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Washington and Riyadh half a step away from the "final solution" of the Syrian issue

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In recent days, the Syrian issue has again become acute. Hot discussions in American political circles, emotional speeches by participants in the Arab League Conference in Kuwait on March 25-26 are not a discussion of plans for a peaceful settlement of the Syrian conflict; This is the debate about which method of taking Damascus and overthrowing President Al-Assad will be most effective.

The situation in Syria for the armed opposition, gangs of international jihad and external sponsors of this whole “like-minded terrarium” has reached a dead end. Bashar Asad and his team were able to work out an effective tactic of confronting the rebels and jihadist interventions, which consists of grinding the opposition and jihadists on strategically important directions and attacking logistic hubs.

In fact, this is the tactic of the final stage of the Afghan campaign of the USSR, when not the establishment of control over every inch of land, but the reduction of the capabilities of the enemy to the level of an "acceptable terrorist threat" comes to the fore. Success is achieved by Damascus at the expense of superiority of government forces, Hezbollah units and Shiite volunteer brigades in combat training, support for heavy artillery troops and air superiority.

Serious victories of the Syrian army in the capture of Yabrud and the restoration of control over the Kalamonsky gorge do not mean the end of the war or even a strategic change in it, but they impede the anti-government forces, firstly, access to the Lebanese ports, and secondly, access to the Sunni enclave of Arsal in the Lebanese Bekaa Valley, which the rebels have turned into their base of support. The Lebanese Shiites and government troops now have a great opportunity to clear Arsal, which became the efforts of jihadists not only their rear base, but also a center for the production of drugs, smuggling weapons and people.

The military successes of Damascus really turned into a dead end for his opponents, as emotionally said at the summit in Kuwait, the Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia, Sheikh Salman bin Abdulaziz, who pathetically accused the whole world of “betraying the opposition” and turning it into “easy prey for a bloodthirsty dictator.” A way out of the impasse in Washington and Riyadh is seen in changing the military balance in favor of the rebels. The call to arm them with heavy weapons in order to negate the domination of government forces in the air and the superiority of the army in firepower, in fact, reduced the performance of the crown prince.

The political map of the Middle East is rapidly changing, and the question of Saudi hegemony in the region is not even a form of meeting the ambitions of the dynasty, but the problem of its survival. Having inclined partners, and not all of them, to the “punishment” of Qatar and thus securing its leadership in the Cooperation Council for the Arab States of the Persian Gulf (CCG), Riyadh needs serious and speedy foreign policy success. Taking Damascus for him - the most valuable prize, which will strengthen the position of the Saudis in the Arab world, and will allow to start to implement other plans - the creation of the Jordanian-Palestinian federation and the formation of the anti-Shiite League from the Arabian Peninsula to Pakistan.

This categorical Saudis in a dialogue with Obama and is due. The proposals that Washington makes to Riyadh - PersopRO, the rearmament program, supervision in the affairs of Palestine and the Maghreb, with all their financial attractiveness and political dividends, are not very happy with the royal dynasty, because they are defensive in nature and do not answer the main question for the Saudis: “How to stop the growing influence of Iran and the Shiite Awakening? ”

The aggressiveness of the Saudis, when a “small victorious war” is required for the survival of the dynasty, puts Obama in a very interesting position. On the one hand, almost 46 percent of Syrian chemical arsenals have now been eliminated, which makes the “Iraqi scenario” against Damascus impossible. Public opinion in the United States to the direct intervention in Syria is extremely negative; This is important before the November congressional elections, and the presidential race is just around the corner. On the other hand, the United States has invested about 2 billion dollars in the overthrow of Assad. The American neocons, who fiercely criticized Obama for indecision in the Syrian issue, after Crimea lost all restraint. Blackmail and the threat of sanctions against Russia did not work. Now, Syria is perceived by the Americans as a field of “revenge for the Crimea”, and the seizure of Damascus as an opportunity to deprive Moscow of all positions in the Middle East. The Saudi lobby, behind which stand the interests of the military-industrial complex and transnational corporations, is blackmailing the White House with the threat of a critical cooling of relations between Washington and the Saudi kingdom. And if Obama still somehow endures this blackmail, then for John Kerry with his presidential ambitions, these threats create a lot of problems for the future.

The United States is drawn into Syria much more than the White House would like. In addition to the two billion dollars in the export of democracy to Syria, there are four more directions of the undeclared war against Damascus, which Washington is waging under the guise of peaceful rhetoric.

First, the supply of small arms to anti-government forces with the knowledge of the US Congress.

Secondly, the financing of the rebels (total payments from January amounted to about 3 million dollars), their intensive training. Since the end of 2012, CIA operatives and instructors of US special operations forces have been training insurgents in camps in Jordan and Turkey. The training course includes the handling of heavy weapons, in particular with anti-tank complexes and MANPADS. These training camps produce up to several hundred insurgents per month, some of whom then conduct “instructor work” among militants in Syria.

Thirdly, the supply of “non-lethal assistance”, the volume of which is increasing (today it costs almost 80 million dollars monthly) and changes in quality. If at the beginning of 2013, “non-lethal assistance” mainly consisted of medicines and food rations, today its main part consists of communications equipment, night vision devices, engineering equipment and vehicles.

