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The guarantor of peace in the desert

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The guarantor of peace in the desert

The guard at the monument of the defenders of the Fatherland in Astana, Kazakhstan.



SIPRI predicts an increase in the role of Russia in the formation and modernization of the armies of the countries of Central Asia

Russia remains the main partner for the armies of Central Asia, Moscow’s influence in this region will only grow after the withdrawal of NATO and US forces from Afghanistan, according to a study by the American ethnopolitologist and analyst of the Stockholm Peace Research Institute (SIPRI) Dmitry Gorenburg “External assistance to Central Asian armies and security forces. " It examines the armed forces of all countries in the region.

According to the analyst, despite the increase in military spending, only Kazakhstan and Uzbekistan are in the process of creating combat-ready armies, while Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan have difficulties with organizing even small rapid response teams. Turkmenistan’s problems are the lack of specialists capable of developing a plan for structural reforms of the Turkmen army.

The external threat of radical Islamists does exist, but is regularly exaggerated by local authorities and their partners from Russia, the author of the report said. The main danger for the ruling regimes in Central Asia, he says, are internal protest moods and instability.

Turkey, with mixed success, is trying to establish contacts in the region, besides India is striving in Tajikistan. China, despite the key role in the economy of Central Asia, remains aloof from military issues, not wanting to clash with Russia. The defense industry of the European Union is of interest to local regimes that have the money to buy new weapons, the report says.

As the author of the study writes, the withdrawal of US troops from Afghanistan may be the last chance for Central Asian states to receive major military assistance from the Americans in the form of used equipment and machinery - Uzbekistan, Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan are particularly interested. During the years of the Afghan military operation, the United States remained an influential player in the region, not always helping weapons, but providing education and training programs for local armies.

The withdrawal of the NATO and US coalition forces from Afghanistan, predicts Gorenburg, will leave the leaders of the countries of Central Asia alone with a number of internal threats, while most of them could not create armed forces that meet international standards.

Russia, he said, remains the main source of foreign military assistance for the Central Asian powers, not only supplying weapons, but also training local military personnel, modernizing outdated equipment and providing financial support. The analyst gives information about the extent of Russian cooperation with each of the states.

Kazakhstan

Russia has a fruitful partnership with this country. Kazakhstan has one of the most stable economies in the region and aims to create modern armed forces.

The first bilateral arms purchase deals were mainly related to the Air Force. At the end of the 1990, Kazakhstan acquired the Su-14, 25, MiG-12 fighter jets and a number of training aircraft from its Russian partners 29. Now Russia is taking an active part in the modernization of the Kazakh Air Force.

From 2004 to 2011, Kazakhstan purchased 47 Mi-17 helicopters from Russia (including modifications), but in recent years, the Kazakh authorities have shown interest in European-made helicopters. They continue to actively purchase Russian armored vehicles - In 2010 and 2012, contracts were signed for the supply of 190 BTR-82A. Kazakhstan has also become the first foreign customer of an experimental BMPT (combat support vehicle). tanks), known as the “Terminator”: in 2011, the first three cars were received, then a contract was signed for another nine “Terminators”. In the same year, the armed forces of the Kazakh army received three TOS-1 “Pinocchio” (a heavy flamethrower multiple launch rocket system based on the T-72 tank).


Strategic exercise "Center-2011" in Kazakhstan. Photo: Alexey Kudenko


In January 2013, Russia and Kazakhstan signed an agreement on a single air defense system. Within its framework, the Kazakhs should receive the C-300PS air defense missile system - this C-300 modification is now discontinued.

Finally, the Kazakh Navy builds Katran missile boats developed by Russian designers from the Almaz Central Design Bureau at their own shipyards. In recent years, two such boats have been launched.

Uzbekistan

Almost all of the weapons of the country are of Soviet or Russian origin, but the Uzbek authorities are not conducting such an active modernization of their own army as in Kazakhstan.

