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Journalist: Explaining the United States on the events in Ukraine is absurd

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Journalist: Explaining the United States on the events in Ukraine is absurd



Journalist and blogger Maxim Oboltusov on his Facebook analyzed the explanations of the US position, which are posted on the website of the American Embassy in Moscow, on events in Ukraine.

Recall, the US Embassy in Russia the other day published an explanation of the situation in Ukraine, in which it assures that the Agreement concluded between Viktor Yanukovych and the February 21 opposition, was the first to violate Yanukovych. “Within the framework of this agreement, the Rada adopted a law on the return of Ukraine to the Constitution of 2004 of the year. In accordance with the terms of the agreement, Yanukovych had 24 hours to sign this law, after which the protesters had to release a number of government buildings and take other steps to reduce tensions.

Instead of signing, Yanukovych left Kiev and disappeared. It was Yanukovych who failed to comply with the February 21 agreement. The party of Yanukovych also went further, voting for the law to remove him from office and approving the new government. The US Permanent Representative to the UN Power said: “It was Yanukovych who violated the terms of this agreement, having left Kiev, and then Ukraine,” the US embassy said.

Oboltusov step by step analyzed the arguments of the US Embassy and tried to prove that the opposition was the first to violate the terms of the Agreement. We present his arguments without changing their style and vocabulary.

“No, well, this is just some kind of panopticon! Quite a few thinking people put on their pages a“ masterpiece ”from the“ giants ”of legal thought from the State Department, published on the official website of the US Embassy in Russia.

No, I certainly understand that not all people have the time to meticulously understand these intricacies, but how can you take this absurdity seriously?

As I understand it, “this” should be a possible official position of the State Department in support of the Junta. Sorry. And the State Department and the junta. But the truth is more expensive, so I propose to remember. And any news feed will help us in this. For greater persuasiveness, without further ado, we can directly take their own "drain bachOk" - Ukr Pravda, because the facts are facts everywhere, albeit with "racially correct" headlines.

Let's start by simply reading the text of this agreement carefully, point by point. And now - remember the chronology of the events of February 21:

Rybak did not have time in 10: 12 to sign a decree on a cease-fire and the withdrawal of all troops to their places of permanent deployment:

As already in 10: 20 The first requirement from Yatsenyuk appears: The release of Tymoshenko. Rybak, having received such an unexpected “introductory”, wanted to announce a break to discuss actions, but the signatories of the “peace agreement” staged a fight right in parliament. And after he decided not to announce a break, a second surprise had already appeared: the demand for his and Kaletnik's immediate resignation. True while from Lyashka. It was in 10: 38.

Especially hotheads from the PR, who understand that they are simply throwing them, are even called to the parliament building of explosives with machine guns. Again - time 10: 48.

But then, someone very clever (I am ready to kiss this earth, bowing to him on the floor), realizing that there is already a war in the street, and the only important goal now is to deprive the radicals of the opportunity to fight, convinced the parliamentary majority just to vote any " new requirements-initiatives "from the" honest "signatories of the Agreement unanimously, just to not give the Sponsors of the war the opportunity to thwart the signing of this fragile saving World, under which the European Observers had to sign.

We understand why it was Germany, France, Poland and Russia that did the Weimar trio to achieve Peace. Why didn't the United States and Great Britain stand for Peace? Understand or not? I just note an important fact for understanding what was happening then - as of 13: 44 - according to Sikorsky, this Agreement has not been signed yet:

What happened behind the walls of BP? The euroministers went to “roll out” the Rada of Maidan (at least some constructive body that can be referenced), clearly explaining the prospects for not signing the Agreement (fixing the time - 15: 10).

What at this time declared those who played on the side of the War? Everything is stupid to stupidity. The curators of Yarosh did not bother much: the Right Sector stated that the Agreement with Yanukovych is “fraud”, the Revolution continues, only the resignation of the “pseudo-president” demanded the arrest of ministers, commanders of the Berkut, the ban of the Party of Regions and the Communist Party, in short, read for yourself. Control time - 15: 27.

And finally, in 15: 56 - We have a precious document that saved us all from the REAL civil war, so necessary for its sponsors here. From that moment, according to the Agreement, 48 hours should be counted, that is, to 16: 00, 23.02.2014.

But only the tasks of the group called Junta today were completely different, which is why new requirements continued to appear every ten minutes ... For example, write a separate item in the special law on returning to the Constitution of 2004 for the year to secure the authority of the current Verkhovna Rada right up to 2017 year ...

But no matter what, on 16: 53 this law was voted on by 386 with votes. How continued the parliamentary majority will be fulfilled and the remaining paragraphs of the Agreement. Already in 17: 02 - 372, voices for amnesty for all Maidan activists, and amnestied everyone and everything, even those for whom any case may be opened (unprecedented case).

Further more. The future Junta demanded the dismissal of the Minister of the Interior, and already in 18: 12, despite the legitimate argument that it is not within the competence of BP, with a legally absurd wording (and who cares about it at all in the Junta), this bill was voted on. Before Rybak closed the meeting in 19: 00 had time to vote and the release of Tymoshenko and the allocation of assistance to victims on the Maidan. And he closed the meeting at all - under the chant about the resignation of the Prosecutor General. All right, as the Agreement was set forth, right?

So, the troops withdrawn, the law voted. It seems to be the 24 hours to pass weapon and release adminzdaniya? As written in the Agreement, right? So what is the text written in the same embassy Yarosh? Yes, everything is stupid and simple as always - “Those agreements that have been reached do not correspond to our aspirations.” The Right Sector will not lay down its arms. The Right Sector will not lift the blockade of any of the state institutions until our most important thing is fulfilled. requirement - the resignation of Yanukovych. " Well, again, the arrests of the commanders of the Golden Eagle and the rest of the "constructive". That is a clear message from the Maidan scene. No Peace. Only War, only hardcore. Yarosh he is such Yarosh. Nyashka.

We read, we remember the evening of the 21 number: Yanukovych is taken to Kharkov the same evening. Where Yarosh because of the absence in Kiev of the second side for bloodshed, the soldiers of the Right Sector were sent in full maidan ammunition. Yanukovych was not allowed to the congress, because any thinking person understood that now the only formality on the path to legitimize Junta is his life. After all, it is clear to everyone today, right? The congress was condemned, all the separatists were nipped in tongues, explaining that ANY radicalization plays into the hands of the losing sponsors of the Civil War.

