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Fully electric aircraft will be created by 2022 year.

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A scientific and technical council (NTS) was held at Aviadvigatel OJSC, dedicated to the creation of a propulsion system for an aircraft with fully electrified equipment, the company's press service reported.


The reason for the event was the decision of the Expert Council of FSUE "TsAGI" to recommend for approval to the Ministry of Industry and Trade of Russia the draft "Integrated program for the creation of an all-electric aircraft". This program is designed for the period from 2014 to 2022. Modernization of the PS-90A engine and its systems under the PES concept is to be carried out by the Perm Design Bureau in cooperation with other enterprises.

The concept of an aircraft with fully electrified equipment (the well-known name is “all-electric aircraft” or PES) means an aircraft with a single centralized power supply system that provides all the energy needs of the aircraft.

Representatives of OAO Tupolev, FSUE TsIAM, OAO UEC, OAO NPO Saturn, OAO UMPO - OKB named after A. Lyulki, OJSC Elektroprivod, OMKB, OJSC Molniya, OJSC Star, OJSCAviation equipment ", CJSC" Diaconte ".

The participants of the NTS discussed the state and prospects of creating a power plant for a PES, the direction and technology of electrification of a power plant, including promising developments in the field of ACS and electromechanical drives.

“When developing an experimental engine based on PS-90А for PES, we should use all the experience that we have gained in creating the PD-14 engine. We have to apply technologies - from design to production - competitive in the first quarter of the XXI century, ”said Alexander Inozemtsev, general designer of Aviadvigatel OJSC.

To conduct flight tests of the new equipment, it is planned to create a flying laboratory based on the Tu-214 aircraft (No. 64501) with its further development to the upgraded Tu-214E.

In total, it is planned to involve more than 100 enterprises of the aviation, radioelectronic and electrical industries, as well as a number of leading academic institutions of the Russian Academy of Sciences in the implementation of the PES program.

The implementation of the PES concept will lead to the exclusion of hydraulic and pneumatic power systems, will allow building an aircraft engine without a drive box, which will result in lower take-off weight, fuel savings, reduced life cycle cost of the aircraft, and increased mean time to failure.
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  1. conscientious
    conscientious April 1 2014 12: 49
    -5
    Apollosha from Azerbaijan in shock wassat
    Members of the forum, are you not sick that an Azeri moder will ban you for being Russians?
    Do we have enough Russian forum users? Maybe it’s time to collect moderators from America or Russophobic Poland as well?
    1. conscientious
      conscientious April 1 2014 13: 05
      +2
      And the arguments, instead of the cons?
      Or is our Azerbaijani Apolosha all? wassat
      Believe me, within six months Russia will have to slip Aliyev, so that he forgot about Karabakh and Apollogesh will come off here bully
      And a request to the admin: Vadim leave me clean epaulets soldier
      1. buzuke
        buzuke April 1 2014 13: 22
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        what kind of nonsense are you writing? how does "this" compare to the article?
        1. conscientious
          conscientious April 1 2014 13: 25
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          Quote: buzuke
          what kind of nonsense are you writing? how does "this" compare to the article?

          Do you relate to the article baseline through your empty comment? wassat
    2. conscientious
      conscientious April 1 2014 13: 31
      -1
      Quote: Conscientious
      Members of the forum, are you not sick that an Azeri moder will ban you for being Russians?

      I realized that the forum became Azerbaijani and Apollo’s apologist for it negative
    3. f.lourens
      f.lourens April 1 2014 13: 39
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      Who cares who the moderator is .. you don’t have to divide people by nationality .. you minus .... Now, according to the article .. the beginning is certainly good, but as we usually do, everything can be ... standing in the bud so you need to appoint project curators reliable and worthy comrades ... plus article hi
      1. TEODOR
        TEODOR April 1 2014 14: 21
        +1
        Guys, after all, for this future, imagine a plane with a small nuclear engine that flies for years without refueling. Now it’s not only the aircraft industry, it’s about space exploration.
        1. baltika-18
          baltika-18 April 1 2014 16: 06
          +3
          Quote: TEODOR
          Guys, after all, behind this future, imagine a plane with a small nuclear engine
          And if it falls with an atomic engine, then?
          1. dmitrij.blyuz
            dmitrij.blyuz April 1 2014 16: 11
            +2
            Well, guys! Rummage around sites. And Bartini designed something similar. On paper only.
          2. TEODOR
            TEODOR April 1 2014 16: 17
            +1
            Quote: baltika-18
            Quote: TEODOR
            Guys, after all, behind this future, imagine a plane with a small nuclear engine
            And if it falls with an atomic engine, then?

            http://topwar.ru/1916-samolyot-s-atomnym-dvigatelem.html
            I think technology has since taken a step further. And many unthinkable problems in the 60s are quite technically feasible now.
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          4. Genry
            Genry April 1 2014 16: 18
            +1
            Quote: baltika-18
            And if it falls with an atomic engine, then?