Since 2000, Tashkent has been buying Russian rifle weapon, including machine guns and sniper rifles. In the 1990s, around the 170 BTR-80 and 50 armored vehicles were delivered to the country in the 2001 year. Russia has repeatedly participated in the repair and modernization of Uzbek combat aircraft - in particular, in the 2004 year, it installed on the MiG-29 and Su-27 equipment that allows flights at night and in bad weather conditions.

Uzbekistan was interested in other types of Russian weapons, including air defense systems and anti-tank missiles, but its main priority remains contracts for the repair and modernization of existing equipment.

Туркменистан

Five years ago, the Russian-Turkmen arms market practically did not exist. This was influenced by relative poverty, the isolationist policies of Ashahabad and the impressive stock of weapons and equipment inherited from the Soviet Union. However, the aging of Soviet technology and the growth of the state budget due to revenues from gas exports dramatically changed the situation.

The first contract with a Russian manufacturer was the order of six MRLS (multiple launch rocket systems) Smerch. In the 2009, two Mi-171 and 8 BTR-80A helicopters were acquired. For the needs of the army, the Turkmen authorities ordered 1040 KamAZ trucks and other transport vehicles in Russia. There were two contracts for the supply of T-90С tanks - a total of 40 vehicles.

Russia played a key role in creating a young Turkmen fleet. Two large Lightning missile boats and two Sobol coast guard ships were delivered to his armament. Until the end of 2014, the delivery of three more Lightning is expected.

Kyrgyzstan

Russia has been cooperating with this country since the end of the 1990s, but arms deliveries on an ongoing basis began after the signing of an agreement on the deployment of Russian military personnel at the Kant airbase in the Chui oblast of Kyrgyzstan. According to the agreement, Kyrgyzstan annually receives free military aid for $ 4,5 million. It is divided in half between equipment and training. In 2003, two Mi-17 helicopters were transferred to the country. As part of other annual deductions, the Kyrgyz army received batches of small arms, body armor, night vision goggles, ammunition, communications equipment and military uniforms.


Soldiers of the Kyrgyz army at a checkpoint in the city


In 2012, in the framework of a bilateral treaty on the expansion of the Russian military presence, Moscow offered Kyrgyz military assistance for $ 1 billion. The list of military equipment proposed for this amount was not made public, but Kyrgyzstan’s wishes are known. The local Interior Ministry requested 2 combat helicopters, five armored personnel carriers, a 44 truck and a minibus, several hundred small arms and 40 thousands of police uniform sets. The armed forces of the country want an unspecified amount of armored personnel carriers, guns, mortars, portable air defense systems, motorcycles and satellite communications.

Tajikistan

Russian cooperation with Dushanbe consists mainly in supporting its military presence than in the supply of new weapons. Nevertheless, in the 2006, the Tajik army received two Mi-24 combat helicopters, and in the 2007 year - four modernized L-39 training aircraft.

There is evidence that Moscow can transfer to Tajikistan all the old equipment of the 201 Russian military base. We are talking about 160 tanks T-62 and T-72, 160 BTR-70 and BTR-80 and 140 BMP-1, as well as dozens of howitzers, portable SAMs and mortars. There is no exact information about the future of this technology.

The latest agreement to extend the lease of the military base, ratified by the Tajik parliament in October 2013, refers to $ 200 million of military assistance, mainly on air defense systems and equipment repair.
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  1. AVV
    AVV 6 March 2014 15: 47
    +5
    Everywhere it is necessary to cooperate, but not disinterestedly, it is necessary to sell and earn money, and if Russia does help in the form of the supply of arms, then it is necessary to supply not new, but used equipment !!!
    1. Tumbleweed
      Tumbleweed 6 March 2014 16: 13
      +2
      I am for close military cooperation with Kazakhstan and for establishing a visa regime and a protected border with other countries of Central Asia. Russia cannot help the people of the bayov, but it is time to stop feeding the bay and their environment.
      Deliveries of equipment to these bays is a complete corruption, they have already gone through this. Equipment before the transfer must undergo maintenance, modernization, delivery is paid ... All this is scrapped, and the loot is sawn. Maybe enough already to feed the generals?
      1. Luzhichanin
        Luzhichanin 6 March 2014 16: 29
        +2
        it's not for nothing that in the morning your activity in the first comments to some articles seemed so suspicious, minus you for this comment.
        1. Tumbleweed
          Tumbleweed 6 March 2014 16: 41
          +6
          Quote: Luzhichanin
          it's not for nothing that in the morning your activity in the first comments to some articles seemed so suspicious, minus you for this comment.

