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“We all live in an aggressive environment for years”

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“We all live in an aggressive environment for years”“The current situation will only encourage import substitution, for the production in Russia of those components whose production we previously gave to our partners,” Alexander Fomin, director of the Federal Service for Military-Technical Cooperation, told the VIEW newspaper. So he reacted to the threat of sanctions against Russia, voiced by the West.


In Chile, one of the largest air shows in South America, FIDAE-2014, continues to operate, including the Russian exposition. Among the features of the exhibition are the fact that it was visited by two large Russian officials responsible for arms exports (this happens not too often): Alexander Fomin, director of the Federal Service for Military-Technical Cooperation (FSVTS), and the head of the Russian trade monopoly weapons Rosoboronexport Anatoly Isaikin. Whether this will lead to the conclusion of new contracts on this promising for the Russian arms market will be known some days ago. Alexander Fomin, director of FSMTC, told a newspaper THE VIEW OF a number of problems that Russia faces when selling weapons abroad.

VIEW: Alexander Vasilyevich, according to our data, FSMTC a couple of years ago noted an increase in the number of complaints from customers, including foreign ones, on the supplied Russian military equipment. In other words, there was a tendency for the quality of military products to deteriorate. Did you manage to overcome this?

Alexander Fomin: Quality problems really exist, and not only here. Our competitors - Western countries - suffer the same, and sometimes more. By the criterion of price / quality, we still, perhaps, ahead of the rest. I emphasize: we are far from the most poor-quality manufacturers.

VIEW: Still, let me clarify - the number of complaints is growing or falling?

A.F.: In some areas of our sales it is falling, in others the situation has stabilized significantly. It was decided to organize a modern quality management system.

VIEW: Has the revived military acceptance work?

A.F.: Including. The existing problems are primarily associated with previously concluded contracts for equipment released in small series or non-serial. Now there is an obvious tendency to correct this situation. Went a large series, which always contributes to improving the quality of the final product. In some areas of our industry, developers and manufacturers can no longer cope with the huge volume of orders. Especially it concerns air defense of practically all directions, helicopters. We need to think about expanding our production capabilities.

In addition, claims to quality were associated primarily with the so-called PKI, the purchased components in our final products. And they, as it is easy to guess, can have a very different source. I also remind you that we have a great cooperation, including with some CIS countries and far abroad. The customer wants to have on board our combat platform - it does not matter whether it is a tank or an aircraft - some kind of equipment from a third country, Western European or Asian. We fulfill this wish. And as a result, sometimes there are problems with quality, and, which is also not very pleasant, delays or even non-fulfillment of contractual obligations due to the fault of our counterparties.

VIEW: On the issue of counterparties - in this context it is impossible not to recall the threat of Western sanctions. Is this threat already perceived by the Russian defense industry? And how strong is the dependence of our defense industry on such contracts? After all, a number of contracts with foreign suppliers were concluded only due to the fact that the domestic industry did not meet the requirements of the military.

A.F.
: If you noticed, we all live in this aggressive environment for years. And Rosoboronexport organization non grata is announced several times a year. In many countries of the world, ships and aircraft that carry our property are arrested, stopped, inspected, not passed. Someone imagines himself a global gendarme, others help him in this. Where is democracy? For some, this is a style, even a lifestyle - to invent sanctions, criticize someone, write a fine to someone. Therefore, I can not say that the next sanctions for us news. The only thing I can note is: never, have we responded symmetrically to even one sanction in the field of arms supplies. No one. We still behave non-aggressively and are confident that reason will prevail, everything is formed.

VIEW: That is nothing critical?

A.F.: Of course, this does not add optimism. This puts Russia in the obviously acute conditions of maneuvering. There are also supplies on which Russian production depends. But I would not dramatize the situation. I think this will only spur on import substitution, for the production in Russia of those components, the production of which we previously gave to our partners.
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  1. hommer
    hommer 28 March 2014 21: 31
    +24
    The only thing I can note: we have never responded symmetrically to any sanction in the field of arms deliveries. To nobody.


    I think this time is already passing. It is necessary to answer. Both mirror and mirrorless. But smart.
    1. Vi_RUS
      Vi_RUS 28 March 2014 21: 38
      +7
      It is necessary to answer, but adequately, the main thing is not to bend the stick
      1. jjj
        jjj 28 March 2014 21: 53
        +12
        Now Avigdor Eskin on "Russia-1" quoted Obama's words yesterday: "Ukraine and Georgia will never join NATO."
        1. sniper
          sniper 28 March 2014 22: 05
          +21
          Quote: jjj
          "quoted yesterday Obama's words:" Ukraine and Georgia will never join NATO "
          Unfortunately, all Western politicians are masters of their word: wanted - gave a word, wanted - took it back ... so that his words do not say anything ... an empty chatter ...
          1. Penzyac
            Penzyac 28 March 2014 23: 46
            0
            Quote: sniper
            Quote: jjj
            "quoted yesterday Obama's words:" Ukraine and Georgia will never join NATO "
            Unfortunately, all Western politicians are masters of their word: wanted - gave a word, wanted - took it back ... so that his words do not say anything ... an empty chatter ...