At night, Yarosh was clearly reminded that he forgot an important piece of text, and at four in the morning he wrote on Facebook again about the ban on the Party of Regions and the Communist Party.

On the morning of 22, at the opening of the session, Koshulinsky read out Fisherman’s and Kaletnik’s statements about the resignation of communications in connection !!! with a disease. We remember well and know that in the case of the death of the President his duties are performed by the speaker, right? So - already in 12: 30 BP votes for their resignation and election of the new speaker Turchinov:

But then - the most interesting and funny. The junta went peddling. Already in 13: 03 - some act written on the knee is voted, which bypassing the President enacts the Constitution 2004. Be sure to read this "masterpiece". At least to laugh. Obviously was written by drop-in-lawyers at the same embassy. Quote: "during 48 hours, the draft law on the renewal of the Constitution should have been voted, signed and promulgated. This means that Yanukovych was obliged to sign this bill yesterday" Logically? This is it.

We already know for sure that since the signing of the Agreement, the entire 21 hour has passed, and the following requirements have already been put forward and implemented by direct blackmail with bloodshed on the streets:

- Timoshenko released

- Powers of BP extended to 2017 year

- Minister of Internal Affairs dismissed

- Changed Speaker BP with Deputy

Well, in addition - the hunt for Yanukovych is open, many are blackmailed by relatives, beaten ... All these undoubtedly interesting details of the formation of the Junta, we will definitely find out later, but for now let us return to the chronology of events. Rada instructs Turchinov "coordinate the work" of the Cabinet. Like this? We have, if anyone does not know the three branches of government. Independent. With a frightened legislative can control the executive? .. Ah, dreamers.

"Considering the actual self-elimination of many heads of state authorities from fulfilling their powers" - what self-elimination? Time - 13: 23. Formally, just 21 an hour ago, the President signed the Peace Agreement, and is now in Kharkiv, calming the separatists ... Read this “masterpiece” as well. Hardly ever will see such "lawmaking"

The ambassador from this very embassy hurried to somehow legalize all this nonsense already in 15: 30 with greetings to the new speaker. And now for the second time attention: in 16: 17, after just 24 hours after the signing of the Agreement - we formally have a statement by the president that there is no resignation, that his car was shot, and !!! appeal to euro mediators to intervene. Because “Today deputies are beaten, stoned and intimidated at the exit of the parliament. The decisions that are now being taken (in the Rada) are all illegal.”

But at the same time, we remember that there is still a day to sign the Constitution of 2004, and it is still possible to return to the Agreement, having canceled everything that had been “nakonakonorit”. It would be the desire of the signatories. But what does the junta do in return? Already in 17: 12 - Yanukovych’s removal from the post of President of Ukraine is being voted on. And elections are scheduled for 25 May 2014. Exactly as in the Agreement, yes?

But there are still as many 23 hours to think again))) But wherever. The junta is one solid joke. Are there really serious people (except specially gifted employees of the US embassy) who believe that all this can be legally true and legal? We will continue in brief, in 17: 31 BP invented some kind of institution authorized to monitor the Security Service of Ukraine, the GPU, and the Ministry of Defense. A little earlier (we missed), she was still banned by the Prosecutor General.

And already in 19: 30, Yatsenyuk, having thought hard, issued: "according to the Constitution, now the duties of the head of state are performed by Oleksandr Turchinov". Krasava. Kindergarten. “If there is no president” is undoubtedly legally correct. Well, the curators of this idiocy in the White House !!! hurried to bless Junta. The next day, everything went wrong: they voted for the resignation of ministers in turn: Bogatyrev, Kozhara, Tabachnik ...

But what is important to us in the search for Truth: In 12: 38 Turchinov was elected Acting. the president. Let me remind you that before the expiration of 48 hours, according to the Agreement, 3,5 hours still remained. I am separately just happy with the term "elected." Elected "President". What is it like?!? In our parliament now they choose? Or choose io only? Well, then, to the heap, the language law of Kolesnichenko was abolished. And this is already similar to the initiative from the Natsik. As the first Lenin in Kiev. The curator at the embassy will not pat it. Here Turchinov and "not signed" later.

Here, in general, and all the events that occurred during those same 48 hours, allotted in the Agreement, the first item on the adoption of a single law on the return to the Constitution 2004 of the year. After that, according to paragraph 5, 24 hours were assigned for the surrender of weapons and the release of administrative buildings.

After that, there were a lot more "cheerful initiatives" from Junta, but this is not what interests us in our "Truth Detector", is it? While writing this chronopus (on the instructions of Darling, by the way) - finally sensible and finally appeared news. The State Department again gave the back and this “pseudo-legal analysis” will remain, apparently, to roll on the pages of Facebook users who repost it.

Hunt is the end. She stillborn. Was it really incomprehensible when Bulatov was appointed minister? Well, tell me, friends, do you really seriously? In the same place the key was in the very first sentence, well, how can you not notice? I quote (from the website of the US Embassy in Russia !!!):

"Statement: The opposition violated the agreement concluded with Yanukovych February 21.

Answer: Within the framework of this agreement, the Rada adopted a law on the return of Ukraine to the Constitution of 2004. In accordance with the terms of the agreement, Yanukovych had 24 hours to sign this law, after which the protesters had to release a number of government buildings and take other steps to reduce tensions. Instead of signing, Yanukovych left Kiev and disappeared. It was Yanukovych who failed to comply with the February 21 agreement. Yanukovych’s party also went further, voting for the law to remove him from office and approving the new government. ”

Did you read? Again!!! "In accordance with the terms of the agreement, Yanukovych had 24 hours to sign this law." Again!!! 24 hours. I am silent about the legal wording "disappeared" ... Questions remained? And finally, I will finish you.

With love and respect, but still. According to the Constitution of Ukraine: "The draft law on amending the Constitution of Ukraine, previously approved by a majority of the constitutional composition of the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine, is considered adopted if at least two thirds of the constitutional composition of the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine voted for it at the next regular session of the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine."