Fourthly, Washington's favorite tool for exporting democracy as sanctions. At present, the United States and its partners in the anti-Syrian coalition froze all foreign assets of Damascus, any investments in the supply of any equipment and any transactions with oil products of Syrian origin are prohibited in Syria. It is appropriate to add that these sanctions do not apply to territories captured by the rebels.

From the main decision - the provision of heavy weapons to the rebels and MANPADS, as well as the creation of a no-fly zone along the Turkish or Jordanian border, which will be the starting point for a new attack on Damascus - Washington is just half a step away.

The meeting of representatives of the Syrian opposition 6 in March in Istanbul's Wyndham Hotel ended in thirty minutes with a mutual assault, during which, as they say, Ahmed Jarba’s face in Kuwait’s Arab League summit touched the hands of the unification process. . According to Western intelligence sources, today around 70% of armed opposition groups "are unified and jointly oppose the Assad regime and the Islamists."

Obama's visit to Riyadh is scheduled for March 28-29. By the end of the week, apparently, it will become clear what path the opponents of al-Assad have chosen to "finalize" the Syrian issue.
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  1. darksoul
    darksoul 28 March 2014 18: 20
    +23
    With the brothers we’ll finish and we need to return to the Syrian issue, there is a hunch that the states will climb to Syria from their powerlessness
    1. baltika-18
      baltika-18 28 March 2014 18: 31
      +27
      Quote: darksoul
      We’ll finish with the brothers and we must return to the Syrian issue
      It seems that we’ll get bogged down with the brothers seriously and for a long time. And Obama’s visit to Riyadh: they will agree not only on Syria, but also on how they will bring Russia to the oil market. We’ll see what comes of it. There’s nowhere to go, they can gobble up his own, will play all-in. The Saudis are embittered by Russia last fall, so Obama can enlist their support. But they will require Obama to strengthen action in Syria. Let's see. The situation however.
      1. Russ69
        Russ69 28 March 2014 18: 49
        +11
        Quote: baltika-18
        .A visit of Obama to Riyadh: they will agree not only on Syria, but also on how they will bring Russia to the oil market

        Fell the price of oil, for the United States is very doubtful. The reason is simple, a fall in prices below 80-90 bucks will make oil production (like shale gas) in the United States unprofitable. And in this project billions are swelled. Now is not the 80s of the last century.
        Well, the fact that Syria, the United States will not be left just like that, is understandable. But I doubt that there will be a real military invasion ...
        1. baltika-18
          baltika-18 28 March 2014 19: 01
          +3
          Quote: Russ69
          Fell the price of oil, for the United States is very doubtful. The reason is simple, the price drop below 80-90 bucks
          Don’t tell. The budget of the Saudis is based on the price of $ 80, 80 Americans will also pull out, the profit is less, but not at a loss. We have budgeted oil at a price I don’t remember exactly 101-103 dollars. The whole question will be how much they will keep lowering in time and whether we have enough reserves. Well, unless of course they agree there to something.
          1. Russ69
            Russ69 28 March 2014 19: 19
            +3
            Quote: baltika-18
            Don’t tell. The budget of the Saudis is based on the price of $ 80, 80 Americans will also draw out, the profit is less, but not at a loss


            They have minimal profit at today's price, like in the region of 2-4 dollars, this is estimated by American experts. Moreover, the production of both oil and gas is subsidized by the government ...
            1. baltika-18
              baltika-18 28 March 2014 19: 57
              +1
              Quote: Russ69
              They have minimal profit at today's price, like in the region of 2-4 dollars, this is estimated by American experts. Moreover, the production of both oil and gas is subsidized by the government ...
              Here it seems to me that the matter of principle can play a role. They will increase debt by a trillion, take it on their own, they will not get used to it. There may be consequences for them, but they are much more distant on the time scale than for us. And this is bad.
              1. nokki
                nokki 28 March 2014 21: 30
                +3
                The Saudis in their blindness do not understand what they are getting into. When unknown submarines begin to sink their tankers, and some Saudi Liberation Army blow up their terminals and pipelines, then it will be too late. Russia has nowhere to retreat!
                1. And Us Rat
                  And Us Rat 29 March 2014 20: 19
                  -1
                  Quote: nokki
                  The Saudis in their blindness do not understand what they are getting into ... Russia has nowhere to retreat!

                  1. The borders of Russia are 3000km from Saudi Arabia and 2000km from Syria.

                  2. The Saudis, in principle, are not in a position to threaten Russia from a purely technical point of view, all the more so somewhere, from where it "retreat".

                  3. The threat of the Russian Federation from turmoil in Ukraine, I can understand, this is "on the doorstep", but the desire to get into a showdown, to put it mildly, "in someone else's monastery" (in YUSAvski) - to put it mildly irritate local residents, most of the BV Arabs dream that USA and RUSSIA Svili in the region are measured by pussy in another place, on the North Pole for example.

                  4. And about "nowhere to retreat" in the BV synopsis, you can simply answer - "you were not here (together with YUSAvtsy)."