            And attach a parachute directly to the reactor. Let him plan separately.
        2. jagdpanzer
          jagdpanzer April 1 2014 20: 17
          +1
          was already read the story, crashes and hello Chernobyl
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  2. Siberian19
    Siberian19 April 1 2014 12: 51
    +1
    Very positive! success in work! good
  3. domokl
    domokl April 1 2014 12: 52
    +4
    It’s a necessary and important thing. And it’s good that we don’t catch up, as usual, but go ahead ourselves. Let us catch up ...
  4. psychologist
    psychologist April 1 2014 12: 53
    +5
    in shock I think many !! the main thing is that this news does not become a shock for designers !!! wink
  5. bvi1965
    bvi1965 April 1 2014 12: 54
    +1
    In my opinion this is 1-april joke. On batteries you will not fly far. wassat
    1. buzuke
      buzuke April 1 2014 13: 38
      +3
      PES will lead to the exclusion of hydraulic and pneumatic power systems, will allow you to build an aircraft engine without a gearbox, which will result in a reduction in take-off weight, fuel economy

      no one says that the engines will run on electricity, read carefully
      1. Lissyara
        Lissyara April 1 2014 13: 52
        -3
        M-yes, I represent the plane with electric motors. smile Yeah, and IL-78 instead of "Flying Tanker" or "Cash Cow" will be called "Flying Battery" smile
      2. bvi1965
        bvi1965 April 1 2014 16: 25
        +1
        I mentioned to today's date
    2. FID
      FID April 1 2014 13: 51
      +6
      Quote: bvi1965
      In my opinion this is 1-april joke. On batteries you will not fly far.

      An-148 is a prototype of an electric aircraft, all controls are only + 27V, no variable! If the motors fail, the alternating voltage disappears, but controllability remains, even the autonomous steering drives work. The gears are reduced, which does not allow taking the plane to supercritical angles, but landing on the ground (airfield) is possible! Naturally, during normal flight, "electricity" is drawn from the converters, not from the batteries.
      1. dmitrij.blyuz
        dmitrij.blyuz April 1 2014 16: 24
        -1
        SSI! People far from runways will not understand the soul of an aviator! So, explain something to them, it's just time to lose!
        1. AlexxxNik
          AlexxxNik April 2 2014 07: 47
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          yes, in principle, everything is clear, the constant confuses, with its collectors and brushes and regular maintenance
    3. Des10
      Des10 April 1 2014 14: 25
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      Well, under each seat of an air passenger - to each air pedal for a generator! lol
      Want to fly - cool!
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    5. And Us Rat
      And Us Rat April 1 2014 21: 03
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      Quote: bvi1965
      In my opinion this is 1-april joke. On batteries you will not fly far. wassat

  6. PN
    PN April 1 2014 12: 56
    +1
    Damn, having read the name, I was quickly glad that it would be a plane with electric engines. And here we are talking about management, eh, a little bit wrong. Although the world has already created an airplane with electric motors and solar panels.
    1. scientist
      scientist April 1 2014 14: 25
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      I also thought that they were going to do a program to use alternative forms of nuclear or thermonuclear energy. And here it turns out they are going to just remove the hydraulics and mechanics. I don’t know if this makes sense, especially considering the high probability of lightning strikes and other reasons for surges.
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      2. siberalt
        siberalt April 1 2014 15: 08
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        Yeah, and what’s recharged from lightning laughing
        The article discusses the unification of drives.
  7. tchack
    tchack April 1 2014 12: 56
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    Somewhere I already saw it ... Tu-95LAL, Tu-119
  8. dmitrij.blyuz
    dmitrij.blyuz April 1 2014 13: 17
    -3
    Good news. But again, Manturov, Poghosyan and others like them! After all, the parasites will cut the idea!
  9. Gagarin
    Gagarin April 1 2014 13: 21
    +1
    Yes, the title of the article is slightly incorrect, I also rolled my lip.
    We wish you success!
  10. KononAV
    KononAV April 1 2014 13: 33
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    How can there be an airplane without a hydraulic system. Electric drives are very heavy. And what about landing gear cleaning systems, control systems, and much more.
    1. FID
      FID April 1 2014 13: 52
      +4
      Quote: KononAV
      How can there be an airplane without a hydraulic system. Electric drives are very heavy. And what about landing gear cleaning systems, control systems, and much more.

