Warrior Education in Russia

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In Russia, all men were considered warriors, this tradition has been going on since the era of the so-called “military democracy”. There were, of course, specially trained knights who devoted their entire lives to the war, but all young men and adult men possessed military skills, be they townspeople, tillers, hunters.

Warrior Education in Russia


We must remember that growing up at that time was faster, a man in 14-16 years was considered quite an adult and could begin an independent life, marry. For the tiller of the whole community built the house, the boyar son entered the military service, the young prince received control of the city.

In addition, people of that time were very different from the present, and the comparison will not be in our favor. Almost all of them were mentally and physically healthy. All painful children died in the first years or at birth - natural selection acted. Survived the most healthy, in the future constant hard physical labor of the tiller, craftsman, hunter, warrior strengthened them. There were no current evils of industrial and post-industrial societies in Russia — alcoholism, drug addiction, prostitution, fornication, obesity from lack of movement, overeating, etc.

The first step in becoming a man was an initiation, the transition from the age of infancy to the state of a child (boy) - in 2-3 of the year. This milestone was marked tonsure and saddling on a horse. It should be noted that this custom existed among all social strata. This sacred rite dates back to the time of gray-haired pagan antiquity. Only later did the church take the veil of service for armament. The rite of passage is traced among all the peoples of the Indo-European root, in Christian Europe it has been preserved as a ritual of initiation into knights.

This is a very important psychological line, he created a special mood in boys, laid the basic principles of life. The boys were tuned in to the fact that they were defenders of their family, community, city, region, the whole of “Light Russia”. They laid the core that determined their fate. It is a pity that this tradition is almost lost in today's Russia. Men are brought up by women - at home, in kindergartens, at school, in universities, as a result, there is very little “masculinity” in the country, the Russians are no longer Warriors. Only in a critical situation, in war, does the part of the Russians wake up the patrimonial memory, and then the Russians have no equal in battle. Partially such upbringing has been preserved among the Caucasian peoples, in Chechnya, but in a perverted way, there its people are considered elected, and the rest are humiliated (a kind of Nazism).

The main thing in the education of a warrior is the upbringing of the Spirit, our forefathers knew this very well. The great Russian generals knew this, for example, A. Suvorov, his “Science to conquer” is flesh of flesh, the heritage of ancestors.

In Eastern Russia there were no special schools (at least there was no news of their existence). They replaced the practice, tradition, apprenticeship. From early childhood, boys were taught to arms. Archaeologists find a lot of wooden swords, their shape is consistent with real swords. This is not the current plastic toys - an experienced fighter with a wooden sword could stand up to the enemy, the weight of a wooden oak sword almost matched the iron one. The young warrior’s kit also included: wooden spears, knives, bow with arrows (simple bow).

There were toys, games, developing coordination, agility, speed - swings, various sizes of balls, turntables, sleds, skis, snowballs, etc. Many of the children, especially from the nobility, already received small children fighting weapons - knives, swords, hatchets. The annals describe cases when they used them, killing the enemy. The knife has been with a man since childhood.

A. Belov dealt with the existence of a special school of battle in Russia, he created the system - “The Slavic-Goritsky struggle”. He confirms that combat training was held in the form of a folk game and then the “form” was supported by regular competitions, which took place on holidays, most of them had pre-Christian roots (Kupala, the day of the winter solstice, and others). Single fist fights, wall-to-wall battles were common until the 20 century. The children absorbed this battle culture almost from the cradle.

Teaching was conducted at the teacher-pupil level, compare: in Russia there were no universities before the 18 century, but cities and temples were built, guns and bells were cast, books were written, the level of education of the population in the X-XIII centuries was much higher than in Europe (as well as hygiene). Skills were passed from teachers to students in practice, in order to become a master architect, the Russian did not go to a special school, but became a master's student, also in military affairs.

The most important role played practice, Russia waged constant wars with neighboring nations, often went on internecine wars. There was no shortage of real combat conditions; young warriors could test themselves in practice. Naturally, the war took its tribute, but those who survived received a unique lesson. You will not receive such “lessons” in any school.

In peaceful life, martial skills were supported not only by folk games, but also by another important area - by hunting. This currently beast has almost no chance against a man with a firearm. Then the struggle was almost equal - claws, fangs, power, developed feelings against human skills and knives. A warrior was considered the one who got the bear. Imagine yourself with a hunting spear (spear) against a bear! Hunting was an excellent training for maintaining the Spirit, fighting skills, learning how to stalk, track down the enemy. No wonder Vladimir Monomakh in his "Instructions" recalls with equal pride about military campaigns and hunting exploits.

To summarize: the boy was made a Warrior, a defender of the Sort, Motherland based on mental attitudes (in a modern way - programs), which were introduced from birth (even before birth, so-called prenatal education), traditions of children's and adult people's games constant practice. That is why the Rus were considered the best fighters of the planet, even the Chinese emperors were guarded not by the fighters of their monastic orders and schools, but by the Rus soldiers.

