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Viking descendants

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Viking descendantsThe nature of Norway’s direct threats and its vital national interests changed after the end of the Cold War. Currently, security is aimed at preserving the territorial integrity of the state and protecting against external threats. Therefore, the Norwegian government decided on the participation of the country's armed forces in multinational operations that are vital to the national interests of this Scandinavian country. In one of his speeches, the Norwegian Defense Minister stressed that the Norwegian special operations forces (NORSOF) will continue to play an important role in future multinational conflicts outside the country.


Participation in hostilities in Afghanistan has given the target group of Norwegian special forces considerable experience, especially since it has contributed significantly to a number of special operations carried out by coalition forces. According to General John Wright, the Deputy Supreme Commander of the combined NATO forces in Europe, the task force of the Norwegian special forces operating in Kabul and the surrounding provinces has established itself from the best side. From March 2007 of the year — the moment it began its use — the group performed operational control tasks in the interests of the command of the international security forces (ISAF). The Norwegians have shown themselves to be strong professionals and have earned the great respect of both colleagues and senior commanders from ISAF.

Defensive strategy involves the preventive use of armed forces outside the country. In this regard, the Norwegian Defense Forces are a strategic tool for ensuring the security of the state.
Norway recognizes the world leadership of the United Nations in matters of the legal provision of peace, security and stability and believes that it is the only international organization capable of using the whole range of means and methods of conflict resolution. They include humanitarian, diplomatic, economic, informational and military means and methods used in accordance with the directives of the UN Security Council.

In addition, Norway is an active member of NATO. The fundamental principle of ensuring the collective security of the member countries of the alliance in attacking any of them is the guarantee of receiving support from the allies in the bloc. Norway also sees NATO as an important tool for supporting transatlantic security cooperation to ensure stability in the world in general and in the northern region in particular. Although Norway is not a member of the European Union, it cooperates and closely coordinates its activities with the European Defense Agency.

In addition, Scandinavian countries, the Netherlands, the United Kingdom and the United States of America are particularly important cooperation partners for Norway.

Creation and development of special forces

Norwegian special forces lead their history since the Second World War. At that time, small special units were formed in Great Britain that underwent comprehensive sabotage and reconnaissance training. The main tasks of these special divisions were to conduct special operations and sabotage on important infrastructure objects occupied by the Nazis in Norway, which are of great strategic importance. They managed to carry out a number of successful operations, among which the most important and effective is the raid and the destruction of the heavy water plant in Rükan. After World War II, special forces were disbanded.

Approximately 15 years later, the cold war between East and West, which caused an increase in tensions and external threats to Norway and NATO, led to the restoration of the Norwegian special forces.

The country's military leadership decided to form two relatively small special forces: Marinejegerlaget - on navy and Haerens Fallskjermjegerskole in the army. In connection with the threat of invasion of the Soviet Union and its allies, the main task of these units was to conduct deep intelligence. During the Cold War, both special forces gradually developed, increasing their combat potential and strength. Due to the increase in oil and gas production on the continental shelf and the increase in the construction of oil platforms in the North Sea in 1981, the counter-terrorism unit Forsvarets spesialkommando (FSK) was created as part of the army special forces unit (Haerens Jegerskole).
This new group was created in order to reliably protect Norway’s vulnerable oil platforms from the threat of terrorist acts. Therefore, special training special forces and its tasks until the mid-nineties were aimed almost exclusively at ensuring internal security.

In 1991, the Marine Special Forces Marinejegerlaget (MJL) was renamed Marinejegerkommandoen (MJK).

After the end of the Cold War, a discussion began about the place and role of special units in Norway. Despite the reform and optimization of many departments in the period 1993 – 2000. the reforms did not touch the special forces. Land special forces were not touched, because there were no other units in the country to combat the terrorist threat, and the naval special forces, because of their small number, had a very modest budget and did not allow for significant savings in military spending while reducing it. Therefore, special forces did not suffer, and even, on the contrary, during this period received a new development. After 1995, special forces, in addition to conducting internal operations, became involved in international operations. During the conflict in the Balkans, politicians decided to deploy special task forces of both special forces as part of multinational forces in the NATO area of ​​responsibility outside the country. This has led to further strengthening the capabilities of the units, improving the organizational structure and training system to perform a range of special tasks.

Major transformations fell on 1997 year. This year, Norway's land special forces - Haerens Fallskjermjegerskole (HJS) was also renamed and became known as Haerens Jegerkommando (HJK). The number of permanent members of the unit was 90 people, but in the case of mobilization, it could be brought to 210 people. In the same year, the rangers headquarters were transferred to the army camp in Rene near Osterdalen.

