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What awaits the Ukrainian "defense industry"

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What awaits the Ukrainian "defense industry"

Enterprises of the Ukrainian "defense industry" may find themselves in a very difficult social situation in the event of a possible failure of Ukraine to cooperate with Russia in the field of military-technical cooperation (MTC).


Such an opinion in a conversation with the correspondent. ITAR-TASS was expressed by the chief editor of the magazine “Arms Export” of the Center for Analysis of Strategies and Technologies (CAST), Andrei Frolov.

“Probably, deliveries of the Ukrainian defense industry can be cut off for Russia, but this will cause a social explosion at enterprises that represent the elite of Ukrainian engineering products. If you look at military-technical cooperation, then formally the share of Russia is about 10 percent in the Ukrainian defense industry. But, for example, the main importer for such companies as Motor Sich and Zorya-Mashproekt is Russia. They supply a significant share of their products to the Russian Federation, ”said Frolov.

According to him, Zorya-Mashproekt, in addition to turbines for ships, supplies gas pumping stations for Gazprom. In addition, for these enterprises, Russia is one of the largest markets for services, components and spare parts.

“In the future, if supplies stop abruptly, then by the end and even by the middle of the year, the Russian defense industry may also have problems, first of all, aviation engines, as well as a number of components that do not yet have Russian analogues. For the Russian shipbuilding and ship repair this situation is not critical. Of course, the refusal of interaction in the Ukrainian defense industry will hit much harder. Russian production, this situation may prompt the creation of import-substituting capacities, ”ITAR-TASS quoted Frolov as saying.
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  1. Tumbleweed
    Tumbleweed 21 March 2014 12: 04
    +19
    Nothing good already ...
    Which ... will now conclude contracts with Ukraine. Already signed contracts will be disrupted and I think considerable fines will be set for Ukraine.
    Now the Maidanists Kamaz and distilleries are seizing, they will soon realize that it is cooler to ride on armored personnel carriers and tanks and with their help you can take more dough for guarding "strategic" objects (markets, supermarkets, gas stations ... winked ) ...
    1. sergey32
      sergey32 21 March 2014 12: 12
      +24
      I stopped buying Ukrainian chocolate for my production. Unreliable. I take from the Syrians, who have just opened a small factory.
      1. W1950
        W1950 21 March 2014 12: 29
        +6
        The military-industrial complex should not have allies from other countries at all. It is hard, but reliable.
      2. jjj
        jjj 21 March 2014 12: 29
        +3
        The Ukrainian defense industry will be hard at first. And then it will smoothly pour into the structures of the Russian defense industry
      3. Rusin Dima
        Rusin Dima 21 March 2014 13: 30
        +4
        Well done, Well done, Well done, to make purchases from the Syrians is to support a country that is for us but in very serious condition once again Well done
        1. StolzSS
          StolzSS 21 March 2014 18: 45
          +1
          Yes, they have there in Syria, of course (((You can send them the old equipment as the fleet manages, high is not new, but it will still fight ...
      4. Setrac
        Setrac 21 March 2014 13: 40
        +4
        Quote: sergey32
        I stopped buying Ukrainian chocolate for my production. Unreliable. I take from the Syrians, who have just opened a small factory.

        This should be done by every citizen of Russia, priority when buying Russian goods, in extreme cases, the customs union.
    2. zennon
      zennon 22 March 2014 01: 15
      0
      Already signed contracts will be disrupted and I think considerable fines will be set for Ukraine.

      And there’s nothing to think! They took from China $ 3 in advance for the grain and didn’t put any x .., in general, nothing!
  2. Lk17619
    Lk17619 21 March 2014 12: 05
    +6
    mid-year, the Russian defense industry may also have problems


    I think it will not be critical

    Of course, the refusal of interaction in the Ukrainian defense industry will hit much harder.


    Then, the South-East of Ukraine at an accelerated pace to join Russia
  3. Antibrim
    Antibrim 21 March 2014 12: 06
    +7
    will block supplies, ours will hastily develop their own. and in general it’s stupid to do it. people need to think about, workers also want to eat
  4. Oleg Prophetic
    Oleg Prophetic 21 March 2014 12: 06
    +27
    Without Russia in Ukraine, the end will come, not just the defense industry
    1. Lantau
      Lantau 21 March 2014 12: 09
      +3
      is it so bad?
      1. Setrac
        Setrac 21 March 2014 13: 42
        +4
        Quote: Lantau
        is it so bad?