Taking into account the fact that the current session of the parliament began in February, in the case of consideration of the bill at this session, it can be adopted no earlier than September 2 of the 2014 year, that is, when the second session of the parliament begins. Otherwise, changes to the constitution can simply not be accepted. They can not, and that's it. If we completely get rid of the coils and decide to simply abolish the entire Constitution, we will still have to vote in TWO sessions. This is a fuse like that. Democratic. From the junta all. So that the Basic Law cannot be changed at the point of the automata ...

Are we still a European country or a banana republic?

Important PS I hope we all carefully watched one conversation and press conference in order to understand that Yanukovych will forever remain an instructive example of the "rat logic of life" and there will be no President at all. "
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  1. I do not care
    I do not care 7 March 2014 10: 11
    +37
    Are we still a European country or a banana republic?


    Judging by this photo, bananas are of least interest to local authorities.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 7 March 2014 10: 39
      +13
      Quote: me by
      Judging by this photo

      This photo would be sent to the German press, let the people of Germany admire democracy.
      1. VAF
        VAF 7 March 2014 10: 57
        +7
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        This photo would be sent to the German press, let the people of Germany admire democracy.


        Sanya, hello! Why again .. "half measures"?
        At any conference, Lavrov should ask Merkel a direct question ... are you mistress that you sponsor and support fascism ????
        And all ... Merkel will end as a politician right away !!! wassat
      2. zanoza
        zanoza 7 March 2014 11: 23
        +16
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        let the people of Germany admire democracy.

        Yes, on *** to them on democracy.
        Friendly support unconstitutional armed the coup in Ukraine, they (the West) once again confirmed their line of behavior: if only Russia were worse, and who came to power in Kiev is of little interest. Well, Natsik, well, banderlogs, well, they won’t see the Russians and the Russian language, BUT they want to go to Europe! It’s theirs, it’s so democratic, they are such nice guys, these radicals with weapons ...
        Yanukovych’s regime was for The West is democratic right up to the moment when it was not hindered by the signing of documents on association with the EU. Since we don’t want to drag the country to us, you are our enemy and we don’t know you, and we don’t want to know, you are not the president of Ukraine.
        It was worth Russia only to declarethat an unconstitutional armed coup took place in Ukraine and we will not allow infringing on the rights of Russians in Ukraine, and if necessary, we will send our troops to defend them - what we are now seeing is beginning: a crazy, frenzied run over us.
        Following their logic response to our statements, then we would have to inflict a pre-emptive nuclear missile strike on the United States and a number of European countries for their attempt to organize the bombing of Syria and armed intervention to protect "the Syrian people oppressed and destroyed by Assad."
        Аaggressive, all-destroying, boorish and cynical "democracy" - this is their lifestyle. Evil creatures! Ghouls!
      3. starshina78
        starshina78 7 March 2014 11: 28
        +5
        Amerikosov's eyesight is somehow strange and something is wrong with the brains! I see, I don’t see, I remember, I don’t remember! Most importantly, they see and remember what is beneficial for them, and everything else is a lie and provocation! One word - stupid people!
        1. cdrt
          cdrt 7 March 2014 13: 50
          +1
          Quote: starshina78
          Amerikosov's eyesight is somehow strange and something is wrong with the brains! I see, I don’t see, I remember, I don’t remember! Most importantly, they see and remember what is beneficial for them, and everything else is a lie and provocation! One word - stupid people!


          Americans have nothing with eyes and ears.
          There is a war of propaganda worse than in the Second World War.
          Everyone lies: the Americans, when they prove that they were 100% the will of the people, we, when there are no Tigers with our army numbers in the Crimea - that's all.
          So ... so as not to brainwash yourself, you probably need to read the smartest on all sides and make up your mind.

          By the way, in the three best (in my opinion) newspapers in the WB and the USA: the Washington Post, The New York Times, Guardian, very smart and balanced articles constantly appear. She's an article Kissinger is worth.
          And the official position of the United States - in fact, in many ways (like Putin's) it is built on domestic consumption, where you need to portray the brutal master of the world.
          In reality, there are no serious sanctions so far.
          If Russia does not insolently annex Crimea to itself (which no one in the world naturally recognizes), and confines itself to super-wide autonomy within Ukraine (albeit with a grant of the Crimean constitution from the Russian Federation), nothing will happen.
    2. Oleg Sobol
      Oleg Sobol 7 March 2014 10: 55
      +7
      Guys, I'm sorry, offtopic, but urgent infa, on the topic that we have been rising.
      Kolomoisky's "wings" were clipped !!!!

      CBR decided to reorganize Moskomprivatbank with the participation of the DIA

      10: 2607.03.2014 (updated: 10: 35 07.03.2014) 1351122
      "Moscomprivatbank continues to work as usual, all clients, including the bank's depositors, can use its services.

      MOSCOW, 7 Mar. - Prime. The Bank of Russia decided to take measures to prevent the bankruptcy of Moskomprivatbank, businessman and politician Igor Kolomoysky controlled by the Ukrainian Privatbanktransferring the functions of the interim administration to the Deposit Insurance Agency (DIA), the regulator reports.

      RIA Novosti http://ria.ru/economy/20140307/998557406.html#ixzz2vG14IbyP
      1. Alex 241
        Alex 241 7 March 2014 11: 04
        +5
        I have better news. Nearby, in the shopping center, there were two Privat Bank ATMs, a few days ago they mysteriously disappeared. Polite people in overalls were noticed.
        1. VAF
          VAF 7 March 2014 11: 19
          +5
          Quote: Alex 241
          I have better news. Nearby, in the shopping center, there were two Privat Bank ATMs, a few days ago they mysteriously disappeared. Polite people in overalls were noticed.


          laughing +! drinks And whether else will be wassat "Vova .. man and .. as we say in Rostov - handsome" !!! soldier

          And here is the news from "Kyev", the people who supported the Maydanuts unexpectedly faced a "problem" - there are no subsidized medicines .. only for money, pensions were cut in half (now either eat or pay for the hut). and the entire communal apartment is 1.5 times larger.

          everyone is in a stupor, but how to live? Answer, and you go to the Maidan, you will be "explained" there !!!