In 1997, the number of Norwegian naval special forces by peacetime state was 40 people of a permanent composition and 160 people in wartime states.

The current abbreviation NORSOF, obtained with the abbreviation of Norwegian Special Operations Forces, which denotes a combination of land-based marine special forces, was first used during the operation in Afghanistan in 2001 – 2002.

In 2006, HJK was officially renamed Fosvarets Spesialkommando / Haerens Jegerkommando (FSK / HJK).
Over the past 15 years, Norwegian special forces have received a lot of support from the government of Norway. Due to this, NORSOF is currently capable of conducting the whole range of special operations, including the entire range of counterinsurgency (COIN) actions.

Structure of special forces

The Norwegian special forces currently consist of three tactical units. This is the command of the special operations of the Norwegian Army (Norwegian Army Special Operations Commando - NORASOC), the command of the special operations of the Norwegian Navy (Norwegian Navy Special Operations Commando - NORNAVSOC) and the 137 air wing, formed as part of the Norwegian Air Force.
NORASOC is the largest division with a regimental structure.

It consists of a headquarters and several maneuverable squadrons. The regiment also includes a squadron of combat support services and a squadron of support services.

Its training wing is fully integrated into the regiment and is responsible for the basic training of operators and the improvement of their skills. In addition, NORASOC is still responsible for counter-terrorism tasks within the country. They focus on the implementation of a program to support the police and the Ministry of Justice to combat terrorism at sea.

The organizational structure of NORNAVSOC also includes maneuverable units, combat support services and logistics support services. During several operations in Afghanistan, NORNAVSOC, together with NORASOC, was part of a special-purpose tactical task force.

Aviation the special forces component is represented by the 137th air wing, which includes 12 transport helicopters. This specially trained helicopter unit is designed to support the special forces of the army and navy during special operations both on the territory of the country and abroad.

In peacetime, special units are subordinate to the relevant types of armed forces, which are responsible for providing resources and funding for these units. When it is necessary to use units during operations on the territory of Norway, the special forces come under operational control to the head of defense or to the commander of the national operational headquarters.

Tasks and their contents

There are five tasks for the Norwegian special forces: special reconnaissance and surveillance, offensive operations, military assistance, special aviation operations, and counter-terrorism operations.

Special intelligence and surveillance are conducted to collect high-value information, which is then used in the planning and decision-making process.

Offensive operations include raids and attacking actions with the use of fire impact. Such operations may also include fire support in the course of enemy fire resistance, which is carried out both from the ground and from the sea or from oil platforms.

Military assistance includes cooperation with allies or other friendly forces. It includes the deployment of guerrilla actions, training, support and, possibly, leadership of resistance or guerrilla forces. In addition, military assistance contributes greatly to a wide range of stabilization operations. These include activities for maintaining relations between the parties to the conflict.

Special air operations are conducted by aviation units that are staffed with personnel who have undergone special training and are armed with special equipment. They can act independently or in conjunction with other parts. In the event of a shortage of resources, special air operations can also be conducted by conventional air offices.

Operations against terrorism are offensive in nature and are carried out in the national interests or the interests of the allies in order to reduce the vulnerability of their forces, personnel and property to terrorist attacks. They include the release of hostages.

One of the main current tasks of the Norwegian special forces is to maintain and develop their own capabilities in solving these problems. It will be of particular importance for achieving the maximum strategic and operational effect in future complex and unpredictable, including counterinsurgency, operations that require comprehensive military capabilities and considerable flexibility from special forces.

Experience of application

Based on the experience and knowledge gained from previous operations, the Norwegian special forces conducted a number of special operations. Before 2002, he participated in the NATO mission in Bosnia and Herzegovina, Kosovo and Macedonia. Since 2001, the special forces have been included in the forces participating in Operation Enduring Freedom and the NATO ISAF mission in Afghanistan.

During the period from 1995 to 2008, the Norwegian special forces gained a wealth of experience and learned many useful lessons. A small contingent took part in the operation in the Balkans, which made several combat exits, mainly for conducting special reconnaissance. After that, the units gradually improved their skills to participate in more complex activities. Due to the fact that the military and political leadership of Norway has increased funding for special forces, he was able to develop its capabilities, and now the NORSOF units are able to solve the whole range of special tasks anywhere at any time. This is exactly what the special task force currently deployed in Afghanistan is doing.
Some believed that after the first months of successful struggle against the Taliban, the desired victory would soon be achieved. This assessment was far from the true state of affairs. The West once again greatly underestimated the role of the local population. Therefore, during the deployment of the Norwegian special forces in Afghanistan in 2005, we had to admit that the rebel activities were growing and the local population was too scared and not ready to cooperate and interact with the ISAF troops. However, soon the emphasis in the conduct of hostilities was shifted from large-scale offensive operations towards the so-called counter-insurgency. Among other things, the task of nation-building was defined as one of the main tasks. Attracting public sympathy and assistance to the government of Afghanistan eventually became the focus of campaign leaders.