                  5. I will disappoint you - but ordinary Syrians love you no more than Americans.
                  I will say more, they do not see the difference between you - for them you are all "west and infidels"

              2. Kurkin
                Kurkin 29 March 2014 11: 21
                0
                Ours are seriously thinking about refusing to pay in dollars in foreign and domestic trade. VTB Director spoke about this yesterday. It looks like the game has gone big!
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          3. Artyom
            Artyom 28 March 2014 23: 20
            0
            enough of our rules to trade our oil for unsecured greens. let them shake gold or rubles from the Euro-Gaitians, well, you can take the yuan angry
        2. Suhov
          Suhov 28 March 2014 19: 42
          +6
          Quote: Russ69
          Well, the fact that Syria, the United States will not be left just like that, is understandable.

          In Syria, the United States indirectly wage war against Russia and China.
          If we lose, Iran will follow Syria.
          And then all this chaos will flood into Russia and China.
          So Assad needs to be helped in everything except personal military intervention.
          Bashar al-Assad! Not one step back! Behind Moscow and Beijing!
        3. svetlomor
          svetlomor 28 March 2014 19: 53
          +1
          Well, the fact that Syria, the United States will not be left just like that, is understandable. But I doubt that there will be a real military invasion ...
          The Syrian army has been fighting for several years, the experience of street battles is higher than the roof, the land operation will drag on for a long time, I don’t think that Russia will not help with arms, again Iran will not give up.
        4. 120352
          120352 28 March 2014 23: 17
          0
          Russ69
          They already did that. We swelled everything that we had in the oil pipeline, and they lowered prices to the detriment of ourselves. There is no war without loss! We need to look for something other than oil, but rather, replacing oil, but much cheaper than it. And as far as I know, something has already been found in this search.
      2. 120352
        120352 28 March 2014 23: 12
        0
        Baltika-18
        If so, they will simply force us to finally resolve the issue of Riyadh. For this we have Kadyrov.
        And with Obama. But for this we need a specialist of the level that was required to resolve the issue with Bandera. Well, or at least with Trotsky. In general, Sudoplatov is needed. And he’ll figure it out.
    2. SRC P-15
      SRC P-15 28 March 2014 18: 34
      +7
      Quote: darksoul
      there is a hunch that the states from their powerlessness will now climb into Syria to recoup

      They will chase after two hares, they will not catch a single one (except for Senya Rabbit).
    3. CTEPX
      CTEPX 28 March 2014 18: 34
      +22
      Quote: darksoul
      need to return to the Syrian issue

      Yes, we must return .. to the question of creating a non-dollar financial center BRICS)).
      1. Gorinich
        Gorinich 28 March 2014 18: 45
        +4
        I would like to recall the words of Vanga: There will be no big war until Syria falls ... (I can not vouch for the accuracy of the words, but the meaning is this).
        1. Penzyac
          Penzyac 28 March 2014 19: 17
          +2
          Quote: Gorinich
          I would like to recall the words of Vanga: There will be no big war until Syria falls ... (I can not vouch for the accuracy of the words, but the meaning is this).


          So, Syria cannot be allowed to fall, it would be best to organize problems for the Saudis so that they would not be in Syria, the question is what and how.
          1. Native grandfather
            Native grandfather 28 March 2014 19: 49
            +5
            Quote: PENZYAC
            So, Syria cannot be allowed to fall, it would be best to organize problems for the Saudis so that they would not be in Syria, the question is what and how.

            The answer is Maidan. hi
        2. 120352
          120352 28 March 2014 23: 30
          0
          I also read these words. So you can’t give Syria! But spraying is also impossible. It is necessary to look for information approaches to simplify the task in Ukraine, to activate local opportunities. However, they have already begun to do something themselves, eat each other.
      2. Suhov
        Suhov 28 March 2014 20: 31
        +3
        Quote: ctepx
        Yes, we must return .. to the question of creating a non-dollar financial center BRICS)).

        And here are the first flowers:
        JSB Rossiya sent notifications to a number of American banks about the closure of correspondent accounts and decided to work only with the national currency.

        Berries ahead! hi
    4. Geisenberg
      Geisenberg 28 March 2014 18: 49
      +5
      Quote: darksoul
      With the brothers we’ll finish and we need to return to the Syrian issue, there is a hunch that the states will climb to Syria from their powerlessness


      Well, why will we "finish" them so soon, we will rather "punish" them.

      Purely my opinion already needs to be deployed, as it were, by the air defense and marines brigade in Tartus. The question of aggression against Syria will immediately cease to be relevant. The Israeli air support of the terrorists in Syria will also end ... you never know where the splinter from the bomb falls ...
      1. Viktor.N.Aleksandrov.
        Viktor.N.Aleksandrov. 28 March 2014 21: 28
        +2
        It would be nice to say that in connection with the imposition of sanctions against Russia, we intend to fulfill our agreement on the supply of S-300 anti-aircraft missile systems to Iran, and it would not be harmful to build a route for our strategic aviation near Saudi Arabia. "white swans" - they are so beautiful! Let them admire ...
    5. tilovaykrisa
      tilovaykrisa 28 March 2014 18: 57
      +4
      Situevina is interesting, the United States is most likely ready to exchange Syria for half of the country and the situation is aggravating, because if they rock it, then nothing will stop GDP from joining the southeast of Ukraine to the Russian Federation, and this is slowly but surely and so it is understood in Vashobkom, from they also want to win at least one in the form of Syria in this losing situation. It is necessary to support Iran and complete the delivery of the planned air defense systems to the Syrians ahead of schedule, and give our fleet a command to prevent the creation of a no-fly zone by any means, let them do everything in their power, then Assad will not overthrow them, Iran will not stand aside, and I think China too.
    6. Penzyac
      Penzyac 28 March 2014 19: 08
      +3
      Quote: darksoul
      With the brothers we’ll finish and we need to return to the Syrian issue, there is a hunch that the states will climb to Syria from their powerlessness