          I understand. That sarcasm and it seems to be not .. "patriotic", but reviewing the footage from the "gathering of maydanutyh" ... there are not so many Natsiks there .. basically it seems like the people of Kiev wink

          Here would be a statement from ours about the denunciation of the WTO treaty and .. my favorite topic .. "krantik .. shast"!
          And there will be .. blindness fellow

          Hi Sasha! drinks
          1. Kuvabatake
            Kuvabatake 7 March 2014 11: 52
            +2
            This is all to raise the revolutionary spirit and strengthen national identity good
          2. cdrt
            cdrt 7 March 2014 14: 05
            0
            Quote: vaf
            Quote: Alex 241
            I have better news. Nearby, in the shopping center, there were two Privat Bank ATMs, a few days ago they mysteriously disappeared. Polite people in overalls were noticed.


            laughing +! drinks And whether else will be wassat "Vova .. man and .. as we say in Rostov - handsome" !!! soldier

            And here is the news from "Kyev", the people who supported the Maydanuts unexpectedly faced a "problem" - there are no subsidized medicines .. only for money, pensions were cut in half (now either eat or pay for the hut). and the entire communal apartment is 1.5 times larger.

            everyone is in a stupor, but how to live? Answer, and you go to the Maidan, you will be "explained" there !!!

            I understand. That sarcasm and it seems to be not .. "patriotic", but reviewing the footage from the "gathering of maydanutyh" ... there are not so many Natsiks there .. basically it seems like the people of Kiev wink

            Here would be a statement from ours about the denunciation of the WTO treaty and .. my favorite topic .. "krantik .. shast"!
            And there will be .. blindness fellow

            Hi Sasha! drinks



            So that's the point. There were always few Nazis on Maidan. In fact, units. Well ... like our Barkashovites, Limonovs and other marginals.
            Ordinary people, mostly urban middle class, educated, well-off. As in any national-bourgeois revolution.
            Hence the real growth of national identity of the Maidan participants
            Well, the revolution did, in general, one good deed - the kleptocracy of Yanukovych was swept away (which is what everyone sought in general). Not a fact, for the better, but still.

            Another question is that after this there remained fighters who gained experience of confrontation with the authorities.
            And their leaders are either different ultra, or crime.
            And the new authorities - as usual, are fragmented, bickering among themselves.
            As a final argument - to distribute power to those who can control - the oligarchs.

            The next step - trying to stop the collapse of the Ukrainian army - Maidan commissioners in parts.
            In short, the logic of the revolutionary situation and civil confrontation is very similar, by the way, to the actions of the post-Favral authorities (sample 1917) in Russia.

            Well ... we also added drive.
            In fact, eliminating the power structures of Ukraine in Crimea, they ensured an explosion of separatism.

            Well, and, as a result, the Southeast has sunk.
            Although there, I am convinced, all the energy of the steam will go into a hoot (the wrong people - my hut from the edge as a national idea)
          3. Egoza
            7 March 2014 14: 19
            +1
            Quote: vaf
            And here is the news from Kyev,


            Yes, not only in Kiev ...
            In the Luhansk region complain about deductions from salaries to the Maidan fund
            Employees of SE "Pervomaiskugol" complain that they have added an extra shift to their schedule, which the mines will not pay them. The Polemik website was informed about this by the miners of the Mine Karbonit OP, which is subordinate to Pervomaiskugol. According to the miners, the money for the extra shift worked will go to the restoration of Maidan Nezalezhnosti in Kiev, as well as parts of the city that have suffered from the rallies of European integrators.
            The miners also said that earlier the mine management simply wanted to deduct 7% of the miners' salaries for restoration work in Kiev. The state enterprise "Pervomaiskugol" denied such information. "It's a lie. There are different rumors around us, but we don’t do this, ”said Anatoly Protas, deputy general director of Pervomaiskugol. He also noted that for the restoration of the Maidan, Pervomaiskugol would not even transfer charitable assistance, since the company barely has enough money to pay workers' salaries. “At least we would have enough for salaries. We have a strong underfunding from the state, ”Protas said. At the Carbonite mine, they also noted that they would not help Kiev at the expense of the workers. The sales manager of the mine, Lyudmila Shut, noted that the mine did not decide on a free shift for its employees. “We did not make such a decision. These are all rumors, ”she said.
            Also, employees of the city water channel of the village of Karbonit complain about the extra free shift. Note that the urban water channel of the village belongs to Luganskvoda. Vladimir Chernysh, an employee of the Luganskvody press service, told the polemic correspondent that this information is not true. "This is a provocation. There is no such information. “Luganskvoda” does not play political games, ”said Chernysh, while emphasizing that he did not know the motives for such a provocation.
            Source: http://polemika.com.ua/news-140666.html
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      3. vezunchik
        vezunchik 7 March 2014 11: 24
        0
        Warning bureaucratic thieves and bandits- STEEP DO NOT STEAL EVERYTHING EQUALLY GET X .....
    3. kare
      kare 7 March 2014 11: 52
      +3
      The scenario is something like this
    4. cdrt
      cdrt 7 March 2014 13: 39
      0
      Quote: me by
      Are we still a European country or a banana republic?


      Judging by this photo, bananas are of least interest to local authorities.


      With a 90% probability, the photo is a fake.
      moreover, for domestic Russian and Ukrainian use
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    1. Standard Oil
      Standard Oil 7 March 2014 10: 14
      +13
      Not necessarily what seems to us absurd and idiocy also seems to be in the West, because it is important not what happened, but how to present it.
  3. konvalval
    konvalval 7 March 2014 10: 13
    +11
    This is not absurd, but arrogant falsification in order to establish their power in Ukraine. In the barracks, Obama wants to improve his image.
    1. rasputin17
      rasputin17 7 March 2014 10: 31
      +3
      Not the image he needs to be corrected but a sore head !!
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    3. alexng
      alexng 7 March 2014 10: 39
      +2
      Quote: konvalval
      In the barracks, Obama wants to improve his image.


      No longer will he correct him, Putin will no longer help him out, pulling him out of the crap, as in the Syrian crisis. So the "snag" will soon be smeared on the wall like a dream.
    4. Tersky
      Tersky 7 March 2014 10: 56
      +5
      Quote: konvalval
      In the barracks, Obama wants to improve his image.