            Yes and no, NATO will rather try to enter these countries (if there is enough stupidity and courage) than they will join NATO.
          2. mamont5
            mamont5 29 March 2014 06: 35
            0
            Quote: sniper
            Unfortunately, all Western politicians are masters of their word: wanted - gave a word, wanted - took it back ... so that his words do not say anything ... an empty chatter ...

            This is true, of course, but in this case, I do not think so.
            1. These countries have internal territorial problems.
            2. America needs extra problems in FIG.
            They are better off stirring water behind them.
        2. Grenz
          Grenz 28 March 2014 22: 05
          +12
          In the film "Wedding in Malinovka" to the words, like we are for a free Ukraine, a smart old man said: "So they will rob!"
          So in this case - the United States sleeps and sees how to crawl into these countries, then to break away from the accusations of Russia.
          They may not join NATO, but however, NATO has long been there.
          1. TEODOR
            TEODOR 28 March 2014 22: 24
            +7
            The Indos in the wrong time fussed with Ukrami to weaken Russia, which has recently "taken on a lot", oh, they would have given us another 3-4 years. The guys didn’t break off those guys.
            1. I read the news
              I read the news 28 March 2014 22: 49
              +2
              That's why they fussed, they feel that the end is already near.
            2. Penzyac
              Penzyac 28 March 2014 23: 53
              0
              Quote: TEODOR
              The Indos in the wrong time fussed with Ukrami to weaken Russia, which has recently "taken on a lot", oh, they would have given us another 3-4 years. The guys didn’t break off those guys.


              I don’t remember who, but he said well: “whoever takes on too much can lose everything.” 3,14the endos run the risk of overstraining (or running into).
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          3. vagabundo55
            vagabundo55 29 March 2014 01: 18
            0
            Moreover, NATO military experts and experienced mercenaries from hot spots (the latter according to official sources, there are more than 300 people) are actively training paramilitary ultra-right formations, which are about 25 thousand in Ukraine! In addition, the western borders of Ukraine and secret cargo flows from Zap.Ev-
            Rops are controlled by CIA agents. It is clear that these cargoes are intended for neo-Nazis.
            The United States has the highest hopes for the loss of Crimea, it is precisely these 25 thousand Nazis, the civil war and the split of the country. So the main challenges for Ukraine and Russia are ahead. Crimea is only the beginning ...
        3. Penzyac
          Penzyac 28 March 2014 23: 41
          0
          Quote: jjj
          Now Avigdor Eskin on "Russia-1" quoted Obama's words yesterday: "Ukraine and Georgia will never join NATO."


          And they hoped so.
          Bummer. laughing
        4. Vi_RUS
          Vi_RUS 29 March 2014 00: 01
          +1
          President of Ukraine gathered Darth Vader laughing

          link: http: //news.rambler.ru/24326876/
          1. Partizan
            Partizan 29 March 2014 00: 17
            0
            in company with V. Klitschko, Y. Tymoshenko, S. Tigipko - the clowning continues ...
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  2. konvalval
    konvalval 28 March 2014 21: 32
    +2
    Therefore, we are invincible.
  3. andrei332809
    andrei332809 28 March 2014 21: 32
    +9
    We have been living in aggressive environments all the years.

    and who had doubts? the struggle for loot. and the west is more sophisticated in this struggle (after all, it has been dealt with for several millennia).
    1. RND
      RND 28 March 2014 22: 04
      +6
      Quote: andrei332809
      We have been living in aggressive environments all the years.

      and who had doubts? the struggle for loot. and the west is more sophisticated in this struggle (after all, it has been dealt with for several millennia).

      And we are always on a cunning jo ... sorry, we found a screw nut. And, of course, right, import substitution should be stimulated, we will suffer less from malice. Yes, and in this case, the screw can be found for other applications, except to develop cunning nuts. Knock on the forehead especially zealous, for example ... am laughing
  4. Oleg Sobol
    Oleg Sobol 28 March 2014 21: 38
    +2
    By the criterion of price / quality, we are still, perhaps, ahead of the rest
    good
    Our competitors - Western countries - suffer the same, and sometimes more
    They are quality, we are the price ... Such a damn difference ... Well, yes we are not greedy, but smart bully
  5. JIaIIoTb
    JIaIIoTb 28 March 2014 21: 42
    +11
    Of course, not everything is so simple, but the introduction of the sale of energy for rubles will KILL all the thirst of Europe and the United States for life.
    But this is the Joker and should be opened when there is no other way out.
    1. matross
      matross 28 March 2014 22: 44
      +1
      Quote: JIaIIoTb
      But this is the Joker and should be opened when there is no other way out.

