live where there is no phonite, on the islands or in some other paradise! And they will turn Ukraine into a continuous exclusion zone! Andrey Tarkovsky in 1979 filmed his film "STALKER" about the future of Ukraine - THAT'S WHAT IS WAITING FOR HER !!! Respectfully, I express my humble opinion.
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      6. tianna
        tianna April 2 2014 20: 31
        +1
        Here u sit with a broken trough
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      8. Stalker
        Stalker April 2 2014 21: 32
        +3
        Well, as for Tymoshenko, then ..... laughing
      9. Geisenberg
        Geisenberg April 2 2014 23: 15
        +2
        Quote: zanoza
        That is, and then the Ukrainian government wants to "sit on the throne" with folded hands and do nothing with their own hands


        And this is a typical Ukrainian position - "give it to" ... well, they will give them weapons, give them money ... who will fight? Pravoseki chtoli?

        So, that’s all about the campaign ... Banal trolling at the level of presidential candidates. Julia, by the way, if it gets through, Ukraine will wash itself with blood ... and without war.
        1. I am proud of Russia
          I am proud of Russia April 3 2014 13: 54
          0
          Julia, by the way, if it gets through, Ukraine will wash itself with blood ... and without war. [/ Quote]

          There is no doubt about it. And Russia has nothing to do with it, if the Nazis and fascists, that is, witches and ghouls came to power .... and the witch Yulia was released from the bottle like a genie .... sorry for the real Ukrainian glorious people, whose brains were clouded by the "occupation" of the Russian and European Union a mirage After all, this is a semblance of people who came to power this snake tangle about you Ukrainians does not think, but thinks, as it were, for the poor little one who has only a 59 m apartment, then fill it with American dollars, then dump it somewhere in Europe, and leave you a gift in the form of atomic burials .... Eh Ukrainians !!! We are one people. And thank God in the South-East you understand this.
    2. Rus2012
      Rus2012 April 2 2014 13: 21
      +8
      Quote: skifd
      City of Stakhanov:

      And meanwhile -
      Attention: Mobilization of the South-East of Ukraine, on April 6 the army of the people's militia will be raised.
      "Representatives of the United People's Guard of the South-East of Ukraine issued a new appeal to compatriots, in which they call on the people of the South-East of Ukraine to put up armed resistance to the illegitimate government of Ukraine. The video message appeared on the Web on Tuesday, April 1.
      At the very beginning of their speech, the fighters turned to the illegal government of Ukraine with a demand to release all the leaders of the national resistance detained in Lugansk, Donetsk, Kharkov, Nikolaev.
      In case of failure to fulfill their requirements, the fighters declare April 6 the day of the beginning of general mobilization.
      Below we publish the full text of the Appeal:
      "The Joint Southeast Headquarters appeals to the illegal government.
      You ignored our warning of a peaceful resolution to the conflict. On 28 of March people were crippled in the cities: Donetsk, Lugansk, Kharkov and Nikolaev. There is a total investigation of leaders from the people!
      We demand the cancellation of the Presidential election and the setting of a specific date for referenda on the Southeast! If our requirements are not met before April 5 2014 of the year - April 6, the People’s Army of the Southeast will be raised!
      Our dear fellow countrymen! Residents of the Southeast! The time has come when everyone's future depends only on decisive action! We announce: the full Popular mobilization of all who are ready to assert their rights to life and freedom! In case of failure to fulfill our requirements, we announce the collection of the People’s Militia on the central squares of their cities on April 6 from 10 to 12 hours! To have with you: an identity document, daily ration, any personal weapons and personal protective equipment. Nomination to the regional centers is carried out by an organized column.
      To all employees, mountains. and the regional police departments - you have the last opportunity to prove that you are with your people. We oblige you all to remain at the duty station! Be faithful to your oath given to your people! Ensure the rule of law and decent protection for its citizens.
      Police officers who have expressed a desire to join the People’s Army of the Southeast will be enlisted in separate units.
      Appeal to the mothers of all military personnel. We ask you to pick up your children from the locations of military units during the confrontation in order to avoid unnecessary bloodshed.
      As for the soldiers and officers of Ukraine. Remember that you took an oath to your people, not to a handful of impostors who seized power. Do not follow criminal orders directed against the people!
      We appeal to the legally elected President Yanukovych. We demand! Return to Ukraine and restore law and order!
      Our cause is just, the victory will be ours! "



      Source -
      http://antifashist.com/stat/23813-obedinennyj-shtab-jugovostoka-obratilsja-k-nez
      akonnomu-pravitelstvu-i-objavil-vseobschuju-mobilizaciju-na-6e-aprelja.html
      1. Corsair
        Corsair April 2 2014 13: 47
        +12
        Quote: Rus2012
        And meanwhile -
        Attention: Mobilization of the South-East of Ukraine, on April 6 the army of the people's militia will be raised.


        That’s the essence RUSSIAN, though not by birth, but by SPIRIT...
        1. Lord of the Sith
          Lord of the Sith April 2 2014 15: 01
          +2
          Nice verse!
        2. Andreitch
          Andreitch April 2 2014 17: 28
          +1
          Looks like A. Blok was a prophet!
          1. I am proud of Russia
            I am proud of Russia April 3 2014 14: 05
            0
            The correct verse. After all, everything comes from the depths of centuries ...
      2. ksandr45
        ksandr45 April 2 2014 14: 30
        +4
        Vidyushku apparently already rubbed)))
        1. Corsair
          Corsair April 3 2014 05: 31
          0
          Quote: ksandr45
          Vidyushku apparently already rubbed)))
          After all, there is an information war going on and the presence of such a video is EXTREMELY unprofitable for the Nazis in the "power" of Ukraine and their sponsors.

          And vice versavideo materials of a different orientation on You Tube they feel quite comfortable ...
          1. I am proud of Russia
            I am proud of Russia April 3 2014 14: 11
            0
            Here they are new Ukrainians of European tailoring ... they are very sorry .... because while mothers and folders are behind them and they live while they are at their expense the majority ... in Europe instead of the heavenly manna that they are waiting for they will be like auxiliary workers no more .... that’s how.
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    4. Giant thought
      Giant thought April 2 2014 14: 07
      +4
      I lived for almost a year Stakhanov in the 80's, worked in Bryanka in the Bushes. People live there good. For all the time, only once a tipsy old man called me him. So well done Stakhanovites, keep it up.
    5. Flooding
      Flooding April 2 2014 15: 00
      0
      Mother Ukraine is clichier than we are,
      One by one, take a walk in battle, gay!

      Chorus:
      Nationalism, one, two!
      Young eagles, lads, lads, falcons!
      Nationalism, one, two!
      Young eagles, lads, lads and boys!

      Don’t get it, Rodino, don’t be tight, dіvchino, -
      Cliche Ukraine, our Fatherland, gay!

      For our power, for honor and glory
      Rose’s crooked Moscow and Warsaw, gay!

      For our freedom, for beauty and people,
      Let's go into the fire, into the water for our people, gay!



      These are girls singing songs ...
      1. smile
        smile April 2 2014 15: 36
        +4
        Flooding
        Yes, the upbringing is impressive ... soon it will be like this: ... and then the kids will grow up and have a fun life in Ukraine ... for everyone ...
        1. Corsair
          Corsair April 2 2014 17: 43
          +3
          Quote: smile
          Yes, the upbringing is impressive ... soon it will be like this: ... and then the kids will grow up and have a fun life in Ukraine ... for everyone ...

          Greetings, Toothy! I read your comment in another thread regarding the FUTURE of Ukraine in such a course of events ...
          And I can’t say that I agree with you ... I COMPLETELY I share your look!

          Another 10-15 years of such banderlogization and, and CRANTS ...
          We will have another Poland.
          1. ATATA
            ATATA April 2 2014 18: 08
            +4
            Quote: Corsair
            Another 10-15 years of such banderlogization and, and CRANTS ...
            We will have another Poland.

            Yes!!!!!
            If Poland, the USA and the EU will work on the brains of people there, and the Russian Federation will look from the side, then YES !!!!
            There will be 2nd Poland, and Russia finally sat down will take up the brains in Ukraine, then there will be 2nd Belarus.
            1. tianna
              tianna April 2 2014 20: 46
              +8
              Give in, Belarus, its President for half a year to Ukraine)
          2. smile
            smile April 2 2014 18: 13
            +2
            Corsair
            Hi Piratische!
            Yes, there is very little time to change something. Let us miss it - a new generation will grow up in Ukraine, swaddled by Euro-fascist propaganda from the cradle, who will be ready to fulfill anyone’s orders, to stand in front of anyone with cancer, just to spoil us. Of course, they themselves will turn Ukraine into a garbage dump, but even this will not make us feel better .... and people are sorry.
            1. Corsair
              Corsair April 2 2014 18: 26
              +3
              Quote: smile
              Of course, they themselves will turn Ukraine into a garbage dump, but even this will not make us feel better .... and people are sorry.

              Moreover, for me, over 30 years living in the Donbass among these people, different, but not ENEMIES (!), it is EXTREMELY difficult to realize that they can be torn from the Russian World, made enemies, mercenaries of the West ...
            2. I am proud of Russia
              I am proud of Russia April 3 2014 14: 12
              0
              I totally agree
      2. dmitriygorshkov
        dmitriygorshkov April 2 2014 16: 02
        +1
        Quote: Flood
        These are girls singing songs ...