Sources of:
Belov A.K. Slavic-Goritsky wrestling. The beginning. M., 1993.
Dolgov V.V., Savinov M. Khrabra of Ancient Rus. Russian squads in battle. M., 2010.
Complete Collection of Russian Chronicles.
The teachings of Vladimir Monomakh. SPb., 1997.
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  1. Crang
    +6
    April 13 2013 07: 57
    A controversial article I must say ... I do not agree that all the ancient Rusichs had combat skills. They possessed them no more than any modern MMO pepper. Just then the regular army was extremely poorly developed and therefore ordinary citizens had to fight the enemy. With quite predictable efficiency. It is enough just to remember a good example: the Battle on the Ice on Lake Peipsi in 1242. When the basis of our grouping: the central regiment, the left-hand regiment, the right-hand regiment consisted of civilians. And only the ambush regiment was staffed with professional military personnel. So it was the civilians who took the first blow of the enemy's knightly cavalry. Without going into details regarding the details of the battle, we can say that the Russians won. But the question is at what cost .... Calculate the ratio of losses. Lack of normal food, medicine, gyms, etc. also did not make our ancestors healthier. The fact that Schwartz at H / F "Conan the Barbarian" became so healthy from constantly turning the wheel of the mill is complete nonsense. In reality, he would have died there and that's it. As for masculinity and the will to win ... She was then. There it is now. It was just that then the power was people's. And today a citizen, in order to protect his honor and dignity, his relatives and friends from barbarians and lawless people, is essentially forced to oppose the authorities, which, for an attempt to simply protect themselves, immediately sends an innocent person to prison. The realities are different now. And of course people have changed too.
    1. Fox
      +13
      April 13 2013 08: 17
      Quote: Krang
      The fact that Schwartz is in X / F "Conan the Barbarian

      Actually, this does not apply to the Russians. Howard was a historian, and wrote his works according to "his historical visions." and I agree with the article. advance. I must describe it more fully. I'll tell you from my ancestors: yes, they did not part with a knife, especially in the taiga yes, and they used it masterfully. fistfights organized regularly wall-to-wall. kept the construction. and the Father must educate, for "Mother, she will only spoil." a shit who is not responsible for his words and deeds?
      1. +11
        April 13 2013 10: 59
        for "Mother, only spoil"

        Lermontov remembered:

        “Mother, open it! I'm a poor wanderer
        I am your Garun! your youngest son;
        Through bullets Russians are harmless
        I came to you! ”
        - "One?"
        - "One!.."
        “Where's the father and brothers?”
        - “Fell!
        The Prophet blessed their death,
        And the angels took their souls. "
        “Have you taken revenge?”
        - "I didn’t take revenge ...
        But I set off into the mountains with an arrow
        Left a sword in a foreign land
        To console your eyes
        And wipe your tear ... "
        - "Be quiet, be quiet! giaur crafty
        You could not die with glory
        So successful, live alone.
        By your shame, runaway of freedom
        I will not overshadow the old years,
        You are a slave and a coward - and I am not a son! .. ”
    2. +4
      April 13 2013 10: 58
      Lack of proper nutrition, medicine, gyms, etc. also did not make our ancestors healthier.

      Let's see what we have now: poor ecology, food from all kinds of GMOs and other delights, many residents lead a sedentary lifestyle, especially in cities, because of this there is a great tendency to obesity. And after all this, you say that our ancestors were not healthier ?? Complete nonsense. And here is the argument from the article itself:
      In addition, the people of that time were very different from the current ones, and the comparison will not be in our favor. Almost all of them were mentally and physically healthy. All sickly children died in the early years or at birth - natural selection acted. The healthiest survived, later on the constant hard physical labor of the farmer, artisan, hunter, warrior strengthened them.

      I also don’t understand Schwartz why they attached them here.
      but I agree with your last statement:
      Just then the power was popular. Today, a citizen, in order to protect his honor and dignity, his family and friends from barbarians and lawless people, is essentially forced to oppose the government, which immediately tries to defend itself and immediately sends an innocent person to prison.
    3. Rusich
      +6
      April 13 2013 13: 30
      One of the old Russian hand-to-hand fighting "BUZA" Forgotten by the Russian people and now remembered.

      For Holy Rus And Orthodox Faith !!! BROTHERS !!!!
      1. Rusich
        +6
        April 13 2013 13: 37
        WE WILL SERVE US EXAMPLE RUSSIAN FOR WE WILL MOST IN RUSSIA !!!!

        Russian wars

        In the courtyard of the house (87/1 Lebedev St.) a banner appeared with the image of Prince Svyatoslav, commander Suvorov, Dmitry Donskoy, Ermak Timofeevich and other Russian national heroes.

        We hope that such banners will soon be installed throughout the city, and also recall that a few days ago, on the eve of the Unity Day of the peoples of Russia and Belarus, nationalist Tatar graffiti appeared with the inscriptions "Tatar for sports", "Right Tatars" marked 116 (number of the region of Tatarstan) against the background of the green-white-red Tatar flag.

        The Russian banner is a worthy answer to the Tatar national separatists.
    4. Yoshkin Kot
      -2
      April 13 2013 20: 22
      as usual in the tribal system, but only, with the advent of specialization, they were extinguished at times, which by the way does not detract from their dignity. but or plow. yes to shoot animals, or becomes a war. studying fencing. spear battle ....
  2. Nikolko
    +2
    April 13 2013 08: 48
    In Russia, all men were considered warriors, this tradition dates back to the era of the so-called "military democracy"
    Now, not much has changed laughing The Americans out there are trying to plant their "democracy" by military means.
    Article +
    1. Yoshkin Kot
      0
      April 13 2013 21: 38
      um, in the era of "WHITE" this weapon is not possible in principle, the firearm seemed to revive, but now again specialization rules
  3. Shuriken
    +6
    April 13 2013 09: 13
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    Quote: Krang
    essentially forced to oppose the government, which for an attempt to simply protect itself immediately sends an innocent person to prison. Realities are different now
    -Then they lived according to the TRUTH. And now, according to the laws, which are written under those in power.
  4. +1
    April 13 2013 09: 38
    Quote: Shuriken
    -Then they lived according to the TRUTH. And now, according to the laws, which are written under those in power.