      Yes it’s not a joker. And not the last resort. And generally not a tool. It is a myth.
      WHERE will buyers take rubles for the purchase of resources? Buy in Russia, because nowhere else. On the MICEX. For dollars (for euros, Americans will not allow). Then pay with purchased rubles to Russia. After which we will sell them again on the same MICEX and buy dollars (well, or euros, no difference) - for import payments, replenishment of gold reserves, servicing external debt, etc.
      AND WHAT DIFFERENCE ???
      This is hello to us from Comrade De Gaulle - who understands. hi
      1. I read the news
        I read the news 28 March 2014 22: 52
        +5
        You give oil rubles to the end of the five-year period!
        And they sell rubles for gold and machine tools.
        1. matross
          matross 28 March 2014 23: 53
          +1
          Quote: I readNews
          And they sell rubles for gold and machine tools.

          A return to the gold standard is idealism. At least for now. And nobody will sell machines for rubles. Yes and no need. We need to build our own - this, in general, is more profitable.
      2. Patriot.ru.
        Patriot.ru. 28 March 2014 23: 05
        +1
        Rubles we will print.
        1. matross
          matross 29 March 2014 00: 18
          +3
          Quote: Patriot.ru.
          Rubles we will print

          We already print them if you are not in the know. And the United States - dollars. The issue is not to print - it is, rather, printing. Currency needs to be RELEASED. Those. provide real product, since the gold standard in the past. And very gradually, starting with the closest neighbors, switch to mutual settlements in national currencies, hoping to give them regional status at first. And that is not in all and not with all, but only with serious sustainable economies. And do not forget about the introduction of the national payment system (this is already, thank God, started to do).
          Announcing that we are selling gas for rubles tomorrow is pointless (see above). No one has stuttered this at the state level yet. Because they laugh, and not because of the intrigues of the liberals in power.
          It is widely believed that starting the sale of energy resources for rubles, we will bring down the dollar with the euro and the ruble will immediately take their place - ABSURD.
          1. Cheloveck
            Cheloveck 29 March 2014 03: 12
            0
            Quote: matRoss
            The issue is not to print - it is, rather, printing. Currency needs to be RELEASED. Those. provide real product, since the gold standard in the past.

            So, the ruble is much better off than the dollar, for which there is nothing but American ambition.
            1. matross
              matross 29 March 2014 13: 24
              0
              Quote: Cheloveck
              the ruble is much better off than the dollar, for which there is nothing but American ambition.

              Yes, many currencies are much better off the dollar, the ruble is no exception. But behind the dollar there are not only ambitions, but also the interests of multinational corporations, reinforced by the power of the strongest army in the world put at its service.
          2. JIaIIoTb
            JIaIIoTb 29 March 2014 07: 14
            0
            Quote: matRoss
            It is widely believed that starting the sale of energy resources for rubles, we will bring down the dollar with the euro and the ruble will immediately take their place - ABSURD.


            Why is the United States so afraid of this "absurdity"?
            It is clear that it is easier said than done. But the road will be overpowered by the walking one. I don’t want politics to affect the economy, in this context, it would be up to the United States to receive my salary tomorrow (primitive of course, but still, I'm not an economist).
            And I would suggest abandoning any currency issued in the USA, and only there.
            1. matross
              matross 29 March 2014 13: 30
              0
              Quote: JIaIIoTb
              going will overcome the road

              You're right. Walking, but not running. hi
              Quote: JIaIIoTb
              I would suggest abandoning any currency issued in the USA

              Do not remember, the USSR sold energy resources for what currency? And why? Well it is, "information for thought" (c)wink
      3. Cheloveck
        Cheloveck 29 March 2014 03: 09
        0
        Quote: matRoss
        Yes it’s not a joker. And not the last resort. And generally not a tool. This is a myth. WHERE will buyers take rubles to buy resources? Buy in Russia, because nowhere else. On the MICEX. For dollars (for euros, Americans will not allow). Then pay with purchased rubles to Russia. After which we will again sell them on the same MICEX and buy dollars (well, or euros, no difference) - for payments on imports, replenishment of gold reserves, servicing external debt, etc. And what's the difference ???

        Well, right away sheer pessimism .... laughing
        And if you consider such a scenario:
        We need rubles for someone - please, give a loan, buy in Russia anything you want from what Russia offers, and even pay interest!
        And interest is ready to take and gold, so be it! hi
        1. matross
          matross 29 March 2014 13: 38
          0
          Quote: Cheloveck
          We need rubles for someone - please, give a loan, buy in Russia anything you want from what Russia offers, and even pay interest!

