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Lessons of Ukraine

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Lessons of UkraineThe current situation in Ukraine is a new challenge for Russia and at the same time a new “window of opportunity”. Any country, any state must have a sense of its existence. From deciphering this meaning and from how much this very “meaning” is recognized and felt by the citizens of this state, the weight of this state in the world arena largely depends.

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“State with meaning” is a superpower. Already a superpower for today or a potential one in the future is not the point. Since only this very “meaning”, which is otherwise called a “civilization project,” is the very force, that indispensable attribute, ingredient. For any country, held as a superpower or aspiring to this role in the foreseeable future.

The other is simply a country in which citizens are united only by a nation, or only by means of earning a living, or by their past, or by the configuration of all this in varying proportions.

The “meaning” of the existence of a state, its “civilization project” is always a projection of the future. This is an aspiration for tomorrow, a claim to a breakthrough, to receive an answer to the eternal question of any person on planet Earth: what is the meaning of his life? For what he lives, works, raises children, fights, makes good and then dies.

The countries that found the answers to these questions and made these answers the backbone of their own policies always became superpowers. The completeness of the answer to this question, the ability to adapt it to the urgent needs of its own citizens in a fluid and unfriendly world made them superpowers for a long time. But exactly until the “meaning” of their existence disappeared.

2

On the other hand, fixing on “yesterday” and “today”, no state could ever form its own “civilization project” and grow to the level of “superpower”. Such countries are always forced to "adapt" to those who "live with meaning."

Sometimes it works well, sometimes not so much, but in any case history make "superpower", the rest only reap the fruits of their efforts. These fruits will be bitter or sweet, here as you are lucky with the historical era and the political balance of power in the struggle.

Examples of this do not count. From ancient Rome and Byzantium to all of us known USSR. The rise, rise and fall of all the superpowers in the history of mankind are directly correlated with the rise, rise and decline of their “civilization projects”.

The "meaning" of the existence of all the superpowers of mankind was the "cement" that holds different people together almost always from different nationalities. This meaning was the “fuel” that moved these societies and forced them to achieve results that affect the lives of all contemporaries without exception. As soon as the "cement" gave a "crack", and the "fuel" eventually "sour" - the superpower went into oblivion and gave way to others.

3

When we, patriots, say that Russia is not a state in the usual sense of the word, but a separate civilization, then we sort of mean a priori that there is a special meaning in our existence that is separate from other countries. And we understand that the loss of this meaning will be the next “closure of Russia”. Since there is no other meaning for the existence of different ethnically, religiously and historically peoples within the same state-civilization, except for the aspirations of the majority to the future, and cannot be.

It follows that, without forgetting about the daily bread (economy, armaments, social sphere and culture), it is vital for patriots to work on the creation and formulation of a new meaning. A new understanding of the eternal meaning of Russia as a state-civilization, uniting around the Russian people all the peoples of the Russian world.

The meaning of this existence can only be that “Russian meaning”: the unification of peoples for the sake of the world. For centuries this union took place, somewhere peacefully, and somewhere through war and coercion, but in any case, the expansion of the Russian world to other nations always and everywhere brought to these peoples not prosperity, genocide and poverty, but prosperity and development.

4

The current situation in Ukraine is a unique chance for Russia to find itself as a superpower, as a state-civilization, which can win in this confrontation not only by its strength. weapons, and a clear and precise civilizational sense of their actions.

An application for its own role in the world, which Russia has made, having thrown the glove in the face of the West, is first of all an application for itself. Like Russians, on people of a different, different from the West civilization of the Russian world, which united around itself people of different nationalities, religions and cultures.

In today's world, where power rules, Russia can oppose equality and justice. In today's international politics, where lawlessness with the help of double standards becomes a new paradigm of relations, Russia is obliged to provide an alternative to the law for everyone who suffers from this lawlessness and everyone who does not agree to put up with this state of affairs.

To base their practical activities on equality and justice, to personify the law - this is the role of Russia, which meets its historical mission. Our civilization project, its "meaning". This is the natural role of Russia as a superpower, the departure from which could cost us all the loss of our beloved Fatherland.

5

But how to implement it in practice?

Challenging the West, you need to understand that it just will not give up its ideological-civilizational championship. We will not be able to win and establish ourselves in our own role as super-powers, civilization countries, if we are on the defensive.

Constantly not defeated in the defense. So, our transition to attack is a matter of survival, the survival of us as a thousand-year-old country.

Thanks to the policy of "Putin's years", through all the costs and shortcomings, we still reached a level where our military potential again poses a threat to our "partners." The threat is so significant that open conflict is no longer possible.

Talk from the beginning of 90-x about the possible introduction of a limited contingent of "peacekeepers" into the territory of Russia has already turned into political fiction.

However, today's victories are forged not only with the sword. And not even so much. Russia is not ready today to wage information wars, and this field of geopolitical confrontations has now completely replaced the shelling of past years.

Successful information warfare, the ability to defend against information attacks and, most importantly, the ability to successfully attack themselves - this is the best way to demoralize the enemy and the best way to achieve their own victory.

In the new round of tension in Russia, as in 1941, we will have to learn from the wheels these wars, learn victories in them. And we must clearly understand that we will not have the opportunity to retake this exam, if the process of “studying” is unsuccessful.