      You are a little wrong. Current electric drives are compact, reversible, etc. and not heavy ...
  11. Giant thought
    Giant thought April 1 2014 13: 47
    +1
    If this promises any benefits, then why not. Everything happens once for the first time. Need to try. Good luck.
  12. Samurai3X
    Samurai3X April 1 2014 13: 55
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    I already thought that we started creating a fundamentally new engine)
    Drooling ...
    Success is shorter. To make the plane Better / cheaper / more comfortable / more reliable than any Boeing Airbus, etc.
    PS I think that Sukhoi Design Bureau got into vain in vain ... Well, they don’t have much experience in this regard, so there is no such thing as SuperJet.
    1. Genry
      Genry April 1 2014 15: 26
      0
      Quote: Samurai3X
      therefore, SuperJet is no such

      Which one? More specific!
      SuperJet is now the most modern Russian aircraft, using all possible innovations available during design.
      Its only drawback is too small for the most popular aircraft in Russia. But "from small to great".
      1. FID
        FID April 1 2014 15: 31
        0
        Quote: Genry
        SuperJet is now the most modern Russian aircraft, using all possible innovations available during design.

        What is it like? When designing using all possible innovations, insufficient wing strength, redesign of the wing in a Russian company and, as a result, overweight of the aircraft by 3 tons (10% of the total weight) - is this all the most modern ???
        1. Genry
          Genry April 1 2014 15: 45
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          Quote: SSI
          3 ton aircraft overweight

          Well then, there was still “AeroComposite”. The wing, although black, is without vacuum infusion.
          1. FID
            FID April 1 2014 15: 50
            +1
            Quote: Genry
            The wing, although black, is without vacuum infusion.

            If you're talking about super, then he has a metal wing, they are going to put the composite on the MS-21 (Yak-242).
      2. dmitrij.blyuz
        dmitrij.blyuz April 1 2014 16: 01
        +1
        Superjet-Russian plane? Do not tell my hooves! wassat
        1. jagdpanzer
          jagdpanzer April 1 2014 20: 19
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          Well, a little bit of Russian in it laughing
  13. Ev58
    Ev58 April 1 2014 14: 00
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    I agree that the title of the article is inaccurate, but the idea of ​​removing all hydraulics and pneumatics from the board is not new. As always, in a blind pursuit of the "west", the initiators of such projects do not take into account very important points: 1) The SES is covered - no control systems are working - an expensive plane is there - in ... (to put it mildly). Hydraulics, mechanics are not a gift, of course, but they do not depend on the whims of the SES and its state. There is no impeccable quality of power supply, as well as there is no 100% guarantee (taking into account redundancy) of the SPP performance. 2) floating frequency of the power supply network, the upper limit of which is twice as high as the lower one. What does it mean? The requirements for the generator and SES as a whole are reduced and these problems are shifted onto the shoulders of BO developers. Not all that is gold that glitters in the notorious "west". And if you follow other people's tracks all the time, you will never become the first. You need to turn on your brains and apply your hands to promising domestic developments.
    1. FID
      FID April 1 2014 14: 13
      0
      I, above, already described the An-148 control system. 22 cars have already been produced at VASO; control systems are powered only with constant voltage (+18 - +33) V.
    2. Genry
      Genry April 1 2014 15: 37
      +1
      Hydraulics also require a pair of compressors and they can be useless due to a fluid leak in the system, as was the case with the AN-70 crash in Kiev, due to loss of control after a collision with an escort aircraft.
  14. johnsnz
    johnsnz April 1 2014 14: 05
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    About e / management is clear, a good start. And the engines ... can we put the reactor in there? Constructors, catch the idea fellow
  15. smart ass
    smart ass April 1 2014 14: 16
    +2
    Shove aha reactor and hand out lead briefs to all passengers
    1. johnsnz
      johnsnz April 1 2014 14: 26
      0
      Do you think they’re driving lead on submarines and submarines in shorts?
      1. schizophrenic
        schizophrenic April 1 2014 15: 23
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        Quote: johnsnz
        underwear drive

        If the designers can make acceptable reactor characteristics weight power and safety. Then you can think. Developments were, at the output of the characteristics are not very good. If military aircraft can still be tolerated, but in the passenger aircraft for a long time.
      2. smart ass
        smart ass April 2 2014 08: 27
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        Many countries will allow the flight of atomic aircraft over their land)))
  16. askort154
    askort154 April 1 2014 14: 22
    +1
    Yes, the title of the article in unison since April 1! Well done!
    If the conversation went about unusual experiments, I want to remind one of them:
    In 1988, a modification of the Tu-154, 2 pieces - Tu-155 and Tu-156, experimental versions with hydrogen and methane engines were created. After several flights, the experiments were stopped.
    1. FID
      FID April 1 2014 15: 21
      +1
      Quote: askort154
      2pcs - Tu-155 and Tu-156, experimental versions with hydrogen and methane engines. After several flights, the experiments were stopped.