      They will have to deal with the brothers and the Syrian issue in parallel, deal with one issue, and then return to the second will fail, will not give.
      1. Native grandfather
        Native grandfather 28 March 2014 19: 58
        +2
        Quote: PENZYAC
        They will have to deal with the brothers and the Syrian issue in parallel, deal with one issue, and then return to the second will fail, will not give.

        I think that everything can be solved peacefully and much more prosaic. It is not necessary to bind in Syria and Ukraine, but only to punish the hero of this triumph. Arrange default on the dollar. Then Amer will have no time for foreign policy. In this case, they will not even have their own army. Then they will feel in their own skin all the charms of the Maidan.
        1. tilovaykrisa
          tilovaykrisa 28 March 2014 20: 39
          0
          A cornered mouse also bites that these crazy folks will be thrown then ??? Look who !!! they have the main advisers in the Russian Federation and what !!! they advise, before throwing the Yankees it is necessary to think over everything and coat with China and a couple of countries such as India, even if while the buck itself is bent slowly and we will just get ready for this time.
        2. 120352
          120352 28 March 2014 23: 42
          0
          Grandfather Native
          I have already proposed repeatedly activating hackers for this, in order to reset all state bank accounts, then there’s nothing they can fight for. In addition, get into the brains of missiles and make sure that they re-aim at the starting point. Two days - the war is over. The second is needed to sign an agreement on peace, eternal friendship and love, as well as an urgent request for the inclusion of their territory in Russia.
  2. Sergg
    Sergg 28 March 2014 18: 26
    +12
    With Ukraine, the situation is extremely far from being resolved, it seems that the United States is using the situation in Ukraine, since Russia is firmly tied to it in order to prepare quietly for the invasion of Syria. Knowing the cynicism and treachery of Washington, it is quite possible that this is so.
    1. lord
      lord 28 March 2014 18: 33
      +2
      that is, I would have in place of a siege a couple of barrels or a dozen shells in stock with chemical filling so just in case
  3. serega.fedotov
    serega.fedotov 28 March 2014 18: 28
    +4
    There are many Christians and Russian citizens living in Syria! And the beaches of the Mediterranean Sea are worse than Crimean ones!
  4. delfinN
    delfinN 28 March 2014 18: 31
    +5
    what the Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia Sheikh Salman bin Abdulaziz spoke emotionally of at the summit in Kuwait,
  5. saag
    saag 28 March 2014 18: 35
    +7
    They will play to lower oil prices, as a countermeasure, Russia, for example, can switch to settlements in national currencies with China, or even just announce a similar step, for forex this will be enough
    1. Hitrovan07
      Hitrovan07 28 March 2014 21: 36
      0
      and you can also play with "polite people" in the pioneer fire - all the same, supposedly Gavar is depleted, so why not help the Saudis to quickly end the agony of this deposit wink
  6. Name
    Name 28 March 2014 18: 35
    +3
    There is an Internet suggestion that Obama will ask Saudi Arabia to lower oil prices, which will cause a serious blow to the Russian economy ...
  7. kelevra
    kelevra 28 March 2014 18: 35
    +2
    The United States simply wants to avenge its humiliation on the Ukrainian issue. And perhaps Ukraine was an excuse to spoil relations with Russia and still squeeze Syria as they initially wanted. We saved the US face in a resolution on Syria last year.
  8. ZU-23
    ZU-23 28 March 2014 18: 37
    +6
    Assad handsome fastens, and adversaries still can’t find where to fight them, and Russia, a generous and kind soul, breaks all plans around them with virtually no interference laughing
    1. Hitrovan07
      Hitrovan07 28 March 2014 21: 38
      0
      It is time for Assad to go on the offensive - why are various bastards funding the overthrow of state power in a blatant and impudent manner?
  9. made13
    made13 28 March 2014 18: 42
    +10
    The issue must not be resolved in Syria, but in the states and in Saudi Arabia. That domestic problems would distract from other regions.
    1. Penzyac
      Penzyac 28 March 2014 19: 27
      +1
      Quote: made13
      The issue must not be resolved in Syria, but in the states and in Saudi Arabia. That domestic problems would distract from other regions.