    It is clear that according to the laws, but something in the 90s, almost the whole country, with rare exceptions, suddenly began to live according to concepts ... Where did those laws go ???????
    1. Yoshkin Kot
      +2
      April 13 2013 21: 40
      the source of law, primarily the mores and customs of society, still modern Soviet laws, originally from Judo-Marxism. unrelated to the Russian people
    2. +1
      April 13 2013 21: 45
      Remained behind.
  5. +4
    April 13 2013 10: 09
    Professional squads (troops, armies) were few in number, because it was extremely difficult to feed them. In order for a family or tribe to allocate fifty healthy lads, to dress, shoe, give them weapons and time to prepare, this is plowing like damned and tearing themselves away. Therefore, the militia was big - it’s easier to assemble men for battle, tearing it off from the economy. Although they are not warriors.
    Only really existing states could allocate funds for the creation of a professional army. As it was in the empire (the one that is now called the Roman, then the Byzantine). With the growth of population and production, the composition of the armies grew. Although the figures given in some chronicles look fabulous. Millions of armies of supposedly ancient Persians, hundreds of thousands of imaginary Mongols, from 150 thousand to a million troops of Dmitry Ivanovich of Moscow (Donskoy). And that's all until the 15th century! Although at the beginning of 19 Napoleon led to the borders of Russia "only" 600 thousand.
    As for education, this is an important stage in any country. Russia really constantly fought and the combat-ready population is a vital part of the country's existence.
    But now, it seems, the need is gone. Otherwise, how to understand why in the heads of children clogging so much shit ?!
    1. +7
      April 13 2013 10: 32
      Quote: erased
      Otherwise, how to understand why in the heads of children clogging so much shit ?!

      But for this, it is clogged so that Russia does not have morally trained soldiers.
      Article ++++. It is the idea of ​​raising and training boys as future defenders, and girls as future mothers and "bearers" of their home that is laid down in the program of Dr. VF Bazarny. And where it is used, it gives brilliant results.
      By the way, hence the "outskirts", which, in principle, each principality had, so that the border residents = border guards, were the first to take the blow and notify the "center" of the enemy's attack. In peacetime they were simple farmers, but their whole upbringing was a preparation for such rebuffs. (And why do you think the "wide-eyed Ukrainians" yell that Ukraine was "from Hsiang to Don"? Because they believe that all these outlying lands were Ukraine !!!! laughing )
    2. Yoshkin Kot
      0
      April 13 2013 21: 41
      do not use the term slave. you are welcome
  6. 0
    April 13 2013 10: 09
    Professional squads (troops, armies) were few in number, because it was extremely difficult to feed them. In order for a family or tribe to allocate fifty healthy lads, to dress, shoe, give them weapons and time to prepare, this is plowing like damned and tearing themselves away. Therefore, the militia was big - it’s easier to assemble men for battle, tearing it off from the economy. Although they are not warriors.
    Only really existing states could allocate funds for the creation of a professional army. As it was in the empire (the one that is now called the Roman, then the Byzantine). With the growth of population and production, the composition of the armies grew. Although the figures given in some chronicles look fabulous. Millions of armies of supposedly ancient Persians, hundreds of thousands of imaginary Mongols, from 150 thousand to a million troops of Dmitry Ivanovich of Moscow (Donskoy). And that's all until the 15th century! Although at the beginning of 19 Napoleon led to the borders of Russia "only" 600 thousand.
    As for education, this is an important stage in any country. Russia really constantly fought and the combat-ready population is a vital part of the country's existence.
    But now, it seems, the need is gone. Otherwise, how to understand why in the heads of children clogging so much shit ?!
  7. +10
    April 13 2013 10: 12
    Interesting examples are given both in the article and in the comments: "In Chechnya, men's upbringing but a perverted, ice battle and the ratio of losses, then they lived in truth ...".
    Very simplistic! Chechnya should not be cited as an example if not in the subject. As for the scumbags there, their education is generally absent, and their habits are not male - perverted, but jackals with all the ensuing consequences. But it’s not worth summarizing and driving everyone in an rally for flags; there are enough normal people there. Regarding the loss of dogs - knights and Russian combatants and militias, it is also not clear. Those who believe. that our people died more, I want to remind you that the knights still had all kinds of friends - accomplices from which not many returned to the house before the hut ... Anyway, the place itself was still not found, the conclusions must be more careful ...
    But the statement then lived in truth, generally leading the discussion away from the topic of the article itself ...
    According to everyone, then they lived. Then there was no communism in Russia and people did not think about the world revolution.
    And what about the topic I would like to say - of course boys should be raised by men, there should be military - patriotic clubs and all kinds of sections in the country, in the NVP school, Suvorov and Nakhimov schools and military schools should be further developed as much as needed! But the "COMMITTEE OF SOLDIER'S MOTHERS" SHOULD NOT BE!
    1. 0
      April 13 2013 11: 23
      Chechnya should not be cited as an example if not in the subject
      about the fact that in Chechnya "their people are considered the chosen ones, and the rest are belittled"I would not deny. Such an opinion can be met, and not only in Chechnya but also wider in the Caucasus. But how the author wrote it, in one paragraph, the context, this is of course unexpected ... the author writes that these traditions were observed in Russia before , and today are lost:
      It is unfortunate that this tradition is almost lost in today's Russia.
      but! immediately writes that:
      Partially like upbringing was preserved among the Caucasian peoples, in Chechnya, but in a perverted form, where their people are considered elected, and the rest are belittled (peculiar Nazism).

      is it like that? and we used to have? a kind of Nazism?
    2. 0
      April 13 2013 18: 30
      Quote: Oper
      "COMMITTEE OF SOLDIERS 'MOTHERS" SHOULD NOT BE!

      Because this is a bunch of anti-army hysterical women of easy virtue, funded by amers, i.e. the fifth column
    3. Misantrop
      +1
      April 13 2013 18: 34
      Quote: Oper
      "COMMITTEE OF SOLDIERS 'MOTHERS" SHOULD NOT BE!