This conceptual shift showed that the tasks of providing military assistance became more important, as a result of which the support and training of the Afghan security forces was increased. The Allies also met with formal and informal leaders, enforced national elections and provided medical assistance to the local population.

All this has strengthened the confidence of the local population and ultimately inspired hope for a positive future. The lesson learned in carrying out these complex and demanding tasks was very useful for special forces, since it clearly showed that in order to achieve success, special forces units must be flexible and able to quickly redirect their activities. And the fact that the Norwegian special forces had good results was of great importance for the development of new opportunities in order to create a concept that will respond to future challenges in the fight against insurgents in an unpredictable world.

Strengthening the role of intelligence

In order to conduct an effective special operation, comprehensive intelligence support and the availability of a reliable integrated intelligence structure are key to success.

The need for timely, accurate and reliable information and the ability to verify intelligence is crucial for the planning and implementation of special intelligence, military assistance or offensive operations against rebel groups or personnel of the enemy. The lessons learned from operations in Afghanistan show that the Norwegian special forces need to strengthen and further develop the organization of intelligence. Special attention should be focused on the development of its own intelligence capabilities, radio and radio intelligence and aerospace intelligence, which are very important for a successful fight against the rebels. The Norwegian military should step up cooperation with strategic intelligence services and continue to actively use strategic intelligence equipment.

Interaction

When conducting counter-insurgency operations in a foreign territory, it is very important to work closely with the security forces of the host country, organizing cooperation not only with the armed forces, but also with the security forces of other ministries, such as the Ministry of the Interior. Often, the main purpose of a special forces may be to train these units and help develop their capabilities so that they can ultimately use their own potential to ensure national security. It is logical that, at the initial stage, the task of providing military assistance may consist in conducting joint operations with national security forces with a gradual expansion of their duties.

In 2007, the Norwegian special forces launched an important project to train the Afghan police in the Kabul region, which may have had a much more positive effect than doing special intelligence or offensive operations. Some critics argue that nation-building should not be organized and carried out by the military. However, at that time there were no other organizations or countries that were willing or able to perform this task. Current operations trends in Iraq and Afghanistan show that military units in future operations should still be able to perform the tasks of nation-building, which are usually performed by the State Department and the Ministry of Justice. Thus, the Norwegian Ministry of Defense should continue to provide military assistance in training and cooperation with their special forces and tactical units to assist in the preparation of their tasks.

The participation of special forces in multinational counter-insurgency operations is just one of many ways to solve problems that are under the authority of the commander of multinational forces. Full cooperation with conventional units, air assets, local forces and civilian institutions is crucial for constructive action and progress during the campaign. Therefore, the Norwegian special forces must master the skills of the whole range of cooperation and coordination.

Future Tactical Task Force

At present, the Norwegian special forces consist of units of the army, navy and air force. In the past ten years, Norway has radically changed the priority towards the development and application of NORSOF and increased the capabilities of special forces. NATO lacks strength; coalition forces also lack air assets of direct support during special operations. On this basis, Norway has established a helicopter squadron, whose personnel has been trained and equipped to support the conduct of special operations abroad.

However, this unit has not yet become part of the Norwegian task force for special operations in Afghanistan. The operational needs of action in Afghanistan require the participation of a special forces air force unit with valuable capabilities. The work of this unit should strengthen the capabilities of the Norwegian special forces in solving an even wider range of tasks. As a result, the helicopter squadron should acquire extensive experience in conducting complex special operations abroad. The integrated terminal of special-purpose air controllers usually works with F-16 fighter squadrons, since their equipment is fully compatible. In this regard, squadrons of the F-16 Norwegian Air Force can be deployed to participate in special operations of the national task force. The use of F-16 will not only increase the fire capabilities in the offensive operation, but also expand the capabilities of the aerial reconnaissance that is required in counterinsurgency operations.

In the last decade, the Norwegian special forces have evolved from strategic forces, which were previously aimed at solving domestic counter-terrorism tasks and ensuring national security, into forces that carry out complex operations abroad. The Norwegian politicians and the Ministry of Defense have increased resources and increased the priority of the special forces, which has led to their increased capabilities. The comprehensive lesson learned over the past seven years of participation in operations in Afghanistan has proven to be very constructive for the development of the entire Norwegian special forces.