          When you turn to someone, at least make quotes, otherwise he declared his "FU" and who does not know laughing
          If your post is directed to me, then you can benefit from this minus too ... I live in Moscow and see how Russian speech is gradually disappearing from the streets. Under the pretext that the Russians do not want to work, ZhEKi and the owners of the boutiques attach these "slaves". The media are just shouting about the establishment of a migration order, in fact there was lawlessness, there is and is only multiplying. Until there are borders and a visa regime, order in Russia with illegal migration cannot be restored !!!
          Well, yes, probably I am a nationalist in the worst sense of the word and I understand the validity of the "-", which put my comments, but REALLY REACHED THE BEDROOM OF REPRESENTATIVES FROM CENTRAL ASIA !!!
          1. Luzhichanin
            Luzhichanin 6 March 2014 16: 59
            +4
            But why are you so straight forward to being a nationalist? why don't you want to be a patriot?
            a nationalist is one who hates all nations except his own.
            a patriot is one who loves his people and his country!
            see the difference? if not, what can you talk about?
            1. Tumbleweed
              Tumbleweed 6 March 2014 17: 01
              +3
              Quote: Luzhichanin
              a nationalist is one who hates all nations except his own. a patriot is one who loves his people and his country!

              I love Russia and respect the peoples living in it, but I hate guest workers ... Here is such a clash of my patriotism and nationalism in "one bottle" request
              Well, almost like I'm not a racist, but I hate blacks laughing
              1. Semurg
                Semurg 6 March 2014 22: 03
                0
                Quote: rolling the field
                Quote: Luzhichanin
                a nationalist is one who hates all nations except his own. a patriot is one who loves his people and his country!

                I love Russia and respect the peoples living in it, but I hate guest workers ... Here is such a clash of my patriotism and nationalism in "one bottle" request
                Well, almost like I'm not a racist, but I hate blacks laughing

                It seems that you have passed a law on simplified acquisition of citizenship of the Russian Federation and the main condition there is three born in the USSR, knowledge of the Russian language, renunciation of previous citizenship and you do not need to live in Russia for 5 years as before. So I think soon many more new fellow citizens will be added, and not the fact that they will all be white and blue-eyed.
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            2. Stanislas
              Stanislas 6 March 2014 21: 53
              0
              Quote: Luzhichanin
              a nationalist is one who hates all nations except his own.
              Confused with the Nazi. A nationalist loves his national culture, and a patriot loves his country, that’s the whole difference. The negative pole of nationalism is Nazism, and patriotism is chauvinism.
          2. GDP
            GDP 6 March 2014 17: 20
            +2
            I live in Moscow and see how gradually Russian speech disappears from the streets

            You are driving through Moscow with your nose - you have come here HERE. And in the North Caucasus we were driven by families from homes where our mother gave birth. I used to think like you. But thank God I matured and realized that nationalism would not help us in our trouble, but would only throw gasoline into the fire!
            If you want to live in a great country, you need to learn to build relationships with other nations ... We can’t afford to lock ourselves in our borders and incite nationalism. We must look for a third way ...
            Look for it on the basis of mutual respect, without forgetting of course about your interests ...
            1. blizart
              blizart 6 March 2014 20: 59
              0

              If you want to live in a great country, you need to learn to build relationships with other nations