          Cancel the conversion of the ruble ?! This is not a step back, this is a jump!
          Only Belarus can take loans in rubles "voluntarily" from us, it has nowhere to go wink
      4. JIaIIoTb
        JIaIIoTb 29 March 2014 06: 54
        0
        Quote: matRoss
        AND WHAT DIFFERENCE ???


        Do you have any idea?
        They will need a ruble.
        Who needs it now?
        1. matross
          matross 29 March 2014 13: 42
          0
          Quote: JIaIIoTb
          Do you have any idea?

          Not. From a rearrangement of terms, the sum does not change. The ruble will still remain an intermediate exchange currency. Until it takes the place (as we dream) of the world reserve.
    2. Penzyac
      Penzyac 28 March 2014 23: 59
      0
      Quote: JIaIIoTb
      Of course, not everything is so simple, but the introduction of the sale of energy for rubles will KILL all the thirst of Europe and the United States for life.
      But this is the Joker and should be opened when there is no other way out.


      Let them get ready for referenda ... laughing
      Why delay the inevitable? The sooner they vote, the earlier we will start to "revive".
  6. Mercenary
    Mercenary 28 March 2014 21: 44
    +10
    it’s enough for anglo-logics to watch in the teeth for a long time it’s time to load their industry to give people a decent salary, to revive factories, research centers.
  7. Vadim12
    Vadim12 28 March 2014 21: 46
    +11
    "We are still behaving non-aggressively and are confident that the mind will prevail, everything will work out." - nothing like this should be expected. As the Americans imagined themselves to be the world's gendarme, so it will be, as long as they do not knock on the horns. So our dry cargo ships, fishermen, etc. will slow down in the waters. It was impossible to imagine that a Soviet ship was stopped by some Senegal. Until you show POWER, international norms will be against you. And when you are strong, in "international law" immediately for Russia there will be exculpatory articles and reservations.
    1. sniper
      sniper 28 March 2014 22: 08
      +8
      Quote: Vadim12
      It was impossible to imagine that the Soviet ship was stopped by some Senegal.
      The Soviet Union had a Fleet, and Russia is just starting to create it ...
      1. I read the news
        I read the news 28 March 2014 22: 57
        +4
        Russia has rockets. Sinegal is aware that it is faster than the fleet?
        1. Viktor.N.Aleksandrov.
          Viktor.N.Aleksandrov. 28 March 2014 23: 10
          +3
          Missiles for some countries are something virtual. But when in the area of ​​direct visibility there is a large warship and something began to be uncovered on it - the impression is completely different.
          1. Corsair
            Corsair 29 March 2014 08: 06
            0
            Quote: Viktor.N.Aleksandrov.
            Missiles for some countries are something virtual. But when in the area of ​​direct visibility there is a large warship and something began to be uncovered on it - the impression is completely different.

            "Uncovering" for many is also not an argument without a logical continuation of this action.

            Only a DEAD BLOW and awareness of the possibility of its repetition in case of misunderstanding the first time can reason ...

            And believe me, the effect of launching the KR from a submarine or aircraft - a missile carrier somewhere hundreds of miles from the target will be no less than the presence of an impressive group of ships ...

            First WARNING , later START...
        2. Boa kaa
          Boa kaa 28 March 2014 23: 51
          +1
          Quote: I readNews
          Russia has rockets. Sinegal is aware that it is faster than the fleet?

          Yes, but they are not visible in the sea, and the fleet is right here, under the side, and at ease, 130mm Double Barrel the bow tower, turning it towards the "inspector", asks in pure RUSSIAN: "SKOKA-SKOKA ,,, SPEAK, HANG IN GRAMS, Eh !?"
          1. afdjhbn67
            afdjhbn67 29 March 2014 03: 30
            0
            Americans are beginning to make sure that this is a dead end suitable only for third world countries
  8. Tarpon
    Tarpon 28 March 2014 21: 47
    +7
    “We all live in an aggressive environment for years”