        I carefully read and listened. In general, it makes no sense, just get and two times !!!
        It’s much clearer than Ukraine, what Batkivshchyna wants to understand! Why the hell are Moscow and Warsaw bloody! It’s good to sing, with angelic voices, satanic marches!
        But interestingly, the adult representatives of the chapel have an answer to the question of what is the bloodiness of Moscow or not? Suddenly they will ask shmokodyavki ?!
        1. avdkrd
          avdkrd April 2 2014 17: 40
          0
          Quote: dmitriygorshkov
          the question is what is the bloodiness of Moscow

          there the keyword is not bloody Moscow and Warsaw, but a BREAK.
        2. Corsair
          Corsair April 2 2014 18: 17
          +1
          Quote: dmitriygorshkov
          I carefully read and listened. In general, it makes no sense, just get and two times !!!
          And here, do not look for meaning ... Two tributaries, two hooks ... and brains are cleared.
        3. Flooding
          Flooding April 2 2014 20: 12
          +3
          Quote: dmitriygorshkov
          I carefully read and listened. In general, it makes no sense, just get and two times !!!

          The text is not fully matched.
          Rechecked. The first paragraph is laid out incorrectly.
          "Chuєsh - surmi gratin, yunakiv grate,
          At the row you pick up, "Will you beat!" - zvischayut. Gay!"

          But the meaning of this changes little.
          It turns out this is the march of the OUN.
          That's why babies sing.

          What can I say. By and large, the Nazis know how to act. And they always knew how. You cannot refuse this. They know that you need to start with young and young heads.
          And while a generation of nationalists was nurtured in the Baltic states, Ukraine, Moldova, Russia not only turned a blind eye to this ... It would seem to be understandable - the times were not the most favorable. But after all, their own, Russian, generation is largely lost. That’s the most annoying thing.
      3. TekhnarMAF
        TekhnarMAF April 2 2014 16: 24
        +1
        I watched the videos, read the comments. An explosion of positive emotions on the first video, an explosion of negative emotions on the last video. The comments are good for their "nezalezhnyh" Gentlemen, comrades, the bar! And you have not thought about the fact that we are to a greater extent to blame! Where were we when this rot was born? What, Ukraine will not go anywhere without attention ?! But now, when the roasted rooster pecked, they remembered that Ukrainians are brothers and sisters! That Russia began with Kievan Rus! Some kind of body movements began - late, a generation has grown up that hates willows and cannot be persuaded! Well, tell me what to do when such kids sing?
        1. smile
          smile April 2 2014 18: 27
          +2
          TekhnarMAF
          So, and you can articulately say - if we are to blame for the fact that Bandera, raising Ukrainian children in Russophobian spirit, then what exactly, eh?
          Please state, if in a condition, what is the fault of us all. And, if possible, without emotions and pathetic wringing little hands.

          Yes, for reference. The predecessors of Bandera rot were created at the end of the 19th century by the Austro-Hungarian General Staff.

          And the last one. I have a question for you. Why do you feel positive about the fact that Ukrainian boys and girls chant Ukrainian nationalists, simultaneously pouring mud on the Russians? Are you a Bandera or a general person? Why do not you just like folk songs performed by members of the Hitler Youth - these are the same children. Children who are raised in a Nazi spirit are exactly the same as Ukrainian children. But German children on the second video do not sing anything bad about us. What. if they sang about bloody Moscow. like Ukrainian kids, would you like the video? Shame on you?

          Frankly, I will not be surprised if you forget to answer me. :)))
        2. Leha leha
          Leha leha April 3 2014 15: 04
          0
          I will say, you need to score everything for this, it can’t be fixed anymore, it was hard for us, what kind of Ukraine is there ?. To return the South-East of Ukraine to Russia, and let Western women go to the EU and enjoy the charms of European life. Then, to monitor their younger generation, spiritual and patriotic education will correct everything, plus build up military power and strengthen the economy. Of course it sounds simple, it is not easy to do in the current situation, but without it nowhere.
      4. skifd
        skifd April 2 2014 19: 06
        +2
        Quote: Flood
        These are girls singing songs ...


        The people, for which we minus ??? It is laid out in order to see what they are doing with children, isn't it clear ??

        Wish the author, for everyone who is not "right away", make a clear explanation. And then there, in the heat of the moment, they pushed ...
        1. smile
          smile April 2 2014 19: 11
          +1
          skifd
          Yes, they have not figured it out, probably. And there, comrade TekhnarMAF, on the contrary, the song of the Natsiks you laid out brought an "Explosion of positive emotions", apparently he really likes it when the Banderaites teach children that Moscow is "bloody".
          1. skifd
            skifd April 2 2014 19: 35
            +1
            Quote: smile
            TekhnarMAF


            This tovarShch "technically" the arrows translated. Is it okay that Ukraine has been independent for 23 years, and our "90s" are still in agony? Well, they didn't have a leader (any, at least some) to stop this orgy! But all 23 years there was one song - do not meddle, we OURSELVES ... This is the question for the people living there, and where were they themselves? What, did not see, did not hear, Where was their MEMORY? So someone who, and we are not obliged now to pull the hair out on our heads and sprinkle ourselves with ashes like "forgive my brothers, did not see it, did not protect" .. Maybe only the common fault that they destroyed the Great Country, indulging cheap politicians, buying like always on fairy tales. And what is happening in Ukraine is simply painful.
            1. Vasek
              Vasek April 2 2014 20: 43
              +2
              Quote: skifd
              Is it okay that Ukraine has been independent for 23 years, and our "90s" are still in agony?

              Exactly - the first 10 of the mentioned 23 years that both in Ukraine, in Russia (and throughout the former USSR), the same messless mess was happening!
              Then Russia was lucky with the leader, and in Ukraine, one grabber continued to replace another. Most Ukrainians are not blamed for this, but the hydra managed to grow up and straighten its shoulders.
              Someday, ALL errors must be corrected, only now, the later - the more painful. In the meantime, we have what we have ...
            2. timurit
              timurit April 3 2014 00: 58
              +2
              why would you come to visit us in Crimea and look at the line in our Crimean passport offices, I hope the position of the people will not impede you in choosing citizenship
      5. Vasek
        Vasek April 2 2014 20: 29
        +1
        Quote: Flood
        These are girls singing songs ...

        And every verse with "gay" ends! wassat
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    7. Stalker
      Stalker April 2 2014 22: 11
      +4
      Caution !!! NATO goes east !!!! laughing
      1. timurit
        timurit April 3 2014 01: 09
        +1
        you are a stupid person more specifically, without a cigarette, do you still think that Russia is an island state? Then ddddaaaaaaa, specifically garden hemp chopping you up in hopelessness, and with a hedgehog with dad, you shouldn’t be a weapon of victory, we’re already going to put you at the dispensary for medical examination, AND BETWEEN if I were in the outskirts, I would vote for BAA ALEKSEEVICH VEYDER, along the way this is the most sane candidate, hhaa
        1. Vasek
          Vasek April 3 2014 05: 03
          +1
          Yes, March 30 to register so that for 3.5 days to have time to all naughty - a worthy position!
          go and trolls yourself in kaker, thinker!
  2. Nevsky_ZU
    Nevsky_ZU April 2 2014 11: 49
    +33
    Stay the witch old! angry
    1. W1950
      W1950 April 2 2014 11: 59
      +7
      Yes, she’s just stoned-chopped, so she carries such heresy. She has barnacles. Continuous in the cranial box.
      1. waisson
        waisson April 2 2014 12: 02
        +43
        no this disease
        1. novobranets
          novobranets April 2 2014 14: 12
          +2
          Coward, Dunce and Experienced.
          1. Vasek
            Vasek April 2 2014 20: 47
            0
            Quote: novobranets
            Coward, Dunce and Experienced.

            or three boobies laughing
        2. Ascetic
          Ascetic April 2 2014 14: 36
          +6
          Quote: waisson
          no this disease


          This is a new "Swedish family" under the Swedish flag ...
          1. Sergey Vl.
            Sergey Vl. April 2 2014 16: 28
            0
            "... Ukraine-mats,
            Anoint our prostate! .. "
            1. novobranets
              novobranets April 2 2014 16: 39
              +2
              Quote: Sergey Vl.
              "... Ukraine-mats,
              Anoint our prostate! .. "

      2. lukke
        lukke April 2 2014 12: 55
        +12
        Come on to you) Tymoshenko is a product of his time and place. If she had been three months ago, for example, the Chairman of the Supreme Council of Crimea - sensing financial flows from Russia, she would have been an even greater patriot of the Russian Federation than V. Putin. The girl earns as she can, and everything else is for the entourage ..
        1. dmitriygorshkov
          dmitriygorshkov April 2 2014 16: 08
          +2
          Quote: lukke
          The girl earns as she can, and everything else is for the entourage ..

          I agree! But those who are designed for this circus are taken at face value! And this is already tragic! fool
        2. askort154
          askort154 April 2 2014 16: 18
          +5
          lukke ..... The girl earns as she can, and everything else is for the entourage.