During the special operations in Afghanistan, the objectives were achieved, which allowed the military leadership of the coalition forces to give positive feedback on the activities of NORSOF and recognize their participation in the operation as very tangible and important. Norwegian political leaders have said that special forces will remain one of the most significant forces that Norway intends to send to participate in the multinational operations of the future. In the medium term, Norway will continue to conduct operations to support the Afghan government, taking part in the ISAF mission. In addition, it is important for the Norwegian special forces to maintain and improve their capabilities and to further develop new useful concepts that will be crucial for achieving the strategic and operational goals in the future complex of counterterrorism operations.
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  1. Tartary
    Tartary April 13 2013 09: 54
    +8
    Judging by what the Russian emigrants write about this country, who fled from the lawlessness of the Norwegian homosexual and pedophilia, the article about their special forces here on the site is intended only to arouse anger.
    Their special forces are apparently even more targeted at child molestation in other countries than their civilians inside the country. Hone the special techniques of passionate lubvie for youngsters?
    It is understandable why in the article about this not a word - the Vikings after all ... am
    1. Ilyukha
      Ilyukha April 13 2013 11: 15
      -1
      In struck. "Gomosyatina" "pedophilia" and so on. Have you seen enough TV?
      Who hurts)))
      1. 11Goor11
        11Goor11 April 13 2013 11: 46
        11
        Pedophiles and homosexuals, well trained in killing, are even worse than ordinary perverts posing as "women".
        As for the Norwegian "culture", I was stunned when I found out that they have to fuck their own children as normal as we have breakfast every day. The feeling of loathing for Norway is now very persistent.
        1. Ilyukha
          Ilyukha April 13 2013 11: 48
          -4
          Are you sick along the way?
        2. Ilyukha
          Ilyukha April 13 2013 11: 52
          12 th
          Two trolls at once, whose brain can only produce "homosexual" "fuck children" "perverts".
          What else is there enough brains for?
          1. harrymur
            harrymur April 13 2013 14: 02
            16
            I live in hours from Kirkenes, most of the year I work according to their maritime rules and laws,
            they have a national problem = degeneration of the northern regions, incest is there in the order of things, the percentage of downs goes off scale, since the Vikings start somewhere from the latitude of Bergen and to the south, everything is less or less in decency standards,
            but the fact that north of bergen these are Lapps, a mixture of Sami and Norgs, there is lawlessness there, I sincerely regret them, the people themselves are responsive and open, but to be afraid of the Russians oyeeey, "good" ours were there in the war, they were allies of the fascists
            by the way, as in switzerland, all men are liable for military service, but if the brits do not come to our aid, they are not rivals, the marines and the police will "dismantle" all their might within 24-48 hours, this was the cause of the scandal a couple of years ago, some kind of theirs warrior retiree leaked the analysis to the newspaper
          2. krokodil25
            krokodil25 April 13 2013 14: 46
            +6
            Quote: Ilyukha
            Two trolls at once, whose brain can only produce "homosexual" "fuck children" "perverts".
            What else is there enough brains for?


            The shocking story told by the Russian woman Irina Bergset about strange sexual rituals in which the indigenous people of Norway involve children has received new documentary evidence. In Norway, a book was published - the accusation "Mammas svik" ("Betrayal of the Norwegian mother"), written by a girl who was sexually abused in the families of relatives from 4 to 12 years old.
            The book contains a terrible documentary simplicity by a Norwegian child about how some men and even women in the country of the “northern oil paradise” practice “exchanging” their four-year-old children for sex between relatives, the press service of the international movement “Russian Mothers” reports.
            The book “The betrayal of the Norwegian mother” (in the original “Mammas svik”), written by a girl who was sexually abused in the families of her relatives from four to twelve years old, was based on a real story from the “Alvdal case” (Alvdal - a commune in the province of Hedmark in Norway ) File-RF has already reported on this scandalous criminal case, which, like thunder, struck that part of Norwegian society that is still normal. The true tragedy of the victim is that so far few people in Norway believe that the child who is 26 years old and has suffered from "Norwegian sex" is telling the truth about the terrible incest rituals. Employees of the Norwegian child care system “Barnevarn”, who not only contributed to the sexual abuse of children from families from the “Alvdal case”, but also participated in orgies, and also covered the exchange of children between Norwegian families in sexual purposes.
            1. harrymur
              harrymur April 13 2013 15: 53
              11
              here the answer should be sought in their history, national heritage, the Vikings did not have families, wives, children, all this was common, the boy was turned into a berserker, but the fact that they are the best sailors is yes, "they were born on an ice floe" about they say
              but again, when communicating with the l / s of their coast guard and pilots, all of them are mainly from the south of Norway, they work on shifts depending on the autonomy (displacement) of the ship from 45 to 90 days, they are cool sailors that cannot be taken away, and in communication themselves (the warriors) admit that everything north of bergen-alesund is the "dark territory" of the Lapps
          3. Karlsonn
            Karlsonn April 13 2013 20: 56
            +4
            Quote: Ilyukha
            Two trolls at once, whose brain can only produce "homosexual" "fuck children" "perverts".