    The stronger the spring is compressed, the more it opens!
  9. ia-ai00
    ia-ai00 28 March 2014 21: 47
    +11
    After the collapse of the USSR, so many of their own enterprises were destroyed, including the military industry, for the joy of a / M / E / R / am and gayRope.
    As the saying goes, THERE IS NO HUNT WITHOUT GOOD, you see, and in time we WILL REACH and DRIVE if Honest people appear in the government, and a / M / E / Rovskiye khaluyev and embezzlers will be taken out of state administration.
  10. Signaller
    Signaller 28 March 2014 21: 51
    +7
    Yes, this is our "Achilles heel". ... Everything is just like that. They let go and forgot. In the 50s, such a system was UKN-Elimination of design flaws. After that, at least the tanks began to run and the service life of the motors, not 100 hours, but more than XNUMX, began to grow. So it is here. UKN must be entered. The equipment was expensive - it was not produced for one year of flights. It is necessary to develop technologies and increase the service life. A tank or an airplane lives for hours in a war. It's a peaceful time here. You have to count for years ..
  11. Giant thought
    Giant thought 28 March 2014 21: 54
    +10
    First of all, it is necessary to restore the system of vocational education so that the literate workers who are now studying in schools can create military-technical masterpieces in the future. Well, they must be paid the appropriate salary so that there are no thoughts to change their place of work. We must now think about the future.
  12. novobranets
    novobranets 28 March 2014 21: 55
    +6
    I think this will only spur import substitution, the production in Russia of those components, the production of which we previously gave to our partners.
    In other words, we put on your sanctions. tongue
  13. NDR-791
    NDR-791 28 March 2014 21: 57
    +2
    This puts Russia in deliberately acute maneuvering conditions. There are also such deliveries on which Russian production depends.
    Houses must be done, and not missed where it’s cheaper now. The electronic components for the aircraft, for the submarine are the same. But it’s cheaper for you to cut than to put such a plant here!
    Among the features of the exhibition is that it was visited immediately by two large Russian officials responsible for arms exports (this does not happen too often): Director of the Federal Service for Military-Technical Cooperation (FSVTS) Alexander Fomin and head of the Russian arms trade monopoly Rosoboronexport Anatoly Isaykin.
    Previously, one T. Beria or a telegram from the Moscow Kremlin to T. Ivanov was enough for this, and everything was decided ONCE!
    1. Boa kaa
      Boa kaa 29 March 2014 00: 17
      +2
      Quote: NDR-791
      The electronic components for the aircraft, for the submarine are the same. But to you

      it’s not known that these are different weapon systems.
      And if without a joke, then we could still agree with the assertion that the electronics for the aircraft and the satellites are the same, nevertheless the aerospace industry, but where on the plane you can install the g / a equipment rack with cascades of amplifiers along with a conformal antenna, I I personally do not presume to predict.
      1. Cheloveck
        Cheloveck 29 March 2014 03: 22
        0
        Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
        it’s not known that these are different weapons systems. And if without jokes, then one could still agree with the statement that the electronics for the aircraft and the satellite are the same, nevertheless the aerospace industry, but where on the plane there is a rack of g / a equipment with cascades amplifiers to install along with a conformal antenna, I personally do not presume to predict.

        No, everything is much simpler, no need to place a hydroacoustic rack on an airplane ... laughing
        The fact is that any electronics is built on a certain element base, which is the same for use in aviation and in the navy, and, by and large, in household appliances.
  14. VADEL
    VADEL 28 March 2014 22: 00
    +1
    This puts Russia in deliberately acute maneuvering conditions.

    Ships maneuvered, maneuvered, but not caught.
    Another dvoeshnik language blurts.
  15. Partizan
    Partizan 28 March 2014 22: 03
    +2
    Quote: hommer
    The only thing I can note: we have never responded symmetrically to any sanction in the field of arms deliveries. To nobody.


    I think this time is already passing. It is necessary to answer. Both mirror and mirrorless. But smart.

    Quote: Vi_RUS
    It is necessary to answer, but adequately, the main thing is not to bend the stick


    Yeah, that is, in your opinion, it is necessary to "answer" so that no one notices anything.
  16. darksoul
    darksoul 28 March 2014 22: 05
    +3
    “The current situation only spurs on import substitution, on the production in Russia of those components, the production of which we previously gave to our partners,”

    I completely agree, but let’s say even the national payment system and talk about paying for our goods in rubles ..... well, really it was necessary to finish when the cock pecks ... why couldn’t it be done before

    I am very glad that this is happening now, but it’s disgusting to watch when all these bankers are unanimously crucifying ........ you ... didn’t understand before that it could be so ... I had a technical background

    Conclusion, let's think about being ahead of time and not filling up gaps after a shell hits
  17. pensioner
    pensioner 28 March 2014 22: 12
    +3
    “We all live in an aggressive environment for years”

    Immediately I remembered the imperishable from V. Chernomyrdin: "My life passed in an atmosphere of oil and gas!" ...
  18. Goldmitro
    Goldmitro 28 March 2014 22: 20
    +1
    <<< "The current situation will only spur to import substitution, to the production in Russia of those components, the production of which we previously gave to our partners", >>>
    This is so ARCHIVAL for Russia and for a LONG time it should have been done that, one might say, only for the sake of such a development of events and retaliatory sanctions, Russia should do everything "in spite of" the West, because in the conditions of "partnership" our libesrals WILL NOT ALLOW to develop domestic production, but some "hot" heads were going to even switch to western technology - in "Iveks", "Leopards", you see, they are more comfortable than in our Tigers, T-90 "!
  19. horoh
    horoh 28 March 2014 22: 23
    0
    If we will produce all components for the Ministry of Defense, then this is very good !!!
  20. shatu
    shatu 28 March 2014 22: 39
    +1
    VIEW: Still, let me clarify - the number of complaints is growing or falling?