      Moreover, the problems must be of such a nature that they cannot be solved or, at least, even weakened with the help of a "small victorious war."
  10. ya.seliwerstov2013
    ya.seliwerstov2013 28 March 2014 18: 45
    +1
    Quote: ZU-23
    Assad handsome fastens, and adversaries still can’t find where to fight them, and Russia, a generous and kind soul, breaks all plans around them with virtually no interference laughing
    So, Our agent is with them for the Chief. But seriously, another phase has come in world history and America, like everyone just needs to deal with it. RUSSIA NIGHT IS ROLLING AND ONLY GETTING SPEEDS !!!!!
  11. vladimirvn
    vladimirvn 28 March 2014 18: 47
    +8
    We need success in the financial front. It is here that we must try to deliver the most sensitive blows to US hegemony in the world. Here is the task, tasks. Then on the political and military fronts everything will work out.
  12. darksoul
    darksoul 28 March 2014 18: 49
    +4
    Quote: baltika-18
    It seems that we’ll get bogged down with the brothers seriously and for a long time. And Obama’s visit to Riyadh: they will agree not only on Syria, but also on how they will bring Russia to the oil market. We’ll see what comes of it. There’s nowhere to go, they can gobble up his own, will play all-in. Saudis are embittered by Russia over the fall of last year, so Obama can enlist their support. But they will require Obama to step up action in Syria. Let's see. The situation however


    Saudis with Qatar need to pit .... foreign policy .. stop sitting at home when behind the fence coven
    1. 120352
      120352 28 March 2014 23: 57
      0
      I'm afraid it will not be easy. They are brothers by religion.
  13. Signaller
    Signaller 28 March 2014 18: 50
    +6
    Actually, of course, everything is serious, but apparently someone wants to get on the hill. I think we will help them run into a fist. After all, they themselves beg. Well, how not to help ????
    1. dude_not_in_theme
      dude_not_in_theme 28 March 2014 19: 33
      +1
      I really hope that Vovka will not leave Bashar to be torn to pieces by these filthy jackals! need to help him, otherwise this whole autumn victory will be down the drain ...
  14. alex47russ
    alex47russ 28 March 2014 18: 52
    +1
    DO NOT BE AFRAID OF YANKS !!!
  15. darksoul
    darksoul 28 March 2014 18: 53
    +3
    Quote: Geisenberg
    Purely my opinion already needs to be deployed, as it were, by the air defense and marines brigade in Tartus. The question of aggression against Syria will immediately cease to be relevant. The Israeli air support of the terrorists in Syria will also end ... you never know where the splinter from the bomb falls ...



    I completely agree, I wrote about this already ... how much wrinkling is possible already with 300 in Iran and Syria and the question is closed.

    Such a question, how many oil Saudis have? so small and shake and shake, annoy the bloodsuckers
    1. DeOS78RU
      DeOS78RU 28 March 2014 20: 16
      0
      hmmm ... must be sent to Syria s-300 for disposal ... let it be disposed of by the rebels ... until it is completely worn out)))
  16. Thomas
    Thomas 28 March 2014 18: 56
    +1
    Today on the site there was information about the resolved issue of deliveries of C-400 to China, so Syria should become the next customer. Or at least C-300.
    1. vadson
      vadson 28 March 2014 19: 42
      +3
      she must be the first
  17. Gagarin
    Gagarin 28 March 2014 18: 58
    +8
    NEEDS OPERATION WITH CHINA FILL UP DOLLAR!
    Everything else will collapse itself, otherwise eternal confrontation.
    The dollar is KASCHAYA NEEDLE!
    1. matross
      matross 28 March 2014 20: 11
      +3
      Quote: Gagarin
      NEEDS OPERATION WITH CHINA FILL UP DOLLAR!

      China is playing its game. That is the problem. He is not our ally, only a temporary companion. And the real transformation of Russia into a superpower of the scale of the USSR is NOT beneficial for him !!! And the Chinese do not care about our Wishlist. It is more profitable for them to hold Amers by their eggs in gigantic debt than to turn these debts into pleasant memories.
      In general, anyone who thinks that after the "blockage" of the dollar will come paradise on earth is mistaken. It is possible to fill up the dollar and Russia alone. And the euro is possible. You can't just yuan ...
  18. Ulairy
    Ulairy 28 March 2014 19: 11
    +3
    the capture of Damascus - as an opportunity to strip Moscow of all positions in the Middle East.
    Quote: darksoul
    states from their powerlessness will now climb into Syria to recoup

    Prepare more coffins and striped flags for them, darlings ... With such a low "pain threshold for the people" as in the United States, the invasion of Syria is akin to the suicide of the entire White House. Their own people will not understand where again and for what need they are sending their children.
    1. Native grandfather
      Native grandfather 28 March 2014 20: 10
      +3
      Quote: Ulairy
      Prepare more coffins and striped flags for them, darlings ...

      Of course, I knew for a long time that "Americans are stupid" (M. Zadornov). But now one more feature has reached me. Their "star-striped" has a direct association with coffins. A good use of the great power symbol. USA flag = coffin cloth. That's where they go.
  19. individual
    individual 28 March 2014 19: 11
    +1
    It seems that the world is falling into such a crisis that everyone needs a small victorious war.
    There is a cold war and a weak link.
    The search for a whipping boy will lead to the 3rd World extermination of civilization and the emergence of the mysteries of the new Atlantis.
  20. buzer
    buzer 28 March 2014 19: 18
    +1
    Neither the Saudis nor the Americans will fight in Syria. As always, throw a bunch of bucks into hiring and arming some thread of bearded Islam soldiers and send them to Syria. That's all they can do. And the bombing will not help. Syria is not Yugoslavia. The Syrians are already used to the war. Without infantry, they will not take Syria. But the Saudis or the Americans will not send their infantry there. Fall asleep !!!
    1. Russ69
      Russ69 28 March 2014 19: 22
      +5
      Quote: buzer
      Neither the Saudis nor the Americans will fight in Syria.