      Image is not that - thirst is everything. The desire to own the whole world does not come from Obama, but from those who stand behind him. Obama is only a performer of someone else's will, for his own is completely absent.
  4. pensioner
    pensioner 7 March 2014 10: 15
    +10
    US explanation on events in Ukraine is absurd
    Absurdity is the usual state of the United States and its allies (vassals). In truth: crazy with a razor in his hand ...
    1. GDP
      GDP 7 March 2014 10: 32
      +6
      In truth: crazy with a razor in his hand ...

      Oh no, the Americans are not crazy at all, they are doing everything right, solely for the sake of their interests ...
      And to achieve their goals do not disdain by any methods, for them the main result ...
      Look how successfully they create fifth columns all over the world and set nations against each other ... They use everything that can lead to schism and anarchy.
      Differences in faith, social disunity, past grievances and finally a completely pure hundred percent lie ...

      Result? - Everyone grabs hold of a saving straw - loans from the United States for the restoration of a destroyed economy and state, a bow to NATO, the sale of land, plants and resources ...
      This is how the American dream is maintained and developed ...
      1. Kuvabatake
        Kuvabatake 7 March 2014 11: 53
        +1
        It's time to learn from the experience of our Western "friends" ...
    2. shtanko.49
      shtanko.49 7 March 2014 10: 57
      +4
      To Barack Obama.
  5. Name
    Name 7 March 2014 10: 17
    +2
    The chronology of events from .. however tired. Perhaps, and:On Thursday, the Prosecutor General’s Office of Ukraine filed a lawsuit in the Kyiv District Court on declaring the decision of the Supreme Council of the Autonomous Republic of Crimea on holding a referendum belay Ouch ... did not recognize ... crying
    see http://www.mk.ru/politics/news/2014/03/07/995320-genprokuratura-ukrainyi-ospo
    rila-zakonnost-postanovlenie-vs-kryima-o-referendume.html
  6. sinukvl
    sinukvl 7 March 2014 10: 17
    +12
    The fact that insanity grows stronger in the USA is a fact, but so much so. Well, suppose Yanukovych didn’t leave, then he would be banged on the spot (a very high probability) and if you follow the logic of the United States, Yanukovych would again be guilty of breaking agreements, because he took and died, and Yanukovych did not want to sign the agreement. So what?
    1. stroporez
      stroporez 7 March 2014 10: 48
      +2
      Quote: sinukvl
      because he took and died, but didn’t want to sign an agreement to sign the spirit of Yanukovych. So what?
      -------- and then !!!!!!!!!!!!!! there the nickname is "talking" with the dead .... laughing
  7. Andrew 447
    Andrew 447 7 March 2014 10: 18
    +5
    We understand that the fascists seized power in Ukraine and many thanks to Maxim Oboltusov for such a detailed analysis. But for the rulers of the United States and the EU, it does not matter. If one of the members of the forum has a good command of foreign languages, you need to translate this article and post it on foreign resources. I read the forum on RT about opinions about talking about snipers on the Maidan, there are a lot of adequate ratings . The more truth, the more difficult it is to spread a lie.
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    2. siberalt
      siberalt 7 March 2014 10: 40
      +4
      The Russians did not forget, and the Americans made money.

      http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2014/080/eaol232.jpg
  8. Dimkin
    Dimkin 7 March 2014 10: 21
    +2
    Are we still a European country or a banana republic?

    A very precise definition for the actions of the current government in Kiev. They fought for a European country, but they acted like in a banana republic. It remains to be hoped that they will not descend into the Middle Ages, like some countries in the Middle East, after the arrival of such "democratic" figures.
  9. Gagarin
    Gagarin 7 March 2014 10: 24
    +3
    I immediately remembered the phrase from the book:
    EVERYTHING MIXED IN OBLONSKY'S HOUSE!
    (classic)
  10. Igarr
    Igarr 7 March 2014 10: 28
    +7
    Now it remains for us to launch this analysis on the Internet.
    I'll start right now.
  11. Oleg Sobol
    Oleg Sobol 7 March 2014 10: 28
    +8
    The voices for thousands of miles hurt our souls
    We do not stifle America in vain, oh, we do not crush Israel in vain,
    With all their hostile essence they undermine and harm
    They feed us, give us bermuta about the mysterious square.

    Lecturers from the program, those who are somehow
    They talk about failure and make people nervous
    Take us, doomed, triangle of you scientists
    Turns into insane, but us - on the contrary.

    Let the crazy idea, don’t cut it in haste
    Call us soon through the bastard of the head physician,
    Sincerely, date, signature, answer us, otherwise
    If you do not respond, we will write in "Sportloto"!


    Vladimir Semenovich Vysotsky.
    1. aleks700
      aleks700 7 March 2014 15: 10
      0
      Well yes. Letter from the madhouse.
  12. Monk
    Monk 7 March 2014 10: 32
    +5
    Nothing got mixed up anywhere, just the States themselves are one big Nonsense
  13. siberalt
    siberalt 7 March 2014 10: 35
    +2
    And it's even funnier that the position of the "official representative to NATO" is criticized by a blogger with the nickname Oboltusov. Here either take off the cross, or put on panties. Although his "statement" is essentially true.
  14. uhu189
    uhu189 7 March 2014 10: 35
    +1
    Judging by what is happening, the states are in a great hurry. The question is - what hurries them so that they are forced to even pass off such crude stupidity as an official statement? What should happen so soon, why would they need this nonsense ...
  15. Nikxnumx
    Nikxnumx 7 March 2014 10: 36
    +24
    America collapsed the Russian ruble by 9%. Russia smiled and raised gas prices by 9%. America is in shock, Europe is in a panic ... Russia is celebrating a carnival.
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    2. siberalt
      siberalt 7 March 2014 10: 50
      +4
      The Russian ruble is the defective "baby" of their dollar. Dangerous toys, however! hi Give the Soviet three rubles!
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      2. siberalt
        siberalt 7 March 2014 11: 02
        +4
        Something like this.
        http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2014/156/ymcq717.jpg
        1. tolancop
          tolancop 7 March 2014 16: 21
          0
          Soviet "fifty kopecks", i.e. a 50-ruble bill, it was also green.
  16. AV 587
    AV 587 7 March 2014 10: 37
    +3
    A very good article. At the very hands did not reach. Respect. I look forward to continuing.
    Particularly pleased:
    According to the Constitution of Ukraine: "A draft law on amendments to the Constitution of Ukraine, previously approved by a majority of the constitutional composition of the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine, is considered adopted if at least two-thirds of the constitutional composition of the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine voted for it at the next regular session of the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine."
  17. mountain
    mountain 7 March 2014 10: 37
    +10
    I believe that until we take a tight look at US problems on their territory and indicate our interest in democratic development and respect for human rights and the indigenous people of America, we will fight back from false accusations and attacks.
  18. s1н7т
    s1н7т 7 March 2014 10: 39
    +2
    Yeah, having such scumbags at your side is simply dangerous! When will they bang already ?! am
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  20. Yuri Y.
    Yuri Y. 7 March 2014 10: 42
    +2
    No, I certainly understand that not all people have the time to meticulously understand these intricacies, but how can you take this absurdity seriously?