              I serve in the army of Kazakhstan (for a long time) in the intelligence unit. I would like to reveal some links between the cultural influence of the people (in this case, the Russian) and military technical cooperation. One of the main markers of national identity is language, it is not for nothing that everyone who plays the nationalist card starts with the language (prohibitions, infringements, changes in status - well-known events confirm this). And although in Kazakhstan, in this regard, everything is pretty good, given your complete inaction on this issue , but not rosy either. The Russian language is leaving everyday life. But the military language is special, ideally it should not allow ambiguous interpretations. The Russian language, as a command language, has been polished by centuries of use and therefore is difficult to supplant, despite the efforts made. In the course of our regular "hacking" on the linguistic topic, I suggest the Kazakhs to choose an analogue in their language to such simple and clear military words for them: concentrate (disperse), move forward, and so on. attempts with varying degrees of failure. Somehow an ardent "Natsik" decided to defiantly master the performance characteristics of the ZU-23-2 in Kazakh. After half an hour of trying, I asked for a "die" with the performance characteristics in Russian. Do you understand? And we also received KAMAZ and armored personnel carriers, it is clear in what language it will be - the HANDLE and where to turn it. What about interactions with aviation? The flyers will definitely not soon switch to any other besides the great and mighty. And so I every morning after the ritual - Tuzel (equal) Tektel (at attention) I wait, I wait and here it is. Commanders, check the availability of personnel! Report from the place! At ease!
              And then it started my own One-time-one two two three. Who steps right there! Left! Left! Left!
        2. GDP
          GDP 6 March 2014 17: 12
          +3
          it's not for nothing that in the morning your activity (roll-over) seemed suspicious in the first comments to some articles, minus this comment to you.
          joining ...
          It is necessary to establish contacts with friends from Central Asia. In Soviet times, we had very good relations with many of them, and I personally.
          I would like to return all this!
    2. Luzhichanin
      Luzhichanin 6 March 2014 16: 27
      0
      judging by the conclusions from the article:
      Maydown moves to Turkmenistan? request
    3. Arhj
      Arhj 6 March 2014 17: 06
      0
      Quote: AVV
      Everywhere it is necessary to cooperate, but not disinterestedly, it is necessary to sell and earn money, and if Russia does help in the form of the supply of arms, then it is necessary to supply not new, but used equipment !!!

      And in the world, no one has been disinterested for a long time. Yes, and I don’t remember that anyone, including Russia, would transfer the new nechnik free of charge.
      In Central Asia, the situation is such that, in order to avoid big problems, Russia will have to maintain at least the armies of Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan. And it’s better to do it with all the joy. It’s cheaper than sending your own.
    4. Siberian German
      Siberian German 6 March 2014 19: 29
      0
      this I support only one I don’t understand, but give Nashish to Tajiks
  2. nomad74
    nomad74 6 March 2014 16: 19
    +3
    In Central Asia, you need to work by the methods of the tsarist government and nothing else! Strictly observe national interests! Otherwise, there will be a bias not in favor of the Motherland!
    1. Alibekulu
      Alibekulu 6 March 2014 16: 45
      +5
      The title of the article sounds somehow ambiguous, after the well-known events in / in Ukraine wink
      "Desert Peace Guarantor" negative understand ...
      I think the contacts of Central Asian countries with the West will receive an additional incentive ..
      Yes, but for those who can afford it - Kazakhstan, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan.
      Quote: AVV
      it is necessary to supply not new, but used equipment !!!
      And when did the Russian Federation deliver new equipment ?!
      Quote: tumbleweed
      this is solid corruption, they have already gone through it.
      In fact, the Russian Federation, as it delivered the rusty Su-27.
      The satellites that Kazakhstan ordered Roscosmos are now somewhere at the bottom of the Pacific Ocean. As a result, they are now switching to French satellites.
      Rocket complex "Baiterek" on the basis of "Angara" for the creation of which Astana invested 2 lard% of Baku is missing. We came to the conclusion to create a launch vehicle based on the Ukrainian Zenit.
      Quote: nomad74
      In Central Asia, you need to work by the methods of the tsarist government and nothing else!
      Remember what happened to the tsarist government in the end ?! repeat
      1. Zymran
        Zymran 6 March 2014 16: 47
        +1
        Quote: Alibekulu
        I think the contacts of Central Asian countries with the West will receive an additional incentive ..