    A. F.: In some areas of our sales, it falls; in others, the situation significantly stabilized.

    I sometimes do not understand the language of officials.
    How to understand this phrase? On the one hand, the number of complaints falls (I understand that), and on the other - "stabilized" (don't understand it), is this in the sense of not very good or not very bad?
    1. I read the news
      I read the news 28 March 2014 23: 01
      0
      Maybe for example stable grow.
    2. ty60
      ty60 29 March 2014 00: 58
      0
      I’ll support you in this matter. I’ll clarify slightly — the number of complaints falls as a percentage of the total volume of products produced — or has it stabilized? That is, the percentage of defects is constant and unchanged?
  21. Grenz
    Grenz 28 March 2014 22: 43
    +3
    The only thing I can note: we have never responded symmetrically to any sanction in the field of arms deliveries. To nobody. We still behave non-aggressively and are confident that the mind will prevail, everything will form.

    I want to swear!
    How long will we build from ourselves DON QUIXOTES.
    This is so unseen - we did not behave aggressively. Did not answer symmetrically.
    Apparently for this against us 100 votes of the UN General Assembly in Ukraine. And if we, like the United States, would have promised our "partners" that we would leave them "without sweets," maybe the results were different.
    With white gloves, no problem can be solved in the world today. Only in boxing!
    1. not main
      not main 28 March 2014 23: 06
      +2
      Quote: grenz
      The only thing I can note: we have never responded symmetrically to any sanction in the field of arms deliveries. To nobody. We still behave non-aggressively and are confident that the mind will prevail, everything will form.

      I want to swear!
      How long will we build from ourselves DON QUIXOTES.
      This is so unseen - we did not behave aggressively. Did not answer symmetrically.
      Apparently for this against us 100 votes of the UN General Assembly in Ukraine. And if we, like the United States, would have promised our "partners" that we would leave them "without sweets," maybe the results were different.
      With white gloves, no problem can be solved in the world today. Only in boxing!

      In the modern world (yes, actually always), boxing gloves are used only against a knowingly weak opponent! And they speak the equivalent language of diplomacy! And on this front we are crushing them! Bow to Lavrov and Churkin that they do it on the brink of science fiction!
  22. v53993
    v53993 28 March 2014 22: 52
    +1
    Allegedly to the Russian moderator R. Continue to further defend p.i.d.o. We'll figure it out soon.
    1. v53993
      v53993 28 March 2014 23: 30
      +1
      By the way, the moderator, patron of P.id.ro.v why didn’t he close me with sanctions? Just right, if not a coward.
  23. VECHESLAVIAN
    VECHESLAVIAN 28 March 2014 22: 53
    +7
    Quote: JIaIIoTb
    Of course, not everything is so simple, but the introduction of the sale of energy for rubles will KILL all the thirst of Europe and the United States for life.
    But this is the Joker and should be opened when there is no other way out.

    The first one went: Bank Rossiya completely switched to ruble transactions, then, abandoning the dollar and the euro in all spheres of the economy.
    Bank "Russia" refused dollars and euros on March 28 at 20:13

    Text

    Bank "Russia" refused from dollars and euros

    And he decided to work in the domestic market.

    Bank Rossiya decided to work exclusively on the domestic Russian market and only with rubles, the organization's press service told Uralinformburo.

    "In order to protect the bank's clients from unfair actions of foreign financial institutions, JSB Rossiya made a decision to work exclusively on the domestic Russian market and only with one currency - the national currency of the Russian Federation - the ruble," the bank said in a statement.

    It is worth recalling that Bank Rossiya was included in the US Treasury's sanctions list. International payment systems Visa and MasterCard temporarily stopped carrying out payment transactions of the bank's clients.
    1. Ulairy
      Ulairy 28 March 2014 23: 00
      +2
      belay Wow ... simple, wow! ... Patriot bankers, that's something.
      1. 11111mail.ru
        11111mail.ru 29 March 2014 05: 02
        0
        Quote: Ulairy
        Patriot Bankers