            if you do not know something, then do not disgrace - ask.
            1. razdva
              razdva April 14 2013 23: 37
              0
              but I see in the subject and are very knowledgeable with the topic. ask a question along the way
        3. Skunk
          Skunk April 15 2013 02: 12
          -2
          It was in the summer in the north of Norway ... A very beautiful country. Nobody fucks their children or their strangers ...
          11Goor11, you would have turned on your head before writing any kind of chukhn ...
  2. Ilyukha
    Ilyukha April 13 2013 11: 23
    +9
    No need for Norwegian special forces treats ernically.
    The nation, which appeared in the country of frozen rocks, snow, and the eternally cold sea, is by no means made up of wimps. Norwegians, by the way, are the largest in size and shoulders of the Caucasian peoples.
    Norway with a population of 4 million people has given the world so many travelers, scientists, sailors that hardly anyone can compare.
    I dealt with them at work, these men should be respected.
    Do not think about the weaknesses of their special forces.
    1. Vovka levka
      Vovka levka April 13 2013 11: 31
      -3
      I agree with you.
    2. Tartary
      Tartary April 13 2013 17: 32
      -1
      Quote: Ilyukha
      The nation, which appeared in the country of frozen rocks, snow, and the eternally cold sea, is by no means made up of wimps. Norwegians, by the way, are the largest in size and shoulders of the Caucasian peoples.
      Norway with a population of 4 million people gave the world so many travelers, scientists, sailors, th
    3. Kir
      Kir April 13 2013 18: 37
      0
      But the roots are from the region of the Caucasus, just in case they were "brought" there after long enough wanderings across Europe, where they often served as mercenaries and not so rarely exterminated others, so it is better to remain silent about the appearance.
      1. Ilyukha
        Ilyukha April 13 2013 18: 57
        0
        How would be softer)) Have you seen Caucasians and Norwegians? And what do they look like?
        1. Kir
          Kir April 13 2013 19: 04
          -1
          Imagine seeing Caucasians who don’t climb into stereotypical frames, their eyes are bright red with cornflower blue and are under 190, all the more so since the same great Norwegian T. Heyerdahl, I don’t remember the correct name of his first profession, but I remember exactly which is connected with biology, and so he and he alone did not find traces of the fact that the Norwegians have roots from the Rostov-Priazovye-Prikavkazye region.
          1. Ilyukha
            Ilyukha April 13 2013 19: 39
            +3
            Heyerdahl was often mistaken in such matters.
            He also deduced the Polynesians from Europe, only modern gene analysis excluded this.
            But atypical for the terrain types of people for Europe, the usual thing, you never know who, when, and with whom))
            1. Kir
              Kir April 13 2013 20: 01
              0
              And you will not indicate a reference to the relationship of the Polynesians with the Europeans, with regards to blood and other biological factors, here it is just T. Heyerdahl special, read the documentary report a book about his first scientific "Aku-Aku", with regard to the relationship with the Polynesians, I hardly remember the inhabitants of the southern part of the Japanese archipelago were bred, by the way Sumu itself has "Polynesian roots", what about atypical Europeans, and you will find many purebreds all over the world now? And the fact that they do not want to recognize his legacy is so understandable, it does not fit into a dogma convenient for politicians.
          2. 123dv
            123dv April 14 2013 16: 44
            -3
            The usual thing. When Noah, after the flood, dismissed the personnel on all four sides, then people began to populate the land that had opened after the flood. Then everyone went where his eyes look ....
            It is not surprising that many, very many patrimonial branches begin in the Caucasus.
            But there are other peaks on earth that have become a refuge for people at the time of the last great flood ...
            1. Kir
              Kir April 14 2013 18: 13
              0
              Do you seriously believe in this nonsense about the world? The only thing that is confirmed is that just in the period of the cataclysm in the Mediterranean region, one of the waves "discovered" America, by the way, if we take the myth about the world, then its basis is in "The Legend of Helgamesh" and that one even from earlier. and the localization of the "pier" in the region of Arabia and not Ararat. By the way, as for non-believers, it may be worth looking at the map of the currents, and then the migration routes will immediately become clear.
    4. Karlsonn
      Karlsonn April 13 2013 20: 58
      +3
      Quote: Ilyukha
      No need for Norwegian special forces treats ernically.


      no one ernically refers to the Norwegian special forces, everyone just extends from the country of Norway laughing So, let's assume you know that the Norwegian language and writing language was invented a little more than 100 years ago?
      1. fero
        fero April 14 2013 15: 30
        0
        Quote: Karlsonn

        no one ernically refers to the Norwegian special forces, everyone just extends from the country of Norway laughing So, let's assume you know that the Norwegian language and writing language was invented a little more than 100 years ago?