          I do not agree. She already had a taste of money. She wanted to taste the authorities.
          Having tasted it, her "roof" blew off. No drug can compare with this.
          Premiership is already not enough, it is imperative to be presidential, to the top of Olympus. And IT, one step left! But instead, a prison. Humiliated, trampled, but with the bestial
          a sense of revenge. Who? Of course, Yanukovych! And then her time came, she already felt her hands on the throat of Yanyka, and suddenly a bummer. Yanyk is not available, he is in Russia under Putin’s roof. The blood boiled in her veins with fury and desire for revenge on everyone and everything. Now she has three mortal enemies: Russia, Putin, Yanukovych. She realized that now the purpose of her life is to take revenge, considering that it’s better to do this by becoming president. It will not work
          now, he will go to the next election and so on until the end of his strength. He will not stop at nothing for revenge. The humiliated woman has no logic at all.
        3. timurit
          timurit April 3 2014 01: 20
          0
          you’re deeply mistaken, a stupid drug addict, by definition, wouldn’t have settled in our Crimea, for a simple reason, a stranger, but a stranger doesn’t live in Crimea, it’s the minimum ...
        4. I am proud of Russia
          I am proud of Russia April 3 2014 14: 19
          0
          Yeah ... corrupt like all their current power
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    2. waisson
      waisson April 2 2014 12: 00
      +28
      she wondered on tarot cards laughing - here and without it, to hell it’s clear that they are not in power and they rule there
      1. Roman 1977
        Roman 1977 April 2 2014 14: 12
        +8
        Ask in the bookstores of your city! We present to your attention the works of Yulia Vladimirovna Tymoshenko.
    3. skullcap
      skullcap April 2 2014 12: 36
      +2
      Quote: Nevsky_ZU
      Stay the witch old!

      Do not pay attention to her. This is already a waste product on the way to the landfill.
      1. Ased
        Ased April 2 2014 13: 10
        +2
        After serving her time, she needs to undergo psychotherapy in America. Two years. By American standards.
        And then she is for the president? :)))

        PS (lunatics are sitting in a circle)
        - Hello, my name is Julia, I am the future president of Ukraine ...
        (voices of loonies) - Hello Juli-i-aa ...
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      3. fghjvbn13
        fghjvbn13 April 2 2014 23: 57
        0
        should not be underestimated, she is without; clan-tribe ", and their survival is hellish!
    4. Corsair
      Corsair April 2 2014 13: 05
      +5
      Quote: Nevsky_ZU
      Stay the witch old!

      I won’t calm down ... Butting to the last.
      But of all that is happening now, the most interesting thing is that the events of the year 2004go are repeated.
      Let me remind you that then after the first Maidan, Tymoshenko clashed in a fight not for life, but for death with Poroshenko for the right to own the prime minister’s chair. Then she won by presenting Yushchenko with an ultimatum and threatening a new Maidan, and against him ...

      But again, all the same faces, only the post is already different and naturally other broader perspectives to "steer" ...
    5. Ascetic
      Ascetic April 2 2014 14: 33
      +9
      Quote: Nevsky_ZU
      Stay the witch old!


      Not Julia is just lovely ... belay
      1. timurit
        timurit April 3 2014 01: 27
        0
        it’s true along the way, but Crimea isn’t a hobitonia, here it’s ... utter mess, if anyone has a war, two cities are a hero, you can’t just fry the fried eggs on ETERNAL FIRE, a rash step to the edge
    6. Vasek
      Vasek April 2 2014 20: 45
      0
      Quote: Nevsky_ZU
      Stay the witch old!

      He will correct the hunchbacked grave.
      (Folk wisdom).
  3. Lantau
    Lantau April 2 2014 11: 49
    +47
    We are waiting for "new Crimea".
    1. ATATA
      ATATA April 2 2014 12: 10
      +32
      I think that "New Crimea" will be gone.
      Such things must be done either at once (together with the "old Crimea"), or not done at all.
      Yes, and now Russia will not pull up the economy of the entire SE of Ukraine in terms of money and other resources.
      Rather, there will be an attempt to "federalize" Ukraine.
      But not everything is clear on it.
      Or it will be under the guise of de jure federalization of the de facto division of Ukraine into at least 2 independent states (SE and the rest), but if it is federalization like the RF or Germany, it is not at all clear what it gives SE and Russia in particular.
      Hello!hi
      1. 77bob1973
        77bob1973 April 2 2014 12: 21
        +1
        Another thing is not clear, if Tymoshenko goes to the polls then on the 94-g constitution. you can forget, but then the question of legitimacy becomes even more acute, Yanukovych is still alive!
        1. ArhipenkoAndrey
          ArhipenkoAndrey April 2 2014 12: 30
          +5
          What kind of legitimacy is in blathate, who has stronger self-defense and is more legitimate, they taught Yulka in prison, and speaks like a pan Bandera, even the words are almost the same to kill and slaughter for the glory of Ukraine, in general, the prison hasn’t made anyone smarter, but especially for the female Yulkin mind affected.
          1. I am proud of Russia
            I am proud of Russia April 3 2014 14: 32
            0
            I agree ... she has a real paronoya already memorized phrases
      2. RUSS
        RUSS April 2 2014 12: 32
        +3
        Quote: ATATA
        Rather, there will be an attempt to "federalize" Ukraine.


        The "federalization" may be followed by the separation of regions.

        Quote: ATATA
        Or it will be under the guise of de jure federalization of the de facto division of Ukraine into at least 2 independent states (SE and the rest), but if it is federalization like the RF or Germany, it is not at all clear what it gives SE and Russia in particular.


        An example is Bosnia and Herzegovina.
        1. ATATA
          ATATA April 2 2014 12: 38
          +7
          Quote: RUSS
          The "federalization" may be followed by the separation of regions.

          Yes, only this will help Russia to eliminate this "historical misunderstanding" under the name of Ukraine.
          Because, just federalization is absolute nonsense.
          But even with the separation of regions, Russia will not be able in the near future to painlessly digest the entire SE at a time.
          There will be an intermediate era of pseudo states in place of SE.
          1. RUSS
            RUSS April 2 2014 12: 45
            +4
            Quote: ATATA
            There will be an intermediate era of pseudo states in place of SE.


            As an example, I gave the pseudo-state Bosnia and Herzegovina, which consists of pseudo-republics: the Croatian-Bosnian Federation and the Republika Srpska.
          2. RUSS
            RUSS April 2 2014 12: 47
            +3
            Quote: ATATA
            Because, just federalization is absolute nonsense.


            For Ukraine, federalization is the beginning of the end, but at this stage it is extremely necessary, no matter how crooked it may sound. The patient is terminally ill and "federation" is only a delay, and rather painless.
            1. ATATA
              ATATA April 2 2014 13: 05
              +4
              Quote: RUSS

              For Ukraine, federalization is the beginning of the end, but at this stage it is extremely necessary, no matter how crooked it may sound. The patient is terminally ill and "federation" is only a delay, and rather painless.

              It should be understood that what remains of the so-called Ukraine will be a hostile state for Russia.
              I am silent about Lviv and other traps, but what to do with Chernigov, Sumy, Poltava, where about Ukrainian moods are very strong?
              Yes, and SE today is hardly monolithic about Russian, it’s not the Crimea.
              There's the same lot of work on local brains.
              1. zmey_gadukin
                zmey_gadukin April 2 2014 16: 43
                -12%
                yes yes, our local brains are shocked by what they write on Russian resources
                we are looking here and can’t find Bandera at all and we are all waiting for the good green men to come to protect us from the raging fascism here))
                1. Gecko
                  Gecko April 2 2014 18: 18
                  +6
                  And you will be cured ...
                  1. revnagan
                    revnagan April 3 2014 11: 28
                    +2
                    Quote: gecko
                    And you will be cured ...

                    I would not be so categorical. The case is serious, the disease is in a very neglected form. Only amputation will help ... to the very head.
                2. Black
                  Black April 2 2014 18: 27
                  +2
                  Quote: zmey_gadukin
                  we are all waiting for the good green men to come to protect us from the raving here fascism )


                  Maybe lice? what
                  So I would say pediculosis ...
                  This is for you in the sanitary and epidemiological station .... To white men.
                3. yur
                  yur April 2 2014 20: 43
                  +1
                  Quote: zmey_gadukin
                  we are looking here and do not find Bandera and
                  What, and the mirror does not help?
                4. I am proud of Russia
                  I am proud of Russia April 3 2014 14: 38
                  0
                  it’s a pity that you don’t see ... when you see it will be too late .... and Russia will again be guilty that did not offer its help in time .... yes you live there as you want, choose who you want there .... but If NATO plans to settle near our borders, then do not blame me.
          3. Aleksandr65
            Aleksandr65 April 2 2014 13: 53
            +6
            What does "digest" mean? The East is a self-sufficient region, at present it is a donor of Ukraine and will fully feed itself.
            1. ATATA
              ATATA April 2 2014 14: 43
              +5
              Quote: Aleksandr65
              What does "digest" mean? The East is a self-sufficient region, at present it is a donor of Ukraine and will fully feed itself.