        That's it, the formula is: banker minus patriot.
  24. kelevra
    kelevra 28 March 2014 22: 53
    +2
    The general situation is that sanctions against us and generally any changes in foreign policy lead to a completely satisfactory result, we begin to revive what has been lost or collapsed. Now the West will not interest us in some areas that we previously dealt with, but Thanks to the idiotic policies of the West and the EU, we will free ourselves from the Iga and there are a lot of purchases abroad.
    1. SHAKESPEARE
      SHAKESPEARE 28 March 2014 22: 58
      +1
      In theory, it should be so in fairness !!!
  25. Stinger
    Stinger 28 March 2014 22: 56
    0
    Will we continue to play nobility among the bandits?
  26. SHAKESPEARE
    SHAKESPEARE 28 March 2014 22: 57
    0
    Quote: grenz
    In the film "Wedding in Malinovka" to the words, like we are for a free Ukraine, a smart old man said: "So they will rob!"
    So in this case - the United States sleeps and sees how to crawl into these countries, then to break away from the accusations of Russia.
    They may not join NATO, but however, NATO has long been there.
  27. Ulairy
    Ulairy 28 March 2014 22: 57
    +3
    In addition, claims to quality were primarily associated with the so-called PKI - purchased components in our final products. And they, as you might guess, can have a very different source. Yeah, yeah, we make a chassis, put on it a cab, worked by someone who knows in a neighboring country (we will not poke a finger, which one), we put on the panel electronics, worked in another neighboring country by some incomprehensible cooperative (we will not poke back at anyone finger), write on the product "for woodlands and high humidity conditions, use AI-95", we sell the product to a completely non-neighboring country (I am silent about the "finger") ... She drives the product filled with solarium into the desert, where it safely stalls and withers away in 12 hours in the sun, they write to us a complaint: "Rusiks, what sucks!" The designers are cursing, the assemblers are spitting, the sales managers are scratching their heads - where and for how much now to drive this product.
    Doesn't it look like anything? The traditions of defense acceptance must be revived - in the Soviet Union they could have gotten to the bottom of 0,1% nickel in the alloy of a gear in a tank engine and hacked down an entire batch of engines for alteration, but ... quality! And now even professionals are not enough in the industry - yesterday's schoolchildren want to be ghostly "managers" (for the sale of vacuum cleaners), and not specialized specialists. Sad ...
  28. SHAKESPEARE
    SHAKESPEARE 28 March 2014 22: 59
    +3
    Quote: SHEKSPIR
    In theory, it should be so in fairness !!!
    1. Partizan
      Partizan 28 March 2014 23: 27
      0
      Well, where is the verse about the place where the Mississippi flows or the Grand Canyon spoils the area?
  29. Partizan
    Partizan 28 March 2014 23: 01
    +1
    Quote: Ulairy
    In addition, claims to quality were primarily associated with the so-called PKI - purchased components in our final products. And they, as you might guess, can have a very different source. Sure sure,...

    Very different sources: this is China, and this is China, but this is China ...
    1. Ulairy
      Ulairy 28 March 2014 23: 03
      0
      Well, they burned .. recourse ..I told you, we won’t poke a finger ... gee.
  30. Partizan
    Partizan 28 March 2014 23: 16
    +3
    Quote: Ulairy
    ... The traditions of defense acceptance must be revived - in the Soviet Union earlier they could get to the bottom of 0,1% nickel in the alloy of a gear in a tank engine and hack down an entire batch of engines for alteration, but ... quality! And now even professionals are not enough in the industry - yesterday's schoolchildren want to be ghostly "managers" (for the sale of vacuum cleaners), and not specialized specialists. Sad ...

    Yes, it’s not even about “yesterday’s schoolchildren” - well, it’s not profitable for the gentlemen from Rosoboronexport to lose Eurobucks (oh, I almost said - a penny) because of the “defense of acceptance”, because then it is necessary to return products for revision, reject lots, etc. etc., well, who cares, right?
    But it’s sad that for the same reason, such equipment is also being delivered to the Russian Armed Forces. In the face of the obvious wrecking of the country's defense ...
    1. Partizan
      Partizan 29 March 2014 00: 12
      +1
      oh, minus, is it really that the guardians for the gentlemen from the defense industry have stepped on a sore corn? Yes, their work is not easy in such an "aggressive environment" - packs of banknotes do not fit into their pockets.

      VIEW: Still, let me clarify - the number of complaints is growing or falling?
      A.F .: In some areas of our sales, it is falling, in others the situation has stabilized significantly. A decision was made to organize a modern quality management system.

      A good answer - but not "yes", here and not "no" ... erupted like a louse on a comb.
  31. shelva
    shelva 28 March 2014 23: 40
    +1
    Despite the minuses on this subject that I have been exposed to, I repeat - dependence on foreign components in the field of military production makes the security of our country vulnerable.
  32. Partizan
    Partizan 28 March 2014 23: 59
    0
    Quote: Ulairy
    belay Wow ... simple, wow! ... Patriot bankers, that's something.