      Americans can still with the help of aviation. But the Saudis can easily lose their oil revenues. Too good a target, all these oil complexes.
  21. Ulairy
    Ulairy 28 March 2014 19: 24
    +1
    Quote: buzer
    But the Saudis or the Americans will not send their infantry there. Fall asleep !!!

    Even if you don't "piss", with such a mood it is more expensive to fight: "Obama, I will not launch a fight against al-Qaeda rebels in Syria. People, wake up!"
  22. aud13
    aud13 28 March 2014 19: 32
    +1
    In this region, not only Russia interferes with the Saudis and Amers.
    The interests of Iran and Iraq are also seriously affected there. Therefore, it is necessary to create a coalition against US plans with the Saudis. Not all of us pull one strap.
    Well, by the way, if there is oil and other minerals in Syria, why not offer to pay part of the costs to the Syrians by bartering supplies of oil and other goods?
  23. promt26
    promt26 28 March 2014 19: 33
    0
    Assad stayed well done, but it has long been clear that he will not retain power. It's a question of time. We are losing a true ally in that region. The supply of weapons is important, but not a guarantee of stability. The country's economy is destroyed almost to zero. In such positions, it is increasingly difficult to control the territory of the country. It is possible that supporters will have to go underground. However ... as soon as we lose Syria, this will be the beginning of the end of the Indo. owls So say knowledgeable people!
  24. fly fishing
    fly fishing 28 March 2014 19: 42
    +2
    In the 19th century, students learned French - heaped on Napoleon, reached Paris!
    At 20 - they studied German - heaped on Hitler, reached Berlin!
    Now everyone is learning English - in vain Americans climb to us ... Oh, in sight ...
  25. s1н7т
    s1н7т 28 March 2014 19: 49
    +2
    About a week ago, I assumed Syria was a bargaining chip. Because the S-300 would have solved the issue by 50%, "polite people" - the remaining 50%. But - no. For us - Crimea and something else from the former native USSR, and for them - the Middle East. It's sad.
    1. lord
      lord 28 March 2014 20: 19
      +2
      I think somehow it was easy with the Crimea, the Americans lost, and just because they don’t create positions, Syria is a bargaining option
  26. kvnvolga2008
    kvnvolga2008 28 March 2014 20: 16
    +1
    This black macaque pokes its nose everywhere!
  27. typhoon7
    typhoon7 28 March 2014 20: 22
    +1
    Quote: Gagarin
    NEEDS OPERATION WITH CHINA FILL UP DOLLAR!
    Everything else will collapse itself, otherwise eternal confrontation.
    The dollar is KASCHAYA NEEDLE!

    I think that Moscow and Beijing are already working on this.
  28. kirieeleyson
    kirieeleyson 28 March 2014 20: 32
    +2
    Not so long ago, Tehran announced the introduction of an embargo on oil and gas supplies to all 27 EU member states.
    Earlier, the United States lifted the embargo on Iranian oil for Japan and ten EU countries, thereby trying to collapse oil prices to the detriment of Russia
    In this regard, US Secretary of State John Kerry pointed out that despite the lifting of the embargo, the United States does not intend to abandon economic sanctions. Pressure on Tehran will continue due to concerns about its nuclear program, Kerry said.
    However, Tehran, for its part, announced the imposition of an embargo on oil and gas supplies to all 27 EU member states, explaining its decision by the hostile policies of these states towards Iran.
    http://ruposters.ru/archives/3540

    On the Syrian issue, it would be right for us, as Iran's partners in various agreements of a strategic nature, to take a "courtesy" step and resume deliveries of S-300 systems with enhanced capabilities in order to kill several birds with one stone.
    It will also be a political gambit for Obama and the hawks from the United States; they will face the failure of many strategic military initiatives in the "clear sky" of the Persian Gulf, unclear plans for the further development of the Middle East, and the disruption of the doctrine of expanding influence in the APR.
    If the US leaves the SA in its aspirations, it will be the loss of the oil whip.
    as they say ... "everything that is acquired by back-breaking labor ..." bully
  29. Max_Kokyhin
    Max_Kokyhin 28 March 2014 20: 35
    +1
    Poor Syrian people !!!!!!!!!! These are already in everyone's throats !!! And there is only one person who sends the "great USA" on! This is our president! And our country is with him. And they get epilepsy from this. It is necessary to support Syria by all means, because if it falls, then about 150 thousand militants will be left without work. But they do not know how to sow and plow. Who's new? Interest Ask! We need concrete measures!
    1. s1н7т
      s1н7т 29 March 2014 19: 13
      0
      Quote: Max_Kokyhin
      And there is only one person who sends the "great USA" on! This is our president!