So we need control over the media. And the “window of opportunity” for Russia opens up in order to receive it. This will protect the country from organizing a coup in the Ukrainian scenario and will now allow to break through the information blockade that may occur around the policy of our country.

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Information security, information policy is not only following the letter of the law and the truth of life, but also the ability to oppose one's point of view with lies and anti-Russian propaganda - all this is not only the urgent tasks of the current moment, but also the question of the survival of Russia as a superpower.

“Non-resistance to evil by violence” is a very beautiful theory. But, unfortunately, its effectiveness is not confirmed by life, if you deal with aggressive people without honor and conscience.

Dealing with questions of agitation, we cannot but understand that our agitation will exist in the face of the dominance of world media on a global scale. And as in the case of the army, whose ability to destroy any enemy will save us from military aggression of the type of Yugoslavia.

So it’s with the media: only the ability of our media to level out false propaganda against us and to conduct explanatory agitation among them can save us from the complete loss of our civilization exclusivity, and after it our statehood.

Ukraine is the very case when we can defeat the law there, defend the law and the rights of Russians, Ukrainians and people of other nationalities with a pen than with a sword.

It remains to realize this and start working in this direction.
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  1. rugor
    rugor 5 March 2014 08: 40
    +1
    Forever we are fighting with mattresses in a strange land, sometimes with the wrong hands. And for this to stop, a common external threat is needed, for example, an alien invasion. This is the most likely factor that will avoid conflicts in the future.
    1. muginov2015
      muginov2015 5 March 2014 09: 36
      +4
      Then I think that the mattresses will agree with us against them, if not already ...
      1. elmi
        elmi 5 March 2014 10: 06
        +4
        Americans only understand the language of power. In order to negotiate profitably with them, you need to be strong, both economically and militarily. But even this is not enough, and bold political will in defending our interests is also needed. Then we will be respected and listened to. The golden times of Catherine's reign come to mind. the second, when the Russian Empire was considered the most powerful and strongest and the phrase "Without our knowledge, not a single gun in Europe shoots" is just applicable to that era of government. It is hoped that history develops in a spiral and the golden age of Russia is coming.
        1. CALL.
          CALL. 5 March 2014 11: 59
          +1
          Ukraine, CE Europe.

          - Where is Ukraine located?
          - Deep in the back of Europe!
        2. varov14
          varov14 5 March 2014 12: 25
          0
          Americans are not a nation, they are people of the world and they profess the religion of world domination. Among our elite, representatives of the media and the so-called intelligentsia, there are just as many individuals with such views. They do not correlate themselves with any nationality, are torn into the so-called golden billion. People of the world are still flirting with the population, though verbally, they are hanging noodles on their ears, but at the same time, they are not averse to checking the effect of new drugs on their own population, feeding it with artificial products, organizing war on occasion - everything is aimed at reducing the population, the truth is badly reduced, slipping somewhere. Our goal will turn to face nationality, otherwise we will lose. Nationalities can be friends with each other, they can fight, but they do not have the goal of global domination, it does not work. The people of the world in this regard are more ruthless, they pit nations against each other, relying on the fifth column of their own kind in the nation itself. For your survival and further development of each nation, you must destroy the inner fifth column, either you are your own or you don’t live here.
  2. makarov
    makarov 5 March 2014 08: 41
    .
    If the desire of Ukrainians to be and live as free people, the author calls "The current situation in Ukraine is a new challenge for Russia", then it becomes clear the impact on the GDP of a host of such authors, which led to the tragic consequences of the early fraternal peoples.
    1. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 5 March 2014 08: 52
      +14
      Quote: makarov
      If the desire of Ukrainians to be, and live free people,

      Perhaps Russia is going to enslave them? Russia's desire to ensure its presence in Sevastopol is quite logical and legitimate. Or the Maidan riffraff about the denunciation of the agreement on the basing of the Black Sea Fleet cannot leave anyone indifferent, international treaties are not a child's "word of honor", and the Navy is not a suitcase to carry back and forth. Like it or not, Ukraine is a sphere of vital Russian interests and we cannot calmly look at the creation of an openly hostile state under red and black flags on our borders.
      1. makarov
        makarov 5 March 2014 09: 09
        -2
        You still do not understand what is happening, unfortunately. What is the brown flag ??? Everything goes to the fact that the mattress will hang out! You don’t understand this?
        1. zzz
          zzz 5 March 2014 09: 27
          +5
          Quote: makarov
          You still do not understand what is happening, unfortunately. What is the brown flag ??? Everything goes to the fact that the mattress will hang out! You don’t understand this?


          Yes, we have all understood this for a long time !!!! They did not understand this in your Kiev, or maybe they just want the American flag to dangle over your Rada! I, personally, do not mind the people of Kiev, they deserve it. But why are people dragging along?
          1. varov14
            varov14 5 March 2014 12: 31
            0
            For servants, someone should cook, wash, and wash borsch. The rest will give God to flee.
        2. Vladimirets
          Vladimirets 5 March 2014 09: 32
          +3
          Quote: makarov
          You still do not understand what is happening, unfortunately.

          The main thing is that you understand.
          Quote: makarov
          What is the brown flag ??? Everything goes to the fact that the mattress will hang out!