      They are more often called the "Committee of nulliparous mothers". Most of these "activists" have never had children at all, let alone military men. Barren flowers
      1. alexandr00070
        +1
        April 13 2013 23: 44
        Quote: Misantrop
        They are more often called the "Committee of nulliparous mothers". Most of these "activists" have never had children at all, let alone military men. Barren flowers

        Plus, they are financed from abroad and direct their activities to undermine the country's defense capability, although much depends on what place the father takes in raising sons, my friend’s wife said, “I’ll lie down with bones, but I won’t give my son to the army,” and my husband, the police captain is silent, but my 16 year old son is sleeping and sees how he will go to the army and almost cries out of resentment that he may not be taken (in his childhood, one phalanx of the index finger on his right hand was amputated). And by the way, by the way, the CWP should be returned to schools
    4. +6
      April 13 2013 20: 52
      I agree with almost everything ... except for the Chechens. You are wrong, they educate their men, and they devote a lot of energy to education. It's just ... You've probably heard this chatter a thousand times - about wolves and sheep. Like most people have sheep, and there are wolves - who guard when they want, when they want to eat them. That Chechens to this bike are very serious. You consider them a beast, because they are ... a beast. Raised so with all diligence. Just the fathers are preparing them in an animal pack, into wolves, you look closely ...
      Everything would be cool with them. That's just ... firstly, the wolf is the most deserted beast in the world. The hare is much braver, I do not advise the eared man to carelessly touch his hands - until the last second of his life he is able to paint you with the sharpest claws of his hind legs ... Rembrandt just rests, can let him out of his bare stomach and intestines. You can’t be afraid of a beaten wolf, and your whine will die.
      Secondly, people who are not wolves and not sheep, but simply people - are kings of animals in general. And the Chechen is naturally blown away before a person. This infuriates them utterly, but they cannot understand a person — not a wolf, not a sheep, not a slave, not a master. The man seems to them some kind of superwolf, and they, of course, are trying to kill him. How can, in vile, in the back and ten with one. Aerobatics - with the wrong hands. I understand everything, but ... I feel sorry for them, because it is a dead end, no way out.
    5. +1
      April 13 2013 22: 55
      Quote: Oper
      But the "COMMITTEE OF SOLDIER'S MOTHERS" TO BE NOT

      I fully support! And I appeal to those men whose sons are growing — don’t give mothers and grandmothers your boys, do not take them to dance clubs! Grow from them real, proud, confident people! Russian soldiers and defenders!
  8. kvodrato
    +1
    April 13 2013 11: 13
    Article Plus +
  9. kvodrato
    0
    April 13 2013 11: 21
    Our ancestors of professional warriors were called squads, vigilantes, and their elite were called VARYAGS. But over the Varangians there was an even more elite caste - VITYAZI. These were the most real battle mages. The caste of knights wielded the Force. A knight could become not just a professional warrior, but only one of the Varangians who possessed paranormal abilities, in a simple way, could draw the Force and direct it through himself. At the same time, he became practically invulnerable and tireless in battle. The ancient Secret Knowledge of controlling the Force in general, and in battle, in particular, was called "Alive" by our ancestors.
    1. -1
      April 14 2013 10: 14
      Our ancestors called Varangians ... Varangians. Scandinavian bandits, prowling the inhabited lands in search. In search of someone to sell a sword, or better to find a weak person directly, kill him and rob him, then you won't have to share. From this "proud" naming, the word thief came from, which is natural. I'm sorry, but if there was some kind of secret knowledge in Russia, then what you were told is not it.
      The transformation of a bloody gangster into honest Russian soldiers is aimed at banal psychomanipulation. Since advertising of the Vikings, Vikings and other abominations is firmly fixed in the child's brain. And manipulators use this as a good marker. If a person is sufficiently developed to cut off the rotten Varangians from Russian history - he is too tough for them, then he is not needed. You didn't succeed, and they rushed to fill your head with "secret knowledge" further ...
      Do not be upset. When you seek strength, you often get it in the face. You lose consciousness, break, break, cripple a fool. How could it be otherwise, the greater the force - the higher the pay, there is no free power, the Americans themselves have driven themselves into a dead end with their miserable supermen. When searching for knowledge, you always wander into dead ends full of strange and almost always profitable delusions. Search further ...
      1. alexandr00070
        +2
        April 14 2013 11: 28
        Quote: Mikhail3
        Our ancestors called Varangians ... Varangians. Scandinavian bandits, prowling the inhabited lands in search. In search of someone to sell a sword, or better to find a weak person directly, kill him and rob him, then you won't have to share. From this "proud" naming, the word thief came from, which is natural. I'm sorry, but if there was some kind of secret knowledge in Russia, then what you were told is not it.