        Another distortion of facts, if you mean "nyunoshk" (nynorsk) and "bokmall".
    5. StolzSS
      StolzSS April 15 2013 03: 53
      +1
      I live here very close by and saw their specialists live, they didn’t make a special impression, they saw them more safely and the soldiers))))
    6. Motorist
      Motorist 22 September 2013 20: 53
      0
      If only blacks and Arabs would be shown at least ONCE WHO is the master in the country.
  3. Prapor Afonya
    Prapor Afonya April 13 2013 11: 54
    +9
    Quote: Ilyukha
    No need for Norwegian special forces treats ernically.
    The nation, which appeared in the country of frozen rocks, snow, and the eternally cold sea, is by no means made up of wimps. Norwegians, by the way, are the largest in size and shoulders of the Caucasian peoples.
    Norway with a population of 4 million people has given the world so many travelers, scientists, sailors that hardly anyone can compare.
    I dealt with them at work, these men should be respected.
    Do not think about the weaknesses of their special forces.

    And Russia, damn it, is a country of ferns and bananas, in general, the whole world will spoil us with permafrost!
    1. Ilyukha
      Ilyukha April 13 2013 11: 57
      -7
      So what? The meaning of the phrase is unclear.
    2. lilit.193
      lilit.193 April 13 2013 12: 32
      +9
      Quote: Prapor Afonya
      And Russia, damn it, is a country of ferns and bananas, in general, the whole world will spoil us with permafrost!

      goodClass !!! And we also have bears walking in the streets. And we drink vodka in buckets. And we all have a bite of pickles, even champagne. laughing
      1. 73petia
        73petia April 14 2013 05: 06
        0
        Vodka buckets directly from the samovar!
      2. Raiven
        Raiven April 25 2013 14: 58
        0
        bears on the street is a sign of good ecology laughing
  4. lilit.193
    lilit.193 April 13 2013 12: 20
    +8
    Oh! What kind of Vikings are there for the couple! I also fighters and men. The parliament will pass a law that urinates in the toilet should be sitting and they will write while sitting. As in Sweden they did it. There, too, like the Vikings. wink
  5. biglow
    biglow April 13 2013 12: 21
    10
    the Vikings in Scandinavia have probably died out, there are only non-traditional citizens and blacks mixed with Arabs laughing
  6. pinecone
    pinecone April 13 2013 14: 46
    +7
    Topic # 1 on Norwegian TV is incest, in "talk shows" they all have the same thing: about how dad and daughter, mom and son, etc. In the Norwegian parliament, questions such as "why do we have the price of a dose of heroin comparable to the price of a glass of beer" are hotly discussed, while large oil revenues have led to the almost complete disappearance of the country's rural population. In short, the descendants of the Vikings are degenerating before our eyes, and they they are being replaced by those who are usually called there with one word - "Muslims" (stress on the first syllable).
    1. Ilyukha
      Ilyukha April 13 2013 18: 53
      +1
      Every country has its own problems. In Norway, too.
      Russia is not a saint either, she worked in the organs, I remember dads were closed for raping daughters, mother for seducing boy friends of her son. Only this talk show on TV didn’t suit him, which is right.
      Our State Duma, in contrast to the Norwegian parliament, is not concerned about the issue of drugs, which is sad.
      And healthy, normal, guys we have, and in Norway.
      1. Karlsonn
        Karlsonn April 13 2013 21: 00
        +7
        Quote: Ilyukha
        And healthy, normal, guys we have, and in Norway.


        yeah Breivik !!! wassat
  7. Rubik
    Rubik April 13 2013 15: 12
    0
    It seems that most commentators are imbeciles. Why are there so few normal and adequate people?