          If Russia will just chat, then yes. If Russian troops remain in Ukraine, then the West will not go into direct conflict. If we are bashfully talking from our territory about international law, Bendera’s and so on, then NATO will be in Ukraine with whatever sauce it is, it’s obvious.
        3. Field
          Field 5 March 2014 09: 33
          +1
          If you understand this, then your reaction to what is happening is not clear.
        4. Anper
          Anper 5 March 2014 10: 38
          +2
          Quote: makarov
          What is the brown flag ??

          RIGHT SECTOR VK. Orders dated 4.03.14 (for example, my translation)
          1. The PS needs officers with experience in recruiting and mobilizing. For an interview, contact 24 Khreschatyk St. (LTB store).
          2. We turn to people who can make changes to Wikipedia. In the English version (with the Russian one even worse) PS is depicted as an organization with fascist and neo-Nazi views, which has corresponding consequences.
          If there is a possibility - correct this misunderstanding.

          And so every day. And a lot. Still, brown will hang.
        5. Duelist
          Duelist 5 March 2014 11: 20
          +2
          And so fascism came to power with the help of the oligarchy and Western governments. The scenario is repeated, the puppeteers are the same. Why are mattresses better than fascists?
        6. The comment was deleted.
        7. Yuri Sev Caucasus
          Yuri Sev Caucasus 5 March 2014 11: 51
          +3
          Western Ukrainian fascist nationalists also cannot but know that Yatsenyuk’s wife is Theresia Gur, the great-great-great-granddaughter of the founder of the Hasidic dynasty, Yitzhak Meir Rotenberg Alter.
          The genus of Theresa Gur is very revered among the Hasidim. The Jewish Encyclopedia says that GUR is a dynasty of tzadiks from the city of Gura-Calvarya - the hometown of the notorious Wolf Messing.
          In September 2009, Yatsenyuk was included in the publication “50 Famous Jews of Ukraine”, compiled by professor at the Shimon Dubnov Academy of Jewish History and Culture, President of the Lviv Regional Jewish Community Rudolf Mirsky and executive director of the Academy of Jewish History and Culture Alexander Naiman. Answering a question about his own nationality, Yatsenyuk once answered: "we do not have a monogamous society."
          Proponents of the theory of Grigory Klimov will surely pay attention to the fact that Yatsenyuk is four years younger than his wife, which automatically, according to their theoretical positions, introduces him into the number of so-called degenerates especially loved by Klimovites.
          1. varov14
            varov14 5 March 2014 12: 41
            +1
            Well, as Bandera without one of the famous Jews, in the next world they will stop sleeping. He feeds them ideologically.
        8. 222222
          222222 5 March 2014 11: 58
          0
          makarov (1) UA Today, 09:09 ↑ New
          "You still do not understand what is happening, unfortunately. What kind of brown flag is there ??? Everything is going to the fact that the mattress will hang out! Don't you understand this?"
          .. who will allow them ... now the power is on the side of the "Right Sector" ... and They are against different .. "isms" and for the national state .. (http://hrabro.com/55226)
          1. varov14
            varov14 5 March 2014 12: 45
            0
            But nationalism is that, not ism, is there anything at all in the schools?
    2. sawmill
      sawmill 5 March 2014 08: 56
      +8
      Live and be free.
      But why people in the Crimea and the Donbas cannot speak their native language and teach their children.
      Why, having received Crimea and Sevastopol, Ukraine constantly uses our fleet as a factor of political blackmail.
      Why the first decree of the new government abolition of the law on language?
      Freedom for the elect? The rest, those who do not jump dictates.
      And this is fascism.

      Who does not jump that Russian?


      Here and jumped.
      Ukraine has already lost the Crimea, it's over the east.
      1. makarov
        makarov 5 March 2014 09: 11
        -3
        I live in the southeast, and I ask you to believe, WE DO NOT HAVE LANGUAGE INJURIES !!!!! Speak and write whatever language you want !!!!
        1. ziqzaq
          ziqzaq 5 March 2014 09: 19
          +5
          Quote: makarov
          I live in the southeast, and I ask you to believe, WE DO NOT HAVE LANGUAGE INJURIES !!!!! Speak and write whatever language you want !!!!

          Not yet respected, not yet ... Look in the internet for Yarosh's statements, if your land (southeast) is called "k.ac.ac.a.p.sh.i.n.o." still talking?
          1. makarov
            makarov 5 March 2014 09: 24
            -7
            let me be, I am a Nazi muzzle, oh, let me be what they say about me further, BUT in our city, we can somehow manage it ourselves, and we don't need "guests". There is a militia, there is a militia, there are vigilantes. We can cope with the threats ourselves.

            Now I entered the "change" option, because the posted comment instead of the word "I will be katts.apo.m." gives out a Nazi muzzle. That is, it automatically issues fake changes. Here is what is happening on the site.
            Do not believe it, try it yourself.
            1. ziqzaq
              ziqzaq 5 March 2014 09: 40
              +3
              Quote: makarov
              BUT in our city, we can manage ourselves somehow, and we don't need "guests"

              You, apparently, did not understand what will happen next, and then there will be sweeps of everyone who actively promotes Russian culture, only the sweeps will be "quiet", people, Russian people will just disappear .... Look in the internet for Yarosh's statements and see who's in the new the government entered the power structures, the conclusions are disappointing ...
              P.S. God give you that everything would be good and you live in your city and are not afraid ......
              1. zzz
                zzz 5 March 2014 09: 52
                +1
                Quote: ziqzaq

                P.S. God give you that everything would be good and you live in your city and are not afraid ......