              It is self-sufficient only against the background of Ukraine, in order to pull it up to the level of the Russian Federation, astronomical injections of money will be needed, in industry, in infrastructure and others, etc., etc.
              In addition, the value of the SE of Ukraine from the point of view of the export potential for the RF tends to "0" and the RF will have to subsidize SE at the expense of the rest of Russia.
              To integrate a territory with a population of 20 million people into the Russian Federation, trillions are needed, and this is inevitable VERY SERIOUSLY will affect the economy of today's Russia in the short and medium term for the worse.
              At the same time, I emphasize that I am for the integration of the southeastern remnants of Ukraine into the Russian Federation, but this must be done in pieces and without boosting the capabilities of the Russian Federation, for 15-20 years.
              1. GRDS
                GRDS April 2 2014 14: 49
                +1
                [/ quote] It is self-sufficient only against the background of Ukraine, in order to pull it up to the level of the Russian Federation, astronomical injections of money will be needed, in industry, in infrastructure and others, etc., etc.
                In addition, the value of the SE of Ukraine from the point of view of the export potential for the RF tends to "0" and the RF will have to subsidize SE at the expense of the rest of Russia.
                To integrate a territory with a population of 20 million people into the Russian Federation, trillions are needed, and this is inevitable VERY SERIOUSLY will affect the economy of today's Russia in the short and medium term for the worse.
                At the same time, I emphasize that I am for the integration of the southeastern remnants of Ukraine into the Russian Federation, but this must be done in pieces and without boosting the capabilities of the Russian Federation, for 15-20 years.[/ Quote]

                YOUR OWN POCKET DOES NOT PULL !!! I think it’s somehow stretched out! Not the first time! The main thing is that SE will become more active!
              2. baltika-18
                baltika-18 April 2 2014 14: 55
                0
                Quote: ATATA
                To integrate a territory with a population of 20 million people into the Russian Federation, trillions are needed

                Quote: ATATA
                To integrate a territory with a population of 20 million people into the Russian Federation, trillions are needed

                Quote: ATATA
                I am for the integration of the southeastern remnants of Ukraine into the Russian Federation, but this should be done in pieces and without boosting the capabilities of the Russian Federation, for 15-20 years.
                Absolutely right.
                Quote: Lantau
                We are waiting for "new Crimea".
              3. aleks 62
                aleks 62 April 2 2014 15: 01
                +6
                ... Who will give you 15-20 years ???? Iron must be forged while it is hot .... And as for the infusion - so it pours it into the whole Vuykaina from the old production, all the more production belongs to large local capital - they will modernize for their oligarchic capital ...
                1. ATATA
                  ATATA April 2 2014 15: 10
                  +1
                  Quote: aleks 62
                  Who will give you 15-20 years ???? Iron must be forged while it is hot .... And as for the infusion - Duc, he pours it into old VUykaina from the old production, all the more production belongs to large local capital - they will upgrade for their oligarchic capital.

                  Not so simple.
                  Won in 2014, the Russian Federation will assist Crimea with 13 lards, and 100 is needed on the bridge, only on the bridge!
                  Most of the money will go to infrastructure.
                  I understand you as a resident of Ukraine, but quick miracles do not happen, if the Russian Federation breaks with the forced integration of Ukraine, it will not seem to be enough for the inhabitants of today's Russia or the residents of southeast Ukraine.
              4. smile
                smile April 2 2014 15: 54
                +2
                ATATA
                I agree with your opinion about the "cost" for Russia of the integration of the South-East. But it seems to me that in 10-15 years, the emergence of a desire in the South-East to integrate into Russia is unlikely.
                Look at the impact that 23-year-old anti-Russian propaganda has had on Ukrainians. How many bandarlogs appeared there. Now propaganda has begun to bear a total and unprecedentedly aggressive Russophobic character. By this time, the kids will grow up, who are now shouting joyfully - "don't jump, that m ... l" and sing funny songs in the manner of the Hitler Youth. By this time, those who remember the Union will age or die out. Yes, by this time Ukraine will be completely impoverished and will lose its industrial potential (by the way, the cost of integration will increase many times over) ... but it will finally turn into a country with a semi-fascist regime ... If, of course, current trends do not change.
                1. ATATA
                  ATATA April 2 2014 17: 10
                  +2
                  Quote: smile
                  Look at the impact of 23-year-old anti-Russian propaganda on Ukrainians. How many bandarlogs appeared there. Now propaganda has begun to have a total and unprecedentedly aggressive Russophobic character.

                  In order to conduct propaganda on the territory of SE Ukraine, the Russian Federation does not need to immediately attach this land. To do this, it is simple enough for the Russian Federation to build a competent and effective counter-propaganda.
                  Who prevented Russia from conducting such propaganda for 23 years?
                  Who prevented Russia from growing and lobbying for the sensible and pro Russian candidate for president of Ukraine over these 23 years?
                  Russia has not been engaged in Ukraine for 23 years, but now we want to join and settle everything in 6 months?
                  I doubt very much. hi
                  1. smile
                    smile April 2 2014 18: 49
                    +1
                    ATATA
                    Well, first of all, it’s difficult to conduct active propaganda in the country, which is actively opposing this, moreover, without reckoning with anything, including its laws — as in Ukraine. And in any case, there are fewer opportunities than the authorities.

                    secondly, a decade of the elebon from these 23 years should be thrown away. :)))

                    thirdly, nurturing presidential candidates is no easy task, even more so. that they had to choose from the national elite, largely formed under the influence of children from the Bloc of Captive Nations, and not only them.

                    fourthly, you are mistaken in believing. that we haven’t done anything for the last 13 years. By the way, mistakes and failures are inevitable for everyone - the fact that Ukraine has only now been made semi-fascist, and not immediately, as wanted by those who manage this process, is a clear confirmation of this.

                    fifthly - probably now it’s more important not to find out - what prevented us (although this is also important), but what we will do.

                    And finally, the last - of course, we want everything at once, more, and preferably, free then. :))) But this does not happen, I also doubt it very much. :))) But something needs to be done. In my opinion, now no one can say for sure how the mess arranged in Ukraine will end. OK let's see.
                    1. ATATA
                      ATATA April 2 2014 20: 17
                      -1
                      Quote: smile
                      Well, first of all, it’s difficult to conduct active propaganda in the country, which is actively opposing this, moreover, without reckoning with anything, including its laws — as in Ukraine.

                      OK!
                      Then the question is, why is it not difficult in Belarus?
                      Quote: smile
                      secondly, a decade of the elebon from these 23 years should be thrown away. :)))

                      OK!
                      So we had 13 years of odds.
                      How to use it?
                      Quote: smile
                      thirdly, growing presidential candidates is not an easy task, especially. what to choose from the national elite

                      Are you serious ?! In Ukraine, there is a national elite ?! ))))
                      Quote: smile
                      fourthly, you are mistaken in believing. that we haven’t done anything for the last 13 years. By the way, mistakes and failures are inevitable for everyone

                      I agree.
                      But he makes mistakes, he who does something at all.
                      But what has Russia done in Ukraine, even over the past 13 years, to change the consciousness of SE Ukraine.
                      I will say more over the past 13 years that a radical change occurred in the minds of many residents of the southeast of Ukraine in favor of banderlogs, because the Russian Federation did not do this NOTHING.
                      But this is not enough, I’ll open the secret of the Russian Federation and now practically NOTHING He doesn’t do on the field of ideological struggle for the not strong minds of the inhabitants of SE Ukraine.
                      Quote: smile
                      fifthly - probably now it’s more important not to find out - what prevented us (although this is also important), but what we will do.

                      I agree!
                      But it was necessary to think about it already at least from November 2013, and now it is time to act. What has been done on this field?
                      Quote: smile
                      And finally, the last - of course, we want everything at once, more, and preferably, free then. :))) But this does not happen, I also doubt it very much. :))) But something needs to be done. In my opinion, now no one can say for sure how the mess arranged in Ukraine will end. OK let's see.

                      That's for sure! drinks laughing
                      We will see. hi
                      1. smile
                        smile April 2 2014 21: 23
                        +3
                        ATATA
                        It’s good that you gave a comparison with Belarus. It seems to me that we are acting even less actively there than in Ukraine, but the result is different - simply because Butsk was not influenced by the forces that control the bandarlogs.
                        Regarding 13 years of handicap :))) wow handicap :))) And nevertheless, largely due to our propaganda Yushch left, a woman with a scythe, and we did not get what we now have in Ukraine for almost a dozen years back.
                        And as for the radical change - I think you are mistaken in believing that a significant change in the mentality of Ukrainians has occurred due to our inaction. The reason is that the generation simply grew up, which from the kindergarten age, the school desks taught us that we are enemies who constantly conquered and oppressed Ukraine, that we are not relatives, but enslavers. These people are now under thirty. All who are younger are the same and even more fooled. Politicians are mainly fostered on perestroika nationalist ravings. Well. and what could we do about it? Demand to change the kindergarten, school and university curriculum? How? Yes, and a time machine, like Vova still does not ..... :)))
                        So, sorry, but I believe that you are biased and overly categorical in negative assessments. Although, of course, I, too, am far from satisfied with everything.
                        And in general, what do you think we did not do, but could do?
                        Only, please, specific proposals, not general ones, like picking up your president. I repeat - this is very difficult. The credibility of a politician has been gaining for years. For example, the Americans did not really succeed. Look - they shuffle almost the same deck of politicians. And in our country they could not cope with this, although in the nineties they hosted us, as in their own pocket. :)))
                        By the way, I have a suspicion that the events in the Crimea ... uh, how to say this ... were not a strong surprise for our leadership. Too, swiftly, clearly and in an organized way everything happened. Probably, these events could be predicted and, just in case, an appropriate action plan was developed ... as soon as a certain situation arose, the mass of heterogeneous, so to say, offices and organizations fulfilled the plan smoothly and efficiently. I have no less suspicions :))) that with regard to further events, everything is not as hopeless as you say ... :))) You will probably also agree that it is not always worthwhile to advertise some of your actions and efforts on propaganda front ...