    ps put a minus, at least we’ll estimate the approximate amount.
  8. pooop
    pooop April 13 2013 18: 45
    +2
    I didn’t subtract anything new, but for the article of the ATP
    about the state, yes there are problems everywhere, they also ...
    1. Ilyukha
      Ilyukha April 13 2013 19: 11
      0
      Yes, admit the article is weak, few in the case.
      You can add that in Norway, special forces English regularly trains to practice operations in the Arctic.
      And Norway is a good country. Amundsen and many lesser-known polar explorers, the physicist Niels Bohr (without him would not have made an atomic bomb), the pioneer of America in the 11th century Eric Ryzhiy (officially recognized in the USA and Canada) - everything from there.
      Have you seen enough of televisions and remember only perverts.
      1. Kir
        Kir April 13 2013 19: 51
        0
        Again bloopers, America was "discovered" by immigrants from the North Africa-Mediterranean region, and it was in two waves 3 thousand years BC. and about 1 millennium BC, and some of them received the name Almoteki, by the way, the so-called Mayan calendar is also from them, arshhitecture is a kind of zekurats, etc. and the like. And the "indigenous" themselves are indigenous from Our Siberia, again I refer you to the legacy left by the great Norwegian T. Heyerdahl. By the way, you are not surprised by that fact. that the Indians are from that part. where did the Vikings not get, met the Spaniards as returning Gods? Look at the stone statues, what anthropotypes are there? And by the way, what did you forget to mention the Great F. Nansen?
      2. Karlsonn
        Karlsonn April 13 2013 21: 04
        +3
        Quote: Ilyukha
        And Norway is a good country.
        only from the moment they found oil on its territory, as well as a poor, uneducated, clogged province.


        Quote: Ilyukha
        discoverer of America in the 11th century Eric Red


        Well Vikers 200 years old so what? neither cultural, nor political, nor economic heritage was left.
      3. cherkas.oe
        cherkas.oe April 14 2013 02: 29
        +1
        Quote: Ilyukha
        America's pioneer in the 11th century, Eric the Red (officially recognized in the US and Canada), all from there.

        It’s you who have seen enough of the television set and have heard enough of the Soros enlighteners .-----
  9. lazy
    lazy April 13 2013 20: 36
    +1
    I don’t understand, where does the Norwegian special forces and our TV, our TV generally need to watch less, and especially listen to the offended mother, I’m used to that even if our wife is completely drunk and fucking, they’ll leave her with a divorce, and then she’ll all muzzle, now she doesn’t make such a thing if only they left her children. Nefig was on the side to look for paradise, in Russia she would have lived for a Russian peasant. And the Norwegians were a serious people and an ally of the Germans, in fact they were occupied, learn history
    1. Karlsonn
      Karlsonn April 13 2013 21: 13
      +6
      Quote: lazy
      our tv generally needs to be watched less, and especially to listen to the offended mother,

      when the juveniles come for your child, let’s see what you say.

      Quote: lazy
      And the Norwegians were a serious people and the Germans were not an ally, in fact, they were occupied, learn history


      If you do not know something, then do not disgrace --- ask bully .

      What do you know about Vidkun Quisling (Vidkun Abraham Lauritz Jonssøn Quisling, 1887-1945)?

      What do you know about the Norwegian Legion or the volunteer legion of the SS Norway?
      What do you know about the 5th SS Viking Panzer Division?

      on the picture:

      A unit from the volunteer legion "Norway" on the march while studying in Germany before being sent to the Eastern Front.
    2. Mikhado
      Mikhado April 14 2013 00: 02
      +4
      Quote: lazy
      And the Norwegians were a serious people and the Germans were not an ally, in fact, they were occupied, learn history

      Oga, the whole oyropa of the poor, unhappy occupied created national SS units and fought with the "red barbarians" in the east.
      About Norway - it’s a pity for the few normal people that still remained there, for a short while they already had tolerasts ...
      Ah-ha, I respect it very much, the country is beautiful, but I feel a heartbeat fast to them (((
      1. Apollo
        Apollo April 14 2013 00: 24
        +5
        Quote: Mikhado
        About Norway - it’s a pity for the few normal people that still remained there, for a short while they already had tolerasts ...



        In Oslo, a children's gay festival was held, the main contingent of spectators were children. The festival was held in support of a whole study on the issue of child homosexuality and the fact that it is "completely normal."

        In fact, this festival was of a propaganda nature, not only among adults, but among children. The children's song “Two Dads” from this holiday was posted on Youtube with the Russian subtitle translation. Http://the-day-x.ru/detskij-gej-festival-v-stolice-norvegii.h
        tml # more-36256

        1. Mikhado
          Mikhado April 14 2013 01: 28
          +6
          Quote: Apollon
          Oslo hosted a children's gay festival