                When they come for him, he will remember our peaceful website, but it will be too late ...
              2. Anper
                Anper 5 March 2014 11: 24
                +1
                Quote: ziqzaq
                only the sweeps will be "quiet"

                Do you know what the insidious feature of such changes is?
                I remember very well how we have at the memory in 95-96 gradually dealt with Russian schools - no one broke them, didn’t destroy them, they just put the children in such conditions that it was necessary to choose the Ukrainian language - Russian seemed unnecessary.
                Renamed the streets, erected monuments to the traitors. We were indignant, did nothing anyway. We got used to it.
                Then, under Yushchenko, new textbooks were published and are still learning from them. Parents simply had no time to look, they had to earn money to feed their family. And when they looked, they were horrified. They got used to it.
                And when it all exploded - they were scared. They did not comprehend, did not turn on the logic - they were scared.
                Now they’ll get used to the Right Sector too - it’s, it’s, officially in the Ministry of Internal Affairs in a special status. And they will be silent again.
                NEEDS A LEADER OF STATE LEVEL WITH STATE SUPPORT.
                Correctly, Putin said that this is all the repair of the facade. And that he does not see anyone on the role of leader. Lord, my God, make him lie and still play this game, there’s no one else to hope for this is not sad.
            2. Garrin
              Garrin 5 March 2014 09: 53
              +5
              Quote: makarov
              let me be, I am a Nazi muzzle, oh, let me be what they say about me further, BUT in our city, we can somehow manage it ourselves, and we don't need "guests". There is a militia, there is a militia, there are vigilantes. We can cope with the threats ourselves.
              The fact is that your desires do not always coincide with your capabilities. Here you write that you do not need "guests" and you can handle it yourself, but the facts speak about something else. Odessa, practically captured by Yaroshevsk militants, Kernes surrenders Kharkov, Dnepropetrovsk, Nikolaev almost merge. Donetsk still rests, but it is not a fact that Akhmetov will not pull up his "army", which will quickly deal with unarmed miners. Are you satisfied with the current situation? Personally, no. Well, I don’t want the Belgorod region to border on the region controlled by the armed bandits of the "Right Sector".
            3. Was mammoth
              Was mammoth 5 March 2014 10: 04
              +1
              Quote: makarov
              Now I entered the "change" option, because the posted comment instead of the word "I will be katts.apo.m." gives out a Nazi muzzle.

              Dial H.O.H.O.L. Marvel at the result.
              1. makarov
                makarov 5 March 2014 12: 50
                -1
                Yes, I’ll take it and try, at first just a word and immediately through the dots. so h.o.h.o.l
            4. Anper
              Anper 5 March 2014 10: 48
              +2
              Quote: makarov
              There are police, there is a militia, there are combatants

              We also have a lot of things in Rivne - only the AK turned out to be the most powerful argument for the new government. And for the police too. Especially in the video where the deputy prosecutor is dragged by a tie. Who is standing in the background?
        2. zzz
          zzz 5 March 2014 09: 22
          +1
          They told you they will.
        3. Field
          Field 5 March 2014 09: 37
          +4
          Office work, training in schools, kindergartens, signs of state institutions, etc. in Russian? How much time do they study Russian language and literature at school? Who writes the story to you?
          1. zzz
            zzz 5 March 2014 09: 50
            +1
            Quote: Field
            Office work, training in schools, kindergartens, signs of state institutions, etc. in Russian? How much time do they study Russian language and literature at school? Who writes the story to you?


            You won’t believe it was ridiculous, I had a sister there in Donetsk, so they had time - they began to write recipes in Ukrainian until the people were outraged !!!!!!!!
        4. sawmill
          sawmill 5 March 2014 09: 44
          +5
          How many were Russian schools in 1991?
          How many now?

          Ukraine slowly drifted all this time in the direction of de-Russification. These figures even came up with a special term de-Russification.

          And you are mistaken that you can protect yourself from Bandera yourself. All eastern and southern cities will strangle one by one, and the Crimea would be strangled if not for the self-defense detachments.
          1. Stanislas
            Stanislas 5 March 2014 11: 42
            +1
            Quote: sawmill
            And you are mistaken that you can protect yourself from Bandera yourself.
            They are not mistaken, but by helping banderlogs, they deliberately mislead us. Those in Ukraine who really want to protect themselves from Bandera and their Western puppeteers are calling for help from Russia.
          2. makarov
            makarov 6 March 2014 06: 38
            -1
            Counterquestion. And how many Ukrainian schools are there in the Russian Federation?
            Do not make a language problem. In my city I don’t feel it.
        5. varov14
          varov14 5 March 2014 12: 52
          -1
          And I have long been talking about the same thing, why keep a woman on a cart, well, she wants a free life, even in a ditch. It may be sweeter to give from there, though for some reason he thinks that they will pay more.
    3. Same lech
      Same lech 5 March 2014 08: 58
      +7
      If the desire of Ukrainians to be, and live free people,


      Aha BILYKH showed how free you are — any thug wrapping a tie around your neck will show you freedom — MOM DO NOT BURN.