        Rather, with China.
  3. individual
    individual 6 March 2014 16: 42
    +2
    Especially amazing photo:
    "Servicemen of the Kyrgyz Army at a checkpoint in the city."
    1. Ptah
      Ptah 6 March 2014 17: 34
      -1
      Quote: individ
      "Servicemen of the Kyrgyz Army at a checkpoint in the city."

      There is not enough in the foreground a tray of rice, nearby, a furiously itchy thin dog, and in the distance a company of women and children in colorful robes leading on a donkey rope with a shrunken MANPADS ...
    2. Dimych from Vanino
      Dimych from Vanino 6 March 2014 18: 17
      -2
      Yeah ... you sit down with ... and you won’t notice. wassat
  4. Arh
    Arh 6 March 2014 16: 54
    -1
    It would be better to unite all countries in a military bloc against terrorism and a counterbalance to NATO! ! !
    1. KG_patriot_last
      KG_patriot_last 6 March 2014 17: 43
      0
      We will not be united in one block. For the same reason that many other countries do not unite. Well, except that Kazakhstan + Kyrgyzgers can be relatively confident, and since the wise Kyrgyz people understand that they are not able to return their lands either physically or economically ...
  5. Mercenary
    Mercenary 6 March 2014 16: 55
    +1
    A waste of money and effort. Happen that our guys have to disentangle. Completely change the approach to military cooperation: you are free bases, we are defense. And payment for protection.
  6. Megatron
    Megatron 6 March 2014 17: 17
    +1
    Soldiers of the Kyrgyz army at a checkpoint in the city

    We also sit squatting, current in red vests))))
  7. ken
    ken 6 March 2014 17: 23
    0
    Like it or not, you need to cooperate with them. After all, these are former republics of the USSR. Together, everyone was an irresistible force, and separately you can observe now in Ukraine.
  8. ruslan__86
    ruslan__86 6 March 2014 17: 26
    +3
    more correct Kazakhstan and not Kazakh
  9. Shep
    Shep 6 March 2014 17: 32
    +7
    Quote: tumbleweed
    no, what about in

    interestingly you do it. During World War II, Central Asia fed and watered orphans from other republics, in particular, from Russia. After 2, in a couple of years, only the population of Tashkent has grown several times. Basically at the expense of the Russians. At that time, we did not talk about the "ENDORANCE OF REPRESENTATIVES FROM Russia".
    And where is the vaunted Russian feeling for justice ???????
    1. Megatron
      Megatron 6 March 2014 23: 04
      0
      During World War 2, Central Asia fed and watered orphans from other republics

      But now we are feeding you, but why, it is not clear, "so that China does not get it," I guess.
      And how many Russians were killed after the collapse of the USSR, they were taken from their homes, driven out, killed.
      1. Qytayjuz
        Qytayjuz 20 March 2014 16: 26
        +1
        Quote: Megatron
        And how many Russians were killed after the collapse of the USSR, they were taken from their homes, driven out, killed.

        It was in Uzbekistan that was not the case with the Russians.
  10. gunter_laux
    gunter_laux 6 March 2014 17: 48
    0
    But what if Tubaretkina for the post of the Ministry of Defense of Turkmenistan? after a worthy amnesty - a worthy position! Yes, and Turkmenbashi will please a valuable specialist!
  11. nikcris
    nikcris 6 March 2014 18: 28
    0
    Quote: Shep
    Quote: tumbleweed
    no, what about in

    interestingly you do it. During World War II, Central Asia fed and watered orphans from other republics, in particular, from Russia. After 2, in a couple of years, only the population of Tashkent has grown several times. Basically at the expense of the Russians. At that time, we did not talk about the "ENDORANCE OF REPRESENTATIVES FROM Russia".
    And where is the vaunted Russian feeling for justice ???????