          Well, who blathers there that nonsense?
          Our aunt may have exaggerated something in her stories, but that does not change the vile essence.
          Beyond the border is just ...
          And about their army - a joke from an anecdote about antiquity and real fighting um ... GEEV will play, I smell, with new colors of all colors of the rainbow - as on the famous flag ... not even funnysad
        2. Ilyukha
          Ilyukha April 16 2013 15: 10
          0
          This is a pan-European brain disease, not a single Norway. Nobody knows how to treat it.
          1. Kir
            Kir April 16 2013 17: 20
            0
            By the way, the most paradoxical is that societies of general licentiousness are now thriving where previously there were some of the most hypocritical and intolerant societies, in the same Netherlands and Denmark, lesbians were almost executed in public at one time, and somewhere they hung on bridges. And many perversions are treated. cruelly and corny wars and pestilence epidemics.
          2. Raiven
            Raiven April 25 2013 15: 02
            0
            The Germans in the 30s then knew how to treat wassat shooting dovecote
      2. Raiven
        Raiven April 25 2013 15: 01
        0
        only here are the punishers of Ukrainians, Russians, Belarusians, Latvians and so on. do not forget . Traitors and we have enough
  10. tracer
    tracer April 14 2013 03: 33
    +3
    And for the attentive .. In all the photos of the brave heroes with "trunks, something is not right. In the first photo there is a red plug in the svol, on the second there is a red nozzle, on the third there is a machine-gun belt with red cartridges. So stylish ... Such" cute " .. This is probably what would recognize their own. I think in case of something serious they have pink camouflages.
    1. fero
      fero April 14 2013 15: 37
      +1
      Elements of safety during exercises and nothing more.
  11. ed65b
    ed65b April 14 2013 11: 06
    +2
    The picnic helmets in the last photo, there are some stubs for horns that are probably removable for different sizes of branching.)))))
  12. knn54
    knn54 April 14 2013 12: 57
    +2
    A friend in the 90s worked in Sweden and Norway. From the latter he brought out one negative-closed, greedy and impudent.
    PS Thanks to the agreement signed by Medvedev, the Russian Federation recognized the full sovereignty of the Norwegians over Svalbard. Now these misfortunes felt like masters of the situation. They pursue Russian fishermen in the waters around the archipelago, under far-fetched occasions impede the activities of the Arctic.
    The powers that be have forgotten that Grumant in time immemorial mastered the Pomors and the Vikings did not smell there!
    And strengthening their special forces, the Norwegians will not stop, given that the hydrocarbon reserves in the North Sea are running out. And until they get to the full, as in the 20s, these jackals of the northern seas will not calm down!
    PPS In Russia, international law takes precedence over its own. And in Norway there is the so-called Western legal style, which puts its laws higher than international ones. Finding a compromise will be very difficult.
    1. Ilyukha
      Ilyukha April 16 2013 19: 48
      +2
      All right, they are closed (self-sufficient, that is, they don’t go to anyone with all sorts of crap), greedy (they cherish the acquired, because it’s hard in the north), impudent (I don’t like other freeloaders), and I respect them.
  13. Mikhail3
    Mikhail3 April 14 2013 13: 34
    +1
    Is that what they call themselves, they say, "descendants of the Vikings" ?! Something seems to me, in the military unit, proudly called "chikatilo children", we will not have a competition laughing Although, progress is evident. So they write directly - they showed themselves well in guarding drug caravans ... it's even somehow strange. The Vikings then threw the loot and scrupulously draped when at least a pair of armed opponents appeared. So they twisted, twisted ... True, perhaps this is because they are not so afraid of civilians. This is from the soldiers, no matter how large, whole Norman fleets wholeheartedly fleeing ...
  14. Mister X
    Mister X April 15 2013 15: 31
    +1
    The readers were so irritated by the first comment on the article,
    that everyone else did,
    that added new replicas and details to it.

    Sayings accumulated on 3 sheets, and all about incest, etc.
    Thanks to the authors for a curious article!
  15. Ilyukha
    Ilyukha April 16 2013 19: 41
    0
    Quote: Mister X
    The readers were so irritated by the first comment on the article,
    that everyone else did,
    that added new replicas and details to it.

    Sayings accumulated on 3 sheets, and all about incest, etc.
    Thanks to the authors for a curious article!

    Eh, everything went wrong .. It was a good topic for Norway and the people there.
    And the anxious ones translated everything into perversions. To see, only discussions of such garbage makes them men in their eyes. It’s sad ...
  16. Ilyukha
    Ilyukha April 16 2013 19: 50
    0
    And preoccupied translated everything into perversions. To see, only discussion of such garbage makes them men in their eyes. It’s sad ... [/ quote]
    And here is another problematic zaminusil)) Well, at least show up, justify, if the man)))
  17. Ilyukha
    Ilyukha April 16 2013 19: 57
    +1
    Quote: Skunk
    It was in the summer in the north of Norway ... A very beautiful country. Nobody fucks their children or their strangers ...
    11Goor11, you would have turned on your head before writing any kind of chukhn ...

    As there are not enough people on the forum who have been somewhere in life themselves. And not the kitchen heroes of the Internet and TV.
    Thanks for the truth.