      And why the temporary workers in power speak on behalf of all Ukrainians - they seized power by force - PATHOLOGICAL LIARS am
      1. makarov
        makarov 5 March 2014 09: 15
        -1
        Few in Ukraine approve of his actions. Everything goes to bring him to trial. And why don't you ask where the prosecutor got a car for $ 70 with a salary of 000-500 dollars? And with work experience of 700 years. And ordinary people ask similar questions, checked already, did not take loans, and did not buy a car on credit, hence the question, where did the money come from ???
        1. svp67
          svp67 5 March 2014 09: 24
          +6
          Quote: makarov
          And with work experience of 5 years. And ordinary people ask similar questions, checked already, did not take loans, and did not buy a car on credit, hence the question, where did the money come from ???

          Well then, let the people ask questions to the end. FROM WHERE MONEY
          The main surprise is the appointment of the richest people of the country, Igor Kolomoisky and Sergey Taruta, as governors of the eastern regions. There is a persistent rumor that another billionaire will join this company - deputy Vadim Novinsky, to whom Crimea is prophesied. This is a temporary, anti-crisis measure, political analyst Kost Bondarenko is sure.

          The merit is not great - to change "an awl for soap", the trouble is otherwise, that this happens through blood ...
          1. varov14
            varov14 5 March 2014 13: 00
            0
            Well, he didn’t like his thief, he takes envy, why not me, but a stranger, and a Jew, one of the best, is a sin to envy. They called in an old fashioned way a stranger to the board - they honor the story.
          2. varov14
            varov14 5 March 2014 13: 05
            0
            Well, he laughed, it turns out that the best Jew filed an international search for Yarosh - Vesti24. Payment for the path to power, fools, and you need to learn this.
        2. Field
          Field 5 March 2014 09: 39
          +2
          And where did the money come from for the revolution? And not small, moreover? And besides with return?
          1. svp67
            svp67 5 March 2014 12: 28
            +1
            Quote: Field
            And where did the money come from for the revolution? And not small, moreover? And besides with return?

        3. zzz
          zzz 5 March 2014 10: 49
          0
          Quote: makarov
          Few in Ukraine approve of his actions. Everything goes to bring him to trial. And why don't you ask where the prosecutor got a car for $ 70 with a salary of 000-500 dollars? And with work experience of 700 years. And ordinary people ask similar questions, checked already, did not take loans, and did not buy a car on credit, hence the question, where did the money come from ???


          Yes, we all want to tear your Yanukovych to pieces! Or do you think that we are for him? We are for Ukraine to remain as a nation!
        4. Anper
          Anper 5 March 2014 10: 59
          +1
          Quote: makarov
          where does the prosecutor get a car for 70 dollars with a salary of 000-500 dollars


          It is advisable to take an interest in the well-being of Turchinov, Yatsenyuk, Yarosh, Tyagnibok, Avakov, Bulatov. They, logically, in the conditions of a complete crisis, should now swell with hunger. And then there was a message that during the new reign some funds were stolen there. And only a few key figures of the state had the right to access these funds. The fish rots from the head.
        5. Anper
          Anper 5 March 2014 11: 35
          0
          Quote: makarov
          . Everything goes to bring him to justice

          Pavel, honestly, do you really think that he will be attracted? And they will punish?
        6. Same lech
          Same lech 5 March 2014 16: 29
          0
          WELL DECLINE BY THE LAWY-of course, you can of course like a sash- the fingers of the prosecutor to pinch in the doorjamb, after 5 minutes of torture everything will say.
    4. Kazakh
      Kazakh 5 March 2014 09: 01
      +6
      Quote: makarov
      which led to the tragic consequences of the earlier fraternal peoples.
      And when Sashka White shot Russian boys in Chechnya when your loafers shot down our planes in Georgia, you were silent about the fraternal people. I didn’t see a couple of demonstrations against the female home-goers in the Caucasus, and now you remembered about the brotherhood. And we’ll go a little deeper and remember that the great-grandmother was a Russian grandmother. So you are not my brother. and if the gut is not thin take the screw and defend Ukraine and I went to Little Russia
    5. svp67
      svp67 5 March 2014 09: 05
      +3
      Quote: makarov
      If the desire of Ukrainians to be and live as free people, the author calls "The current situation in Ukraine is a new challenge for Russia",

      This is from the region - "I look in the book, but I see ..." The threat to Russia is not in the desire of the people of Ukraine to live freely, but in the desire of a certain part of the population of Ukraine to approve the NAZI rules of life, under which a part, and not a small one, of the population of Ukraine becomes second-class people , or even generally deprived of the right to live on their land ...
    6. from punk
      from punk 5 March 2014 09: 18
      +4
      a free government does not make the country cancer for the sake of a billion dollars
    7. from punk
      from punk 5 March 2014 09: 20
      0
      we are not slaves give money we will do anything
    8. skifd
      skifd 5 March 2014 09: 30
      +2
      Quote: makarov
      If the desire of Ukrainians to be and live as free people, the author calls "The current situation in Ukraine is a new challenge for Russia", then it becomes clear the impact on the GDP of a host of such authors, which led to the tragic consequences of the early fraternal peoples.


      Freedom for you - to lie under NATO and Yusovites ?? To have the power of those Bandera who staged a Sabbath on the Maidan? Have laws that discriminate against half of the country's population? A government in which someone can afford to make claims on the territory of a neighboring, "brotherly" country (Yarosh)? Yes ?? And at the same time, reserve the right to cheap gas, preferences in trade relations, a visa-free regime with both the EU and Russia. And if anything, shout, "Oh, this imperial Russia ... we are under pressure ... they are to blame for everything ... But if it weren't for THEY !!!"