    The fact is that initially adequate understood what and how the conversation. But Maxim Oboltusov is definitely a plus for meticulousness.
  21. bubla5
    bubla5 7 March 2014 10: 46
    +1
    Sick American nation
  22. loginovich
    loginovich 7 March 2014 10: 47
    +3
    Are we still a European country or a banana republic? )))))))))))))


    Taki banana, but in the zone of risky babananovanoe cultivation, unlike Africa
  23. vsdvs
    vsdvs 7 March 2014 10: 55
    0
    Nothing, and on our street the stump will burn. I really hope to see the day when the White House of arrogance and exorbitant ambitions turns into a yellow house of sorrow.
  24. major071
    major071 7 March 2014 10: 59
    +7
    Insanity grew stronger, but the mice continued to haunt the cactus
    And how can one not remind uncles from the USA about something else
    When a toilet is clogged, people often use a plunger
    And do not try to destroy the whole house for this
    1. pensioner
      pensioner 7 March 2014 11: 41
      +1
      Quote: major071
      Insanity grew stronger, but the mice continued to haunt the cactus
      And how can one not remind uncles from the USA about something else
      When a toilet is clogged, people often use a plunger
      And do not try to destroy the whole house for this

      Vova! - hi hi hi
      Quote: major071
      the mice continued to haunt the cactus

      And they still have to poop ...
      1. major071
        major071 7 March 2014 16: 34
        +6
        hi Yura!
        This is their personal sex drama. lol
        1. pensioner
          pensioner 7 March 2014 19: 23
          +1
          Eh ... you do not like animals ... request I would love, so I would sprinkle cacti with cyanide potassium ... And so ... Barbarian is straight ... recourse
  25. ZU-23
    ZU-23 7 March 2014 11: 03
    +4
    I looked at the Rada’s vote for its infinite laws, horribly stupid faces, our poor peasant Tsarev is sitting on his pins and can’t believe that this can happen, everyone really needs to be taken and taken to an exorcism session.
  26. Diesel 72
    Diesel 72 7 March 2014 11: 09
    0
    Obama climbs his ass again on a hot sovoroda again
  27. sazhka4
    sazhka4 7 March 2014 11: 13
    +2
    Patriotism begins with the Motherland. If "UAZ" calls its model "Patriot". This is Patriotism.? They forgot how to use Russian letters ..
    1. Executer
      Executer 7 March 2014 12: 08
      0
      Of course patriotism! Let those unaware of the Russian language learn the Russian word Patriot, albeit in English transcription. They don’t even have a similar word in the dictionaries ...
      1. sazhka4
        sazhka4 8 March 2014 11: 05
        0
        Quote: Executer
        Patriot, albeit in English transcription

        The fact that "with them" does not bother me much .. There are patriots always and everywhere. But giving a name to a Russian car, in foreign letters, is somehow not correct. Maybe it's better that they get used to it. We're not going to translate Chinese letters, are we?
  28. vlad.svargin
    vlad.svargin 7 March 2014 11: 17
    +3
    mountain (3)
    I believe that until we take a tight look at US problems on their territory and indicate our interest in democratic development and respect for human rights and the indigenous people of America, we will fight back from false accusations and attacks.

    Quite true. We are all the time fighting off the Anglo-Saxon propaganda machine, Valery You are right, it's time to be the first to attack the "striped peacekeepers" at every step (these steps are more often with double standards). And their "military muscle flexing" is the usual behavior of the Yankees, scare them. pay attention to it ...
  29. wax
    wax 7 March 2014 11: 17
    +3
    From the Constitution of Ukraine:

    Section III ELECTIONS. REFERENDUM
    Article 69. The expression of the will of the people through elections, referenda and other forms of direct democracy.
    Article 70. Citizens of Ukraine who have reached the age of eighteen on the day they are held have the right to vote in elections and referenda.
    Citizens recognized by a court as legally incompetent do not have voting rights.

    Section 74. A referendum is not permitted in relation to bills on tax, budget and amnesty issues,
    (Section III does not mention anywhere that the holding of referenda is necessarily determined by special law)
    (Where is it written that a referendum on self-determination is not allowed?)

    Section V PRESIDENT OF UKRAINE

    Article 108. The President of Ukraine exercises his powers until the newly elected President of Ukraine assumes office.
    The powers of the President of Ukraine terminate early in the event of:
    1) resignation;
    2) inability to exercise their powers for health reasons;
    3) post removal in impeachment order;
    Xnumx) death.
    (Where is it written that there are other ways to remove the legitimate President from fulfilling his duties?)

    Article 105. The President of Ukraine enjoys immunity at the time of the execution of powers.
    For the encroachment on the honor and dignity of the President of Ukraine, the perpetrators are brought to justice on the basis of law.
    The title of the President of Ukraine is protected by law and retained for life, unless the President of Ukraine has been removed from office by impeachment.
    (Where is the observance of the right to immunity?)


    Section XII THE CONSTITUTIONAL COURT OF UKRAINE

    Article 147. The Constitutional Court of Ukraine is the only body of constitutional jurisdiction in Ukraine.
    The Constitutional Court of Ukraine decides on the compliance of laws and other legal acts with the Constitution of Ukraine and gives an official interpretation of the Constitution of Ukraine and the laws of Ukraine.