      Are you from Venezuela? As far as I know, Chavez really sent. But, alas, he died. And our Putin has not sent anyone yet. However, maybe this is for the better - the Russian Federation is not for you the USSR.
  30. aksakal
    aksakal 28 March 2014 21: 00
    +1
    Quote: baltika-18
    Here it seems to me that the matter of principle can play a role. They will increase debt by a trillion, take it on their own, they will not get used to it. There may be consequences for them, but they are much more distant on the time scale than for us. And this is bad.

    - I once read a story about a witch who quarreled with a mischievous neighbor and decided to punish her specifically, conjuring her heavy troubles. That witch took the mirror and let’s guess: "If you conjure misfortune with her husband, how bad will it be for her? And if with her son?" And the mirror, in any case, gave a forecast for the improvement of the life of this harm laughing All night long that witch thought and dressed, did not think of anything and then understood and even regretted: "But who has bewitched you and why so? Poor woman!"
    Here and there - Russia (and all of us, post-Soviet states, together with Russia) was driven back in the early 90s into such an ass that it simply couldn't be worse, and Russia still hasn't come out of there, it just has adapted to live there completely tolerable level. So whatever America and the allies do now against Russia - all this, as in that story, will only benefit Russia. Canadians break off with the Bombardier assembly? Germans with a BMW assembly? Do Americans promise gas to Europe? Or are you going to drop oil prices? Well, against the backdrop of a strong patriotic upsurge in Russia and an ardent desire to revive the former industrial power, when even Russian oligarchs began to "move in" that they would only be rich in Russia and therefore should we not think about investing in Russia ?, all these measures, all these sanctions paradoxically push Russia to do what Russia has long wanted, but did not dare to do in practice. Get off the oil drug, create your own payment and other systems, revive the aviation and space industries and all other steps - whatever the Americans think of, you will have to say thank you later to America. laughing Yes, by the way, if you drop the price of oil - China is growing well on cheap oil. Another question is what is best for the Americans - a weakened Russia (in addition to the fact that the weakening of Russia from cheap oil, in my opinion, is in great doubt, it would not have turned out the other way around laughing ) or sharply strengthened China? And the second question - the Americans printed so many dollars that only expensive oil would save this piece of paper from hyperinflation - all these printed empty pieces of paper are busy with rotation in the oil sphere. A 20% drop in oil will free up 20% of the available green empty mass and in full growth the Americans will face the question of buying up this mass and hastily disposing of it. Thirdly, it is possible to drop oil prices only in alliance with Iran, a very large oil producer, and this will require not only improved relations with Iran, but even the complete lifting of sanctions from this state, and how much this will please the mighty state of Israel, which the United States fears like fire - also that question. It would also be that the States would not have to agree with Venezuela to ensure the oil mass necessary for a noticeable fall. And all this for the sake of Ukraine, which the States do not really need? Let me doubt the validity of your fears
  31. saag
    saag 28 March 2014 21: 11
    0
    If Americans and Saudis agree to increase oil production, I can roughly imagine Russia's actions, so the oil price went down, Russia puts up for sale a lot of US Treasury bonds, maybe a billion, maybe 10, the dollar gets cheaper, the price of oil creeping up :-) At one time, Soros raised 10 billion money in his Quantum fund and put up for sale 1 billion British pounds, i.e. opened a position for a fall, the pound flew down so fast, it can be said steeply, respectively, at a certain point the position was closed and Soros had a good profit, it was logical to assume that he again opened a position for increase and when the pound rose again he made a profit, and so the economy England was not at all cool at that moment
  32. sv68
    sv68 28 March 2014 21: 11
    0
    RUSSIA CAN DO EVERYTHING FOR SYRISES TO HELP WEAPONS FIRST. SAUDI ARABIA LETS BETTER WITH QATAR DISCUSSED. DON'T PICK YOUR OWN VANUEL
  33. rassel0889
    rassel0889 28 March 2014 21: 24
    +1
    If the United States introduces an unmanned zone and equips the rebels with heavy weapons, then put Assad S-300 or even S-400, what should we lose? Russia has now challenged the west, and we need to show am that we are not leaving our own anywhere!
  34. Andron_by
    Andron_by 28 March 2014 21: 29
    0
    The West needs to find a way to harm Putin without harming America. And there is such a way. It is necessary to convince Saudi Arabia to do all the dirty work for the West.
    It’s up to the small things - the United States’s consent to all other forms of assistance to the Syrian rebels, in particular to the supply of heavy weapons and anti-aircraft missile systems, which will negate the superiority of Syrian government forces in firepower and air supremacy, that is, will change the military balance in favor of the "armed opposition." Well, and then - everything according to the pattern, which has already been repeatedly worked out at all kinds of meetings: creating a no-fly zone near the Turkish or Jordanian border, turning this zone into a stronghold of militants, "pumping" weapons there, and a march to Damascus.
    With the fall of Syria, Iran will be forced to go over to strategic defense, and Riyadh will be quite satisfied with this, since the "international community" will always have more than enough reasons to tighten the blockade around Tehran. For the possession of such a prize, Riyadh is willing to pay “on demand”. Fifteen billion so necessary for Obama to support "young Ukrainian diplomacy"? Temporary financial costs of participating in a war to lower prices? Riyadh will “recapture” this money a little later, using the isolation of Tehran and Russia.
    Such a bitch has already taken place in history: enraged by the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan in 1979, the Saudis opened oil valves, which led in the mid-1980s to lower world oil prices to $ 20 per barrel (in current prices). Today, a much smaller decrease is enough - from the current 107 dollars per barrel to somewhere below 90 dollars - and Russia will suffer huge financial and economic damage. The American president has every chance to turn his trip to the Kingdom into one of the largest successes of American diplomacy in the Middle East after a series of failures, to take revenge for the Crimea. The blood that will inevitably be shed as a result of this deal is attributed to the “costs of establishing democracy."
    And how it is all familiar, how it is not the first time ...
  35. G8K
    G8K 28 March 2014 21: 30
    0
    Obama is freaking out, in his desire to punish Russia for humiliation with Ukraine, he can go on rash acts. To the detriment of America, just to spoil us. The question is what the mind is enough for, and with this Obama is tense and his advisers are stupid!
  36. polkovnik manuch
    polkovnik manuch 28 March 2014 21: 32
    0
    S-300 to Syria is good, only you, dear, have forgotten that Israel with the capabilities of its aircraft will not like it very much. That is, the conflict will expand, at least there will be a real opportunity for the USA, Saudis, Israel to supply heavy weapons to mercenaries . Assad should ask the GDP for something more serious and first of all it would be wise to rent Tartus to Russia on favorable terms, at least for 30 years, it needs to be done quickly and quietly.
  37. fregina1
    fregina1 28 March 2014 21: 47
    +1
    I liked the option of sinking tankers by unknown submarines! And it is not known where the soared sea mines (it would be cool if even Western production) in the Strait of Hormuz! And at the same time, our rejection of the dollar! We sell oil and gas for rubles !!! S-300 to Syria and Iran! (to repair the complexes captured in Ukraine and forward). If Turkey will climb, help finance the Kurds! In short, the policy is over, begins a BIG SHUHER!
  38. zmeigavrila
    zmeigavrila 28 March 2014 21: 55
    0
    A friend told me that 10 years ago, in official institutions in Qatar, containers for collecting donations for Chechen terrorists were quite open.
  39. Goldmitro
    Goldmitro 28 March 2014 21: 55
    0
    Quote: Russ69
    But I doubt that there will be a real military invasion ...