        Pessimists say that everything is bad, it cannot be worse.
        But optimists know that - maybe.
  5. Standard Oil
    Standard Oil 21 March 2014 12: 07
    +4
    I know what the Ukrainian defense industry is waiting for, it will produce a super-megatank called Pz (D) c.
    1. kostyan77708
      kostyan77708 21 March 2014 12: 24
      +11
      or Iron Caput)))) so that the entire army of Maidan climbed there))))
      1. NovelRZN
        NovelRZN 21 March 2014 13: 31
        0
        etta 5 points)
    2. The comment was deleted.
  6. Lost
    Lost 21 March 2014 12: 08
    +4
    Russian production this situation may push to the creation of import-substituting capacities


    So this is good. Of course, I’ll have to snuggle up somewhere, but as a result, the situation will come to hand.
  7. Cripple cross
    Cripple cross 21 March 2014 12: 08
    +3
    There will be a reason to develop your next enterprise and get away from another dependence, from other states!
  8. Lantau
    Lantau 21 March 2014 12: 08
    +3
    Enterprises of the Ukrainian "defense industry" may find themselves in a very difficult social situation in the event of a possible failure of Ukraine to cooperate with Russia in the field of military-technical cooperation (MTC).

    All this is sad. As I understand it, these enterprises are in Eastern Ukraine, and these are the regions that feed the whole of Ukraine. So there will be nothing good.
    1. mojohed2012
      mojohed2012 21 March 2014 12: 23
      +6
      If so, everything goes on. Waiting for Ukraine the fate of the younger members of the EU. It will only be a market for products from Germany and Holland with France, and Ukraine is a source of prostitution, unskilled labor.
      In short, a paradise for anarchists and bandits.
      1. kotyara
        kotyara 21 March 2014 12: 33
        +1
        A sad future!
        1. Tor hummer
          Tor hummer 21 March 2014 16: 44
          +1
          Quote: cat
          A sad future!

          They chose him.
  9. VNP1958PVN
    VNP1958PVN 21 March 2014 12: 11
    +2
    The country is ripening ...
  10. awg75
    awg75 21 March 2014 12: 11
    +8
    personally, my opinion is that we can’t do anything to help the Ukrainian military-industrial complex. with our own hands and money we will help them build modern technology that they can give banderlogs to those who hate everything that is connected with Russia. let them put the economy on a peaceful track ...
  11. Anuarkz
    Anuarkz 21 March 2014 12: 12
    +7
    It’s a pity to be honest, because if nothing changes in the near future, then for them the 90s will seem to be a kindergarten.
  12. Voenruk
    Voenruk 21 March 2014 12: 13
    +2
    Therefore, you must take the cow by the udder! Used and that's enough! We need it! As they say: A bad head does not give rest to hands. Destroy what can be profitable.
  13. a52333
    a52333 21 March 2014 12: 14
    +6
    “In the future, if supplies stop abruptly, then by the end and even by the middle of the year, the Russian defense industry may also have problems

    Problems will arise earlier, gas prices will change - you don’t even go to grandmas, they will stand up, I don’t think that in this situation the Russian Federation will supply nuclear fuel, and it will be left for three months. Collapse, in a word. And in this situation, rely on the fact that Ukrainian enterprises will work like clockwork? recourse
    1. Lelek
      Lelek 21 March 2014 13: 19
      +6
      Plus, an unbearable external debt, part of which Russia will require to pay off in the near future. Plus, an increase in taxes and the abolition of benefits, as a condition of the European Union. Plus cordons for Ukrainian agricultural products (in the west, there is already a balance and extra players do not need them). Something like that. fool
    2. inkass_98
      inkass_98 21 March 2014 13: 41
      +1
      Quote: a52333
      Problems will arise earlier, gas prices will change — don’t even go to grandmas, NPPs will stand up

      After all, they announced that the freebie is over, now the gas will be at the new (old) price. And with fuel for nuclear power plants, it is generally a disaster, tk. bourgeois (Merkos, Westinghouse tried to supply its own) does not fit, there are malfunctions and interruptions in the operation of equipment.
      Gloating is not good, but it turned out that way. And the components for military equipment should have their own, it is not for nothing that the issue of replacing the MAZ chassis with the KAMAZ is being considered, despite friendship and cooperation. And here the question is not the chassis, but aircraft engines.
  14. Berkut-UA
    Berkut-UA 21 March 2014 12: 17
    +5
    Quote: Lantau
    Enterprises of the Ukrainian “defense industry” may find themselves in a very difficult social situation if Ukraine refuses to cooperate with Russia in the field of military-technical cooperation (MTC).