    Article 152. Laws and other legal acts by decision of the Constitutional Court of Ukraine are recognized as unconstitutional in whole or in part if they do not comply with the Constitution of Ukraine or if the procedure established by the Constitution of Ukraine for their consideration, adoption or entry into force has been violated.
    ...
    (Where is it written that the Rada may disperse the Constitutional Court?)

    Section XIII AMENDMENT OF THE CONSTITUTION OF UKRAINE

    Article 159. A draft law on amendments to the Constitution of Ukraine is considered by the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine in the presence of an opinion of the Constitutional Court of Ukraine on the compliance of the draft law with the requirements of Articles 157 and 158 of this Constitution.
    (Where is the conclusion of the Constitutional Court on amending the Constitution?)

    United Nations Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples
    Adopted by General Assembly resolution 61/295 of 13 September 2007
    ...
    Recognizing that the Charter of the United Nations, the International Covenant on Economic, Social and Cultural Rights1 and the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights1, as well as the Vienna Declaration and Program of Action2 confirm the fundamental right of self-determination of all peoples, by virtue of which they freely establish their political status and freely carry out their economic, social and cultural development,
    ...

    US President Barack Obama received an honorary doctorate in law from Hampton University in Virginia.
    While receiving an honorary doctorate, the president jokingly said that "it cost a lot less than getting an advanced degree" from Harvard. Obama himself graduated from Harvard Law School and received his Juris Doctor degree from the University of Notre Dame in Indiana in 1991.
    Winner of the 2009 Nobel Peace Prize.

    Your deeds are wonderful, O Lord.
  30. Black
    Black 7 March 2014 11: 17
    +2
    Grandma used to say ...
    "Though s.s.y in the eyes, the dew of God will say !!!"
  31. nerzul
    nerzul 7 March 2014 11: 20
    -26%
    Professional trolls on the maintenance of ErEfni receive, as you know, 30 pieces of silver, that is, cents per post. Professional journalists (with significant names) seem to be an order of magnitude more. How much do homosexuals from the FSB cost mounted photos with Nazi banners, hell knows. There is an intense "information war" in a clumsy Soviet-KGB performance. A herd of jingoistic patriots and imperials happily support all the "good undertakings" of the Kremlin lilyPut. Come on, rejoice and be merry at the beginning of bloody changes. Let's applaud the rebuilding of the cannibalistic beast state. You will fully get drunk on forgotten Soviet realities mixed with the bloody realities of the revolutionary events of a century ago.
    1. rasputin17
      rasputin17 7 March 2014 12: 05
      +2
      In support of the existing political system and the legitimate government elected by the people, we are ready to do it for free, but for what silver coins you and your kind write such abominations, this is another question!
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    4. Mi
      Mi 7 March 2014 15: 29
      +2
      I'll see, you just did not find "Soviet realities", therefore you allow yourself to open the barker and find fault with them! Among those born in the USSR, 99% recall those times with gratitude and regret (that they have passed) !!!
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  32. AndreyS
    AndreyS 7 March 2014 11: 21
    +1
    "According to the Constitution of Ukraine:" A draft law on amending the Constitution of Ukraine, previously approved by a majority of the constitutional composition of the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine, shall be considered adopted if at least two-thirds of the constitutional composition of the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine voted for it at the next regular session of the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine. "
    Taking into account the fact that the current session of the parliament began in February, in the case of consideration of the bill at this session, it can be adopted no earlier than September 2 of the 2014 year, that is, when the second session of the parliament begins. Otherwise, changes to the constitution can simply not be accepted. They can not, and that's it. If we completely get rid of the coils and decide to simply abolish the entire Constitution, we will still have to vote in TWO sessions. This is a fuse like that. Democratic. From the junta all. So that the Basic Law cannot be changed at the point of the automata ...
    Are we a European country or a banana republic after all? "

    Bravo to the author !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  33. Aleksandr65
    Aleksandr65 7 March 2014 11: 21
    +1
    A wonderful analysis of events - everything is reasoned and laid out on shelves.
  34. sazhka4
    sazhka4 7 March 2014 11: 28
    +2
    Quote: vlad.svargin
    Quite true. We are all the time fighting off the Anglo-Saxon propaganda machine, Valery You are right, it's time to be the first to attack the "striped peacekeepers" at every step (these steps are more often with double standards). And their "military muscle flexing" is the usual behavior of the Yankees, scare them. pay attention to it ...