      Quote: makarov
      which led to tragic consequences Early fraternal peoples


      Who was the FIRST who said "EARLIER" ?????? !!!! am
      I still DO NOT TALK THAT !!!
      And here I want to say YOU:
      "Don't you brother me ..."
    9. afdjhbn67
      afdjhbn67 5 March 2014 09: 39
      0
      Yes, consider us somn and we are the people who chose their president for whom pride takes! your then my friend somehow quickly ran to us and you chose him
    10. Field
      Field 5 March 2014 09: 46
      0
      Quote: makarov
      If the desire of Ukrainians to be, and live free people, the author is called


      Again "free" from whom and what?
      And what is "free" in your understanding?
    11. Altona
      Altona 5 March 2014 10: 20
      +1
      Quote: makarov
      If the desire of Ukrainians to be and live as free people, the author calls "The current situation in Ukraine is a new challenge for Russia",

      -----------------------
      What is holding you back now? From what or from whom do you want to be free? They were freed ... Maidan Foreva ... Where are you even freer? Do you think they are waiting for you there? There, even Poles lick toilets and buy old stuff, Poles are faithful dogs of the West ... And you all live with some kind of illusion ... Like North Korea, only your Juche is called "nezalezhnosti" ...
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    13. Stanislas
      Stanislas 5 March 2014 10: 35
      +3
      Quote: makarov
      Ukrainians desire to be, and live free people
      If the desire to humiliately beg in the West and beg offensively in the East, blackmail and betray those who treat you like brothers, currying favor for cookies in front of those who see you as subhuman (untermensch), is called "living free people", then it becomes clear the influence of a devil and a legion of imps of a lower rank on you. If that was your brother, would you immediately disown him, or would you try to help him? Demons need to be cast out, so Putin is acting as an exorcist, and we will help him as much as we can. So early you started using the epithet "brotherly" in the past tense, we don't give up ours.
    14. Yuri Sev Caucasus
      Yuri Sev Caucasus 5 March 2014 11: 50
      +1
      Especially for you
      A person who proclaims himself the Prime Minister of Ukraine, proclaims himself an adherent of the Greek Catholic (Uniate) Church. However, in fact, Arseniy Yatsenyuk, who received the nickname Yaytsenyukh among opponents and even associates, is actually an inveterate Scientologist.
      The Church of Scientology is one of the most dangerous totalitarian sects and sets extremely ambitious goals. Founded in 1954 by American science fiction writer Ronald Lafayette Hubbard, it differs significantly from other destructive cults. Although the true goal of all totalitarian sects is to maximize profit and gain unlimited power over people, the paths to this are different. If for most pseudo-religions the main thing is to increase the number of sects, then Scientologists initially relied not on quantity, but on quality. Scientologists position themselves as an elite church - political, financial, intellectual.
      In most countries, Scientology’s activities are prohibited by law and severely suppressed as dangerous to the national security of the state and the psyche of people, and in 1978 a Paris court even sentenced Hubbard to four years of hard labor and a heavy fine in absentia.
      Scientologists are also banned in Russia: on December 15, 1996, the Russian State Duma passed a decree in which the Church of Scientology was classified as a destructive religious organization.
      However, in the United States, Scientologists enjoy complete freedom and even tacit support from the authorities. Back in 1959, the CIA Director Alain Dulles entered into an agreement with Hubbard, according to which the CIA provided the Church of Scientology with cover and protection, and in exchange received assistance in conducting special operations abroad and in obtaining intelligence information through sect structures.
      It is in the United States, in the California city of Santa Barbara, that one of the functionaries of the Church of Scientology is the sister of Yatsenyuk Alina Petrovna Steele. Yatsenyuk himself graduated from a school of Scientology in Kiev. During the training at this school, the main idea of ​​Scientologists was hammered into the cadets: "Be impudent, get rich and send everyone to hell."
      During frequent trips to America, Yatsenyuk invariably meets in an informal setting with Mr. David Miscavige, a member of the leadership of the Church of Scientology.
      1. CALL.
        CALL. 5 March 2014 16: 14
        +1
        Quote: Yuri Sev Caucasus
        Scientologists position themselves as an elite church - political, financial, intellectual.

        By the way, Mr. Kiriyenko (Kinder Surprise) is also an adherent of the Church of Scientology.
        1. Stanislas
          Stanislas 5 March 2014 19: 57
          0
          Quote: Z.O.V.
          Kiriyenko (Kinder Surprise) is also an adherent of the Church of Scientology
          Alas! Who only lets him go to nuclear facilities?
  3. Gardamir
    Gardamir 5 March 2014 08: 43
    +1
    It is necessary to create an ideological committee under the president. This committee will carry out information security.
    1. KOH
      KOH 5 March 2014 09: 06
      +2
      And the federal channels must be three-numbered, cognitive programs on history or just dancing and singing ...
      1. Rebus
        Rebus 5 March 2014 10: 15
        0
        Quote: Gardamir
        It is necessary to create an ideological committee under the president. This committee will carry out information security.