      Hello Sasha! You should have seen what was going on in the ZhLiIDB when they refueled these planes! Still trembling over the body. I then very often (every day) I was in ZhLIIB (Tu-160 tested) ...
      1. askort154
        askort154 April 1 2014 15: 38
        +1
        [SSI .... Still trembling over the body.

        Greetings, Serge! Yes, it’s hard to understand the adherents of this experiment. A naked utopia,
        even the Brezhnev slogan: - "The economy must be economical."
        1. FID
          FID April 1 2014 15: 52
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          But hydrogen is the most energy-intensive fuel ... There were a lot of interesting and instructive in Zhukovsky, oh a lot!
          1. askort154
            askort154 April 1 2014 16: 13
            +1
            SSI ..... But hydrogen is the most energy-intensive fuel ...


            This is clear. But it’s difficult to get rid of the psychological self-hypnosis that: it’s safer to fly on a kerosene barrel than on a hydrogen and methane barrel. Therefore, these experiments were treated accordingly, with the confidence that this would not work.
            1. FID
              FID April 1 2014 16: 33
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              Yeah, firefighters from all over Zhukovsky gathered on concrete ...
              1. dmitrij.blyuz
                dmitrij.blyuz April 1 2014 16: 39
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                SSI! hi This is not about the time when the 155th flew?
  17. Vtel
    Vtel April 1 2014 14: 36
    0
    For drones, a good topic is silent.
  18. A1L9E4K9S
    A1L9E4K9S April 1 2014 14: 39
    +1
    Friends, the hackneyed phrase that everything is not being done for the better, but I have a question, how many articles will be refuted tomorrow, that these were April Fools' jokes.
    1. Genry
      Genry April 1 2014 16: 15
      0
      This is not the source but a reprint. In other publications has been a long time.
  19. dmitrij.blyuz
    dmitrij.blyuz April 1 2014 15: 12
    +1
    The Tu-155 flew with one hydrogen engine. If I’m not mistaken, right. But the "tank" was under hydrogen, Mom, don’t worry! He occupied half of the saloon. Therefore, he did not come out of the experimental one. Now the technologies are different. And the SSI said correctly.
  20. dmitrij.blyuz
    dmitrij.blyuz April 1 2014 15: 21
    +1
    Quote: dmitrij.blyuz
    Good news. But again, Manturov, Poghosyan and others like them! After all, the parasites will cut the idea!

    Minus members! What are your arguments?
    1. FID
      FID April 1 2014 15: 37
      +2
      Hello, Dima! I slightly removed the minuses, and as for the ministers and the KLA - you are right, if not for the sanctions ... For this alone I am grateful to the United States, you see - there will be its own aviation! I ask you not to consider me an anti-patriot, although I belong to Putin ... let's say not very.
      1. dmitrij.blyuz
        dmitrij.blyuz April 1 2014 15: 59
        +1
        SSI! hiHow to whom we relate is our business! Politics does not count here! I am really glad that you answered! Regarding the ministers, not many people understand what they have done and will do. They will figure it out if they want! Only when? Let the US impose sanctions. Maybe then we’ll raise our 204th, 334th, 214th to the wing. And many other things! Except for the Superjet. My opinion! hi
        1. FID
          FID April 1 2014 16: 06
          +1
          Quote: dmitrij.blyuz
          Except for the Superjet. My opinion!

          I fully join !!!
  21. zerkalov35
    zerkalov35 April 1 2014 15: 24
    +1
    I was much interested in this topic, the idea is 100% working ...
  22. dmitrij.blyuz
    dmitrij.blyuz April 1 2014 15: 39
    +1
    And it will turn out like with the NK-93. Get fucked up! When will our aircraft industry begin to rise? Or is it all in the government with Medvedev - oh? Dimon must be driven into the sands of Bessarabia for a long time! What is our Putin waiting for? Count of Tauride! Not for fun I'm proud of Putin!
  23. Oml
    Oml April 1 2014 17: 08
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    Will create by 2022? With the Olympics, now probably by 2032.