    The Washington hawks have itching hands, they need a decisive successful operation to avenge Russia for the Crimea. They can, for example, push through some resolution in the UN (or maybe without it, it’s not the first time they don’t give a damn about international law, which is like a rod for them), on the creation of "no-fly" zones in Syria! What these zones will be, is already known from Libya! And in these zones the Syrian oppositionists are firmly entrenched, whom it will be extremely difficult for the Syrian army to liquidate! There, the West will try to create a government opposition to Assad, which will be immediately recognized by the West, and all the gangster Wahhabist scum will trample on Assad with redoubled energy and Saudi and State Department money!
  40. Rusin Dima
    Rusin Dima 28 March 2014 22: 04
    0
    With such support from the people of the whole planet like Vladimir Vladimirovich, in my opinion no America is scared, because the only allies of Russia are intensively re-equipped and updated with new products, and not in a single copy. And I'm still silent about the interception of missiles last year
  41. voliador
    voliador 28 March 2014 22: 31
    0
    I think that here, too, Iran will actively help the Syrians. The Iranians understand that if Syria falls, they are the next.
  42. shinobi
    shinobi 29 March 2014 07: 53
    0
    There is an opinion that the whole circus with the Yankees Maidan was conceived, in addition to capturing Crimea for NATO and association with the EU, in order to distract the Russian Federation from Syria and the Middle East in particular. That’s why the Maidan came out before the 2015 elections. Experts say if the mattresses hadn’t hurried and spent as they planned for the campaign for 15 years, then most likely they would have succeeded. But the events in Syria made them in a hurry and have what we have. There is talk that in Syria they are likely to break off.
    1. CTEPX
      CTEPX 29 March 2014 09: 21
      0
      Quote: shinobi
      It is believed that the whole circus with the Maidan Yankees was conceived

      There is another opinion)).
      Here's an example of how it might look)).
      Further prepost:
      CTEPX RU December 16, 2013 16:31 | Euromaidan and the third world
      Quote: Vovka Levka
      Ukraine is not enough, then this is a decent leadership.

      But nobody asks Ukraine. European integrators too. The hoteliers of the EU and Ukraine are understandable, quickly banging the agreement, using the existing bilateral agreements between Ukraine and Russia, to turn Ukraine into a transit duty-free pipe. Such a scheme allowed to ruin both Russia and Ukraine, for their own money. Putin broke this little scheme)).
      But the real customers of the situation are the Anglo-Saxons. A (further repetition of the post STEPX from 9 December 2013 12: 00) "They need urgent debt cancellation. To do this, they need a world war -" everyone who wants "against Russia. It is impossible to educate Hitler from the caliphate, from the Poles - there is little time. Ukraine is suitable as a battlefield. The probability of Russia being drawn into the conflict is 100% ...
      While Russia is floundering at its borders, you can play the Syrian and Japanese-Chinese cards again. In principle, apart from the war, they have no other choice)) ".
      The real struggle is for or against the implementation of such a scenario.

      So everything will swing until the beginning of the third world)).