    Which bankers? what patriots? everything that happens is authorized by the State Department.
    1. family tree
      family tree 29 March 2014 00: 49
      +1
      Quote: Partizan
      everything that happens is authorized by the State Department.

      Essno. The State Department has banned the Rossiya bank. The bank, in turn, with the sanction of the State Department, closed its correspondent accounts in American and other organizations, scattered its foreign currency accounts at other Russian banks, and itself decided to work only in the ruble zone, again with the approval of the State Department. Putin, again, with the approval of the State Department, opened an account with the Rossiya bank. Question. Who, with the sanction of the State Department, started having convulsions to quickly establish financial relations with Russian partners? laughing
  33. Partizan
    Partizan 29 March 2014 00: 23
    0
    Quote: ia-ai00
    ... if HONEST people appear in the government, and a / M / E / Rovskie khaluevs and embezzlers are taken out of government.

    What are your rainbow dreams ... but hopeless, unfortunately.
  34. polite people
    polite people 29 March 2014 00: 44
    0
    Yes, the whole country dreams of this, but what will the deputies say whose sticky hands will cease to be sticky due to the lack of kickbacks imported.
  35. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 29 March 2014 00: 58
    +1
    I hope it will be so soon ..))))
  36. DimDimych
    DimDimych 29 March 2014 01: 08
    0
    “The current situation will only spur import substitution, production
    in Russia of those components whose production we previously gave to our partners ”

    Everything is true, but one thing is surprising - why is Huge and Powerful Russia,
    with promising potential in all areasevery time waiting
    fried rooster that spur painfully pecking in the ass? ...
    Why not be ahead of the curve and thereby keep that cock out!

    I hope that the latest world events will force to radically revise
    all domestic economic policy. Now right direction selected.

    Today, as never before, it's time to adopt the experience of the past Decent years.
  37. tnship2
    tnship2 29 March 2014 03: 47
    +1
    Our media kind of languidly talk about the successes of the country and its leaders, but there is something to be said: What Putin did for Russia: • Over 12 years, Putin has increased Russia's budget 22 times, military spending 30 times, GDP 12 times (Russia jumped over from 36th place in the world in terms of GDP to 6th place) • Increased gold and foreign exchange reserves by 48 times! • Returned 256 mineral deposits to Russian jurisdiction • Broke down the most enslaving “liberal” production sharing agreements in history.
    • nationalized 65% of the oil industry and 95% of the gas and many other industries.
    • raised industry and agriculture (for 5 consecutive years Russia has been taking the 2nd-3rd place in the world in grain export, overtaking the United States, which is now in 4th place).
    • increased average salaries in the public sector by 18,5 times over 12 years, and average pensions by 14 times.
    • Well, just a trifle: Putin (he) reduced the extinction of Russia's population from 1,5 million people a year in 1999 to 21 thousand in 2011, i.e. 71,5 times.
    • In addition, Putin canceled the Khasavyurt agreement - by which he defended the integrity of Russia, made public the 5th column and forbade the deputies to have accounts abroad, defended Syria, stopped the war in Chechnya and RETURNED CRIMEA !!!!!
    1. 11111mail.ru
      11111mail.ru 29 March 2014 05: 10
      0
      Quote: tnship2
      and there is something to say: What Putin did

      Impressive fellow only why Serdyukov is not on the bunk? repeat
      1. Rohon
        Rohon 29 March 2014 07: 11
        0
        Because the 5th column was at least a little quieter, but still alive, her tail was pinched, growing a new one ... Now we need to step on her head and break the ridge.
  38. A1L9E4K9S
    A1L9E4K9S 29 March 2014 07: 30
    0
    Quote: 11111mail.ru
    Impressive, fellow just why Serdyukov is not on the bunk?


    Sincere repentance softened the punishment, the poor child was corrupted by women, it’s their fault. Serdyukov: Well, it’s by chance, well, jokingly lost the right track, I admit my guilt, measure, degree, depth and I ask you to send me on an excursion to prison, but preferably in July and preferably in the Crimea. So, here we are, how you steal a bag of wheat, you’ll get three years without looking, sleep .. you’ll get billions of dollars and you will receive an amnesty and a new feeder.
  39. staryivoin
    staryivoin 29 March 2014 07: 30
    0
    Quote: Thought Giant
    First of all, it is necessary to restore the system of vocational education so that the literate workers who are currently studying in schools can create military-technical masterpieces in the future


    Vocational education is, of course, good. But for example, Perm enterprises increasingly need workers with higher engineering education. But where to get such, when in most universities of RUSSIA, education becomes more and more paid.
    Perhaps it is necessary to create a system of advanced training for the best workers, to provide state guarantees for paying for school graduates, who will go to production after graduation.
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