    All this is sad. As I understand it, these enterprises are in Eastern Ukraine, and these are the regions that feed the whole of Ukraine. So there will be nothing good.

    But Ukraine has been warned about this for a long time.
    But the oligarchs and Yanyk tried to grab as much as possible
    ... and there will be, that will be
    I agree, VERY sad.
    1. Setrac
      Setrac 21 March 2014 13: 44
      0
      Quote: Berkut-UA
      But the oligarchs and Yanyk tried to grab as much as possible

      Prior to this, the previous politicians, orange ones, brought Yanukovych IT got into the burden on the presidential chair.
  15. skyil
    skyil 21 March 2014 12: 18
    +3
    In this case, you will not envy the southeast, he feeds the entire western riffraff and again all the stones at him; most likely he will not do without a citizen, as if he did not want the GDP, it’s a pity!
    1. Arhj
      Arhj 21 March 2014 13: 34
      +2
      Of course, you won’t envy the Southeast, but let's face it. Once again, the Southeast allowed itself to do with itself what was done to it. Yes, there is an active population, but it is clearly in the minority. And most of those who disagree simply reconciled once again.
      I have a very good attitude towards Ukrainians and, unlike many of them, do not suffer from "Ukrainophobia". We were not taught this. But she's a shame. This is to what extent people need to be lowered so that they finally begin to fight for themselves.
      Crimea fought and won. The southeast today snaps at best.
  16. Sergg
    Sergg 21 March 2014 12: 19
    +8
    With the closure of factories in eastern Ukraine, people will have much more free time to complain about Bandera Kiev. I hope that the referendum in Donbas on independence is not far off.
  17. diff
    diff 21 March 2014 12: 19
    +2
    Our industry, in the case of the military-industrial complex, must have spare capacities. During the Second World War, Germany has already taught us this. Fortunately, the government had a plan to evacuate the factories. Today we have both raw materials and people willing to work, and the land, our Siberia, is a great opportunity to build powerful "flint valleys" there. Moreover, we still have to build if we want to be truly free and truly democratic.
  18. Hans51
    Hans51 21 March 2014 12: 19
    +12
    Ukrainian defense industry Turchinova
  19. podpolkovnik
    podpolkovnik 21 March 2014 12: 22
    +16
    Deep modernization of the tank "Oplot" in action.
  20. Gagarin
    Gagarin 21 March 2014 12: 24
    +7
    The bullseye ripens and pours.
    Soon it will fall.
    Only themselves are to blame!
  21. sinukvl
    sinukvl 21 March 2014 12: 38
    +5
    Yes, nothing good is waiting. What did not fall apart in 20 years will fall apart for this year, that's all. But it’s a pity, because good plants were once.
  22. konvalval
    konvalval 21 March 2014 12: 38
    +2
    Attach it to our enterprises. Rogozin will deal with her.
  23. Hans51
    Hans51 21 March 2014 12: 44
    +2
    Maydan Cheburator
  24. mabuta
    mabuta 21 March 2014 12: 47
    +1
    I don’t even know what will happen. It was only in Yeisk that the "Thread" was built, as the Sevastopolskaya returned. So the motor plant was built near St. Petersburg, "Motor Sich" will return. Faster.
    1. inkass_98
      inkass_98 21 March 2014 13: 46
      +1
      The trend is positive. The main thing is that you can't build a maidan for yourself, it's better to send our belolentochniks there, just make a small inconspicuous inscription on the forehead in red indelible fluorescent paints with letters 3-5 centimeters in size "MOSKA.L."
  25. individual
    individual 21 March 2014 12: 49
    +4
    Kiev's hunveibins will do anything, even to the detriment of the employment of the workers of Yuzh-Mash for the sake of Russia's harmfulness.
    This of course will aggravate the situation of the central authorities and the South-East of Ukraine.
    If the unemployed working Ukraine rises, it will sweep away the right and left and any sector, but this is again time.
    But Russia already needs to undertake an emergency import-substituting production program - this is a big task and this also takes time.