                        Somehow like this. Indeed, we will see ... where to go? :)))
                      2. ATATA
                        ATATA April 2 2014 21: 51
                        +2
                        Quote: smile
                        And in general, what do you think we did not do, but could do?
                        Only please specific offers

                        Okay Vladimir, here are my thoughts on this issue briefly. )
                        1 Provide immediately the opportunity for graduates of Ukrainian schools to enter any university of the Russian Federation on an equal footing with graduates of the Russian Federation (now this is not).
                        2 Give a discount on gas and oil, depending on the content of history books in Ukraine and the use of the Russian language.
                        3 To breed our NGOs in Ukraine in each district of all cities.
                        4 Bribing government officials of Ukraine without hesitation.
                        5 Encourage emigration of Ukrainians to the territory of the Russian Federation without bureaucratic hitches with the granting of citizenship of the Russian Federation.
                        6 CATEGORICALLY abandon the term Ukrainian people, for these are Russians who live on the territory of Ukraine, just as Russians living on the territory of Siberia are Siberians, not a nation.
                        Finally start REAL MERCY, TOTAL the war on corruption in the Russian Federation.
                        The first, but very timid steps are being taken in this direction.
                        No need for demonstrative executions on the territory of the Kyrgyz Republic; it is enough to form labor armies to equip Siberia.
                        It's short, literally on the knee, what to do IMMEDIATELYbut this has not been done so far.
                        Quote: smile
                        I have no less suspicions :))) that with regard to further events, too, not everything is as hopeless as you say ... :)))

                        I really want to sincerely believe in this. hi
                      3. smile
                        smile April 2 2014 23: 22
                        +1
                        ATATA
                        I answer. Let's go on points.

                        1 point - I agree.

                        2. They will not agree to correct school curricula and bring them in accordance with historical truth for any discounts - an independent lie - the basis of their statehood, except they have nothing to lie. For the bottom, this will be tantamount to recognition. that they always lied to Ukrainians. in everything and for any reason .... :))) With the same success, we can offer them for these discounts to enter Russia and transplant Bandera .... actually, I do not mind, but it will not work.

                        3. It will not succeed, Well, they will not let us create our NGOs - they have cut off the broadcast of television, and you are talking about NGOs that must exist openly. They will be able to use our very desire to discover them with much greater success, finally ceasing to falsify the fishing of people representing our swords, and will begin to take on NGO workers. Imagine what evidence will later be extracted from these people? With what noise our NGOs will be thrown out, what a shaft of disinformation will spill at the same time on Ukrainians. We reject the idea. :))))

                        4. Bribing officials is called otherwise - recruitment. :))) Take my word for it, everyone, including us, is engaged in recruitment. No matter what they say about our special services, now they are working at a very high level.

                        5. Citizenship migration has long been encouraged. The process itself, unfortunately, has not yet been made quite simple, but I repeat. programs adopted in the past decade. In any case, getting a residence permit is quick and easy enough. Now. By the way, a bill has been introduced to further simplify the procedure for accepting citizenship.

                        6. The prohibition of the term "Ukrainian people", especially CATEGORALLY, will lead to a diametrically opposite result. Many Ukrainians who treat us normally will be very offended. Bandera propaganda will choke with delight, saying that the oaths hate Ukrainians so much that even the term was banned, and their arguments will work.

                        We fight corruption no matter how things are going in Ukraine ... how do we fight? ... :))) Do not shoot the pianist, he plays as he can ... :))) In fairness, I want to say - now corruption we have almost an order of magnitude less frequent occurrence than, say, the year 96-99. Then they unveiled the whole country, on an unimaginable scale, a bribe to a judge could be given right at the reception - as, for example, now in Lithuania .... Now it is much harder for corrupt officials, and this is a fact. It is clear that the desired situation is far, but, by the way, corruption in our opinion now does not exceed the European average, and less than in many European countries (this is a personal impression). By the way, it was the Government that first started yelling about corruption, and then the oppositionists picked up the slogan ... not noticing that they were receiving information from ... government media that published materials about the disclosures ....
                        Just don’t tell me about Serdyukov, everything is incomprehensible to me and enrages me .... but if you compare, for example, with the USA, we have absolute prosperity in this area :))), the scale of theft of the military budget is too high for them, their data is stolen up to a third of the budget. Think about $ 200 billion a year. There are no serious functionaries landing, but the Americans don’t mud themselves because they have more corruption than ours ... and for some reason we are watering ourselves ....

                        That something like this.
                      4. fghjvbn13
                        fghjvbn13 April 3 2014 00: 21
                        +1
                        ... thanks, I support almost everything.
          4. I am proud of Russia
            I am proud of Russia April 3 2014 14: 48
            0
            or turn into a real game a stalker ...
        2. timurit
          timurit April 3 2014 01: 42
          0
          you forget a little about metallurgy, the products of which went by sea through the Kerch Strait, if not a foolish person, you must understand the situation, and the deprivation of the supply of high-tech products of Yuzhmash and his ilk (including Aprensenal and Luch) to Russia is just a slaughter for the outskirts , and people, in the course of it, didn’t even think when, and even less for brain potential,
    2. dmitriygorshkov
      dmitriygorshkov April 2 2014 16: 18
      +3
      Quote: ATATA
      There will be an intermediate era of pseudo states in place of SE.

      Why several? Rather one, and it is better for anyone to fall in love than under the protectorate of Banderlog, and the "world community" will have time to get used to the fact that SE is not Ukraine, well, or Another Ukraine!
      Now the main thing is not to merge everything into a heap, then we will not tear it apart, and the blood will be oh-oh-oh-oh!
  • Ascetic
    Ascetic April 2 2014 14: 46
    +10
    Quote: ATATA
    I think that "New Crimea" will be gone.
    Such things must be done either at once (together with the "old Crimea"), or not done at all.


    And you can slowly and step by step. An interesting article about this has recently appeared. Real Clear World: This is Putin's World
    In 2011, Putin announced a long-term strategy - attracting all the former Soviet republics to the Eurasian Union, which Russia will rule. Ukraine at present is the central and necessary element of this union, because without it this union does not give either economic or strategic meaning, given the great economic potential of Ukraine and its location between Russia and Europe.


    This is how Western geostrategic analysts assess the situation and conclude

    Putin believes that the West will not have enough resources, vision and patience to restore Ukraine. He believes that history is on his side, and that his world is real. The West has yet to prove that it is wrong.


    The struggle for the return of Ukraine to the Russian world has just begun ...
    1. ATATA
      ATATA April 2 2014 15: 16
      0
      Quote: Ascetic
      And you can slowly and step by step.

      About that and wrote above. hi
  • aleks 62
    aleks 62 April 2 2014 14: 55
    +15
    ... Regarding the pull will not pull:
    Mayor of Donetsk Alexander Lukyanchenko. “I will read out an extract from the state budget so that we know who is paying whom. The regional budget of the Ternopil region earns UAH 243 million 984,6 thousand, and subsidies from the state budget are provided - UAH 630 million 063 thousand. What is there to comment on? Ivano-Frankivsk region earns 341 million 938 thousand UAH, and 776 million 532 thousand UAH. - equalization subsidy from the state budget. Lviv region - 878 million 243 thousand UAH. earns, and 1 billion 358 million 253 thousand UAH. receives from the state budget. These subsidies include payments for reduced fares, benefits for children, and so on. Donetsk region earns UAH 4 billion 678 million 850 thousand, and state payments amount to UAH 1 billion 235 million ", - stressed Lukyanchenko. Donetsk and the district alone, giving three quarters of their earnings, feeds three black and red regions Two more black and red plus a dozen orange draws on themselves Kharkiv, Odessa, Lugansk, Dnepropetrovsk, and in return, black and red and orange teach us how to live, whom to honor and what language to speak.
    1. ATATA
      ATATA April 2 2014 15: 24
      0
      Quote: aleks 62
      ... Regarding the pull will not pull:
      The mayor of Donetsk, Alexander Lukyanchenko. “I will read the extract from the state budget ...

      The internal balance of Ukraine does not matter, the external balance is important, and it is negative, not only from the west of Ukraine. In general, the Ukrainian economy is not effective.
      The reasons for the overall inefficiency of the external economy are Ruins at the moment.
      In the Russian Federation, there are also subsidized regions, but the Russian Federation’s overall external trade balance is positive, due to this, the general standard of living of the Russian citizens is slowly but growing, if, after joining SE Ruins in the Russian Federation, the external economic balance will become negative, then we will all begin to move out in the ass.
      1. GradusHuK
        GradusHuK April 2 2014 17: 48
        +3
        What kind of debate? it is necessary to help and support Yu-V. The USSR collapsed quickly. No one counted anything.
    2. nogBogHuk
      nogBogHuk April 2 2014 16: 36
      +3
      The revenues of the consolidated budget of the Belgorod region for 2014 are planned in the amount of 62 488 932 thousand rubles
      In hryvnias it will be 20 187 936.78 and this is not a rich province (region)
      in 2013 there were 57 thousand rubles.
  • Vasek
    Vasek April 2 2014 20: 53
    0
    Quote: ATATA
    Yes, and now Russia will not pull up the economy of the entire SE of Ukraine in terms of money and other resources.