        how everyone is just Varangians, Varangians, Varangians, thieves, how is it that you all just have a 1000-year-old problem of the name of the Varangians solved itself by itself, even in the wiki there are 8 options for deciphering this word, have you forgotten that princes came to Russia with their traditions Rurik from encouraged, Oleg who ruled in Russia for more than 30 years and created Kievan Rus from scratch was an urman. And they brought the traditions of raising soldiers from childhood, and this tradition worked, it was not for nothing that the Varangians were valued in all countries. By the way, the Cossacks, descendants of the Rusi-Varangians, worked according to the same scheme, were hired for war, and so they lived, but they also had their own methodology, I hope they heard about the Cossack Spas. Varangians plus the traditions of the indigenous inhabitants of Russia in the end gave the Russian spirit which is so afraid in the world. And secret knowledge always exists, among all peoples, and they are achieved through improvement, and it is clear from history that the knowledge of Russian soldiers, professional soldiers is an order of magnitude higher than that of others
        1. +1
          April 14 2013 13: 14
          "Problem", and even millennial! When flattering idlers who call themselves nothing but scientists tell you about "problems" of this level - send them, and better off. Their works in such "authoritative" sources as wiki sources could have more versions. They live by it. How it's done? Read Molière instead of their secret revelations. "Tartuffe". The classics are unloved by children ... for a clear structure, for the fact that for free, without difficulty, you will not understand it. And you read it, become stronger than all this chaff that has imagined a lot about itself.
          Yes, the Vikings were appreciated. In small principalities there is always dirty work ... And yes, that is, no smile , in general, Cossacks are not descendants of this scum, of course. The ancestor is not the one who threw the seed, the descendant is the one who was raised. The educators from the bandits are the same, yeah ... But the Cossacks themselves ... the Cossack, as a matter of fact, is a stanichnik - this is a bandit. I'm sorry. It just happened - in the steppe there is only grass! What about weapons? What about the equipment? And bread with vodka, in the end ?!
          And also - Christian faith. And once all these free bandits, horse and river, faced a choice - to steal alone and in small groups, flying into the Tatarva, then on Russian settlements, robbing either Turkish ships or Russian merchants, and inevitably end the "brilliant career" with a noose on neck (amazing unanimity of Russians and Muslims - death from strangulation was considered the most shameful by both) or become something more.
          And since there were many Russians among the Cossacks, the Russians infected the rest with a deep understanding that a person cannot live without something that is longer than his life. This is not a man, but a two-legged beast, cattle mooing (albeit with any fangs), some Englishman, God forgive me! So the Cossacks took the hand of the Moscow Tsar, voluntarily becoming the blade of his sword against the Muslims. Very quickly, the Russian burned the gangster (you die today and tomorrow I will not fight for the departing convoy with freed slaves) and we get honest, proud, Russian soldiers.
          But. From there grows merciless - a Cossack without service is not a Cossack. And in the nineties, gangsters across the south of Russia returned to the Cossacks the original mentality. Gangster, alas. After all, there were attempts in the army to revive the Cossacks ... only it wasn’t for farmers and commerce to gut, the experiment had to be closed. It is not necessary to interfere with the Cossacks and the Nordic thief, who never lagged behind the murder and robbery. At least in memory of the Ural Cossacks, Russia did not betray and was completely destroyed. But from the traitors of the Don, which shoots have waved ... shameful and disgusting ...
          And also - learn. Learn all your life. Don't look for secrets, look for skills and knowledge. First of all - the ability to analyze information. This will give your mind immeasurably more than all the "secret knowledge" in the entire history of mankind put together. For secret is not knowledge. Deception is one ...
      2. 0
        April 15 2013 08: 55
        well, not Scandinavian, but Baltic;)
        Well, in their pure form they were not bandits, just like the Vikings, and in general all merchants-sailors of those times.
        Everything was according to the situation: somewhere they traded, somewhere they robbed, somewhere they entered the service ...
  10. +6
    April 13 2013 11: 31
    The fact that a man should bring up a man is right, and to teach, but not to drink beer and to feel for women (although women should also teach to feel for women), but to be a warrior, defender of the Motherland!
    1. +1
      April 13 2013 18: 32
      Quote: Prapor Afonya
      women feel

      women to probe it is necessary to learn first of all laughing
  11. 0
    April 13 2013 11: 49
    By the way, yes, I will support the Opera comments regarding the losses of the knight-dogs in the ice battle. For almost 100 years, the Battle on the Ice held the first place in losses among the knightly class in medieval wars. So many knights had never died in Europe before. And only later, when the Battle of the Golden Spurs took place in 1302, and 700 pairs of knight spurs were found on the battlefield, the Battle of the Ice faded into the shadows. But its task to suspend the plan of the German feudal lords "Drang nach Osten" (it was then that this term appeared, it was not Hitler who first invented it) on the Ice fulfilled.
    And so yes, the article is crude for preschool children, minus the author of the article for mixing everything together
  12. 0
    April 13 2013 12: 59
    Quote: kvodrato
    Our ancestors of professional warriors were called squads, vigilantes, and their elite were called VARYAGS. But over the Varangians there was an even more elite caste - VITYAZI. These were the most real battle mages. The caste of knights wielded the Force. A knight could become not just a professional warrior, but only one of the Varangians who possessed paranormal abilities, in a simple way, could draw the Force and direct it through himself. At the same time, he became practically invulnerable and tireless in battle. The ancient Secret Knowledge of controlling the Force in general, and in battle, in particular, was called "Alive" by our ancestors.


    Leave maleh .... I would also like to smoke too xDD Stop reading Golovochev and other science fiction writers
  13. gorkoxnumx
    +11
    April 13 2013 13: 23
    Whatever it was, but all Russian men should be strong, regardless of whether they served or not. The fatherland can also be defended in the design bureau by developing weapons and going on an expedition to Antarctica. We need to instill a healthy lifestyle and set an example ourselves, try to drag our friends to the gym or section as much as possible, cultivate kindness and respect for other people, but do not give scum a descent !!!
    1. +2
      April 13 2013 16: 03
      Quote: gorko83
      Whatever it was, but all Russian men should be strong, regardless of whether they served or not.