    After 66 years in my native Uralsk, newly built houses were handed over to the victims of the earthquake in Tashkent (you yourself write it with a small letter). And the population did not grow in a couple of years, but in 20 - the capital of Central Asia was built from scratch by the whole Union from the village.
    Do you remember the song - Shine Tashkent, Star of the East ...?
  12. egor64
    egor64 6 March 2014 18: 30
    -2
    I wonder when the Kazakhs were our friends. Remember how they feel about us.
    1. hommer
      hommer 6 March 2014 20: 54
      +2
      Quote: egor64
      I wonder when the Kazakhs were our friends. Remember how they feel about us.


      To people like you, the troll, we will always be bad. And to our Russian brothers - always good.
  13. Stinger
    Stinger 6 March 2014 18: 34
    0
    Why bicker? The trouble for all, without exception, is one. She is the root cause of all the strife. Post-Soviet authorities cannot provide the population of their countries with jobs. This problem must be solved by joint efforts.
  14. nikcris
    nikcris 6 March 2014 18: 56
    +2
    Quote: Shep
    Quote: tumbleweed
    no, what about in

    interestingly you do it. During World War II, Central Asia fed and watered orphans from other republics, in particular, from Russia. After 2, in a couple of years, only the population of Tashkent has grown several times. Basically at the expense of the Russians. At that time, we did not talk about the "ENDORANCE OF REPRESENTATIVES FROM Russia".
    And where is the vaunted Russian feeling for justice ???????

    I'll add more facts to you. In Uralsk then, before the earthquake, a reinforced concrete complex and the first quarters of five-story buildings were built. They were given to the people of Tashkent. People (local) walked around and akhal - "all the amenities !!!" - our house was three-storey, but the "amenities" in the yard were in a hole, and the water was in the hand well of the same yard. But I don’t remember a single remark against, and you, apricot, remembered the children whom you personally never gave cherries. And the Russians and Kazakhs of Uralsk gave your ancestors apartments.

    BL !!! Where do such geeks come from? But obviously not from women ...
  15. konvalval
    konvalval 6 March 2014 19: 09
    -1
    Sheep leads a goat. Where they lead, they will go there.
  16. sigizmund472
    sigizmund472 6 March 2014 19: 13
    +2
    Quote: Stinger
    Why bicker? The trouble for all, without exception, is one. She is the root cause of all the strife. Post-Soviet authorities cannot provide the population of their countries with jobs. This problem must be solved by joint efforts.


    The trouble is that we do not know how, or do not want to listen to each other. We literally cling to every word, begin to prove something, and then, this proof, sometimes results in mutual insults. Maybe it's time (it’s time already) to begin to carefully read the comments of colleagues, given the fact that emotions are absolutely invisible here (smile, playfulness, and maybe even audacity).
    IMHO. We must always think that we all speak on equal terms and each of us has his own point of view. No insults, no jokes. We listen and answer.
    And on the topic ... Whatever one may say, we are all from the USSR. Someone is older, someone is younger, someone remembers, someone does not, and someone remembers vaguely. Nevertheless, having lived so many years as one family, we must now help each other, (WE and no one else will help us) and not count the mistakes. Only together we can resist both brown and any others who want to quarrel us. and do not count debts.
  17. nikcris
    nikcris 6 March 2014 19: 25
    +1
    Quote: sigizmund472
    Quote: Stinger
    Why bicker? The trouble for all, without exception, is one. She is the root cause of all the strife. Post-Soviet authorities cannot provide the population of their countries with jobs. This problem must be solved by joint efforts.


    The trouble is that we do not know how, or do not want to listen to each other. We literally cling to every word, begin to prove something, and then, this proof, sometimes results in mutual insults. Maybe it's time (it’s time already) to begin to carefully read the comments of colleagues, given the fact that emotions are absolutely invisible here (smile, playfulness, and maybe even audacity).
    IMHO. We must always think that we all speak on equal terms and each of us has his own point of view. No insults, no jokes. We listen and answer.
    And on the topic ... Whatever one may say, we are all from the USSR. Someone is older, someone is younger, someone remembers, someone does not, and someone remembers vaguely. Nevertheless, having lived so many years as one family, we must now help each other, (WE and no one else will help us) and not count the mistakes. Only together we can resist both brown and any others who want to quarrel us. and do not count debts.