    SE of Ukraine may itself add resources to the common piggy bank.
    1. ATATA
      ATATA April 2 2014 21: 13
      +1
      Quote: Vasek
      SE of Ukraine may itself add resources to the common piggy bank.

      It is unfortunate, but now it is unlikely ...
      Why the Russian Federation Donbass, the Russian Federation has Kuzbass ..
      The cost of coal mining in Kuzbass is less and this coal will be enough for the Russian Federation and Ukraine ..
      Metallurgists? So the Russian Federation has enough of its own ..
      Residual foci of high-tech industries? ..
      And what to do with them when you have your own, but already pumped? ..
      Unfortunately, the essence of the struggle between the Russian Federation and the West in Ukraine is not in the struggle for people, but in the struggle for territory, the whole question is price.
      Which is cheaper?
      To deliver missiles aimed at the Russian Federation in Ukraine, or to incinerate them in a thermonuclear strike?
      The answer lies with the people who live in Ukraine ...
  • rolik
    rolik April 2 2014 19: 10
    +2
    Quote: Lantau
    We are waiting for "new Crimea".

    Dear moderators. This video is not my work of authorship. This video is posted on Y. Tube, and is allowed to view.
    This video is following the photo of Yulenka and the caricature of Crimea))))))
  • Keeper
    Keeper April 2 2014 11: 50
    +4
    Well, just like in that verse "If you have a squirrel, there will be a whistle" ...
    - Baby! YES I have a hundred thousand chandeliers yet! (Carlson even had a propeller behind him, and this aunt is no different from ordinary liars)
    1. major071
      major071 April 2 2014 12: 21
      +9
      Romanov - Respect! hi The topic was raised very serious. good
      I have two opinions: the first is she du.ra (I don’t believe it myself), explain why. The people will not follow her, remembering her former premiership, now her proteges Turchinov-Yaytsenyukh are generally in the red, (they even mumble them), nobody listens to her, in general from all sides full of alles, but she wants to become a condom from any angle, even against the background that the president’s powers are being cut off at the most reluctant.
      Second: someone is standing behind her, and very serious. And here you need to think. If the USA is behind it, then they put the wrong horse (most likely it will come last), but if we assume that Julia works for Russia (I would not exclude this option), then ... hi
      1. Arberes
        Arberes April 2 2014 12: 37
        +6
        Quote: major071
        If the USA is behind it, then they put the wrong horse (most likely it will come last),

        Horse racing.

        Was Barack wrong?
        Julia will not come first!
        This nag will die soon
        Over the Crimea, the sun rises!
      2. nachprod 92
        nachprod 92 April 2 2014 13: 25
        +7
        Dear Vladimir! Of TOPWAR’s marshals, is there anyone with the right to submit, if not a vote, even public opinion to the authorities? So many correct patriotic speeches, and today the JUNTA has captured, I believe, the most ardent Afro-guy (Dark Lenin), who spoke at the rally yesterday. I don’t know how to help him, maybe he can chip in and buy it back if our specialists are not able to steal it? Sick!
        1. zzz
          zzz April 2 2014 13: 49
          +6
          Quote: nachprod 92
          Today, the JUNT has captured, I believe, the most ardent Afro-boy (Dark Lenin), who spoke at the rally yesterday. I don’t know how to help him, maybe he can chip in and buy it back if our specialists are not able to steal it? Sick!


          That’s how all the good people were taken to SE ......... and no response or greetings, it’s scary to think what they are doing with them.
          1. GradusHuK
            GradusHuK April 2 2014 17: 50
            +1
            Europeans ((
        2. smile
          smile April 2 2014 16: 04
          +6
          nachprod 92
          Sorry to be responsible for Vladimir ... however, I am also Vladimir :))) But I want to tell you that the marshals and generalissimuses of the site are no different from you in their capabilities. They do not have much authority, not smarter and not more knowledgeable than you. And if they differ in something, then this in no way depends on the rating on the site. Alas.
          It's a pity. :))))
        3. major071
          major071 April 2 2014 20: 34
          +8
          nachprod 92
          Of TOPWAR’s marshals, is there anyone with the right to submit, if not a vote, even public opinion to the authorities?

          Dear Arthur, excuse me for not being able to answer right away, but Vladimir (smile) answered me one-on-one. I fully agree with him. We are all human, we are all human. hi
          1. nachprod 92
            nachprod 92 April 2 2014 21: 23
            0
            Thanks for the answer, I will not leave the resource so as not to miss the command "Become", PS: Where did the respected Asgard go? (His comments were not superfluous to understand the situation).
      3. sv68
        sv68 April 2 2014 13: 25
        0
        three stand behind her, two with a stretcher, one with a torus laughing
      4. Uncle
        Uncle April 2 2014 13: 52
        +1
        Quote: major071
        Romanov - Respect! hi

        I agree.
      5. thrower
        thrower April 2 2014 14: 30
        +3
        Julia doesn’t work for Russia, for example, her imprisonment would have been dragged out.
        And nobody stands behind her, she is an independent politician.
        BUT !!! She is independent, cynical, does not have constant friends, and at the same time she can agree with almost anyone. Now she is dragging zapadentsev to her side, yet she is positioning herself as a moderate radical. And taking into account the fact that at the elections the opinion of the South and East of Ukraine may not be taken into account at all, then she has very real chances to win.
        And yet, the time when she led the country, now in Ukraine is remembered only in pink.
        1. aleks 62
          aleks 62 April 2 2014 15: 07
          +4
          And yet, the time when she led the country, now in Ukraine is remembered only in pink .....
          Aha !!!! Wait !!! Remember we are these hands that "did not steal anything", only the size of the bribes at one moment increased 3 times at once !!! And not only ... This is only the Kyvlyans for her ... they tore avidly, I communicated with them at that time ...
      6. aleks 62
        aleks 62 April 2 2014 15: 02
        +1
        ... Bullshit ... Full ... (about who works for STONE)
        1. thrower
          thrower April 2 2014 15: 06
          0
          Are there any better versions?
  • Rus2012
    Rus2012 April 2 2014 11: 51
    +8
    if Europe does not intercede and urgently accept Ukraine into NATO

    Then NATa will really have to start fighting with the partisans in ruin ...
    According to the famous saying: "One Ukrainian is a partisan. Two Ukrainians are a partisan detachment. Three Ukrainians are a partisan detachment with a collaborationist" ...
    Wellcome comrades!
    bully soldier
    1. Mainbeam
      Mainbeam April 2 2014 12: 24
      +1
      I also think that Eastern Ukraine, if brought into its territory, will revive the partisan movement. I do not know how with the equipment, but with enthusiasm for sure. The Yankos will need more troops than in Iraq to keep Slavic lands under control. Maybe this is what they fear? It is easier to print 1 billion wrappers, and maintain chaos with its democracy.
  • Wiruz
    Wiruz April 2 2014 11: 51
    +11
    Tymoshenko predicted the emergence of "a dozen new Krymov" in Ukraine

    Well, since she insists so winked winked winked
    1. nov_tech.vrn
      nov_tech.vrn April 2 2014 12: 03
      +4
      seer, soon the submarine "Zaporozhets" will be returned and delivered to Lviv, the capital of the independent Ukrainian republic of Galicia.
      1. Wiruz
        Wiruz April 2 2014 12: 32
        +2
        As far as I know, Kazakhstan decided to buy "Zaporozhye" in order to use it as a static training ground for our future divers. And then, by the 18th year, the Kazakh Navy will buy five more such submarines from Russia, only new ones.
        I neigh all night yesterday laughing laughing laughing
        http://news.mail.ru/inworld/kazakhstan/politics/17641656/
        1. Mainbeam
          Mainbeam April 2 2014 12: 53
          +5
          Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation Sergey Shoigu ordered Ukraine to return the remaining part of armored vehicles and military vessels in the Crimea, including the only Ukrainian diesel-electric submarine Zaporozhye.

          However, Ukraine refused to accept the boat, because in Odessa, where the Ukrainian Navy is currently based, there is no adequate infrastructure to keep the submarine afloat in combat-ready condition.

          Since Kazakhstan has already negotiated with Rostekhvoruzhenie about the prospects of ordering a series of submarine diesel-electric boats for the Caspian Sea at the Krasnoye Sormovo plant in Nizhny Novgorod, the Russian military proposed using Zaporozhye as a training base for Kazakhstani submariners.

          Presumably, Russia is ready to deliver a series of five diesel submarines of the 641 project to Kazakhstan before the 2018 year, based in the deep-sea Caspian port of Bautino.
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        2. family tree
          family tree April 2 2014 13: 50
          +5
          Quote: Wiruz
          Kazakhstan decided to buy "Zaporozhye" in order to use it as a static training ground for our future divers. And then, by the 18th year, the Kazakh Navy will buy five more such submarines from Russia, only new ones.

          belay Why the heck are they needed in this puddle? With its depths? Five? Do you feel sorry for the boys? Better a couple of three, something like "Zubrov"
          1. Wiruz
            Wiruz April 2 2014 14: 12
            +8
            Why the hell are they needed in this puddle?