      A commonly used expression - Suddenly, war, and I'm tired, does not sound casual! War at any time mobilizes Russian people very quickly, also our peculiarity.
      1. +6
        April 13 2013 17: 42
        Recently, someone in one of the television programs said that the Russians are best able to do the impossible. Strongly said !!!
      2. Fox
        +1
        April 13 2013 18: 25
        Quote: Strezhevchanin
        Commonly used expression - Suddenly war, and I'm tired

        this is a Cossack bike. my grandfather told me about it. and my grandmother then teased us about it. a cossack is lying on his bench, his wife, bring water and come to him. he is not.
    2. +4
      April 13 2013 18: 36
      Quote: gorko83
      men must be strong regardless of whether they served or not.

      But men are obliged to serve, even if urgent, without it, in Russia we should not have any professional, career or political growth, as is customary in Israel soldier
      1. 0
        April 13 2013 20: 29
        plus you for that. I have long been advocating a change in the law on civil service in the direction of toughening the requirements for applicants for such vacancies. You need to know Russian perfectly and be sure to have an "urgent"
  14. Murzyak
    +3
    April 13 2013 14: 00
    Quote: Oper
    But the "COMMITTEE OF SOLDIER'S MOTHERS" SHOULD NOT BE!

    I am not against the "COMMITTEE OF SOLDIER'S MOTHERS", although at the present time these are the committees of mothers who left the army. It was more correct to create committees of soldiers' fathers.

    Quote: Prapor Afonya
    VITYAZI. These were the real battle magicians.

    Eco how you got carried away. Long-term reading of fantasy, and the war with devils in toys, all the same, affect the subjective perception of the surrounding reality. For example, AK-47 works well against "battle mages". And about upbringing, and in particular patriotic, I advise you to read what was written by Karem Rush 25 years ago. True, then he was very criticized by all sorts of "korotichs".
    1. +3
      April 13 2013 18: 46
      Quote: Murzyak
      e.g. AK-47

      And where did you see such a machine gun? I served in the army for 30 for years, but I haven’t seen anything like this, dealt with AK, AKM, AKMS, but AK-47 never saw you. You probably saw him in Internet shootings and in Amer films about SA and the Russian army? laughing
      1. 0
        April 13 2013 23: 05
        Quote: voronov
        And where did you see such a machine gun?

        Bravo! But I read the post and didn’t understand, something was wrong, the eye noticed some kind of error, but what kind of error? I didn’t see it and only after reading your post did I understand. Big mercy.
      2. alexandr00070
        0
        April 13 2013 23: 50
        Quote: voronov
        but the AK-47 never saw

        Actually, the AK-47 is such a group, most likely they didn’t serve the guys who saw the machine gun in the pictures, but the colleague meant the AK-74, the numbers are the same, but the hand wavered.
  15. Nicotine 7
    -4
    April 13 2013 14: 25
    The author bent a little about men aged 14-16 and their independent lives: our Ancestors lived in the communities (modern concept-Big Family), by the age of 12 they received a name and after 9 years of education, i.e. at 21 were prepared and trained to create their own family and protect her and her Family.
    1. alexandr00070
      +1
      April 14 2013 00: 05
      Quote: Nicotine 7
      The author bent a little about men aged 14-16 and their independent lives: our Ancestors lived in the communities (modern concept-Big Family), by the age of 12 they received a name and after 9 years of education, i.e. at 21 were prepared and trained to create their own family and protect her and her Family.

      but what about:
      "St. Alexander Nevsky was born on May 30, 1219 in the inheritance of his father - Pereyaslavl Zalessky. Direct information about the childhood of St. Alexander is very scarce. But the chronicle information that outlines the external milestones of his life, the story of the life and information about the upbringing of the princes restore the atmosphere of his childhood. Until the age of three, Saint Alexander, like all the princes of his time, lived in a house with his mother. In these years, apparently, there was a childish silence, isolation from the world. Around were only the princess's chambers, the inner life of the family and the church. At the age of three, Saint Alexander was tonsured.After the prayer service, the priest, and perhaps the bishop himself, cut his hair for the first time, and the father, leading him out of the church, first put him on a horse. From that day on he was taken from the princess's tower and handed over to the care of a breadwinner or uncle - a close boyar.
      After the tonsure, education began, which was led by the breadwinner. Education consisted of two sides: teaching to read and write from the Bible and the Psalms and the development of strength, agility and courage. Knyazhich was taken for fishing from an early age, he saw round-ups for rounds, deer and elk. Then, when he was growing up, he was taught to raise a bear from the thicket with a spear. It was a dangerous hunt. But even ahead of the prince was a dangerous life. Young princes learned about life early with all its severity and roughness. Sometimes already six-year-old princes were taken on a campaign. Therefore, for them from a young age, along with games, the goodness of church life and the silence of the mansion, war, blood and murder were waged. "
      "On December 30, 1231, Yaroslav entered Novgorod and at St. Sophia made a promise -" kiss the Holy Mother of God "- to observe Novgorod's liberties. This time he did not stay in Novgorod and, having spent two weeks there to arrange things, returned in mid-January to Pereyaslavl, leaving in Novgorod their governors Theodore and St. Alexander with the boyars.Young princes again found themselves in Novgorod between the will of their father and the will of Novgorod.But this time the reign was even more difficult: in these years Novgorod and all of Russia were visited one after another by various misfortunes and troubles. "

      at the age of 12 he stayed to rule in Novgorod, and at 23 defeated the Germans, in those days the children grew up quickly, hostilities continued all the time, as you say, at 21, in 21 half of teenagers, less successful and less dexterous, were already killed
      1. yurta2013
        0
        1 May 2013 10: 36
        Actually, this is an example of education in the families of the military estate (princes, boyars, warriors, later nobles). The rest of the population, most likely, was brought up according to other rules.
  16. +3
    April 13 2013 15: 05
    Yes, the lack of male upbringing is a terrible thing. Himself at one time received in full ... mother and grandmother under 13 years of rot in a music school ... bl & * ^% $ ... well, "a boy from a good family." Then for many years he beat this crap out of himself with the help of pudoviks, karate and kickboxing. One thing consoles, he raised his son according to our concepts. And, by the way, by the age of 15-16 he was already quite an adult, in the family he was absolutely equal. Looking at him, I fully believed that, for example, Arkady Gaidar could command a regiment at the age of 16 - my son could 100%.
    1. 0
      April 13 2013 18: 50
      Quote: SlavaP
      could command a regiment in 16 years - my son 100% could.