    I don’t care. I am Russian .. Who, what and how it thinks doesn’t matter .. The lessons of History teach nobody and nothing .. To fight like that .. Not the first time .. The consequences for homosexuals will be terrible ..
  35. musha
    musha 7 March 2014 11: 34
    0
    the author gave an excellent analysis of the facts, and the West and the EU, as always, act rudely and brazenly, making a lot of mistakes
  36. kare
    kare 7 March 2014 11: 35
    +1
    Competent article, it would be necessary to propagate. Scrupulous analysis. Routine into which we do not initially delve into
  37. vezunchik
    vezunchik 7 March 2014 11: 38
    +2
    Catherine - the wife of Pavel Gubarev, is speaking to you!
    You all already know about the treacherous detention of my husband by the special forces of the SBU, which, according to preliminary information, has already been taken for interrogation to Kiev captured by the fascist junta. If they think in their Kiev home that by isolating my husband from the inhabitants of Donbass, they thereby deprived people of the opportunity to follow their leader, their national governor - they are very mistaken! Before the arrest, Pavel managed to tell me to hold on and that the victory will be ours! I have always believed in my husband, the father of our children, this honest and strong man. Therefore, I am ready to take upon himself his burden of responsibility to the people, which he took upon himself in order to make the authorities hear our demands. I am ready to temporarily become the leader of our resistance until Pavel is released, and he will return to our battle formation again!
    Do not look at me as a woman. I am the mother of three of our children with Paul. But the main thing is that I am Russian! And Russian women in difficult times were always worthy of their husbands.
    I inform you that I am now in Russia with my children. We are safe. Our friends hospitably welcomed us and provided us with everything we needed. I always felt that Russian people were ready to help each other in difficult times. Now, here on all Russian TV channels, the situation with the treacherous arrest of the people's governor of the Donetsk region, Pavel Gubarev, is news No. 1. Yesterday, on all TV channels, they showed how public rallies were held in numerous Russian cities in support of Russian-speaking people in Ukraine and the condemnation of the new fascist authorities in Kiev.
    I can assure everyone - the people of Russia are for you! The people of Russia are with us!
    Therefore, as a temporary public leader of the Donbass People’s Militia, I urge you to stick together in a difficult moment for us, not to lose heart and believe in those words that Pavel managed to say to me right before the arrest: “THE VICTORY WILL BE AFTER US!”
    https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=824048007621946
  38. wax
    wax 7 March 2014 11: 44
    +3
    In the UN Security Council, to the tune of the United States, the idea is being advanced that a referendum in Crimea is illegal, and that there should be an all-Ukrainian referendum. But then this is not SELF-DEFINITION. An all-Ukrainian referendum may be about changing borders, etc., but not about CRIMEAN SELF-DETERMINATION. The UN is embarking on a slippery slope of revising fundamental principles and documents on the rights and freedoms of citizens adopted and supported by the UN itself.
    United Nations Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples
    Adopted by General Assembly resolution 61/295 of 13 September 2007
    ...
    Recognizing that the Charter of the United Nations, the International Covenant on Economic, Social and Cultural Rights1 and the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights1, as well as the Vienna Declaration and Program of Action2 confirm fundamental importance of the right to self-determination of all peoplesby virtue of which they freely establish their political status and freely carry out their economic, social and cultural development,
    ...
    Article 3
    Indigenous peoples have the right to self-determination. By virtue of this right, they freely establish their political status and freely carry out their economic, social and cultural development.
    ...
    1. Executer
      Executer 7 March 2014 12: 15
      0
      Then the UN will be forced to invalidate the announced referendums on the same issue in Scotland and in Castile ... Well, well, let's see ...
    2. demon184
      demon184 7 March 2014 14: 30
      0
      And when someone was interested in the opinion of this litter of the USA?
  39. Kuvabatake
    Kuvabatake 7 March 2014 11: 56
    +1
    And I immediately remembered the book "Heart of a Dog". Did they take the script from there ???
  40. parusnik
    parusnik 7 March 2014 11: 57
    +1
    Amerikosov fooled .. Here and rushing about, they all came up with so well .. And it did not grow together
    1. demon184
      demon184 7 March 2014 14: 29
      +1
      What Americans rush about? they got what they wanted, a mess and chaos in the center of Europe, and if it works, then a civil war, but this is the best option for the United States. Are they like Europe scare Russia? They will force them to arm themselves and where to get weapons? Yes, and Russia will be thrown back 20 years ago in a financial sense, and they are selling their dalyarof, it is necessary for people to escape from the depreciation of their own currency, and China will be knocked out by consumers for consumer goods in the face of Europe and Russia
  41. Prutkov
    Prutkov 7 March 2014 13: 07
    +2
    Quote: vaf
    Quote: Alex 241
    I have better news. Nearby, in the shopping center, there were two Privat Bank ATMs, a few days ago they mysteriously disappeared. Polite people in overalls were noticed.


    laughing +! drinks And whether else will be wassat "Vova .. man and .. as we say in Rostov - handsome" !!! soldier

    And here is the news from "Kyev", the people who supported the Maydanuts unexpectedly faced a "problem" - there are no subsidized medicines .. only for money, pensions were cut in half (now either eat or pay for the hut). and the entire communal apartment is 1.5 times larger.

    everyone is in a stupor, but how to live? Answer, and you go to the Maidan, you will be "explained" there !!!

    I understand. That sarcasm and it seems to be not .. "patriotic", but reviewing the footage from the "gathering of maydanutyh" ... there are not so many Natsiks there .. basically it seems like the people of Kiev wink

    Here would be a statement from ours about the denunciation of the WTO treaty and .. my favorite topic .. "krantik .. shast"!
    And there will be .. blindness fellow

    Hi Sasha! drinks

    And what to take from the people of Kiev? They twice elected the mayor of the city an outspoken drug addict and thief - Chernovetsky. The logic is "resting". But Kiev is not all of Ukraine yet. Rather, it is "abroad" where ordinary Ukrainians could come without a passport. Let them "rejoice". It is a pity, but I will have to "rejoice" and many servicemen, who will have to "pull the strap" up to 60 years.
    1. demon184
      demon184 7 March 2014 14: 20
      +1
      And you go to the side of the legitimate authority of Crimea and everything will be OK
      1. tasey
        tasey 7 March 2014 21: 26
        0
        Keep
  42. polkownik1
    polkownik1 7 March 2014 13: 53
    +1
    Hey Native Americans! Do you watch TV? So what's up ? What are we sitting on reservations? :)))
  43. demon184
    demon184 7 March 2014 14: 18
    0
    It is not worth negotiating, it is necessary to send troops to the east of Ukraine and liberate Kiev. Masks are ripped off, everyone sees who is organizing the riots on the planet and fomenting a war in Europe. all as before the start of the war, at our expense they want to get out of the crisis and turn Europe into ruins.
  44. PQ137
    PQ137 7 March 2014 16: 55
    0
    Who are you??? Let's goodbye!!! Take care ... pu.
    Quote: nerzul
    Professional trolls on the maintenance of ErEfni receive, as you know, 30 pieces of silver, that is, cents per post. Professional journalists (with significant names) seem to be an order of magnitude more. How much do homosexuals from the FSB cost mounted photos with Nazi banners, hell knows. There is an intense "information war" in a clumsy Soviet-KGB performance. A herd of jingoistic patriots and imperials happily support all the "good undertakings" of the Kremlin lilyPut. Come on, rejoice and be merry at the beginning of bloody changes. Let's applaud the rebuilding of the cannibalistic beast state. You will fully get drunk on forgotten Soviet realities mixed with the bloody realities of the revolutionary events of a century ago.
  45. chudoudodelt
    chudoudodelt 7 March 2014 17: 13
    0
    It’s probably better for them in their America to know what’s going on in Ukraine)
  46. razved
    razved 8 March 2014 23: 12
    0
    One well-known politician (if the memory of the Third Reich propaganda minister doesn’t fail) said that the more terrible a lie, the faster they will believe it.