            You know how in a bathhouse - whoever has longer is cooler. Kyrgyzstan has many submarines - not a single one, and we have five (will be) laughing .
            I generally wonder why diesel ordered and not nuclear.
            But, in general, against the background of the proposal from Togo-Over-No-No-Joke about renaming Kazakhstan to Kazakh Fir, the purchase of submarines for the Caspian Sea seems almost absurd.
            1. family tree
              family tree April 2 2014 14: 26
              +5
              Quote: Wiruz
              the purchase of submarines for the Caspian Sea seems almost absurd.

              I mnu brain wedge from such news. Refuses to accept recourse
              Is the admiral already? Or will we also order? You will take, take sensible, you look, and advises what Tom-Over-No-No-Joke hi
        3. zeleznijdorojnik
          zeleznijdorojnik April 3 2014 01: 20
          +2
          Pay attention - the article is written on April 1st. There is no doubt that the National Academy of Sciences of Ukraine can buy this boat - the 641st project will be commissioned - 200% a joke - there are already no technologies, and no one will re-equip pr-in for an installable batch of 5 pennants.
          1. family tree
            family tree April 3 2014 07: 23
            +1
            Quote: zeleznijdorojnik
            Pay attention - the article is written on April 1st.

            Md what Indeed, a raffle laughing
    2. mad
      mad April 2 2014 12: 09
      +4
      One Crimea is enough for us, only we will move its borders to the Dnieper! And the old criminal Yulka will help us, now she’s not the first time secretly to cooperate with the administration wassat
      1. Wiruz
        Wiruz April 2 2014 12: 35
        +3
        One Crimea is enough for us

        I do not agree, it is necessary to take away from Ukraine all the South-Eastern regions, primarily those that have access to the sea. Moreover, in those regions, there is also a distrust of the "new government" among residents. If only Odessa Darth Vader was not against laughing
      2. timurit
        timurit April 3 2014 02: 03
        -1
        only presidential candidate DART ALEKSEEVICH VEYDER will help us, I don’t know how with the language of the Sith, but the collapse of the outskirts is provided much faster and more predictable
  • svetlomor
    svetlomor April 2 2014 11: 52
    +6
    “The whole world should significantly strengthen the Ukrainian army, not for the sake of war, but as a way to ensure stability and deterrence potential,” she says.
    And the sooner it amplifies, the sooner it all appears on the shelves of online stores.
    1. podpolkovnik
      podpolkovnik April 2 2014 12: 38
      +6
      Quote: svetlomor
      “The whole world should significantly strengthen the Ukrainian army, not for the sake of war, but as a way to ensure stability and deterrence potential,” she says.
      And the sooner it amplifies, the sooner it all appears on the shelves of online stores.


      Narkarkala ....
  • desant_doktor
    desant_doktor April 2 2014 11: 52
    +3
    Damn, what are they smoking there? If we follow the hypothesis that psychopathology is infectious in nature and, therefore, infectious, then a sickly epidemic awaits square. It is time to send not "polite people", but polite psychiatrists - in regiments and divisions ...
    1. thrower
      thrower April 2 2014 14: 34
      +1
      They will soon grow hemp there, so psychiatrists are not needed, they themselves will calm down. wassat
  • Name
    Name April 2 2014 11: 54
    +7
    Advise: Julia-II, take away from 1654 of the year while they leave, and ... And that will not happen ...
  • ZU-23
    ZU-23 April 2 2014 11: 54
    +4
    Thank you Alexander for the article, Julia is a fallen woman, the Kurds isolated Ukraine from the Russian media and scare people that we are about to step on them.
  • Lissyara
    Lissyara April 2 2014 11: 55
    +16
    “It turned out that in 2013 she earned 180 hryvnia ($ 000) ... Due to health problems, Tymoshenko did not work. But she led the party“ VO Batkivshchyna ”, for which she received a monthly salary of 22 hryvnia ".
    Why didn't they throw another cry into an independent cry, SMS in favor of the "impoverished" Timokha? smile
    1. avant-garde
      avant-garde April 2 2014 12: 00
      +4
      But there is also a cozl, rule,
      For all, as with reptiles, they will ask you.
      There bashli and otmazy not kanayut,
      There, your lice will be redeemed at times!
      You are not bothered by a botal or a cannon;
      the people will tear you to pieces
      And you your filthy red yushka
      Answer for everything for the last time!

      Maybe she should say so ?!
    2. es.d
      es.d April 2 2014 23: 33
      0
      Quote: LiSSyara
      Due to health problems, Tymoshenko did not work.

      They are all silver-free there. The same Yarosh ...
      ... The leader of the "Right Sector", presidential candidate Dmitry Yarosh in 2013 had no official income. This is confirmed by his declaration of income, submitted to the Central Election Commission for registration as his candidate.

      According to the declaration, in 2013 Yarosh had no income. The official income of his family of four people amounted to 807 UAH for 2013. Yarosh, like his family members, has no bank savings or contributions to the authorized capital ...
  • Tima
    Tima April 2 2014 11: 55
    +5
    How could she sew gloves, she’s sick, on her head! God forbid a finger prick, you can work only with your mouth
  • a52333
    a52333 April 2 2014 11: 56
    +6
    Apparently, during a cold, she caught a cold in one place, but without sex she is fierce .... crying
  • mabuta
    mabuta April 2 2014 11: 56
    +12
    If only not a dozen Maidans. But Tymoshenko after the phone, already a slag, not a candidate.
  • Coffee_time
    Coffee_time April 2 2014 11: 59
    +6
    The holes in her skull are missing
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  • olegglin
    olegglin April 2 2014 12: 00
    +5
    "... Wore squirrel coats, crocodile skin
    She laid everything on the colonels, her legs washed for the night
    I completely forgot the thieves' world and get a pen for it ... "
    History repeats itself ...
  • Fantazer911
    Fantazer911 April 2 2014 12: 00
    +8
    I forgot to say about the yacht and the two-level apartment in May. That's where the greedy Jewess lays down to her God like a mad dog
    1. zzz
      zzz April 2 2014 12: 11
      +1
      Quote: Fantazer911
      I forgot to say about the yacht and the two-level apartment in May. That's where the greedy Jewess lays down to her God like a mad dog


      Is there really no way to shut her mouth forever? I am not in the sense of killing the physical, but in the sense of the political ... and finally, to make it so that she was simply afraid and say the word against Russia ??? Are there really no such methods?
  • mamont5
    mamont5 April 2 2014 12: 01
    +5
    "Tymoshenko prophesied the appearance in Ukraine of" a dozen new Crimea "
    This will happen, she is sure, if Europe does not intercede and urgently accepts Ukraine into NATO. "
    What clairvoyance, after all, it's a no brainer that new "Crimea" will necessarily appear (with such a policy of today's temporary ones), but it is also understandable that neither Europe nor the United States will take a single decisive step against Russia (they are not suicides).

    "Tymoshenko is confident that helping Ukraine is a global task." The whole world must significantly strengthen the Ukrainian army, not for the sake of war, but as a way to ensure stability and deterrent potential. "
    The whole world has nothing more to do, only Ukraine to wipe the nozzles and change diapers.

    "But if Yulia Vladimirovna still sewed mittens, put an autograph on them, and the prison administration sold them through an auction, earnings could be much higher. What businessman would refuse to have mittens made by Tymoshenko in his collection?"
    I think that Julia should take note of this, because it is not yet evening and everything can happen.
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    2. Lissyara
      Lissyara April 2 2014 13: 26
      +5
      Anecdote in the topic:
      "Timoshenko and the FEMEN movement have mourning in connection with the Crimean events.
      The girls have their boobs down. "
  • Cossacks
    Cossacks April 2 2014 12: 06
    +1
    You flatter her so much attention.
    1. Turkir
      Turkir April 2 2014 13: 49
      +2
      The right sector is working for Tymoshenko. Enemies must be given close attention.
      And the jokes cheer up.
      Only here I do not like the banter, many write it for the sake of the stars on the shoulder straps.
      Oh! Everywhere there are careerists.
      lol
  • Vadim-Skeptic
    Vadim-Skeptic April 2 2014 12: 06
    +2
    I believe that Tymoshenko is at the heart of the aggression - her curators are late in assessing the situation and with the reaction. They are trying to force the fulfillment of their plans, so it turns out like this: rude, open, tyap-blunder.
  • desant_doktor
    desant_doktor April 2 2014 12: 08
    +4
    And the words - such as negotiations with Russia will only be about surrender. Our President sighed and replied: "Well, if they insist, I'll hit the road myself and Kiev, I'll take it."
  • maestro123
    maestro123 April 2 2014 12: 08
    +2
    We need to do everything possible to take control of the territories of Ukraine that are loyal to us, NATO’s tactics and strategy are moving towards this goal, we need to get ahead of them before the Ukrainian army regains consciousness with the help of the West, then we can regret it.
    1. thrower
      thrower April 2 2014 14: 36
      +2
      First, these territories should become loyal. So far they are asking Russia to do everything for them.
  • RUSS
    RUSS April 2 2014 12: 09
    +1
    Each person goes crazy in his own way, Yulia was "covered" apparently during his imprisonment, and when released from an overabundance of feelings, the body did not cope and then the psycho-emotional state was shaken completely.
    1. novobranets
      novobranets April 2 2014 14: 26
      0
      There is also an important detail, if the opponent wins, Yulka runs the risk of going to the kichu, sitting out. The opportunity is real, because she has already gotten everyone, and she has very few supporters. They will put on her a "humble" and that-that, in prison.
  • LIS 25
    LIS 25 April 2 2014 12: 10
    0
    They released the psychotic to freedom, so freedom and spring blew her roof, as in the song "freaky spring". wassat if this continues, all the "new Crimea" will become part of Russia. soldier
  • Dazdranagon
    Dazdranagon April 2 2014 12: 10
    +1
    The whole world should significantly strengthen the Ukrainian army
    - have already begun - the USA sent dry packs, Uganda - rhinoceros litter ... Oh, I can’t, the navel of the Earth is right, everyone owes it ... Was Julia in prison exactly? The impression is that in a psychiatric hospital ... She thinks she is Napoleon !!! laughing
    independence and sovereignty of Ukraine
    - why Ukraine ??? I thought these words only apply to 3 countries. It's like "healthy food at McDonald's" or "Barack Obama is the guarantor of democracy" ... laughing
  • WKS
    WKS April 2 2014 12: 13
    +4
    What rhetoric this criminal has! "The West should", "The whole world should", "Russia should", etc. Who is it for? Most likely on the internal i.e. Ukrainian, zombie consumer.
  • SAM0SA
    SAM0SA April 2 2014 12: 13
    0
    Trying to drop in on the outgoing train with the election. Yes, and it’s hard for her now - the transitional age, men (not gayrope) can’t even be lured with a bucket of dumplings ... although it would be so worthwhile to draw our attention to ourselves.
  • imugn
    imugn April 2 2014 12: 14
    +1
    Federalization is the protection of national minorities. For example, subjects from the Russian Federation do not have the right to withdraw under the Constitution of the Russian Federation. The same is possible in Ukraine, so Tymoshenko is lying again. However, most Ukrainians seem to have turned their backs on Russia
  • Oleg Sobol
    Oleg Sobol April 2 2014 12: 14
    +4