      What’s the regiment then? Take higher brigade, or division !!! laughing
  17. 0
    April 13 2013 15: 57
    I'm generally for a system of education as in ancient Sparta soldier
    1. ABV
      +3
      April 13 2013 17: 52
      it's not bad too. remember how childhood passed in the 60s, 70s, 80s --- children on the streets were constantly running, playing war ", different" musketeers ", with sticks, rapiers --- this is already a physical and moral formation . and now ?? - computers, tablets, virtual toys ...
  18. alexandr00070
    +3
    April 13 2013 18: 59
    On Saturday, a monument to the White General Lavr Kornilov was unveiled on the outskirts of the regional capital. This day was not chosen by chance - on April 13 it was 95 years since the death of the commander of the Volunteer Army on this spot during the Civil War.
    Since 1995, on April 13, Kornilov commemoration is regularly held in Krasnodar. This time, in order to commemorate one of the most famous commanders of the White Movement, Cossack delegations arrived in the Kuban capital not only in most regions of the Kuban, but also representatives of several regions of the Russian South. At house No. 100 on Kalinina Street, where Kornilov spent the last hours of his life, more than 200 Cossacks, representatives of the regional and city authorities, deputies of the Legislative Assembly of the region, writers, historians and clergy gathered.

    In a festive atmosphere, a bronze sculpture of a famous general was opened by the head of the city Vladimir Yevlanov and the deputy head of the regional administration, the chieftain of the Kuban Cossack army Nikolai Doluda.

    “We are here to pay tribute to a distinguished man,” said Doluda. - Historians and contemporaries treat him differently, but this is not the main thing. It must be remembered that Lavr Kornilov was very fond of his homeland. The monument to him is another step towards unity and peace in Russia.

    The three-meter bronze figure of the general was placed near the Kuban River, next to a small house, where Kornilov died. An overcoat is thrown over Lavra’s shoulders, the white general is sad, with a little disheveled hair. The authors of the monument are Krasnodar sculptors Alan Kornaev and Valery Pchelin.


    It’s just for information, 20 years of the new Russia and new idols, and you want someone to provide you with the true state of affairs in those days for 1000 years, or else they argue in the Battle of Ice where civilians fought, but there is a version that they didn’t fight, and they don’t know the place, and there are no remains at the bottom, etc., etc.
    our story is debatable
    1. 0
      April 14 2013 20: 00
      Lubo! Thanks to the people of Krasnodar - by the way, if I’m not mistaken, a modest monument stood there even in Soviet times.
  19. 0
    April 13 2013 22: 21
    "Men are brought up by women - at home, in kindergartens, schools, in universities, as a result, there is very little" masculinity "in the country, Russians have ceased to be Warriors."
    The ancient Greeks, faced with the culture of the Persians, did not consider them to be warriors. For one reason, after learning about the position of women in Persian society. The Greeks said: "A humiliated woman, a mother, cannot raise a real warrior." We now have many, too, behave towards women like the ancient Persians, remembering the role of women only on March 8.
  20. +2
    April 14 2013 00: 35
    Personally, I am proud that Russian. Here are just individuals who are ready to sell their mother. I hope that these are exceptions to the total number of our glorious people ...
  21. seafarer
    0
    April 14 2013 06: 42
    The article is not bad. But some kind of scumbag, or something sad
    Yes piled everything in a heap. Only the annalistic history of Russia has a thousand-year history. And during this time, oh how many ways of life have changed. From mass militias of the entire male population to professional princely squads + militia, as an auxiliary fighting force.
    To properly discuss the article, you must first decide what period we are talking about.

    And the examples of Sparta, Rome, Byzantium - not an indicator. In Greek policies, in the Roman Republic each A FREE CITIZEN was a warrior. Here are just a CITIZEN was not everyone. The whole ancient world rested on slave labor. In Greece, the infantry - hoplites consisted only of free citizens (and all the weapons and armor of the soldiers had to have their own - no one supplied them with anything).
    Quote: krokodil25
    I'm generally for a system of education as in ancient Sparta

    And you don’t want to try on a sack of helot in Sparta? The caste of disenfranchised, albeit free, farmers.

    In Russia, there has never been such slavery as in the countries of the Mediterranean Sea. There were serf slaves, but as far as I know, it was not for life. Even prisoners after some time became free people. You don’t need to go far for an example: governor Dobrynya with Prince Vladimir. The son of the Drevlyansky prince Mala, a captive after the burning of Iskorosten, became the right hand of the Kiev prince.
    And the maintenance of one professional warrior - a combatant required about 50 peasant farms. Therefore, the squads were small. Therefore, the princes fought among themselves: more smerd-tributaries-more and better armed squad. From those times there is the origin of the noble (or as it was also called - a servant) estates - from those 50 yards from which tribute went to the maintenance of a professional warrior. Peter I, by the way, revived this tradition, obliging ALL nobles to serve the state.
    So, the general education of boys as future warriors in Russia was probably a unique phenomenon among all non-nomadic peoples of the then civilized world.