    In Crimea, an ideal showcase society should be organized, a role model so that everyone sees from Istanbul to Barnaul how to live and work in Russia!
  26. serega.fedotov
    serega.fedotov 21 March 2014 12: 49
    +2
    On the one hand, Ukrainian military imports are not really needed, on the other hand, mostly Russians work there, and now it’s hard for them.
  27. x.andvlad
    x.andvlad 21 March 2014 12: 55
    +3
    Russian production, this situation may push to the creation of import-substituting capacities ”
    "There is a silver lining".
    An extra reason to develop their industry and economic independence. And this applies not only to the defense industry in the light of possible sanctions.
  28. Cristall
    Cristall 21 March 2014 13: 05
    +2
    yes maydanutye with pleasure will do everything to substitute SE. That was the order. The sanctions of the Russian Federation to Ukraine are factories and workers of SE, refusal to purchase products of Ukraine is all the same SE, blocking the borders of goods-business of SE ... here they are, and let's argue with them. They themselves are buying in Poland ..
    and you joyfully --- they’ll get hungry and they will sweep away ... They will not sweep away ... everyone will close, the hungry will leave / die .. they will now hate the Russian Federation for sure. The whole country will be united with the memory .. but they will not sweep away anything ..
    few examples in the world? Did the Baltic dying dare something?
    So here - they will destroy the country, make it all Russophobic --- destroy everything that is of interest to the Russian Federation - and no one will need it, the Russian Federation ...
    the principle the worse the better - does not work in conditions of info war.
  29. Lelek
    Lelek 21 March 2014 13: 05
    +4
    The Ukrainian defense industry, as well as the entire industry and partly the agricultural sector, is a whistle. Sorry for the people. Millions will suffer. And some will beat the moshna. This is the result of inaction of the healthy forces of Ukraine, or unwillingness to get involved in a fight. Well - breathe deeper. stop
  30. kelevra
    kelevra 21 March 2014 13: 11
    +2
    Over the past two years, we have transferred our needs for engines for airplanes and other areas to our industrial facilities, so the dependence on Ukrainian enterprises is now not so big.
  31. made13
    made13 21 March 2014 13: 17
    +1
    If you want to eat, the specialists will move, and the equipment will be smuggled.
    1. Arhj
      Arhj 21 March 2014 13: 39
      +2
      The main thing is people. Russia needs specialists. We have not had any special problems with equipment lately. And there is no certainty about the value of equipment of Ukrainian enterprises. Attitude to the defense industry in Ukraine was no better than to the army.
  32. johnsnz
    johnsnz 21 March 2014 13: 22
    +3
    Yes, the dilemma is to finance the defense industry, whose products can be used against you
  33. Zomanus
    Zomanus 21 March 2014 13: 44
    +2
    In the defense industry of Ukraine, in any case, you need to put an end to it. Either she will die without orders and gas, or she will become Russian. I personally would have said something to buy from them. For sabotage may well be. Something will break in the engine and that's all ...
  34. So_o_tozh
    So_o_tozh 21 March 2014 13: 54
    0
    Yes, you are already sick of the southeast, write all over Ukraine right away, anyway, we have the power in our possession ... sys, and pipes run through the West, so you will have to connect them too.
  35. Manager
    Manager 21 March 2014 14: 33
    +1
    Waiting for the Russian defense industry laughing
  36. sv68
    sv68 21 March 2014 15: 17
    0
    Said famously there will be no good. So you need to close the gaps with your workings out with this ukroin authority Russia can easily forget about any contracts for our army. And then the principle of not rubbing so much into ukroin began to dominate everything
  37. Megatron
    Megatron 21 March 2014 17: 59
    0
    YES it’s time to just pick up these enterprises, along with the whole Southeast.
  38. Leshka
    Leshka 21 March 2014 18: 14
    0
    made sure laughing