    Relentlessly crazy girl
    Shouted: "I clearly see Troy fallen to dust!"
    But clairvoyants - however, like eyewitnesses -
    In all ages, people have been burned at the stake.


    V.S. Vysotsky
  • vdovinab
    vdovinab April 2 2014 12: 16
    +2
    Wrap a scythe in your hand and go out in the backside with reins! You look, you will let go of crap, but it will not help to repeat 50-60 times! yes
    1. perm23
      perm23 April 2 2014 12: 24
      +1
      No, she will like and ask. Like our Puxi Wright
  • skyil
    skyil April 2 2014 12: 16
    +3
    Yes, give her a dose, but the identity will not calm down wassat
  • perm23
    perm23 April 2 2014 12: 20
    +1
    Quite a woman flew off the coils. That's what hormones do. A peasant that is normal in power in Ukraine or all Natsik and gay. Well, help her to sleep with her. I understand that it’s disgusting, but after all, a woman freaks out.
  • perm23
    perm23 April 2 2014 12: 23
    +2
    Let's give her a dog. maybe a better woman.
  • Million
    Million April 2 2014 12: 23
    +1
    and they say that women politicians are more compromise, reasonable, humane than men politicians
    1. RUSS
      RUSS April 2 2014 12: 37
      +3
      Between Western Ukrainians and Eastern, much more alien and different, for example, than between Russians and Serbs, therefore, the Federation is one and probably the only way out of the impasse in Ukraine, although I am sure that the east of Ukraine will return to Russia, a matter of time ... no hurry will be.
    2. Turkir
      Turkir April 2 2014 13: 52
      +4
      and they say that women politicians are more compromise, reasonable, humane than men politicians

      Women invented it - to be in the spotlight, this is ... this is .. orgasm.
      repeat
    3. thrower
      thrower April 2 2014 14: 38
      +2
      This is a fallacy, M. Thatcher, C. Rice, A. Merkel and others as an example. And in general, a normal woman will not get into politics, there you have to be an uncompromising st.
  • vdovinab
    vdovinab April 2 2014 12: 30
    +1
    Quote: perm23
    Let's give her a dog. maybe a better woman.

    It’s a pity for the doggie! But I’ll deafen the very thing. The other end is the yatsyk! am
  • batia72
    batia72 April 2 2014 12: 30
    0
    everything- it is urgent to punish Tymoshenko overseers for hitting her head, as well as they / overseers / should get angry in front of the people of Ukraine for this!
  • armandos
    armandos April 2 2014 12: 30
    +2
    I am simply struck by the position of Ukraine. Do they really think that Americans can be dealt with? This is what you need to be stupid to ask for military assistance from the West against the Russian Federation? Tymoshenko must be rotted in Siberia!
  • Sinbad
    Sinbad April 2 2014 12: 33
    +27
    For that fought for it and ran.
  • johnsnz
    johnsnz April 2 2014 12: 33
    +2
    Shot from an atomic pistol, ..uka !!!
  • waisson
    waisson April 2 2014 12: 34
    +9
    here they are all eager for power and the difference between them is what
  • Skaramaks
    Skaramaks April 2 2014 12: 34
    0
    No, I'm climbing! Again, someone owes them something!
  • sanek0207
    sanek0207 April 2 2014 12: 34
    +6
    I don’t understand something, eh !? Such a pancake in Kiev is all cool, "independent", and they ask for help from the West as on the porch, which is too weak! ?? because you are not good-looking, you are used to going to paradise on someone else's, and now, like an offended slut runs to complain to the "roof", so is Timoshenchikha along with the yaytsenyuha !!! Where is your independence, eh ?? The beggars are horseradish !!!
  • Arh
    Arh April 2 2014 12: 41
    +2
    The Russian-Armenian origin of this madman playing with politics)))
  • KOSMOS
    KOSMOS April 2 2014 12: 42
    +1
    We cook popcorn, sit back ....... we’ll see a lot of miracles before the elections, the main thing is not to take it to heart!
  • vdovinab
    vdovinab April 2 2014 12: 44
    +2
    Quote: armandos
    I am simply struck by the position of Ukraine. Do they really think that Americans can be dealt with? This is what you need to be stupid to ask for military assistance from the West against the Russian Federation? Tymoshenko must be rotted in Siberia!

    Why Russian taxpayers need IT! Let IT live in Guantanamo.
  • Russ69
    Russ69 April 2 2014 12: 50
    +4
    Of the property, Tymoshenko has an apartment with a total area of ​​59,4 square meters. No other real estate, as well as vehicles, businesses and bank accounts, is listed on the declaration.
    1. svp67
      svp67 April 2 2014 16: 38
      +2
      In the meantime ...
      Tymoshenko brought a declaration of income to the CEC. As stated in the declaration, ex-premier received UAH 180,0 thousand in 2013 as wages, remuneration or other payments.
      In addition, Tymoshenko owns an apartment of 59,4 sq.m. The ex-premier does not own any other property or financial savings.

      From the commentary of Ukrainians ...
      Barbarian 01.04.2014/12/28 1:XNUMX -XNUMX+23+1
      Confiscate all the houses that supposedly belong to her, let him live in his apartment :)

      Valery Nord 01.04.2014/14/40 1:XNUMX -XNUMX+9+1
      - Yulia Tymoshenko returned to Ukraine. In Germany, her back was cured. - And the head? - They didn’t touch my head. They need her so much!

      pasichnichenko boris 01.04.2014/21/37 1:XNUMX -XNUMX+9+1
      even sitting in prison - this lady managed to earn 6 times more than the average (WORKING) Ukrainian. How much is she with ... um in the wild?
      I think it's time to forget about it for a long time - yesterday’s hero


      And NOT ONE in support, everyone draws his own conclusions ...
  • Alexey
    Alexey April 2 2014 12: 50
    0
    Mobilization of the southeast on April 6th! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8s1IetITWs
  • Semenov
    Semenov April 2 2014 12: 51
    +1
    Apparently, the EU, represented by Germany, refused to support it after the "atomic weapon". Now he is looking for other sponsors - NATO in the person of the United States.
  • Kulneff2009
    Kulneff2009 April 2 2014 12: 52
    +2
    Hr to her in jo.u instead of dill !!!!!!!!!!!!!
    1. skifd
      skifd April 2 2014 22: 06
      +1
      Nothing to pamper her. Interrupted.
  • Little Muck
    Little Muck April 2 2014 12: 54
    -5
    I think the emergence of "new Crimea" is at least a sick hypothesis. If you look at what is happening from the outside and think about what Putin is doing, unlike many Western politicians, you will notice that the joining of new territories and a huge population to Russia is simply beyond our reach. And it is quite obvious that with the breakaway of new territories, a huge number of new enterprises "nationalized by the people" will appear (all power to the people!). These guys are the revolution of 1917 in a new light. And how can all this be accepted in a country full of corrupt and illegally seized "privatized" factories, factories, lands and ships? All this can give rise to just indignation within the country, but why does our president need it? He is definitely not a suicide, as his clique will crucify himself (after all, no one wants to part with the plundered people's property). So soon we will see how our bandits-oligarchs, led by the leader, will share "honestly" the spheres of influence in Ukraine with the West and the USA. They will agree on the neutrality of Ukraine on the military issue, but they will spit on the people. And only if the river of human blood flows, no matter how cynical it may sound, can everything change.