    А Krengu I want to remind you that the shock "pig" of the Teutonic knights was never able to defeat the central Big Regiment of Novgorod militias. And the fact that this was almost the first defeat of the Teutonic Order since its inception speaks about the fighting qualities of the Novgorod militia.
    1. yurta2013
      0
      1 May 2013 10: 08
      There was slavery in Russia, and from the moment of its formation. Domestic slaves were then called "servants". The capture of additional servants was one of the main incentives for the conquest campaigns of the ancient Russian princes. Servants who were planted on the ground later gave rise to slaves. As for Dobrynya, there were similar cases in the countries of early medieval Western Europe, where kings often made literate slaves their confidants, and sometimes even counts. In general, the early history of Russia differs little from the similar history of most other countries (not only European ones). And Peter the 1st did not revive the traditions of noble service to the state. It appeared along with the formation of the nobility itself, which was created for the service of the state. The statement about the first defeat of the Teutons on Lake Peipsi is also not entirely accurate. The Lithuanians defeated them even earlier.
    2. alexandr00070
      0
      6 May 2013 10: 13
      Quote: seafarer
      You don’t need to go far for an example: governor Dobrynya with Prince Vladimir. The son of the Drevlyansky prince Mala, a captive after the burning of Iskorosten, became the right hand of the Kiev prince.
      Do you even understand what you wrote Dobrynya was Vladimir’s uncle, that is, brother of the housekeeper Olga Malka (Malushka, Malushi), Vladimir’s mother, by the way, a captive (or being held hostage) Khazarin. Olga burnt Iskorosten, Svyatoslav then was still small, and so Vladimir was the youngest son of Svyatoslav (according to some reports, he was adopted), how old was your Dobrynya when Vladimir began to rule
  22. +1
    April 14 2013 13: 38
    Teens came to the squads, who usually turned 10-15 years old, these were the middle or youngest sons who did not receive a paternal inheritance, or the children of the dead warriors.
    In the squad, they spent the whole day doing clean weapons, getting used to it, and practicing a lot. Training with weapons took place with full military clothing.
    Since ancient times, they began to attract people from the common people to the squad in counterbalance to the mercenaries whom they did not like in Russia. Usually, youths and teenagers came to the squads already well prepared.
    Their dexterity developed in children's games with peers, accuracy - hunting, and they learned to fight during numerous folk festivals, when they fought wall to wall - usually it was a village in a village where every teenager got the basics of Russian fist fighting.
    PS The bear's totem was the most common totem. Stand “Russian bear”. Who will believe that such a calm stance is combat. The club-footed man steps over from foot to foot, dances, sways, leads with his shoulders, his front paws are overhang. And get in - only shreds will fly.
    During these rotations with the shoulders, the heart is massaged, the lungs are actively ventilated, the body enters a combat rhythm. And a blow - the hand seems to be relaxed, but it hits specifically! There are no pronounced elements of defense, or attack. Some movements smoothly and unpredictably for the enemy flow into others ...
    In one of the Arabic manuscripts, training of vigilantes in water-swimming with "full calculation", "forcing" the river under water, while breathing through reed tubes ...
    And rightly, many say that the whole nation stood up to defend the Fatherland, Mercenaries are good only in aggressive campaigns. And the combatants can be safely ranked among the first commandos.
  23. 0
    April 14 2013 20: 27
    May great Rus be glorified at all times and peoples
  24. +1
    April 15 2013 08: 59
    This beast currently has almost no chance against a person with a firearm. Then the struggle was almost equal - claws, fangs, power, developed feelings against human skills and cold weapons.

    Partially I do not agree with the statement: this is when all the devils from the snowmobiles of the beast shoot or from under the headlights, then yes - there is no chance.
    And when you honestly hunt, on your own or on your skis, then you still need to track down the beast, go up to it to shoot and get into it.
    Regarding the hunt for a bear with a spear, it is also not entirely true: no one hunted with a spear alone (except for some scumbags :)), the spear bear was "fixed", and then finished off from the flanks with an ax or a knife
  25. EvilDentist
    0
    April 15 2013 11: 26
    An article plus, although pretty dull, could have been more widespread.
    I was raised by my father, who himself grew up in an orphanage, he raised me correctly, unlike fathers, a moss of friends and acquaintances. I remember that the most offensive thing was when, when I was little, I was whining with pain, or I was overwhelmed with something - "well, what are you like a woman?" said, rarely, but aptly, everything went away at once)) Now this does not work for little boys at all - /
  26. gameover65
    +1
    April 15 2013 17: 21
    guys, Kryuchkov, Kadochnikov, Seagal, Bazlov, Lavrov, etc. etc.
    even though one of them is ready to enter the ring, I'm not talking about fighting without rules, with a boxer and show the effectiveness of their equipment?
    I won’t even talk about contactless people.

    a hat is everything, and a complete one. there is army hand-to-hand combat, there is combat sambo.
    Fedor Emelianenko is a sambo wrestler plus various striking techniques and in the ring he is simply KING!

    IMHO
  27. yurta2013
    0
    1 May 2013 10: 26
    I only partially agree with the author. A special military training program apparently existed among the Slavs during the tribal system. With its destruction and the formation of the state, it also became a thing of the past, surviving only among the military class. However, the remnants of this program remained with the Russian people for a very long time. The last time I heard about youth fistfights in our village (district by district) was from older brothers when I was 8-9 years old (in the early 70s). True, the strict rules of the battle (except for the lying ones do not beat) then were no longer observed. As for wooden swords, during my childhood, our wooden village was still being built and we had more than enough raw materials for making such weapons. Every kid also had pocket knives, and after every movie "about the war" we rushed to make weapons for our games like we saw in the movies. I had a whole arsenal of wooden weapons, from daggers to machine guns. Everything was handmade. I am afraid that future archaeologists, finding my arsenal in the ruins of our shed, will also think that in our time there was a special program for military training of young people.