        Are you proposing to introduce censorship? Then, one of the first, the site "Military Review" will be closed ...
        Quote: CON
        And the federal channels must be three-numbered, cognitive programs on history or just dancing and singing ...

        Well, you shouldn't have, there are not only historical programs on federal channels, for example, on the Kultura and Zvezda channels, but also several historical channels, for example, History [http://istoriya.tv/index] and 365 [http://www.365days.ru/]. Moreover, the channel "History" is more than central - it creates and broadcasts the VGTRK.
        1. afdjhbn67
          afdjhbn67 5 March 2014 11: 25
          0
          The star has recently become an uninteresting set of dumb series covered with supposedly patriotism, the little real life of the army of history analytics is shorter
      2. afdjhbn67
        afdjhbn67 5 March 2014 11: 22
        +1
        moreover, one and the same solid deja vu
  4. Mikhail m
    Mikhail m 5 March 2014 08: 43
    +5
    A good word and a revolver convince much better than one good word.
    What we see now in Ukraine.
  5. zzz
    zzz 5 March 2014 08: 43
    +2
    The rebellion of the Southeast began to crush. Odessa, Kharkov, Donetsk


    In the next topic is written. Well, how to fight in this case? Can a word defeat the oligarchs?
    1. Garrin
      Garrin 5 March 2014 10: 01
      +1
      Quote: zzz
      Donetsk

      Donetsk still rests. I have a sister and a tribe, almost every day there in pickets. The tribe of what was apolitical, now, every day, after graduation, he pickets.
    2. afdjhbn67
      afdjhbn67 5 March 2014 11: 27
      0
      word and deed! but in the beginning there was a word, but things won’t get up to business (I apologize)
  6. domokl
    domokl 5 March 2014 08: 44
    +1
    I thought for a long time what to put ... I put it all the same plus. Thoughts are correct, but not new at all ... They have been talking about this for already ..... twenty years. We are losing the information war. But as always, only at the first stage ... today the rhetoric of the West has already changed quite a lot .. And then there will be more
  7. Hs487
    Hs487 5 March 2014 08: 44
    0
    An application for a role in the world that Russia has made throwing a glove in the face of the West - This is primarily an application for ourselves.
    Perhaps the only thing I disagree with. We are not all starting the mess.
  8. saag
    saag 5 March 2014 08: 50
    0
    All these phrases "a state with meaning", "civilization project" are the desire to come up with a beautiful wrapper so as not to hurt the sensitive soul of partners in the west, in reality it is the ideology and goal of communism, because they could not come up with anything better :-)
  9. calocha
    calocha 5 March 2014 08: 58
    +5
    Ukraine will begin to live when it is cleared of lice (Bendera) and bedbugs (oligarchs). A team with a good social program is needed, something similar to the Belarusian ....
  10. vasiliy2310
    vasiliy2310 5 March 2014 09: 09
    +1
    Yesterday, I was in contact with a person who did not consider himself to be Maidan, but he was so hysterical from the presence of our military in Crimea that I could not bear it and swore him. Their brains are so eaten up by their media that I don’t even know how to convince them (
    1. makarov
      makarov 5 March 2014 09: 20
      0
      Now the media in Ukraine have little trust, mostly people draw info directly online from the network. My relatives from the Moscow Region also called me, offered asylum if we decided to become refugees, for a long time I had to explain to her that everything was in order with us and no pogroms or anything else was happening. The poor fellow burst into tears.
      1. Field
        Field 5 March 2014 09: 41
        0
        Southeast big where exactly?
      2. svp67
        svp67 5 March 2014 12: 37
        0
        Quote: makarov
        offered refuge if we decide to become refugees, for a long time she had to explain that everything was in order with us and that there were no pogroms or something else was happening.

        But you still remember that in cases where you and your family will not be abandoned by your relatives from Russia ...
        Quote: makarov
        The poor fellow burst into tears.
        She is from the happiness that you have quiet and calm ... and from long experiences. Are there many like her in the West?
  11. Gagarin
    Gagarin 5 March 2014 09: 27
    +5
    Wait a brother, it’s not yet evening, tyagniboki-Yaroshi do not hide their ideas, a matter of time.
    Quote: makarov
    I live in the southeast, and I ask you to believe, WE DO NOT HAVE LANGUAGE INJURIES!
  12. Neophyte
    Neophyte 5 March 2014 09: 33
    +2
    The author is right - we are losing the information war. If you look through the info
    our media, it becomes clear that many of them are paid by the West.
    So, for example, patriotic comments are blocked with the answer, like we
    let's decide, this is the right of the owner of the site. But, a host of swamp kikimor blooms
    there is a magnificent bouquet. Time goes by, brainwashing of the younger generation
    It’s in full swing. Why is it so difficult to have a dialogue with friends and even
    relatives in Ukraine? Yes, yes, the Ukrainian media carefully drove them into
    the head that having thrown off Yanukovych-Mazepa, Ukraine will heal happily and richly.
    Conclusion: we all together start a List of mass media - traitors of Russia, block them in the information space. Friends! Website VO, one of the best, let's unite and begin the fight against the enemies of Russia!
  13. Yuri Sev Caucasus
    Yuri Sev Caucasus 5 March 2014 09: 38
    +1
    It’s sad how it turns out, if you want to help, don’t climb, but help! -I can’t be too late.
  14. olviko
    olviko 5 March 2014 09: 48
    +2
    "Non-resistance to evil by violence" is a very beautiful theory. But, unfortunately, its effectiveness is not confirmed by life if you are dealing with aggressive people without honor and conscience. "
    1. afdjhbn67
      afdjhbn67 5 March 2014 11: 31
      0
      The trouble and end of Ukraine is that they will never have a national leader who will unite the east-west state without a leader during the transition period.
      1. AlNikolaich
        AlNikolaich 5 March 2014 14: 27
        0
        Quote: afdjhbn67
        The trouble and end of Ukraine is that they will never have a national leader who will unite the east-west state without a leader during the transition period.