    Yes Yes. Right now there will be lunch, then a quiet hour, then afternoon tea, and then your mothers will take you home by morning.
    Tie off looking for a cause on the side. In the State Department, the CIA, Mi-6 and others. She is not there.
    And then, in your opinion, drug addiction from the fact that we did not go out with flags at the May 1 demonstration.

    Ps About debts especially touched - you Christ come to you? Or do you just write ... is there so much that you dream of cashing them quietly?
  18. Yeraz
    Yeraz 6 March 2014 19: 52
    0
    after the events in Ukraine, the Russian contingent and the Russian population are clearly not perceived by the elite and residents as a guarantee of stability))
  19. nikcris
    nikcris 6 March 2014 20: 28
    -1
    Quote: Yeraz
    after the events in Ukraine, the Russian contingent and the Russian population are clearly not perceived by the elite and residents as a guarantee of stability))

    Very deliberate ...
    But I figured it out - Russians are no longer obliged to diapers to the elite and, especially, to tie the residents? Was this the country in Russia? In your? And can you and your wife a Russian soldier returned the garter? Or are you not talking about soldiers, but about simple grooms? Our grooms do not return anything without a bribe. Have you been returned?
    NOT ... This BL .. Dobchinsky and Bobchinsky according to the warehouse belonging to the loony bin.
    1. Yeraz
      Yeraz 6 March 2014 23: 50
      0
      Quote: nikcris
      Very deliberate ...

      It’s just a reality. Now in Kazakhstan, only the large compactly living Russian population remained there, and it’s close to Russia itself, according to any power and population (and there were 3 categories, who are for Russians, against and people who like everything on the drum) differently will perceive.
      Truly, with their own hands they manage to throw everyone away from themselves, I do not cease to be amazed.
  20. parus2nik
    parus2nik 6 March 2014 21: 20
    0
    Russia played a key role in creating the young Turkmen fleet ... Submarines in the sands of Turkmenistan..Turkmen at sea .. the truth is funny .. Do not be offended ..
    1. Indifferent
      Indifferent 6 March 2014 21: 40
      +1
      Turkmenistan enters the Caspian. This is a common geography. And to guard their maritime borders, they need a guard fleet!
    2. Zymran
      Zymran 6 March 2014 22: 09
      0
      Let it be known to you that Turkmens and Kazakhs not only went to the Caspian on ships, but even engaged in piracy, which is confirmed by Russian sources.
  21. Shep
    Shep 10 March 2014 19: 59
    +1
    Quote: nikcris
    Quote: Shep
    Quote: tumbleweed
    no, what about in

    interestingly you do it. During World War II, Central Asia fed and watered orphans from other republics, in particular, from Russia. After 2, in a couple of years, only the population of Tashkent has grown several times. Basically at the expense of the Russians. At that time, we did not talk about the "ENDORANCE OF REPRESENTATIVES FROM Russia".
    And where is the vaunted Russian feeling for justice ???????

    After 66 years in my native Uralsk, newly built houses were handed over to the victims of the earthquake in Tashkent (you yourself write it with a small letter). And the population did not grow in a couple of years, but in 20 - the capital of Central Asia was built from scratch by the whole Union from the village.
    Do you remember the song - Shine Tashkent, Star of the East ...?


    Say what you really know. The earthquake played into the hands of the Soviets and everyone who lived in the very center, mind you, only in the very center of Tashkent was evicted. Several cracks in the walls. Note, You won't even find photos of really destroyed "Clay" houses (as you call them) even on the internet. BECAUSE, these houses were built according to the millennial technology "kush sinch". they are almost a meter thick and much more stable than brick.