        Ukraine is hardly a national leader. Too different views on him from the east and west. To consolidate the people of Ukraine, we need an idea! A unifying idea. But there isn’t one yet ... request
  15. Stinger
    Stinger 5 March 2014 09: 50
    +2
    In my opinion, the main "lesson of Ukraine" is the fact that once again the old truth has been confirmed - we will never understand each other with the West. Therefore, further relationships should be of a purely pragmatic nature. No flirting. For 20 years "partnership" received only promises and reproaches. There will be no real technological help. It is high time to rely on our own forces, sending liberals further to the West and without money.
  16. dmb
    dmb 5 March 2014 10: 04
    0
    the next article by Koli-balabol reminded of the immortal book: "The union of the sword and the plowshare, the complete secret of contributions, pah you organization" "You can give money for children."
  17. siberalt
    siberalt 5 March 2014 10: 56
    +1
    The author correctly writes that if the people do not have a project for the future, namely their own ideology, then it’s not the state at all, but someone’s appendage. Is that why liberals have enshrined in our Constitution a ban on their own state ideology? There is no ideology - there is no sovereignty. There will be no sovereignty, only corrupt media - the conductors of liberoid ideology. And that means there are no clear prospects for the future of the country. We observe the total zombie of the people with an alien ideology in Ukraine. Things are no better in Russia. Therefore, the lessons of Ukraine for us should serve as an alarm to save our country.
  18. chunga-changa
    chunga-changa 5 March 2014 11: 26
    0
    Ukraine is a failure of Lavrov's department. There is nothing and no one, nothing is ready, everything is unexpected. Although Ukraine is close at hand, speaks the same language and half of the country is pro-Russian. How in such a situation to bring the matter to the introduction of troops is beyond the mind. Now about the main thing. It is clear that it is very easy to be seduced by the independent Crimea, which itself falls into the arms. And it seemed to start right, the troops worked quickly and clearly, but then political games and swarming began again, and the army, like on the Maidan, froze in front of a practically demoralized enemy, one step away from victory, "waiting for the order." It’s a no-brainer that if the army is already being used, then the matter must be carried through to the end, they will still be asked to the fullest. Political steps are taken after the victory and unconditional defeat of the enemy, when the necessary politicians are brought to power in the localities and they have power and media support and advisers from competent comrades, as was done after the war in Europe. There is none of this. Ukrainian troops in Crimea either support the Crimea or Kiev, the defense is not established, the army with heavy weapons and the navy are not being formed, the apparatus of the Kiev henchmen has not been cleaned, incomprehensible "journalists" climb across the Crimea, reveal forces and means, no one stops them. Mess and anarchy. In general, it would be better for Russia now to refrain from active actions. It's one thing in the fall, when everyone would have understood and felt everything with their ass, even the stupidest ones, and then Russia on a white horse frees us. And it is completely different when everyone is cool and fun, they have not yet moved away from the revolutionary intoxication, and here Russia on a white horse is occupying. In politics, one should be cynical and cruel if the interests of the country demand it. How many will we already fall under the distribution for the sake of "brothers-Slavs" who do not consider us as brothers the most ridiculous.
  19. Duelist
    Duelist 5 March 2014 11: 38
    0
    Quote: Gagarin
    Wait a brother, it’s not yet evening, tyagniboki-Yaroshi do not hide their ideas, a matter of time.

    Alas! When the Ukrainians wake up, they will already have a pro-fascist noose on their neck, but it will already become a legitimate authority. Ukrainians will become outcasts in their country and will rush as refugees from it. And they will accuse Putin of inaction, but he extended a helping hand to you, and you turn to him ...! No Russian tanks will go to Ukraine, we will not fight with our brothers! Such an action would destroy Russia!
    Not learned history lessons are paid for in blood and freedom!
  20. vovan50
    vovan50 5 March 2014 14: 20
    0
    Modern media and the Internet, especially when thermonuclear war is impossible, this is really the second Strategic Forces! This must be understood by us, ordinary posters, and the country's leadership. We will lose the information war, we will lose everything, absolutely everything! And if these are troops, albeit very specific, then they must have everything without which the troops cannot win. This is planning, and interaction and discipline, in a word, everything without which there will be no victory. And the main thing should be a goal and an understanding of how to achieve it. I understand that under the conditions of "freedom of speech" the one who has the most money is right, and the United States has the most money (they print as much as they want). Here they are, with the help of the "free" press, are waging a fierce struggle for our minds, for the minds of our "elite", and most importantly for the minds of our children. Only our state media can resist this massive attack, and we are with you as far as possible. I don't know how to organize ourselves, how to work out common goals and how to get the state to take it seriously, but this must be done as quickly as possible.